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James: Okay, so
we're ready to start,
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we've done an introduction
and we've done two overviews,
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so, we've moved
through the book of Daniel...
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we've given a pretty good
picture of what it looks like
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a lot of themes
that are in here...
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a lot of great
insights concerning preparation
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and how the book of
Daniel connects with Revelation,
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and moves us
through end-time events
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and also an
emphasis on the gospel
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and covenant
relationship with God
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and how He fulfills His
new Covenant with His power
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in our lives
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and how these earthly
powers try to come against that
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and dethrone God
and upset His covenant.
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They have anger and
indignation against the covenant
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but ultimately,
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the Prince of the
Covenant is broken for us...
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that's Calvary...
Daniel 11 verse 22
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and that's the
center of the book.
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The center of
the book is Jesus...
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the center of
the book is Calvary.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: So, we're going
to go back now to chapter 1
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and we're just going to
begin again right from here...
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we're just going to go
through it verse by verse...
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we'll start with a
little bit of history,
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we'll talk
about, What led to this?
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What were the
things that were in place
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that caused God to
hand His people over
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to Babylonian captivity
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and allow that all to take place
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and was it a good thing
or was it not a good thing.
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So, Jason, would you have
a word for us as we step in?
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Jason: Sure...
"Dear heavenly Father,
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we thank you so much for the
opportunity to study Your Word.
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We just ask that as we
study the book of Daniel
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that you would help us to
see Christ on the pages, Father.
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Please lead and
guide our conversation,
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in Jesus' name we pray, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: All right,
so, Daniel chapter 1,
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Yvonne, let's read
verses 1 and 2 again, can we?
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Yvonne: Sure, "In the
third year of the reign
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of Jehoiakim king of Judah,
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Nebuchadnezzar king of
Babylon came to Jerusalem
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and besieged it.
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And the Lord gave Jehoiakim
king of Judah into his hand,
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with some of the
articles of the house of God,
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which he carried
into the land of Shinar
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to the house of his god;
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and he brought the articles into
the treasure house of his god. "
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James: All right, so we've
talked about this a little bit,
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but we want to go back now
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and look at a
little bit of the history.
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So, here we have Nebuchadnezzar,
a heathen king... heathen power,
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Babylon... coming in and
surrounding God's people.
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Now, again and again and
again in the Old Testament
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when God's people are
surrounded... they're delivered.
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Surrounded... delivered...
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2nd Corinthians
chapter 20 I believe it is,
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you have the Moabites and
the Amorites... all of the...
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surrounding God's
people... they pray...
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they flip their
souls... they're delivered.
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Why doesn't it happen this time?
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Yvonne: Chronicles or...?
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James: 2nd Chronicles
chapter 20 Chronicles... yeah...
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it talks about... that
was just one example...
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Hezekiah... there
are a number of examples
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where God delivers...
God delivers... God delivers
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and all of a sudden,
now God isn't delivering.
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Why isn't he delivering?
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What's going on
here? What's the history?
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What's the
history of behind this?
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There are three
books we want to look at.
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One of them is
Isaiah and also Jeremiah
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and then, Ezekiel
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and we would refer to Isaiah
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as foretelling the destruction
of Jerusalem without seeing it.
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So, he was a few years before
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the destruction
actually took place
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and then you have
Jeremiah and Ezekiel
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who are writing
about it as it's happening.
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Jeremiah is taking a posture
toward the leaders in Judah
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and through God's inspiration
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telling them
what you need to do,
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"This is what you should do,
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this is what God
wants you to do. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And they treat him as
though he is speaking treason.
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They believe that God's going
to deliver them no matter what.
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They don't take an
account of their sin,
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they don't take account of how
they've turned away from God,
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they expect God
to step in for them
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even though they're not
following Him... obeying Him...
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and believing His prophets.
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Jason: So, like a
sense of entitlement...
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James: They have a
sense of entitlement...
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they have a sense of entitlement
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and Jeremiah says, "It's
not going to work that way. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And the reason
it's not going to work that way
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is because when God
covenanted with His people,
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the whole point of
that covenant agreement
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was that God was
going to work through them
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to bring His name...
His glory... to the nations
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so that everyone could
see that you know what?
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the true Creator
of heaven and earth
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doesn't want you sacrificing
your children in the fire...
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doesn't want you committing
all of the abominations
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that sin has
brought to your lives...
