Hello and welcome to "Road to Romance" 00:00:23.52\00:00:26.19 I'm your host Dr. John Jacob. 00:00:26.22\00:00:28.66 Today, we have with us Bianca, Sean and Miles. 00:00:28.69\00:00:32.09 Welcome! Hi! Hello! 00:00:32.13\00:00:33.66 So today, we are going to cover 00:00:33.70\00:00:35.56 control and controlling behavior. 00:00:35.60\00:00:38.23 I'm going to try to see if I could help you guys 00:00:38.27\00:00:40.54 to identify when you are getting ready to get 00:00:40.57\00:00:43.74 into a relationship with someone who might be a 00:00:43.77\00:00:46.04 controller. All right. Okay! 00:00:46.07\00:00:48.14 So people control out of fear mostly. 00:00:48.61\00:00:51.41 They want to be in control of the environment. 00:00:51.45\00:00:53.92 They want to be control of the outcome and they're afraid 00:00:53.95\00:00:57.29 that if they leave everything up to you, 00:00:57.32\00:00:59.79 you're probably going to mess things up. 00:00:59.82\00:01:02.32 So a wife who is a controller in that case 00:01:02.36\00:01:05.29 would perhaps want to choose your jacket. 00:01:05.33\00:01:09.13 You look pretty sharp today, but if you had a 00:01:09.16\00:01:12.23 controlling partner, she might not think that 00:01:12.27\00:01:14.30 that jacket matched that shirt. 00:01:14.34\00:01:16.24 Oh, that's... okay, that's like an example of someone who... 00:01:16.27\00:01:20.68 It's an example of someone who, yes... 00:01:20.71\00:01:22.04 and so she would ask you to change your jacket. Okay 00:01:22.08\00:01:24.98 What is she's just watching out for you? 00:01:25.01\00:01:27.05 What if she's just watching out for you? 00:01:27.08\00:01:29.92 How do you tell the difference between someone who is 00:01:29.95\00:01:31.89 just looking out for your best interest, 00:01:31.92\00:01:34.26 and someone who is a controller? 00:01:34.29\00:01:35.82 We have a few ways. 00:01:35.86\00:01:37.23 So let me just define what controlling is first, 00:01:37.26\00:01:39.86 and then we'll take a look at that. 00:01:39.89\00:01:41.23 So control is the power to directly influence 00:01:41.26\00:01:44.03 another person's actions, behavior or choices, 00:01:44.07\00:01:47.87 but a lot of us do that without controlling. 00:01:47.90\00:01:51.41 But here's the difference... 00:01:51.44\00:01:52.94 If exercising this power is unwelcomed or unwanted, 00:01:52.97\00:01:58.15 sometimes unrequested, then there's a chance that 00:01:58.18\00:02:02.48 you are a controller. 00:02:02.52\00:02:04.49 So even in an example where someone wants to be 00:02:04.52\00:02:08.52 controlled, that person controlling them is not 00:02:08.56\00:02:12.29 a typical controlling situation? 00:02:12.33\00:02:14.46 It's interesting that you ask that because 00:02:14.50\00:02:16.53 that was my next question, that's my next question. 00:02:16.56\00:02:19.13 I have three questions for you guys and this question 00:02:19.17\00:02:21.90 that you just asked is very, very close to it. 00:02:21.94\00:02:24.51 Here it is... Are you a controller if the 00:02:24.54\00:02:27.64 person being controlled wants to be controlled 00:02:27.68\00:02:31.11 or likes to be controlled? 00:02:31.15\00:02:32.81 I think so because it's called "mind control." 00:02:32.85\00:02:34.95 But are you controlling - the person wants it? I think so. 00:02:34.98\00:02:37.52 So based on our previous definition... Manipulation. 00:02:38.49\00:02:41.02 So what is our previous definition of control, remember? 00:02:41.06\00:02:43.69 That they don't want it. Yeah. If it's unwanted. 00:02:43.73\00:02:45.16 It is not controlling them. Yeah 00:02:46.13\00:02:47.46 If it's unwanted, but if the person wants it... 00:02:47.50\00:02:49.83 And let me qualify some terms... 00:02:49.86\00:02:52.17 Sometimes we mistake control for the need for structure 00:02:52.20\00:02:57.31 or the need for leadership. 00:02:57.34\00:02:59.47 So very often guys get with a lady and find out that 00:02:59.51\00:03:05.31 she wants them to make the decisions. 