I don't understand.
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Why did this
have to happen to me?
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I feel like I just
can't make sense of things.
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I need answers.
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Where is God?
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Hello and welcome to Raw
Questions Relevant Answers.
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Today we're talking
about media and entertainment.
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Media and entertainment.
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You know, if you're
watching this right now,
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then you have some
participation in media.
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It's everywhere, it's something
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that you can't really get
away from in this day and age,
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but what is
appropriate for the Christian?
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How do we handle the issues
of media and entertainment?
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I have special
guests with me today,
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our co-host, actually,
Dee Casper and Mark Paden.
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And we are going to be
looking at this together.
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So the first question
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that we have here today
is from a 21 year old male
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who is asking,
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"Does it matter what
we watch or listen to
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if it's just in moderation?"
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Yeah.
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So...
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I let you go first on that one.
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I'll give in. Yeah,
this is kind of my job.
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You're a filmmaker.
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Yes, I make films.
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And actually, the first thing
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I want to do
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is just define some of
the things in the medium.
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So the Open that
people just watch,
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this is a film that we
did specifically for this.
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It is a very distilled form of
communication, film is, right?
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In that, like I could
break down each shot of that,
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how it's put
together, what is in each shot,
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how it's framed,
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how we shot off the slow motion,
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everything about it
is there specifically
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to communicate very
strongly a certain thing,
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and that's all of film,
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you know, in the whole industry.
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It's a very distilled
form of art and communication.
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There's another
principle that we have that
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by beholding you
become changed, right?
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In anything in life, the
more we look at something,
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the more we
become like that, right?
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Now when those
two things collide,
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the effectiveness
of the film medium
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and the principle that by
beholding we become changed,
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we come up into a situation
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where when we're watching stuff
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that is
communicating principles,
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that are decidedly unchristian,
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we have very little
barrier to those principles
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becoming our own.
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So if you or I spend a
tremendous amount of time
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watching stuff that is
not Christian in nature,
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that is putting out
principles that are bad,
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and it may not even be
just drugs, sex, or violence,
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but do we really want
to watch a lot of stuff
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and become a lot of stuff
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that is a lot of
backbiting, gossip,
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and hatred, and
those types of things?
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That's what we open ourselves up
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to when we start partaking
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of these different
types of entertainments.
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There's another
principle, I think,
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that's important
here in the idea of like,
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how we may be view the
topic of temperance, you know.
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Like, it's that we...
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The idea of moderation,
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you know, like if it's okay
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if I take in things that I know
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that I shouldn't be around,
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but as long as I
don't do a lot of it,
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it's not a problem,
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which is somewhat
implied in the question.
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This is an area where we
can get ourselves in trouble
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because anytime we take a
willful step in a direction
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that we know isn't
in our best interest,
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no matter how far we
go, it's not the right step.
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Yeah. Does that make sense?
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Like, if we know if
God has convicted us
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that this is not
something that is in harmony
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with the will of God
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or with the principles
of how heaven operates,
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it's not a wise
choice for us to make,
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to move in that direction
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even if it's a
short step, right?
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For our personal
enjoyment and downtime.
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If someone's going to be a
missionary in a hostile area,
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that's a whole
another situation, right?
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But when someone's willfully
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subjecting
themselves to influences,
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it's best for us
to abstain from things
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that are not in
our best interest.
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The principle temperance
is actually to abstain
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from what's not in
your best interest,
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and to, in moderation,
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partake of the things
that are in your best interest.
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Say about some other
principle to maybe consider.
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Philippians 4:8 tells
us, "Finally, brethren,
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whatsoever things are true,
whatsoever things are noble,
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whatsoever things are just,
whatsoever things are pure,
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whatsoever things are lovely,
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whatsoever things
are of good report,
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if there is any virtue
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and if there is
anything praiseworthy,
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meditate on these things."
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And I ask myself sometimes,
with a lot of the media
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or entertainment
that I'm taking in,
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does it fit
those characteristics?
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And if it doesn't,
should I be meditating on it
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even if it's a little bit?
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And there's a
couple of things here.
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First of all,
there are some things
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that are okay in moderation,
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but if you have too much,
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it's not a good thing, right?
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Food, you need it actually,
though in the wrong amounts
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or the wrong
types, it's not good.
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Media can be like that.
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Some of it is good,
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but too much of
it can be a problem,
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and then some of it just
may not be helpful at all.
