Okay, we almost finished Revelation 10, 00:00:30.76\00:00:33.86 I mean, we've spent a couple of sessions on it, 00:00:33.90\00:00:36.10 and I think we finished it but there's one little phrase 00:00:36.13\00:00:38.33 that we talked about in our last session together 00:00:38.37\00:00:41.00 that we really want to highlight and understand 00:00:41.04\00:00:43.61 because I think what it does is 00:00:43.64\00:00:45.67 that it confirms this whole idea these time prophecies, 00:00:45.71\00:00:49.31 and this day-for-a-year principle 00:00:49.34\00:00:50.68 that they have a certain place where they fit, 00:00:50.71\00:00:53.08 they began... they ended... we're done with those, 00:00:53.11\00:00:55.65 the time is no longer... so now what? 00:00:55.68\00:00:57.65 Because if we are still waiting for time to be fulfilled, 00:00:57.69\00:01:01.56 then that's going to be indicated 00:01:01.59\00:01:03.63 in the verses that follow but yet 00:01:03.66\00:01:05.59 there's something in the verse that follows 00:01:05.63\00:01:08.66 that tells us that we're no longer waiting for time, 00:01:08.70\00:01:10.70 we're waiting for something else and that's the mystery of God. 00:01:10.77\00:01:12.77 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:01:12.80\00:01:14.14 James: So what is this mystery of God that we're waiting for? 00:01:14.17\00:01:16.37 That's what we want to discover, that's what we want to look at, 00:01:16.40\00:01:18.47 so, we need to begin with a word of prayer, don't we? 00:01:18.51\00:01:20.78 All right, who would like to pray for us? 00:01:20.81\00:01:22.94 Ivor: I'll pray... James: Thanks Ivor. 00:01:23.01\00:01:25.08 Ivor: "Heavenly Father, please guide us as we continue 00:01:25.11\00:01:29.42 to study your Word, we pray Lord 00:01:29.45\00:01:31.72 that what we learn will affect our hearts and our minds 00:01:31.75\00:01:36.52 and would work transformation within us, 00:01:36.56\00:01:39.43 and again Lord, we just ask that you send your Spirit 00:01:39.49\00:01:42.40 to guide us into all truth 00:01:42.43\00:01:43.90 is our prayer in Jesus' name, amen" 00:01:43.93\00:01:45.27 All: "Amen. " 00:01:45.30\00:01:46.77 James: And Ivor, I was just thinking about that... 00:01:46.80\00:01:48.14 that prayer has already been answered 00:01:48.17\00:01:50.17 with the frank confession that you made 00:01:50.21\00:01:52.44 between sessions... you didn't do it on... 00:01:52.47\00:01:54.64 and I won't take it out of your mouth and spill the beans 00:01:54.68\00:01:58.01 but the whole idea of the 1840 and the 1798 dates... 00:01:58.05\00:02:03.35 nailed down to establish the day-for-a-year principle 00:02:03.39\00:02:07.82 that that helped them through that bitter disappointment 00:02:07.86\00:02:12.26 we know the 1844... we know the 1798 date... 00:02:12.29\00:02:15.90 this... these prophetic timelines were established there 00:02:15.96\00:02:18.63 and, therefore, "that helped me get through that disappointment" 00:02:18.67\00:02:21.00 I love that... and so God's already answering your prayer, 00:02:21.04\00:02:23.57 He's leading us into this truth and helping us to see things 00:02:23.61\00:02:26.07 so, just, there they are, like... 00:02:26.11\00:02:28.71 Ivor: Amen, amen... good stuff. James: Yeah. 00:02:28.74\00:02:31.61 Ivor: And this mystery of iniquity... 00:02:31.65\00:02:35.65 I'm sorry... "mystery of God... " 00:02:35.68\00:02:37.29 and... I almost spilled the beans again. 00:02:37.35\00:02:39.95 All: Laugher... 00:02:39.99\00:02:44.13 James: All right, let's start with the mystery of God. 00:02:44.16\00:02:47.16 Ivor: Yeah... yeah... 00:02:47.20\00:02:48.53 James: Shall we? Revelation chapter 10... 00:02:48.56\00:02:49.90 Jason, read for us Revelation chapter 10 00:02:49.93\00:02:51.43 so we can get... so we can get a good start here, 00:02:51.47\00:02:53.67 Revelation 10 verse 7. 00:02:53.70\00:02:55.04 Jason: Verse 7? James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:02:55.07\00:02:56.40 Jason: "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, 00:02:56.44\00:02:58.74 when he shall begin to sound, 00:02:58.77\00:03:00.34 the mystery of God should be finished, 00:03:00.38\00:03:01.91 as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. " 00:03:01.94\00:03:04.38 James: Okay, so this mystery of God... 00:03:04.41\00:03:06.18 first of all, brings an end to all time prophecies, 00:03:06.21\00:03:09.82 in other words... "time no longer but... " 00:03:09.88\00:03:12.25 means, we're not waiting for time now, 00:03:12.29\00:03:14.62 now we're waiting for the mystery of God to be finished. 00:03:14.66\00:03:16.66 So, God has given us a number of ways 00:03:16.69\00:03:20.40 to know biblically, prophetically 00:03:20.43\00:03:24.07 that those time prophecies have come to an end, 00:03:24.10\00:03:25.90 that they were a day for a year... 00:03:25.93\00:03:27.70 and one of those ways He's given to us 00:03:27.74\00:03:29.67 that confirms this is the mystery of God, 00:03:29.70\00:03:31.57 that's what we're supposed to be looking for now, 00:03:31.61\00:03:33.88 we're not supposed to be looking for time prophecies anymore, 00:03:33.91\00:03:36.08 we're supposed to be looking for the mystery of God 00:03:36.11\00:03:37.45 so what is this mystery of God? 00:03:37.51\00:03:40.05 I've got one verse on it. 00:03:40.08\00:03:41.42 Ivor: Now, I just want to kind of amplify 00:03:41.45\00:03:43.65 a little bit of what you just said just now, 00:03:43.69\00:03:45.69 in the book of Daniel and in the book of Revelation, 00:03:45.72\00:03:52.09 there's really only one time prophecy, 00:03:52.13\00:03:57.03 it's the 2,300 days. James: Really, really? 00:03:57.07\00:04:00.04 Ivor: That's it. Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:04:00.10\00:04:01.44 Ivor: All the other prophecies, right, 00:04:01.47\00:04:02.84 70 weeks... the 1,260... 00:04:02.90\00:04:06.01 in the book of Daniel there's a 1,290... 00:04:06.07\00:04:08.61 there's a 1,335... 00:04:08.64\00:04:10.18 in the book of Revelation, there's the 5 months... 00:04:10.21\00:04:14.15 and there's the 391... along with the other... 00:04:14.18\00:04:18.05 they are all actually part of 00:04:18.12\00:04:20.66 that larger prophecy of the 2,300 days, 00:04:20.72\00:04:23.69 they just fall... these are sub-sections... 00:04:23.73\00:04:26.70 Yvonne: Right, like milestones? 00:04:26.73\00:04:29.33 Ivor: Yeah, they all fall in line so this part of the 2,300 00:04:29.36\00:04:31.93 and they're all actually given to culminate... 00:04:31.97\00:04:35.77 with that 2,300-day Prophecy ending 1844. 00:04:35.80\00:04:38.94 James: Yes... yeah... wow... 00:04:38.97\00:04:41.24 Ivor: So, one of the things 00:04:41.28\00:04:42.81 that's really important to understand is, 00:04:42.84\00:04:44.48 when we talk about the day-for-a-year principle, 00:04:44.51\00:04:46.95 there's another way to look at this, 00:04:46.98\00:04:48.55 I know we're kind of going off... 00:04:48.58\00:04:50.05 but I think it's important to point out here 00:04:50.09\00:04:52.42 that when you look at the 70-week Prophecy 00:04:52.45\00:04:54.76 and you know that well... 00:04:54.79\00:04:56.36 it couldn't be 70 weeks until the coming of Christ... 00:04:56.39\00:04:58.73 it has to be 70 weeks of years 00:04:58.76\00:05:00.53 because if you count that 70 weeks of years, 00:05:00.56\00:05:03.06 it establishes... that's what... 00:05:03.10\00:05:05.27 it's interesting... the beginning of the prophecy 00:05:05.30\00:05:07.40 establishes the veracity of the... 00:05:07.44\00:05:10.01 James: Rest. Ivor: Yeah, and so 00:05:10.04\00:05:12.51 if it's one prophecy... then every sub-section of that 00:05:12.54\00:05:17.81 prophecy must be a day for a year, 00:05:17.88\00:05:20.82 because it's all the same prophecy. 00:05:20.85\00:05:22.72 Yvonne: Right. James: Good point. 00:05:22.75\00:05:24.55 Ivor: Every prophecy... so that prophecy... 00:05:24.59\00:05:26.49 once we've established a day for a year, 00:05:26.52\00:05:28.32 every other part of it must be a day for a year 00:05:28.36\00:05:30.23 and that's what God is doing throughout 00:05:30.26\00:05:32.13 so when He says, "time no longer" 00:05:32.16\00:05:33.96 He's saying, "Look, the prophecy is done... 00:05:34.00\00:05:36.77 I've given you these... I've broken up these prophecies" 00:05:36.80\00:05:39.83 because imagine if this prophecy wasn't broken up, 00:05:39.90\00:05:42.44 there would be no shoulder for us to stand on. 00:05:42.50\00:05:45.04 James: Right. Yvonne: Right. 00:05:45.07\00:05:46.44 Ivor: No... "yeah, this is... 00:05:46.47\00:05:47.81 yeah, we're right... we're moving along... " 00:05:47.84\00:05:49.24 because 1844 is going to be an event 00:05:49.28\00:05:52.41 that could not be seen... in other words... 00:05:52.45\00:05:55.62 there's no verification on earth, 00:05:55.68\00:05:58.72 we can't see Jesus moving into a Most... 00:05:58.75\00:06:01.16 so... what God does this, he says, 00:06:01.19\00:06:02.52 "Look, I'm going to give you these waymarks... 00:06:02.56\00:06:04.69 and these being established will strengthen your faith 00:06:04.73\00:06:10.07 to believe in something that you cannot see" 00:06:10.10\00:06:13.13 because even the disciples could see 00:06:13.20\00:06:14.97 Jesus rose from the dead... right? 00:06:15.00\00:06:16.74 "Oh, 70-week prophecy... okay, we got it wrong... 00:06:16.77\00:06:18.87 but we have evidence, we've seen Him... " 00:06:18.91\00:06:20.81 here... nothing... 00:06:20.88\00:06:22.71 all we have to go on... is faith 00:06:22.74\00:06:26.05 but God said, "I'm not going to let you go on that alone, 00:06:26.08\00:06:28.18 I'm going to give you these prophecies, 00:06:28.22\00:06:30.32 all one prophecy... different sub-sections of that prophecy 00:06:30.35\00:06:34.82 so when He says, "Time no longer... " 00:06:34.89\00:06:36.69 He's saying, "Look, I've given you enough 00:06:36.73\00:06:38.49 to establish the truth of 1844." 00:06:38.53\00:06:41.93 James: Now what we need to look for is the mystery of God. 00:06:41.96\00:06:44.47 That's what we need to focus on. Ivor: That's it. 00:06:44.50\00:06:46.03 James: And the reason I really like this is 00:06:46.07\00:06:47.40 because it really ties in with the two-fold emphasis 00:06:47.44\00:06:52.01 of Revelation 10, 00:06:52.04\00:06:53.78 the first emphasis is intellectual knowledge, 00:06:53.81\00:06:55.84 "Write it, write it, write it, write it, write it" 00:06:55.91\00:06:57.95 okay, so, "The book's open, write it, write this down... " 00:06:57.98\00:07:00.95 the second emphasis is spiritual experience, 00:07:00.98\00:07:04.55 character development, no more writing, 00:07:04.59\00:07:06.92 "eat it... assimilate what's already been written" 00:07:06.96\00:07:09.96 "Thy Word was found... thy words were found... " 00:07:09.99\00:07:12.59 it says in Jeremiah 15:16, "Thy words were found, 00:07:12.63\00:07:15.16 and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me 00:07:15.20\00:07:18.17 the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: 00:07:18.20\00:07:20.37 for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. " 00:07:20.44\00:07:23.41 James: This is character development... 