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the true King and
Creator of heaven and earth
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wants you to live
a life that's filled
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with the fruit of the
Spirit... joy, peace, love...
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these are the
things that God wanted to..
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to pour out upon the Gentiles
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and He's going to do
it through His people
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but His people got lackadaisy.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: They just started
being content... sitting back...
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doing nothing for
the heathen nations...
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thinking about themselves...
becoming self-satisfied...
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they were better
than other nations...
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and bit by bit, the people
of the world were neglected.
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Yvonne: And they also began to
follow other gods didn't they?
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I mean, worshipping the heavens
and the... you know, all of that
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and they... and
they began to take on
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the characteristics of
the cultures around them
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to the point where they...
they were committing idolatry.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Jason: It's interesting how
you see that coming into play
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in today's society.
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Yvonne: Exactly.
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Jason: How people within
churches... they're taking on...
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they're going with the culture.
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Yvonne: Right.
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Jason: Whether it goes against
God's principles or not...
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you know, they go with that.
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James: And that's
been an age-long thing
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because some of the prophecies
we're talking about here...
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in here... for
worship for example
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you know, the worship that
God has outlined in His Word...
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in the Law... is definitely
different than the culture.
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The culture says, "No,
this is how you worship God... "
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and the Word of God says,
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"No, this is actually
how you worship God. "
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So, this is an age-long thing
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that we're still
experiencing to this day.
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Yvonne: Right... right.
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James: So, do you want to
look at a couple of verses in...
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in Jeremiah... Isaiah?
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Ivor: Let's go
to those verses now.
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James: Okay, so we've
got, we've got, for example,
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the first one I'd
like us to look at
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that we talked
about it a little bit
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off Set is Isaiah 37 verse 7.
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Now, you can imagine...
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and I'm going to have
Jason read this for us
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because this is his verse,
almost... Isaiah 37 verse 7.
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Jason: Oh boy!
I've got to read this.
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James: It's your present verse,
it's not your future verse.
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Jason: Okay.
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James: You can
imagine Daniel and...
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Did I say 37:7 or 39:7?
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Yvonne: You said, 37:7...
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James: It's 39 verse 7.
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You can imagine
Daniel and his friends...
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now, we know that
Daniel was just a young kid
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when he went into
captivity in Babylon
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so, his parents are
probably raising him
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around the worship table...
they were raising him on...
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of course, the Old Testament
but the book of Isaiah.
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Isaiah is talking again...
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it's doing the same
thing we're doing in Daniel,
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it's talking about the
Prince of the Covenant...
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it's talking about Jesus
and it's talking about prophecy,
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Jesus and prophecy...
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Jesus and prophecy,
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so, you got
Isaiah 53 for example,
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it talks about how He was
wounded for our transgressions
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and bruised for
our iniquities and...
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and then, you've got Isaiah 39
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which talks about
what's going to happen to us
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in the context of
prophecy and the future.
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So, let's look at verse...
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Jason: All right,
"And they shall take away
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some of your sons... "
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James: Hey, wait a minute,
I'm sorry to interrupt you...
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can you start with verse 6?
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That will give us
some context there.
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Jason: Sure,
"Behold, the days are coming
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when all that is in your house,
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and what your
fathers have accumulated
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until this day, shall
be carried to Babylon;
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'nothing shall be
left,' says the Lord.
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And they shall take
away some of your sons
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who will descend from
you, whom you will beget;
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and they shall be
eunuchs in the palace
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of the king of Babylon. "
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Yvonne: My!
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James: Okay, so, what's
interesting about this is,
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when you go back
to Daniel chapter 1
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and you read verse 3,
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"And the king
spake unto Ashpenaz
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the master of the eunuchs,
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that he should bring
certain children of Israel,
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and of the king's
seed and of the princes;
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children in whom
there was no blemish,
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well favored, and
skillful in wisdom,
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and cunning in knowledge,
and understanding science... "
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et cetera...
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so, Hezekiah was told,
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"Your sons that
shall come from you... "
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and Jeremiah told Ashpenaz,
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"I want you to bring
some of the king's seed. "
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Ivor: Nebuchadnezzar...
James: Excuse me...
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Nebuchadnezzar told
Ashpenaz, what did I say?
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Ivor: I think you
said, "Jeremiah... "
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James:
Nebuchadnezzar tells Ashpenaz,
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"I want you to bring some of the
king's seed... the princes...
