So we are in Revelation chapter 7, 00:00:31.96\00:00:33.76 now Revelation chapter 7 is still part of the seven seals 00:00:33.80\00:00:37.70 there's no seal mentioned in this chapter 00:00:37.73\00:00:40.30 because in a sense it's kind of like an interlude 00:00:40.34\00:00:43.24 or an interruption in the sequence of the seven seals, 00:00:43.30\00:00:46.14 the seven seals are going to come after Revelation chapter 7 00:00:46.17\00:00:49.34 in Revelation 8 verse 1 so we have the sixth seal 00:00:49.41\00:00:52.15 then we have this interlude of hope... Revelation 7... 00:00:52.18\00:00:55.52 the entire chapter and then we have the 7th seal, 00:00:55.55\00:00:57.39 so why do we have this interruption? 00:00:57.42\00:00:59.45 Why do we have this... 00:00:59.49\00:01:00.82 this interlude right in the middle of these seals 00:01:00.86\00:01:04.13 before the 7th seal is opened, after the 6th seal is opened 00:01:04.16\00:01:07.30 why do we have this... this whole chapter put in here? 00:01:07.33\00:01:10.17 Well, the reason why is because 00:01:10.20\00:01:12.13 this chapter answers the question 00:01:12.17\00:01:14.04 that is asked in Revelation chapter 6. 00:01:14.07\00:01:17.04 When the sixth seal is opened, 00:01:17.11\00:01:18.97 there's a sequence of events that takes place, 00:01:19.01\00:01:20.84 and those events culminate in the coming of Jesus and God 00:01:20.88\00:01:24.31 and the question that's asked is, 00:01:24.35\00:01:26.25 "Who is going to be able to stand 00:01:26.28\00:01:28.12 before the throne and before the Lamb?" 00:01:28.15\00:01:30.99 And so what happens is 00:01:31.02\00:01:32.55 John is inspired by God, by the Holy Spirit 00:01:32.59\00:01:35.52 to give a whole chapter to answer that question. 00:01:35.56\00:01:38.06 And that's what we're going to do in this next study 00:01:38.09\00:01:40.46 we're going to seek to understand 00:01:40.50\00:01:42.03 Revelation chapter 7's answer to the question, 00:01:42.06\00:01:44.57 "Who is going to be able to stand?" 00:01:44.60\00:01:45.93 Yvonne: So, is this kind of a continuation of the idea of 00:01:45.97\00:01:48.80 who can open the seals? 00:01:48.84\00:01:50.41 James: No, it's not a continuation 00:01:50.44\00:01:52.21 of who's going to open the seals, 00:01:52.24\00:01:53.98 because that's already been answered, 00:01:54.04\00:01:55.71 Jesus, the Lamb is opening the seals 00:01:55.74\00:01:58.65 but this is more like a statement of, 00:01:58.68\00:02:01.52 you know, this sequence of seals 00:02:01.58\00:02:03.35 has taken us from the Apostolic Age... 00:02:03.39\00:02:04.92 all the way down through history 00:02:04.95\00:02:06.62 to the Second Coming of Jesus, 00:02:06.65\00:02:08.26 we've gone through the disappointment of 1844... 00:02:08.29\00:02:11.19 we've headed into the judgment, 00:02:11.23\00:02:12.56 we've seen the signs in the heavens that indicate 00:02:12.59\00:02:14.76 that the Millerite Movement was right on track 00:02:14.80\00:02:17.33 and now we're seeing the Second Coming of Jesus 00:02:17.37\00:02:19.63 well, who is going to be able to stand when Jesus comes? 00:02:19.67\00:02:23.47 Well, I forgot to tell you... 00:02:23.51\00:02:26.14 let me tell you about this little... 00:02:26.17\00:02:27.51 little bit right here... that judgment... 00:02:27.54\00:02:29.68 is involved... involves a sealing 00:02:29.71\00:02:31.51 a sealing work that's going to take place 00:02:31.58\00:02:34.25 and there's going to be this number that's going to be sealed 00:02:34.28\00:02:36.25 "I heard the number... 00:02:36.28\00:02:37.62 they were a hundred and forty and four thousand 00:02:37.65\00:02:38.99 and then I saw this great multitude 00:02:39.02\00:02:40.36 that no man could number... " 00:02:40.39\00:02:41.72 that's what Revelation 7 does, it's kind of like... 00:02:41.76\00:02:44.03 I call it... "an interlude of hope" 00:02:44.06\00:02:45.86 because there's this despair that comes from this question, 00:02:45.89\00:02:50.47 "Who's going to be able to stand?" 00:02:50.50\00:02:51.83 And I mean, even the righteous will kind of ask that question, 00:02:51.87\00:02:55.10 "who's going to be able to stand?" 00:02:55.17\00:02:56.50 And Revelation chapter 7 is an interlude to hope 00:02:56.54\00:02:59.07 because it gives an answer... it points to a people 00:02:59.11\00:03:01.61 who are going to be able to stand 00:03:01.64\00:03:02.98 because they have the seal of God. 00:03:03.01\00:03:04.35 Yvonne: Yeah... 00:03:04.38\00:03:05.71 James: And that people is so large 00:03:05.75\00:03:07.08 that you can't even number them 00:03:07.12\00:03:08.45 so it's... it's encouragement for us 00:03:08.48\00:03:09.82 they come from every nation, kindred, tongue and people so... 00:03:09.85\00:03:12.05 all right... Jason, let's get into this with a word of prayer 00:03:12.12\00:03:14.92 and then, Yvonne, can you read 00:03:14.96\00:03:16.36 Revelation 7 verses 1 through 4 for us? Yvonne: Sure... 00:03:16.39\00:03:18.09 James: All right, let's get started. 00:03:18.13\00:03:19.46 Jason: "Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much 00:03:19.49\00:03:20.83 for blessing us with the privilege 00:03:20.86\00:03:22.20 to be able to study your Word, 00:03:22.23\00:03:23.57 we invite you to be with us and help us to understand 00:03:23.60\00:03:25.97 what we are studying, in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 00:03:26.03\00:03:28.37 All: "Amen... " 00:03:28.40\00:03:29.74 Yvonne: Okay, Revelation 7 verses 1 through 4... 