00:03:05.35\00:03:08.45 You know, she does not want you to ask her repeatedly, 00:03:08.48\00:03:11.32 "Well which restaurant are we going to go to tonight, honey?" 00:03:11.35\00:03:13.56 "Which restaurant," you know, over and over and over. 00:03:13.59\00:03:15.46 She wants you and she will say, "Can you make 00:03:15.49\00:03:17.06 that decision, Sean, you know I trust you, 00:03:17.09\00:03:19.79 whatever decision you make, wherever you decide 00:03:19.83\00:03:22.33 you would like to eat tonight, that's fine with me." 00:03:22.36\00:03:24.80 Isn't that like being a leader though? 00:03:24.83\00:03:26.67 Right - so you're taking the leadership role 00:03:26.70\00:03:28.40 because she is giving it to you. 00:03:28.44\00:03:29.94 And then you're not controlling Yeah, I agree. 00:03:29.97\00:03:33.24 because that's what she wants. Right? 00:03:33.27\00:03:35.28 But here's another scenario... 00:03:35.31\00:03:37.41 If you are refusing to let your partner tell you what to eat 00:03:37.45\00:03:42.28 or how to dress, or what to read or who to talk to, 00:03:42.32\00:03:47.69 does that make you a controller? 00:03:47.72\00:03:50.73 I think it would - even if the person ended up coming 00:03:50.76\00:03:53.53 to accept that... like if that's what you're making the 00:03:53.56\00:03:58.67 person do - like you're controlling all these aspects, 00:03:58.70\00:04:01.57 maybe they'd end up becoming rather submissive to it, 00:04:01.60\00:04:04.51 they accept it like, "Oh it's just part of life. 00:04:04.54\00:04:06.98 this is just what he does, I'm okay with it." 00:04:07.01\00:04:10.45 But then you're trying to make them in exactly 00:04:10.48\00:04:15.18 what you want them to be, and that's a problem. 00:04:15.22\00:04:17.75 Let me personalize that question for you... 00:04:17.79\00:04:20.36 If as we are sitting here right now, 00:04:20.39\00:04:22.86 you thought that Sean was sitting too close to you 00:04:22.89\00:04:26.29 and you said, "Sean, (she did not say,) 00:04:26.33\00:04:33.00 and you said, "Sean, can you scoot over, like a foot. 00:04:33.03\00:04:38.37 I need some more personal space." 00:04:38.41\00:04:42.61 "And also, while you're doing that, 00:04:42.64\00:04:44.45 could you stop talking to me." 00:04:44.48\00:04:45.85 Please. No, we're not talking about 00:04:47.02\00:04:48.45 whether she's too blunt now, we're just talking about 00:04:48.48\00:04:50.02 controlling people. 00:04:50.05\00:04:51.39 I know, he has some history there, right? Right? 00:04:51.42\00:04:54.36 Too much. 00:04:54.39\00:04:55.72 Would that make you a controller - if you were 00:04:55.76\00:04:57.79 trying to secure your own boundaries? 00:04:57.83\00:05:00.53 I don't think so in that case. 00:05:00.56\00:05:02.56 It would be, I guess, controlling my own space 00:05:02.60\00:05:06.70 not trying to control who he is as a person. Right 00:05:06.74\00:05:09.57 Like I'm controlling my own space, huh, like that? Exactly. 00:05:09.60\00:05:12.21 You're allowed to control your own space. 00:05:12.24\00:05:15.01 You're allowed to control your own life. 00:05:15.04\00:05:17.48 You're allowed to decide what you will eat, 00:05:17.51\00:05:21.02 what you will wear, which job you will hold, 00:05:21.05\00:05:26.02 who is allowed to talk to you, and, as a young lady, 00:05:26.05\00:05:30.39 I know you know how important that is. Yeah 00:05:30.43\00:05:32.46 You don't want any and everybody coming up to you, 00:05:32.49\00:05:35.60 stepping up to you thinking that they could 00:05:35.63\00:05:37.07 carry on a major conversation, you know, trying to be slick 00:05:37.10\00:05:39.87 perhaps, you know, get a conversation in. 00:05:39.90\00:05:42.40 Trying to be slick, but they're not that slick. 00:05:42.44\00:05:44.21 They're not that slick, right? 