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and they're
going to be eunuchs. "
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So, it's interesting...
and I'm just going to say this
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because we talked about it
earlier how God inspires Isaiah
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with this prophecy...
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God inspires Nebuchadnezzar
to fulfill the prophecy.
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James: I mean, we have a
hard time as "Christians"
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maybe as Adventists...
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thinking that God can
speak through anyone but us.
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All: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: That's true.
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James: If God can
speak through a donkey,
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God can speak
through rocks if He has to,
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God can speak through...
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and He will choose
whom He will choose.
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And in this point in time...
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at this point in history,
God would rather have...
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God would rather
use someone who's cold
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than someone who's lukewarm.
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Ivor: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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So, He's using Nebuchadnezzar...
not His people.
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Nebuchadnezzar is in a place
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where he's able to
fulfill God's will...
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and we weren't...
God's people weren't.
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All: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: This is... this is
hard though isn't it, Jason?
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I'm thinking about
this in relation to you
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because I'm thinking,
"Wow, you're... you're...
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you're not a eunuch, of course,
but you're single, right?
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Jason: No, I've got
a... I've got a girlfriend.
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James: You've got a girlfriend
but you're not married.
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Jason: Not married, yeah.
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James: So, you think about
Daniel... his situation here...
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he's going to be
single permanently...
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permanently.
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Yvonne: He had no
choice of his own.
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Jason: Yeah. James:
No choice of his own.
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Jesus talks about
this in the New Testament.
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I think it is in Matthew 19.
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He said, "Some men
are eunuchs by birth
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and some men make
themselves eunuchs for God's...
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kingdom of God's sake
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or others are made
eunuchs by other men
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and that's what
happens with Daniel.
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Jason: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And you
wonder, how did he...
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how was he able not
to get bitter over this?
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And I think... and
I'm just going to say this,
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I don't know... I
don't read the verses
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but I think there probably
were a lot of God's people
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who did get bitter
over this whole process.
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Jason: Oh, yeah.
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: But Daniel doesn't and...
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how do we get ready for that?
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Jason: Yeah, that would take a
lot of prayer, I mean, I don't..
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I don't know how he didn't
get bitter from that standpoint,
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like, just... from me
speaking... being real,
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like, I think I would be
very bitter in that situation.
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James: Hmmm... so... and
I love that real talk, Jason
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so, let's think about this now
because we're talking about...
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in a sense... end-time prophecy
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and what's going to
happen in the end of time
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and some people are
really afraid, you know,
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"Man, I don't know if I'm going
to get through the end of time,
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like, that's going to
be tough, like, you know,
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I'm going to probably capitulate
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and how am I going
to be able to stand...
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and overcome temptation?"
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And I tell young
people especially
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because we do a lot of
ministry with young people
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we deal with a couple of schools
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and we have a lot of
young people we talk to,
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and I tell them, I say,
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"You know, when
the crisis comes,
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and you can't buy or sell,
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there's not going
to be a lot of stuff
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that's going to matter
anymore at that time. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... that's true.
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James: "I mean, you're not
going to have your cell phone...
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you're not going
to have your car...
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you're not going get gas,
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you're not going to
be doing a lot of stuff
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because you just can't
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and not only that but
you're going to realize
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in that moment of time...
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you're going to realize
that Jesus is coming very soon,
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like, prophecy is at an end...
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like, we're almost
ready for probation to close,
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and so, all these plans
that we've been having for life,
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well, they kind of...
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they diminish in
the context of the fact
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that the imminent return...
Christ's return is imminent...
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there it is, right
there, it's coming. "
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Now, I don't... we don't
think that way right now,
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because we have the prophecies
and by faith we believe that
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but we've not like,
seeing them actually fulfill,
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like, "Right now,
here we go, it's over... "
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You know what I'm
saying? All: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: So, we live as though
Christ were coming tomorrow
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and we plan as though He
weren't coming for a 100 years,
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got a girlfriend...
going to get married...
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going to have a family, right?
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: But, when this process
comes to be put in place,
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all of our plans
are going to change...
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and God is going to give us
a completely different spirit
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and that's why it says here
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and I... and I'm... we
haven't gotten there yet
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but that's why I
believe it says here
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that there was an
excellent spirit in Daniel.
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It wasn't his spirit,
it was the Spirit of God.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And it changed
everything for Daniel.
