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Welcome back! For
the afternoon session.
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Good to see you
all. Have you gotten your
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oranges today?
[Yes.] Popcorn? [laughter]
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Don't forget about
coming tomorrow; there might
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be another
surprise. You never know.
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We are going to
study lesson or chapter #8.
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Chapter #8 - it's
page 211. How many of you
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read this chapter? [raises hand]
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Ehh... 5 or 6.
That's not a bad percentage
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out of 40. [laughs
with audience] But anyway,
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let's have a word
of prayer to begin the
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session this afternoon,
and then we'll get right
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into this lesson.
Father in heaven, thank You
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for the good time
of rest that we've been
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able to have between
the morning session and
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the afternoon
session. We thank You that we
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are able to come
back to open Your Word in
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a time where the world
is in turmoil over this
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virus that can
cause what even wars can't
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cause. We are comforted
by Your Word, that You're
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sitting on the throne...
Everything is under Your
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control. And we
know that we commit our
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lives to You, You
will be with us all the way
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till the end. So we
ask that as we continue to
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study, that Your Holy
Spirit will be present
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with us to
enlighten our minds and open
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our hearts. We want
to understand Your Word
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so that we can share
it with others. So be
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with us, Lord;
bless us and keep us in
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Your care. We pray
in Jesus' precious name.
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Amen. All right. You
say, "Why are we gonna
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take a look at Matthew
and Luke?" Well, because
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Matthew and Luke are
related to Revelation
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chapter 11 and verse
2. So, we have to take a
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look at that, as well.
So let's go to page 211.
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A study of the two
witnesses of Revelation
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11 would not be complete
unless we take some time
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to study parallel
passages in Matthew 24 and Luke
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chapter 21. These chapters
bear directly on what we
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have been studying in
the last couple of sessions.
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So, let's go to
Matthew chapter 24. I want you
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to notice that in this
chapter, there are four
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sequential signs.
There are several signs, but
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four that I want
to focus on. The first
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sign is the destruction
of earthly Jerusalem.
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We find that in
verses 15-20. Now, you're
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gonna have to read
the verses at your leisure
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to follow along. I can
only give you the summary
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now. The second
sign that is mentioned in
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Matthew chapter 24 is
a period of tribulation.
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The third sign that
is mentioned is signs in
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the sun and in the
moon. By the way, the period
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of tribulation is described
in verses 21-28. The signs
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in the sun and moon
are described in verse 29.
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And then the final
sign is that the powers in
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the heavens will be shaken
when the Son of man appears.
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So, those are the four
central signs of Matthew
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24. The destruction
of earthly Jerusalem,
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a period of tribulation,
signs in the sun and moon,
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and the powers in
the heavens are shaken
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when the Son of man
appears. Now, when you
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compare the parallel
passage in Luke- because
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Luke 21 describes
the same basic ideas of
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Matthew 24. When
you go to Luke 21, there
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appear to be only three
signs and not four. What
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are the three signs?
The destruction of earthly
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Jerusalem-that's
verses 20-24-signs in the sun,
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moon, and stars-that's
verse 25-and the powers
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of heaven will be
shaken at the coming of the Son
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of man-that's
verses 25 and 26. So the
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question is, which
sign is missing in Luke that
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is found in Matthew 24?
It is the tribulation sign.
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Luke does not
mention any tribulation sign.
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However, the question
is, is the tribulation really
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missing in Luke
chapter 21? The answer is no.
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Luke simply
describes the tribulation sign
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differently than
Matthew does. Basically, the
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tribulation sign
is described in Luke
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as the Gentiles
trampling the Holy City. Now you
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see the reason why this
is related to Revelation
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11:2, because you have
a trampling of the Holy
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City. Now, let's go
to our next section.
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This is page 212. One
thing is clear: From the first
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part of Luke 21 and
verse 24- in fact, let's go
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there now and read
that verse, Luke 21:24,
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and let's see what
fact is clear there in this
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particular verse. It
says there, "And they,"
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this is the Jews...
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And you'll notice
in the New King James
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Version, there's a
period there, right? Which
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makes the separation.
So...[repeats beginning of text]
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And then I want you
to notice the second part
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of the verse.
[continues latter half]
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Does that have any
relationship with Revelation
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11:2? Very clearly.
Instead of 42 months,
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you have the expression,
"the times of the Gentiles,"
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right? And you have
a mention of Jerusalem,
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also. So, you'll
notice here in Luke chapter
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21 and verse 24
that you have the literal
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destruction of the
literal city of Jerusalem
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and its literal
temple in the first half of
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Matthew chapter 21
and verse 24. This is the
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part where it
says, "And they will fall
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by the edge of the
sword and be led away captive
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into all nations."
Period. On the other hand, the
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second part of Luke
21:24 describes the trampling
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of spiritual
Jerusalem by spiritual Gentiles
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during a symbolic period.
In other words, Luke 21:24
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is speaking about two
trampling's of Jerusalem.
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The first refers
to literal Jerusalem.
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The second half of the
verse refers to spiritual
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Jerusalem. Now,
let's notice what principle
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we are applying
here. Louis Weir, -[whom]
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has some really,
really fantastic material.
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We have many books
of his here at Secrets
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Unsealed in our store-
expresses this principle
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of how we can say
that Matthew 21:24, the
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first half of the
verse, describes the literal
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destruction of Jerusalem,
whereas the second half
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describes the period of
the trampling of spiritual
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Jerusalem by the
Gentiles for 42 months. Here's
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the principle: In
his book, The King of the
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North at Jerusalem,
pg. 75, he wrote, "When
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passing over into the
Christian era, there is
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an automatic transition
from," what? "From literal
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to spiritual Babylon."
Is Revelation's Babylon
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the literal city over
in Iraq? No! Of course
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not. It is a
spiritual global system, right?
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The harlot is
seated on many waters. All
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nations, tongues,
and multitudes follow the
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harlot. Babylon at
the end of time is global.
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In the Old
Testament, when Israel is God's
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literal people,
Babylon is what? Literal. Very
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important principle.
The statement continues,
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"When passing over into
the Christian era, there
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is an automatic transition
from literal to spiritual
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Babylon, from
literal to spiritual," what?
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"Jerusalem, from
literal lands of Israel and
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Babylon to their
spiritual antitypes." What is a
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spiritual antitype
of Babylon? The papacy.
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What is the spiritual
antitype of Jerusalem?
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Duh, the saints of the
Most High. Aren't those the
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two enemies in Daniel 7?
In Revelation 13? Absolutely!
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So, what is
Jerusalem in the period of the
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Christian church?
It's the church! What is
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Jerusalem when
Jerusalem was destroyed by the
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Romans? It is literal
Jerusalem. So if we're
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dealing with
literal Jerusalem, Jerusalem
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is literal; if we're
dealing with spiritual
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Jerusalem, Jerusalem,
of course, is symbolic.
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Are you understanding
the principle? By the
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way, when did
probation close for the literal
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Jewish nation? In
the year 34 when Stephen
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was stoned. There,
you transition to what? To
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the Christian church,
which is now Jerusalem.
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Not literal Jerusalem-
symbolic, or spiritual,
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Jerusalem. Now,
let's go to the bottom of
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page 212. "When the
second part of Luke 21:24
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describes the trampling
of Jerusalem, it is not
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referring to," what?
"To the physical city
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of brick and
mortar. Jesus is," what?
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"Personifying the
city." He's treating the city
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as a person, in other
words. Notice the following
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text that used the
word 'Jerusalem' to refer to
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the people in the
city. 2 Kings 24:14-15.
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Speaking about Nebuchadnezzar
when he conquered Jerusalem,
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it says, "And he carried
into captivity all Jerusalem."
