Okay we are back and we
left off with a cliffhanger
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Ivor was getting
ready to pour out on us
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and then we're going to
move into more of the 144,000...
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this is kind of like a Part
2... because we need a Part 2...
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because this is a big subject
and it's an important subject
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it's a question a lot of people
ask... who are the 144,000...
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are these talking
about literal Jews
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because there are the 12 tribes
there or... is this spiritual
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or is it... is the
number symbolic or is it literal
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or how does that
all... I think we get...
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we've gotten a good start on it,
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we've really cracked open
and started to understand it
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but we really
need to nail this down
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there's more than we can see
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because there's a
whole other chapter
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or at least another
section in chapter... chapter 14
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that describes a
144,000, what about all of that?
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so we need to identify
all of that and bring it in
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to chapter 7 here even
though we're going ahead
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I still think it's
important to bring that in
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so Yvonne, would you start
us out with a word of prayer
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and then we'll
throw it over to Ivor.
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Yvonne: Absolutely...
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"Father God, thank you
so very much for bringing us
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together again
to study your Word,
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and help us to be
able to understand
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and apply what we've learned,
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we bless your name, Lord,
You are welcome in this place
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in Jesus' name. Amen. "
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All: "Amen... "
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James: All
right, Ivor, take it...
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Ivor: All right... so we
are in Revelation chapter 14...
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James: Okay... Revelation 14...
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Ivor: And we're going to
take a look at verses 1 to 5
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which is the second
description of the 144,000
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and so it said in
chapter 14 and verse 1,
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"And I looked, and, lo, a
Lamb stood on the mount Zion,
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and with him an hundred
forty and four thousand,
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having his Father's name
written in their foreheads. "
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Just make a
mental note of that...
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the 144,000 have the
Father's name in their foreheads
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so the name of the
Father would be synonymous
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with the seal... okay,
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and so it goes on to say,
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"And I heard a
voice from heaven,
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as the voice of many waters,
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and as the voice
of a great thunder:
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and I heard the voice of harpers
harping with their harps:
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And they sung as it were a
new song before the throne,
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and before the four
beasts, and the elders:
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and no man could learn that song
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but the hundred and
forty and four thousand,
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which were
redeemed from the earth.
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These are they which
were not defiled with women;
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for they are virgins.
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These are they which follow
the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
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These were redeemed from
among men, being the... " what?
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"firstfruits unto
God and to the Lamb.
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And in their mouth
was found no guile:
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for they are without fault
before the throne of God. "
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So a couple of things
we want to look at here
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and one of the
first things I mention
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is the fact that the Bible says,
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"These were they which were
redeemed from the earth... "
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okay, so this
group... the 144,000...
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according to
this verse represents
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those that are
redeemed from the earth.
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So we've got two options,
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either 144,000 literal people
are redeemed from the earth,
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or we've got a great
multitude standing before God.
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Do you see what I'm
saying? Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: They're
identified as a 144,000.
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Ivor: Yeah, they're
identified as 144,000...
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either the number is
literal or it's symbolic.
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Ivor: So, if it's literal...
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then would mean
that only, right?
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144,000 people would
be redeemed from the earth
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but we know that's not the case
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because we've already
seen in Revelation 7:9,
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that there was a great multitude
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now, let's go to
Isaiah 51 verse 11
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I want you to read this
verse, Isaiah 51 and verse 11
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and whichever one of
you finds that first,
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just go ahead and read that.
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All finding the verse...
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Yvonne: "Therefore the redeemed
of the Lord shall return,
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and come with singing unto Zion;
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and everlasting joy
shall be upon their head... "
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Ivor: Okay,
that's good right there,
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"therefore the... " who?
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Yvonne: Redeemed of the Lord...
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Ivor: "redeemed of the
Lord shall go... " where?
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Yvonne: Return...
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Ivor: To where? Yvonne: Zion...
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James: Mount Zion...
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Ivor: With
singing... Yvonne: singing...
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James: Yeah... singing...
that's it, right there.
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Ivor: Okay, so, again,
either this group is saying
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only 144,000 are redeemed,
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or the 144,000 represents
the "redeemed of the Lord,"
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so, let's just say this then,
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that the 144,000 is a symbolic
number for the redeemed.
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James: All right...
since we've said that...
