This is the everlasting gospel, Revelation 14 verse 6 00:00:29.96\00:00:33.40 and we've taken that phrase 00:00:33.43\00:00:35.16 which is unique to the whole Bible 00:00:35.20\00:00:37.20 and we've traced it through the New and the Old Testament 00:00:37.23\00:00:39.90 and we have found... 00:00:39.93\00:00:41.27 the Everlasting Gospel is the only way 00:00:41.30\00:00:42.64 anyone ever has been saved or ever will be saved 00:00:42.67\00:00:44.74 and that's why it's such good news. 00:00:44.77\00:00:46.27 This message has to go to all the world 00:00:46.31\00:00:48.38 we've still... we've... 00:00:48.41\00:00:49.74 we've just begun to understand it. 00:00:49.78\00:00:51.38 Hmmm... 00:00:51.41\00:00:52.75 Under the title of the "Everlasting Gospel" 00:00:52.78\00:00:54.12 comes a number of phrases that we're going to really look into 00:00:54.15\00:00:56.58 and understand, so, we need to have a word of prayer 00:00:56.62\00:00:59.05 for God's Holy Spirit to lead us 00:00:59.09\00:01:00.49 and then we need to jump right into this, 00:01:00.52\00:01:02.22 Jason, you want to pray for us? 00:01:02.26\00:01:03.59 Jason: Sure, "Dear Heavenly Father, 00:01:03.63\00:01:04.96 we thank you again to afford us this opportunity 00:01:04.99\00:01:08.36 to study your Word 00:01:08.40\00:01:09.73 and as we learn about the everlasting gospel, 00:01:09.76\00:01:13.03 we hope that it excites our Viewers 00:01:13.10\00:01:15.67 and gets everybody wanting 00:01:15.70\00:01:17.37 to share and spread the everlasting gospel, 00:01:17.41\00:01:20.24 we ask for your Holy Spirit to be with us 00:01:20.28\00:01:22.74 as we study, lead and guide us into all truth 00:01:22.78\00:01:25.11 in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 00:01:25.15\00:01:26.51 All: "Amen. " 00:01:26.55\00:01:27.88 "Everlasting" goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden. 00:01:27.92\00:01:30.09 Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves... 00:01:30.12\00:01:34.26 God clothed them with animal skins. 00:01:34.29\00:01:36.39 The sacrifice of the animal from the very beginning 00:01:36.42\00:01:39.39 pointed to the Lamb of God 00:01:39.43\00:01:40.76 that takes away the sins of the world. 00:01:40.80\00:01:42.13 Cain and Abel... Cain brought the fruits of his hands... 00:01:42.16\00:01:45.57 the labor of his hands and Abel brought the Lamb 00:01:45.60\00:01:47.87 and the crisis has from that time continued 00:01:47.90\00:01:52.07 all the way through every generation, 00:01:52.11\00:01:53.48 are we going to trust in the Lamb 00:01:53.51\00:01:54.84 or the works of our hands? 00:01:54.88\00:01:56.21 The Lamb... or the works of our hands... 00:01:56.24\00:01:58.41 so this is the consummation in Revelation 14 00:01:58.48\00:02:01.25 of the eternal crisis... when I say, "eternal" 00:02:01.28\00:02:03.42 I mean the crisis that has gone all the way back 00:02:03.45\00:02:05.55 to the very inception of sin... 00:02:05.59\00:02:07.22 it goes all the way back eternally 00:02:07.26\00:02:08.86 to the Plan of Salvation. 00:02:08.89\00:02:10.53 The Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. 00:02:10.56\00:02:13.29 It is a beautiful picture that we're seeing here 00:02:13.33\00:02:16.03 in the everlasting gospel... 00:02:16.06\00:02:17.40 the good news of how we're saved through the Lamb 00:02:17.43\00:02:20.24 from beginning to end. 00:02:20.27\00:02:21.64 and that's why I think it's so important for us 00:02:21.67\00:02:24.07 to make sure we understand 00:02:24.11\00:02:26.61 this message in its context 00:02:26.64\00:02:29.08 because it's going to produce a people 00:02:29.11\00:02:31.31 in verse 12 that keep the commandments of God. 00:02:31.35\00:02:32.78 Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments. " 00:02:32.81\00:02:35.52 There's no way 00:02:35.55\00:02:37.22 we're going to be able to keep the commandments of God 00:02:37.25\00:02:39.35 if we think that it's through keeping the commandments 00:02:39.39\00:02:41.69 that we're saved... it's just not going to happen. 00:02:41.72\00:02:44.23 The only way we're going to actually be enabled... 00:02:44.26\00:02:46.73 empowered to keep the commandments of God, 00:02:46.80\00:02:48.43 is realizing that we are saved totally a 100 percent 00:02:48.46\00:02:51.60 through the doing and dying of Jesus Christ 00:02:51.63\00:02:53.23 and that grabs the heart. 00:02:53.27\00:02:55.30 He has saved us, 00:02:55.34\00:02:57.11 He has purchased that as a gift that He gives to us, 00:02:57.14\00:03:00.28 and out of the appreciation for that, 00:03:00.34\00:03:02.78 we follow Him wherever He goes, 00:03:02.81\00:03:05.15 we keep His commandments 00:03:05.21\00:03:06.55 because we've fallen in love with Him 00:03:06.58\00:03:08.05 and that's the formula 00:03:08.08\00:03:09.42 that we're seeing here in Revelation 14... 00:03:09.45\00:03:10.95 that's the basic outline of the formula 00:03:10.99\00:03:12.62 now it has details and we want to look at the details, 00:03:12.65\00:03:15.39 the first detail that we see mentioned here 00:03:15.42\00:03:18.69 after the everlasting gospel 00:03:18.73\00:03:20.06 is... and by-the-way, 00:03:20.10\00:03:21.76 the everlasting gospel... Sanctuary... 00:03:21.80\00:03:23.67 like someone would say, 00:03:23.70\00:03:25.03 "Where's the everlasting gospel in the Old Testament?" 00:03:25.07\00:03:26.40 We looked in Exodus... 00:03:26.43\00:03:27.77 we found it there right before the commandments are given 00:03:27.80\00:03:29.14 we have the blood of the Lamb 00:03:29.17\00:03:30.51 that was put on the doorposts... on the lintels... 