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Wow, pretty
difficult to transfer the whole
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physical city to
Babylon, right? What does it
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mean when it says,
"He carried into captivity
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all Jerusalem"? It's
the people of Jerusalem.
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All the captains.
You have the definition.
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All the "mighty men of
valor," 10,000 captives,
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and all the craftsmen
and smiths! None remained
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except the poorest people
of the land. So, Jerusalem
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is defined as the what?
As the people that lived
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in the city. Jesus
in Luke 19:41-44 said
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something similar.
Jesus is descending the Mount
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of Olives to
Jerusalem to enter the temple
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for the final times of
His ministry, and we're
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told there, "Now as
He drew near, He saw the
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city and wept over
it, saying, 'If you had
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known, even you"...
Who is He talking to?
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The city! Can a city
really hear what He's
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saying? Once
again, Jerusalem refers to
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what? To the inhabitants.
"Now as He drew near,
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He saw the city and
wept over it, saying,
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'If you had known,
even you, especially this in
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your day, the
things that make for your
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peace. However, now they
are hidden from your eyes,
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for days will come
upon you when your enemies
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will build an
embankment around you, surround
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you, and close you
in on every side and
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level you and your
children within you"...
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So it's not only the
physical city, but what?
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The children that live
there. "Your children within you
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to the ground, and
they will not leave in you
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one stone upon another,
because you did not know
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the time of your visitation."
So what is Jerusalem?
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In the Old Testament,
Jerusalem is the population
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of Jerusalem. In
the church age, what is
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Jerusalem? It is the
members of the Christian
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church; it is globalized,
if you please. Notice
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also Matthew
23:37-39. Once again, Jesus
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personifies Jerusalem.
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem..."
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[continues
reading text on-screen]
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So it's the children,
right? That is the city.
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[continues reading text]
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-he's speaking about Jerusalem-
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[continues text]
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So far so good?
Clear? Okay. Now, let's go to
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the four key
elements in Luke 21:24, the
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second half of the
verse, and Revelation 11:2.
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What do these two
verses have in common? Is there
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a mention of
Jerusalem in both? Yes. Is there
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a mention of
trampling in both? Yes. Is there
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a mention of Gentiles
in both? [Yes.] Is there
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a mention of times
in both? Yes. In Luke,
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it is the times of
the Gentiles, whereas in
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the book of Revelation
it is specified as what?
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42 months. So what are
the times of the Gentiles?
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The times of the Gentiles
are 42 months. Now let's
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notice Revelation
11:2-3. This is what we already
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studied earlier
today. [reads text on-screen]
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"For it has been
given," is the usual way that
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it was translated,
but we notice that the
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better translation is
what? "For it was given
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to the Gentiles." When
was it given to the Gentiles?
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In what year? In the
year 538. "It was given
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to the Gentiles," and
what would the Gentiles
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do after 538? "And they
will tread the Holy City"-
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what is the Holy
City? [Jerusalem.] Yeah,
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Jerusalem. What kind
of Jerusalem? [Spiritual.]
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Spiritual
Jerusalem, because here, we're
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in the Christian age.
We're no longer dealing
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with literal Israel;
we're dealing with the
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Christian age. Now let's
read, once again, Revelation
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11:2-3. "However,
leave out the court which is
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outside the temple
and do not measure it, for
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it was given to
the Gentiles, and they
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will tread the Holy
City underfoot for 42 months,
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and I will give
power to my two witnesses,
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and they will
prophesy 1,260 days, clothed in
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sackcloth." Are the
42 months and the 1,260
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days the same
period? [Yes.] Yes, they are
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the same period.
Now, here comes the key
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point: When John wrote
Revelation 11:2, at the
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end of the first century,
it is believed that John
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wrote the book of Revelation
around the year 95 A.D.
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When was the city
of Jerusalem destroyed?
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In the year 70, so
the city had already been
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destroyed-for how
long? At least for 25 years.
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So when John wrote Revelation
11:2, at the end of the
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first century, the
Romans had destroyed the literal
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city of Jerusalem
and it had been in ruins
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for 25 years. So can
Revelation 11:2 apply
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to literal
Jerusalem? No! The Gentiles had
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already taken the Jews
captive, so this cannot
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refer to the
trampling of the literal city of
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Jerusalem in the year
70 A.D. Even the literal
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treading down of
the outer sanctuary had
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taken place more than
42 months before John's
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time. So even if
you take the 42 months
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as being literal,
that doesn't amount to 25
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years, implying
that the number was what?
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It can't be a literal
number, because Jerusalem
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was destroyed 25
years before. So even if you
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say "42 months
before John wrote," that's
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only three-and-a-half
years...so it doesn't
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square. So once again,
even the literal treading
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down of the outer
sanctuary had taken place
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more than 42
months before John's time,
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implying-this is the
proof of the year/day principle-
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implying that the
number was what? Symbolic for
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the whole period from
its devastation in some
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sense until it's
what? Until its restoration.
00:18:17.63\00:18:21.63
So, Revelation 11:2
contains the very same
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four elements that
Jesus mentioned in Luke 21:24-
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the second half of the
verse. Holy City-Jerusalem-
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trampling, Gentiles,
and 42 months (refers
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to times of the Gentiles).
Are we on a good track
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here? Good. Now, who
are the Gentiles that
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are mentioned
here? Remember we talked
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about the Gentiles
this morning? Remember we
00:18:49.36\00:18:51.83
read from Albert
Barnes, the Bible commentator?
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Who did he say
the Gentiles were? The
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Roman Catholic
papacy, and he was right on
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target, wasn't he?
Who are the Gentiles, and
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what does the word
'Jerusalem' mean? We
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have already pointed
out that Jerusalem during
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the Christian dispensation
refers to God's faithful
00:19:08.58\00:19:12.75
church. We did that
this morning. And 'Gentiles'
00:19:12.81\00:19:16.35
refers to those who
are enemies of Christ's
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faithful church. And
then you can read all of these
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texts that we have
here; we don't have time to
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read all of these
texts, but I hope that when
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you get home, you'll
sit down and read all
00:19:28.80\00:19:31.03
of these verses that
I have in parentheses.
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We just can't go through
all of them. Next paragraph.
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In Revelation 11:1, the
angel told John to measure
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what? The temple
and those who worship in
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it. Now we're going-
Revelation 11:1, does
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that belong with
chapter 11? [No.] No. What does
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it belong with?
Revelation chapter 10. It's the
00:19:52.19\00:19:56.26
conclusion to
Revelation 10. You say, "How do
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you know that?" Well,
let me just summarize;
00:19:59.63\00:20:01.16
we're gonna study Revelation
10 in detail. Revelation
00:20:01.23\00:20:04.83
10 ends by the angel
telling John, "You must
00:20:04.93\00:20:08.84
prophesy again to
nations, tongues, peoples, and
00:20:10.07\00:20:13.17
kings." Okay? And
then, in the very next verse,
00:20:13.27\00:20:17.18
you have the
measuring of the temple. Are you
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following the sequence?
So, the Great Disappointment
00:20:21.62\00:20:27.59
in 1844, the experience
that was sweet and then
00:20:27.66\00:20:32.89
turned bitter, God says,
"You must prophesy again,"
00:20:32.99\00:20:37.83
of course with new
understanding. So what
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began immediately after
the Great Disappointment?
00:20:40.47\00:20:43.30
What great insight
did Hiram Edson have the
00:20:43.37\00:20:45.51
very next day as he
was crossing a field with
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one of his friends? He
says, "I saw distinctly
00:20:50.98\00:20:54.78
and clearly that
instead of Jesus coming to the
00:20:54.88\00:20:57.09
earth on October 22,
1844, he entered from the Holy
00:20:57.15\00:21:00.82
to the Most Holy
Place. Is that measuring the
00:21:00.92\00:21:04.66
temple? So does Revelation
11:1 belong with chapter
00:21:04.73\00:21:10.57
10? Yeah! It speaks
about what we are to prophesy
00:21:10.63\00:21:13.94
again about. We're
supposed to prophesy
00:21:14.00\00:21:15.90
again about the
measuring of the temple, which
00:21:16.00\00:21:19.77
is the judgment.