00:03:29.77\00:03:34.24 "And after these things I saw four angels 00:03:34.28\00:03:36.68 standing on the four corners of the earth, 00:03:36.75\00:03:38.81 holding the four winds of the earth, 00:03:38.85\00:03:40.48 that the wind should not blow on the earth, 00:03:40.52\00:03:42.75 nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 00:03:42.78\00:03:44.79 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, 00:03:44.82\00:03:47.89 having the seal of the living God: 00:03:47.92\00:03:49.69 and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, 00:03:49.72\00:03:52.86 to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 00:03:52.89\00:03:55.93 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, 00:03:55.96\00:03:59.30 till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 00:03:59.33\00:04:02.64 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: 00:04:02.67\00:04:05.57 and there were sealed 00:04:05.64\00:04:07.01 an hundred and forty and four thousand 00:04:07.08\00:04:09.41 of all the tribes of the children of Israel. " 00:04:09.44\00:04:11.71 James: Okay, these verses are the introduction to the sealing 00:04:11.75\00:04:17.55 and the introduction in verse 1 identifies four winds, 00:04:17.59\00:04:20.96 four winds that are ready to blow on the earth 00:04:20.99\00:04:24.43 now these four winds are touched on 00:04:24.46\00:04:27.80 in our previous chapter 00:04:27.83\00:04:29.36 because when we got into the opening of the sixth seal, 00:04:29.40\00:04:31.67 we saw all kinds of natural disasters, 00:04:31.73\00:04:35.20 we saw a great earthquake 00:04:35.24\00:04:37.11 and we referenced that to the Lisbon earthquake, 00:04:37.14\00:04:39.07 we saw the signs in the sky, 00:04:39.11\00:04:41.81 the sun and the moon and the stars falling to the earth, 00:04:41.84\00:04:46.11 all of these were indicating of natural disasters 00:04:46.15\00:04:49.85 that were coming... calamities that were coming upon the earth 00:04:49.88\00:04:52.22 and in Revelation chapter 7 00:04:52.25\00:04:54.02 the idea is that these calamities are being held back, 00:04:54.06\00:04:56.62 they're being restrained... they're not coming in full force 00:04:56.69\00:04:59.13 because there's a work that has to be done 00:04:59.16\00:05:01.00 in sealing God's servants and we see the same thing, 00:05:01.03\00:05:03.93 and the same idea in Ezekiel chapter 9, 00:05:03.97\00:05:06.94 this whole picture is borrowed from the Old Testament 00:05:06.97\00:05:10.07 so in Ezekiel chapter 9 God shows Ezekiel 00:05:10.11\00:05:14.58 this same 00:05:14.61\00:05:16.78 sealing work that is taking place 00:05:16.81\00:05:18.95 and the same consequence that's being held back 00:05:18.98\00:05:21.22 yeah, Ezekiel chapter 9 and Jason could you read for us, 00:05:21.25\00:05:24.59 Ezekiel 9, verses 1... all the way through 00:05:24.62\00:05:30.09 to verse 6. 00:05:30.13\00:05:33.60 Jason: Okay, "He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, 00:05:33.63\00:05:39.07 saying, Cause them that have charge over the city 00:05:39.10\00:05:41.50 to draw near, even every man 00:05:41.54\00:05:43.61 with his destroying weapon in his hand. 00:05:43.64\00:05:45.64 And behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, 00:05:45.67\00:05:49.64 which lieth toward the north, 00:05:49.68\00:05:51.31 and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; 00:05:51.35\00:05:54.05 and one man among them was clothed with linen, 00:05:54.08\00:05:57.55 with a writer's inkhorn by his side: 00:05:57.59\00:06:00.79 and they went in, and stood beside the brazen altar. 00:06:00.82\00:06:05.73 And the glory of the God of Israel 00:06:05.76\00:06:08.90 was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, 00:06:08.93\00:06:12.33 to the threshold of the house. 00:06:12.37\00:06:14.24 And he called to the man clothed with linen, 00:06:14.27\00:06:16.77 which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 00:06:16.81\00:06:19.27 And the Lord said unto him, 00:06:19.34\00:06:21.11 Go through the midst of the city, 00:06:21.14\00:06:22.58 through the midst of Jerusalem, 00:06:22.61\00:06:24.28 and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh 00:06:24.31\00:06:26.88 and that cry for all the abominations 00:06:26.92\00:06:29.35 that be done in the midst thereof. 00:06:29.38\00:06:31.75 And to the others he said in mine hearing, 00:06:31.79\00:06:34.72 Go ye after him through the city, and smite: 00:06:34.76\00:06:37.86 let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 00:06:37.89\00:06:40.93 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, 00:06:40.96\00:06:45.97 and women: but come not near any man 00:06:46.00\00:06:49.07 upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. 00:06:49.10\00:06:52.64 Then they began at the ancient men 00:06:52.67\00:06:55.84 which were before the house. " 00:06:55.88\00:06:58.51 Now really quickly here on these verses, 00:06:58.55\00:07:01.18 we see the same two ingredients that we see in Revelation 7, 00:07:01.22\00:07:04.95 we see a mark that's being set on God's people... 00:07:04.99\00:07:07.59 who are sighing and crying for the abominations 00:07:07.62\00:07:10.16 and then we see destruction 00:07:10.19\00:07:11.89 coming on those who are not going to have the mark... 00:07:11.93\00:07:13.86 the destruction is the same thing 00:07:13.90\00:07:15.96 that we see in Revelation 7 as the four winds... 00:07:16.00\00:07:18.00 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:07:18.03\00:07:19.37 James: God is not going to allow those four winds... 