I don't understand. 00:00:01.73\00:00:04.47 Why did this have to happen to me? 00:00:04.50\00:00:08.00 I feel like I just can't make sense of things. 00:00:08.04\00:00:12.57 I need answers. 00:00:12.61\00:00:15.91 Where is God? 00:00:15.94\00:00:19.85 You know, one of the most sublime 00:00:19.88\00:00:21.38 and beautiful truths of Christianity 00:00:21.42\00:00:23.85 is that God wants to be close 00:00:23.89\00:00:25.85 and intimately connected with us. 00:00:25.89\00:00:27.69 He wants to get us to know Him. 00:00:27.72\00:00:29.89 He wants to be close and experience 00:00:29.92\00:00:31.69 beautiful communion and fellowship with Him. 00:00:31.73\00:00:34.13 But oftentimes, that's where we seem to struggle the most is 00:00:34.16\00:00:36.97 in that connection with Him. 00:00:37.00\00:00:39.30 Welcome to Raw Questions Relevant Answers. 00:00:39.33\00:00:41.84 This is a program where we are seeking 00:00:41.87\00:00:44.21 Bible answers 00:00:44.24\00:00:45.57 for some of the most raw and personal questions 00:00:45.61\00:00:48.71 that go down to the depths of our hearts that we have, 00:00:48.74\00:00:51.01 especially these young people. 00:00:51.05\00:00:52.38 I'm joined by my co-host, 00:00:52.41\00:00:53.85 Michelle Doucoumes, and Dee Casper. 00:00:53.88\00:00:55.65 And we want to welcome you here today. 00:00:55.68\00:00:59.25 We basically get a bunch of questions 00:00:59.29\00:01:01.39 from young people around the world on Facebook. 00:01:01.42\00:01:03.53 And these are the questions 00:01:03.56\00:01:04.89 that we're going to be answering. 00:01:04.93\00:01:06.26 Today, we have some from California and Malaysia. 00:01:06.29\00:01:08.83 So that's kind of cool, all the way around the world. 00:01:08.86\00:01:12.00 To start off, we want to go to this first question. 00:01:12.03\00:01:16.00 And this is a really good one. 00:01:16.04\00:01:18.47 So this comes from a female, 26, from California. 00:01:18.51\00:01:22.31 "I have a business relationship with my dad, 00:01:22.34\00:01:24.55 and I transpose similar feelings to God. 00:01:24.58\00:01:27.52 How do I begin to form a loving relationship with God 00:01:27.55\00:01:30.65 that is more than a business interaction 00:01:30.69\00:01:32.75 when I am not open, raw, or vulnerable with my father?" 00:01:32.79\00:01:37.56 You know, our experience with God, 00:01:37.59\00:01:40.66 our view of God is based largely upon 00:01:40.70\00:01:43.16 our experience with our parents. 00:01:43.20\00:01:45.00 Like it or not, that's the truth. 00:01:45.03\00:01:46.97 God said, "It's not good for man to be alone." 00:01:47.00\00:01:49.50 And there are things experienced 00:01:49.54\00:01:51.11 in the covenant of marriage that you learn 00:01:51.14\00:01:52.67 about the character of God that you can't learn otherwise. 00:01:52.71\00:01:56.04 And those aspects of the image of God 00:01:56.08\00:01:59.51 are then kind of exhibited before the children 00:01:59.55\00:02:01.98 to kind of learn what He's like. 00:02:02.02\00:02:03.82 So if we have an absentee father 00:02:03.85\00:02:06.12 or difficult relationship with our father, 00:02:06.15\00:02:08.02 that would be a normal response to have. 00:02:08.06\00:02:09.99 I guess it's kind of my initial response is that 00:02:10.03\00:02:14.43 that's not uncommon for people 00:02:14.46\00:02:15.80 to have those types of feelings. 00:02:15.83\00:02:17.33 What do we do about it? 00:02:17.37\00:02:18.70 One of the best ways to understand the father 00:02:18.73\00:02:20.90 is what Jesus says in John, I believe, 16. 00:02:20.94\00:02:23.64 He says, "If you see Me, you've seen the Father." 