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I think it's going to
change everything for us.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Um... I would add here,
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we were talking about
this actually before we came on
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but... in Isaiah 65...
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or Isaiah 66...
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in fact, why don't we go
there really quickly if we can
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Isaiah 66...
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because Jason, this
kind of goes to your...
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you know, your
question, just that whole idea
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of how he was able to...
and kind of jumps a little bit
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ahead into the
story of Daniel chapter 1
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but if you look at
verse 15... remember Isaiah...
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he's prophesying not
only about end-time events,
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he's also prophesying
in a more immediate context
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what's going to
happen to Jerusalem
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and it says
here in Isaiah 66:15,
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"For behold, the LORD will come,
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His chariots like a whirlwind
to render His anger with fury
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and His rebuke
with flames of fire.
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For by fire and by His sword
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will the LORD
plead with all flesh:
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and the slain of the
LORD shall be many. "
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And now, look at verse 17,
"They that sanctify themselves
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and purify
themselves in the garden,
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behind one tree in the
midst, eating swine's flesh
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and the
abomination and the mouse,
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shall be consumed
together, saith the LORD."
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All: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Now, Daniel chapter one...
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Daniel, Shadrach,
Meshach and Abednego
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are invited to
eat the king's meat.
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All: Hmmm... hmmm...
Ivor: Swine's flesh...
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Ivor: And all the stuff...
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Yvonne: Oh...
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Ivor: They don't
do it. Yvonne: Right.
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Ivor: But the
other Hebrews do it.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Without much of a problem.
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James: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Why?
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Well, I believe that
crisis doesn't reveal...
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or crisis doesn't produce
character... it reveals it.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... All: Hmmm...
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Ivor: The reason why those
Hebrews in Daniel 1 were so able
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like, "Oh, yeah...
king's meat... not a problem"
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king's wine...
not a problem... "
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is most likely because they
had been doing that already.
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Yvonne: Oh!
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Ivor: They had been
doing that all along.
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Daniel had been
preparing all along...
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Daniel had been
living that life all along
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so when the crisis
hit, character is revealed,
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right, here's... here's Daniel,
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they're like, "Whoa!
we don't do that... "
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James: Hmmm... Hmmm...
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Ivor: The others...
Ivor showing how they ate.
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Right, so this
lesson for us really...
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really speaks to the fact that
you can't prepare for crisis
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in the midst of a crisis.
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All: Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: You prepare for the
crisis before the crisis hits
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and I believe that's what
Daniel and the Hebrews did
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and his friends did.
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They were preparing for
the crisis... before it hit
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and that is going
to be key... you know,
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when we talk about end-time
events for God's people.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... that's good.
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James: Let's look at
some more verses on this,
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Yvonne, would you
read for us in Jeremiah 24,
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and I think it would be
really good for us to read
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all seven verses Jeremiah 24...
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not all seven verses
but the first seven verses.
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Yvonne: Sure... sure.
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"The Lord showed me, and
there were two baskets of figs
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set before the
temple of the Lord,
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after
Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon
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had carried away captive
Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim,
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king of Judah,
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and the princes of Judah
with the craftsmen and smiths,
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from Jerusalem, and had
brought them to Babylon.
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One basket had very good figs,
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like the figs
that are first ripe;
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and the other
basket had very bad figs
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which could not be
eaten, they were so bad.
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Then the Lord said to me,
"What do you see, Jeremiah?"
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And I said, 'Figs,
the good figs, very good;
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and the bad, very bad,
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which cannot be
eaten, they are so bad. '
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Again the word of the
Lord came to me saying,
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'Thus says the
Lord, the God of Israel:
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Like these good figs,
so will I acknowledge those
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who are carried
away captive from Judah,
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whom I have sent out of
this place for their own good,
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into the land of the Chaldeans.
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For I will set My
eyes on them for good,
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and I will bring
them back to this land;
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I will build them
and not pull them down,
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and I will plant them
and not pluck them up.
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Then I will give
them a heart to know Me,
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that I am the Lord; and
they shall be My people,
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and I will be their God,
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for they shall return to
Me with their whole heart. "
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James: So, this is the picture
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that Ivor is
painting for us right here.
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Yvonne: Yes...
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James: And this last verse...
this covenantal language...
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they're going to return to
me with their whole heart...
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I'm going to be their God,
they're going to be my people.