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we need to then
identify what it means
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that they have the Father's
name that they're firstfruits,
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that they're
virgins, they have no guile,
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they stand without faults
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because a lot of times we
can take those characteristics
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and try to apply them to
an elite group of people,
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not everyone is going
to stand without fault
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before the throne of God always,
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not everyone is going to
be the "first fruits... "
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not all the redeemed
will be the "first fruits,"
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not all the redeemed
are going to be virgins,
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not all the
redeemed are going to have
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the Father's name
in their forehead...
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it's not just
the end-time people
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that have the name of
the Father on their forehead,
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these are the
questions that I receive
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and the questions that I've
had in relation to this subject
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so let's take
those down one by one,
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the first one I'd like to
look at is the Father's name,
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you said it's synonymous...
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you inferred "synonymous"
with the Seal of God
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and we need to do a whole
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'nother program about the
Seal of God in the next segment
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but I agree with that...
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I think that what
we have in Revelation 7
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is further
elaborating Revelation 14,
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the Seal of God is
the character of God,
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it's His name, that
word "name" means character
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it's His character and
of course, God's character
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is the transcript of His Law,
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"The Law of God... "
Matthew 22 is a Law of love
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and these guys are
filled with His Law...
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with His character...
the Ten Commandment Law...
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loving God and
loving our neighbor
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is reflected in their
foreheads, in their characters
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so, the character of
God... the name of God
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is that only going to be
on a few of the redeemed,
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an elect group of
redeemed or all the redeemed...
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going to be having that
character... that Law of God...
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are all the redeemed going to be
keeping the commandments of God
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in heaven... so to speak,
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I'd like us to look at one verse
again, it's in Revelation 22,
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going now to the "Eden restored"
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we're going to get a picture
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of what it's going to
look like in Eden restored...
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okay, in Eden
restored we have this verse
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Revelation 22 and Jason,
just start reading here...
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verse... start with verse 1...
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and let's read all
the way through verse 4.
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Jason: Okay... "And
he shewed me a pure river
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of water of
life, clear as crystal,
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proceeding out of the
throne of God and of the Lamb.
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In the midst of
the street of it,
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and on either side of the river,
was there the tree of life,
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which bare
twelve manner of fruits,
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and yielded her
fruit every month:
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and the leaves of the tree were
for the healing of the nations.
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And there shall
be no more curse:
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but the throne of
God and of the Lamb
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shall be in it; and his
servants shall serve him:
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And they shall see his face;
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and his name shall
be in their foreheads. "
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James: And there's a lot
here in this, first of all...
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you notice this...
there's some fruit there...
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never tasted like
this... Jason: I believe it.
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James: This is
going to be great.
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Yvonne: Every month it yields.
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James: Every
month... oooh... ooooh...
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and then, notice
it's talking about
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the throne of
God and the Lamb...
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"Who's going to be able to stand
before the throne and the Lamb?"
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was the question asked
in Revelation 6... okay...
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Jason: There's an
answer in Psalm chapter 1.
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James: There's an
answer in Psalm chapter 1.
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Jason: Let's go
there real quick.
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James: You go
there while we finish...
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I'll finish this thought,
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and then it says,
that His servants serve Him
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and that was the
picture of the great multitude,
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they're the ones that serve
Him and night in the temple
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in other words,
only with the redeemed,
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only the great
multitude, only the 144,000
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actually go into the
temple, the lost, the wicked...
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none of those... no
one can go into that temple
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unless they've been redeemed...
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unless they're a
part of the 144,000...
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Ivor: If you're not
a part of the 144,000
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you can't go into the temple.
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James:
Exactly... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: You can't go in...
but yet... the great multitude
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served Him in the
temple day and night.
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Yvonne: So angels... then...
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James: No, we're talking about
in relation with the redeemed
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from the earth.
Yvonne: Oh, okay, okay...
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James: Yeah...
yeah... the angels...
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we know they're in
there, God's in there,
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all the
unfallen... they're in there...
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but we're talking...
the context now is...
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Eden restored...
who from the earth
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is going to be able
to go in that temple?
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Is it just going to be
an elect group... lasting...
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or is it going
to be the redeemed?
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All the redeemed... are they
going to go into that temple?
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And then, notice what it
says here, it goes on to say,
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"And we shall see His face
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and His name shall
be in our foreheads. "
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Yvonne: In...
James: Yes... "in... "
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Yvonne: The difference
with this... these verses
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in Revelation and the verse
in Ezekiel that we just read
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of was it Isaiah?
Where we just read,
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it's going to be on the
forehead... that mark...
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James: Yeah, the Mark...
you're talking about Ezekiel 9.