00:02:23.67\00:02:27.34 One of the best ways to understand 00:02:27.38\00:02:29.08 what the Father is like, 00:02:29.11\00:02:30.45 how inviting He is, compassionate, and tender 00:02:30.48\00:02:33.28 is by seeing the expressed image of the Father 00:02:33.31\00:02:36.12 in His Son in Scripture. 00:02:36.15\00:02:38.22 That's a first place to start. 00:02:38.25\00:02:40.16 Yeah, it's funny, this question 00:02:40.19\00:02:42.92 because I've kind of been accused of this before. 00:02:42.96\00:02:45.83 I am a business person, I teach business. 00:02:45.86\00:02:48.46 My father is also into business, 00:02:48.50\00:02:50.00 so sometimes we come across as very business. 00:02:50.03\00:02:53.13 But it's not always like that, thankfully. 00:02:53.17\00:02:56.10 But I can relate to kind of leaning towards 00:02:56.14\00:02:59.11 the business side of things more naturally 00:02:59.14\00:03:01.74 which is not bad, 00:03:01.78\00:03:03.48 but it leaves out a huge part of who God is 00:03:03.51\00:03:06.21 if that's all there is. 00:03:06.25\00:03:08.12 But, you know, I think all of us 00:03:08.15\00:03:10.09 have certain misconceptions about God from our families, 00:03:10.12\00:03:14.86 whether we had really pretty good families, 00:03:14.89\00:03:17.26 pretty lousy families, 00:03:17.29\00:03:19.63 it's never going to be a complete picture. 00:03:19.66\00:03:22.63 And that is why, as Dee said, 00:03:22.66\00:03:25.33 it's so important to go into the Scripture 00:03:25.37\00:03:27.30 and find out more about who God is from there. 00:03:27.34\00:03:30.44 I love the gospel of John, also the epistles of John. 00:03:30.47\00:03:34.31 John is so good. 00:03:34.34\00:03:35.68 It just bringing out the love of God, 00:03:35.71\00:03:38.78 His relation to us as a Father, 00:03:38.81\00:03:41.72 what that really means. 00:03:41.75\00:03:43.49 There's verses like Zephaniah 3:17, 00:03:43.52\00:03:45.52 that talk about a God 00:03:45.55\00:03:46.89 who rejoices over us with singing. 00:03:46.92\00:03:49.92 And it's crazy because this can be 00:03:49.96\00:03:53.36 something that really rewires our view of what 00:03:53.40\00:03:57.27 the parent-child relationship or love relationship is like. 00:03:57.30\00:04:01.24 It's something that can prepare us to know 00:04:01.27\00:04:03.17 how to love other people 00:04:03.20\00:04:04.61 whereas we have deficiencies on our own. 00:04:04.64\00:04:07.61 And so I do think that 00:04:07.64\00:04:09.21 it's a process of letting the Word of God 00:04:09.24\00:04:10.98 kind of rewrite to that wiring in our minds as far as 00:04:11.01\00:04:13.88 what those relationships look like in their true form. 00:04:13.92\00:04:17.45 So then... Go ahead. 00:04:17.49\00:04:18.92 I was just going to say in Jeremiah 31, 00:04:18.95\00:04:20.76 there's this appeal from God. 00:04:20.79\00:04:22.89 And it says in verse 3. Jeremiah 31:3. 00:04:22.92\00:04:26.06 It says, "The Lord has appeared of old to me, saying, 00:04:26.09\00:04:27.93 'Yes, I have loved you..." This is the Father speaking. 00:04:27.96\00:04:30.67 "I have loved you with an everlasting love, 00:04:30.70\00:04:33.50 and therefore, with loving kindness, 00:04:33.54\00:04:35.17 I have drawn you." 00:04:35.20\00:04:37.11 Jesus then mentions in John 12, I believe, in verse 32 that, 00:04:37.14\00:04:40.28 "I, if I'd be lifted up, 00:04:40.31\00:04:41.64 will draw all people to Myself." 00:04:41.68\00:04:43.51 One of the best ways to be drawn to the Father 00:04:43.55\00:04:46.68 is to see the exhibition of His love, 00:04:46.72\00:04:48.82 you know, the perfect example of His love at Calvary, 00:04:48.85\00:04:51.45 and it draws us. 00:04:51.49\00:04:53.05 And so sometimes when we just hear about 00:04:53.09\00:04:55.52 judgment or stern expectations, it can maybe repel. 