00:05:44.24\00:05:45.71 So it's important to realize that when it comes to 00:05:45.74\00:05:48.04 boundaries, you guys have the right to establish your 00:05:48.08\00:05:52.11 boundaries without feeling that you are being controlling. Amen! 00:05:52.15\00:05:56.65 Okay, that's very, very important because a lot of 00:05:56.69\00:05:58.85 people will try to violate those boundaries and tell you 00:05:58.89\00:06:01.52 what you need to do with you. Okay 00:06:01.56\00:06:03.93 Now on the other hand, if someone is refusing 00:06:05.39\00:06:09.26 to let you decide what you want to eat, how you want to dress, 00:06:09.30\00:06:13.84 what you should read, how you should talk, 00:06:13.87\00:06:17.44 what you should say, is that person a controller? 00:06:17.47\00:06:20.31 Yeah. Yes. 00:06:20.34\00:06:23.48 I notice that Sean had to think about it. 00:06:23.51\00:06:25.58 Yeah, I am trying to give it some thought. 00:06:25.61\00:06:27.78 Okay, we have two "yeses," so... 00:06:27.82\00:06:30.75 I'm going to lean towards "yes." 00:06:30.79\00:06:32.15 You're going to lean towards "yes," 00:06:32.19\00:06:33.52 but you're not quite sure. 00:06:33.56\00:06:36.12 You think there's a possibility that someone can dictate 00:06:36.16\00:06:38.96 your every move without being controlling? 00:06:38.99\00:06:41.66 And I'm not talking about a parent or a child, 00:06:41.70\00:06:45.60 but I'm talking about equal partners. 00:06:45.63\00:06:47.20 Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah 00:06:47.24\00:06:48.70 So it's very, very important for you to keep that in mind. Okay 00:06:48.74\00:06:51.74 No one is allowed to do that to you. 00:06:51.77\00:06:53.81 When you're going out on dates, what the research is showing is 00:06:53.84\00:06:57.58 that controllers show their hand 00:06:57.61\00:06:59.45 long before they get to the altar. Hmm 00:06:59.48\00:07:02.45 This is as far as like dictating where they are 00:07:02.48\00:07:04.95 going to eat, what type of activity. Yeah 00:07:04.99\00:07:07.02 So what could be the difference between a man initiating 00:07:07.06\00:07:10.63 or making suggestions to mean okay your women would say, 00:07:10.66\00:07:14.86 you know, "You let us know where we want to eat, 00:07:14.90\00:07:17.20 you make that decision," how can you 00:07:17.23\00:07:19.37 make that different in someone who is just 00:07:19.40\00:07:22.50 controlling the whole situation throughout the whole thing. 00:07:22.54\00:07:24.44 I'll give you an example... Okay 00:07:24.47\00:07:25.81 Sometimes you could test things to find out 00:07:25.84\00:07:27.28 if you're dealing with a controlling situation. 00:07:27.31\00:07:29.48 If you went to dinner and you decided to pick the restaurant, 00:07:29.51\00:07:33.62 and she said, "Oh I would love to have you pick 00:07:33.65\00:07:35.22 the restaurant," so you pick the restaurant. Right 00:07:35.25\00:07:37.85 And you get there and then you decided to order for her. 00:07:37.89\00:07:43.09 "This is what you're going to eat." 00:07:43.12\00:07:44.46 There are some guys that would do that. Right 00:07:44.49\00:07:46.56 Now, you didn't ask or you didn't say, 00:07:46.59\00:07:49.13 "Can I order you the..." 00:07:49.16\00:07:50.83 Right, you're not giving her the option. 00:07:50.87\00:07:52.43 You're not giving her the option, you just 00:07:52.47\00:07:53.97 ... you never even looked in her direction. 00:07:54.00\00:07:55.50 You got the menu... Oh it happens... 00:07:55.54\00:07:57.71 It happens a lot. Yeah, it does. Yeah 00:07:57.74\00:07:59.74 And some women are okay with it because it's, you know, 00:07:59.77\00:08:03.04 in terms of class... Soundbites? 00:08:03.08\00:08:05.41 yeah, well in terms of class in certain circles, 00:08:05.45\00:08:08.45 it's allowed and sometimes they don't even 00:08:08.48\00:08:10.42 think it's submission, it's a class thing sometimes. 00:08:10.45\00:08:12.95 But here's the rub, what if she says, 00:08:12.99\00:08:15.16 "Oh I don't think I want that," and you said, 00:08:15.19\00:08:17.46 "No, you will eat this." 00:08:17.49\00:08:19.03 Okay, that's controlling. 00:08:19.06\00:08:20.76 You see where you cross the line? Um hm 00:08:20.80\00:08:22.66 So that could be the difference between 00:08:22.70\00:08:25.00 being a leader and a dictator. 