00:03:30.54\00:03:32.51 but... the sanctuary service... what was that all about? 00:03:32.54\00:03:35.88 Wasn't that a picture of salvation? 00:03:35.91\00:03:38.18 All the way through... 00:03:38.21\00:03:39.98 in the Old Testament you have the sacrifice of the lamb... 00:03:40.02\00:03:42.65 the sacrifice... the sacrifice, the sacrifice... 00:03:42.68\00:03:44.42 pointing people to... 00:03:44.45\00:03:45.79 in fact, if you look at the sanctuary itself, 00:03:45.82\00:03:47.72 you have a white linen wall 00:03:47.76\00:03:50.73 that was about nine feet tall 00:03:50.76\00:03:53.66 couldn't get under it, couldn't get over it, 00:03:53.70\00:03:55.76 "white" representing righteousness, 00:03:55.80\00:03:58.03 purity... there's no way that we can get in 00:03:58.07\00:04:01.40 and have that purity unless we go to the gate, 00:04:01.47\00:04:04.77 unless we go to the door 00:04:04.81\00:04:06.44 then He says, "I am the way, the truth and the life: 00:04:06.47\00:04:08.84 I am the door... 00:04:08.88\00:04:10.25 no man comes to the Father, but by me. " 00:04:10.28\00:04:11.61 You have to come in through the door 00:04:11.65\00:04:12.98 and in order to come in through the door, 00:04:13.01\00:04:14.42 you have to bring with you a lamb... 00:04:14.45\00:04:16.38 you have to have the sacrifice the lamb... 00:04:16.42\00:04:18.25 it's the blood of the lamb that gets us in, 00:04:18.29\00:04:20.19 that gets us back to God, 00:04:20.22\00:04:21.56 it gets us reconnected with God 00:04:21.59\00:04:22.92 so it's always through the blood, 00:04:22.96\00:04:24.76 always through the blood. 00:04:24.79\00:04:26.39 Okay, what's the first phrase of the everlasting gospel? 00:04:26.43\00:04:29.36 Let's read Revelation, 00:04:29.40\00:04:30.80 oh, Yvonne, why don't you read for us 00:04:30.83\00:04:32.17 Revelation 14 verse 7. 00:04:32.20\00:04:33.67 "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; 00:04:33.70\00:04:39.31 for the hour of his judgment has come: 00:04:39.37\00:04:41.81 and worship him who made heaven, and earth, 00:04:41.84\00:04:44.18 the sea, and springs of water. " 00:04:44.21\00:04:46.28 Now we touched on this a little bit with the Sabbath, 00:04:46.31\00:04:48.38 we're not going to get to the Sabbath right now, 00:04:48.42\00:04:50.79 though I want to say, from the outset 00:04:50.82\00:04:52.99 that Sabbath is part of the everlasting gospel 00:04:53.02\00:04:56.09 because it causes to rest in Jesus. 00:04:56.12\00:04:58.23 It causes to rest everything Jesus has done for us 00:04:58.26\00:05:01.36 and we'll look at that in more detail. 00:05:01.40\00:05:02.96 Yvonne: And what I just read is 00:05:03.00\00:05:04.33 the first angel's message, correct? 00:05:04.37\00:05:06.30 James: Yes, the first angel's message 00:05:06.33\00:05:08.20 which includes the everlasting gospel. 00:05:08.24\00:05:10.07 So, you can't just read verse 7 without verse 6, 00:05:10.11\00:05:14.38 verse 6 actually tells us what verse 7 means... 00:05:14.41\00:05:18.61 what does it mean to fear God 00:05:18.65\00:05:20.58 in the context of the everlasting gospel. 00:05:20.62\00:05:22.55 Now, we've defined the everlasting gospel 00:05:22.58\00:05:24.45 that's complete trust in Jesus for our salvation. 00:05:24.49\00:05:27.16 So, what does it mean to fear God in that context? 00:05:27.19\00:05:30.33 The word "fear" actually means "to be afraid of" 00:05:30.36\00:05:33.43 but it also means "to revere" 00:05:33.46\00:05:35.50 or to be "in awe" of God, 00:05:35.56\00:05:37.57 okay, so how do we define that 00:05:37.63\00:05:39.90 in the context of the everlasting gospel? 00:05:39.93\00:05:41.27 Let me just give you two verses that we can look at, 00:05:41.30\00:05:43.84 the first one is in Psalm 130 verses 3 and 4 00:05:43.87\00:05:48.21 Jason, if you can look up Psalm 130:3 and 4 00:05:48.24\00:05:52.41 and then Yvonne, the second one is Psalm 147 verses 11. 00:05:52.45\00:05:56.89 Psalm 147 verse 11 and these verses will instruct us 00:05:56.92\00:06:01.32 or tell us what it means to fear God, 00:06:01.36\00:06:04.23 Psalm 130:3 and 4 and then Psalm 147 verse 11. 00:06:04.29\00:06:07.73 Jason: Okay, Psalm 130 verses 3 and 4, 00:06:07.76\00:06:11.63 "If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, 00:06:11.67\00:06:15.50 O LORD, who shall stand? 00:06:15.54\00:06:16.87 But there is forgiveness with thee, 00:06:16.91\00:06:19.04 that thou mayest be feared. " 00:06:19.07\00:06:20.48 James: "Forgiveness with thee that thou mayest be feared. " 00:06:20.51\00:06:23.68 Okay, what does 147:11 say? 00:06:23.71\00:06:25.38 Yvonne: "The LORD takes pleasure in those who fear him, 00:06:25.41\00:06:27.88 in those who hope in his mercy. " 00:06:27.92\00:06:29.92 James: Oh... everlasting gospel, 00:06:29.95\00:06:33.52 hope in the mercy of God... 00:06:33.56\00:06:34.89 everlasting gospel... 00:06:34.92\00:06:36.26 God doesn't count our sins against us 00:06:36.29\00:06:37.63 that's what it means to fear Him... 00:06:37.66\00:06:38.99 to fear God is to know 00:06:39.03\00:06:41.93 that He doesn't count our sins against us 00:06:41.96\00:06:43.30 otherwise we'd be destroyed, it's the hope in His mercy 00:06:43.33\00:06:45.17 so, in the context of the everlasting gospel 00:06:45.20\00:06:48.20 fearing God is to hope in His mercy, 00:06:48.27\00:06:49.97 look at this in relation to Exodus 20, 00:06:50.01\00:06:51.81 Exodus 20... it's really interesting... 