00:07:19.40\00:07:20.74 He's not going to allow that destruction to come 00:07:20.77\00:07:22.17 until God's people are sealed, why? 00:07:22.20\00:07:23.81 Because according to Ezekiel 9, 00:07:23.84\00:07:25.74 the destruction is not going to come 00:07:25.77\00:07:27.64 to those who have the seal of the Mark of God. 00:07:27.71\00:07:29.81 So, this is an important parallel that we see here 00:07:29.84\00:07:33.38 taking place between these two chapters, 00:07:33.42\00:07:34.98 Ezekiel 9 is helping us with Revelation chapter 7 00:07:35.02\00:07:37.85 the four winds being held back to God's servants 00:07:37.89\00:07:40.69 are sealed in their foreheads. 00:07:40.72\00:07:42.06 Ivor: Yeah, I also want to pick up on... 00:07:42.09\00:07:44.69 to go back to the Book of Revelation 00:07:44.76\00:07:47.46 and looking at the context of Revelation chapter 7 00:07:47.50\00:07:52.77 we've seen that it is set within the context of the seven seals 00:07:52.80\00:07:58.51 and we established in earlier programs 00:07:58.54\00:08:01.24 that the seven seals unfold 00:08:01.28\00:08:03.18 according to Revelation chapter 4 and 5, 00:08:03.24\00:08:05.31 at the Table of Shewbread, that's the "sides of the north," 00:08:05.35\00:08:09.18 and it's interesting as you were speaking, James, 00:08:09.22\00:08:12.59 we were actually reading the description of the... 00:08:12.62\00:08:15.99 of the tribes... 12,000 from each tribe, 00:08:16.02\00:08:18.49 so, how many tribes are there? 00:08:18.53\00:08:20.36 There are twelve... and on the Table of Shewbread 00:08:20.40\00:08:22.96 how many loaves of bread? Twelve... 00:08:23.00\00:08:25.43 and what's interesting is that 00:08:25.50\00:08:27.50 if you take each one of those loaves... 00:08:27.54\00:08:29.60 as representing a tribe, you know, 00:08:29.64\00:08:31.64 you have 12,000 in each tribe so those 12 loaves of bread 00:08:31.67\00:08:37.51 are almost a shadow form of this 144,000. 00:08:37.55\00:08:41.38 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:08:41.42\00:08:43.35 Ivor: Okay, so, think if this... think of it in this context, 00:08:43.39\00:08:46.59 remember where Lucifer wanted to sit... 00:08:46.62\00:08:49.46 he wanted to sit... according to Isaiah 14 verse 13, 00:08:49.49\00:08:53.03 "on the sides of the north," okay, 00:08:53.06\00:08:56.03 so what we see unfolding within the seven seals 00:08:56.06\00:08:59.23 is this conflict between God and Lucifer 00:08:59.27\00:09:05.01 over "the sides of the north," 00:09:05.04\00:09:06.88 so what's on the sides of the north? 00:09:06.91\00:09:08.24 According to Isaiah 14:13, 00:09:08.28\00:09:09.61 Lucifer said, "I will set my throne 00:09:09.64\00:09:11.61 upon the sides of the north 00:09:11.65\00:09:13.48 where the mount of the congregation is... 00:09:13.52\00:09:16.02 okay, this again is speaking about "the congregation of God" 00:09:16.05\00:09:19.75 so, when that question is asked, 00:09:19.79\00:09:23.32 we saw that the rider on the white horse 00:09:23.36\00:09:25.99 going forth with the Word of God, 00:09:26.03\00:09:27.46 this... going forth of the Word of God 00:09:27.50\00:09:31.33 is to help establish the mount of the congregation 00:09:31.37\00:09:34.44 where Satan's trying to destroy the mount of the congregation, 00:09:34.47\00:09:37.44 he's trying to rule over the mount of the congregation 00:09:37.47\00:09:39.71 so we get to Revelation chapter 6 00:09:39.74\00:09:42.04 or it's... yeah... chapter 6... to the sixth seal... 00:09:42.11\00:09:45.85 we have this question, "Who shall be able to what...? 00:09:45.88\00:09:49.82 Yvonne: Stand... 00:09:49.85\00:09:51.19 Ivor: To stand... all right... 00:09:51.22\00:09:52.55 and the answer comes in Revelation chapter 7 00:09:52.59\00:09:55.32 where it's very interesting... I want you to notice, 00:09:55.36\00:09:57.59 Revelation chapter 7 and look at verse 9... 00:09:57.63\00:10:02.53 Revelation chapter 7 verse 9... 00:10:02.56\00:10:05.43 after John describes the 144,000... 00:10:05.47\00:10:08.24 verse 9 says this... "After this I beheld, and lo, 00:10:08.30\00:10:11.94 a great multitude, which no man could number, 00:10:11.97\00:10:14.98 of all nations, kindred's, tongues and peoples, 00:10:15.01\00:10:17.95 stood before... " where? "the throne... " 00:10:17.98\00:10:21.65 all right... where is God's throne? 00:10:21.68\00:10:23.08 "The sides of the north... " 00:10:23.12\00:10:25.75 in other words... the... this Revelation 7 00:10:25.79\00:10:29.89 shows us the end product of the Word of God going forth 00:10:29.92\00:10:33.26 and in fact, here's what's even more interesting... 00:10:33.29\00:10:36.56 if you flip over to Revelation 14... 00:10:36.60\00:10:38.17 and look at how the 144,000 are described here, 00:10:38.23\00:10:42.14 Revelation 14 verse 1, it says, 00:10:42.17\00:10:45.17 "I looked and lo, a Lamb stood... " where? 00:10:45.21\00:10:48.54 All: "Mount Zion... " 00:10:48.58\00:10:49.91 Ivor: Where is Mount Zion James: side of the north... 00:10:49.94\00:10:51.98 Ivor: sides of the north... 00:10:52.01\00:10:53.35 according to Psalm 48... verses 1 and 2 00:10:53.38\00:10:55.52 "Beautiful for situation... " right... 00:10:55.55\00:10:57.79 James: "the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, 00:10:57.82\00:10:59.99 on the sides of the north, the city of the great King. " 00:11:00.06\00:11:01.79 Ivor: the city of the great king... so... 00:11:01.82\00:11:03.59 Yvonne: "king" singular or kings? 