Okay, we left off
in Revelation chapter 7
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we spent two
studies... two programs
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on the 144,000 and
we're still not done,
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go figure...
Yvonne: I love it though...
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James: Now, I'm just going to...
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Yvonne: It's juicy... this
is some juicy stuff right here.
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James: And it's good
stuff, it's important stuff.
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Yvonne: It is.
James: Now we left off...
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we're going to do two
more programs actually
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because we're going to do this
one... it's on the Seal of God
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but it's going to finish up the
characteristics of the 144,000
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in Revelation 14... we might
even touch on Revelation 15,
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we're going to kind of
do that a little bit...
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and then we're going to go
right in to the Seal of God
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which is part of the 144,000
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they're sealed
with the Seal of God
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which we've already learned
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is the name of the
Father in their foreheads...
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the name of the
Father in their foreheads...
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Ezekiel 9 tells us
that that's a protection
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that it can be seen...
it's a Mark that can be seen
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but Revelation tells us
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it's also character...
it's also infused...
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it's the
character of God within us,
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so it's not just a
protection outward...
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it's an inward
experience that we have
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in our
relationship with Jesus Christ
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because Jesus Christ's character
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is the reflection of
the Father's character.
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so we want to look at
the characteristics...
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do all of the redeemed
have these characteristics
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or is this just an elite group?
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That was the question we were
kind of dealing with, right,
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and then in our next program...
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it's probably going to
be one of the best programs
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that we're going to do,
I'm just throwing this out,
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you guys are
going to share with us
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everything you've learned
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about the 144,000
and the Seal of God.
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Yvonne: Ohhhh... James:
We're just going to be...
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Yvonne: Might be
kind of short huh,
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no...
underplaying... underplaying.
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James: Well, we're just going to
interact... interact, interact
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and just go through
it, what we're thinking is,
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we should
summarize the whole thing.
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Yvonne: Yeah, I think it's good.
James: We could be done in three
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but we're going
to do the fourth one
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and summarize the whole thing
and just bring it all together,
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boom! type of thing, okay,
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so, Jason, let's hit it
off with a word of prayer
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because we really need
the Holy Spirit to be here
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and then I'm thinking, we
should move to Revelation 14
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and get into the
next characteristic.
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Jason: All right,
"Dear Heavenly Father,
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thank you so much for
bringing us back together
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to study your Word again,
please send your Holy Spirit
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to fill this
place with your presence
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as we dig deeper into Revelation
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and progress further
and further in the Book,
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in Jesus' name we pray, amen. "
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All: "Amen... "
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James: All right, Revelation 14,
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now we've looked at the
Father's name in Revelation 14
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and verse 1, we've
looked at Mount Zion too
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we identified those
and then we looked at
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the first fruits which is
in Revelation 14 and verse 4
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but there's... there's another
characteristic or two here
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one of them in
Revelation 14:4 is...
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"These are they
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which were not defiled with
women; for they are virgins. "
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Okay, my understanding of
that is that sometimes we think,
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"Well that must just be
an end-time group because
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not defiled with
women and virgins
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infers that these guys
have pure doctrine... "
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now the reason I
says this is because
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if you read this
literally, this could be...
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this could
infer... this is male...
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virgins... never
slept with a woman...
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and Jewish...
according to Revelation 7,
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and that's what a
lot of people think...
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Christians believe
that this 144,000 are
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the literal 12 tribes of
Israel, they're literal Jews
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and when you get
to Revelation 14...
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they're literal male Jews
who've never slept with a woman.
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They take it all literally
and one thing that's really...
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I think, good about
that interpretation,
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one positive point about
it I don't agree with it,
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one positive point
about it, it's consistent,
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everything is literal,
everything is literal...
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we want to be just as consistent
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in saying and understanding,
everything is symbolic,
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the number,
therefore, is symbolic,
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you can't have a literal number
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and everything else is
symbolic, so we're saying,
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"No, it's either all
literal or it's all symbolic"
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so we've come down on the
side of, "it's all symbolic... "
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so what does it mean then
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to be a woman and a virgin
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in relation to our
relationship to Christ?
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Yvonne: Who are you
asking? You're asking us?