00:06:51.84\00:06:53.58 we've looked at this already... 00:06:53.61\00:06:54.94 it's relation to the Ten Commandments 00:06:54.98\00:06:56.31 but have you ever noticed 00:06:56.34\00:06:57.68 that Exodus 20 closes in verse 20 00:06:57.71\00:07:01.65 with this definition of fear, 00:07:01.68\00:07:04.55 Exodus 20 verse 20 says... 00:07:04.59\00:07:07.36 Moses speaks to the people and he says, 00:07:07.39\00:07:10.59 "Fear not... Moses said unto the people, 00:07:10.63\00:07:13.60 Fear not: for God is come to prove you, 00:07:13.63\00:07:16.40 that his fear may be before your faces, that you... " 00:07:16.43\00:07:20.10 Yvonne: "may not sin... " 00:07:20.14\00:07:22.07 Do you notice that there's two mentions of fear in there? 00:07:22.10\00:07:25.34 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... 00:07:25.37\00:07:27.28 the first one is, "Don't fear... " 00:07:27.31\00:07:29.14 and the second one is, is what? "His fear... " 00:07:29.18\00:07:31.65 there's a fear that you ought to have 00:07:31.68\00:07:33.72 and there's a fear that you're not to have 00:07:33.75\00:07:35.08 you go back to the Garden of Eden 00:07:35.12\00:07:37.09 Adam and Eve sinned and what did they do? 00:07:37.12\00:07:39.09 Jason: They hid. 00:07:39.12\00:07:41.82 James: They hid... and when God came looking for them, 00:07:41.86\00:07:43.53 and he found them, what did they say? 00:07:43.56\00:07:44.89 God said, "Why were you hiding?" And what did they say? 00:07:44.93\00:07:47.86 Yvonne: "We were afraid. " 00:07:47.90\00:07:49.23 There's a natural fear and then there's a supernatural fear 00:07:49.26\00:07:52.17 the natural fear is our human fear 00:07:52.23\00:07:54.60 and the supernatural fear is God's fear... 00:07:54.64\00:07:56.77 so Moses says, "Don't be afraid" natural fear 00:07:56.81\00:07:58.87 God has come to put His fear in you, 00:07:58.91\00:08:00.84 if you're afraid of God, you hide from God... 00:08:00.88\00:08:03.45 if you have God's fear, you obey God... you don't sin. 00:08:03.48\00:08:06.38 Jason: You worship Him. 00:08:06.41\00:08:08.95 James: Yes, God's fear leads you away from sin... 00:08:08.98\00:08:11.39 your fear leads you away from God. 00:08:11.42\00:08:13.79 You got that? 00:08:13.82\00:08:15.56 God's fear leads you away from sin... 00:08:15.59\00:08:17.06 your fear leads you away from God. 00:08:17.09\00:08:18.53 Adam and Eve's fear led them away from God 00:08:18.56\00:08:20.83 but when God's fear is in them, it leads them away from sin, 00:08:20.86\00:08:24.00 so, the everlasting gospel leads us away from sin 00:08:24.03\00:08:26.94 because it puts the fear of God in our hearts 00:08:27.00\00:08:29.84 and that's a "God thing" that's what God wants to do 00:08:29.87\00:08:33.31 He wants to put our fear... excuse me, 00:08:33.34\00:08:36.68 His fear in our hearts and take away our fear 00:08:36.71\00:08:38.71 "perfect loves casts out... " what? 00:08:38.75\00:08:40.08 Yvonne: All fear. 00:08:40.12\00:08:41.45 James: Yeah, 1st John chapter 4 and verse... what? 18... 00:08:41.48\00:08:45.35 "Perfect love casts out all fear... " 00:08:45.39\00:08:48.69 so, how do you correlate that with Revelation 14, 00:08:48.72\00:08:52.59 "Fear God... " 00:08:52.63\00:08:54.10 "Perfect love casts out all fear... " 00:08:54.13\00:08:55.53 it's the two kinds of fear, 00:08:55.56\00:08:57.87 so, Revelation 20:20 gives us the two kinds of fear, 00:08:57.90\00:09:00.77 the one fear that needs to go 00:09:00.80\00:09:02.14 and the other fear that needs to come in. 00:09:02.17\00:09:03.54 Ivor: Yeah, I'm going to add here 00:09:03.57\00:09:05.37 because from our last program, 00:09:05.41\00:09:07.68 we talked about those four things 00:09:07.71\00:09:09.91 right, from the beast, 00:09:09.94\00:09:11.68 there was the worship of the beast 00:09:11.71\00:09:13.31 and to worship means to fear, 00:09:13.35\00:09:15.02 "Fear God and worship Him" 00:09:15.05\00:09:16.69 there's a worship of the beast, there's his image, 00:09:16.75\00:09:20.49 there's his name... and then there's his mark... 00:09:20.56\00:09:24.23 these are the four things he's trying to deceive us on 00:09:24.26\00:09:26.73 well, guess what? 00:09:26.76\00:09:28.20 when you get to the first angel's message, 00:09:28.23\00:09:31.10 you find, four things, fear God... give glory to Him... 00:09:31.13\00:09:36.14 the hour of His judgment is come 00:09:36.17\00:09:38.14 and worship Him that made heaven, the earth, the sea... 00:09:38.17\00:09:41.11 four things... very interesting... 00:09:41.14\00:09:42.88 and when you take those four things, 00:09:42.91\00:09:44.58 you look at those again, fear of the Lord, fear God... 00:09:44.61\00:09:47.35 that's what the first commandment points us to, 00:09:47.42\00:09:50.15 "Don't have... don't worship any other gods before me... 00:09:50.19\00:09:53.15 fear me... " 00:09:53.19\00:09:54.52 Paul talks about it in the book of Romans 00:09:54.56\00:09:56.93 how instead of giving glory to God, 00:09:56.96\00:09:59.59 they give glory to idols... 00:09:59.63\00:10:02.96 that's a direct violation of the second commandment. 00:10:03.00\00:10:06.60 "The hour of His judgment is come... " 00:10:06.63\00:10:09.00 well, what are we judged on? 00:10:09.04\00:10:10.37 God is looking at our characters, right, 00:10:10.41\00:10:13.48 our character is our name and what name are we taking on? 00:10:13.51\00:10:18.48 We're taking on the name of Christ 00:10:18.51\00:10:19.85 so we're being judged... 