00:11:03.63\00:11:06.53 Ivor: King... singular... so in other words, 00:11:06.59\00:11:10.53 those who stand on Mount Zion at the very end... 00:11:10.57\00:11:14.47 when all things are said and done... 00:11:14.50\00:11:17.81 are represented by the loaves of bread 00:11:17.84\00:11:20.28 they are the "mount of the congregation" 00:11:20.31\00:11:23.04 that has made it to heaven. Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:11:23.08\00:11:25.78 James: So that number 12 is significant... because 00:11:25.81\00:11:29.55 the number 12 in the Old Testament... 12 tribes... 00:11:29.58\00:11:33.36 in the New Testament... 12 disciples... 00:11:33.39\00:11:35.89 Ivor: 12 Apostles... 00:11:35.92\00:11:37.26 James: And even the New Jerusalem 00:11:37.29\00:11:38.63 which is the Bride of Christ has 12 foundations 00:11:38.66\00:11:40.66 and 12 gates... 12 times 12 is a 144... 00:11:40.70\00:11:44.23 and 1,000 is the largest number in the Bible... 00:11:44.27\00:11:47.47 see... when God wants to get big... 00:11:47.50\00:11:49.54 and see... sometimes we think 00:11:49.57\00:11:50.91 "Oh, a 144,000... that's not very many people... " 00:11:50.94\00:11:52.67 well, first of all, it is a symbolic number 00:11:52.71\00:11:55.01 because if you look at it in the Greek... 00:11:55.04\00:11:57.35 it actually reads twelve... 1,000... 00:11:57.38\00:11:58.98 twelve... 1,000... twelve... 1,000 00:11:59.01\00:12:00.58 twelve... 1,000... and it's repeated 12 times 00:12:00.62\00:12:03.55 and the thing that's so powerful about this is 00:12:03.59\00:12:06.49 twelve is a symbol of the kingdom number 00:12:06.52\00:12:09.56 and the 1,000 is the largest number in the Bible, 00:12:09.62\00:12:12.19 when God wants to get big He says, 00:12:12.23\00:12:13.63 "a thousand times ten thousands and thousands of thousands" 00:12:13.70\00:12:16.56 okay, so when he using a 1,000 He's saying, 00:12:16.63\00:12:19.57 "I want you to think big... " okay, a thousand... 00:12:19.60\00:12:21.30 so who's going to be sealed 00:12:21.34\00:12:22.67 twelve... 1,000... from this tribe... 00:12:22.70\00:12:24.04 and 12,000 from this tribe 00:12:24.07\00:12:25.61 and 12 one thousand from this tribe... 00:12:25.64\00:12:26.98 and 12 one thousand from this tribe, that's a lot, 00:12:27.01\00:12:29.44 or 12 one thousand from this tribe 00:12:29.48\00:12:30.95 and 12 one thousand from this tribe... 00:12:30.98\00:12:32.31 how many have we done so far? Jason: A lot... 00:12:32.35\00:12:34.15 James: Six... 12 one thousand from... 00:12:34.18\00:12:35.62 12 one thousand from... 00:12:35.65\00:12:36.99 and it just keeps going and going... 00:12:37.02\00:12:38.72 and even though he stops at 12... 00:12:38.75\00:12:40.49 the point is not... it's only this is not... 00:12:40.52\00:12:42.86 the point isn't limited, the point is... it's great, 00:12:42.89\00:12:45.33 it's big... that's why... in Revelation 7:9... 00:12:45.36\00:12:49.16 John turns to see 00:12:49.20\00:12:51.07 what he first heard, 00:12:51.10\00:12:52.87 now this is a key point right here, 00:12:52.90\00:12:54.24 let's just touch on this real quick... 00:12:54.27\00:12:56.91 in Revelation chapter 7 in verse 4, 00:12:56.94\00:12:59.54 he says, "And I heard the number of them that were sealed 00:12:59.57\00:13:05.25 and there were sealed a 144,000" then in verse 9 he says, 00:13:05.28\00:13:09.78 "And after this I... " what's the word? 00:13:09.82\00:13:11.59 Yvonne: Beheld... James: "Beheld... " 00:13:11.65\00:13:12.99 Yvonne: Ah... 00:13:13.02\00:13:14.36 James: when John first is introduced to the sealing... 00:13:14.39\00:13:17.23 he hears... he doesn't see this... 00:13:17.26\00:13:19.59 he just hears who's going to be sealed, 00:13:19.63\00:13:21.20 then he turns around and he sees them 00:13:21.23\00:13:22.73 what he's seeing is the same thing he heard, 00:13:22.76\00:13:24.93 how do we know this? 00:13:24.97\00:13:26.30 Go back to Revelation chapter 1... 00:13:26.33\00:13:28.17 and look in Revelation chapter 1 00:13:28.20\00:13:30.24 at what happens when Jesus first comes to John 00:13:30.27\00:13:32.87 on the Isle of Patmos, in Revelation chapter 1 verse 10 00:13:32.94\00:13:37.38 John says, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, 00:13:37.41\00:13:41.12 and I heard behind me a great voice... " 00:13:41.15\00:13:43.65 what was it like? Yvonne: A trumpet... 00:13:43.69\00:13:45.59 James: A trumpet... now was it a trumpet? 00:13:45.65\00:13:47.49 a little... no... it wasn't... so what was it? 00:13:47.52\00:13:49.92 well, it sounded like a trumpet, right? 00:13:49.96\00:13:52.03 That's what I heard... and then there was verse 12, 00:13:52.06\00:13:54.93 "And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. 00:13:54.96\00:13:57.60 And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 00:13:57.63\00:14:00.20 And in the midst... " verse 13... 00:14:00.24\00:14:01.97 "of the candlesticks... one like unto the Son of man. " 00:14:02.00\00:14:05.21 So, what he first heard was a trumpet 00:14:05.27\00:14:08.34 but then what saw was Jesus. 00:14:08.38\00:14:09.94 What he heard and what he saw were the same things... 00:14:09.98\00:14:13.21 He heard the voice of Jesus and he saw Jesus, 00:14:13.28\00:14:15.72 in Revelation 7... he hears 00:14:15.75\00:14:17.79 the number of those that are sealed, 00:14:17.82\00:14:19.92 and they're the 144,000... and he beheld and he saw 00:14:19.95\00:14:22.86 a great multitude that would make that number, 00:14:22.92\00:14:25.06 12 one thousands of it and 12 one thousands... 