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James: Yeah... I'm asking...
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Jason: A church is Christ's
bride... so a purified bride.
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James: Okay, so...
definitely, we know...
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the woman would be a symbol...
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if it's symbolic...
which we believe it is
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all God's church... God's bride,
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and we see the
wedding theme here...
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so we know... but
what about virgins,
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I mean, how does
that play into that?
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is there a Bible
verse on it? Go ahead.
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Yvonne: Well, it made me think
about the harlot from Babylon.
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James: Yes...
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Yvonne: And these women...
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this is
referring to virgin so...
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uncorrupted...
you know... pure...
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James: A pure women in
white. Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Do we see a pure woman in
white in the Book of Revelation.
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Yvonne: We do...
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James: Yeah, we saw one in
Revelation chapter 12 verse 1,
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now we haven't gotten there yet
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because we're
skipping up to 14...
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only because we're trying to
identify the group of 144,000
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but go back to 2nd
Corinthians chapter 11
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and read here now,
I'm going to tell you,
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we're going to have to spend
just a little bit of time here
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because there's some stuff
here that's really powerful
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in relation to
prophecy in Revelation.
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Yvonne: Good.
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James: Okay, so we're
going to read... Revelation...
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2nd Corinthians 11 and
Jason, if you could read for us
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verses 2...
Yvonne: I have it already.
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James: You have it...
you're already on it...
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okay, verses 2, 3 and 4.
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Yvonne: "For I am jealous
over you with godly jealousy:
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for I have
espoused you to one husband,
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that I may present you as
a chaste virgin to Christ. "
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James: Ah ha... now let's
stop there for just a second.
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Yvonne: Yes... James:
So there's the word...
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Paul is actually using the word
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he's talking to
believers in Corinth...
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but he's talking to believers,
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this epistle written to
Corinth is for everyone,
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even us, and he's saying,
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"I want you to be a
virgin for Christ... "
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now this is not in the end
of time... the elite group...
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this is everyone,
okay, this is everyone,
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then... what does he say?
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Yvonne: Then he says,
"But I fear, lest by any means,
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as the serpent beguiled
Eve through his subtilty,
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so your minds
should be corrupted
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from the simplicity
that is in Christ. "
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James: Now... another...
just hold on just a second there
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we've already picked up one
word "virgins" Revelation 14...
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now, we're picking up another
word from the Book of Revelation
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did you catch it... the
serpent. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Where's
that in Revelation?
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Revelation 12...
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the woman is presented and
then there's this dragon...
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that old serpent... the
devil... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: So do you
see... the... okay...
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we got to make those
connections right here,
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you've got the
serpent, you've got the virgin,
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okay, now we get
to the punch line.
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Yvonne: And it says,
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"that I may present you as
a chaste virgin to Christ. "
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Back here in
Revelation, it says,
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"they have not been
defiled with women... "
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James: Right, now verse 4...
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Yvonne: "For if he that
cometh preacheth another Jesus,
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whom we have not preached,
or if ye receive another spirit,
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which ye have not
received, or another gospel,
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which ye have not accepted,
ye might well bear with him. "
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James: Okay, now look at this,
there's another phrase here,
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the gospel... in Revelation 14
we have the everlasting gospel.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: We have a
crossover right here,
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the Book of
Revelation is referring us
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back to 2nd Corinthians.
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It's talking about
people who could be deceived
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and that's another word
that's used in Revelation 13,
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who could be
deceived by another Jesus...
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another Jesus... do
you believe in Jesus?
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Yvonne: Oh yeah.
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James: What Jesus do you
believe in? Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Another gospel...
do you believe the gospel?
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What gospel do you believe in?
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Because there's
another one, I guess.
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In fact, there are preachers,
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Jason, verses 13
through 15, there are preachers
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preaching this other
gospel and this other Jesus.
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James: Look at
this, this is amazing.
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Jason: "For such
are false apostles,
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deceitful workers,
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transforming themselves
into the apostles of Christ.
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And no marvel; for
Satan himself is transformed
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into an angel of light.