00:10:19.88\00:10:21.68 in other words... he's saying, 00:10:21.75\00:10:23.08 "Look, as Christians, I don't want you to take my name... 00:10:23.12\00:10:24.49 you take my name upon you, don't take it in vain. " 00:10:24.52\00:10:26.72 So, the hour of His judgment is come, 00:10:26.76\00:10:28.62 He is judging you based on... not just what you say... 00:10:28.66\00:10:31.86 but on your very character 00:10:31.89\00:10:33.66 and then the fourth, 00:10:33.70\00:10:35.46 "Worship Him that made heaven, 00:10:35.50\00:10:37.27 the earth, the sea and the fountains... " 00:10:37.33\00:10:38.67 points us right back to the Sabbath Commandment 00:10:38.70\00:10:40.70 so, what do you have? 00:10:40.74\00:10:42.14 The beast in Revelation 13 00:10:42.17\00:10:44.11 is trying to lead us to break those four commandments, 00:10:44.14\00:10:48.18 first four... the first angel's message comes along and says, 00:10:48.21\00:10:51.35 "Hey, you want to avoid this, you want to avoid this section, 00:10:51.38\00:10:54.52 this is what needs to happen" 00:10:54.55\00:10:55.88 and the interesting thing about the commandments... 00:10:55.92\00:10:59.59 James... is that... 00:10:59.62\00:11:00.96 when people say the commandments are about works, 00:11:00.99\00:11:03.73 and the Sabbath is about works, 00:11:03.76\00:11:07.66 I mean, think about how crazy that sounds, 00:11:07.70\00:11:11.33 so, God says, the Sabbath is about rest, 00:11:11.40\00:11:15.17 what? 00:11:15.20\00:11:19.64 "Because the Sabbath is about rest 00:11:19.67\00:11:21.78 so, how can it be about works?" 00:11:21.81\00:11:23.68 James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:11:23.71\00:11:25.48 Ivor: When you obey the Sabbath, He says, "You are resting in me" 00:11:25.51\00:11:29.22 and notice how the commandments begin, 00:11:29.25\00:11:31.49 "Thou shalt not... " you know, "Don't... " 00:11:31.52\00:11:34.52 right, it's not "Do this... " or "Do this... " 00:11:34.59\00:11:37.56 "or do this... " it's rest... 00:11:37.59\00:11:39.53 it's... "Do not... do not... do not" 00:11:39.59\00:11:42.76 it's almost like... after God saves us... 00:11:42.80\00:11:44.63 and we're like, "God... what can we...?" 00:11:44.67\00:11:46.00 He says, "Don't... don't do anything, 00:11:46.03\00:11:47.37 just rest in me... " okay? 00:11:47.40\00:11:50.44 "Just rest in me... " 00:11:50.51\00:11:52.34 the commandments are really about resting in Christ, 00:11:52.37\00:11:57.75 not allowing our works, right, 00:11:57.78\00:12:01.08 to overpower what Christ is trying to do in us, 00:12:01.12\00:12:04.75 so the "work" for the Christian is really... 00:12:04.79\00:12:08.22 in resting in Christ. 00:12:08.29\00:12:09.62 He said, "When you rest in me... I do the work through you. " 00:12:09.66\00:12:13.09 Right, "I'm the One that enables you to follow my commandments, 00:12:13.16\00:12:17.70 to do these things... it's not you... 00:12:17.73\00:12:19.77 it's Christ in you. " 00:12:19.80\00:12:21.64 But in order for us to have that, 00:12:21.67\00:12:23.30 we have to learn how to "rest in Him. " 00:12:23.34\00:12:26.31 And that's basically what He's calling us to... 00:12:26.34\00:12:28.61 so when it goes back to Cain and Abel, 00:12:28.64\00:12:32.55 one trusting in the works of his hands, 00:12:32.58\00:12:36.42 the other trusting in the blood of the Lamb, 00:12:36.45\00:12:38.95 it's the same battle that comes right back 00:12:38.99\00:12:41.46 to the very end of time. 00:12:41.49\00:12:43.02 Right, it's interesting because Ezekiel chapter 20 verse 12, 00:12:43.06\00:12:46.90 where God says, "I want you to keep my Sabbath 00:12:46.93\00:12:49.10 that you might know that I am the Lord that sanctifies you. " 00:12:49.13\00:12:52.83 Right, and that verse is very powerful because 00:12:52.87\00:12:55.94 remember what Lucifer wanted to do in heaven? 00:12:55.97\00:12:59.21 Lucifer wanted to push this concept of self-sanctification. 00:12:59.24\00:13:03.41 "I can sanctify... I don't need you to sanctify me, 00:13:03.45\00:13:06.85 I can determine for myself what is holy. " 00:13:06.88\00:13:09.32 So God gives man the Sabbath and says, 00:13:09.38\00:13:11.75 "Listen, the Sabbath is to be a sign that you remember 00:13:11.79\00:13:14.99 that you don't sanctify yourself... 00:13:15.02\00:13:17.56 I sanctify you... your works can't fix you... 00:13:17.59\00:13:21.30 the things you do can't... " 00:13:21.33\00:13:23.13 so, I want you to remember in resting... 00:13:23.16\00:13:26.57 that it's not your works, I sanctify you... 00:13:26.60\00:13:29.90 anything else is self-sanctification 00:13:29.94\00:13:33.61 which means I'm going to take righteousness into my own hands 00:13:33.64\00:13:37.21 and I'm going to determine for myself 00:13:37.25\00:13:38.71 what is right and what is wrong. 00:13:38.75\00:13:40.85 Jason: Which is scary because today you see... 00:13:40.88\00:13:42.98 I've heard and I've seen different posts and stuff, 00:13:43.02\00:13:46.35 where people say... "Determine your truth... " 00:13:46.42\00:13:50.03 or something... "Live by your truth... " 00:13:50.06\00:13:53.33 like, if you're living by your own truth, 00:13:53.36\00:13:55.86 you're not living by the Word of God, 00:13:55.90\00:13:58.07 you're... how can you have all these different... 00:13:58.10\00:14:03.27 your own variation of truth? 00:14:03.30\00:14:04.94 Would this... needs to be the standard... the Bible... 00:14:04.97\00:14:09.21 the Word of God needs to be the standard, 00:14:09.24\00:14:11.15 it can determine your truth 00:14:11.18\00:14:12.81 and that's along the lines of that self-sanctification. 