The hour of His judgment
00:21:19.87\00:21:21.81
has come - the
first angel's message. Are
00:21:22.41\00:21:25.81
we going okay? Now, in
Revelation 11:1, the angel
00:21:25.91\00:21:31.09
told John to measure
the temple and those who
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worship in it, but
not to measure the court
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because it was given
to the Gentiles for 42
00:21:36.99\00:21:40.76
months. When John
wrote the book of Revelation,
00:21:40.86\00:21:43.93
Rome had already destroyed
the literal temple, and
00:21:44.03\00:21:46.90
the literal Jews had
been scattered among the
00:21:47.00\00:21:49.34
nations. This means
that the temple referred to
00:21:49.44\00:21:52.57
here must be the one
where? It must be the
00:21:52.67\00:21:57.31
one in heaven. And the
worshipers must be those
00:21:57.41\00:22:01.22
who worship there
what? Spiritually. Let me ask
00:22:01.32\00:22:05.55
you: Can we worship
in heaven? Can we come
00:22:05.65\00:22:09.22
boldly to the throne
of grace in heaven? [Yes.]
00:22:09.32\00:22:12.29
Can we enter the
sanctuary in heaven? [Yes.] How?
00:22:12.39\00:22:14.96
By faith! Spiritually,
we get into it. Spiritual
00:22:15.90\00:22:20.37
Jerusalem can
worship in heaven, by faith.
00:22:20.47\00:22:24.74
So, basically, we are
to understand that the
00:22:25.87\00:22:28.68
temple is the
heavenly sanctuary literally,
00:22:28.78\00:22:31.71
and the church, what?
Symbolically or spiritually.
00:22:32.88\00:22:38.09
Now, there's not only
a link between Revelation
00:22:39.02\00:22:43.56
11:2-3 and Luke
21:24, the second half of the
00:22:43.66\00:22:51.50
verse. There's also a
link between Revelation
00:22:51.60\00:22:54.50
11:2-3 and Daniel 7
and 8. This is where it's
00:22:54.60\00:22:59.31
gonna become even
clearer. Let's pursue that.
00:22:59.41\00:23:02.64
According to Revelation
11:2, the trampling of
00:23:03.41\00:23:07.35
the city occurs for
a period of how long?
00:23:07.45\00:23:09.95
42 months, also
described in the next verse-that
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is, verse 3-as what?
1,260 days. Don't forget
00:23:14.92\00:23:21.76
this. So, are the
1,260 days and the 42 months
00:23:21.83\00:23:25.93
the same period expressed
with different terminology?
00:23:26.07\00:23:29.50
Yes. Now notice -
this links the 42 months of
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verse 2 with the
1,260 days of verse 3. I'm
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gonna go slow, because
this is critically important.
00:23:39.01\00:23:41.18
Furthermore-even more-
it links Revelation 11:2-3
00:23:41.88\00:23:47.36
with the 1,260 days of
Revelation what? 12:14.
00:23:48.22\00:23:53.36
Let's go there to Revelation
chapter 12 and verse 14.
00:23:54.83\00:23:57.97
So is there a connection
between Revelation 11:2-3,
00:23:59.10\00:24:02.20
Luke 21:24-the
second half of the verse-and
00:24:03.87\00:24:07.24
Revelation 12:14? Yes.
Let's notice Revelation 12
00:24:08.81\00:24:12.81
and verse 14. Here,
the dragon is pursuing the
00:24:13.52\00:24:18.49
woman. For how long?
Well, let's read. "But
00:24:18.59\00:24:24.26
the woman..."
[text resumes on-screen]
00:24:24.39\00:24:28.03
Now, let's go back
to verse 6. [reads text]
00:24:37.64\00:24:42.61
Is that the same
period as Revelation 11:2-3?
00:24:50.55\00:24:54.06
[Yes.] Is it the times
of the Gentiles? Absolutely!
00:24:54.46\00:24:58.56
Now, let's continue
here. Does Revelation
00:24:59.53\00:25:03.53
13:5 also mention
42 months, which are
00:25:03.63\00:25:07.27
mentioned there
in Revelation 11:2-3?
00:25:07.40\00:25:10.74
Let's go to Revelation
chapter 13 - Revelation
00:25:11.74\00:25:14.88
chapter 13 and let's
read verse 5. This is
00:25:14.98\00:25:17.71
speaking about the
beast. What is the beast? The
00:25:17.81\00:25:22.08
papacy. What is the
little horn? The papacy.
00:25:22.18\00:25:25.92
Now, notice Revelation
13:5. "And he," that is,
00:25:26.89\00:25:31.23
the beast...
[resumes text on-screen]
00:25:31.33\00:25:34.00
So notice the
verses here where we have
00:25:43.30\00:25:46.04
the bullet points. 42
months (Revelation 11:2),
00:25:46.14\00:25:49.58
1,260 days (Revelation 11:3),
1,260 days (Revelation 12:14),
00:25:50.25\00:25:57.52
42 months (Revelation
13:5)... and did you notice we
00:25:58.19\00:26:03.59
have "time, times, and
the dividing of time," also
00:26:03.69\00:26:06.80
there in Revelation chapter
12? Where do we find that
00:26:06.90\00:26:09.10
also? In Daniel 7:25.
So here's my question:
00:26:09.20\00:26:14.04
Is Revelation
11:2-3, Luke 21:24-the second
00:26:15.70\00:26:23.75
part of the verse-Revelation
12:6 & 14, Revelation
00:26:23.81\00:26:29.82
13:5, Daniel 7:25...
Are those verses addressing
00:26:29.92\00:26:36.36
the very same
powers? [Yes.] Yes! So now,
00:26:36.46\00:26:41.60
you have a very interesting
issue, because once again,
00:26:41.66\00:26:45.70
the importance of
the literary structure.
00:26:45.80\00:26:47.47
Revelation chapter
12, for example, mentions
00:26:48.80\00:26:50.71
that the dragon who
persecutes the woman
00:26:50.77\00:26:53.38
for time, times, and
the dividing of time -
00:26:53.48\00:26:55.74
that's 538 to 1798.
But now, wait a minute-
00:26:55.84\00:26:58.51
didn't we, in
chapter 11, study about the
00:26:59.98\00:27:01.58
French Revolution?
Well, that's in the 1790s!
00:27:01.72\00:27:06.32
So is Revelation 11 and
12 in chronological order?
00:27:07.66\00:27:11.29
[No.] They're not
in chronological order!
00:27:11.39\00:27:13.29
What is Revelation 12
doing? It is now going
00:27:13.83\00:27:16.40
to go back, and it's
going to amplify some
00:27:16.50\00:27:18.57
details that we have in
Revelation 11. Revelation
00:27:18.70\00:27:22.20
13 mentions the 42 months,
so there's still something
00:27:22.30\00:27:24.81
to say in Revelation 13
that wasn't said in Revelation
00:27:24.91\00:27:27.94
12 that wasn't said
in Revelation 11! Are you
00:27:28.04\00:27:31.81
following me? This is the
importance of the literary
00:27:31.95\00:27:34.45
structure of the
book of Revelation. Now,
00:27:34.55\00:27:37.79
let's continue.
Middle of the page, pg. 215.
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In order to
understand Revelation 11:2-3,
00:27:40.86\00:27:43.43
we must go back to
the Old Testament roots of
00:27:43.93\00:27:46.90
this prophecy, and we
find those roots where?