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That's the new-covenant language
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and God had that
experience with Nebuchadnezzar
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and He has that experience
with Daniel and his friends.
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God is looking for His people.
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Some of these people
are in His "church. "
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Okay, some of His people are
00:17:56.84\00:17:59.07
scattered throughout
all these different folds.
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Jesus says in John chapter
10, "I have many folds...
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many sheep in many folds
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and they're going
to hear My voice...
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I'm going to call them and
they're going to hear My voice
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and there will be one
fold and one shepherd. "
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That's what we
see in this prophecy
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moving through
Daniel through Revelation...
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that's what God's ultimate
goal is for all of His people
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and so, what
Ivor was saying here,
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I think is really powerful,
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there are good figs
and there are bad figs.
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There is wheat
and there are tares
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and there is gold and
silver and precious stones
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and there's wood and
there's hay and there's stubble
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and how do we know?
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We don't... only God knows
00:18:37.11\00:18:38.45
but what God does is,
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He allows trials
and tests to come to us
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to reveal what we are...
not to make us what we...
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well, I shouldn't say it
doesn't make us what we are
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because tests
actually do develop character
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but the ultimate test...
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the... the... the
ultimate hour of temptation
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is talked about in
Revelation's churches...
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is a test of revelation
more than it's a test of
00:18:56.77\00:18:59.43
our product and development.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... interesting.
00:19:01.87\00:19:04.07
Could I... can we look
at verse 2 for a second
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because I wanted to
bring out something.
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James: Verse 2 of Daniel?
00:19:09.48\00:19:10.81
Yvonne: Yes, um,
sorry, Daniel 1 verse 2,
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and... when it
said that Jehoiakim
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took some of the
articles of the house of God
00:19:16.58\00:19:18.92
into the house of his god
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and he brought the articles into
the treasure house of his god.
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So, you have this scene...
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James and Ivor: You
mean Nebuchadnezzar...
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James: Nebuchadnezzar
took some of the articles...
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Yvonne: "Then the
Lord gave Jehoiakim...
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with some of the articles... "
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James: Right, so, Nebuchadnezzar
comes to besiege Jerusalem,
00:19:35.77\00:19:40.01
and the Lord gives
Jehoiakim as captive to him.
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Yvonne: Oh, oh, oh, my bad,
sorry, thank you, thank you.
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Okay, so you have
this situation where...
00:19:44.48\00:19:47.88
where the articles are
brought into the temple
00:19:47.92\00:19:51.72
and... and nothing really...
00:19:51.75\00:19:55.36
you were saying earlier
before in our previous program
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that God humbled
Himself basically in this
00:19:58.69\00:20:01.83
but it's interesting,
I think it's 1st Samuel 5
00:20:01.86\00:20:04.47
or 2nd Samuel 5 where the...
00:20:04.50\00:20:07.77
the Ark of the Covenant
is taken in before Dagon
00:20:07.80\00:20:11.94
and Dagon falls
prostrate before the Ark,
00:20:11.97\00:20:15.54
it's... God lets us know
that His allowing this is not
00:20:15.58\00:20:21.58
because He can't do something,
00:20:21.62\00:20:24.32
it's because He
chooses not to do something
00:20:24.35\00:20:27.36
and so, it's not that He...
00:20:27.39\00:20:29.66
that this other
"god" was so powerful,
00:20:29.72\00:20:33.90
that he could take in
the things of our God...
00:20:33.93\00:20:38.23
no, it's that God just
allowed it for His own purposes
00:20:38.27\00:20:41.94
and I think
sometimes people misunderstand
00:20:41.97\00:20:45.17
and don't realize how
powerful and sovereign God is
00:20:45.21\00:20:49.61
but He... I
mean... He just allowed it,
00:20:49.64\00:20:52.88
He didn't... it wasn't...
00:20:52.91\00:20:54.55
it wasn't because He
couldn't do anything about it.
00:20:54.58\00:20:57.45
Ivor: That's a very
good point because God...
00:20:57.49\00:20:59.95
what you see here is...
and just what we read before
00:20:59.99\00:21:04.46
"I will bring them
there for their good... "
00:21:04.49\00:21:07.36
it's a very interesting phrase,
00:21:07.40\00:21:09.53
like, God is
allowing this to happen
00:21:09.56\00:21:11.60
for the good of His people.