00:14:12.85\00:14:16.89 Ivor: That's right, yeah, "I sanctify myself. " 00:14:16.92\00:14:19.69 James: That's why Jesus said, 00:14:19.72\00:14:21.39 "Except your righteousness exceeds 00:14:21.42\00:14:23.32 the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, 00:14:23.36\00:14:25.16 you can no wise enter the kingdom of heaven. " 00:14:25.19\00:14:27.43 He wasn't trying to lay the standard higher, 00:14:27.46\00:14:29.70 in the sense of... "You need to do more than them 00:14:29.73\00:14:32.23 they're not doing enough... you need to do more than them, 00:14:32.27\00:14:34.94 you got to exceed their righteousness... " 00:14:34.97\00:14:36.30 He was setting the standard so high that it was unattainable 00:14:36.34\00:14:40.88 and He's basically saying, 00:14:40.91\00:14:42.24 "Unless you have my righteousness... 00:14:42.28\00:14:43.81 which is perfect righteousness, 00:14:43.85\00:14:45.18 you're not going to make it to the kingdom of heaven. " 00:14:45.21\00:14:46.55 Because their righteousness is just outward... 00:14:46.58\00:14:48.68 it's their own standard... 00:14:48.72\00:14:50.52 they've set a certain standard up 00:14:50.55\00:14:52.29 and that's the standard that they are laying out to attain to 00:14:52.32\00:14:55.69 and that standard is not going to make it... 00:14:55.72\00:14:57.06 the only standard that's going to make it 00:14:57.09\00:14:58.43 is the perfect standard... and only Christ has that to offer. 00:14:58.46\00:15:00.40 Jason: Yeah. Yvonne: Right. 00:15:00.43\00:15:01.76 Ivor: So, it's... it's... 00:15:01.80\00:15:03.13 we have to remember that we're not saved by our works... 00:15:03.16\00:15:09.30 "Okay, I kept the commandments really good 00:15:09.34\00:15:12.27 so, God's going to save me... " 00:15:12.31\00:15:13.64 no, we are only saved by mercy, right, 00:15:13.68\00:15:16.85 and you go into the Sanctuary and what do you find 00:15:16.88\00:15:19.51 in the Most Holy Place, you find a Mercy Seat... 00:15:19.55\00:15:22.15 that is the Mercy Seat... 00:15:22.18\00:15:24.92 the throne of grace, if you will, 00:15:24.95\00:15:26.39 so, guess what? I want to be under mercy 00:15:26.42\00:15:29.16 right, and Satan knows that those who are under mercy 00:15:29.19\00:15:33.13 are the ones that are going to be saved, 00:15:33.19\00:15:34.93 so, in order for me to be under the Mercy Seat, 00:15:34.96\00:15:38.73 guess where I'm standing? 00:15:38.77\00:15:40.10 Right in the midst of His law, because His law is right there 00:15:40.14\00:15:45.24 under the Mercy Seat, 00:15:45.27\00:15:46.61 if I'm standing in... under Mercy... 00:15:46.64\00:15:49.38 that means, I'm standing in His law 00:15:49.41\00:15:52.25 and what does he say, 00:15:52.31\00:15:53.65 "Showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me 00:15:53.68\00:15:58.09 and keep my commandments. " 00:15:58.15\00:16:00.06 So we're not saved because we keep the commandments, 00:16:00.09\00:16:02.62 we're saved because we're under His mercy, 00:16:02.66\00:16:04.26 but being under His mercy... 00:16:04.29\00:16:05.93 we're walking in His commandments. 00:16:05.96\00:16:08.90 Why? Because He says, "If you love me... " 00:16:08.93\00:16:11.33 right, "If you are grateful for what I have done in your life, 00:16:11.37\00:16:15.40 then, this is the appropriate response. " 00:16:15.44\00:16:17.74 James: And if we're walking in the law 00:16:17.77\00:16:20.01 and we're standing in the law, we need His mercy. 00:16:20.04\00:16:21.38 Ivor: That's right. 00:16:21.41\00:16:22.74 James: It's when we discard the law 00:16:22.78\00:16:24.11 that we no longer really need the mercy of God 00:16:24.15\00:16:25.48 because there's no standard by which we're judged, 00:16:25.51\00:16:27.98 there's no feeling of guilt, 00:16:28.02\00:16:29.38 there's no... there's no sense 00:16:29.42\00:16:30.75 in which we feel a need for mercy we've attained 00:16:30.79\00:16:34.19 so, when we're standing in the law... 00:16:34.26\00:16:36.66 we are feeling a need of mercy 00:16:36.69\00:16:38.69 because that law magnifies who we are 00:16:38.73\00:16:41.00 and our weakness and our failures 00:16:41.03\00:16:43.23 and when we're standing under mercy, we're standing in the law 00:16:43.26\00:16:45.87 so it works both ways. 00:16:45.93\00:16:47.67 Under mercy, we stand in the law... 00:16:47.70\00:16:49.44 saying, "law... we need mercy" 00:16:49.47\00:16:50.81 it's... it's this circle of beneficence. 00:16:50.84\00:16:53.27 Ivor: That's right. James: Good will... 00:16:53.31\00:16:55.38 and that's why the law is so vital, 00:16:55.41\00:16:57.05 Paul says, "Without the law, I didn't know sin... 00:16:57.08\00:16:59.91 it was the law that showed me how sinful I was... 00:16:59.95\00:17:02.58 and that law that showed me how sinful I was, 00:17:02.62\00:17:05.22 drove me to the Messiah... drove me to Jesus. " 00:17:05.25\00:17:07.86 When Paul had his own standard, he wasn't driven to Christ 00:17:07.89\00:17:10.66 but when he realized the standard of the law, 00:17:10.69\00:17:12.93 it drove him to put his dependence on Jesus Christ. 00:17:12.96\00:17:15.10 Ivor: So, what's important about that? 00:17:15.13\00:17:16.93 Is that the law is what drives us to Christ 00:17:16.97\00:17:19.73 okay, if we don't have the law or we have a counterfeit law, 00:17:19.77\00:17:24.01 it's going to drive us to the wrong "Christ" 00:17:24.04\00:17:26.51 and remember the context of the three angels' messages, 00:17:26.54\00:17:29.81 is preparing us 00:17:29.84\00:17:31.81 for that delusion that's coming up on the world, right, 00:17:31.88\00:17:35.52 so, if I'm thinking one thing, "I can sanctify myself... 