00:27:47.00\00:27:50.07
In Daniel 7:21 and
25, Daniel 8:11-13, and
00:27:50.83\00:27:57.31
Daniel 11:31-35. In
these verses, we find a power
00:27:57.41\00:28:03.21
that tramples underfoot
what? It tramples underfoot
00:28:03.35\00:28:08.12
the temple of God
its true worshipers not
00:28:09.08\00:28:13.96
by the Roman
Empire, but by what? By a
00:28:14.06\00:28:19.29
rebellious little
horn that introduced an
00:28:19.43\00:28:22.70
idolatrous
Christian worship that caused
00:28:22.80\00:28:25.40
desolation. Let's go
to Daniel chapter 8 for a
00:28:25.90\00:28:29.60
moment, where the little
horn is described. Daniel
00:28:29.70\00:28:32.61
chapter 8. Is there an
idea of trampling in Daniel
00:28:32.74\00:28:38.08
chapter 8? Yes! The
little horn. Is that the
00:28:38.18\00:28:42.22
same little horn as
Daniel 7? Yes. So notice Daniel
00:28:42.32\00:28:46.39
chapter 7, and
let's read beginning with
00:28:46.52\00:28:49.89
verse 11. "He even
exalted himself as high as the
00:28:49.99\00:28:53.33
Prince of the
host." Who is the Prince of
00:28:53.43\00:28:54.93
the host? Jesus.
"And by him"-by the little
00:28:55.00\00:28:59.53
horn-"the daily
was taken away." What
00:28:59.67\00:29:03.41
is the daily? It's
the continual ministration
00:29:03.51\00:29:06.68
of Jesus first in
the court on earth, and
00:29:06.78\00:29:09.88
then in the Holy
Place of the sanctuary. So,
00:29:09.98\00:29:12.85
is this work that
the little horn is doing
00:29:13.42\00:29:15.08
having something to
do with the sanctuary?
00:29:15.18\00:29:17.35
Absolutely! It
continues, "And the place of his
00:29:17.79\00:29:20.72
sanctuary was cast down.
Because of the transgression,
00:29:20.86\00:29:24.53
an army was given
over to the horn to oppose
00:29:24.63\00:29:27.53
the daily, and he cast
the truth to the ground.
00:29:27.66\00:29:31.37
He did this all and,"
what? "He did this all and
00:29:31.87\00:29:36.17
prospered." So,
let's go down to verse 13.
00:29:36.81\00:29:42.44
"And I heard a holy
one speaking, and another
00:29:42.88\00:29:44.81
one said to that
certain one who was speaking,
00:29:44.88\00:29:48.12
'How long will the
vision be concerning the daily
00:29:48.18\00:29:50.65
sacrifices, the
giving of both sanctuary and
00:29:50.75\00:29:53.29
the host to be,'" what?
"'To be trampled underfoot.'"
00:29:53.39\00:29:57.93
So does the little
horn in Daniel 8 trample
00:29:59.09\00:30:01.76
underfoot the sanctuary
and the Prince and the host?
00:30:01.86\00:30:05.33
Yes. In Revelation
11:2-3, is that what happens
00:30:05.77\00:30:09.74
also? Trampling
of Jerusalem for the
00:30:09.84\00:30:12.47
times of the
Gentiles? Absolutely! Are all of
00:30:12.57\00:30:15.88
these prophecies interrelated?
They most certainly are.
00:30:16.01\00:30:19.61
Now, let's go to the
next point. According to
00:30:20.05\00:30:24.25
Daniel 7:21 and 25,
this little horn blasphemed
00:30:24.35\00:30:29.29
God and persecuted His
people for time, times,
00:30:29.42\00:30:33.93
and the dividing of
time. So, let's consider the
00:30:34.06\00:30:37.87
historical
framework of the little horn's
00:30:37.97\00:30:40.14
work in Daniel 7.
First of all, you have what
00:30:40.24\00:30:43.54
in Daniel 7? You have
a lion, which represents
00:30:43.64\00:30:47.84
which kingdom?
Babylon. Then you have a bear -
00:30:47.98\00:30:50.71
the Medes and Persians.
Then you have a leopard -
00:30:51.35\00:30:53.82
Greece. Then you have
a dragon beast - Rome.
00:30:54.28\00:30:58.35
Then the dragon beast
sprouts ten horns. That
00:30:58.85\00:31:02.62
is what came as a result
of the barbarian invasions,
00:31:02.72\00:31:06.63
the divisions of the
Roman Empire. And then
00:31:06.76\00:31:09.13
once the divisions are
there... This is well into
00:31:09.23\00:31:13.64
the Christian period,
isn't it? Because Rome
00:31:13.74\00:31:16.47
by this point has
fallen; the kingdom has been
00:31:16.57\00:31:20.11
divided into ten
kingdoms. You have a little horn
00:31:20.21\00:31:23.01
that rises, and then how
long does that little horn
00:31:23.14\00:31:26.01
rule? Time, times,
and the dividing of time.
00:31:26.11\00:31:29.62
Let's read it: Daniel
7:25. "The little horn shall
00:31:29.75\00:31:32.92
speak pompous words
against the Most High."
00:31:33.05\00:31:35.06
[text continues on-screen]
00:31:35.59\00:31:38.16
So let me ask you,
is Daniel 7:25 connected
00:31:47.44\00:31:51.24
with Revelation 11:2-3?
[Yes.] How about Revelation
00:31:51.34\00:31:56.18
12:6 and 14? [Yes.]
How about Revelation
00:31:56.91\00:32:00.18
13:5? [Yes.] How
about Luke 21:24, the second
00:32:00.28\00:32:05.25
part of the verse?
They're all linked! They're all
00:32:05.35\00:32:08.56
describing the identical
same period. Let's continue
00:32:08.69\00:32:12.16
here. Immediately
after the nefarious work of
00:32:12.26\00:32:15.76
the little horn,
what begins in Daniel 7?
00:32:15.83\00:32:20.54
The judgment sits,
and the books are opened.
00:32:24.87\00:32:28.74
So immediately after
the rule of the little
00:32:29.08\00:32:30.68
horn, what begins?
The judgment. The Father
00:32:30.81\00:32:35.72
sits on His throne,
and then the Son comes to
00:32:35.82\00:32:39.22
the Father to
receive His what? To receive
00:32:39.32\00:32:42.19
His kingdom. What
is His kingdom? The
00:32:42.29\00:32:45.19
people had belonged
to the kingdom. How does
00:32:45.29\00:32:47.60
He determine which
people belong to His
00:32:47.70\00:32:49.86
kingdom? He has to do
a judgment. So notice,
00:32:49.96\00:32:53.57
immediately after the
work of the little horn,
00:32:53.64\00:32:55.77
you have the judgment.
So what would you expect
00:32:56.71\00:32:59.67
after the 1,260
days, or the 42 months, on
00:33:00.61\00:33:04.81
which the Gentiles
trampled upon Jerusalem?
00:33:04.91\00:33:09.65
What would you
expect next? Do you have to
00:33:09.75\00:33:14.06
be King Solomon to
figure it out? [laughter] No!
00:33:14.16\00:33:17.16
You would expect
the judgment, right? So,
00:33:17.66\00:33:20.46
does Revelation chapter
11 tell us that after the
00:33:20.53\00:33:24.57
period of the rule of
the little horn, the temple
00:33:24.63\00:33:27.27
was gonna be
measured? Absolutely! So the
00:33:27.37\00:33:30.24
sequence is the same.
So, let's continue here.
00:33:30.34\00:33:33.07
Immediately after
the nefarious work of the
00:33:34.28\00:33:36.58
little horn, the
judgment in the heavenly temple
00:33:36.64\00:33:38.41
begins! This order of
events is very similar
00:33:38.51\00:33:41.88
to Revelation 11:1-3,
where the measuring of
00:33:41.98\00:33:45.52
the heavenly
"naos"- that's the temple-
00:33:45.62\00:33:47.42
follows the
trampling of Jerusalem for 42
00:33:47.96\00:33:50.73
months. So, the little
horn rules time, times,
00:33:50.83\00:33:54.43
and the dividing of time...