00:04:55.56\00:04:58.86 We don't understand how to work with that. 00:04:58.89\00:05:00.83 But my encouragement would be 00:05:00.86\00:05:02.26 to spend as much time as you can 00:05:02.30\00:05:04.33 embracing and experiencing the love of God in Scripture 00:05:04.37\00:05:08.30 in the Old Testament and the New Testament, 00:05:08.34\00:05:10.24 to set your compass to true north to realize that 00:05:10.27\00:05:12.67 the Father wants you to know 00:05:12.71\00:05:14.18 that you have access to intimacy with Him, 00:05:14.21\00:05:17.55 not just a business. 00:05:17.58\00:05:19.28 "Here's what I want, do it right or else, 00:05:19.31\00:05:21.62 I love you. 00:05:21.65\00:05:22.98 And with My love, I'm trying to draw you." 00:05:23.02\00:05:25.85 It has been a big benefit to me, 00:05:25.89\00:05:27.36 a big blessing to me to see that's how God views me 00:05:27.39\00:05:29.72 and wants to have a relationship with me. 00:05:29.76\00:05:31.86 Daniel 2, I think, it says the astrologers 00:05:31.89\00:05:35.53 and stuff say that, you know, "His dwelling is not with men." 00:05:35.56\00:05:38.70 They say in Daniel 2, 00:05:38.73\00:05:40.07 kind of the pagan view of God that He's distant. 00:05:40.10\00:05:42.10 He's nowhere near us. 00:05:42.14\00:05:43.54 The Judeo-Christian view is that 00:05:43.57\00:05:46.57 there's a God who tabernacle among us, 00:05:46.61\00:05:48.58 who became one of us, 00:05:48.61\00:05:50.11 and who is inviting us to have a relationship with Him. 00:05:50.15\00:05:53.11 I think it's a big, big difference. 00:05:53.15\00:05:54.65 You know, it's interesting. 00:05:54.68\00:05:56.02 I think, almost every episode, 00:05:56.05\00:05:58.82 we get down to the same kind of thing, what is the answer? 00:05:58.85\00:06:03.26 This, the Bible, the love of God in the Scripture, 00:06:03.29\00:06:06.33 and beholding the cross of Calvary every day, 00:06:06.36\00:06:09.63 beholding the love of God every day. 00:06:09.66\00:06:12.00 As it says, I believe, in John 15: 00:06:12.03\00:06:13.80 around verse 9 or 10, "Abide in My love." 00:06:13.84\00:06:17.94 You know, God wants us to stay connected to Him 00:06:17.97\00:06:22.44 through abiding in His love 00:06:22.48\00:06:23.81 through constantly looking at His love, 00:06:23.85\00:06:25.85 through knowing that He loves us. 00:06:25.88\00:06:27.48 In that walk, it purifies those bad images that we have of God, 00:06:27.52\00:06:32.55 and it ennobles us. 00:06:32.59\00:06:33.92 It makes us more loving. 00:06:33.96\00:06:36.09 It's that irrefutable law of the universe, 00:06:36.12\00:06:38.59 by beholding, you become changed, you know. 00:06:38.63\00:06:40.70 If we're looking at the love of God on the daily basis, 00:06:40.73\00:06:44.43 well, guess how we're going to treat the people around us? 00:06:44.47\00:06:46.33 We're going to loving. 00:06:46.37\00:06:47.70 We're going to emulate the character of Christ. 00:06:47.74\00:06:49.54 So I think to answer this question 00:06:49.57\00:06:51.11 then, we can basically say 00:06:51.14\00:06:53.04 keep looking at the true picture of God. 00:06:53.07\00:06:54.58 Yes. 00:06:54.61\00:06:56.11 So that's the first question. 00:06:56.14\00:06:57.61 Our second question comes to us 00:06:57.65\00:06:59.41 from a 22-year-old female in Malaysia. 00:06:59.45\00:07:02.65 And this one, I think, 00:07:02.68\00:07:04.02 is really practical in a lot of ways. 00:07:04.05\00:07:07.26 "If I don't see miracles in my life, 00:07:07.29\00:07:09.42 does that mean I didn't spend time with God? 00:07:09.46\00:07:12.09 Does that mean I don't have enough faith in God? 00:07:12.13\00:07:14.40 Does that mean I'm not asking enough, not praying enough, 00:07:14.43\00:07:16.87 not surrendered enough, or have the wrong motivation? 