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Therefore it is no great thing
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if his ministers
also be transformed
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as the ministers
of righteousness;
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whose end shall be
according to their works. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Now this takes
us to the lamb-like beast,
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we haven't gotten there yet,
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the beast with lamb-like horns
who becomes the false prophet
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all of this... all of
this we're going to unpack this
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later too... but all of
this is telling us, basically,
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that to be a virgin
is to be among those
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who hold the
gospel of Jesus Christ,
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who follow Jesus, who
are filled with His spirit
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and are not deceived by
the devil and his ministers
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and false
prophets and false Christs,
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and that's the whole
focus so... so we've identified
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what it means to be a
first fruit... born of God,
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born again what it
means to be a virgin,
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a woman that is pure and holy
to the gospel of Jesus Christ
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following Him and
having His spirit...
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it applies to
everyone... across the board.
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Ivor: I just want to add
to that particular thought,
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if you go into
the Book of Proverbs,
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this... this adds a
really interesting view
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in terms of the... the...
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being a chaste
virgin versus being defiled,
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in Proverbs 31,
beginning with verse 31,
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I've... when I hear...
when you hear Proverbs 31,
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what do you think
of? The virtuous woman...
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the virtuous woman, I'm
going to tell you something,
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that the virtuous
woman... a lot of people...
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a lot of women especially...
read this and they're like...
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"Oh man! and I can't do... what?
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this is all the
virtuous woman does?"
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And yes, in a
sense it is a description
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of the virtuous woman but
I think in a greater sense,
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this is a description
of the church of Christ.
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James: Yeah,
absolutely. Yvonne: Ah...
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Ivor: This is what
Christ does, you know,
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while her household
sleeps, she's up making bread,
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bread... you know,
she's... she's gathering...
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linen and all these
things so when you read this
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it's very powerful but
I want you to check out
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how the chapter
starts, and it says,
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"The words of king Lemuel,
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the prophecy that
his mother taught him. "
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The what? Yvonne: Prophecy...
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James: It's symbolic.
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Ivor: A what? Prophecy?
But then it goes on... it says,
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"What, my son? and
what, the son of my womb?
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and what, the son of my vows?
Give not thy strength unto... "
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Ivor: What? All: women
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Ivor: "women, nor that
which destroyeth... " who?
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All: "kings... "
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Ivor: Remember, in the
Book of Revelation says,
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"We are kings... " right?
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so what is Satan trying to do?
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He's trying to destroy kings...
and how is he going to do it?
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He's going to do
it through "women... "
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whatever that means.. you see,
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through
deception, through guile,
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so notice what
it goes on to say,
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"It is not for kings, O Lemuel,
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it is not for
kings to drink... " what?
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All: wine... Ivor: "wine...
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nor for princes strong drink:
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Lest they drink, and... "
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All: "forget the law... "
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Ivor: "forget... lest
they drink, and forget... "
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James:
Remember... don't forget...
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"remember the Sabbath
day to keep it holy. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... Ivor: Yes.
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James: Which actually...
the word "remember" means
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"to mark" in Ezekiel
they are "marked... "
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they are
sealed, they are marked.
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Ivor: Yeah, when you
said "remember something"
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you are saying, "mark it down...
mark it in your mind... "
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the teacher will
say, "write it down... "
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people forget, paper does not...
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"mark ye... mark ye... "
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yeah, absolutely,
so, again we're seeing
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you know what?
This... Revelation 14...
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or those first few
verses are demonstrating...
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and showing to us people
who avoid the false teachings,
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the false gospels
that are being presented.
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This is only one gospel, really,
it's the everlasting gospel
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which is introduced
in the very next verse,
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Revelation 14:6...
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James: So look
at... looking at this
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we have, one more, I
think, characteristic...
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it kind of ties together, they
have no guile in their mouths
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Revelation 14 says, "For
they are without fault... "
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how do... you know...
when you think about that,
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when you think
about being without fault,
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this is where a
lot of people just say,
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"this has got to be the
final generation only... "
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because look at
all the fields...
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even people who
were... who were saved,
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you know, even the Reformers...
they had their faults,
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I mean, they had their problems
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and I think the reason
why we think that way is
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because we have a
misunderstanding of the gospel
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and the reason why we have a
misunderstanding of the gospel
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is because we think that
God does a certain amount
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and we do a certain
amount and then... you know...