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Yvonne: Ezekiel 9... but...
but this is "in" the forehead...
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James: Yeah.
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Yvonne: meaning
cognition... what we know...
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James: Right... our character,
how we're reflected, et cetera,
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now what Ezekiel's doing,
the emphasis that Ezekiel has
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is he is emphasizing protection
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from the "slaughtering" weapons,
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so he's emphasizing that on
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because the mark has to be
seen by the slaughtering angels,
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it's symbolic, you understand.
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Yvonne: Kind of
like the Passover...
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James: Yeah, yeah...
Yvonne: Right, ah ha...
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James: But the
inference is the same...
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it is God's character
that we are settled into
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or sealed into, so that we we're
protected from those four winds
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when they're let
loose. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: How many
people in eternity?
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How many of the redeemed
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are going to have His
name on their forehead?
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Ivor: All of them... so
what we're saying then is that
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the 144,000 is a representation
of the great multitude
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but the great
multitude are the redeemed
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from all ages. James: Right.
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Ivor: So the great
multitude would cover
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those crying under the altar
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from Abel on down
to that time period
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and those who
under the sixth seal
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would be ultimately
given white robes as well...
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James: Right, because they're
going to go through what the...
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the great... the...
Yvonne: Tribulation...
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James: Tribulation.
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Ivor: Absolutely,
absolutely, so the redeemed...
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let's say this way...
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"the 144,000 is the symbolic
name for God's church...
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God's redeemed... the
saved... throughout all ages"
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and I want to
demonstrate that there's a...
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I want to take you to three...
or two verses in the Scripture
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the first is the one
that we actually covered
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in a previous study
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and there was the
parable that you shared, James,
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about the sower and the seed
and the four different grounds
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and we saw that Christ
was the one sowing the seed
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and that you have
these four different grounds
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and the fourth
ground was the good ground.
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James: Yes, Matthew 13...
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Ivor: Matthew 13... and
those who received the seed
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or the Word... right,
bring forth much fruit,
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okay, so... so...
we compare that parable
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with the four
horses of Revelation...
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that's the four seals
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and we saw that the
rider on the white horse
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which represents the Word of God
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represents the going
forth of the Word of God
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in order to
prepare a people to stand.
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James: Right... Ivor:
Okay... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Now, in that parable
the end result was much fruit,
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much fruit... the Word
brings forth much fruit.
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What do we see the 144,000
being called in Revelation 14?
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Yvonne: First fruits...
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Ivor: They are
called the first fruits...
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they are the end product
of the Word of God going forth
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now I'm going to show you
something that's really amazing,
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so, go with me to Revelation 14
and I want you to notice this,
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while you're turning there,
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I want to share with
you just a little bit
00:11:50.57\00:11:53.74
about this
concept of first fruits,
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in the Book of Jeremiah 2
verse 3 the Bible says that
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Israel was
"holiness unto the Lord
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and the
firstfruits of his increase:
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all that devour
him shall offend;
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evil shall come upon them... "
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all right, so Israel is
here called the "firstfruits"
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but what are the
firstfruits about?
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Really just to summarize,
in the Old Testament...
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the first fruits were...
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were the offering that were
to be brought into the temple,
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James: Okay... Ivor: Now...
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you know some
people have this concept...
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James: Give them to God.
Ivor: Yeah, give them to God...
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some people have this
concept of second fruit
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but let me assure you that
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in the Bible there's no
real concept of "second fruits"
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it's just the fact that
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the second fruits
were allowed to be consumed
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by the people.
James: For temporal needs.
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Ivor: Yeah, but the first fruits
were taken into the temple...
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the second fruits
consumed. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: The second
fruits... consumed.
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James: We're talking
about second death now
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we're talking
about "consumed... "
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perish... lost... Yvonne: Ahh...
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Ivor: So watch this...
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James: what's preserved
is what goes into the temple
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and what's
lost... is what stays out.
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Ivor: So the first
fruits go into the temple
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now, notice Revelation
14, Revelation 14 again...
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we see the
description verses 1 through 5,
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we just read it,
notice verse 4 though
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latter part of verse 4, it says,
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"These were
redeemed from among men,
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being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb. "
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Right, this means these are
they that go into the temple
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now, all of a
sudden verse 6 switches...
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it's like you have
a whole new picture...
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you have the preaching of the
three angels' messages, right?
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James: Yes, "And I saw...
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Ivor: "And I saw
the first angel...
