Revelation chapter 13,
The Mark of the Beast, 666...
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we have covered most of this
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but there are
still a couple of points
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that we need to sew up
here, one of them is in verse 16
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the forehead or the hand...
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and the other
one is... the timing.
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In other words,
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do people have the
Mark of the Beast right now,
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if not, when do they
have the Mark of the Beast?
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So I think it's really important
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that we answer
these two questions
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before we finish this
chapter and move into 14...
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by-the-way, 14 is
going to be really helpful
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in relation to chapter 13
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because it's going
to help us to understand
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what we need to do to get ready
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to not be deceived and
receive the Mark of the Beast,
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so, 14 is kind of
the answer to that.
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Ivor: 14:1 through 5.
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James: 1 through 5, yes.
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Ivor: There's a
strong connection between
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last verses in chapter 13 and
the first verses in chapter 14,
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it forms a bridge,
so, we'll see that...
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James: And it leads us
also to the everlasting gospel
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in the Three Angels' messages...
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it's going to be a
whole 'nother session
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so, exciting...
let's just pray...
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let's start with
a word of prayer,
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Yvonne, would you
like to pray for us?
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Yvonne: Sure,
"Father thank you so much
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for bringing us
together to study your Word,
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we pray for your
Holy Spirit to guide us
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and just leading us
into all truth, Lord,
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we just thank you so much for
the promise of the Holy Spirit,
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so be with us,
guide us and direct us,
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we pray in Jesus' name, amen. "
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All: "Amen. "
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So again, we're moving out,
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I just want to
give another shout-out
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for the Historicals. com
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these are models that you
can use to help illustrate...
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study, Bible Study, Evangelism,
whatever you're doing,
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you can get ahold of
Brendan at Historicals. com
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and use these... he's
got... not just these...
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we're using these
for Revelation 12:13...
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but he's also got
them for Daniel...
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and we're going to
get into Daniel, right,
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Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Daniel 8,
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and you have the
prophecies of Daniel,
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the image and
the different beasts,
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in Daniel 7 et cetera,
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all of those are
available at Historicals. com
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so, if people are
interested in doing that...
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that's how they
get ahold of them.
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I'm so thankful that
we got to use them...
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even this guy with
a head that comes off,
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removing... the head
being wounded unto death
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and then the wound being healed,
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we've got to pass
that on to Brendan
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and make sure
he... he works on that...
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and figures out how to do that
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so we can just
take the head off,
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okay, so, Revelation 14, 13...
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there's a verse we
want to look at here,
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Jason, can you read it for us?
It's Revelation 13 and verse 16.
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Jason: Verse 16, okay,
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"And he causeth all,
both small and great,
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rich and poor, free and bond,
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to receive a mark
in their right hand,
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or in their foreheads... "
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James: Now, this is
in contrast in a sense...
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this is in contrast
to the "Seal of God"
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we haven't talked
about the Seal of God yet,
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we're going to get
into that when we get into
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the Three Angels' Messages,
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but the Mark of the Beast,
in contrast with the Seal of God
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can be received in the
forehead or in the hand.
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In Revelation 7, where
the Seal of God is described
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it talks about sealing
God's people in their foreheads
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but not in the hand.
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So, what's the deal
with the Seal of God
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in the forehead or in the hand?
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Ivor: I think,
as we look at the...
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the understanding of
what the forehead represents,
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and what the hand represents,
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it will give us a better
idea of what's going on here,
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so, we... in the Bible the
forehead is actually a symbol
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for the mind,
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that's what we're
talking about here,
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the Seal of God is
received in the mind,
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in fact, in the book of Hebrews,
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when the Bible speaks
about the New Covenant,
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the New Covenant is said
to be written in the mind.
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This is where
God places His law,
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now, remember, the whole
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center... the whole
theme of this controversy
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between the dragon and the woman
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is that, he is
going after her remnant
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to make war with
those who do what?
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Keep the commandments of God
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and have the testimony of Jesus.
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James: Faith of Jesus.
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Ivor: Okay, or
the faith of Jesus
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so, what we're looking
at here is an issue of...
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it's not a...
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a lot of people think that the
Mark is something that you...
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will be tattooed
on your forehead,
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or, that they can,
like, implant in your hand,
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I've always
said, "You know what?"
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I mean, think about
it, someone holds you down
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and you you're like,
"No, let go of me... "
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they're like, "We're not
going to let go of you... "
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"Please... let me go... "
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and then they put
this chip in your hand,
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are you lost because you
are physically overpowered,
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you know what I'm saying?