00:07:23.44\00:07:25.37 this is the mystery of God by the way, 00:07:25.41\00:07:27.28 that's the first verse on the mystery of God... Jeremiah 15:16 00:07:27.31\00:07:29.68 Jeremiah is in a sense 00:07:29.71\00:07:33.62 interpreting what it means to eat the words of God, 00:07:33.65\00:07:36.45 to eat the little book, 00:07:36.48\00:07:37.82 they are to become character, we are to... 00:07:37.85\00:07:40.16 we are to assimilate God's words 00:07:40.19\00:07:42.46 and they become the joy and rejoicing of our hearts 00:07:42.49\00:07:44.76 and we are called by His name, we become like Him, 00:07:44.79\00:07:47.00 so that's the first verse we're looking at. 00:07:47.03\00:07:49.03 Yvonne: Was this sanctification? 00:07:49.06\00:07:50.40 James: Yes well, it's righteousness by faith, 00:07:50.43\00:07:52.73 we call it righteousness by faith. 00:07:52.80\00:07:54.14 Yvonne: Okay. 00:07:54.17\00:07:55.50 James: Because sometimes when we separate sanctification 00:07:55.54\00:07:57.34 from the experience of righteousness by faith, 00:07:57.37\00:07:58.97 people can get the idea that 00:07:59.04\00:08:01.21 well, justification is what Christ does, 00:08:01.24\00:08:02.88 and sanctification is what we do... 00:08:02.91\00:08:04.55 no, no, it's all one package. Yvonne: Right. 00:08:04.58\00:08:07.15 James: Those who are 00:08:07.18\00:08:08.78 given the gift of salvation, will live for Jesus, 00:08:08.82\00:08:11.49 that's what they do, they live for Jesus 00:08:11.52\00:08:13.36 and sanctification is the gift that's given to us 00:08:13.39\00:08:16.62 that causes us to live our lives for Him 00:08:16.66\00:08:19.53 just like justification is a gift that's given to us 00:08:19.56\00:08:22.16 justification... sanctification, cannot be separated. 00:08:22.20\00:08:24.77 One of them deals with our past sins, 00:08:24.83\00:08:27.17 the next one deals with our ongoing life, our present life, 00:08:27.20\00:08:30.54 the power of sin in our lives is diminished and destroyed 00:08:30.61\00:08:33.41 by righteousness by faith by the gospel of Jesus Christ, 00:08:33.44\00:08:36.24 so it's one and the same thing 00:08:36.28\00:08:37.91 and because God gives us this gift of sanctification, 00:08:37.95\00:08:40.72 this gift of justification, we desire to live for Him 00:08:40.78\00:08:43.39 and that life that we live for Him... is an evidence 00:08:43.42\00:08:45.95 that we are resting on Him... His righteousness... His gift, 00:08:45.99\00:08:49.52 the gift of salvation, so when we look at this, 00:08:49.56\00:08:52.09 and there's another verse that I want to look at 00:08:52.13\00:08:54.63 and maybe we'll have a few more of it 00:08:54.66\00:08:56.46 but this one for sure is really going to nail it down, 00:08:56.50\00:08:59.63 this one is found in Colossians chapter 1 and verse 26, 00:08:59.70\00:09:02.80 actually, if we can read a few verses here, 00:09:02.84\00:09:06.21 whoever gets there first... but I'm thinking will be Jason 00:09:06.24\00:09:09.41 I'm watching you guys race through the Scriptures and... 00:09:09.44\00:09:12.61 Colossians 1, let's just read, Jason, 26, 27, 28 00:09:12.65\00:09:17.95 26, 27 and 28. 00:09:17.99\00:09:21.09 Jason: Okay, "Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages 00:09:21.12\00:09:24.86 and from generations, 00:09:24.89\00:09:26.23 but now is made manifest to his saints: 00:09:26.26\00:09:28.43 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory 00:09:28.46\00:09:33.10 of this mystery among the Gentiles; 00:09:33.13\00:09:35.17 which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 00:09:35.20\00:09:37.67 Whom we preach, warning every man, 00:09:37.71\00:09:40.14 and teaching every man in all wisdom; 00:09:40.18\00:09:42.54 that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus... " 00:09:42.61\00:09:45.81 James: Did you get that? 00:09:45.85\00:09:47.35 That's a summation of what we just said, 00:09:47.38\00:09:48.72 the mystery twice defined in verses 26 and 27... 00:09:48.75\00:09:54.39 the mystery is: Christ in you... the hope of glory 00:09:54.42\00:09:57.13 that's the mystery... 00:09:57.16\00:09:58.49 we're not looking for time prophecy anymore, 00:09:58.53\00:10:00.13 the time prophecies have all been fulfilled 00:10:00.16\00:10:01.86 all of that... intellectual knowledge, 00:10:01.93\00:10:04.90 let that rest in your mind and heart 00:10:04.93\00:10:07.87 that's good stuff but now we need to assimilate 00:10:07.90\00:10:10.67 the words of God 00:10:10.71\00:10:12.04 so that they become the joy and rejoicing of our heart 00:10:12.07\00:10:14.81 so that we are called by His name... 00:10:14.84\00:10:17.11 we need to have Christ in us, the hope of glory 00:10:17.15\00:10:20.85 this is the mystery... no more time... 00:10:20.92\00:10:23.12 we're waiting for the mystery of... 00:10:23.15\00:10:25.29 by the time the 7th angel sounds and Jesus comes, 00:10:25.35\00:10:27.49 you know what should be finished? 00:10:27.52\00:10:28.99 "Christ in you... the hope of glory" 00:10:29.02\00:10:30.39 so that... and this is the last verse here that we read, 00:10:30.43\00:10:33.36 that Jason read... 00:10:33.40\00:10:35.50 "so that... every man may be presented 00:10:35.53\00:10:37.97 perfect... in Christ... " 00:10:38.00\00:10:39.93 so, the only way we can be presented "perfect in Christ" 00:10:39.97\00:10:43.74 is if we have His righteousness, 00:10:43.77\00:10:45.87 if we have His righteousness, 00:10:45.91\00:10:47.91 we can be presented perfect in Christ 00:10:47.94\00:10:49.51 and the only way that we're going 00:10:49.54\00:10:51.01 to be having His righteousness is if our lives 00:10:51.08\00:10:53.62 are lives that are being lived for Him 00:10:53.65\00:10:55.52 because that's an evidence 00:10:55.55\00:10:56.89 that we have His righteousness, see... 00:10:56.92\00:10:58.62 Jason: Like we can say that 00:10:58.65\00:11:00.06 He's waiting for a purified