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another angel fly
in the midst of heaven,
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having the everlasting gospel"
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now why is it doing this?
I want you to notice this.
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James: White
horse rider right there.
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Ivor: Yeah, you got
the white horse rider...
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the everlasting
gospel so then you got
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the first angel's message,
the second angel's message,
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the third angel's message.
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James: I get where you're
going, I get where you're going.
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Ivor: now watch this...
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Yvonne: Ha ha ha ha
ha... come on now, come on now.
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James: If you can't do this,
I can finish it up for you...
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Yvonne: I love it, I love it.
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James: I can
finish it up for you.
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Yvonne: This is
good... oh, I'm getting chills.
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Ivor: I know we're
running out of time
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but I just got to
tell you in two minutes...
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James: We're not running
out of time... what do you mean
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we're running out of time?
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we've got all
year long to do this.
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Ivor: So watch this.
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James: We're in verse 14 now.
00:14:06.27\00:14:07.61
Ivor: Verse 14... "And I looked,
and behold a white cloud,
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and upon the cloud one
sat like unto the Son of man,
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having on his
head a golden crown,
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and in his hand... " what?
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Yvonne and Ivor:
"a sharp sickle... "
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Yvonne: For the
first fruits. Ivor: Yes...
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"And another angel
came out of the temple,
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crying with a loud voice
to him that sat on the cloud,
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Thrust in thy sickle, and reap:
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for the time is
come for thee to reap;
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for the... "
Yvonne: "harvest... "
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Ivor: "of the
earth is ripe. " Right?
00:14:33.94\00:14:35.70
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Right? So the Bible says,
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"he that sat on the cloud
thrust his sickle on the earth;
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and the earth was reaped. "
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Now, "another angel
came out of the temple
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which is in heaven, he
also having a sharp sickle.
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And another angel
came out from the altar,
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which had power over
fire; and cried with a loud cry
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to him that had the
sharp sickle, saying,
00:14:52.85\00:14:54.59
Thrust in thy sharp sickle,
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and gather the clusters
of the vine of the earth,
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for her grapes are fully ripe.
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And the angel thrust in
his sickle into the earth,
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and gathered the
vine of the earth,"
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and cast it where...?
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"into the great
winepress of the wrath of God. "
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So the first fruits... right...
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are they that are
seen in the temple
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standing on Mount Zion.
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The "Second Fruits... "
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James: And they're
reaped by the Son of God
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when He comes at
the second coming.
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Ivor: Absolutely, the second
fruits are left upon the earth
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to be consumed...
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James: Right, by
the wrath of God.
00:15:27.42\00:15:28.76
Ivor: So, here's the question,
00:15:28.79\00:15:30.13
who is a part of
the first fruits?
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All the redeemed...
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James: This is now...
00:15:37.33\00:15:38.70
this is really good, I
got to jump right in here,
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this is why Jesus
said in John chapter 3,
00:15:40.20\00:15:43.47
"Except ye be born again,
00:15:43.51\00:15:45.54
you cannot see
the kingdom of God"
00:15:45.57\00:15:47.64
you cannot enter
into the kingdom of God...
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why? because look at James,
just back a few pages here,
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I want you to get
your verse in Psalm one...
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if you go
there, look at James...
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this is really...
this is really powerful
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in its connection
with what Ivor said,
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James chapter one and read
for us, Yvonne, read for us,
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because, we still got
Jason holding on in Psalm one,
00:16:06.19\00:16:10.17
read for us in James chapter
1, read for us verse 18...
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Yvonne: "Of his own will begat
he us with the word of truth,
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that we should be a kind of
firstfruits of his creatures. "
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James: What are we
to be? Firstfruits...
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now, in order to
be a "firstfruits,"
00:16:25.11\00:16:27.62
according to James 1:18,
00:16:27.65\00:16:28.98
what do we have to
experience to be a firstfruit?
00:16:29.02\00:16:31.72
Yvonne: Be born again...
00:16:31.75\00:16:33.09
James: Be born again...
00:16:33.12\00:16:34.46
"Of his own will
begat he us with... " what?
00:16:34.49\00:16:35.82
the word of truth,
the 12 Shewbread...
00:16:35.86\00:16:38.76
the Table of
Shewbread... twelve... okay...
00:16:38.79\00:16:42.23
Jesus says,
"Unless you're born again,
00:16:42.26\00:16:44.47
you cannot see
the kingdom of heaven,
00:16:44.50\00:16:47.34
only the 144,000
go into the temple,
00:16:47.37\00:16:50.17
only the 144,000...