00:07:16.90\00:07:20.74 Thoughts? Wow. 00:07:20.77\00:07:22.47 You know, I think of something that Jesus said to the Jews 00:07:22.50\00:07:26.57 when they were looking for miracles, 00:07:26.61\00:07:28.64 and they wanted signs of Him. 00:07:28.68\00:07:30.18 In Luke 16:29, it said, 00:07:30.21\00:07:34.62 "They have Moses and the prophets, 00:07:34.65\00:07:35.98 let them hear them." 00:07:36.02\00:07:37.75 And then in verse 31, he said, 00:07:37.79\00:07:39.85 "If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, 00:07:39.89\00:07:41.66 neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead." 00:07:41.69\00:07:45.39 Like even if they saw the biggest miracle, 00:07:45.43\00:07:48.23 if we don't believe God's Word, it's not going to be enough. 00:07:48.26\00:07:53.40 Now does that mean that God doesn't do miracles? 00:07:53.44\00:07:56.20 God does miracles. 00:07:56.24\00:07:58.44 But when miracles become the test of our faith, 00:07:58.47\00:08:00.88 or "I'm not going to believe unless I see a miracle," 00:08:00.91\00:08:04.65 then sometimes there can be a problem. 00:08:04.68\00:08:07.15 And honestly, I believe God is doing miracles every day. 00:08:07.18\00:08:10.15 We just don't see them. 00:08:10.19\00:08:11.62 The Jews saw many, many miracles. 00:08:11.65\00:08:13.56 They had God in human flesh with them, 00:08:13.59\00:08:17.09 the biggest miracle ever, and they were blind to it. 00:08:17.13\00:08:21.06 And so something that's also helped me as not feeling like, 00:08:21.10\00:08:23.40 "Wow! Well, I didn't see this huge miracle, 00:08:23.43\00:08:26.20 so maybe God's not with me." 00:08:26.23\00:08:28.67 But realizing the presence of God in daily life 00:08:28.70\00:08:31.44 that God is always at work 00:08:31.47\00:08:33.34 and if I'm not cognizant of those things, 00:08:33.38\00:08:36.48 I might not even be persuaded if a large miracle happened. 00:08:36.51\00:08:40.18 I was just thinking like in the Upper Room, 00:08:40.22\00:08:41.85 Jesus confirmed to Thomas. 00:08:41.88\00:08:44.09 Jesus didn't have to do this, 00:08:44.12\00:08:46.25 but He did it anyway just to help Thomas 00:08:46.29\00:08:48.62 with what he was struggling with, you see. 00:08:48.66\00:08:49.99 So I'm not going to believe 00:08:50.03\00:08:51.36 as I put my fingers in the side, 00:08:51.39\00:08:52.76 my fingers in His palms, even though the testimony 00:08:52.79\00:08:55.40 of everyone around Him who knew Jesus 00:08:55.43\00:08:57.73 and that he confirmed what Jesus said He would do. 00:08:57.77\00:09:00.87 Even in those moments, 00:09:00.90\00:09:02.24 when our faith struggles or wrestles, 00:09:02.27\00:09:03.91 there are times when God is willing to acquiesce 00:09:03.94\00:09:07.08 just to come and meet us 00:09:07.11\00:09:08.44 where we are and to encourage us. 00:09:08.48\00:09:10.25 But I think the amazing thing is even when we do doubt, 00:09:10.28\00:09:13.01 God still wants to use this... 00:09:13.05\00:09:14.38 There's this amazing verse just before 00:09:14.42\00:09:15.88 the Great Commission in Matthew 28. 00:09:15.92\00:09:17.99 In Matthew 28:16, we go right into 18 generally 00:09:18.02\00:09:21.92 and talk about how Jesus gave the Great Commission 00:09:21.96\00:09:23.83 to tell the gospel to the world. 00:09:23.86\00:09:25.39 But listen to this, the verse 16, 00:09:25.43\00:09:27.53 "The 11 disciples went away into Galilee to the mountains 00:09:27.56\00:09:30.83 which Jesus had appointed for them. 00:09:30.87\00:09:32.60 And when they saw Him, they worshiped Him, 00:09:32.63\00:09:35.27 but some doubted." 