bride... is that...? 00:11:00.09\00:11:03.26 James: Yes, He's waiting for a purified bride 00:11:03.29\00:11:06.46 and that evidence of a purified bride 00:11:06.49\00:11:08.03 is a people who are living for Him, 00:11:08.06\00:11:09.70 now, let me just put a caveat on that, 00:11:09.73\00:11:11.30 the "living for Him" is not sanctification, 00:11:11.33\00:11:14.97 the "living for Him" is not our ideal or fitness for heaven, 00:11:15.00\00:11:19.47 "living for Him" is not what saves us, 00:11:19.51\00:11:21.71 the "living for Him" is what evidence is... 00:11:21.74\00:11:23.75 that we're resting on His righteousness, 00:11:23.81\00:11:25.41 we're trusting in Him, 00:11:25.45\00:11:26.78 so, when you live a life for Jesus, 00:11:26.82\00:11:29.05 you're sold out for Jesus, you're following Him, 00:11:29.08\00:11:31.39 you're obeying His Word, you're keeping His Commandments, 00:11:31.42\00:11:32.99 that's an evidence 00:11:33.05\00:11:34.39 that you are trusting in His justification... sanctification, 00:11:34.42\00:11:36.99 in the gift of His righteousness. 00:11:37.03\00:11:38.36 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... 00:11:38.39\00:11:39.73 James: That's... that you're perfect in Christ, 00:11:39.76\00:11:41.10 that's the evidence of that, 00:11:41.13\00:11:42.46 without that... there's no evidence. 00:11:42.50\00:11:44.07 "What? You say you're an apple tree... where are the apples? 00:11:44.10\00:11:46.37 You said you were a fig tree, where are the figs?" 00:11:46.40\00:11:48.40 Well, the fig tree is a fig tree 00:11:48.44\00:11:51.51 and the apple tree is an apple tree... without the fruit 00:11:51.54\00:11:53.54 but the fruit... confirms... reveals... testifies to the fact 00:11:53.58\00:11:58.31 and without the fruit... it's not good for anything. 00:11:58.35\00:12:01.18 Ivor: Yeah, yeah, so, let's put this in context... 00:12:01.22\00:12:04.05 what do we have going on? 00:12:04.09\00:12:05.85 We have the mystery of Godliness being announced 00:12:05.89\00:12:10.59 in connection with 1844... okay... 00:12:10.63\00:12:14.20 so, okay, well, how do we get the mystery of Godliness 00:12:14.23\00:12:19.60 which is what? "Christ in you," right? 00:12:19.63\00:12:22.07 Now, we need Christ dwelling in us 00:12:22.10\00:12:24.47 because He wants to justify us and sanctify us... 00:12:24.51\00:12:28.78 righteousness by faith, so, how does that happen? 00:12:28.81\00:12:33.62 Well, God Himself has given us an object lesson 00:12:33.65\00:12:38.42 of what it means to have Christ in you, 00:12:38.45\00:12:41.26 Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life" 00:12:41.32\00:12:45.09 but Psalm 77 verse 13 says, 00:12:45.13\00:12:48.80 "Thy way, O God, is in the Sanctuary... " 00:12:48.83\00:12:52.20 if you look at Exodus 25 and verse 8, 00:12:52.23\00:12:55.07 I'm just looking at you right now, 00:12:55.10\00:12:57.71 if you look at Exodus 25 verse 8, God said, 00:12:57.77\00:13:01.41 "And let them make me a sanctuary; 00:13:01.44\00:13:02.94 that I may dwell among them" 00:13:02.98\00:13:04.98 really meaning... within them. 00:13:05.01\00:13:06.92 Ivor: So, in the New Testament, we are sanctuaries... 00:13:06.95\00:13:11.05 "Know ye not that you are the temple of the Holy Ghost?" 00:13:11.09\00:13:15.16 Right? and so, in the Old Testament 00:13:15.22\00:13:17.86 God was trying to show the Children of Israel 00:13:17.89\00:13:19.66 "Look, the mystery of Godliness is me... dwelling in you... 00:13:19.69\00:13:24.07 and the sanctuary is the object lesson of how this works" 00:13:24.10\00:13:28.44 so, when we see 00:13:28.47\00:13:31.41 that God says, "This is the mystery of Godliness" 00:13:31.44\00:13:34.74 and then we find something really amazing... 00:13:34.78\00:13:36.41 so I want you to turn with me in your Bible 00:13:36.44\00:13:37.95 to 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 and let me ask someone 00:13:37.98\00:13:42.68 to read verses 3 through 7, 00:13:42.72\00:13:47.26 so 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 3 through 7. 00:13:47.29\00:13:50.36 Yvonne: "Let no man deceive you by any means: 00:13:50.39\00:13:52.86 for that day shall not come, 00:13:52.89\00:13:54.30 except there come a falling away first, 00:13:54.33\00:13:56.80 and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 00:13:56.83\00:14:00.30 Who opposeth and exalteth himself 00:14:00.34\00:14:02.87 above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; 00:14:02.90\00:14:05.64 so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, 00:14:05.67\00:14:09.34 shewing himself that he is God. 00:14:09.41\00:14:11.95 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, 00:14:11.98\00:14:15.18 I told you these things?" 00:14:15.22\00:14:16.55 You want me to go through verse 7? 00:14:16.58\00:14:17.95 Ivor: Verse 7, yeah. James: You got to hear verse 7. 00:14:17.99\00:14:20.62 Yvonne: "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: 00:14:20.66\00:14:23.22 only he who now letteth will let, 00:14:23.26\00:14:25.73 until he be taken out of the way. " 00:14:25.76\00:14:27.63 James: Ivor, how can you be so calm right now, buddy, 00:14:27.66\00:14:29.00 what's wrong with you you lost your...? 00:14:29.03\00:14:30.37 Ivor: I don't know... I was trying to understand 00:14:30.40\00:14:32.43 how I am being so calm, right now. 00:14:32.50\00:14:35.67 James: That was cool... 00:14:35.70\00:14:37.64 Ivor: you know... just meditating in my mind 00:14:37.67\00:14:40.04 like, "What's going on?" James: Yeah. 00:14:40.08\00:14:41.54 Yvonne: Okay, pull this together. 