00:14:25.09\00:14:27.23 and 12 one thousands... and 12 one thousands, 00:14:27.26\00:14:28.83 just continuing on and on and on... 00:14:28.86\00:14:30.83 recognizing that twelve is a symbol of the Kingdom of God... 00:14:30.87\00:14:34.14 Old Testament... Kingdom of God, 00:14:34.17\00:14:35.50 New Testament... so you've got the Old Testament redeemed, 00:14:35.54\00:14:37.44 the New Testament redeemed... 00:14:37.47\00:14:38.81 times a thousand... a thousand... a thousand... 00:14:38.84\00:14:40.64 a thousand... 12 times 12... a 144,000s... 00:14:40.68\00:14:43.21 Ivor: I think what's also pretty significant 00:14:43.24\00:14:45.35 is that if you look at the first four seals 00:14:45.41\00:14:47.48 it follows that very pattern, he says, 00:14:47.52\00:14:50.89 "I heard the angel... basically saying, 00:14:50.92\00:14:53.76 'come and see... ' and then I go look... " 00:14:53.79\00:14:56.32 the second seal... "I heard... and then I looked... 00:14:56.39\00:14:59.13 I heard... " three... four seals... 00:14:59.16\00:15:00.86 "I heard... then I looked" 00:15:00.90\00:15:02.23 so this concept I think is very... 00:15:02.26\00:15:04.53 it's crucial to understand 00:15:04.60\00:15:05.93 that he doesn't see the number first, 00:15:05.97\00:15:08.17 he hears it and then when he looks... 00:15:08.20\00:15:10.41 what does he see? 00:15:10.47\00:15:11.84 He sees a great multitude, 00:15:11.87\00:15:13.21 now, I want to mention something here 00:15:13.24\00:15:14.68 because this is... this is important to understand 00:15:14.71\00:15:16.54 the great multitude is a 00:15:16.58\00:15:19.15 fulfillment of the promise given to Abraham. 00:15:19.18\00:15:21.22 James: Hmmm... hmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:15:21.25\00:15:22.58 Ivor: Abraham's seed... 00:15:22.62\00:15:23.95 "Abraham... you're going to have seed 00:15:23.99\00:15:26.55 so great that they cannot be numbered... " 00:15:26.59\00:15:28.66 James: Like the stars of heaven. 00:15:28.69\00:15:30.03 Ivor: Like the stars of heaven... 00:15:30.06\00:15:31.39 this is the promise to Abraham, 00:15:31.43\00:15:32.76 Abraham... the father of the Children of Israel, 00:15:32.79\00:15:34.13 right... so, Abraham never saw this promise 00:15:34.16\00:15:37.63 so when he gets to heaven, I mean, just imagine 00:15:37.67\00:15:40.50 he's like, "Man, where my great multitude?" 00:15:40.54\00:15:43.24 And God says, "Well, count those 144,000... " 00:15:43.27\00:15:45.61 he's like, "Wait a minute... that's the great... 00:15:45.64\00:15:47.94 that's the... " no, no, no... God shows him 00:15:47.98\00:15:50.65 this great multitude, 00:15:50.68\00:15:52.81 he was to be the father of many nations 00:15:52.85\00:15:55.68 and so, what we see here is that 00:15:55.72\00:15:58.02 this promise is being fulfilled, this group... 144,000 00:15:58.05\00:16:02.59 is... is the symbolic number for the great multitude... 00:16:02.62\00:16:07.00 those that have been redeemed 00:16:07.03\00:16:08.56 and here's something else that's interesting is that 00:16:08.60\00:16:11.57 in the Old Testament God called Israel to serve him, 00:16:11.60\00:16:14.54 he said to Pharaoh, "Let my people go 00:16:14.57\00:16:17.31 that they may serve me in the wilderness" twelve tribes... 00:16:17.34\00:16:20.34 in the New Testament He calls 12 disciples to serve Him, 00:16:20.38\00:16:23.58 so there's a connection with that number 12 00:16:23.61\00:16:26.18 and service so guess what? 00:16:26.21\00:16:27.82 When you see the sealing of the 144,000... 00:16:27.88\00:16:30.09 who were they sealing? 00:16:30.12\00:16:31.45 those that... that... it says, 00:16:31.49\00:16:33.86 "That we may seal the servants of our God... " 00:16:33.89\00:16:36.62 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:16:36.66\00:16:37.99 Ivor: When John asks, 00:16:38.03\00:16:39.53 "Who are these... this great multitude?" 00:16:39.56\00:16:42.50 "These are they that serve Him day and night in the temple. " 00:16:42.53\00:16:48.04 So all those points become crucial to understand 00:16:48.07\00:16:52.17 when we're looking at this... this number... 144,000... 00:16:52.24\00:16:57.91 we're seeing that this is a symbolic number 00:16:57.95\00:17:00.98 that is the same as the great multitude. 00:17:01.05\00:17:03.52 James: And those two verses, verse 3... 00:17:03.55\00:17:06.02 "sealing the servants of our God" 00:17:06.05\00:17:07.59 and verse 15... "Who are these? 00:17:07.66\00:17:09.12 these are they who serve Him day and night in the temple" 00:17:09.16\00:17:11.29 and that's another point, the great multitude 00:17:11.33\00:17:13.40 that cannot be numbered served God in the temple, 00:17:13.43\00:17:16.93 they entered into the temple 00:17:16.97\00:17:18.30 and they served God day and night in that temple, 00:17:18.33\00:17:20.94 what's beautiful about this picture 00:17:20.97\00:17:23.00 and this is something we need to look at 00:17:23.04\00:17:25.07 when we highlight because we... 00:17:25.11\00:17:26.44 maybe haven't emphasized this, 00:17:26.47\00:17:27.81 we're looking at four epochs of time, 00:17:27.84\00:17:29.54 we're looking at four visions in Revelation, 00:17:29.61\00:17:31.78 we're looking at the churches, the seals, the trumpets 00:17:31.81\00:17:34.62 and the seven salvation signs, 00:17:34.65\00:17:36.12 and we know they begin at this Apostolic Age 00:17:36.15\00:17:38.55 they begin in Christ's day 00:17:38.59\00:17:40.36 and the day of the establishment of the early church... 