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because they're
the first fruits...
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what does it mean
"they're the firstfruits?"
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They've been born again,
00:16:54.81\00:16:56.14
only those who are born
again are going to win...
00:16:56.18\00:16:58.78
they're the only
ones that can stand...
00:16:58.81\00:17:00.78
okay... get us that verse...
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Jason: Psalm
chapter 1 verse 5 says,
00:17:03.05\00:17:06.42
"Therefore the ungodly
shall not stand in the judgment,
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nor sinners in the
congregation of the righteous. "
00:17:09.46\00:17:12.36
So, when it says,
00:17:12.39\00:17:13.76
"only the 144,000 are
going to the temple... "
00:17:13.80\00:17:16.50
and in Revelation 7, he
sees the great multitude
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that no man can number and
John is asked by the elder,
00:17:19.20\00:17:22.74
"Who are these?" And he
says, "I don't know... "
00:17:22.77\00:17:24.21
and he says... the elder says...
00:17:24.24\00:17:25.71
"Well, these are they that come
out of the great tribulation
00:17:25.74\00:17:28.34
they've washed their
robes in the blood of the lamb
00:17:28.38\00:17:29.71
and made them
white and they serve God
00:17:29.74\00:17:31.48
'in His temple... '"
00:17:31.51\00:17:35.38
see, the redeemed only...
00:17:35.45\00:17:38.05
the 144,000 only
because they're the firstfruits
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because they've been born again
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because they have been
eating the Word of God.
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Ivor: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:43.96\00:17:45.36
Yvonne: Now, the... the...
passage you just quoted...
00:17:45.39\00:17:50.30
sounds as though they've been
through the great tribulation
00:17:50.37\00:17:53.84
because they...
so... how does that...?
00:17:53.87\00:17:57.51
James: Let's go back
now to another verse...
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Ivor: As you're going
there let me mention this,
00:18:01.11\00:18:05.15
if I were to say to you,
"the church has experienced
00:18:05.18\00:18:08.48
martyrdom... " would
that be... would that be true?
00:18:08.52\00:18:11.79
Yvonne: Yes. Ivor:
If I were to say to you
00:18:11.82\00:18:13.56
"the church is going to go
through the time of trouble,"
00:18:13.59\00:18:15.96
would that be
true? Yvonne: Yes...
00:18:15.99\00:18:17.33
Ivor: Yes, both
can't... in other words...
00:18:17.36\00:18:19.89
the only way that both of
those things could be true,
00:18:19.93\00:18:22.30
is if we look at different parts
00:18:22.36\00:18:24.33
and different
errors of the church,
00:18:24.37\00:18:26.07
in other words...
James: And see it as a body...
00:18:26.10\00:18:28.67
Ivor: And see it as a body...
00:18:28.70\00:18:30.17
right, so, there are
those who would have died
00:18:30.21\00:18:34.21
and been resurrected... right...
00:18:34.28\00:18:36.28
and who receive
the seal of God...
00:18:36.34\00:18:38.31
who have the white robes,
00:18:38.35\00:18:39.81
remember the
martyrs under the altar
00:18:39.85\00:18:41.72
they are given white robes
so they're a part of this group
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there will be those who are
alive and will not taste death,
00:18:45.59\00:18:49.36
when Christ comes again,
they are part of the redeemed
00:18:49.39\00:18:53.26
part of the 144,000... right,
00:18:53.29\00:18:56.10
but as we're
looking at this evidence
00:18:56.13\00:18:58.50
we're seeing that, you know,
00:18:58.53\00:19:00.24
God doesn't have...
you know, it's like this...
00:19:00.27\00:19:02.97
God doesn't have like,
144,000 favorite people
00:19:03.00\00:19:05.57
like super
duper, "I like these...
00:19:05.61\00:19:08.31
but then... the rest of
you... yeah, you know...
00:19:08.34\00:19:11.58
you... you're the
great multitude... "
00:19:11.61\00:19:13.58
and I'll tell you...
I think there a danger
00:19:13.62\00:19:17.19
in that... when we
have the mentality that
00:19:17.22\00:19:20.76
"yeah, you know, I got
to be part of that 144,000
00:19:20.79\00:19:23.49
that's a literal number... "man,
that's a small group of people,"
00:19:23.53\00:19:25.73
so, I, in my mind have to
make a whole lot of people
00:19:25.76\00:19:30.13
wrong in the
stuff that they're doing
00:19:30.17\00:19:32.13
if I want to be a
part of the 144,000... "
00:19:32.17\00:19:34.00
Yvonne: Hmmm... James:
It's a Peter mentality...