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And then why am I doing that?
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I know for me
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this is a struggle
because growing up,
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I wasted a lot of my
childhood watching TV and media.
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I would just come
home and I would say,
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"No, I'm just going
to watch one thing."
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And then four hours
later, there we were.
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And I realized for me, it
actually was an addiction,
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that whether I was
watching bad or good stuff,
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that was a problem,
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and I had to just stop in
order to get away from that.
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And so weighing that up,
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and then also the
content that we're looking at.
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It's a highly
emotional vehicle too,
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whether it be music or
digital media and movies,
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they're highly emotional.
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And sometimes one of the reasons
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why we're going
there in the first place
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is because we're just
looking to escape reality.
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We want to live
vicariously through the emotions
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that we're partaking of.
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And again, even if it's,
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you know, Christian music,
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but they just
really gets us jazz
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and excited or
moves our emotions
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to one direction or another,
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even if it's stuff that we feel
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that heaven would approve of,
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the problem is we're
running to something else
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to deal with the
current problem internally,
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emotionally, and psychologically
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as opposed to coming
to Jesus with our pain,
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and that's where even
something that's a good thing
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can be a problem
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because we're
using it to supplants
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or usurp the place in our
heart that only God should have,
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that He's the thing
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we should run to
when we're hurting,
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not something else
if that make sense.
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Do you have any other
point you want to go through?
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Yeah, I just
wanted to also comment...
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You know,
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I've seen a lot of my peers
growing up within the church
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and I've seen in
my own experience
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and how starting down a road
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of watching stuff
that isn't the worst,
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I mean, it just
has a little bit of...
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I mean it's not...
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You wouldn't say it
sinful, but, you know,
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you get what I'm saying, right?
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You start down that road,
and I know in my experience,
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once I started down
that road, it ended when...
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I started this far from
God, I ended this far from God.
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And that's something
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that we really have to
take into consideration
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is that these types of things...
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You're playing with
your eternal salvation.
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Right. It's not
a laughing matter.
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You give him an
inch, he takes a mile
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as far as Satan like.
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To willfully take
a step in a direction
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that heaven
would not have us take
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is opening a door
that's not easy to close
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because it's by degrees
many times that people end up
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in places they never
thought they would, right?
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And no one comes out of
their high school graduation
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thinking, "I'm
going to be a drug addict,
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living on the
side of the road in,
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you know, in a
metropolitan area."
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Like that's not
what they want to do,
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but this is what happens,
that you know one decision
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leads to another
decision leads to another.
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And it's far better
for us to take steps
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that would be in the direction
that heaven would approve of,
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than to try to survive
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and think that we
could handle a situation
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that's not in the direction
heaven could approve of.
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True. Good points. Good points.
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We'll get a little more
specific on this next one.
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Let's do this.
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We have someone that's asking,
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"Do I really have to
give up pop music etc.
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to get into heaven
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as long as it
doesn't have cussing
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or saying bad things?"
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So can you get into heaven
as long as you're not cussing
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and saying bad things?
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Good question, right? Yeah.
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I think this is...
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The fundamental thing in
this question that I see,
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we want to have
as much of something
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as we possibly can
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while still thinking
that we're okay, you know.
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And I'm not just putting this
on the asker of the question,
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I'm saying like, I've
seen this in my own experience.
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When I ask similar types
of questions, it's like...
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"You know, I really
want to do this and, I mean,
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as long as it doesn't have this
and it doesn't have this..."
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My biggest thing with
this whole type of question is,
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okay, maybe it doesn't have...
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Maybe it's not
dropping the F bomb,
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maybe it's not doing
some of these other things,
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but is it really
advancing good principles?
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Let's take a lot
of the love songs.
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Are the love
songs really advancing
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true genuine
deep Christ-like love?
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Yeah. Or is it
an emotional frenzy?
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Like Christianity is
not just made up of...
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Not of the world's
version of morality,
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there's this
world's version of morality
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that as long as it doesn't
have drugs, sex, or violence,
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then it's morally okay.
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From the Christian perspective,
it goes a lot deeper.
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Not only is it
those things, it's also,
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are we loving like Christ loves?
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Are we selfish?
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Or are we backbiting?
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Are we criticizing?
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There's a host
of other principles
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straight from the
character of Christ
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that God wants us to be like.