00:17:40.39\00:17:43.32 the apostles... that's what we mean by the Apostolic Age, 00:17:43.36\00:17:46.26 the time of the apostles being established by Christ 00:17:46.29\00:17:49.33 being filled with the Holy Spirit 00:17:49.36\00:17:51.03 and taking the gospel to the world 00:17:51.07\00:17:52.70 and they take us down to the new heaven and the new earth, 00:17:52.73\00:17:56.34 now, sometimes we think, "Oh each one of these epics of 00:17:56.37\00:17:59.94 time take us down to the Second Coming... " 00:17:59.97\00:18:02.84 I thought that for a long time 00:18:02.88\00:18:04.41 but as I reexamined this I've realized that in the context 00:18:04.45\00:18:08.32 of the churches... you have all these promises 00:18:08.35\00:18:12.42 that are given to those who overcome 00:18:12.45\00:18:14.59 and notice... for example... notice the promise 00:18:14.62\00:18:16.83 that is given to the church in Smyrna 00:18:16.86\00:18:18.73 in the... in the... in the... 00:18:18.76\00:18:20.73 well, actually, let's start with the church in Ephesus, 00:18:20.76\00:18:23.70 in verse 7... yeah, read that for us... 00:18:23.73\00:18:26.90 Jason, Revelation 2 verse 7 00:18:26.94\00:18:30.71 and then Yvonne, would you read after that... 00:18:30.74\00:18:34.54 will you read Revelation chapter 2 and verse 11. 00:18:34.58\00:18:38.31 so, 2:7... 2:11... 00:18:38.35\00:18:39.91 Jason: Okay, "He that hath an ear, 00:18:39.95\00:18:42.75 let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; 00:18:42.78\00:18:45.55 To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, 00:18:45.59\00:18:48.92 which is in the midst of the paradise of God. " 00:18:48.96\00:18:51.46 Yvonne: And then 2:11... says, "He that hath an ear, 00:18:51.49\00:18:54.50 let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; 00:18:54.53\00:18:57.47 He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. " 00:18:57.50\00:19:00.97 James: The second death is on the other side of the millennium 00:19:01.00\00:19:04.44 it's when the New Jerusalem comes down 00:19:04.47\00:19:07.24 out of God from heaven and rests on this earth 00:19:07.28\00:19:09.91 and this earth becomes the center of the universe, 00:19:09.94\00:19:12.35 the Tree of Life... the Tree of the Paradise of God 00:19:12.38\00:19:14.85 is also going to be in that new heaven and that new earth 00:19:14.88\00:19:17.05 so the implication here in the seven churches is 00:19:17.09\00:19:20.36 we're going from the Apostolic Age all the way 00:19:20.39\00:19:22.96 down to the new heaven and the new earth... 00:19:22.99\00:19:25.49 Eden restored... Yvonne: Hmmm... yes... 00:19:25.53\00:19:27.93 James: We're going all the way to Eden restored, 00:19:27.96\00:19:29.73 okay now, do we have that same thing 00:19:29.76\00:19:31.63 taking place in the seven seals? 00:19:31.67\00:19:33.23 Notice here in Revelation chapter 7... 00:19:33.27\00:19:35.24 Ivor talked about verse 15, let's just read there 00:19:35.27\00:19:39.81 Jason read for us... 00:19:39.84\00:19:41.18 Yvonne: Can I add something about the... 00:19:41.21\00:19:42.54 make an observation of the 144,000 before we... 00:19:42.58\00:19:45.05 James: Yeah. 00:19:45.08\00:19:46.41 Yvonne: It's really interesting to me like... 00:19:46.45\00:19:48.68 I've read about that before and I've thought 00:19:48.72\00:19:50.95 "Man, a 144,000... that's not a whole bunch of people" 00:19:50.99\00:19:54.19 so then you think, 00:19:54.22\00:19:55.56 "Okay, am I going to make the cut 00:19:55.59\00:19:56.93 because it's only a 144,000," like... "do I measure up?" 00:19:56.96\00:19:59.96 kind of thing... but then the encouraging thing for me 00:20:00.00\00:20:03.23 was when I read that John said he saw a number 00:20:03.26\00:20:05.43 that no man can number... now I'm like... okay, 00:20:05.47\00:20:08.60 "I'll surely... I can be in that number" 00:20:08.64\00:20:10.54 which is really... that's really the emphasis is wrong 00:20:10.57\00:20:14.11 because the emphasis should be on 00:20:14.14\00:20:15.64 Christ and His righteousness not mine... 00:20:15.68\00:20:17.65 but you know how we go 00:20:17.68\00:20:19.01 so, I was looking at that and I'm thinking, 00:20:19.05\00:20:21.02 "144,000... okay... that's not a whole bunch of people" 00:20:21.05\00:20:24.95 but again it's so encouraging to see that number 00:20:24.99\00:20:28.49 "that no man can number" so then you think, 00:20:28.52\00:20:30.69 "Wow! it's going to be... you can't even imagine 00:20:30.73\00:20:34.10 how many people... from the beginning of time 00:20:34.13\00:20:37.37 all the way to the end... " but you know... 00:20:37.43\00:20:40.60 to when the Lord comes... it's a whole lot of people 00:20:40.64\00:20:42.74 so praise the Lord for that. 00:20:42.77\00:20:44.11 Jason: You have a chance. 00:20:44.14\00:20:45.47 Yvonne: Yeah, it makes you feel like, "Okay... " 00:20:45.51\00:20:47.64 which we all do... I mean intellectually we know 00:20:47.68\00:20:50.48 and from the Word we know that it's about Christ 00:20:50.51\00:20:53.18 and it's not about what we do and all that 00:20:53.21\00:20:55.48 but you still feel like, 00:20:55.52\00:20:57.35 "Well, broad is the way that leads to destruction 00:20:57.39\00:21:00.89 and many there be that find it 00:21:00.92\00:21:03.06 and then narrow is the way... " so you're thinking, 00:21:03.12\00:21:05.96 "Okay, so... " you know 00:21:05.99\00:21:09.00 but with this it's encouraging, that's what I want to say. 00:21:09.03\00:21:11.37 James: You just caught it... 00:21:11.40\00:21:12.73 you just caught the point of the chapter... 00:21:12.77\00:21:14.60 because see the point of the chapter is 00:21:14.64\00:21:16.44 the interlude of hope... Yvonne: Ahhh... 00:21:16.47\00:21:18.24 James: The point of the chapter is, 00:21:18.27\00:21:19.61 Okay, there's this white horse... 