After that, the judgment.
00:33:54.53\00:33:56.60
In Revelation chapter
11, the Gentiles trampled
00:33:57.10\00:33:59.93
Jerusalem for 42 months.
After that, the measuring
00:34:00.04\00:34:02.84
of the temple. You know,
our idea of the investigative
00:34:02.94\00:34:06.21
judgment is not some
invention by Ellen G.
00:34:06.31\00:34:09.11
White, like many
of these magazines on
00:34:09.21\00:34:15.85
the fringes of Adventism
say - not to mention them
00:34:15.98\00:34:18.92
because this is gonna
be broadcast on television.
00:34:19.02\00:34:21.56
I don't want to give
them any free advertisement.
00:34:21.66\00:34:23.63
[laughter] These verses
prove that the measuring
00:34:23.73\00:34:28.90
of the temple
follows the trampling of the
00:34:29.00\00:34:31.03
City, and not vice
versa. Is my translation
00:34:31.13\00:34:34.57
correct? "Was given to
the Gentiles" in the light
00:34:34.70\00:34:37.31
of everything we're
studying? Absolutely.
00:34:37.41\00:34:39.67
Now, continuing.
Daniel 8 further amplifies the
00:34:40.18\00:34:43.21
nefarious work of
the little horn power by
00:34:43.31\00:34:45.61
specifically saying
that it trampled what?
00:34:45.71\00:34:49.95
The sanctuary and
the host, language very
00:34:50.42\00:34:54.49
similar to what?
To Revelation 11:2-3.
00:34:54.59\00:34:59.06
Daniel 8 describes
two distinct stages of the
00:34:59.83\00:35:02.66
little horn power.
One stage is horizontal
00:35:02.80\00:35:06.10
and the other, vertical.
You see, the little horn-
00:35:06.23\00:35:08.44
there's only one
little horn in Daniel 8 that
00:35:08.57\00:35:10.71
illustrates both
Rome's: pagan Rome and papal
00:35:10.84\00:35:13.38
Rome. At first, the
little horn is conquering
00:35:13.48\00:35:17.68
geographically-horizontally.
But then, at some point,
00:35:17.81\00:35:22.12
the little horn
morphs. It morphs into a power
00:35:22.68\00:35:26.25
that attacks heaven.
Let's read the verses.
00:35:26.35\00:35:29.46
Daniel 8:9. And out
of one of them, out of
00:35:29.56\00:35:32.49
the four wins, into
which the kingdom of Alexander
00:35:32.59\00:35:38.10
the Great was
divided. [text on-screen]
00:35:38.20\00:35:42.50
Does this have
anything to do with an attack
00:35:46.34\00:35:48.14
against heaven? No.
Notice verses 10-13.
00:35:48.64\00:35:51.91
We just read
that. [text on-screen]
00:35:52.01\00:35:55.12
Could this be,
possibly, the reason why a third
00:36:02.92\00:36:05.73
of the stars were
eclipsed? [reads text on-screen]
00:36:05.83\00:36:11.47
In other words, he
even attacks Jesus and His
00:36:13.30\00:36:15.20
ministry in the
sanctuary! "And by him"-that is,
00:36:15.30\00:36:17.84
by the little horn"-
00:36:17.94\00:36:19.27
the daily was
taken away, which is the
00:36:19.31\00:36:20.94
ministration of
Jesus in the Holy Place...
00:36:21.04\00:36:23.31
[finishes off text]
00:36:23.45\00:36:26.11
"...an army was given"-
this is a state, by the way.
00:36:27.68\00:36:30.12
[resumes text on-screen]
00:36:30.29\00:36:32.69
How long did it
prosper? 42 months; 1,260 days;
00:36:39.59\00:36:44.73
the times of the
Gentiles; time, times, and the
00:36:45.50\00:36:48.30
dividing of time.
Continues saying in verse 13...
00:36:48.40\00:36:51.97
[reads text on-screen]
00:36:52.07\00:36:55.01
What is the answer?
Unto 2,300 days, then
00:37:07.06\00:37:10.56
the sanctuary would be
cleansed. In other words,
00:37:10.69\00:37:12.29
the judgment will what?
The judgment will begin.
00:37:12.39\00:37:15.86
Revelation 13
verses 1 and 2 and verses
00:37:17.13\00:37:19.43
5 through 7 also
mention the 42 months. There,
00:37:19.53\00:37:23.51
the beast persecutes
the saints, blasphemes
00:37:23.61\00:37:26.31
the heavenly
tabernacle and those who dwell
00:37:26.44\00:37:29.04
in heaven. Is that
parallel to Daniel 8?
00:37:29.11\00:37:31.25
Did the little horn of
Daniel 8 persecute God's
00:37:34.38\00:37:37.05
people, the saints?
Yes. Did it blaspheme
00:37:37.19\00:37:40.42
the heavenly tabernacle?
Revelation 13 says that!
00:37:40.59\00:37:44.33
The sequence of powers
is identical to the one
00:37:45.13\00:37:48.06
in Daniel 7-lion,
bear, leopard, dragon, ten
00:37:48.16\00:37:52.27
horns, and beast-whereas
in the Old Testament, it was
00:37:52.40\00:37:55.57
lion, bear, leopard, dragon,
ten horns, and little horn.
00:37:55.67\00:37:59.64
Little horn was
the same as the beast.
00:38:00.11\00:38:02.44
The inevitable conclusion
is that this Jerusalem
00:38:03.04\00:38:05.71
that is described
in Revelation 11:2-3
00:38:06.48\00:38:08.68
is the Christian era-
it's taking place in the
00:38:09.12\00:38:12.99
Christian era-after
the demise of what? Of the
00:38:13.09\00:38:17.46
Roman Empire. So, are
we dealing with literal
00:38:17.53\00:38:19.86
Jerusalem in the
second half of Luke 21:24?
00:38:19.96\00:38:24.03
No. It is another
Jerusalem; it is spiritual
00:38:24.43\00:38:29.17
Jerusalem. So, you have
here a link between Daniel
00:38:29.30\00:38:33.21
7 and 8 and
Revelation 11 and 13. You have
00:38:33.27\00:38:37.11
a lion, a bear, a
leopard, a dragon, ten horns,
00:38:37.18\00:38:40.18
and then a beast
that rules for 42 months.
00:38:40.72\00:38:43.28
Let's read the
verses. [text on-screen]
00:38:43.39\00:38:47.46
Does that connect
with Revelation 11:2-3?
00:38:53.63\00:38:57.30
Absolutely! Is the
beast the same as the Gentiles
00:38:57.90\00:39:01.60
in Revelation
11:2-3? Is the beast the same
00:39:03.44\00:39:05.87
as the Gentiles?
[Yes.] Is the little horn the
00:39:05.97\00:39:08.01
same as the
Gentiles? [Yes.] Absolutely! So
00:39:08.11\00:39:10.61
was Albert Barnes
right in what he said? Oh,
00:39:10.68\00:39:14.25
you better believe
it. 'Course, he didn't
00:39:14.35\00:39:16.35
realize the implications
of what he was writing.
00:39:16.42\00:39:19.59
It says...
[reads text on-screen]
00:39:20.06\00:39:22.62
Is that what the
little horn did in Daniel 8?
00:39:25.79\00:39:27.93
Yes! And those who dwell
in heaven. Did the little
00:39:28.93\00:39:32.50
horn in Daniel 8 cast
the stars [from] heaven
00:39:32.57\00:39:34.74
to the earth?