00:19:34.04\00:19:35.37
Ivor: That's right... so now...
00:19:35.40\00:19:36.74
James: "They'll
forsake you but I won't... "
00:19:36.77\00:19:38.11
we're getting ready for the
fall we're ready for the fall...
00:19:38.14\00:19:40.28
Ivor: Man! the whole
church is going crazy
00:19:40.31\00:19:42.78
but man! if it were not
for me and my buddy, here,
00:19:42.84\00:19:45.31
ooooh! what would
happen to the church of God?
00:19:45.38\00:19:47.82
James: Yeah... Yvonne: Ah ha...
00:19:47.88\00:19:49.65
Ivor: So, in essence...
the 144,000 is a small number
00:19:49.68\00:19:53.02
compared to those
that will be lost...
00:19:53.05\00:19:55.02
James: It still is...
00:19:55.06\00:19:56.52
Ivor: It still is
small... the great multitude...
00:19:56.56\00:19:58.53
even though it's
a great multitude,
00:19:58.56\00:20:00.00
it's a small number compared to
those that are going to be lost,
00:20:00.03\00:20:02.53
so yeah... you
still have to strive
00:20:02.56\00:20:05.37
to be a part of the
144,000... I'm not saying,
00:20:05.40\00:20:08.80
"Oh yeah, the road is broad,
don't worry about it, man!
00:20:08.84\00:20:11.21
great multitude...
you're going to make it... "
00:20:11.27\00:20:12.84
no, no, no... it would be...
00:20:12.87\00:20:14.38
I hope this doesn't
sound discouraging but
00:20:14.41\00:20:17.25
if the number
were just 144,000...
00:20:17.28\00:20:19.78
it would be as difficult
still, you know what I'm saying,
00:20:19.81\00:20:22.28
its difficulty is not
in the size of the group
00:20:22.35\00:20:24.79
it's in, "Am I
able to overcome my sin,
00:20:24.82\00:20:27.32
am I able to overcome
the... am I able to conquer
00:20:27.36\00:20:31.73
as that white horse
has... " you know...
00:20:31.76\00:20:33.50
the rider on the white horse...
00:20:33.53\00:20:35.20
James: Can I
give Jesus the reins,
00:20:35.23\00:20:36.56
can I give Jesus the reins?
Ivor: Absolutely. Yvonne: Hmmm.
00:20:36.60\00:20:38.27
James: Now, two
illustrations I want to give,
00:20:38.30\00:20:40.10
I work with
Light Bearers Ministry,
00:20:40.14\00:20:41.60
we have printed 165
million pieces of literature
00:20:41.67\00:20:47.11
in the last 25
years... Yvonne: Wow!
00:20:47.14\00:20:48.61
James: And I haven't
printed any of them...
00:20:48.64\00:20:51.31
but we've done it
why? because we...
00:20:51.35\00:20:56.48
means Light Bearers...we
got a printer, we got a folder
00:20:56.52\00:20:59.59
we got guys who work
in the Publishing House
00:20:59.62\00:21:01.69
that's what they
do... but we... see... we...
00:21:01.72\00:21:03.83
I use that word "we" 3abn...
00:21:03.86\00:21:05.63
3abn Dare to Dream, 3bn Latino,
00:21:05.66\00:21:07.63
3abn Parent
Channel, 3abn Kids Time,
00:21:07.66\00:21:09.63
3abn... we... are a body so...
00:21:09.66\00:21:11.80
we... the 144,000...
well, they are part of us,
00:21:11.83\00:21:16.20
it's kind of
like a football team
00:21:16.24\00:21:17.57
every year... a football
team wins the Super Bowl
00:21:17.61\00:21:20.34
and there are some
players on that team
00:21:20.38\00:21:22.98
that never played a
minute of football...
00:21:23.01\00:21:25.55
but they still get a ring
because they're part of the team
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they're part of the team.
Yvonne: Hmmm... I got you...
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when you go to
heaven, you're not there
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because you are part
of the final generation
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that met with the
final test and overcame,
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you're there because
of the blood of the Lamb,
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the thief on the
cross in heaven is there
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because of the
blood of the Lamb,
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if the thief on the cross
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would have been able to
come down from that cross,
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if the thief on the cross
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would have lived in
the final generation,
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guess what? By
the blood of the Lamb,
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he would have
been part of that group
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and doing what that
group's going to do,
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so we are privileged
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to live where we
live and to do what we do
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but we're not
saved any differently
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than any other
generation was saved,
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you see, every generation...
