We are in the
book of Revelation...
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Revelation
chapter 12 specifically
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and we left off... kind of
in the middle of the chapter
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we want to get back into that
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but before we do,
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we have been asking people
to send in their questions
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Program after
Program... time after time...
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we've been telling people,
"Hey, we got this number...
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we've got this e-mail...
you can send your questions here
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but you know
what we haven't done?
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Taken questions...
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We haven't taken any questions,
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we haven't
answered any questions,
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people are writing
all these questions
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and they're piling
up and we're not...
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We're in Revelation chapter
12 so it's a transition point
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right, so after studying
the first eleven chapters,
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people are getting
their questions ready
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chapter 12 onward... we
start answering questions.
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Sounds good.
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That's a great explanation Ivor,
way to pull us out of that.
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All right... so we have a few
questions we're going to address
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as we get
started in this program
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but let's begin
with a word of prayer.
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Yvonne, would you
like to pray for us?
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Sure, "Father,
we're so grateful to you
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for the privilege
of studying your Word
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and we thank you that
you've given us this manual
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where we can know just
what's going to come...
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as Danny says,
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"We've read the
back of the book... "
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and we know Lord that
we win because of you...
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because you won...
because you are the victor...
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so we just thank
you for being victorious
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and for giving
us victory as well,
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we just pray right now that
your Spirit will be with us,
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guide us and direct us Lord
and help us to learn and apply
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the information
that we're studying,
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in Jesus' name, amen. "
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"Amen... "
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I really like that...
that phrase... "the manual"
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God hasn't really
left us without a manual
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and the reason I
like that so much
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is because I just
bought a vehicle that is...
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well, it has a lot of miles
on it so it has a lot of issues
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I got a really
good deal on that,
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that's what I
like... to be totally honest
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it's a Toyota... but
it doesn't have a manual,
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and I really need a manual
because I'm troubleshooting,
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I'm trying to take
things apart and fix things
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and there's no manual
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but we have a manual...
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God has not left
us without a manual
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and the manual is the Bible
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and it tells us
how we are created
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and it gives us the big
picture of what God's purpose is
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and shows us the
details as to how we function
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and it helps us
to troubleshoot...
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it helps us to troubleshoot...
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We need that...
we need that manual.
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All right, I've
got a question here...
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to start us out... it's in
relation to Revelation chapter 8
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the chapter that
we've covered already,
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and the question here
comes from Ray Tucker...
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and Raymond Tucker and he says,
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"Blessings, Saints of God,
I was watching the broadcast
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and I heard that the
golden altar in Revelation 8:3
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was the altar of burnt offering
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which was from
the sacrifice of Jesus
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and brought into the Holy Place
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as I understand it,
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the altar of burnt
offering was of brass...
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but both altars of incense
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and the ark of
the covenant were gold
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therefore, as the
passage continues in verse 4
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with the smoke of the incense,
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it shows that it might
be the altar of incense...
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see also Revelation 6
under the fifth seal...
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God bless... I'm
enjoying the study. "
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Good question, Raymond.
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So let's just go to the verse,
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maybe Jason, you
could read it for us,
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Revelation
chapter 8 and verse 3.
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Okay, "And another angel
came and stood at the altar,
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having a golden censer;
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and there was given
unto him much incense,
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that he should offer it
with the prayers of all saints
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upon the golden altar
which was before the throne. "
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Okay now, here's the important
transition in this verse,
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this verse is talking about
two altars... not one altar...
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so the first
altar that's mentioned
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is not described
as a golden altar.
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The second altar is described
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as the golden
altar before the throne.
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So, Raymond was
saying here that...
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"I heard that the golden altar
in Revelation 8 was the altar"
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excuse me... that the altar...
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"the golden
altar in Revelation 8:3
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was the altar of
burnt offering. "
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Well, actually, the
golden altar in Revelation 8:3
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is not the altar
of burnt offering,
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the golden altar
before the throne
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is the golden altar of
incense before the throne
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but the first altar is
the altar of burnt offering
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and a lot of people miss this.
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They think, "Oh, the altar...
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that the angel
is standing next to
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is the same as the
golden altar... it isn't...
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there's a
transition taking place here,
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what God is showing us
here is that Christ is taking
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the offering that He made on...
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the sacrifice that He made...
on the altar in the Courtyard
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which represents
Calvary and the Cross...