Yeah! Representing God's
00:39:34.84\00:39:37.47
people. [continues reading text]
00:39:37.57\00:39:40.68
Now what about
Daniel 7 and Revelation 12?
00:39:48.08\00:39:50.69
Furthermore, Revelation
11:3 bears a relationship
00:39:51.42\00:39:55.29
with Revelation
12:14, because both refer-
00:39:55.39\00:39:58.49
actually, it should
be Revelation chapter 12
00:39:58.63\00:40:00.26
verse 6-because both
refer to what? To 1,260
00:40:00.36\00:40:06.13
days...or is it
the other way around?
00:40:07.57\00:40:09.54
Let's see here. Revelation
chapter 12 and verse 14.
00:40:10.11\00:40:13.58
...It's verse 6 and
verse 14, actually. Verse 6
00:40:14.74\00:40:17.11
says, "Then the woman
fled to the wilderness
00:40:17.21\00:40:19.21
that she should
be there 1,260 days."
00:40:20.28\00:40:22.95
So, this should be,
Revelation 11:13 bears a close
00:40:23.05\00:40:27.12
relationship with Revelation
12:6, not Revelation 12:14,
00:40:27.22\00:40:32.49
so you need to make
the correction there. Even
00:40:32.59\00:40:34.86
further, the terminology
of Revelation 12:6 shares
00:40:34.96\00:40:39.83
a common language
with Revelation 12:14-that
00:40:39.97\00:40:42.84
should be 12:14
there- and Revelation 12:6,
00:40:42.94\00:40:46.68
in turn, has a connection
with Daniel what? 7:25
00:40:47.31\00:40:51.18
by the common reference
to time, times, and the
00:40:51.81\00:40:55.58
dividing of time.
Let's read those verses so
00:40:55.72\00:40:58.59
we can catch the nuance
very clearly. Revelation
00:40:58.72\00:41:01.66
12:13-14. [reads text]
00:41:01.79\00:41:05.36
In verse-
actually, verse 6. It says-
00:41:20.48\00:41:25.25
this would be Revelation
12:6 and the other one
00:41:26.31\00:41:28.78
should be Revelation
12... You need to make those
00:41:28.92\00:41:31.79
corrections there,
and I'm sure Genie is
00:41:31.92\00:41:34.79
writing this down.
But anyway, Revelation
00:41:34.89\00:41:36.76
chapter 12
says... [text on-screen]
00:41:36.86\00:41:41.30
So, in Revelation
12, you have 1,260 days
00:41:48.30\00:41:51.44
and you have time,
times, and the dividing of time.
00:41:51.54\00:41:53.68
Where does that come
from-time, times, and
00:41:54.14\00:41:56.34
dividing of time? It
comes from Daniel 7:25.
00:41:56.44\00:42:00.25
Let's read it. "He
shall speak pompous words
00:42:00.38\00:42:02.38
against the Most High,
shall persecute the saints
00:42:02.48\00:42:04.82
of the Most High,
shall intend to change times
00:42:04.92\00:42:07.42
and law, then the
saints shall be given into his
00:42:07.49\00:42:09.82
hand for a time,
times, and half a time. Are
00:42:09.89\00:42:14.70
you following me? [Yes.]
So must we study Revelation
00:42:14.80\00:42:18.60
11- actually, verse 2
through verse 6, which
00:42:18.70\00:42:22.90
is describing the
fourth trumpet, or the 1,260
00:42:23.00\00:42:25.81
years. Must we study
that passage along with
00:42:25.94\00:42:30.31
Luke 21:24, the second
half of the verse, along
00:42:30.41\00:42:34.32
with Daniel chapter
7, Daniel chapter 8,
00:42:34.38\00:42:37.82
Revelation chapter 12,
and Revelation chapter 13?
00:42:38.25\00:42:41.52
They're all
describing the same event -
00:42:42.02\00:42:45.23
the same power. Now,
let's go to the middle
00:42:45.33\00:42:48.83
of page 218.
Therefore, we can safely reach
00:42:48.93\00:42:53.27
the conclusion that
the 3.5 times, the 1,260
00:42:53.37\00:42:57.91
days, and the 42 months
are all parallel expressions.
00:42:58.01\00:43:01.94
A careful study of
these prophecies indicates
00:43:02.71\00:43:05.51
clearly that their
fulfillment took place
00:43:05.61\00:43:09.65
during a
1,260-year period after the
00:43:09.75\00:43:15.12
disintegration of the
Roman Empire. This means
00:43:15.22\00:43:18.66
that the Jerusalem spoken
of in Luke 21 is not literal
00:43:18.76\00:43:24.03
Jerusalem, but rather
what? Spiritual Jerusalem,
00:43:24.13\00:43:29.10
because literal Jerusalem
had already been devastated
00:43:29.20\00:43:32.87
by the year 70 A.D. Now,
once again, Albert Barnes.
00:43:33.48\00:43:40.12
I wish that he had
been here today. [laughter]
00:43:42.32\00:43:46.72
He didn't have all
the light, you know? He
00:43:46.82\00:43:48.76
wrote more than a
century ago, actually. So notice
00:43:48.82\00:43:54.26
what he wrote - right
on target. "The 42 months
00:43:54.36\00:43:58.97
would embrace the whole
period of the ascendancy
00:44:00.14\00:44:03.84
and prevalence of the
papacy." So did Albert
00:44:03.94\00:44:06.31
Barnes believe in
the year-day principle?
00:44:06.37\00:44:08.58
Of course he did!
The Protestant reformers
00:44:09.24\00:44:11.35
believed in the
year-day principle! But you know
00:44:11.41\00:44:14.32
what disappeared?
You need to read my book,
00:44:14.38\00:44:16.38
Futurism's
Incredible Journey. There, I
00:44:17.09\00:44:20.46
document why the Protestant
world abandoned the year-day
00:44:20.56\00:44:24.03
principle: Because
the Millerites used the
00:44:24.13\00:44:27.40
year-day principle
to say that Jesus was
00:44:27.50\00:44:30.27
coming on October
22, 1844, and when Jesus
00:44:30.37\00:44:33.80
did not come, they
said, "The method was wrong."
00:44:34.54\00:44:38.21
Sad. So, "The 42
months would embrace the whole
00:44:40.58\00:44:45.61
period of the
ascendancy and prevalence of the
00:44:45.71\00:44:47.68
papacy." Would that be
more than 42 literal months?
00:44:47.78\00:44:50.49
Of course. "Or the
whole time of the continuance
00:44:51.25\00:44:54.66
of that corrupt domination
in which Christendom was
00:44:54.76\00:44:59.36
to be trodden down
and corrupted by it." So
00:44:59.46\00:45:03.20
according to him,
who are the Gentiles?
00:45:03.30\00:45:06.17
The papacy. And what
is Jerusalem? Christendom!
00:45:07.64\00:45:13.38
Right? And then
it continues. "That's
00:45:13.84\00:45:16.44
regarded, this
would properly express the
00:45:16.51\00:45:19.25
time of the ascendancy
of the papal power and
00:45:19.35\00:45:21.62
the end of the 42
months, or 1,260 years would
00:45:21.75\00:45:27.12
denote the time when
the influence of that
00:45:27.22\00:45:30.23
power would cease." In
other words, it gives the
00:45:30.33\00:45:33.43
starting point, and
it gives us what? The
00:45:33.53\00:45:36.36
ending point of the
dominion of the papacy.
00:45:36.43\00:45:39.83
"Even the rocks will cry
out." [laughs] If Adventists
00:45:41.20\00:45:44.91
don't see it, the
Lord uses people in other
00:45:45.01\00:45:48.41
churches, also,
that have gleams of light
00:45:48.48\00:45:50.68
to help people say,
"Well, those Adventists
00:45:51.51\00:45:53.85
are not so crazy, after
all." Now, let's go to our
00:45:53.95\00:45:57.65
final point in this
segment. Thoughts on
00:45:57.75\00:46:00.56
Daniel 9:26-27. How
many destructions of
00:46:00.62\00:46:05.03
Jerusalem do you have
in Daniel 9:26-27? Two.