00:14:41.58\00:14:42.91 James: Because the first thing we did this whole thing 00:14:42.94\00:14:44.61 and that happened to you, you were just like, 00:14:44.65\00:14:46.11 "Oooh... " 00:14:46.15\00:14:48.05 Ivor: So, the mystery of Godliness... is God in us. 00:14:48.08\00:14:51.49 Yvonne: Right. James: In the temple. 00:14:51.55\00:14:52.89 Ivor: In the temple, right, God in the temple 00:14:52.92\00:14:54.32 and we are the temple and in fact... 00:14:54.36\00:14:56.39 imagine it like this, If you want to know who God is 00:14:56.42\00:14:59.06 He says, "Go to my temple... " 00:14:59.09\00:15:00.50 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Ivor: The Sanctuary... 00:15:00.53\00:15:01.90 James: Which we are about to do. Ivor: That's right, 00:15:01.93\00:15:03.83 that's coming right up... I'm just setting you up... 00:15:03.87\00:15:05.73 James: I can't wait... you're so patient. 00:15:05.77\00:15:08.84 Ivor: Oh yeah, the Sanctuary is like, 00:15:08.87\00:15:11.91 a picture of God... 00:15:11.94\00:15:13.27 so, you know how you carry a picture 00:15:13.31\00:15:15.38 in your wallet, "This is my mom, this is my... " 00:15:15.41\00:15:17.08 Yvonne: Right... right... 00:15:17.11\00:15:18.45 Ivor: The sanctuary is like a picture of... 00:15:18.51\00:15:19.85 you want to know who God is? Go into the Sanctuary, 00:15:19.88\00:15:22.02 it reveals who God is 00:15:22.05\00:15:23.69 and by beholding Him, I become like Him, 00:15:23.72\00:15:26.79 right, God... "Christ in me... the hope of glory" 00:15:26.82\00:15:30.89 but what we just read in 2nd Thessalonians, 00:15:30.93\00:15:33.13 this is the mystery of Godliness, 00:15:33.16\00:15:34.50 what we just read in 2nd Thessalonians is that 00:15:34.53\00:15:36.16 there would be a mystery of iniquity... 00:15:36.20\00:15:38.47 which is the very opposite of the mystery of Godliness, 00:15:38.50\00:15:41.60 this mystery of iniquity would sit in the temple of God... 00:15:41.64\00:15:44.67 James: Just like the mystery of Godliness... 00:15:44.71\00:15:46.17 Ivor: That's right... just like the mystery of Godliness... 00:15:46.21\00:15:47.64 Yvonne: Oh... Ivor: Showing, "Hey, I'm God... 00:15:47.68\00:15:49.74 and as God, let me show you what God is like" 00:15:49.78\00:15:51.75 "Oh, God burns babies forever... " 00:15:51.78\00:15:54.62 "Yeah, and you know, 00:15:54.65\00:15:56.38 God requires payment for the forgiveness of sins," 00:15:56.42\00:15:59.25 "Oh yeah, God persecutes other Christians 00:15:59.29\00:16:03.76 who don't believe as we believe. " 00:16:03.79\00:16:06.59 The picture of God had been changed 00:16:06.63\00:16:09.40 during the Dark Ages. 00:16:09.43\00:16:10.90 The mystery of iniquity had taken the place 00:16:10.93\00:16:14.84 of the mystery of Godliness. 00:16:14.87\00:16:17.27 Yvonne: Oooooh, now you know that's deep right there. 00:16:17.31\00:16:19.07 Ivor: And so, what you have happening 00:16:19.11\00:16:21.24 in Revelation chapter 10, 00:16:21.28\00:16:22.78 God says, "Listen, the mystery of Godliness, 00:16:22.81\00:16:25.71 which is supposed to go into all the world, 00:16:25.75\00:16:28.55 to every nation, kindred, tongue and then the end will come" 00:16:28.58\00:16:30.69 yeah, that was... that was obscured 00:16:30.72\00:16:33.25 during the Dark Ages by the mystery of iniquity. 00:16:33.29\00:16:34.72 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:16:34.76\00:16:36.09 Ivor: Showing a picture... a false picture 00:16:36.12\00:16:39.49 of who God is... now... now... 00:16:39.53\00:16:41.83 James: I'm ready... I'm ready... 00:16:41.86\00:16:44.10 Yvonne: That's the counterfeit about the truth. 00:16:44.17\00:16:46.70 James: Ready... ready... I got the verse. 00:16:46.74\00:16:48.44 Ready, ready, now, now, "Thou must prophesy again, 00:16:48.47\00:16:51.94 you've got to prophesy again before many nations... " 00:16:51.97\00:16:55.34 Revelation 10:11... "before many nations, kindreds, tongues... 00:16:55.38\00:16:58.18 you've got to tell the world about this" 00:16:58.21\00:16:59.55 so here's the Millerite Movement being raised up 00:16:59.58\00:17:02.52 going through this disappointment 00:17:02.55\00:17:04.39 but coming to this full revelation... the mystery of God 00:17:04.42\00:17:07.22 "You've got to tell the world about this mystery of God, 00:17:07.26\00:17:09.76 because there's a counterfeit and this counterfeit... 00:17:09.82\00:17:12.69 I've had him on hold... I've had him under judgment, 00:17:12.73\00:17:15.60 I've tried to get him to repent, he won't repent, he won't repent 00:17:15.63\00:17:17.93 he won't repent... so, next option... 00:17:17.97\00:17:20.24 since I can't get him to repent, I can't get the church purified, 00:17:20.27\00:17:22.90 next option... I'm raising up this new Movement 00:17:22.94\00:17:25.01 and I'm pulling people out of all these different churches 00:17:25.04\00:17:27.61 that have been infected by this misunderstanding 00:17:27.64\00:17:29.24 of my character, 00:17:29.31\00:17:30.65 I'm pulling them out... I'm bringing them together... 00:17:30.68\00:17:32.25 and they're going to go... they're going to be tried... 00:17:32.31\00:17:34.22 because there are a lot of people 00:17:34.25\00:17:35.58 that are just kind of coming with them... that aren't really 00:17:35.62\00:17:37.12 shouldn't be there so they're going out... 00:17:37.15\00:17:38.99 and I'm going to purify this one group, 00:17:39.02\00:17:40.79 tried... purified... and then I want them to prophecy 00:17:40.82\00:17:43.79 they've got to prophecy again because my character 00:17:43.83\00:17:46.83 my character has been distorted before the world. " 00:17:46.86\00:17:49.53 Yvonne: Wow! 00:17:49.56\00:17:50.90 James: And the last message that has to go to the world, 00:17:50.93\00:17:52.27 is a revelation of the character of God 00:17:52.30\00:17:53.67 and that sets us up for Revelation 11:1 and 2. 