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if we... and everything...
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no, we have the
righteousness of Jesus Christ
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in every single generation
and that's the only way
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anyone ever gets into heaven,
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it is His righteousness,
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so the complete
package is in Jesus,
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now, our part is to put
our faith and trust in Him
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as we put our
faith and trust in Him,
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He presents us
faultless, and I love...
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the book that I love on this,
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the chapter that I love on
this is Hebrews chapter 11,
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you'll never read
it the same again,
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it's the Faith Chapter
and here's why I like it,
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I'm just going to refer to
it... here's why I like it,
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all of the
faithful of past generations
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that are
mentioned in that chapter
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are mentioned without fault,
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it talks about how Noah
preached for 120 years...
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doesn't say that he ever
drank wine and got drunk...
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it talks about how
Abraham went out...
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didn't know where he was going,
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it doesn't say that he
lied about his sister...
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his wife being his
sister twice. Yvonne: Right.
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James: It says,
Moses... you know...
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he forsook the pleasures
of sin for a season and...
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and suffered with
the people of God,
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it doesn't say that
he killed the Egyptian
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and put him in the sand,
there is nothing negative in it,
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all of the
failures of God's people
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have been removed and all
you see is "without fault...
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without fault,
without fault," why?
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because it's the faith
chapter. Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: In fact, if you
want to understand the judgment,
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the Investigative Judgment,
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Hebrews 11 is
where you need to go,
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Hebrews 11 is what we look like
in the Investigative Judgment
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when we put our trust
in Jesus... by faith...
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if we have our faith in
Jesus, then, guess what?
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Our names come up and
guess what it looks like?
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Everything that we did right
and nothing that we did wrong.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:14:02.40\00:14:03.74
James: Hebrews 11 is
the Investigative Judgment
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when we put our faith
in Jesus... by faith...
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so, when it says,
"they stand without fault"
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this is the condition of
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every single one of
the redeemed in Christ.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:14:14.25\00:14:15.58
Ivor: Well and let
me... let me add to this that
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the "standing
without fault" comes
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as a direct result of
the Investigative Judgment
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because it is in the
Investigative Judgment
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which talks about
the cleansing, you know,
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the blotting out of sins,
this is what's being blotted out
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all the sins that have
gone beforehand to the judgment
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because we have put
our trust in Christ,
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we have confessed, forsaken,
turned away from those sins
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and God says, "that
blood cancels out... "
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so in that you have
a Hebrews 11 picture
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because you have done
what Satan refused to do
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which was repent, confess,
so, they stand without fault
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not because
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they had never fallen or
never sinned in their lives,
00:15:02.06\00:15:04.07
they stand
without fault because,
00:15:04.10\00:15:06.10
through Christ, they
were able to gain victory
00:15:06.13\00:15:09.87
and through Christ the
things that they had done
00:15:09.90\00:15:12.31
that's... were...
outside of His character
00:15:12.34\00:15:15.31
because they've
confessed and repented
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turned away from those sins,
those sins are blotted out.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: And that's been something
that's been available...
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so when you go back to the
fifth seal and the sixth seal...
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the fifth seal are
those who have died,
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how long... before you
judge, and what are they given?
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white robes... their
sins have been forgiven,
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they're going to be
without fault before the throne,
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Revelation's...
the sixth seal...
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those who are the
judgment that is to come,
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those who... when the
judgment actually begins
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they are also given white robes,
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you cannot have a white robe
unless you're without fault,
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so from Adam, all the way down
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through all the generations,
all who've accepted Christ
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will stand before
the throne without fault.
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James: Faultless,
absolutely faultless.
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Yvonne: Because of
Christ and His sacrifice.
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Ivor: Because of
Christ and His righteousness.