00:46:05.09\00:46:11.77
You say, "Now, wait a
minute. Actually, there's
00:46:13.13\00:46:15.37
three." No, wait a
minute. Let's read the
00:46:15.40\00:46:20.14
verses. Daniel
chapter 9:26-27 - let's read
00:46:20.18\00:46:24.18
the paragraph, and then
we'll go to those verses.
00:46:24.25\00:46:26.05
We have reached the
conclusion that the two
00:46:26.55\00:46:28.72
halves of Luke 21:24
describe two distinct
00:46:28.78\00:46:32.42
trampling's of two different
Jerusalem's. The first half
00:46:32.49\00:46:36.79
describes literal Jerusalem
trampled by the literal
00:46:36.86\00:46:39.66
Romans. The second
half of the verse describes
00:46:39.73\00:46:42.66
the trampling of
spiritual Jerusalem-that is, the
00:46:42.73\00:46:45.07
church-by spiritual
Rome- that is, the papacy.
00:46:45.13\00:46:48.84
Revelation 11:2
expands upon the second half
00:46:49.30\00:46:52.44
of Luke 21:24. Now,
let's read Daniel 9:26-27.
00:46:52.47\00:46:59.08
You remember that God
allotted to the Jews how
00:46:59.88\00:47:02.15
many weeks? 70 weeks.
He says, "I'm gonna give
00:47:02.18\00:47:05.22
you 70 more weeks
of grace. This is your
00:47:05.29\00:47:08.79
opportunity. And if you
don't shape up, I'm gonna
00:47:08.86\00:47:13.53
ship you out." [laughs]
...is basically what He's
00:47:13.56\00:47:16.56
saying. Now, notice
Daniel 9:26. "After the
00:47:16.67\00:47:21.37
62 weeks"...and
that's understood that it's
00:47:21.44\00:47:23.84
the 62 plus the 7,
which is 69. "Messiah shall be
00:47:23.87\00:47:29.78
cut off, but not for
Himself." What is that
00:47:29.84\00:47:33.15
referring to? The death
of Jesus. And the people
00:47:33.21\00:47:37.12
of the prince who
is to come..." Who are
00:47:37.22\00:47:41.02
the people of the prince
who is to come? The people
00:47:41.12\00:47:44.19
are the Jews. And who
is the prince? [Jesus.]
00:47:44.26\00:47:48.10
Jesus! So did the
people destroy their own city?
00:47:48.20\00:47:51.70
Yep. "And the people
of the prince who is to
00:47:52.53\00:47:55.60
come shall," what?
"Destroy the city and
00:47:55.67\00:47:59.31
the sanctuary."
Which city and sanctuary?
00:47:59.37\00:48:01.11
So at the end of
the 70 weeks, what was
00:48:02.64\00:48:04.51
gonna happen? Eventually,
Jerusalem and its sanctuary
00:48:04.55\00:48:08.78
was gonna be what?
Destroyed. When was
00:48:08.88\00:48:11.02
that fulfilled? In
the year 70. And then it
00:48:11.09\00:48:15.56
describes what it's
like. [finishes off the verse]
00:48:15.62\00:48:18.96
So you have the
word, 'desolations', "are
00:48:25.03\00:48:27.44
determined."
[continues reading] Goes back to
00:48:27.50\00:48:31.51
talk about the final
week. [continues reading]
00:48:31.57\00:48:35.34
It refers, once
again, to the destruction of
00:48:38.78\00:48:40.35
Jerusalem. [continues reading]
00:48:40.45\00:48:43.89
Does Matthew 24
refer to the Roman armies
00:48:51.66\00:48:54.20
as the abomination of
00:48:54.33\00:48:55.80
desolation? Absolutely.
[reads back from second line]
00:48:55.90\00:49:00.94
Now, these verses
describe the trampling of what?
00:49:15.78\00:49:18.35
Literal Jerusalem
in the year 70. It is
00:49:19.35\00:49:22.46
significant that the
words 'abomination' and
00:49:22.59\00:49:26.46
then 'desolation'
appear in Matthew 24:15, and
00:49:26.56\00:49:30.90
they reappear here. It
is probable that Daniel
00:49:31.00\00:49:34.60
9:26-27 not only
refers to a future desolation
00:49:34.67\00:49:39.71
of literal Jerusalem
in the year 70, but also
00:49:39.77\00:49:43.35
to the subsequent desolation
at the end of time. This
00:49:43.45\00:49:48.32
seems to be the case,
because the plural form,
00:49:48.42\00:49:50.65
'desolations', means
more than one desolation;
00:49:51.15\00:49:55.86
thus, plural form implies
more than one desolation.
00:49:56.49\00:50:01.16
If this is the case,
then the first part of
00:50:02.03\00:50:04.27
Daniel 9:27 depicts the
first desolation of literal
00:50:04.33\00:50:08.07
Jerusalem in A.D. 70
as does the first part
00:50:08.10\00:50:11.77
of Luke 21:24, while the
second part of Daniel 9:27
00:50:11.84\00:50:17.05
describes the
desolation of what? Of spiritual
00:50:17.48\00:50:20.82
Jerusalem that Jesus
described in the second
00:50:20.88\00:50:23.69
part of Luke 21:24.
Matthew and Mark-now
00:50:23.79\00:50:29.46
listen carefully-Matthew
and Mark referred to this
00:50:29.52\00:50:31.89
period as the what? As
the tribulation, a word
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that Jesus used to
refer to as what? As the
00:50:36.56\00:50:41.30
trampling of
Jerusalem by the Gentiles. So in
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other words, the tribulation
is what? The trampling
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of God's people by the
Gentiles, by the papacy.
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This interpretation
fits very well with the fact
00:50:52.95\00:50:54.98
that Jesus blended
the description of literal
00:50:55.05\00:50:58.79
Jerusalem and
spiritual Jerusalem. You have
00:50:58.89\00:51:03.46
two statements here.
The prophecy which he
00:51:03.53\00:51:06.96
uttered was what?
Twofold in its meaning while
00:51:07.06\00:51:12.57
foreshadowing the destruction
of Jerusalem-the literal
00:51:12.67\00:51:16.00
Jerusalem, that
is-it what? Prefigured also
00:51:16.14\00:51:19.97
the terrors of the last
great day. And incidentally,
00:51:20.04\00:51:24.18
there's something
more here: How many stages
00:51:24.75\00:51:27.22
does the papacy
have? ...Two. What is the
00:51:27.32\00:51:34.29
first stage? The 1,260
years. What will be the
00:51:34.39\00:51:38.86
second stage? When its
deadly wound is healed.
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Did the papacy
trample upon Jerusalem during
00:51:43.00\00:51:46.57
the first period of
its dominion? [Yes.] Is it
00:51:46.67\00:51:49.70
gonna trample upon
Jerusalem, spiritually
00:51:49.80\00:51:52.14
speaking, in the second
stage? [Yes.] So we're to
00:51:52.21\00:51:55.81
understand that,
really, the second stage of the
00:51:55.88\00:51:59.71
papacy is actually
a continuation of the
00:51:59.81\00:52:02.38
first with the
period of the deadly wound
00:52:02.45\00:52:05.02
in between-but it's
the same system persecuting
00:52:05.12\00:52:08.56
the saints of the Most
High. So when Ellen White
00:52:08.66\00:52:11.23
says that this prophecy
is twofold in its meaning,
00:52:11.29\00:52:14.06
she's not only referring
to the destruction of literal
00:52:14.16\00:52:16.83
Jerusalem and then
the attack on God's people
00:52:16.93\00:52:19.73
at the very end of
time. Included also is the
00:52:19.83\00:52:23.34
idea of the tribulation
during the 1,260 years.