00:17:53.70\00:17:56.94 Yvonne: Wooo... you know what? 00:17:56.97\00:17:58.31 James: You got to be quiet and still for about 10 minutes. 00:17:58.34\00:18:00.71 Yvonne: "Praise the Lord." This is so rich, 00:18:00.78\00:18:04.55 this is so rich it's giving me chills... 00:18:04.58\00:18:06.75 James: I never made that connection before... 00:18:06.78\00:18:08.12 between 2nd Thessalonians. Ivor: Yeah. 00:18:08.15\00:18:09.48 James: I know you didn't... 00:18:09.52\00:18:10.85 I know, you got no excuse now, but you say that 00:18:10.89\00:18:12.22 you've got to be careful now because you're saying 00:18:12.25\00:18:13.62 that live now... you know what I'm saying? 00:18:13.66\00:18:15.39 Ivor: Yes, we knew that all along. 00:18:15.42\00:18:16.76 Yes, we've been preparing. 00:18:16.79\00:18:18.39 Yvonne: Isn't that amazing when the Holy Spirit 00:18:18.43\00:18:21.70 gives you an insight and an insight on the spot 00:18:21.73\00:18:24.97 and it's just... this is so rich... 00:18:25.00\00:18:26.94 James: Yeah, and the conflict's going to continue 00:18:26.97\00:18:28.80 because when we get into our last prophetic cycle, 00:18:28.87\00:18:30.64 you've got intense conflict now between these two powers 00:18:30.71\00:18:34.28 and the counterfeit is almost overwhelming 00:18:34.31\00:18:36.58 because you've got the Godhead, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, 00:18:36.61\00:18:39.68 and you've got the counterfeit, 00:18:39.71\00:18:41.05 the beast, the dragon and the false prophet. 00:18:41.08\00:18:42.42 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:18:42.45\00:18:43.79 James: Calling down fire from heaven... doing miracles... 00:18:43.82\00:18:46.55 see, you've got the same back and forth 00:18:46.59\00:18:49.02 worship... worship... then you've got two groups 00:18:49.06\00:18:52.16 that are ripened for the harvest... 00:18:52.19\00:18:54.50 in the end, you've got two groups that are ripe... 00:18:54.53\00:18:57.07 that's Revelation 14... 00:18:57.10\00:18:58.43 "Thrust in thy sickle and reap, the grape... 00:18:58.47\00:19:00.50 those who are going to taste of the wrath 00:19:00.54\00:19:02.84 and then... reap those 00:19:02.87\00:19:04.24 who are going to be taken up with God into heaven. " 00:19:04.31\00:19:06.47 Ivor: And I think it's so crucial because 00:19:06.51\00:19:08.54 what this is showing us is that 00:19:08.58\00:19:12.11 end-time events are not going to be 00:19:12.15\00:19:15.38 overtly wicked against righteous, 00:19:15.42\00:19:18.62 it's going to be 00:19:18.65\00:19:20.22 "false righteous" versus "true righteous" 00:19:20.26\00:19:22.92 you see what I'm saying? 00:19:22.96\00:19:24.29 Yvonne: Ooooh, now that's a great... unpack that. 00:19:24.33\00:19:26.23 Ivor: The mystery of iniquity is not... 00:19:26.26\00:19:27.83 it's not open evil, 00:19:27.86\00:19:30.23 the mystery of iniquity is a counterfeit of who God is. 00:19:30.27\00:19:33.44 Yvonne: Ooooh... James: A very close counterfeit. 00:19:33.47\00:19:35.74 Ivor: A very close counterfeit. 00:19:35.77\00:19:37.11 Yvonne: So that... so that even the very elect... 00:19:37.14\00:19:39.57 Ivor: Elect... if it were possible... 00:19:39.61\00:19:41.98 it's a mystery, if it weren't a mystery, 00:19:42.01\00:19:44.31 then it would just be iniquity... 00:19:44.38\00:19:45.71 just be iniquity... "Oh yeah, that's iniquity" 00:19:45.75\00:19:47.48 no... this is the mystery of iniquity... 00:19:47.52\00:19:49.62 it doesn't look like iniquity on the front, 00:19:49.68\00:19:51.75 it looks like God... 00:19:51.79\00:19:53.59 it's sitting in the temple of God... 00:19:53.62\00:19:56.12 showing itself to be God... 00:19:56.16\00:19:58.23 James: Let's just get some verification on this 00:19:58.26\00:20:00.96 for our Viewers, so, 00:20:01.00\00:20:02.33 number one, this is the way that Satan has worked 00:20:02.36\00:20:04.37 from the very beginning. 00:20:04.43\00:20:05.77 In heaven, angel, Lucifer, light bearer, et cetera, 00:20:05.80\00:20:09.50 coming down to earth... Eve, Adam et cetera, 00:20:09.54\00:20:12.27 going through... but then when you get to, for example, 00:20:12.31\00:20:14.84 and I'm just going to... we'll just look at the references here 00:20:14.91\00:20:16.95 it's in 2nd Corinthians chapter 11 00:20:16.98\00:20:19.25 this is how we're told... this is how Satan works... 00:20:19.28\00:20:22.75 and again... we... we're going to see this 00:20:22.78\00:20:25.09 in our last prophetic cycle, Revelation 12, 00:20:25.12\00:20:27.39 we're going to see it even more 00:20:27.42\00:20:28.76 but here, Paul is calling us back to Genesis 00:20:28.79\00:20:32.16 and making the connection to Genesis 00:20:32.19\00:20:33.90 all the way up until his time in the New Testament 00:20:33.93\00:20:36.97 and he's making the same connection 00:20:37.00\00:20:38.33 that we're talking about, 2nd Corinthians 11 00:20:38.37\00:20:42.00 and Jason read for us verses 2, 3 and 4. 00:20:42.04\00:20:45.57 Jason: Okay, "For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: 00:20:45.64\00:20:50.98 for I have espoused you to one husband, 00:20:51.01\00:20:54.12 that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 00:20:54.15\00:20:58.65 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve 00:20:58.69\00:21:03.69 through his subtlety, 00:21:03.73\00:21:05.89 so your minds should be corrupted 00:21:05.93\00:21:09.23 from the simplicity that is in Christ. 