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And if so, "Hey, the Bible says,
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if your right hand
offend you, cut it off... "
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"Do you know now if I
have the Mark of the Beast?"
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I know I think
these things sometimes.
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James: But no, a
lot of people think,
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I'm serious, we've
had these conversations.
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Ivor: Do you no longer
have the Mark of the Beast
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because you cut your hand off?
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You know, so... so...
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James: It's more
than that. Ivor: Yeah.
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James: The Bible
verse in Hebrews is
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Hebrews 10 and verse 16.
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Ivor: Hebrews 10:16...
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James: I'm going to...
this is what it says...
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it says, "This is the covenant
that I will make with them
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after those
days, saith the Lord,
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I will put my
laws into their hearts,
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and in their minds
will I write them... "
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so the forehead...
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that's why some
translations of the Bible say,
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"on the forehead"
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but it's
actually "in the forehead"
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the King James says,
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"in the forehead"
or "in the hand... "
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so it's talking about something
more than just the outward.
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Ivor: So the Mark of the
Beast received in the mind,
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is something that you believe
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and have genuinely...
genuinely been deceived by,
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okay, so, what about the hand?
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In the book of Ecclesiastes,
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I think, it's
chapter 9 and verse 10,
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the Bible says,
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"Whatsoever thy
hand findeth to do,
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do it with all thy might... "
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do it with all thy might...
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so the hand
symbolizes the actions,
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so, for those who
receive the Mark...
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whatever it is... in their hand,
symbolically in their hand,
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they're going
along with the action,
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but they haven't
been sold in the mind.
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James: They don't believe it.
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Ivor: They don't believe
it and so there's going to be
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two groups of people
deceived at the end of time,
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those who are truly deceived
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however, think about
this in the context of the
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Great Deception, right,
the overmastering delusion,
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those who are truly deceived,
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and then those who
receive it in their hand
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would be those who are
simply going along to survive,
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right, in fact,
they may just be like,
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"Hey, you know what?
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That may be Christ... but
I still don't believe... "
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you know what I'm
saying? I still don't... or
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"Hey, if this is what
we need to do to survive,
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then, that's what
we'll do to survive. "
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Right...
Yvonne: Ohhhh... okay...
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Ivor: There will be
others who are like,
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"Well, I know from
my Bible Study that
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that is not
Christ but guess what,
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I need to go
along with this anyway
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because I want to survive... "
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right, so, this mark between
the forehead and the hand
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covers everyone... whether
they're mentally deceived
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or they don't really believe
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or they go along
anyway to survive,
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or they genuinely know,
"Yeah, that's a deception,
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but guess what?
I'm afraid to die. "
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Wow!
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James: Let me give you a
nominal illustration of this
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because I've traveled
to Pakistan several times
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doing evangelism
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and I remember the
first time I went there
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was with fear and trepidation,
I mean, I was just like,
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"Whoa" it's an Islamic
country, Islam is law there,
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so it's an Islamic State,
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if you're a Muslim in Pakistan
and you convert to Christianity,
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the law says
that you should die...
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in fact, when I went
there, a young girl had...
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a Christian girl had witnessed
to a Muslim friend at school
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and the Muslim
had become a Christian
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and her parents... the parents
of the Muslim girl killed her
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because that's the law
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and then they were taking
the Christian girl to Court
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accusing her of
being responsible
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because they had
to kill their daughter
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because she
converted her to Christianity,
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so that was the
country I was going into
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and I remember
when I first got there,
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I was awakened in the morning
by the national alarm clock,
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yeah, they have prayer
every... "wrrrrr... rayyyy... "
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and they have these prayers...
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and they're on
these big speakers
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on the corners of the
streets and everyone can hear it
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and I was sleeping
and then... "wah... "
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I felt like someone
was standing right over me
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yelling into my
ear... it was so loud,
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so, five times a day,
they have the prayer there
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and I was really
curious to see...
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people are going to be
up praying in the morning
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and in the afternoon...
no... they didn't...
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everything didn't stop
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and everyone stops and
prays wherever... no...
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they're just...
people were in business,
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driving... doing whatever...
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and I thought, "Wow!
this is an Islamic State,
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I thought
everyone would be praying"
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and they said, "No,
only the very devout
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go to the mosque
during prayer time"
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and then Friday came out...