00:52:23.44\00:52:26.37
That's what she
says in Desire of Ages.
00:52:26.94\00:52:28.84
Here's another statement:
Great Controversy, pg. 36.
00:52:29.38\00:52:32.01
"The Saviour' s prophecy
concerning the visitation
00:52:32.71\00:52:34.78
of judgments upon Jerusalem
is to have another," what?
00:52:34.88\00:52:38.09
"Another fulfillment
of which that terrible
00:52:38.55\00:52:40.56
desolation was but
a faint shadow. In the
00:52:40.66\00:52:43.99
fate of the chosen
city, we may behold the doom
00:52:44.09\00:52:46.29
of a world that has
rejected God's mercy
00:52:46.39\00:52:49.76
and trampled upon
His love." By the way, do
00:52:49.86\00:52:53.54
you remember in
Daniel chapter 9:26-27, you
00:52:53.60\00:52:57.21
have the two words,
'abominations,' 'desolation'...
00:52:57.31\00:53:00.34
Does the book of Revelation
refer at all to abomination of
00:53:00.98\00:53:03.65
desolation regarding
the end-time? Notice our
00:53:03.75\00:53:07.92
last text:
Revelation 17:4-6 and verses 15
00:53:07.98\00:53:12.65
and 16. Who does
the harlot represent?
00:53:12.72\00:53:16.56
Well, the harlot
is Babylon-but who's
00:53:21.10\00:53:22.86
Babylon? The Roman
Catholic papacy. Right?
00:53:22.96\00:53:27.67
So, let's notice
the end-time application
00:53:28.94\00:53:31.27
of this. Revelation 17:4-6.
Speaking about the harlot...
00:53:31.37\00:53:35.54
[reads text on-screen]
00:53:36.38\00:53:40.82
"...a golden cup full
of..." [Abominations.]
00:53:43.32\00:53:46.29
Ah, there's one of the
key words. [continues reading]
00:53:46.39\00:53:50.19
"...of the martyrs of
Jesus..." Is that what happened
00:54:02.70\00:54:04.47
during the 1,260 years,
the trampling upon God's
00:54:04.57\00:54:07.18
people? Yes. Was it
the same harlot? Yes. Was
00:54:07.28\00:54:11.35
she filled with
the same abominations?
00:54:11.45\00:54:13.72
Yeah, only this is
the end-time dimension;
00:54:13.82\00:54:15.62
there was one during
the 1,260 years. This
00:54:16.55\00:54:19.05
is the last one.
It continues. "When I
00:54:19.12\00:54:21.59
saw her, I marveled
with great amazement."
00:54:21.69\00:54:24.49
And then notice verse
15. What's gonna happen
00:54:24.59\00:54:26.70
to the harlot?
Because of her abominations,
00:54:26.80\00:54:29.96
what's gonna happen?
She will be left what?
00:54:30.10\00:54:33.00
Desolate. Incidentally,
do you know what the
00:54:34.00\00:54:37.67
abomination of desolation
means? It means because
00:54:37.74\00:54:39.74
of the abominations,
desolation is coming.
00:54:39.84\00:54:42.21
That applies, by
the way, to the United
00:54:45.18\00:54:46.51
States. We won't get
into that now. Verse 15:
00:54:46.61\00:54:50.55
"Then he said to me,
'The waters which you
00:54:50.65\00:54:51.99
saw..." [text resumed on-screen]
00:54:52.05\00:54:55.09
Did France hate the
harlot at the end of
00:55:02.16\00:55:04.57
the 1,260 years? Are
the political rulers gonna
00:55:04.67\00:55:09.17
come up with hate
again? Yes! So it says...
00:55:09.24\00:55:12.51
[reads from beginning of text]
00:55:12.57\00:55:15.84
"...and make
her..." There's another key
00:55:16.14\00:55:18.21
word: "Desolate"!
[finishes off verse]
00:55:18.31\00:55:22.45
By the way, that's
a way of saying that
00:55:23.52\00:55:24.85
they're gonna really
be mad. [laughter] Even
00:55:24.89\00:55:29.66
further, the last paragraph,
2 Thessalonians 2 explains
00:55:29.76\00:55:34.76
that there would be a
long period of apostasy
00:55:35.86\00:55:39.03
before Jesus comes.
True or false? Well,
00:55:40.67\00:55:45.94
let's go to 2 Thessalonians
2. We only have a very,
00:55:46.01\00:55:48.18
very short couple of
minutes here, but let's
00:55:48.28\00:55:51.51
go to 2 Thessalonians
chapter 2. Were the
00:55:51.61\00:55:55.12
Thessalonians
expecting Jesus to come in their
00:55:55.22\00:55:57.59
day? Yeah! In 1 Thessalonians,
the apostle Paul said,
00:55:57.65\00:56:01.06
"We who are alive and
remain shall be caught
00:56:01.36\00:56:03.93
up," so they said,
"Oh, we're gonna be alive,
00:56:04.03\00:56:05.39
because 'Those who
are alive and remain'!" So
00:56:05.49\00:56:09.16
Paul writes a second
epistle; he says, "No,
00:56:09.26\00:56:10.77
no, no, no, no. See,
you misunderstood me.
00:56:10.83\00:56:13.40
Jesus is not gonna
come until a long period of
00:56:14.27\00:56:16.74
apostasy in between."
Notice 2 Thessalonians
00:56:16.84\00:56:20.94
chapter 2 and verse 3.
"Let no one deceive you
00:56:21.04\00:56:24.51
by any means, for
that Day"-that is, the day
00:56:24.61\00:56:27.32
of Christ
coming-"will not come unless the
00:56:27.38\00:56:29.78
falling away comes
first." The word in Greek is,
00:56:29.82\00:56:34.09
"Unless the
'apostasía' comes first, and the
00:56:34.16\00:56:39.59
man of sin is revealed."
Who is the man of sin?
00:56:39.69\00:56:42.50
The little horn, the
beast, the harlot, the king of
00:56:44.13\00:56:47.14
the north, the abomination of
desolation, the anti-Christ...
00:56:47.24\00:56:50.27
Doesn't matter which
name you choose. [laughter]
00:56:50.87\00:56:53.54
And what is he gonna
do? Is he gonna attack
00:56:54.34\00:56:56.38
God? Yes! "Who opposes
and exalts himself above all
00:56:57.08\00:57:01.58
that is called
'God' or that is worshiped
00:57:02.28\00:57:04.95
so that he sits as
God," where? Did the little
00:57:05.05\00:57:11.49
horn attack the sanctuary?
Did he usurp the position
00:57:11.59\00:57:15.56
of Christ? Yes! So
it says, "The man of sin
00:57:15.66\00:57:18.83
sits as God in the
temple of God, showing himself
00:57:18.93\00:57:23.71
that he is God." So
were you able to follow what
00:57:24.34\00:57:29.84
we studied? We did
it quickly. But the good
00:57:29.94\00:57:34.42
thing is, it is
written, so you can go back
00:57:34.52\00:57:37.39
and you can look at
it; you can study it, you
00:57:38.25\00:57:40.76
can read all of
the verses that we've
00:57:40.86\00:57:42.66
included here. So, we
have discussed the first,
00:57:42.76\00:57:47.90
second, third,
fourth, and fifth trumpets...
00:57:48.00\00:57:50.83
...and we're still
not ready to go to the
00:57:52.33\00:57:54.20
sixth trumpet,
because we still have to study
00:57:54.27\00:57:56.67
Revelation 10. But
before that, Daniel 12:4.
00:57:57.61\00:58:00.88