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here we are in Acts
chapter 14 and verse 22,
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every generation has
come through great tribulation
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it says here,
"Confirming the souls... "
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Acts 14:22... "Confirming
the souls of the disciples,
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and exhorting them to
continue in the faith,
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that we must
through much tribulation
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enter into the kingdom of God. "
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That was the
question you asked...
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you asked the
question. Yvonne: Right...
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James: But it looks like we've
come to the great tribulation,
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oh there's a great
tribulation and then Jesus says,
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"The Dark Ages was
a great tribulation
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such as never was
or ever will be... "
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and then Paul says, in
the early Apostolic Age,
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we've got to come
through much tribulation
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to enter into the
Kingdom of God, you see,
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and what is the greatest
enemy that we need to overcome?
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What is the greatest thing that
gives us the most tribulation?
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Ivor: Self...
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James: Yeah, Martin
Luther said it that way.
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He said, "You know what?
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I fear self more than I fear
the Pope and all his Bishops. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: "That's the great enemy,"
so... so the principle is there,
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when we get to the
Book of Revelation,
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sometimes you want to,
again, selfishly take it for us
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and we don't want to spread
it out and understand that,
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"Hey, all of God's people
that are dedicated to Him,
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born again, going
through tribulation
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overcoming self,
making that surrender
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by the blood of the
Lamb, so the principles...
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the characteristics here apply
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in every
generation. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Every generation...
when we get to Revelation 15
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it's going to be a
little bit more challenging
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because it's... it doesn't
say that there are a 144,000
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but it does say that they sing
the song of Moses and the Lamb
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here's what it says, it says,
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"they overcome the
beast his mark, his image
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and the number of
his name," and we say,
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"Wait a minute... that can't be
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all the generations of people
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because that's an
end-time issue right there... "
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well, wait a minute,
what beast do they overcome?
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They overcome the
Revelation 13 beast
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and the Revelation 13
beast has a feet like a bear
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and a body like a
leopard and mouth like a lion
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and that will seek
authority from a dragon,
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the Revelation 13
beast is a composite
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of Babylon,
Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome,
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Daniel had to
overcome that beast, yes,
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Daniel had to
overcome that beast,
00:24:01.77\00:24:03.74
all of God's people have
had to overcome the dragon,
00:24:03.77\00:24:07.08
Adam and Eve were
taken out by the dragon,
00:24:07.11\00:24:10.31
you see, so the
Mark of the Beast issue
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is an issue that's
gone on for complete...
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ever since Satan wanted to
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sit in the sides of
the north. Ivor: Yeah.
00:24:18.25\00:24:20.09
James: And the
redeemed are those
00:24:20.12\00:24:22.06
who are following
the lamb wherever He goes
00:24:22.12\00:24:24.49
in every generation,
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whether they're looking
forward or looking back.
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Ivor: I wanted to mention
this, the Bible tells about
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how they sing the song of Moses
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and of the Lamb
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so, that would be
a good thing to do,
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like, where was
the song of Moses,
00:24:35.87\00:24:38.07
when was the song of Moses sung?
00:24:38.11\00:24:40.04
James: The horse and it's rider
had been thrown into the sea...
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Ivor: So, guess
what? the song of Moses...
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it was sung after they
had crossed the Red Sea
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and got on the
other side of the Red Sea
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the only ones that...
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James: And the black horse and
the red horse and the pale horse
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had been taken out.
00:24:55.62\00:24:56.96
Ivor:... that was taken out...
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the only ones that
could sing that song,
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were those who made
it across the Red Sea...
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James: Yes... yeah.
00:25:01.60\00:25:03.03
Ivor: Right, so, Moses...
he... he comes to Egypt,
00:25:03.06\00:25:08.47
delivers his
people out of captivity,
00:25:08.50\00:25:10.44
parts the Red Sea...
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they cross over
to the other side
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by the blood of the
lamb, by His sacrifice
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and then they sing
the song, so guess what?
00:25:16.71\00:25:19.15
that is a shadow of...
00:25:19.18\00:25:22.15
because Jesus is
the end-time Moses
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who has gone away
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but He's going to come
back to deliver His people,
00:25:27.99\00:25:30.03
right, just like Moses
went away and he comes back...