00:08:25.03\00:08:27.27 Ahhh - perfect, I love that! 00:08:27.34\00:08:29.54 I love that and you guys don't want to be dictators 00:08:29.57\00:08:31.34 and you do not want to be dictated to. Right! 00:08:31.37\00:08:33.74 As a Y-type female, I am not even worried about Bianca. 00:08:34.11\00:08:38.41 The rebel. Not either. Laughter 00:08:38.45\00:08:41.25 Y- types are exceptional at stating where their boundary is, 00:08:41.28\00:08:46.42 and they can tell you where that boundary is from a mile off. 00:08:46.45\00:08:48.69 They don't wait until you step on the toe to say, 00:08:48.72\00:08:51.09 "Step off," no, they're telling you that while you're 00:08:51.13\00:08:53.46 coming toward them 10 feet away. Right 00:08:53.50\00:08:55.16 I'll say it nicely, but I'll say it. 00:08:55.20\00:08:56.87 And I'm glad that she'll say it nicely 00:08:56.90\00:08:58.50 because they don't, you know, always say it nicely. 00:08:58.53\00:09:01.80 So basically, so you guys think you have an idea of 00:09:01.84\00:09:04.14 what the difference is? Yes. Um hm. 00:09:04.17\00:09:05.61 Okay, so in a relationship, if you feel that you must 00:09:05.64\00:09:08.91 always have your way, you're a controller. Okay 00:09:08.94\00:09:12.38 If you're with someone who feels that she must always 00:09:12.41\00:09:14.88 have her way, she's a controller. 00:09:14.92\00:09:17.99 That takes a little while to figure out. 00:09:18.02\00:09:21.02 You're not going to find that out on a first date 00:09:21.06\00:09:23.02 because, you know, the first date you want to please her, 00:09:23.06\00:09:24.59 the second date you want to please her. 00:09:24.63\00:09:25.96 If you get to the 10th date and you still haven't 00:09:25.99\00:09:27.36 seen your restaurant, I'm guessing... 00:09:27.40\00:09:30.97 What happened in the first couple of dates, 00:09:31.00\00:09:32.33 but I think you have not too long after that 00:09:32.37\00:09:34.37 you can kind of tell... Okay, if I making suggestions 00:09:34.40\00:09:38.81 and she's not reciprocating or going along with that, 00:09:38.84\00:09:42.91 then that's when it's time when... Okay, something is up. 00:09:42.94\00:09:45.61 Yeah and some controllers have a tone, a voice, that they use 00:09:45.65\00:09:50.12 that you know, Sort of dismissive... 00:09:50.15\00:09:52.05 Dismissive, condescending, "I'm in charge, I'll tell you what 00:09:52.09\00:09:54.79 to do and some are very subtle, very sweet... "Oh Sean, can you 00:09:54.82\00:09:59.46 do this for me please," but you better not say no. 00:09:59.49\00:10:02.96 You know, you better not say no. 00:10:03.03\00:10:05.90 Okay, here are a couple of things that you're not 00:10:05.93\00:10:09.30 allowed control over... 00:10:09.34\00:10:11.84 If you're in a relationship, you do not get to decide, 00:10:11.87\00:10:14.88 by yourself, the pace of that relationship. 00:10:14.91\00:10:20.22 True, that's true. I like that. 00:10:20.25\00:10:21.58 Is that fair? Yes. Um hm. 00:10:21.62\00:10:23.25 And you shouldn't let someone else decide that either. 00:10:23.28\00:10:25.85 Bianca, you don't want a guy coming up and saying, 00:10:25.89\00:10:27.56 "You know, we've been dating for 6 months, 00:10:27.59\00:10:28.92 I just decided you're going to be my girlfriend from today." 00:10:28.96\00:10:31.36 "You're my girlfriend." Use you? 00:10:31.39\00:10:33.13 Exactly, but people do this. 00:10:33.16\00:10:35.50 People actually do this. 00:10:35.53\00:10:36.93 They say, "Hey, we're boyfriend and girlfriend." 00:10:36.97\00:10:39.00 But that generally would have a negative effect on that 00:10:39.03\00:10:41.30 person who is being, you know, controlled I guess 00:10:41.34\00:10:44.97 because they're going to push back. 00:10:45.01\00:10:46.61 They're going to like... they might say, "Okay 00:10:46.64\00:10:48.44 I'll be your girlfriend" or whatever the case is, 00:10:48.48\00:10:50.15 but in their mind, a red flag is going to pop up, 00:10:50.18\00:10:53.45 and that's not really going to progress the relationship. 