00:21:19.64\00:21:20.98 he's going forth with the gospel 00:21:21.01\00:21:22.34 but then there's a red horse, then there's this black horse, 00:21:22.38\00:21:24.81 then there's this pale horse, 00:21:24.85\00:21:26.18 and then there are these martyrs and they're crying out, 00:21:26.21\00:21:28.18 "How long you're not going to judge" 00:21:28.22\00:21:29.55 and then there's all of these natural disasters and signs 00:21:29.58\00:21:32.19 and then there's all... 00:21:32.22\00:21:33.56 rich, poor, free, bond, mighty, all crying out, 00:21:33.59\00:21:35.52 "who's going to be able to stand?" 00:21:35.56\00:21:37.39 it's like... "Whoa... whoa... one white horse 00:21:37.43\00:21:39.63 and all this negative... " you know, 00:21:39.69\00:21:41.63 that's what it appears like but then John says, 00:21:41.66\00:21:43.57 "Wait a minute... wait a minute, I forgot to tell you 00:21:43.60\00:21:45.50 there's something else here God wants me to show you, 00:21:45.53\00:21:47.27 I saw that all these natural disasters are being held back 00:21:47.30\00:21:50.71 and all these calamities are being held back 00:21:50.74\00:21:52.34 while God's children were sealed 00:21:52.37\00:21:53.78 and then I heard this number of those that were sealed" 00:21:53.81\00:21:55.64 and Hebrew... Hebrew thinkers now you're never going to guess 00:21:55.68\00:21:59.05 12 yeah... Kingdom number... but a 1,000... wow! that's big! 00:21:59.11\00:22:02.45 Again and again and again and again and again and again 00:22:02.48\00:22:07.82 and again... whoa... 00:22:07.86\00:22:09.86 am I hearing things? 00:22:09.89\00:22:11.86 This sounds really big... am I hearing things? 00:22:11.89\00:22:14.43 Well, then I turned and I looked 00:22:14.46\00:22:17.17 and beheld and lo, sure enough, 00:22:17.20\00:22:19.80 sure enough, a great multitude that no man can number 00:22:19.83\00:22:23.44 he's not seeing two different groups here 00:22:23.47\00:22:24.81 you see... when he first hears... 00:22:24.84\00:22:26.68 Ivor: He only saw one group. 00:22:26.71\00:22:28.28 James: He only saw one group, he only heard the first group 00:22:28.34\00:22:31.65 and so... and he had to be... 00:22:31.68\00:22:34.02 it had to be confirmed in his mind, 00:22:34.05\00:22:35.75 "Is this really what I'm hearing because this sounds... " 00:22:35.78\00:22:38.05 and he was thinking, "This sounds big... 00:22:38.09\00:22:39.42 this sounds like a lot, I mean, these thousands... " 00:22:39.45\00:22:41.82 but sure enough, it's confirmed... 00:22:41.86\00:22:44.26 and these... these servants... now notice this, 00:22:44.29\00:22:46.90 I want us to read here, just finishing up this thought, 00:22:46.96\00:22:49.83 verses 15, 16 and 17, 15 through 17, 00:22:49.86\00:22:57.57 let's read those verses, Jason, thank you. 00:22:57.61\00:22:59.27 Jason: "Therefore are they before the throne of God, 00:22:59.31\00:23:01.58 and serve him day and night in his temple: 00:23:01.61\00:23:03.98 and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 00:23:04.05\00:23:07.48 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; 00:23:07.52\00:23:10.32 neither shall the sun light on them, 00:23:10.39\00:23:12.35 nor any heat. 00:23:12.42\00:23:13.86 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne 00:23:13.89\00:23:16.09 shall feed them and shall lead them unto 00:23:16.12\00:23:18.19 living fountains of waters 00:23:18.23\00:23:20.66 and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. " 00:23:20.70\00:23:24.13 James: Okay, if you compare that with Revelation chapter 21 00:23:24.17\00:23:27.50 when the temple comes... when the city comes down... 00:23:27.54\00:23:29.80 it talks about how in Revelation 21, 00:23:29.87\00:23:31.87 "I saw a new heaven and a new earth: 00:23:31.94\00:23:33.88 for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; 00:23:33.94\00:23:35.71 and there was no more sea. 00:23:35.74\00:23:37.41 And I saw... " John said, 00:23:37.45\00:23:39.05 "I saw the holy city coming down from God out of heaven, 00:23:39.11\00:23:41.48 prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 00:23:41.52\00:23:43.52 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, 00:23:43.55\00:23:45.52 Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, 00:23:45.55\00:23:48.56 and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, 00:23:48.59\00:23:50.33 and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 00:23:50.36\00:23:52.39 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes: 00:23:52.43\00:23:54.46 and there shall be no more death and no more sorrow, 00:23:54.50\00:23:55.96 no more crying, neither shall there be any more pain... " 00:23:56.00\00:23:58.63 no more back pain... 00:23:58.70\00:24:00.10 no more neck pain that makes you just want to complain 00:24:00.14\00:24:04.24 "for the former things... " see, John is taking us 00:24:04.27\00:24:08.34 in Revelation seven seals 00:24:08.38\00:24:09.71 all the way to the new heaven and the new earth. 00:24:09.74\00:24:11.75 John is taking us in Revelation seven churches 00:24:11.78\00:24:13.58 all the way to the new heaven and the new earth... 00:24:13.62\00:24:15.38 Eden restored, Eden restored... 00:24:15.42\00:24:17.99 and we're going to see the same thing in the trumpets 00:24:18.02\00:24:19.95 and then in the seven salvation signs, 00:24:19.99\00:24:21.99 it just takes us all the way there because we're... 00:24:22.02\00:24:24.23 that Revelation 21 is part of the last epic, 00:24:24.26\00:24:26.80 it's part of that last series, that last vision 00:24:26.83\00:24:30.27 and so it fills out... 00:24:30.30\00:24:31.63 the little hints we have in the churches, 00:24:31.67\00:24:33.23 the little hints we have here in the seals, 00:24:33.30\00:24:34.97 is filled out in that final epic where he just expands... 