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He's taking that sacrifice
into the Heavenly Sanctuary...
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He's taking it into
the Heavenly Sanctuary
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and when Christ
ascended to heaven
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and He brought with Him
the merits of His sacrifice,
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He went into the Holy Place,
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He went into the
first compartment
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of the Heavenly Sanctuary...
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there's a Sanctuary in heaven,
Hebrews 8 tells us very clearly
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and there are two
compartments there
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Hebrews 8 and Hebrews 9
tell us that very clearly
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and when Christ went to heaven,
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He... according
to Revelation 8:3,
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He went into the compartment
that has the golden altar
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that is before the throne
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and that
compartment is the Holy Place.
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Just to build
on that in verse 5,
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it says that...
continues to say,
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"The angel took the censer,
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and filled it
with fire of the altar,
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and cast it to the earth... "
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it again mentions the altar,
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right, not the
golden altar... the altar
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so if we were to take this and
go back to the book of Leviticus
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let's go into the book
of Leviticus chapter 16
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and we will
see... in Leviticus 16...
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that it was the
altar of sacrifice
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which the priest would take
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the coals of fire
to light the incense
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so Leviticus 16,
verse 12, it says,
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"he shall take a censer... "
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right... so there
goes the censer...
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"full of burning coals of fire
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from off the altar
before the LORD... "
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Yeah, and that's the same
sentence in Revelation 8, okay.
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Absolutely, so the
altar here is the...
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is the altar in the Outer Court
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which represents
Christ's sacrifice.
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It is this... let's
look at it this way...
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everything in
heaven... our whole...
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the whole Plan of Salvation
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was based upon the
fire from that altar.
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So Christ's sacrifice...
allows the Plan of Salvation...
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it is His sacrifice that
allows the fire from heaven...
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The Holy Spirit...
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That's right... the
Holy Spirit to fall.
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Yeah, He said,
"I'm going to heaven...
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and if I'm going... I'm
going to send the Holy Spirit. "
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That's right...
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So the angel takes that fire
from the sacrifice of Christ
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lights the altar of
incense... in the censer
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lights the altar
of incense in heaven
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sends that fire down as
the Holy Spirit upon us.
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Hmmm...
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So... two different altars...
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Amen... Wow...
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Good stuff... Hmmm... hmmm...
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All right...
another question here...
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"Who is Michael in
Revelation 12:7 and 8...
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who is Michael in
Revelation 12:7 and 8?"
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Okay, let's go with...
Revelation 12:7 and 8...
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let's go back to
the Old Testament...
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in fact, why don't you read
Revelation 12 verses 7 and 8
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first... and then we'll
go into the book of Daniel.
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Yvonne, would you
like to read those for us?
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Sure... "And war
broke out in heaven:
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Michael and his angels
fought with the dragon;
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and the dragon and
his angels fought...
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but they did not prevail,
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nor was there a place found
for them in heaven any longer. "
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Okay, so, the Bible speaks
about Michael and His angels
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yeah, Michael and His angels...
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you have the
dragon and his angels,
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both representing
opposite sides, okay,
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so whoever this
"Michael" is... He has angels...
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Hmmm... hmmm...
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He has angels...
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So, we go back
to the Old Testament
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to get a good idea
of who this Michael is
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because that's where
He's first mentioned.
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Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1
and this really is very simple,
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in fact... most of the
Protestant Reformers agreed
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with the
position of who Michael is
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based upon a
study of the Scripture
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but in Daniel 12 verse
1, the Bible says there,
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"And at that time
shall Michael stand up,
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the great... " what?
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"prince... " so He's the...
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He's not... "a prince"
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He's "the great prince"
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Hmmm...
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All right, so,
who's the great prince?
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Well, just hold
your thought there
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and let's go over
to the book of Daniel
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chapter 9...
we're in Daniel 12...
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now let's just jump
back a couple of chapters...
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I'm going to go to
Daniel chapter 9 and...
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Daniel chapter 9 is
the 70-week prophecy...
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and in that prophecy it speaks
of the coming of the Messiah
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and I want you notice
what the Messiah is called...
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Hmmm...
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Daniel 9 verse 25... you
want to read that Yvonne?
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Sure... "Know
therefore and understand,
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that from the going
forth of the command
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to restore and build Jerusalem
until Messiah the Prince... "
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Okay, so...