00:21:09.26\00:21:10.90 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, 00:21:10.97\00:21:14.07 whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, 00:21:14.10\00:21:18.84 which ye have not received, or another gospel, 00:21:18.87\00:21:21.51 which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. " 00:21:21.54\00:21:24.81 James: Now verses... 00:21:24.85\00:21:26.18 Yvonne, read verses 13 through 15 of the same chapter. 00:21:26.21\00:21:28.65 Yvonne: "For such are false apostles, 00:21:28.68\00:21:31.55 deceitful workers, transforming themselves 00:21:31.59\00:21:34.12 into the apostles of Christ. 00:21:34.16\00:21:35.89 And no marvel; 00:21:35.92\00:21:37.39 for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 00:21:37.43\00:21:40.80 Therefore it is no great thing 00:21:40.83\00:21:43.20 if his ministers also be transformed 00:21:43.23\00:21:45.33 as the ministers of righteousness; 00:21:45.40\00:21:47.44 whose end shall be according to their works. " 00:21:47.47\00:21:49.77 James: There it is, right there. Yvonne: Wow! 00:21:49.80\00:21:52.01 James: So Paul is telling us just how this is going to work, 00:21:52.04\00:21:54.31 he's the one that wrote 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 also 00:21:54.34\00:21:56.61 "he's going to come as an angel of light... 00:21:56.64\00:21:58.88 he's going to deceive, if possible, the very elect. " 00:21:58.91\00:22:01.28 In the context of 2nd Thessalonians, 00:22:01.32\00:22:03.25 "Those who received not the love of the truth... 00:22:03.28\00:22:06.42 that they might be saved 00:22:06.45\00:22:07.79 and therefore they have pleasure in unrighteousness 00:22:07.82\00:22:10.33 and these are the principles" so the mystery of God is huge, 00:22:10.39\00:22:13.03 we are going to be part of the mystery of God 00:22:13.06\00:22:15.16 or are we going to be part of the mystery of iniquity 00:22:15.20\00:22:17.23 and it's going to be almost impossible for us to tell, 00:22:17.27\00:22:19.27 we've got to examine ourselves. 00:22:19.30\00:22:20.64 I see you're thinking about a question. 00:22:20.67\00:22:23.24 Yvonne: You know, it's so funny, what popped into my mind is, 00:22:23.30\00:22:27.31 just doing like a study on the mystery of God 00:22:27.34\00:22:30.01 and the mystery of iniquity 00:22:30.05\00:22:31.91 because that's... I mean... that sermon. 00:22:31.95\00:22:33.72 Ivor: Hmmm... hmmm... I'm already planning it. 00:22:33.78\00:22:37.62 Yvonne: Good, I'll get your notes, but to me that... 00:22:37.65\00:22:41.76 I mean, God is letting us know, 00:22:41.79\00:22:44.49 the wonderful thing about this is that... 00:22:44.53\00:22:46.90 He didn't leave us in the dark, 00:22:46.93\00:22:48.53 He's letting us know what's going to happen, 00:22:48.56\00:22:50.77 it's up to us to study and find out 00:22:50.80\00:22:53.64 how it's going to play out but He has left it for us. 00:22:53.70\00:22:57.97 Ivor: We need to get to Revelation 11 verse 1. 00:22:58.01\00:23:00.78 James: Let's do it right now because it's... 00:23:00.81\00:23:03.51 it's burning a hole in my pocket. 00:23:03.55\00:23:05.18 Jason: I like what you were saying because I mean, 00:23:05.21\00:23:08.15 even from the very beginning, God has sustained us, 00:23:08.18\00:23:11.05 He created man on the 6th day, 00:23:11.09\00:23:13.79 the plants, animals... all that stuff... 00:23:13.82\00:23:15.99 everything was here for us when we were created 00:23:16.02\00:23:19.76 throughout time... He's just sustained us 00:23:19.79\00:23:22.50 and He's still creating and sustaining. 00:23:22.53\00:23:25.13 James: Creating and sustaining, creating and sustaining, 00:23:25.17\00:23:26.84 that's what it's all about for God. 00:23:26.87\00:23:29.24 Okay, 11 verse 1, let's read those verses, 11:1 and 2. 00:23:29.27\00:23:33.14 "And there was given unto me a reed like unto a rod: 00:23:33.17\00:23:36.98 and the angel stood saying, 00:23:37.01\00:23:38.35 Rise, measure the temple of God... " number one, 00:23:38.38\00:23:41.52 "the altar" number two.. 00:23:41.55\00:23:43.32 "and them that worship therein. 00:23:43.35\00:23:45.25 But the court... " verse two... 00:23:45.29\00:23:47.09 "But the court which is without the temple leave out, 00:23:47.12\00:23:49.59 and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: 00:23:49.62\00:23:51.99 the holy city shall they tread under foot forty two months. " 00:23:52.03\00:23:54.56 Verse 1, that's what I want us to look at, 00:23:54.60\00:23:56.83 three things are being measured, the temple of God, 00:23:56.87\00:23:59.10 the altar and them that worship therein. 00:23:59.13\00:24:01.47 Now this measurement 00:24:01.50\00:24:02.84 is directly connected to the character of God, 00:24:02.87\00:24:05.17 the word "measure" means... to judge, 00:24:05.21\00:24:07.61 to judge... judge God... 00:24:07.64\00:24:10.01 that's just a fact, it's a given... 00:24:10.05\00:24:12.55 and that's why this context is so important 00:24:12.58\00:24:14.85 because this context is coming at a time 00:24:14.88\00:24:16.99 when Dark Ages have just taken place 00:24:17.02\00:24:19.05 when people have totally misunderstood God's character 00:24:19.09\00:24:21.26 and so the whole world is just naturally it... 00:24:21.29\00:24:23.99 in a trajectory to measure God... to judge God... 00:24:24.03\00:24:28.26 "Whoa, I don't want anything to do 00:24:28.30\00:24:29.70 with this God that burns babies... " 00:24:29.76\00:24:31.10 "I don't want anything to do with this God that... " 00:24:31.13\00:24:33.10 "I want nothing to do with that kind of God... " 00:24:33.13\00:24:35.04 and that is the atmosphere 00:24:35.07\00:24:36.71 in which the Millerite Movement was raised up 00:24:36.74\00:24:38.27 and they were raised up with a Movement 00:24:38.31\00:24:39.97 that calls us to the mystery of Godliness 00:24:40.04\00:24:41.64 that's calling us to clarify what God is really like. 00:24:41.68\00:24:44.35 Ivor: It's calling them to actually measure the temple, 00:24:44.38\00:24:47.02 it's calling them... their attention... 