00:21:11.63\00:21:13.74
For the revelation of
His character in them,
00:21:13.77\00:21:18.17
right, talking about
the good... the good fix,
00:21:18.21\00:21:22.58
right, so, in the same way,
00:21:22.64\00:21:24.91
we can look at what's going
to happen at the end of time,
00:21:24.95\00:21:28.28
because we know that Babylon
is going to make a move...
00:21:28.35\00:21:31.65
spiritual Babylon is going to
make a move against God's people
00:21:31.69\00:21:34.19
and God's going to
allow certain things to happen
00:21:34.22\00:21:37.43
but those things
are for our good.
00:21:37.46\00:21:40.50
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:21:40.53\00:21:41.86
Ivor: Right, they're going
to somehow or another benefit...
00:21:41.90\00:21:45.43
God is not saying, "I
don't care about you. "
00:21:45.47\00:21:46.97
He's saying, "I'm going to
allow these things to happen,
00:21:47.00\00:21:49.67
I'm going to... I don't
know... let the winds blow... "
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or "I'm going to allow these
things to occur for your good. "
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What's about to
happen is for your good
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in light of the big picture...
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in light of eternity,
this is for your good.
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Ivor: Yeah... yeah.
Yvonne: That's good.
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Jason: Another
interesting thing is that
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when people are
going through trials,
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how they react
during those trials
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is a witness to other people.
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So, when people are being
persecuted and all that stuff...
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I forgot where this was,
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but there was
persecution taking place
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and Christianity
just continued to grow
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rather than...
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James: Early church...
Yvonne: Like with Nero...
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James: The early church,
1,000s were added to the church,
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people were being crucified
left, right and center,
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I mean... persecuted
left, right and center,
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and yet the
church continued to grow.
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Jason: Yes, yes.
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James: Yeah, definitely...
a couple more verses
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I wanted to read
just to summarize this
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a little bit more
in John chapter 10.
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Now, we
referenced John chapter 10
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but I think the connection
here is really interesting
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in relationship to
what Yvonne just brought up
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so, John chapter 10...
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and let's just
start with verse 14
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and then read to verse 18.
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Jason: "I am the good
shepherd; and I know my sheep,
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and am known by My own.
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As the Father knows Me,
even so I know the Father;
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and I lay down My
life for the sheep.
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And other sheep I have
which are not of this fold;
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them also I must bring,
and they will hear My voice;
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and there will be one
flock and one shepherd.
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Therefore, My Father loves Me,
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because I lay down My
life that I may take it again.
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No one takes it from Me,
but I lay it down of Myself.
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I have power to lay it down,
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and I have power
to take it again.
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This command I have
received from My Father. "
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James: See how
those two thoughts
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are coming together here.
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So, what Yvonne was saying was,
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He didn't have
to humble Himself...
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He didn't have
to go to Babylon...
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He didn't have to let
them take those goods...
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God didn't have to do
that but He chose to do it.
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He chose to lay down
His life just like Calvary,
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He chose to lay it down... why?
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"Because I have other
sheep that are not of this fold.
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I want Nebuchadnezzar in heaven.
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Daniel, Daniel, I want
Nebuchadnezzar in heaven,
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Daniel, I want you to do
some Captive Evangelism. "
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That's what we talked
about, "Captive Evangelism... "
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"I want you to get in there
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and I want to use
you in a powerful way
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to reach that king's heart.
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I want to use you to
reach all of Babylon...
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I want that king
to be so impacted
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by this dream
I'm going to give him
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and the way I'm
going to work through you
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that the whole
world hears about this
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and that the prophecies
I'm going to give you...
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they're going to be...
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they're going to be
preaching these prophecies
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till the end of time. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... wow!
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Was it worth being a eunuch?
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Oh man!
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Daniel's like, "Really me? Wow!"
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I think at the end of
his life he'd look back
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and he'd go, "Wow! you know,
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I wouldn't have
it any other way. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... James:
The privilege they have,
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when Daniel gets to
heaven, he's like...
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looks at the way God
used him to speak to us...
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I mean, when I
came into the church,
00:24:49.18\00:24:51.42
Daniel 2 was like,
foundational for me,
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like, Daniel's
prophecies were like, "Wow!
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Yvonne: Hmmm... Ivor: Hmmm...
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James: For Daniel to
be able to see the impact
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that his life had
and the way God used him,
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I think it would
be the same with us.