00:16:02.92\00:16:04.99
James: And that's exactly what
it says in the Book of Jude,
00:16:05.03\00:16:06.93
the Jude is the book,
right before Revelation,
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notice what it says
here, in Jude verse 24
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because it's only...
it's not like chapters,
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it's just one chapter
so it's verse 24 Jude,
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it says, "Now, unto
him... " talking about Christ,
00:16:17.71\00:16:20.14
"that is able to
keep you from falling,
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and to present you faultless
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before the presence of
his glory with exceeding joy,
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To the only wise God our
Savior, be glory and majesty,
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dominion and power,
both now and forever. Amen. "
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Now, I really love this
verse and here's why I love it,
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it you go back just a
couple of verses it says,
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verse 22, "And
some have compassion,
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making a difference:
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And others say with fear,
pulling them out of the fire;
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hating even the
garment spotted by the flesh. "
00:16:47.44\00:16:48.80
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:16:48.84\00:16:50.17
James: There are two
groups, there are two emphases
00:16:50.21\00:16:53.91
that the gospel
has intention, okay,
00:16:53.94\00:16:56.38
He is able to
keep us from falling
00:16:56.44\00:16:58.35
and He's able to
present us faultless,
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so we have the power of
God to keep us from falling.
00:17:00.28\00:17:02.98
We have people who hate
sin and they're just like...
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"oooh I really
don't want to touch that
00:17:05.72\00:17:07.22
and we're going to
overcome this," okay,
00:17:07.26\00:17:08.66
and then on the other side
you have people who understand
00:17:08.72\00:17:10.76
that we're weak and
faulty and we make mistakes
00:17:10.79\00:17:13.60
and they have compassion
and that mercy and compassion
00:17:13.63\00:17:17.23
actually compels us and
draws us and in the next verse
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it says... and who is able
to present you faultless...
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in other words, you have faults,
00:17:23.34\00:17:24.67
but He's going to
present you faultless...
00:17:24.71\00:17:26.04
the fact that He can
present you faultless implies
00:17:26.07\00:17:28.08
that you have faults...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:28.11\00:17:29.44
James: you see what I'm
saying? Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:29.48\00:17:30.81
James: Someone can
present you faultless,
00:17:30.85\00:17:32.18
"Why would I need
someone to present me faultless?
00:17:32.21\00:17:33.55
I mean, you
know, I'm fine, right?"
00:17:33.58\00:17:35.28
Yvonne: Right.
00:17:35.32\00:17:36.65
James: We got faults, so
you see the tension there?
00:17:36.69\00:17:38.49
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:38.52\00:17:39.85
James: You can hear someone
00:17:39.89\00:17:41.22
who can keep you
from falling on one hand,
00:17:41.26\00:17:44.09
and who can also
present you faultless
00:17:44.13\00:17:46.63
because you got a
few faults, you see,
00:17:46.66\00:17:48.53
we want people who
can show compassion
00:17:48.56\00:17:51.13
because you've got those faults,
00:17:51.17\00:17:52.50
but also who will
pull you out of the fire
00:17:52.53\00:17:54.90
and they hate the thing
that you are involved in,
00:17:54.94\00:17:57.31
and that's the tension we
have to have in that gospel
00:17:57.34\00:17:59.57
because we can't be
sitting here saying,
00:17:59.61\00:18:01.18
"Yeah, Jesus has got us,
so it doesn't really matter"
00:18:01.21\00:18:03.95
no... no we need to be
diligent about overcoming
00:18:03.98\00:18:06.72
but at the same
time, we can't just say,
00:18:06.75\00:18:08.18
"Well, there's no
way I can be saved,
00:18:08.22\00:18:09.55
I'm not good
enough to be saved because
00:18:09.58\00:18:10.92
look at all the faults
I've got, there's no way,
00:18:10.95\00:18:12.92
I'm just going to
have to give up... "
00:18:12.95\00:18:14.79
no... wait a
minute... you've got someone
00:18:14.82\00:18:16.32
who can present you faultless,
00:18:16.36\00:18:17.83
in spite of your faults,
he can present you faultless,
00:18:17.86\00:18:19.53
I love that
beautiful tension right there.
00:18:19.59\00:18:21.30
Yvonne: Yeah...
00:18:21.33\00:18:22.66
Ivor: I think
it's... well, go ahead...
00:18:22.70\00:18:24.03
Yvonne: I was... I
love that fact that
00:18:24.07\00:18:25.40
our God is so faithful that
"he who hath begun a good work
00:18:25.43\00:18:30.54
in us will
continue to perform it"
00:18:30.57\00:18:32.54
it's not going to stop
until the day of Christ Jesus,
00:18:32.57\00:18:35.74
it's not going to
stop, it's just going to...