00:17:35.55\00:17:39.19 I don't need a law in order to be holy... " 00:17:39.22\00:17:41.69 because remember, that was his argument in heaven, right, 00:17:41.72\00:17:43.66 "I don't need a law to be like God... I can be holy by myself, 00:17:43.69\00:17:46.73 I don't need some written thing 00:17:46.76\00:17:49.80 telling me what is right and what is wrong... " 00:17:49.86\00:17:52.03 that argument actually leads us 00:17:52.07\00:17:55.67 to reject the righteousness of Christ 00:17:55.70\00:17:57.77 and prepares us to be deceived by the unrighteousness of Satan 00:17:57.81\00:18:03.04 and so that is what the importance of this... 00:18:03.08\00:18:08.18 three angels' messages... is again designed to shield us 00:18:08.22\00:18:11.45 from the delusion coming upon the world 00:18:11.52\00:18:13.79 that's why the 2nd angels' message 00:18:13.82\00:18:15.66 comes right after the first, 00:18:15.69\00:18:17.23 right, "Hey, beware of Babylon, it has a false gospel, 00:18:17.26\00:18:20.53 false covenant... " we talked about the wine 00:18:20.56\00:18:24.63 these things are a counterfeit of the genuine, 00:18:24.70\00:18:28.74 and so, the first angel's message 00:18:28.77\00:18:30.61 opens our eyes... not only to the truth 00:18:30.64\00:18:32.37 but also to the counterfeit. 00:18:32.41\00:18:34.21 James: Okay, two verses... someone has... no... yeah... no, 00:18:34.24\00:18:38.61 two verses, "Fear God and give glory to Him" 00:18:38.65\00:18:42.38 what does it mean to give glory to God 00:18:42.42\00:18:44.12 in the context of the everlasting gospel, 00:18:44.15\00:18:45.75 now we've defined the everlasting gospel as salvation, 00:18:45.79\00:18:48.06 Old and New Testament... in Christ... 00:18:48.12\00:18:50.09 the doing and dying of Jesus Christ 00:18:50.13\00:18:51.56 so what does it mean to give glory to him in that context? 00:18:51.59\00:18:53.90 Ephesians 2 verse 8... Ephesians 2 verse 8 00:18:53.93\00:18:58.43 and Yvonne, 1st Corinthians chapter 1 verses 30 and 31 00:18:58.47\00:19:06.81 I think it might be 29... but I'm going to say, 00:19:06.84\00:19:09.28 Ephesians 2 verse 8 00:19:09.31\00:19:10.65 and then 1st Corinthians chapter 1 verse 30. 00:19:10.68\00:19:13.75 When I get there, I'll see if it's verse 29 00:19:13.78\00:19:16.52 but I think it's verse 30. 00:19:16.55\00:19:17.89 Jason: Ephesians 2 verse 8 reads, 00:19:17.92\00:19:20.02 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; 00:19:20.06\00:19:22.36 and that not of yourselves... " 00:19:22.39\00:19:24.33 let me start over... 00:19:24.36\00:19:25.69 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; 00:19:25.73\00:19:27.60 and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God... " 00:19:27.63\00:19:30.47 James: Read verse 9... sorry... 00:19:30.50\00:19:33.74 Jason: Nine... "Not of works, lest any man should boast. " 00:19:33.77\00:19:37.07 James: Okay, you know what that word, "boast" means 00:19:37.11\00:19:38.81 in the Greek? 00:19:38.84\00:19:40.18 It means to glory... to boast... to glory... 00:19:40.21\00:19:43.45 so, this is the... this is the key verse 00:19:43.48\00:19:46.92 in the New Testament that most people turn to 00:19:46.95\00:19:49.62 when they say that we're saved by grace... 00:19:49.65\00:19:52.32 we're not under the Old Testament... 00:19:52.35\00:19:53.76 we're not under the law... 00:19:53.79\00:19:55.12 we don't have to keep the law anymore, 00:19:55.16\00:19:56.49 right here, Ephesians says, we're saved by grace... 00:19:56.52\00:19:57.86 well, yeah, that's true, 00:19:57.89\00:19:59.23 we're saved by grace through faith... 00:19:59.26\00:20:00.60 and not of ourselves... it's the gift of God... 00:20:00.63\00:20:02.60 not of works... that's the way man showeth glory... 00:20:02.63\00:20:04.67 "Fear God and you give glory to Him... " means... 00:20:04.70\00:20:06.74 to believe that we're saved by grace. 00:20:06.77\00:20:08.37 We can own this verse... 00:20:08.40\00:20:10.81 as commandment-keepers, we can own this verse. 00:20:10.84\00:20:13.41 This is a good verse for us 00:20:13.44\00:20:15.18 because it shows us what it means to give glory to God, 00:20:15.21\00:20:18.61 what it means, "to give glory to God" 00:20:18.65\00:20:19.98 is to believe we're saved completely by grace. 00:20:20.02\00:20:21.62 We are saved completely by grace, 00:20:21.65\00:20:23.49 okay, 1st Corinthians chapter 1 beginning with verse 29, 00:20:23.52\00:20:26.52 "That no flesh should glory in his presence... " 00:20:26.55\00:20:30.09 start there? James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:20:30.13\00:20:32.03 "But of him you are in Christ Jesus 00:20:32.06\00:20:33.93 who became for us wisdom from God, and righteousness, 00:20:33.96\00:20:37.57 and sanctification, and redemption: 00:20:37.60\00:20:39.47 That, as it is written, 00:20:39.50\00:20:41.37 He who glories, let him glory in the Lord. " 00:20:41.40\00:20:43.91 James: Christ is everything, He's our wisdom... 00:20:43.94\00:20:47.81 He's our righteousness, He's our sanctification, 00:20:47.84\00:20:51.71 and He's our redemption. 00:20:51.75\00:20:53.08 Justification, sanctification, glorification. 00:20:53.11\00:20:56.38 He's everything, why? So that we don't glory. 