"Messiah the Prince... "
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so the Bible just told us,
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"Okay, Michael is
the great Prince... "
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Daniel 9...
"Messiah the Prince... "
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"the great Prince... "
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Michael and the
Messiah are one and the same...
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so the word "Michael"
means the One who is as God,
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that's what the name means...
"the One who is as God... "
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now, some people object
and say, "No, no, no, no, no...
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that's all wrong
because Michael is an angel... "
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and we know that
angels are created... okay...
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but an angel is not
necessarily a created being...
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the word "angel"
simply means "messenger"
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so, Michael is the
highest messenger...
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that's why He's
called "the archangel"
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the highest of all messengers...
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Hmmm...
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Let me share with you
just two more verses on this
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and then we can get
into the Program, but...
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I got a couple of thoughts too.
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Okay, well then let's just
look at 1st Thessalonians...
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no, no, no, let's
stay in the Old Testament
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let's look at
Malachi chapter 3 verse 1,
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Malachi 3 verse 1...
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and this is speaking
to the issue of the angel.
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Was Christ an angel or not?
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Malachi 3 verse 1...
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the Bible says,
"Behold, I will send my" what?
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"messenger... "
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and the word there
is actually "angel"
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that's what the word "messenger"
is in the Hebrew... "angel"
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"and he shall
prepare the way before me:
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and the LORD, whom you seek,
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shall suddenly
come to his temple,
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even the
messenger... " what's the word?
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same word for angel... right...
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so "the angel of the covenant"
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who is that speaking about?
Speaking about Jesus... right?
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He is the
messenger of the covenant...
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so the angel in this context
does not mean a created being
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it simply means, "messenger"
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and so, Michael is
the highest messenger,
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He is the "arch... "
the highest of all...
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He is the Messiah the Prince...
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in 1st Thessalonians chapter
4 we read that Michael...
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that when Jesus comes again...
He descends with a shout...
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with the voice
of the archangel...
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so we have two options...
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either when Jesus
descends... He's like,
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"Hey Michael, let me borrow
your voice for a minute...
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so I could... " or...
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the voice of the
archangel is His own voice.
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Hmmm...
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And it is that voice... yeah...
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He says, "My voice... "
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John 5... "they shall hear
the voice of the Son of God"
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right... and the dead shall rise
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so when we go back to
Daniel 12 the time of...
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there will be a time of
trouble, Michael shall stand up
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and they shall be delivered...
everyone that is found...
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written the Book...
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many of them that sleep
in the dust of the earth...
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it all brings us back
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to the fact that
Michael is another name...
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was the
pre-incarnate name for Jesus,
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before He came to this earth.
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So, can we assume
that He manifested Himself
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in a different
form as Michael...
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was He... did He...
you know what I'm asking?
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Well, here's a point maybe
that could help clarify that
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and that is... we
know that Christ is divine
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John chapter 1 tells us,
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"the Word was with
God, and the Word was God"
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in the beginning
He was with God...
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and then He became flesh...
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Christ becoming a man
does not make Him less divine
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so God can become anything
He wants to and still be God.
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He can come... the Holy Spirit
can come in the form of a dove,
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God can appear in the
form of a burning bush...
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Jesus can some as a man
or an angel or a messenger...
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it doesn't mean He's not God,
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and I think this
is really important...
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another
important point here is...
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is that... the archangel...
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that word in the Greek actually
means, "the chief of the angels"
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the Commander-in-Chief
of the United States Army
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is the President...
he's not an enlisted man...
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he's the Commander-in-Chief
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and it's interesting that
if you go through the Bible
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you will never find a place
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where anyone else is ever called
an "archangel" but Michael
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no one else is called
an archangel... nobody...
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not Gabriel... not anyone
else is called the archangel
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only Michael is the
Chief of the angels...
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because He's the only One
who's the Chief of the angels...
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He's in-charge of
them... they're His angels...
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now if they're His angels...
what does that tell you?
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That He's an
angel? No... not at all...
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so, when you look
at all the evidence,
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we don't have to be scared
to allow Christ to be a man
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or to be Michael...
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any more than God
coming in the form of a dove
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or a burning bush...
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because it doesn't diminish
the divinity of who Christ is.
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Christ is divine...
Christ is God... yeah...
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Okay, we've got...
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We need to get into the Program.
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Yeah we do need to get into
it but there was one more...
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there was one more
question I was thinking about
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in relation to... what was it?