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And if we're
listening to a lot of things
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that are pushing out principles
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that are
totally not Christ-like,
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that's what
we're going to become.
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The world view of the artist
is what comes along the medium
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that they're using, right?
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And so like if...
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It's a very good
point that Mark is making
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that if their world view
is that women are objects,
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and even if we
don't use bad words,
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but we're implying
that women are objects.
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This is not a world view
that heaven would approve of
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because women aren't objects,
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they are
precious valuable beings
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made in the image of God
and should be treated as much.
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If it's teaching about...
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It's about hustling
and getting what you need
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to get forward at the expense
of anyone else around you,
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but they don't use bad words,
it's still not a principle
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that the King of the
heaven could approve of.
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And we could go
on and on and on...
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Yeah.
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There are emotions
tied to what's delivered,
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and they know this as far as
how these things are packaged,
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whether it be movies
or whether it be music.
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Even in novels and
stories and stuff like that.
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But two, with
that comes there...
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You may have an
emotional connection
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and what comes with
that emotional connection
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to what you're hearing
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is a world view that
you don't agree with,
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and those two come as a
one size fits all package,
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you get it all in one.
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You can't choose
one or the other.
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"I just connect
emotionally here,
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but I don't like that."
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You're willfully accepting both.
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Yes.
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And that's where we
need to choose wisely
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when it comes to the shopping.
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The scripture tells us
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that out of the
abundance of the heart,
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the mouth speaks.
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And the big thing I
found with music especially
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is that it speaks to the heart.
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Yes.
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It has a way to move us
that just words alone don't.
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And because of
that, music can be
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humongously powerful,
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but it can also
have a big effect
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we don't realize at less
than even cerebral level,
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those messages come in.
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And this kind of
relates to the next question
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which, in the light of all this,
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someone is asking,
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"So how do we know
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what is best for
a Christian to watch
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or listen to
without being legalistic?"
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It's a 22 year old male
saying, "What do I do now?"
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So here's one thing
that I just want to say,
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let's define legalism.
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Legalism is not obedience.
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Legalism is trying to
obey to earn God's favor.
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There's nothing
legalistic about saying,
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"God, what do you want me to do?
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How can I best live in
accordance with Your will?"
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That's
obedience. Christ did that.
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So the first
thing is to recognize
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as long as I'm not trying to do
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as many principals as I can just
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so I can be saved,
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if I'm coming out of
from the perspective of God,
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I want to be yours.
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I want to really have a
mind that is fit for heaven,
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that's not legalism.
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That Paul was saying
like there are things
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that are lawful for me,
but not all are beneficial.
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Yes, exactly.
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And I've heard it said
this way that if we choose...
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If in our decision, we
vow not to dishonor heaven,
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a plain path will
be set before our feet.
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And I think that's a
principle that we can abide by
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in this
particular context that...
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Who's the messenger?
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What is their world view?
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And where are they
wanting to drive me?
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And it's just like a...
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Like you're not going to
get in some stranger's car.
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You don't know how
good a driver they are,
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you don't know
where they're going,
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you don't know if
they're trustworthy,
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it's no different.
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You're getting in
their emotional vehicle,
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and they're going
to take you somewhere
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whether you want
to go there or not.
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That's what these
mediums are meant to do.
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They're vehicles to get
from one place to another.
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And so the
process of storytelling
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and the process of music
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are the two
vehicles of storytelling
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and music are
immensely powerful,
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and God uses both.
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Satan himself as a
musical being, for instance.
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We're told in Ezekiel 28,
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"Your timbrels
and your pipes..."
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He was someone who understands
the principles of worship
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and how powerful it
is to guide the soul.
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Yes, he can use them for evil,
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but it's not that
we just abandon music,
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we abandon story,
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it's who's driving the vehicle
of these powerful mediums.
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And that's the
question, I think,
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that's helpful
for me when asking,
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even if it's a Christian,
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are they driving
some other vehicle?
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Does that make sense?
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Like if they're
using a foreign vehicle
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to transport a
message, it still has an impact.
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I need to look
into those things.
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Right.
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So as we pull this together,
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what I hear you saying
is that that we are God's.
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Whatever we are
eating, drinking, or doing
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is for the glory of God.
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And so no, we're not
going to be able to give
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all the answers right now on
exactly what to do and not do,
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but hopefully these
principles help to give
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at least a direction.
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