00:20:56.42\00:20:59.85 So that we give glory to God, 00:20:59.89\00:21:01.42 we're saved by grace so we can give glory to God, 00:21:01.49\00:21:03.79 Jesus is everything, so we can give glory to God, 00:21:03.83\00:21:06.09 we don't get any glory, we get zero glory... 00:21:06.16\00:21:09.26 you remember when the Jews came to Jesus 00:21:09.30\00:21:11.93 and they said, "Hey... " they said... 00:21:11.97\00:21:14.54 "there's a centurion who has a servant who's sick 00:21:14.60\00:21:18.47 and he's worthy because he's built us a synagogue 00:21:18.51\00:21:22.38 could you go and heal his servant... he's worthy... " 00:21:22.44\00:21:25.15 that's when the Jews said, 00:21:25.18\00:21:26.51 "he's worthy... he's built us a synagogue... 00:21:26.55\00:21:27.88 see what he's done for us, he's worthy. " 00:21:27.92\00:21:29.25 Do you remember what the centurion said, 00:21:29.28\00:21:30.82 when the centurion... who wouldn't even go to Jesus, 00:21:30.85\00:21:32.62 when the centurion heard that Jesus was coming to his place, 00:21:32.65\00:21:35.59 do you know what he said? 00:21:35.62\00:21:36.96 Yvonne: He wasn't worthy. 00:21:36.99\00:21:38.33 James: He said, "I'm not worthy... " 00:21:38.36\00:21:39.69 now, I want to ask you a question, 00:21:39.73\00:21:41.06 who is telling the truth? 00:21:41.10\00:21:42.43 Because think about this, the Pharisees said he was worthy 00:21:42.46\00:21:44.77 the Jews said he was worthy 00:21:44.80\00:21:46.17 and the centurion said... he wasn't worthy. 00:21:46.20\00:21:48.30 They were religious, 00:21:48.34\00:21:49.80 he was a centurion... he was a soldier. 00:21:49.84\00:21:51.37 Who was telling the truth on a religious basis? 00:21:51.41\00:21:53.78 The centurion was telling the truth. 00:21:53.81\00:21:56.85 The religious leaders were off, the church guys were off, 00:21:56.91\00:22:00.62 "he built us a church... but we don't even know the gospel" 00:22:00.68\00:22:04.35 but the centurion knows the gospel... 00:22:04.42\00:22:06.15 the gospel is, "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy... " 00:22:06.19\00:22:08.82 "But he built you a church... " 00:22:08.86\00:22:10.19 "But that doesn't make me worthy... " 00:22:10.23\00:22:11.56 it doesn't matter how much money you give to the church, 00:22:11.59\00:22:13.96 it doesn't matter if you build churches, 00:22:14.00\00:22:16.03 you can build churches for God and you're still not worthy. 00:22:16.06\00:22:18.80 Jason: Another thing is... I mean... 00:22:18.83\00:22:20.84 you can do great things with the wrong motives... 00:22:20.90\00:22:24.71 if you don't have pure motives behind it... 00:22:24.77\00:22:28.44 if you're doing it for... if you have ulterior motives... 00:22:28.51\00:22:32.08 basically... those good works... 00:22:32.11\00:22:34.48 I mean... it doesn't mean anything. 00:22:34.52\00:22:36.28 James: It doesn't but now, Jason, 00:22:36.32\00:22:38.65 I want to take you one step further than that... 00:22:38.69\00:22:40.26 let's say you do good things for the right motives... 00:22:40.29\00:22:42.62 Jason: Still not saved by your... 00:22:42.66\00:22:45.46 James: It's not going to save you, is it? 00:22:45.49\00:22:46.83 Yeah... See that? 00:22:46.86\00:22:48.20 Even if you do good things... now... good works are good 00:22:48.23\00:22:51.30 they're great... they're fantastic... 00:22:51.33\00:22:53.03 but they don't save you, 00:22:53.07\00:22:54.40 you never move into "savable character" 00:22:54.44\00:22:56.20 because of your works. 00:22:56.24\00:22:57.57 "Savable" is always Christ... always ever will be Christ... 00:22:57.61\00:23:01.11 now your works testified you're trusting in Him. 00:23:01.14\00:23:03.14 Yvonne: Isn't Christianity the only religion that teaches that? 00:23:03.18\00:23:07.38 James: Yes. 00:23:07.42\00:23:08.75 Yvonne: Because most other religions... it's what you do... 00:23:08.78\00:23:12.05 be a good person... I heard so many people say, 00:23:12.09\00:23:14.82 "I'm a good person... why wouldn't I be saved? 00:23:14.86\00:23:17.36 I'm a good person... " 00:23:17.43\00:23:18.76 Well, it's not about how "good" we are... 00:23:18.79\00:23:21.96 we can do X, Y, Z's for people 00:23:22.00\00:23:24.53 and all that stuff... it's about what Jesus did... 00:23:24.57\00:23:27.27 James: Right... you just nailed it... 00:23:27.30\00:23:29.90 you just nailed it... yeah... 00:23:29.94\00:23:31.94 C.S. Lewis talked about this, 00:23:31.97\00:23:33.51 he once walked into a room 00:23:33.54\00:23:35.01 where they were all trying to figure out... 00:23:35.04\00:23:36.54 where these theologians were trying to figure out 00:23:36.58\00:23:38.11 what unique contribution 00:23:38.15\00:23:40.82 Christianity gave to the world religions? 00:23:40.85\00:23:42.75 And they were saying, "Well, no, you know, 00:23:42.78\00:23:44.55 Judaism offers this... that's just what Christianity... 00:23:44.59\00:23:46.86 you know... the Muslims offer... 00:23:46.89\00:23:49.29 that's just Christianity... oh, what's unique? 00:23:49.32\00:23:51.66 And C.S. Lewis said, "That's easy... grace... " 00:23:51.69\00:23:54.00 Christianity is the only religion 00:23:54.03\00:23:56.80 that offers salvation through grace... " 00:23:56.83\00:23:59.73 No creature merit whatsoever... 00:23:59.80\00:24:02.00 every other religions has the... the "works" mentality 00:24:02.04\00:24:05.71 it's built into the System... 00:24:05.74\00:24:07.08 Christianity is the only religion 00:24:07.11\00:24:09.14 that you're saved totally by grace. 00:24:09.21\00:24:11.31 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:24:11.35\00:24:12.68 Ivor: This statement, "Give glory to Him... " 00:24:12.71\00:24:15.18 is... in an end-time context... absolutely crucial... 