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Friday is the day of
prayer for the Muslim,
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the Qur'an actually teaches
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that the Sabbath day...
the seventh day of the week
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is the day that we
should worship God,
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that's what the Qur'an teaches,
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because the Qur'an
is based on the Torah...
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the first five
books of the Bible,
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and the Psalms and the gospels,
so it actually teaches that
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but, the way that they practice
and the tradition of Muslim
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is that Friday
is the day of prayer
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and that's the day
they choose to worship,
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you know, they
separate themselves
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from Jewish practice
and from Christian practice,
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so... Friday...
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so on Friday I was
waiting for everyone to
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be out of business clothes...
everyone's in the mosque...
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it was business as usual...
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it's like,
"Wow! this is strange,
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this is an Islamic Country,
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I thought they would be
very rigid about religion,
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no, most people
were kind of secular...
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they only do
what they have to do
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if they're forced to do it
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so then, Sunday came...
Sunday morning I wake up,
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I open up my
curtains and guess what I see?
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Nothing... no cars...
no business is open...
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no people...
everything is shut tight.
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I'm like, "Wait a minute,
I'm in an Islamic country,
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why is everything
closed on Sunday?"
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So I asked, "Why is
everything closed on Sunday?"
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"It's a recent law... "
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this was in the '90s,
"it's a recent law... "
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they have switched the day,
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that they close businesses
from Friday to Sunday... "
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I said, "Why?"
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They said, "Because
of the economic pressure
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everyone in the world is
open on Fridays for business,
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the Stock
Markets... everything...
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and closed on Sundays...
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we as Muslims,
we're closed on Fridays,
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and open on Sundays...
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we were falling behind
the rest of the world...
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two days a week...
businesswise so we switched"
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I said, "How do the
fundamentalists Muslims
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feel about this?" "Oh,
they don't like this at all
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they think it's a
compromise but we have to do it,
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economically, we have
to go along with it... "
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so this is a modern illustration
of... "they don't believe it...
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they're Muslims... they don't
believe Sunday is sacred or...
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but they're closed
for business on that day
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because of the economic pressure
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coming from the
rest of the world. "
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So we're
already set up for this.
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If you go on the
website and you google...
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just search for
"Muslim Countries"
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and look up, "Business Hours"
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you're going to find that
almost every Muslim country
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in the world is
closed for business on Sunday
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except for Saudi Arabia
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because they're
independently wealthy.
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So they still close on
Friday and open on Sunday
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but the rest of the Muslim
world... almost every country...
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business hours...
closed on Sundays...
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so it's already there...
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and notice, God is
really smart about this,
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it's centered in
economics... He knows...
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He sees that for most people...
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see, money is not
the root of all evil
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but what is the
root of all evil?
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The love of money
is the root of all evil
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and the final evil that is
going to overwhelm the world
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is going to come
through our love for money
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that supersedes
our love for God.
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Ivor: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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one of the things
that we wanted to touch on
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and again, with this
issue of the Mark of the Beast
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and trying to nail
it down to what it is,
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I find it very, very interesting
and I think it reveals a lot
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everything Satan does
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is a
counterfeit of what God does
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and so, it's interesting
that in the book of Revelation
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you have four things
that you're warned about
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regarding the beast,
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there is the
worship of the beast,
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there's the image of the beast,
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there's the name of the beast,
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and there's the
mark of the beast,
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so I just want you
to think about that,
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four things, okay, you
have the Ten Commandments
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the first four deal
with how we worship God
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the first commandment is,
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"Thou shalt not have
any other gods before me"
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you know, you worship God only,
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the second commandment
deals with worshiping images,
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the third
commandment is about His name,
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so, wow! if these three
things are actually counterfeits
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of the first three commandments
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then, Man! the
Mark of the Beast...
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Yvonne: Hmmm... wow!
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Jason: I never heard
it like that before...
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Yvonne: I haven't either.
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Ivor: Yeah the Mark of
the Beast must be something
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that counterfeits
the Sabbath commandment,
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so, now what we have...
and it's really amazing because
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what happens is... you look at
the book of Daniel, for example,
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first three
chapters... Daniel chapter 1,
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you have Shadrach,
Meshach and Abednego and Daniel,
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they're not... they
refuse to eat the kings meat,
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right, and drink his wine...