00:18:35.78\00:18:37.88
He's going to... if He
makes himself responsible,
00:18:37.91\00:18:40.65
if we yield to Him, and
that's... that's the key...
00:18:40.68\00:18:43.39
I read this book...
00:18:43.42\00:18:45.02
Morris Venden's
book a long time ago,
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"Salvation by
Faith and Your Will"
00:18:47.16\00:18:49.16
and the thing that
stuck out to me the most was,
00:18:49.22\00:18:53.36
there's really nothing
I can "do" to be saved,
00:18:53.40\00:18:57.53
Jesus has done it, all I can do
00:18:57.57\00:18:59.90
is give Him His time,
00:18:59.93\00:19:01.60
give Him time to
do His work in me,
00:19:01.67\00:19:05.07
other than that...
because, in giving Him His time,
00:19:05.11\00:19:08.74
His Word will transform me,
so that's really all I can do,
00:19:08.81\00:19:13.52
other than that
there's not much I can do
00:19:13.55\00:19:16.72
because it's been done for me
00:19:16.75\00:19:18.69
and Jesus holds
Himself responsible for me
00:19:18.75\00:19:22.22
but I have to...
and tell me if I'm...
00:19:22.26\00:19:25.69
if you guys are on
the same page with this.
00:19:25.73\00:19:28.10
James: Okay.
00:19:28.13\00:19:29.96
Yvonne: The only thing I can do
is give Him time and attention,
00:19:30.00\00:19:34.04
by being "intentional"
about my time with the Lord
00:19:34.07\00:19:38.37
and that way,
He can transform me
00:19:38.41\00:19:41.31
and I can be
conformed to His character,
00:19:41.34\00:19:43.41
other than
that... what can I do?
00:19:43.45\00:19:46.01
James: It sounds
like you're saying to me
00:19:46.08\00:19:48.82
"there's nothing I
can do to be saved,
00:19:48.85\00:19:51.52
but if I don't do something,
I'm going to be lost... "
00:19:51.55\00:19:54.29
Yvonne: Yes...
00:19:54.32\00:19:56.39
James: There's nothing I
can do, I can't save myself,
00:19:56.42\00:19:59.49
but I've got to do something
00:19:59.53\00:20:01.46
and that focus that
you're talking about,
00:20:01.50\00:20:04.07
is the key... it is
the secret of success
00:20:04.10\00:20:06.60
and in fact, it is the
theme of the Book of Revelation,
00:20:06.63\00:20:11.57
let me just give
you two references.
00:20:11.61\00:20:13.04
James: Reference
number one, no man in heaven,
00:20:13.07\00:20:15.51
no man in earth and
no man under the earth
00:20:15.54\00:20:18.15
can take the Book and
read it and unseal it,
00:20:18.18\00:20:20.75
the elder says, "Weep not,
00:20:20.82\00:20:24.52
behold the Lion of
the tribe of Judah...
00:20:24.55\00:20:27.16
behold the Lion of
the tribe of Judah"
00:20:27.19\00:20:29.69
I can't prevail,
no man in heaven...
00:20:29.72\00:20:32.16
but I can "behold the
Lion of the tribe of Judah,
00:20:32.19\00:20:34.03
the root of
David, He has prevailed"
00:20:34.10\00:20:35.43
and in the second
verse, is Revelation 14,
00:20:35.46\00:20:38.77
"they follow the
Lamb wherever He goes. "
00:20:38.80\00:20:41.70
Yvonne: Yes...
00:20:41.74\00:20:43.07
James: We are... we
are called to follow,
00:20:43.10\00:20:45.44
Jesus said, "If I be
lifted up I will draw all men...
00:20:45.47\00:20:47.38
behold the Lamb of God,
follow that... look and live,"
00:20:47.41\00:20:48.94
these are all the phrases,
00:20:48.98\00:20:50.31
Old and New Testament,
these are all the phrases...