00:14:13.35\00:14:16.35
The Program... someone has asked
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why our Programs
are only half an hour.
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That's it... I'm
going to touch on it.
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That's one of the things that's
so special about this Program
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this Vera Marie wrote,
"Your Bible Study is awesome
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but very complex
and so intricate,
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I believe 30 minutes
are surely too short...
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it would pay off to
take a good hour to discuss,
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extrapolate and dig
into such complex topics...
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and give us a simplistic mind
the ability to absorb, digest
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and fully process
this precious information.
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Please consider a full hour
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and would you have
all the Programs recorded
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available for purchase?"
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We do have all the
Programs available for purchase
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and all they have to
do is call 618-627-4651
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wait until they hear Ms.
Mollie's precious voice...
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and press number 2 and that will
take them to the Call Center
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which is open
Monday through Thursday
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7:30 a. m. to 5:30
p. m. Central time.
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Good answer...
That's a lot of information.
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It was but... taken
in bite-size pieces.
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Yeah, bite-size pieces...
that's why we do half an hour.
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Let us mention that when we
first decided to do the Program
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and James and I were speaking
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the first time we came, we said,
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"We should be able to get
to maybe Revelation chapter...
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I don't know... maybe
half-way through the book,
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on our first visit...
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and after our first visit,
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I think we had
stopped at Revelation...
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at the end of
Revelation chapter 2...
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or just beginning chapter 3,
00:15:52.48\00:15:54.22
and I was like, 13 Programs...
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we're like, "Okay,
this is going to be
00:15:55.65\00:15:57.49
much longer than we
thought so, bite-size...
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so you can digest it
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and we're just taking our
time going through the book.
00:16:03.19\00:16:05.49
By-the-way, a lot of
people that call the office
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when these Programs go on
00:16:08.00\00:16:09.46
comment on
that... and they love it.
00:16:09.50\00:16:11.10
They love the fact
that we're going slow,
00:16:11.13\00:16:13.00
they love the fact
that this is bite-size
00:16:13.03\00:16:14.40
and they love the
fact that we're doing
00:16:14.44\00:16:15.80
a detailed study in Revelation
00:16:15.84\00:16:17.17
they're just not
finding that in a lot of places,
00:16:17.21\00:16:19.47
so they're
really appreciating that
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and what I want to say
also to this question is,
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if you want an
hour, do get the DVDs
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because you can
sit through half hour
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and then another
half hour and another...
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another half... you can
go through hours of them
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one after another
00:16:33.12\00:16:34.46
so they are being
aired every day...
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On Dare to Dream every day
at 6:30 p. m. Central time.
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Yes.
00:16:40.70\00:16:42.03
So, if people want
to see it every day,
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they can watch
it on Dare to Dream,
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if you want to see it...
I think on Parent Network
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it's on... twice a week...
once on Sabbath afternoon
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or evening... and
just check the schedule for
00:16:52.74\00:16:56.51
on the Parent Network...
but we are on everyday
00:16:56.54\00:17:00.22
so... depending on...
you know, if people want more
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they can get more or
they can purchase the DVDs.
00:17:03.79\00:17:07.22
Not to mention but... like...
we want to learn this stuff too
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so we need 30 minutes...
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if we do an hour and all
this stuff is coming our way...
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Overload... overload.
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Hmmm... hmmm...
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So Ivor, you mentioned
the dragon and his angels...
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and we have this model
that has been loaned to us.
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Yeah we have the
dragon on all Programs.
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Yeah, that's good.
00:17:29.24\00:17:30.58
Here it is...
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This is one of
a number of models
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that we're going to
be using from Australia
00:17:34.58\00:17:36.12
and we're going to
give in the Credits...
00:17:36.15\00:17:37.62
we're going to give the
information for our Viewers
00:17:37.65\00:17:39.02
they can get ahold of these,
00:17:39.05\00:17:40.39
they can use them in
classroom illustrations
00:17:40.42\00:17:42.99
they can use them in
Evangelism Bible Studies,
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these are great illustrations,
00:17:45.86\00:17:47.70
you can see here that
this dragon has seven heads
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and there are ten horns there
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and then in the
tail there you see...
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what it is basically is...
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is a picture of the
universe with all the stars
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and the point here is...
00:17:58.94\00:18:00.41
he deceived the third
part of the stars of heaven...