00:09:35.30\00:09:37.91 Like some actually doubted that He was actually there 00:09:37.94\00:09:40.68 that these things were really happening. 00:09:40.71\00:09:42.11 And the very next thing that happens in Scripture is, 00:09:42.14\00:09:44.68 "Even you, I want you to go 00:09:44.71\00:09:46.45 and told the story of the gospel to the world," 00:09:46.48\00:09:48.75 because He knew that through this process, 00:09:48.78\00:09:50.65 there may be doubts, there may be discouragement, 00:09:50.69\00:09:52.89 but His plan isn't over, He still has work for them. 00:09:52.92\00:09:55.52 And many times, in the going, 00:09:55.56\00:09:57.59 Jesus told the disciples at another place that, 00:09:57.63\00:09:59.29 "You're seeing stuff that prophets longed to see," 00:09:59.33\00:10:01.86 you're walking with Jesus. 00:10:01.90\00:10:03.77 And if you're actually walking with Jesus in your experience, 00:10:03.80\00:10:06.13 you will see things, you will receive blessings, 00:10:06.17\00:10:08.97 and you will have that confirmation. 00:10:09.00\00:10:11.51 You know, another point, this is from Isaiah 50... 00:10:11.54\00:10:14.98 By the way, do yourselves a favor, 00:10:15.01\00:10:18.01 read the Isaiah 40s and 50s. 00:10:18.05\00:10:20.25 Yes. These are powerful. 00:10:20.28\00:10:22.12 So like we talk a lot about the gospels 00:10:22.15\00:10:24.99 and how powerful those are, 00:10:25.02\00:10:26.55 Isaiah 40s especially are just as powerful. 00:10:26.59\00:10:30.86 I mean, they are the words of God Himself to humanity 00:10:30.89\00:10:34.83 expressing His love and foretelling Christ, right? 00:10:34.86\00:10:39.07 But this is Isaiah 50:10, 00:10:39.10\00:10:42.17 "Who is among you that fears the Lord, 00:10:42.20\00:10:44.64 that obeys the voice of His Servant, 00:10:44.67\00:10:46.68 and that walks in darkness, and has no light? 00:10:46.71\00:10:49.78 Let him trust in the name of the Lord 00:10:49.81\00:10:52.01 and stay or rely upon his God." 00:10:52.05\00:10:54.92 In other words, if you fear the Lord, 00:10:54.95\00:10:58.29 if you obey His voice, 00:10:58.32\00:11:00.76 and there's seeming to be darkness all around, 00:11:00.79\00:11:04.19 keep trusting, keep depending on Him, 00:11:04.23\00:11:07.13 keep relying on God to do what He has said He will do. 00:11:07.16\00:11:11.60 And you know, just one other quick point 00:11:11.63\00:11:13.34 that I want to bring in here too. 00:11:13.37\00:11:16.00 I grew up, you know, going to church, 00:11:16.04\00:11:18.94 doing what I needed to, 00:11:18.97\00:11:20.31 and paying tithe, and all those things, 00:11:20.34\00:11:22.11 but I never started seeing miracles, financial miracles, 00:11:22.14\00:11:27.48 until I started like giving not just from my abundance 00:11:27.52\00:11:33.05 but giving till it hurt. 00:11:33.09\00:11:34.42 Right? Needed them. 00:11:34.46\00:11:35.79 Exactly, exactly. 00:11:35.82\00:11:37.16 When it meant something to give, 00:11:37.19\00:11:38.53 that's when I saw the fulfillment of the promise, 00:11:38.56\00:11:40.53 give, and it shall be given back to you. 00:11:40.56\00:11:42.36 So one practical thing, if you want to see 00:11:42.40\00:11:44.77 more miracles in your life, give more. 00:11:44.80\00:11:47.54 Like step out in faith more. I've seen that too. 00:11:47.57\00:11:50.71 Miracles are not just as a little novelty, 00:11:50.74\00:11:53.94 miracles are given an urgent need. 00:11:53.98\00:11:55.94 Right. Yes. 00:11:55.98\00:11:57.31 And so we're out working for God, 00:11:57.35\00:11:58.81 and there's an urgent need, I've seen a lot of miracles. 00:11:58.85\00:12:01.72 Yes, if you give and live radically, 00:12:01.75\00:12:03.65 that's a lot of times when the miracles happen 00:12:03.69\00:12:05.22 because you're being used on behalf of God 00:12:05.25\00:12:07.62 to further a purpose as opposed to just maintaining. 