00:20:50.35\00:20:51.98
Old Testament... they
look forward to the Lamb,
00:20:52.01\00:20:53.65
New Testament... you
look back at the Lamb,
00:20:53.68\00:20:55.45
we all center in the
Lamb, "And by beholding... "
00:20:55.48\00:20:57.59
2nd Corinthians 3:18,
00:20:57.62\00:20:58.95
"By beholding we
become changed... "
00:20:58.99\00:21:00.32
there's a Law... of our
spiritual and physical nature
00:21:00.36\00:21:02.29
and Satan knows that Law
00:21:02.32\00:21:03.66
so when you're
driving down the road,
00:21:03.69\00:21:05.46
the billboards... car radio...
the media... the phone...
00:21:05.49\00:21:08.93
everything... advertisement,
all kinds of garbage and stuff
00:21:08.96\00:21:12.33
coming at us to try to transform
us into the beastly image,
00:21:12.37\00:21:15.97
into the image of our nature
do you have a thought Ivor,
00:21:16.00\00:21:18.77
because I'll keep going if
you don't have anything to say.
00:21:18.81\00:21:21.54
Ivor: I was going to
share that the end result
00:21:21.58\00:21:28.28
of the 144,000... remember,
00:21:28.32\00:21:31.25
it began with
Revelation chapter 6 verse 1,
00:21:31.29\00:21:36.46
there's a rider
on a white horse,
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that rider is
called the Word of God,
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it is by the Word of
God that we overcome,
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so he is showing the end product
of what the Word of God can do
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the Word of God can
allow you to overcome
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persecution... the red horse,
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"Oh man, they're
persecuting me because they...
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I'm trying to keep the
Sabbath and they're... "
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no, God says, "You're
still on the white horse
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you will overcome
that" compromise...
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I'm so used to compromising,
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one day I'm up,
the other day I'm down,
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God is saying, "Listen to me,
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if you stay on that
white horse, I will give...
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I can give you
victory over compromise... "
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in other words, all those...
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think these
other horses as hurdles
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and the white horse is
just, hooo, hooo, hooo,
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and he's getting
us to the other side,
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our goal is heaven,
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our method of getting
there... the white horse,
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between us... between heaven,
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between... how am
I going to say it?
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between heaven and our
journey are these three horses,
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that are trying to stop us
either through persecution,
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through compromise or just
through total denial of God,
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God says, "You stay on me,
you stay on the white horse... "
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James: "I'll take you through. "
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Ivor: "and I will
take you through. "
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Yvonne: Wow... good...
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Ivor: So, that's
victory not only in a...
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in a broad sense but
really in a very personal sense
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like, in your life, "Man, I
used to be a drug addict... "
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"I used to be a drunk... "
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"I used to be
addicted to these things... "
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and God says, "Look, get
on... get on this horse... "
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and you know what happens?
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We're on the horse,
yeah... we get victory...
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yes... we fall off the horse,
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James: You take
your hands off the horse.
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Ivor: You take your
hands off the reins...
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you know... am I
now like... oh man!
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God says, "Get back
up, get back up quickly
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before one of these
other horses comes and get you,
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get back up and get on me... "
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"But Lord, I'm
depressed and discouraged... "
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"no... get back
up... and get on me... "
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and we get back
up and get on Him...
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and He takes us
again... Yvonne: Oh...
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Ivor: So, those who are
lost are those who got...
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who fell off that white horse
and then decided to stay on,
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they decided to let
one of those other horses
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come and rule
their lives, so God says,
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"Look, I don't care
how many times you fall,
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if you keep
getting back up and saying,
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"Lord, help me with
this, help me with this... "
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I'm going to help you with this,
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I'm going to
bring you the victory
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so, don't be discouraged,
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I'm going to get
you to the other side.
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Yvonne: Look how
encouraging that is...
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James: Two Bible verses on that,
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"A just man falls seven
times, and rises up again... "
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and seven is
complete or perfect...
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and then the other
one is, Jesus says,
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"He that comes to me, I
will in no wise cast out... "
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Yvonne: Yes...
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James: If we only
had that one verse,
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that would be enough to
get us into the kingdom.
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Ivor: So, He's not saying,
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"Hey, you can just keep
sinning and repenting and... "
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you know, that's not the gospel,
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the purpose of the
gospel is not "Hey, Jesus...