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So, what it comes down to
Jason is, just trust in Him,
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like, trusting that God knows
00:25:07.37\00:25:09.30
ultimately what's going to
make us happy and fulfill us
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in this life as we go forward.
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Jason: Sounds like
Daniel found his purpose.
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James: Oh! that's it!
you're taking us in now,
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what are you doing? You're
taking us right in for it,
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right, you know
how that goes, right?
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That's... that's
Daniel chapter 1 and verse 8,
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yeah, that's Daniel 1 verse 8,
let's jump in there real quick,
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Daniel 1 verse 8, read
that verse for us Jason.
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Jason: "But Daniel
purposed in his heart... "
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James: Oh... he what?
Jason: He purposed in his heart.
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James: Oh...
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Jason: "that he
would not defile himself
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with the portion of
the king's delicacies,
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nor with the
wine which he drank;
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therefore he requested
of the chief of the eunuchs
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that he might
not defile himself. "
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James: Okay, I got a
new rendition of this verse
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from Jason...
inspired from Jason...
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All: Laughter.
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James: But Daniel
found purpose in his heart.
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Daniel found his
purpose in his heart,
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Daniel found God's
purpose for him in his heart.
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Because he found that
purpose, he made a decision,
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"I'm not defiling
myself, I've got a purpose...
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what's my purpose?
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My purpose is to be
God's instrument right here
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and God is going to use
me in a very powerful way. "
00:26:10.20\00:26:12.20
Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Ivor: Yeah.
00:26:12.23\00:26:13.57
James: "I'm going
to have this wisdom...
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I'm going to be a
channel for God to use. "
00:26:15.07\00:26:16.57
Ivor: You know,
it's interesting,
00:26:16.60\00:26:18.11
John would often write, "My
children... my children... "
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Paul would
write, "My children... "
00:26:20.54\00:26:23.08
and every time he... he
won someone to the Lord,
00:26:23.11\00:26:26.05
that was like his child...
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like, "I've begotten you... "
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so, while Daniel had no kids,
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he's going to have a
lot of kids in heaven.
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Yvonne: Wow!
come on... come on...
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Ivor: So, there's a whole
new family tree in heaven.
00:26:34.16\00:26:36.02
You know, and
the family tree is...
00:26:36.06\00:26:37.96
your family tree in heaven is,
"Who did you win to the Lord?"
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"Yeah, well, you know... " and
00:26:41.10\00:26:42.73
"Yeah, those are my
offspring right there... "
00:26:42.76\00:26:44.63
yes, you know, and
it's a whole new...
00:26:44.67\00:26:48.07
new thing so,
while Daniel was a eunuch
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and while he was not able
to have children in that sense,
00:26:51.44\00:26:57.01
in a spiritual context,
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"Wow! he has got
a lot of children. "
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Yvonne: Yes, that's good.
00:27:02.82\00:27:04.15
Ivor: Because
Daniel has done so much
00:27:04.19\00:27:06.15
to convert so many people...
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you know, it is
just... it's just amazing!
00:27:08.12\00:27:10.09
Yvonne: Amen.
00:27:10.13\00:27:11.46
James: And that's how
it's going to work for us
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and I want our... us to know
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and I want our
Viewers to know that
00:27:14.23\00:27:15.56
when we find God's
purpose in our heart,
00:27:15.60\00:27:17.70
when we know what His
purpose is for our lives,
00:27:17.73\00:27:20.04
oooh... it's
just going to explode.
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Yvonne: That's true.
00:27:22.14\00:27:23.47
James: There's going to
be fire. Yvonne: Very true.
00:27:23.51\00:27:25.61
James: It's going to be a
whole mentality that we have,
00:27:25.67\00:27:27.74
and you know
that, we all know that,
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because... because
we're here on this Set
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and we know this is
part of God's purpose
00:27:31.45\00:27:33.88
and that's what's
brought us together again
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from our different
places and those long hours
00:27:36.42\00:27:38.85
and this time and et cetera...
00:27:38.89\00:27:40.32
and we're just
like, "No, no, no...
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this is exciting... we
want to do this, you know. "
00:27:41.72\00:27:43.06
Yvonne: Yes.
00:27:43.09\00:27:44.43
James: Oh, how can they sit
at that table time after time?
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Because we found purpose.
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Yvonne: That's right...
amen. James: We found purpose.
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Praise God.
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