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so in Daniel chapter 1
you have a group of people
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who refuse to drink
the wine of Babylon,
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that's the kingdom
we're talking about, right,
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as a result of
that, in Daniel chapter 2,
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they're given
special understanding
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of prophecies regarding Babylon
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and so they preach a
message to Nebuchadnezzar,
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"Babylon is going to fall"
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that's the message
that they preach, right,
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and as a result of
this Nebuchadnezzar is like,
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"No, Babylon is
not going to fall...
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what we're going to do is,
we're going to set up an image"
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so now you have
this image set up,
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and now, whosoever does
not bow down to this image
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will be what?
Will be killed, right?
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So, in a sense, we can
look at this pattern and see,
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"Okay, so, it's
only when something is...
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when this thing is set up
that forces people... " right,
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to do it... in direct
contradiction to the law of God,
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that's when we know
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that the Mark of the Beast
is here... is passed, right,
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so it's not
something like people say,
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"Well, Pastor, you're saying
if I don't keep the Sabbath now
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or if I'm going to church
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on the wrong day of the week,
I have the Mark of the Beast?"
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No, there's coming a time...
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as we've been kind
of building to this
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that this will be
enforced by decree,
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so the verse says,
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"Whosoever does not do
this should be killed. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: And you
can't buy or sell...
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and when it comes to
that point of crisis,
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that's when the
Mark of the Beast
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becomes a test for everyone,
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not just for
believers or Christians
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but for everyone,
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it becomes a test because
it's more than just the day,
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it's the principle behind it
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and the
principle behind it reveals
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whether we have
the spirit of Satan
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or whether we have
the spirit of Christ
00:15:08.64\00:15:10.44
which takes us
into Revelation 14,
00:15:10.51\00:15:12.91
because Revelation 14
is in a sense the answer
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to our crisis in Revelation 13
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okay, let's start
with Revelation 13,
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actually go back to
Revelation chapter 12,
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Revelation 12 is not
just a picture of prophecy,
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it's a picture of character,
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now Ivor talked about
Hebrews 10:16 and 17...
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the Law of God
or the Covenant...
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new Covenant... God's law
in our hearts and in our minds,
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so, the Law of
God is a Law of love,
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it's revealing
the character of God
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so you have the character of God
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and you have the
character of Satan,
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now, from the beginning,
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Revelation chapter
12 is revealing to us
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not just history but
the characteristics of Satan
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for example, in
Revelation 12 verse 3 it says
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that he took a third of the
stars of heaven with his tail
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pause...
00:16:01.22\00:16:04.23
excuse me, that's verse 4,
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"And his tail drew the third
part of the stars of heaven,
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and did cast them
to the ground... "
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in Isaiah 9:15 it
says, "the tail...
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the prophet that
teaches lies, he is the tail. "
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So the tail of the
dragon symbolizes the deception
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that he brought
against the stars of heaven
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which were the angels of heaven,
00:16:20.38\00:16:21.71
and the way he deceived them
and cast them down with him,
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he brought them down
with him through deception
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so, do we deceive people?
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Are we being deceptive?
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And then you have in Revelation
chapter 12 and verse 10,
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you have this picture of
how the accuser of our brethren
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which accused them before
God day and night, is cast out.
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Are we judgmental
and full of accusations?
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Is this the kind of
character that we have
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and then you have in
Revelation chapter 12 verse 17,
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you have this
picture of the dragon
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who was wroth with the woman,
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went to make war with
the remnant of her seed,
00:16:54.38\00:16:56.48
he's angry, he's
mad, he wants to fight,
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so, are we developing
the characteristics of anger
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and are we wanting to
fight in a negative sense
00:17:02.58\00:17:06.19
and then in
Revelation chapter 13,
00:17:06.22\00:17:08.52
he's filled with blasphemy
which is basically a pride
00:17:08.59\00:17:12.89
and he is
controlling the economic system,
00:17:12.93\00:17:16.90
he's a control freak,
so no man can buy or sell
00:17:16.97\00:17:20.30
and so he's forcing people
00:17:20.34\00:17:22.47
to go the way he
wants them to go,
00:17:22.50\00:17:24.44
so are we controllers?
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Are we forcing people?
Are we angry with people?
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Are we filled with pride?
00:17:29.81\00:17:31.15
Are we judgmental
and critical of people?
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Are we deceiving people and
do we want to just kill people
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which... another
word for kill is hate.
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Ivor: Yeah, and Revelation 13:4
the beast has a deadly wound
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but the deadly wound is healed,
00:17:44.16\00:17:46.06
remember we talked
about how it did not die,
00:17:46.09\00:17:49.46
right, it was
wounded by the sword...