00:24:35.00\00:24:38.67 he gives full revelation of exactly 00:24:38.71\00:24:40.54 what that new heaven and new earth is 00:24:40.58\00:24:42.18 and how that all comes about. 00:24:42.21\00:24:43.55 Ivor: Yeah, it's a beautiful picture. 00:24:43.58\00:24:44.91 Jason: So with Eden restored that means that... 00:24:44.95\00:24:47.05 that same diet is going to be restored too, huh? 00:24:47.08\00:24:49.22 James: Absolutely. 00:24:49.25\00:24:50.59 Yvonne: All he thinks about is food. 00:24:50.62\00:24:51.95 Laugher... 00:24:51.99\00:24:53.32 James: It's going to be unbelievable... 00:24:53.36\00:24:54.69 the food that we are going to eat 00:24:54.72\00:24:57.29 from the Tree of Life... 00:24:57.33\00:24:58.66 we are not even going to want to touch anything 00:24:58.69\00:25:01.43 that's even close to earthly food ever again, 00:25:01.46\00:25:04.27 it is going to be unbelievable, have you ever tasted 00:25:04.30\00:25:08.17 a piece of fruit that was perfect? 00:25:08.20\00:25:10.87 I mean... we eat a lot of fruit that's... 00:25:10.91\00:25:13.04 but... we eat a lot of fruit that's, you know... whatever... 00:25:13.07\00:25:16.68 but when you get that one, you want to go, 00:25:16.71\00:25:18.68 "All right, we got to go back there and buy them out... 00:25:18.71\00:25:20.42 we got to buy them out... " Yvonne: Absolutely. 00:25:20.45\00:25:21.78 That doesn't even come close to what's... 00:25:21.82\00:25:23.18 Yvonne: It happened to me last summer, these peaches... 00:25:23.22\00:25:27.56 I love peaches... many times 00:25:27.59\00:25:30.66 peaches are bland and have no flavor 00:25:30.69\00:25:32.33 but these were the bomb... and I tried to find them, 00:25:32.36\00:25:36.23 they had run out at one store 00:25:36.26\00:25:37.80 and I was going to go all the way to the orchard 00:25:37.83\00:25:40.30 to get some more... I didn't tell you that right, 00:25:40.34\00:25:42.74 so I do know what you're saying, yes. 00:25:42.77\00:25:44.54 James: That's what we're talking about here... 00:25:44.57\00:25:47.38 Ivor: I think one of the other points that, 00:25:47.41\00:25:50.15 that I think it's really... 00:25:50.18\00:25:52.48 it's an insight that helps us to unlock the 144,000 even more 00:25:52.51\00:25:57.95 is that... remember under the fifth seal 00:25:57.99\00:26:00.12 the saints are crying out underneath the altar, 00:26:00.16\00:26:05.29 "How long before you judge?" Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:26:05.33\00:26:08.36 Ivor: And then at some point they're given white robes 00:26:08.40\00:26:11.43 and they're told... 00:26:11.47\00:26:12.83 "Listen, there are others to come after you" 00:26:12.87\00:26:15.00 they too will receive white robes, 00:26:15.04\00:26:17.01 well, as we look at this great multitude, 00:26:17.04\00:26:20.78 right, and chapter 7... what do we have? 00:26:20.81\00:26:24.51 They are clothed in white robes. 00:26:24.55\00:26:26.82 Yvonne: Wow! 00:26:26.85\00:26:28.18 Ivor: Okay... but they are identified 00:26:28.22\00:26:30.55 as "the mount of the congregation," 00:26:30.59\00:26:33.05 which is symbolized by the twelve loaves, 00:26:33.09\00:26:36.93 right, so the... you know... people... 00:26:36.96\00:26:39.76 that same concern you had, you know, 00:26:39.79\00:26:42.50 "the 144,000... am I going to make it or not?" 00:26:42.53\00:26:44.80 I'm going to show you something that is absolutely 00:26:44.83\00:26:46.84 crucial to understanding... 00:26:46.87\00:26:49.10 so let's go over to Revelation 15... 00:26:49.14\00:26:50.87 Revelation 15 and... actually... I'm sorry Revelation 14, 00:26:50.91\00:26:56.78 Revelation 14... and let's... 00:26:56.81\00:27:00.55 this is a second description of the 144,000 00:27:00.58\00:27:03.75 and we've got very little time left... 00:27:03.79\00:27:07.79 James: We can pick this up though in our next program. 00:27:07.82\00:27:10.49 Yvonne: Oh wow! cliffhanger... 00:27:10.53\00:27:12.23 James: This is a cliffhanger right... but it is good... 00:27:12.26\00:27:14.73 we're going to have to do at least one or maybe two more 00:27:14.76\00:27:17.17 on this 144,000 in Revelation 7 anyway, 00:27:17.23\00:27:20.07 so we'll do that... so... we need to remind our Viewers 00:27:20.10\00:27:22.70 to go into... 00:27:22.77\00:27:24.77 Yvonne: E-mail us at sss as in Salvation in Symbols and Signs 00:27:24.81\00:27:30.65 at 3abn. org 00:27:30.68\00:27:33.21 James: sss... okay... close us out with prayer, Jason. 00:27:33.25\00:27:36.12 Jason: All right... "Dear Heavenly Father, 00:27:36.15\00:27:37.59 thank you for being with us as we study the Word, 00:27:37.62\00:27:40.26 thank you for the hope that you give us 00:27:40.29\00:27:42.76 that we can be a part of that number, Lord, 00:27:42.79\00:27:45.86 help us to be prepared for your soon return, 00:27:45.89\00:27:48.93 in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 00:27:48.96\00:27:50.30 All: "Amen... " 00:27:50.33\00:27:51.67 James: So, we'll be looking at continuing, Ivor, 00:27:51.70\00:27:54.40 you're going to pick it up for us, 00:27:54.47\00:27:55.80 we're going to start and continue with this thought... 00:27:55.84\00:27:57.77 this cliffhanger thought you've got on your brain. 00:27:57.84\00:28:00.11 Ivor: Absolutely... Jason: Amen... 00:28:00.14\00:28:02.88 Yvonne: That's great... 00:28:02.91\00:28:04.68