00:25:30.06\00:25:32.06
so Jesus is coming
back and guess what?
00:25:32.09\00:25:33.76
He's going to part the sky and
everyone that crosses over...
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the only ones that cross
over and gets to the other side
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will be the ones who
can sing the song of Moses
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now... and the
Lamb... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: It's a beautiful
picture. Yvonne: Wow! Yes.
00:25:49.74\00:25:52.71
Ivor: It's all the redeemed,
it's all who cross over.
00:25:52.78\00:25:55.35
James: Yeah, we know
when He parts the sky
00:25:55.38\00:25:57.85
resurrection takes
place so this question,
00:25:57.89\00:26:00.19
"who's going to
be able to stand?"
00:26:00.22\00:26:01.56
is answered by a
multitude that is in heaven,
00:26:01.59\00:26:04.23
well, who's in
heaven, who is there?
00:26:04.26\00:26:06.09
All the resurrected are there
00:26:06.13\00:26:07.70
as well as those
translated without sin,
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so that's why the picture...
when John hears the number,
00:26:09.36\00:26:12.57
when he sees the
picture, the picture takes us
00:26:12.60\00:26:14.77
to this heavenly place
rather than this earthly place
00:26:14.80\00:26:18.54
in Revelation 14
it's the same thing
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they're on Mount Zion,
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it's a heavenly place
rather than an earthly place,
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well, who's going to be in the
heavenly place? The 144,000...
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"Oh! the
144,000... who are they?"
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Well, they are virgins,
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that's what we're
going to get to next,
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we don't have time
to get to that right now
00:26:33.12\00:26:34.82
but we need to cover
virgins without fault,
00:26:34.86\00:26:36.56
no guile in their mouths,
00:26:36.59\00:26:37.93
we need to
cover those principles
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because just
like the firstfruits,
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just like the name... sometimes
we apply that to an elite group
00:26:40.80\00:26:44.33
and we need to see
how the Bible applies it.
00:26:44.37\00:26:46.23
Yvonne: Yes.
00:26:46.27\00:26:47.60
James: The Bible applied virgins
00:26:47.64\00:26:48.97
to more than just this
end-time elite group of people,
00:26:49.00\00:26:52.04
so that's what we'll pick
up as we continue in Part 3
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actually, we might
not call it Part 3,
00:26:55.51\00:26:57.28
we might call it the Seal
of God because we got to...
00:26:57.31\00:26:58.88
we got to really get
into the Seal of God.
00:26:58.91\00:27:00.48
Ivor: Yeah, I
think it's important
00:27:00.52\00:27:01.85
that we need to realize
that all the redeemed are elite.
00:27:01.88\00:27:05.59
James: Yes... yes...
00:27:05.62\00:27:07.02
Ivor: That's it...
I mean, yes there's...
00:27:07.06\00:27:09.76
there's going to be
an end-time generation
00:27:09.79\00:27:12.43
that goes through things
that none other have experienced
00:27:12.46\00:27:15.36
but they all...
in other words...
00:27:15.43\00:27:17.97
as a body... this is the
elite that overcome the dragon
00:27:18.00\00:27:22.17
and overcome these issues so
that's what we need to consider.
00:27:22.20\00:27:24.57
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Amen... Jason, close us
out with prayer would you Bro?
00:27:26.01\00:27:27.64
Jason: Sure...
"Dear Heavenly Father,
00:27:27.68\00:27:29.71
thank you so much
for another blessed study
00:27:29.74\00:27:31.61
help us to internalize
everything that we're learning
00:27:31.65\00:27:34.55
and to be able to
share it with others
00:27:34.58\00:27:36.75
and put it in a form that
they may understand as well,
00:27:36.79\00:27:39.72
please be with
us on our next study
00:27:39.75\00:27:43.89
and be with the
Viewers that are watching
00:27:43.93\00:27:45.93
and help them to
retain the information
00:27:45.99\00:27:47.96
and be able to
repeat it as well,
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in Jesus' name we pray, amen. "
00:27:49.56\00:27:50.90
All: "Amen... amen... "
00:27:50.93\00:27:52.27
James: So we
want to tell Viewers
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to get a hold
of us through what?
00:27:53.67\00:27:55.00
Jason: They can send an
e-mail to: sss@3abn. org
00:27:55.04\00:27:58.77
that's sss as in
Salvation in Symbols and Signs.
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James: Amen...
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