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He's going to forgive me
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so I'm just going to do
this again and again... "
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Yvonne: Right... right...
James: That's not good news.
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Ivor: Exactly,
that's not good news.
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James: That's depressing.
Ivor: That's depressing
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for the drug addict... that's
depressing for the alcoholic,
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James: The same
life... Ivor: Exactly.
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Yvonne: There's no overcoming.
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Ivor: There's no overcoming.
James: And that's depressing.
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Ivor: And what do the
seven churches tell us?
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"To him that overcomes,
overcomes, overcomes, overcomes"
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James: So look at this in
the context... oh, go ahead.
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Yvonne: I was just...
that it's so exciting to me
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because there are so many
people struggling with sin
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and they say,
"Man, I just can't...
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I just can't get
past this, I just can't...
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you know, I'm okay
here but then I fall here
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and then I don't want
to talk to God over here
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because I've fallen and so
He's not going to accept me back
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because I'm too bad... "
no, what you are just saying
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is that no matter
how many times you fall,
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you don't go into
it planning to fall
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but if you do, you ask God
"to please help me with this,"
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it is a struggle...
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for some
people... we cannot succumb,
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you have to
continue the struggle
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for some people,
they will live in...
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for example... an
alternative lifestyle...
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"that's who I
am... it's not a sin...
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don't say it's a sin... "
James: I've tried... I've tried.
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Yvonne: No, God is
saying, "I've got you...
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I'll bring you
through you might fall,
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I'll bring you through but
you have to stay on the horse
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you fall off, get back
on... they can abide in me. "
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James: Same
thing, same truth yeah.
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Jason: They have to make
the choice, I think about when,
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I believe it was Peter
that stepped out of the boat,
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had his eyes on
Christ and then he was like,
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"Wow! I'm walking on water...
" the next thing you know...
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bloop, bloop,
bloop, bloop, bloop,
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"Jesus save me... " and...
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James: And what happened
when he said, Jesus save me?"
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Yvonne: He got back up
they were able to save...
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James: Jesus was
right there in that moment,
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grabbing his hand and pulling
out of that bloop, bloop, bloop.
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I mean it was instant and
that's what God is saying,
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so Peter... the way we think
about that sometimes is like
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"Oh yeah, I can come out... "
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and we're scared... we come
out and we walk on the water
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and we're like,
"Whoa, look at me... "
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and we fall... we're like...
"Oh, I shouldn't have done that,
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oh, I'll try to keep
going here for a little while
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and if I can keep
my head above the water
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for maybe a couple of minutes,
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maybe then, Jesus
will come and save me. "
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All: Laughing...
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James: You're not
going to keep your head
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above the water for
a couple of minutes,
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the only way you're ever
going to keep your head...
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and get your
head above the water,
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anything above the water is
for Jesus to come and save you,
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there's nothing you can do
by yourself, absolutely nothing.
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So we've run out of time.
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Yvonne: I can't believe it.
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James: Believe
it, it's good stuff,
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we're going to keep going,
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I wanted to just
give a reference...
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1st John chapter
2:1 and 2 basically,
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God doesn't want us
to sin but if we do sin,
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we have an
advocate with the Father...
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Yvonne: Jesus
Christ the righteous.
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James: It's very, very
important Yvonne: Amen.
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James: We also
want to tell Viewers,
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how they can send
in their questions.
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Jason: They can send
an e-mail to sss@3abn. org
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sss as in Salvation
in Symbols and Signs.
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James: All right, you heard it
here and you heard it from Jason
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Yvonne, would you pray us out?
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Yvonne: Yes, yes,
"Lord thank you so very much,
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oh! thank you God that
you make yourself responsible
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for us as long as we
abide in you, thank you
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and be with us,
continue to guide and direct,
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we pray in Jesus' name, amen. "
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All: "Amen... "
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James: So we are going
to get into the seal of God,
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we are going to be
able to do that subject
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and we're going to do it next,
we're just going to dive in
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and I've got some verses
that we're just going to share
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and then we're going
to just expand upon them
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and probably do a
little bit of, I don't know,
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summary at the
same time, we'll see...
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Ivor: We'll see
where it goes. James: Yeah.
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