00:24:15.22\00:24:19.99 because what God is saying is, 00:24:20.02\00:24:22.56 "I don't want you to glorify yourself... 00:24:22.59\00:24:26.03 I don't want you to glorify anybody else 00:24:26.06\00:24:29.46 I want you to give glory to me. " 00:24:29.50\00:24:32.33 And the reason He's saying is because... 00:24:32.37\00:24:34.60 to glorify, of course, means to lift up, 00:24:34.64\00:24:37.67 we're into glorifying self or others 00:24:37.71\00:24:40.28 because as humans we like glory, 00:24:40.31\00:24:42.68 we like glory... and if we don't see glory, 00:24:42.71\00:24:47.48 we're not attracted to glory, 00:24:47.52\00:24:49.45 that's why Jesus was rejected because he did not come in glory 00:24:49.48\00:24:53.69 He came and those who liked glory were like... "Hmmm... " 00:24:53.76\00:24:59.03 when they saw Him there was nothing 00:24:59.09\00:25:01.00 that they should desire Him 00:25:01.03\00:25:02.46 so it was like, "Hmmm... " 00:25:02.50\00:25:03.93 and the reason Jesus is giving us this message at this time 00:25:03.97\00:25:07.54 is because He knows that there is One coming 00:25:07.57\00:25:11.44 who is going to look full of glory 00:25:11.47\00:25:14.51 and those who are into glorifying self, 00:25:14.54\00:25:17.35 and glorifying other... "Oh! glory... 00:25:17.41\00:25:20.18 look at that glory... 00:25:20.22\00:25:22.18 ooooh... Man!" 00:25:22.22\00:25:23.55 So Jesus is like, 00:25:23.59\00:25:24.92 "Look, you need to be prepared for this 00:25:24.95\00:25:28.22 so I want you to learn how to give glory to me. 00:25:28.26\00:25:32.93 don't glorify others... don't... " 00:25:32.96\00:25:35.56 and I think that's what Satan is doing today, 00:25:35.60\00:25:37.63 he's training us how to love 00:25:37.67\00:25:41.80 glorifying self and glorifying others 00:25:41.84\00:25:44.84 and the more we get into glory, 00:25:44.87\00:25:46.88 yeah, glory... you know... 00:25:46.94\00:25:48.88 what? look... the more we get into glory... 00:25:48.91\00:25:51.68 the more we are being set up to receive the one 00:25:51.71\00:25:54.48 who will counterfeit the glory of Christ 00:25:54.52\00:25:58.65 as he is described in Revelation chapter 1 verse 10 00:25:58.69\00:26:02.66 because that will be one of the most "glorious" things 00:26:02.69\00:26:06.63 that human eyes behold 00:26:06.66\00:26:08.00 and if we're not used to shunning glory, 00:26:08.03\00:26:10.87 you see, so again when the Jews... 00:26:10.90\00:26:13.17 when Christ came... they weren't... 00:26:13.20\00:26:14.97 they were like, "Where is the glory?" 00:26:15.00\00:26:16.74 Well, you know, He was like, 00:26:16.77\00:26:20.18 "Do you want to know what glory is? 00:26:20.21\00:26:21.54 The glory is in my death, burial and resurrection 00:26:21.58\00:26:24.51 and if that's not glory enough for you, 00:26:24.55\00:26:26.58 the sign of Jonah is not good enough for you, 00:26:26.61\00:26:30.09 you're not going to be given any other signs... " 00:26:30.12\00:26:31.89 a wicked generation looks for a sign 00:26:31.92\00:26:36.29 looks for glory... and guess what they're going to get, 00:26:36.32\00:26:38.63 they're going to get the sign 00:26:38.66\00:26:40.16 but it's not going to be God's sign, 00:26:40.20\00:26:42.26 that's the importance of giving glory to God. 00:26:42.30\00:26:45.83 Jason: That's crazy because 00:26:45.87\00:26:47.47 the devil has just been doing the same thing 00:26:47.50\00:26:49.10 over and over again, self-exaltation in heaven... 00:26:49.14\00:26:53.01 self-exaltation in the Garden... "You eat this fruit... 00:26:53.04\00:26:56.18 and you will be like gods knowing good from evil... " 00:26:56.21\00:27:00.05 I mean, he just repeats the same thing over and over 00:27:00.08\00:27:03.18 and maybe packages it a little bit differently... 00:27:03.22\00:27:06.25 James: Yeah, for every age... 00:27:06.29\00:27:07.62 Jason: And people buy it. 00:27:07.66\00:27:08.99 Ivor: Yeah. James: Yeah. 00:27:09.02\00:27:10.36 Why? because our fallen nature, like Ivor was saying, 00:27:10.39\00:27:12.96 we naturally tend to want to glorify self, 00:27:12.99\00:27:15.86 we naturally tend to want to do that 00:27:15.90\00:27:18.20 and Christ came to reveal the Father 00:27:18.23\00:27:20.47 it wasn't... He was putting on an act... 00:27:20.50\00:27:23.00 He was revealing what God is really like 00:27:23.04\00:27:25.47 and retrospectively, He was revealing what... 00:27:25.51\00:27:28.78 the image we were created in 00:27:28.81\00:27:30.18 how we were actually created. 00:27:30.21\00:27:31.55 Ivor: He didn't exalt Himself, He humbled Himself 00:27:31.58\00:27:34.02 and became... 00:27:34.05\00:27:35.38 "Let this mind be in you. " 00:27:35.42\00:27:37.15 James: This is the way we were created... 00:27:37.19\00:27:38.75 this is what we were created to reveal 00:27:38.79\00:27:40.66 in that sense, we're giving glory... 00:27:40.69\00:27:42.52 that is glorious... 00:27:42.56\00:27:43.89 but it's a glory that's totally different... 00:27:43.93\00:27:45.99 reversal from the way we think naturally, 00:27:46.03\00:27:47.86 our human tendency isn't that way 00:27:47.90\00:27:49.63 when you see a person you like, 00:27:49.66\00:27:51.33 "Wow! that's cool... that's glorious... " 00:27:51.37\00:27:54.20 so that's it... 00:27:54.24\00:27:56.34 we're out of time... but we're going to continue with this 00:27:56.40\00:27:58.61 in our next session together. 00:27:58.64\00:28:00.08