00:17:49.50\00:17:52.80
it was wounded by
the sword so, do we...
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James: Sword is the Word of God.
00:17:56.17\00:17:57.84
Ivor: That's right,
00:17:57.87\00:17:59.24
do we allow the Word of
God to put us to death...
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we die daily... or are we
only wounded by the sword?
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Or do we only... we go to
church and the Pastor preaches
00:18:05.31\00:18:08.15
we're like... "Owh... oooh...
ooh... that hurt, that hurt... "
00:18:08.18\00:18:11.45
but we don't allow it
to actually take us out.
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So we only get hurt... and
Satan is all about healing.
00:18:14.92\00:18:18.89
So, "Man! you're
hurt, let me heal you up...
00:18:18.93\00:18:21.53
get you back to
your old self again... "
00:18:21.56\00:18:24.17
All: Hmmm... hmmm...
ah... ha... ha... ha...
00:18:24.20\00:18:26.23
yeah... you don't
want to be your old self,
00:18:26.27\00:18:28.24
you know, you need to
be a new man in Christ, so,
00:18:28.27\00:18:30.97
these characteristics, right,
00:18:31.01\00:18:34.14
lead us to the ultimate picture
of... "these are the ones,
00:18:34.18\00:18:39.15
who will end up following...
00:18:39.18\00:18:41.02
these are the ones that end up
'wondering after the beast. '"
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Why? Because like attracts like
00:18:44.72\00:18:47.89
even in Revelation 13 verse 11
00:18:47.92\00:18:51.06
where it talks about the
beast having the horns of a lamb
00:18:51.09\00:18:54.43
but speaking as a dragon,
00:18:54.46\00:18:55.80
Man! when people look
at you, do they see a lamb?
00:18:55.83\00:18:58.97
And then they try to talk to you
and you're acting like a dragon.
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These are the very ones, right,
00:19:02.90\00:19:05.41
that when this
manifestation appears,
00:19:05.44\00:19:09.04
oh yeah, they're going to wonder
00:19:09.08\00:19:11.75
because the characters connect.
00:19:11.78\00:19:14.35
James: Ivor, I think
this is really important
00:19:14.38\00:19:16.52
because we're
talking here about prophecy
00:19:16.58\00:19:18.42
and a lot of times, we
can get caught up in prophecy
00:19:18.45\00:19:21.59
from the perspective of,
"Oh, that power over there
00:19:21.62\00:19:24.46
and that power over there
00:19:24.49\00:19:25.83
and that person over there
00:19:25.86\00:19:27.20
and that person over there...
00:19:27.23\00:19:28.56
we miss the personal,
practical application.
00:19:28.60\00:19:31.00
The beast is a composite of us,
00:19:31.03\00:19:34.70
the reason why it becomes
an earthly kingdom is because
00:19:34.74\00:19:38.67
it has subjects, it
has people that support it
00:19:38.71\00:19:41.14
and the people that are
supporting that beastly System
00:19:41.18\00:19:43.85
are people who
are like that System,
00:19:43.88\00:19:45.51
who are taking on the
characteristics of that System,
00:19:45.55\00:19:48.62
who are
revealing anger and control
00:19:48.65\00:19:51.65
and all of the characteristics
that we're seeing here
00:19:51.69\00:19:54.66
that are outlined in
describing the dragon...
00:19:54.72\00:19:59.79
in describing the beast
powers and in counter to that...
00:19:59.83\00:20:02.36
in contrast to that... we
have these characteristics
00:20:02.40\00:20:04.87
that describe God's
people in Revelation 14.
00:20:04.93\00:20:06.80
Ivor: Wait... before
you go to Revelation 14,
00:20:06.84\00:20:10.31
wait... so... remember
in Revelation 13, right...
00:20:10.34\00:20:13.48
James: Yes.
00:20:13.51\00:20:14.84
Ivor: We have this manifestation
that we've been talking about
00:20:14.88\00:20:17.95
Satan appearing
as Christ Himself,
00:20:18.01\00:20:20.88
this sets us up for the
first verse in Revelation 14,
00:20:20.92\00:20:24.15
so let's just look at a
couple of verses very quickly
00:20:24.19\00:20:27.36
let's go over to
Isaiah chapter 4 verse 5 and 6
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and if someone else can
go to Isaiah 33 verse 20.