00:18:00.44\00:18:03.45
it's like heaven
with all the stars
00:18:03.51\00:18:05.41
so this is illustrating
Revelation chapter 12's dragon.
00:18:05.45\00:18:08.78
The seven heads
connect to Daniel chapter 7
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where you have the
succession of kingdoms
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with a total of seven heads,
00:18:14.72\00:18:16.06
you have: Babylon, Medo-Persia,
Greece which had four heads
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and Rome... seven altogether
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and then the ten horns
in Daniel chapter 7 again
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with crowns...
that are monarchies...
00:18:26.13\00:18:27.64
so this is illustrating that
00:18:27.67\00:18:29.64
in Revelation 12 you have a
continuum of the book of Daniel
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with these nations
coming to pagan Rome
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which is typified by the dragon
00:18:35.54\00:18:38.05
the dragon is, of course, Satan
00:18:38.11\00:18:40.55
where he's working
through these earthly kingdoms
00:18:40.58\00:18:42.55
and he's seeking to up-end and
to distort and misrepresent God
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and God's kingdom and
God's Plan of Salvation
00:18:47.72\00:18:50.33
through these
various earthly kingdoms
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so one of the things that
we're going to see in Revelation
00:18:52.56\00:18:55.76
is the symbolism, you
know there's heavy symbolism
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but if you
break down the symbols
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it's really easy to understand
what's taking place here
00:19:01.24\00:19:03.84
so God uses these
symbols because...
00:19:03.87\00:19:05.67
you know, it's
interesting isn't it?
00:19:05.74\00:19:07.48
You look at this
right here and you think,
00:19:07.51\00:19:08.98
"Whoa, that's the kind of stuff
that a lot of kids are into...
00:19:09.01\00:19:12.11
all these different figures
and action figures or whatever
00:19:12.15\00:19:15.08
and it's all over the place now,
00:19:15.12\00:19:16.45
we've got dragons and
dinosaurs and whatever... "
00:19:16.48\00:19:18.22
so God actually was
way ahead of the game.
00:19:18.25\00:19:21.26
He foresaw the
interest... the intrigue...
00:19:21.29\00:19:24.26
the curiosity that we would have
toward these kinds of images
00:19:24.29\00:19:27.33
and so He uses
them in Bible Prophecy
00:19:27.36\00:19:30.07
to get our
attention and to introduce us
00:19:30.10\00:19:32.47
to the powerful truths
of history, and prophecy...
00:19:32.53\00:19:37.14
that bring us the
Plan of Salvation.
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Hmmm... hmmm...
00:19:38.67\00:19:40.01
These visual aids are definitely
helpful because you can see it.
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Yes... yeah...
00:19:44.05\00:19:45.41
good way to get it going
especially for young people,
00:19:45.45\00:19:48.62
we're going to get a couple more
as we go through these Programs
00:19:48.65\00:19:50.52
but right now
we're in Revelation 12...
00:19:50.59\00:19:51.92
so this one parallels
Revelation chapter 12,
00:19:51.95\00:19:54.29
the dragon that we've
been taking about here
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I think we left off in about
verse 12 of Revelation 12...
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is that correct?
00:20:01.60\00:20:03.37
Let's just pick up
there... Revelation chapter 12
00:20:03.40\00:20:05.73
and verse 12... Jason,
can you read that for us
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and we'll go from there.
00:20:08.57\00:20:09.90
"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens,
00:20:09.94\00:20:12.01
and ye that dwell in them.
00:20:12.04\00:20:13.41
Woe to the inhabiters of
the earth and of the sea!
00:20:13.48\00:20:16.44
for the devil is come down
unto you, having great wrath,
00:20:16.48\00:20:19.35
because he knoweth that
he hath but a short time. "
00:20:19.38\00:20:21.78
Okay now, this is the conclusion
00:20:21.85\00:20:24.85
of this picture that we've seen
here of the cross of Calvary
00:20:24.89\00:20:28.89
and basically
what's happened here
00:20:28.92\00:20:30.73
is that we have been redeemed
00:20:30.76\00:20:32.36
by the deception of
Satan by the cross...
00:20:32.39\00:20:35.36
the cross has revealed
00:20:35.40\00:20:36.87
the self-sacrificing
other-centered love of God.
00:20:36.90\00:20:40.04
The unselfish love
of God has been revealed
00:20:40.07\00:20:42.50
to the whole entire world.