00:24:47.05\00:24:48.78 to the temple, why? 00:24:48.82\00:24:50.15 Because that's where the true picture of God is revealed, 00:24:50.19\00:24:52.85 that's where the true character of God is 00:24:52.89\00:24:54.92 "and by beholding... we become changed" 00:24:54.96\00:24:57.23 this is very interesting, it says, "measure the temple" 00:24:57.26\00:24:59.63 is there any other place in the Bible 00:24:59.69\00:25:01.26 where the temple is measured? 00:25:01.33\00:25:03.67 It's in the book of Exodus... Exodus 25, what was measured? 00:25:03.70\00:25:07.47 the articles of furniture in the Sanctuary, 00:25:07.50\00:25:09.67 those articles reveal who God is, 00:25:09.70\00:25:12.67 the Ark of the Covenant reveals that God is a God of justice 00:25:12.74\00:25:17.98 and the Mercy Seat 00:25:18.01\00:25:21.55 points to God as a God of mercy, 00:25:21.58\00:25:24.45 the candlestick points to God as a God of light, 00:25:24.49\00:25:26.92 the Word points to Him as a God who sustains us, 00:25:26.96\00:25:30.96 the Table of Shewbread... 00:25:30.99\00:25:32.76 the Altar of Incense points to Him as a God who is a friend, 00:25:32.79\00:25:36.20 someone that we can talk to and so, 00:25:36.23\00:25:38.77 the Altar... His self-sacrifice, the Laver... His purity 00:25:38.83\00:25:43.20 so God is like... "Look, when the Papacy did this stuff, 00:25:43.24\00:25:47.14 they were... when they began to tamper with these truths, 00:25:47.18\00:25:51.08 they were tampering with my character, 00:25:51.11\00:25:53.11 now I need you to prophesy again, 00:25:53.15\00:25:55.05 tell them about these articles of furniture... 00:25:55.08\00:25:57.69 tell them about the Sanctuary, tell them about my character 00:25:57.72\00:26:01.56 because in doing so, the mystery of God... 00:26:01.59\00:26:04.93 the mystery of God will go into all the world 00:26:04.96\00:26:08.23 which is a revelation, counteract the counterfeit. " 00:26:08.26\00:26:11.60 James: Yes... and the Altar... 00:26:11.63\00:26:13.27 the Altar is also an article of furniture 00:26:13.34\00:26:15.60 that's distinctly brought out here, "so measure the temple" 00:26:15.64\00:26:18.44 but then, the Altar is brought out as something specifically 00:26:18.47\00:26:21.24 to be measured in addition to the temple 00:26:21.28\00:26:23.88 because we'd say, "Well, it's inclusive of the temple?" 00:26:23.91\00:26:25.28 No, see, the Altar is the place where the lamb was sacrificed, 00:26:25.31\00:26:28.52 the Altar is Calvary... Ivor: That's right. 00:26:28.55\00:26:30.42 James: So in order for us to really get an understanding 00:26:30.45\00:26:32.25 of God's character, 00:26:32.29\00:26:33.62 in order for us to really be able to measure the temple, 00:26:33.66\00:26:35.82 we've got to measure the Altar and the sacrifice of God. 00:26:35.86\00:26:38.19 Ivor: We need to point out that in the latter... 00:26:38.23\00:26:40.90 in what we're going to read after... in the next program... 00:26:40.93\00:26:43.57 in Revelation 11... is the rise of Atheism... 00:26:43.60\00:26:46.07 kind of... you know... jumping the gun again 00:26:46.13\00:26:48.54 but it's the rise of Atheism and the key here is that... 00:26:48.57\00:26:51.74 Atheism is a result of a rejection 00:26:51.77\00:26:54.04 of a false picture of Godliness. 00:26:54.08\00:26:55.71 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:26:55.74\00:26:57.08 Ivor: The true picture of God 00:26:57.11\00:26:58.75 is the only answer to the Atheist argument. 00:26:58.78\00:27:01.68 James: In other words, 00:27:01.72\00:27:03.05 many Atheists reject the very same god that we reject. 00:27:03.08\00:27:05.72 Ivor: Yes... Yvonne: Ah... 00:27:05.75\00:27:07.26 James: Many Atheists reject the very same god that we reject. 00:27:07.32\00:27:10.06 Yvonne: It's the rejection of the counterfeit. 00:27:10.09\00:27:11.49 James: Yes. Ivor: Exactly. 00:27:11.53\00:27:12.86 James: That everyone thinks it's the truth. 00:27:12.89\00:27:14.23 Yvonne: Right... Ivor: They're smart... 00:27:14.26\00:27:15.60 because, "Yeah, why would I accept a God like that?" 00:27:15.63\00:27:18.20 Yvonne: Right. 00:27:18.23\00:27:19.57 Ivor: They just need to see the true picture. 00:27:19.60\00:27:21.84 James: Not just smart but they're also... 00:27:21.87\00:27:24.21 they're also morally sensitive, 00:27:24.27\00:27:27.04 "There's no way that I could serve a God 00:27:27.08\00:27:28.64 that would do that to people. " Ivor: Yeah. 00:27:28.71\00:27:30.08 James: "That's not... that can't be... 00:27:30.11\00:27:31.45 if that's what Christianity is, 00:27:31.48\00:27:32.81 I want nothing to do with it. " Yvonne: Right. 00:27:32.85\00:27:34.32 James: So that makes sense in that context 00:27:34.35\00:27:36.02 and that's why this message is so pertinent... so important. 00:27:36.05\00:27:38.22 Yvonne: Powerful... oooooh! 00:27:38.25\00:27:39.59 James: It is... it's just beautiful... 00:27:39.62\00:27:41.22 and here's another thing, just a few seconds left, 00:27:41.26\00:27:44.26 this comes right after the bitter Disappointment, 00:27:44.29\00:27:47.23 prophecy says that there's a... 00:27:47.26\00:27:49.26 there's this message of judgment right after the Disappointment 00:27:49.30\00:27:52.83 so it fits perfectly in the prophetic cycle. 00:27:52.87\00:27:54.77 We are out of time... out of time... 00:27:54.80\00:27:56.14 Yvonne: Ah, this was so good. 00:27:56.17\00:27:57.64 James: But we'll pick it up in the next session. 00:27:57.67\00:27:59.91 Yvonne: Great. 00:27:59.97\00:28:01.31