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Pause...
00:20:34.76\00:20:36.90
I'm going to go to
Psalm 48 verse 1 and 2,
00:20:36.93\00:20:42.10
so, Isaiah 4 verse 5 and 6...
00:20:42.14\00:20:46.94
Isaiah 33 verse 20...
00:20:46.98\00:20:51.61
and James, could you
get Psalm 48 verse 1 and 2?
00:20:51.68\00:20:54.92
okay so, let's go with
Psalm 48 verse 1 and 2 first.
00:20:54.98\00:21:00.92
James: Okay,
Psalm 48 verses 1 and 2,
00:21:00.96\00:21:03.69
pause...
00:21:03.73\00:21:07.83
"Great is the LORD,
and greatly to be praised
00:21:07.86\00:21:10.57
in the city of our God, in
the mountain of his holiness.
00:21:10.63\00:21:13.17
Beautiful for situation,
the joy of the whole earth,
00:21:13.20\00:21:15.70
is mount Zion, on
the sides of the north,
00:21:15.77\00:21:17.71
the city of the great King. "
00:21:17.74\00:21:19.07
Ivor: Okay, when
Satan comes again, right,
00:21:19.11\00:21:21.18
guess what he's
going to try to fulfill?
00:21:21.21\00:21:22.98
James: Sides of the
north... Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:21:23.01\00:21:24.38
Ivor: Sides of the north,
00:21:24.41\00:21:25.98
"Hey, I am the
king, this is Mount Zion,
00:21:26.01\00:21:28.78
and beautiful for situation,
00:21:28.82\00:21:31.09
here we are on the
sides of the north. "
00:21:31.12\00:21:34.06
James: And by-the-way,
the Muslim world believes
00:21:34.09\00:21:36.52
that when Christ
comes the second time,
00:21:36.56\00:21:37.89
He'll come to Jerusalem
in the North Gate of the city
00:21:37.93\00:21:40.70
which they have
blocked with a graveyard
00:21:40.73\00:21:42.46
and so they're
looking for that to happen.
00:21:42.50\00:21:43.83
Ivor: And most of
the world believes
00:21:43.87\00:21:45.20
He's coming to Jerusalem right,
00:21:45.23\00:21:46.57
so here we have,
okay, wow! this is Biblical
00:21:46.60\00:21:49.47
but Satan is
going to try to use this
00:21:49.50\00:21:51.67
to relate to himself, right,
00:21:51.71\00:21:53.27
all right, now,
Isaiah 4:5 and 6.
00:21:53.31\00:21:55.58
Yvonne: "Then
the LORD will create
00:21:55.61\00:21:57.81
above every
dwelling place of mount Zion
00:21:57.85\00:22:00.25
and above her assemblies,
a cloud and smoke by day,
00:22:00.32\00:22:03.85
and the shining of a
flaming fire by night:
00:22:03.89\00:22:06.39
for over all the glory
there will be a covering.
00:22:06.42\00:22:09.52
And there will be a tabernacle
for a shade in the daytime
00:22:09.56\00:22:12.93
from the heat,
for a place of refuge
00:22:12.96\00:22:15.50
and for a shelter
from storm and rain. "
00:22:15.53\00:22:17.70
Ivor: Okay, so, the
Bible tells that God
00:22:17.73\00:22:19.90
is going to set
up His tabernacle...
00:22:19.93\00:22:22.04
right, where? On Mount Zion...
00:22:22.07\00:22:25.27
where is that? On
the sides of the north.
00:22:25.31\00:22:27.68
All right, so,
what do we have here?
00:22:27.71\00:22:29.74
When Jesus
comes, the view is that,
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He's going to set
up a kingdom on earth,
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Mount Zion... He's
going to set His tabernacles
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right, upon Mount Zion.
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Now, Isaiah 33
verse 20, who has it?
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Jason: I got
it, "Look upon Zion,
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the city of our solemnities:
thine eyes shall see Jerusalem
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a quiet habitation,
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a tabernacle that
shall not be taken down;
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not one of the stakes
thereof shall ever be removed,
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neither shall any of the
cords thereof be broken. "
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Ivor: All right, now,
let me read one more verse
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and then we're going
to tie this all in, okay,
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so this is
Ezekiel 37 verse 26 to 28
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and it says here,
"Moreover I will make a covenant
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of peace with them;
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it shall be an
everlasting covenant with them:
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and I will place
them, and multiply them,
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and will set my sanctuary in
the midst of them for evermore.