00:12:07.66\00:12:10.26 Right. 00:12:10.29\00:12:11.63 God isn't necessarily going to perform a miracle 00:12:11.66\00:12:13.63 just so that you can get a slightly better benchmark 00:12:13.66\00:12:16.06 at your work, right? 00:12:16.10\00:12:17.43 But He is going to perform a miracle 00:12:17.47\00:12:19.33 so that that person down the street can see the gospel. 00:12:19.37\00:12:23.84 Okay, so one last question here before time runs out. 00:12:23.87\00:12:26.88 We don't have a lot of time for this one, 00:12:26.91\00:12:28.24 but this is again from somebody out in California, female, 00:12:28.28\00:12:33.08 "How do I stay strong when those around me 00:12:33.11\00:12:35.72 are compromising values that we all used to agree on? 00:12:35.75\00:12:39.25 How do I stay strong 00:12:39.29\00:12:40.62 when my loved ones are doubting God 00:12:40.66\00:12:42.12 and spirituality?" 00:12:42.16\00:12:44.39 My first encouragement would be 00:12:44.43\00:12:46.09 that it's difficult when we make these decisions 00:12:46.13\00:12:49.63 because when people change where they were, 00:12:49.66\00:12:52.07 maybe that you used to do things 00:12:52.10\00:12:53.64 that you choose not to do anymore, 00:12:53.67\00:12:55.67 immediately, everyone you hung out with is convicted by that, 00:12:55.70\00:12:58.64 and they feel condemned even though you may love them 00:12:58.67\00:13:00.51 and treat them no differently. 00:13:00.54\00:13:01.91 And that's par for the course, that's normal. 00:13:01.94\00:13:04.48 But that question is more of... 00:13:04.51\00:13:06.31 Can you repeat the question on that? 00:13:06.35\00:13:07.68 Yeah. 00:13:07.72\00:13:09.05 "How do I stay strong 00:13:09.08\00:13:10.69 when those around me are compromising?" 00:13:10.72\00:13:12.05 And I would add something to that, I do think 00:13:12.09\00:13:13.79 there is an importance to Christian community 00:13:13.82\00:13:16.12 as much as you can utilize Christian mentors, 00:13:16.16\00:13:20.40 Christian friends, we do need that in times 00:13:20.43\00:13:23.23 when we are surrounded by other influences. 00:13:23.26\00:13:25.97 We are meant to be a community and support each other. 00:13:26.00\00:13:28.50 And too, Jesus is acquainted with situations like this, 00:13:28.54\00:13:31.34 where there were people, His own family members, 00:13:31.37\00:13:33.04 His own brothers didn't believe in Him, 00:13:33.07\00:13:35.01 and we can receive Christ's spirit of strength 00:13:35.04\00:13:37.11 in the midst of those difficulties. 00:13:37.15\00:13:38.48 We can cry out to Him and say, 00:13:38.51\00:13:39.85 "Jesus, I need Your strength to be faithful right now 00:13:39.88\00:13:42.28 because I don't have it." 00:13:42.32\00:13:43.65 And I guarantee you He wants to provide that. 00:13:43.69\00:13:45.39 For sure, and one other very practical thing, 00:13:45.42\00:13:47.92 be careful in who you maintain close friendships with. 00:13:47.96\00:13:51.43 Like it or not, you will be influenced by them. 00:13:51.46\00:13:53.56 I mean, you are a combination of your three closest friends. 00:13:53.60\00:13:57.70 If you want... 00:13:57.73\00:13:59.13 And this is no joke, you want to be careful 00:13:59.17\00:14:01.74 who you form close friendships with. 00:14:01.77\00:14:03.30 Unfortunately, our time is up, 00:14:03.34\00:14:04.67 but if you have any more questions, 00:14:04.71\00:14:06.04 find us on Facebook, 00:14:06.07\00:14:07.41 Raw Questions Relevant Answers 3ABN. 00:14:07.44\00:14:09.38 God bless. 00:14:09.41\00:14:10.75 Thank you so much for joining us today. 00:14:10.78\00:14:12.11 Take care. 00:14:12.15\00:14:13.48