00:20:42.57\00:20:44.04
Christ coming as a
man-God in human flesh coming...
00:20:44.07\00:20:47.24
and giving
Himself as a sacrifice...
00:20:47.28\00:20:48.84
not just for our sins
00:20:48.88\00:20:50.21
but also for the
sins of the entire world
00:20:50.25\00:20:52.65
redeeming this planet
from the deception of Satan
00:20:52.68\00:20:56.62
and so,
salvation has finally come
00:20:56.65\00:20:59.65
and the heavens are rejoicing
00:20:59.72\00:21:01.06
because there
have been questions...
00:21:01.09\00:21:03.12
the deception of a third
part of the stars of heaven here
00:21:03.16\00:21:06.33
illustrated in the tail
00:21:06.39\00:21:07.73
there have been questions
even in the heavenly universe
00:21:07.76\00:21:10.17
about God's character
and they've been answered.
00:21:10.20\00:21:12.03
God is a God of love
00:21:12.10\00:21:15.57
and these questions have
been answered in the heavens
00:21:15.60\00:21:17.97
but what of the
inhabitants of the earth?
00:21:18.01\00:21:20.28
What's going on there?
00:21:20.31\00:21:21.94
The devil has come
unto you with great power
00:21:21.98\00:21:24.38
because he knows
his time is short
00:21:24.41\00:21:26.95
so what is taking place
here as we move into these...
00:21:26.98\00:21:29.98
these verses following?
00:21:30.02\00:21:31.49
That's what we want to unfold.
00:21:31.52\00:21:33.66
I also want to just ask you guys
to really focus on that term...
00:21:33.69\00:21:40.93
"short... has a short time... "
00:21:40.96\00:21:43.47
because we're going
to pick up on this theme
00:21:43.50\00:21:45.67
actually throughout the
rest of the book of Revelation.
00:21:45.70\00:21:48.10
Hmmm...
00:21:48.14\00:21:49.47
It's kind of interesting
that as you look at Revelation
00:21:49.50\00:21:52.51
in chapters 1 through 11,
00:21:52.57\00:21:53.91
you've been seeing
just lines of history...
00:21:53.94\00:21:57.71
God's taking us from the cross
00:21:57.75\00:22:00.35
all the way down
to the end of time...
00:22:00.38\00:22:02.22
cross... that's what happens
with the seven churches...
00:22:02.25\00:22:04.49
seven seals...
the seven trumpets...
00:22:04.52\00:22:06.35
they begin at a certain
time and then take us down...
00:22:06.39\00:22:08.99
Revelation 12... we saw...
00:22:09.02\00:22:10.36
it's a re-cap of
the entire book...
00:22:10.39\00:22:14.90
the entire book of Revelation,
00:22:14.93\00:22:16.26
in fact, you know
what's interesting...
00:22:16.30\00:22:17.63
I don't know if we're
going to be able to finish this
00:22:17.67\00:22:21.04
but Revelation chapter 12
is... is so powerful because
00:22:21.07\00:22:24.71
it is literally the
entire Bible in one chapter.
00:22:24.74\00:22:30.08
Hmmm...
00:22:30.15\00:22:31.48
The entire Bible in one chapter.
00:22:31.51\00:22:33.18
It begins with the woman
00:22:33.21\00:22:35.52
who is told that
she's going to be...
00:22:35.55\00:22:39.59
she's going to be having a child
00:22:39.62\00:22:40.96
and, of course,
remember in our previous Program
00:22:40.99\00:22:43.43
we took it all
the way back to Eve,
00:22:43.49\00:22:45.23
the promised
Messiah was given...
00:22:45.26\00:22:48.06
the promise of the
Messiah was given to Eve
00:22:48.10\00:22:50.03
so in that first
verse of Revelation 12,
00:22:50.07\00:22:51.87
we basically have the whole
history of the Old Testament
00:22:51.90\00:22:54.64
waiting for the
coming of the Messiah,
00:22:54.67\00:22:57.01
then you get into
the Messiah coming,
00:22:57.04\00:22:59.31
then you get into what
happens after He comes...
00:22:59.37\00:23:03.95
He dies... He
ascends to heaven...
00:23:03.98\00:23:05.95
and then you see
this history of the dragon
00:23:05.98\00:23:08.48
being cast down to earth,
00:23:08.52\00:23:10.42
we're going to see this woman
fleeing into the wilderness
00:23:10.45\00:23:13.69
for a time...
times... and half a time...