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My tabernacle also
shall be with them:
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yea, I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
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And the heathen shall know that
I the LORD do sanctify Israel,
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when my sanctuary shall be in
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the midst of
them for evermore. "
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What we have happening here
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is in Revelation
13 verses 13 onward,
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you basically have Satan
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claiming to be
the king of the North
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or setting up his
tabernacles, right,
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as king over all the earth
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and he's got his
subjects and his people.
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In Revelation 14,
verse 1, God is showing us,
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"This is who the
true Mount Zion is... "
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and then He goes to
describe their... what?
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their character...
so from Revelation 12
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you're seeing all the attributes
of the characteristics
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that lead up to this
counterfeit Mount of Zion.
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James: On this
earth. Yvonne: Ooooh!
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Ivor: And then God
says, "All right now John,
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now I want you to
check out the real Mount Zion
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and I want you to
look at the characteristics
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of the real people of God. "
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Ivor: And it starts
with them having His name...
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which represents what?
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Character written
in their foreheads.
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James: Yeah. Yvonne: Wow!
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James: That's beautiful,
that's a powerful picture,
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so you've got
Satan's counterfeit
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and you've got
the true right here
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and also in this context
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you've got an answer
for a dilemma that we have
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and that is, "How do we discern
the true from the counterfeit
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and what do we do to
get ready for all of this?"
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Because you know, you can think,
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"Well, the way I get ready is,
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I know what's the right day
and I know what's the wrong day
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and that's intellectually fine
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but what about
character development?
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Like, how can we
prepare ourselves
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so one of the answers is
given and I love this answer,
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in Revelation chapter 14
when God shows John and us
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the real picture of
the true Mount Zion,
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He says, that not
only do they have His name
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written in their forehead
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but how do they get His
name written in their forehead?
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Well notice verse 4,
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"These are they which
were not defiled with women:
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for they are virgins,
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These are they which follow the
Lamb withersoever he goeth. "
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They follow Jesus,
remember the words of that hymn,
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"Anywhere with
Jesus I can safely go. "
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Anywhere? Jason: Anywhere...
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James: Fear I cannot know
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and this is why I
think the book of Revelation
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is so filled
with "Lamb language. "
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It begins in the beginning
and it goes all the way through.
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Jesus is the One
that brings us safety
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in the midst of
our greatest crisis,
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there's a great crisis coming...
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a huge deception
coming to Planet Earth
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and the way we prepare for that
is to stay very close to Jesus.
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Ivor: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: This is what allows
us to be dependent on Christ,
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the crisis can be looked
upon as a negative or a positive
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a crisis in our lives today
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can direct us for
more dependence on Jesus...
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to lean more
heavily on our Savior
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or it can pull us away from Him,
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those little crises
prepare us for the big crisis
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and the answer in the
big crisis is automatic,
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it's right here
in Revelation 14,
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"Follow Jesus wherever He goes,
just follow Him wherever He goes
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you know how you have
been following Him sometimes?
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You know, how you look like Him
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but you're not really connected,
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you know how once
a week you follow Him
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but the rest of
the week you don't,
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well, that's not going
to work when the crisis...
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when the final crisis hits.
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You're going to need
complete and total commitment
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to Jesus Christ... surrender...
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you got to die all the way,
you can't just be wounded. "
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Ivor: This is the
picture of the true Mount Zion.
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The true Mount Zion
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is made up of those
who follow the Lamb.
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All those characters
that we're looking at
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from Revelation 12 onward,
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that's a false
Christ that's coming
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so depending on which
characteristics you have,
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those will determine which
"Jesus" you end up following
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the counterfeit
one or the true One.
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James: Hmmm... and
that's why you have this...
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this also being described as...
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it says in verse 4,
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"These are they which
are not defiled with women. "
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Ivor: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Here it's not
talking about literal...
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it's not talking about
people that aren't married,
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it's talking about
"women" as in "churches. "
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Ivor: Right.
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James: Not defiled with other
church doctrines, basically,
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they're not defiled...
they're first fruits...
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James in chapter 1 says,
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the first fruit is
someone who's born again.
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They have the
genuine born-again experience
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first fruits... they
depend totally on Jesus Christ
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and that is what
God is calling us to...
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to be able to
prepare for this crisis.
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Total... total
surrender to Jesus...
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total dependence on
Christ, that's what we need.
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"Amen. "
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