00:23:13.72\00:23:16.86
which we're going to
see is 1,260 years...
00:23:16.89\00:23:19.56
once we go into it
00:23:19.59\00:23:20.93
and then it ends
with the final conflict
00:23:20.96\00:23:24.17
between the dragon
and God's end-time people
00:23:24.20\00:23:27.50
that's the
entire great controversy
00:23:27.54\00:23:29.80
all in there...
from beginning to end...
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the entire Bible
juiced down into one chapter.
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Wow!
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That's just great.
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It's amazing... Revelation
12 is an amazing chapter.
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So, that short
space or that short time,
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really takes on a
special significance
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once we get into chapter 13
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because like...
chapter 13 onward...
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it says, "Okay, now
we're going to focus on
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what that short time
really, really is all about.
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Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm...
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Okay, so He was cast
out... in the beginning...
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we see he was
also cast out again...
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at the death of
Christ in another way
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but there's a final way in
which the dragon comes down.
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James had just mentioned earlier
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that the dragon is
working through earthly powers
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but there's a time
that he actually sheds
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the earthly powers
and comes as himself.
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Hmmm... hmmm... Hmmm...
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Not as himself but...
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comes himself...
as somebody else.
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As somebody else.
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Hmmm...
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He's no longer
working behind kingdoms,
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now he's... "I'm here myself...
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but as somebody else
to claim my kingdom. "
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Wow!
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It is true, if you look at...
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we're in the
4th prophetic cycle,
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Revelation 12 begins
the 4th prophetic cycle
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so the 7 churches as
one... the 7 seals as two...
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and the 7 trumpets as
three... this is four...
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this prophetic cycle
actually ends in Revelation 14
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if you think about it.
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It's just 12, 13 and 14...
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it's a kind of a summary and
rehash of everything we've got
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but it's
climaxing in the end of time
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15 judgments... plagues...
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16... plagues... details...
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17... judgment of the whore,
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18... re-cap of the
loud cry... the judgment...
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Babylon is fallen...
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19... judgments...
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20... 1,000
years... he's here...
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saints in
heaven... books opened...
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everything is finished...
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21... New heavens and new earth.
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So really... 13, 14... is it...
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we're moving into
the last actual...
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and the thing about
this that's so interesting is
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everything we've
been studying so far...
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most of it is prophetic history,
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prophetic
history... prophetic history,
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now, we're
moving into the future,
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we're moving into prophecy
that has not been fulfilled yet
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and we are going to be
looking at some predictions
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that are so
absolute... so powerful...
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based upon the
history of what we've seen
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that they're really
going to help us to understand
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what the future holds...
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a lot of people are not sure,
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"Is it going to be
this... is it going to be that?"
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we're into
Muslim... Islamic terrorism...
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we're into, "Why is China...
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what place... role do they play,
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what role does Russia
play, what about United States,
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is the Papacy
still a valid power?"
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Revelation 13
makes it very, very clear
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who the main players are.
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Hmmm...
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Very clear... Wow...
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And we can be happy
that it is just a short time.
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Yes... Yes... yes.
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Because if this time
were not shortened...
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even the very elect... right?
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So, He's letting us know,
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"Hey, the things I
am about to tell you,
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they look... they look bad...
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but I promise you...
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the devil knows that when this
happens, it's just a short time
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so what you're going to see
in Revelation 13, 14 onward...
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short time...
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Yeah, we are there...
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So, Revelation chapter 12 is
going to finish up in a sense...
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re-cap for us a
little bit of the history
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that we've already looked
at in some of these verses
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the woman in the wilderness
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but it's really powerful
because there's a connection
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between this woman that's
given two wings of a great eagle
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in Revelation 13...
there's direct connection there
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there are certain
symbols that are mentioned here
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that are going to take us
into Revelation chapter 13
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and give us a good foundation
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for what's taking
place right there,
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namely the earth
is mentioned here,
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in Revelation chapter 12,
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the earth helps
the woman in verse 16
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and in Revelation chapter 13:11
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a beast comes
up out of the earth
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so we're going to
make a connection there
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but we have run out
of time for this Program
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All right, thank you so much
we are out of time right now
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but we are going to get
right into Revelation chapter 12
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finish it up and then...
move into Revelation 13 and 14.
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Yea...
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