00:10:53.48\00:10:55.72 Absolutely. Oh sorry, um. 00:10:55.75\00:10:57.45 What were you going to say? I was just going to say... 00:10:57.49\00:10:58.82 For some people, it might be... you know what, 00:10:58.85\00:11:00.92 "God is telling me this," that's a big thing. 00:11:00.96\00:11:05.46 You know and all of a sudden it's like... hmm 00:11:05.49\00:11:08.70 They may be using religion, 00:11:08.73\00:11:10.47 but if someone says something to me and they use religion, 00:11:10.50\00:11:13.17 I would prefer to err on the side of caution. Okay 00:11:13.20\00:11:16.30 If you tell me, "Hey, I really don't kiss before marriage," 00:11:16.34\00:11:21.54 even if I think that's outdated, even if I thought, you know, 00:11:21.58\00:11:25.08 "Hey wow, that's antiquated," I have to respect that because 00:11:25.11\00:11:28.32 you are telling me that this is your moral boundary, 00:11:28.35\00:11:31.25 and you guys have to expect the flip side of that too. 00:11:31.62\00:11:35.12 If you tell someone, "I'm not comfortable with this, 00:11:35.16\00:11:37.96 I'm not going to do that," they need to respect that. Yeah 00:11:37.99\00:11:42.16 And you don't have to give him a thousand reasons... 00:11:42.20\00:11:43.53 You can just say, "Well this is my moral boundary." Yeah. Right. 00:11:43.57\00:11:45.80 I guess what I was speaking to was like, you know, 00:11:45.83\00:11:47.80 "I just feel like God is telling me we should be in 00:11:48.90\00:11:50.77 a relationship," that kind of idea. 00:11:50.81\00:11:52.81 Right, oh, I am so glad that you mentioned that. 00:11:52.84\00:11:54.74 You've heard that, right? I've heard that so much. 00:11:54.78\00:11:56.21 "God gave me a sign and He told me." 00:11:56.24\00:11:58.41 He didn't give me the sign. 00:11:58.45\00:11:59.78 The first person to walk through this door tonight 00:11:59.81\00:12:02.68 is the one and low and behold, 00:12:02.72\00:12:05.59 you walked in, you're the one Sean! 00:12:05.62\00:12:07.89 I'm sorry... the pace of a relationship needs to be 00:12:07.92\00:12:11.83 decided by two. 00:12:11.86\00:12:13.19 You need to say to the lady, "Listen, you said that 00:12:13.23\00:12:16.26 God said?" He needs to talk to me. Right 00:12:16.30\00:12:19.33 He needs to confirm this with me because I didn't 00:12:19.37\00:12:22.20 see and I didn't hear, so don't fall for that 00:12:22.24\00:12:25.31 trap or trick because a lot of people use it... 00:12:25.34\00:12:28.04 that needs to go both ways. Okay? 00:12:28.08\00:12:30.91 All right, you also do not get to decide whether the 00:12:30.95\00:12:35.68 relationship continues or not. 00:12:35.72\00:12:39.49 I cannot tell you how many people I've heard from 00:12:39.52\00:12:43.06 who have said, "Oh, I tried to break up with my boyfriend, 00:12:43.09\00:12:47.23 but he told me that he wasn't letting me break up with him." 00:12:47.26\00:12:49.56 That's crazy! Oh, it happens! 00:12:49.60\00:12:51.73 I've heard that a lot. It' happens! 00:12:51.77\00:12:53.10 And if she says, "Oh I'm breaking up anyway," 00:12:53.13\00:12:55.50 and then it's followed by a threat, "Oh really?" 00:12:55.54\00:12:58.14 "Really? I don't think so." 00:12:59.01\00:13:00.44 "You're not breaking up with me." 00:13:00.48\00:13:02.98 So, anyone that sounds like either because of use of force, 00:13:03.01\00:13:08.55 you know, control or using some kind of manipulative technique 00:13:08.58\00:13:15.92 like crying or begging or fainting or "I'm going to die." 00:13:15.96\00:13:21.43 Can't live without you. Yeah, all of that. 00:13:21.46\00:13:22.83 You want to make sure that you don't fall for that. 00:13:22.86\00:13:25.87 Now I have to say, some people get so neurotic 00:13:25.90\00:13:28.24 and so emotional about it that they have said 00:13:28.27\00:13:32.81 threatened, "You know, I'm going to take my life 00:13:32.84\00:13:35.44 if you leave me," and that has happened 00:13:35.48\00:13:37.55 more often than you would think. 00:13:37.58\00:13:39.65 Now for something like that, you would want to pause, 00:13:39.68\00:13:41.28 it doesn't mean that you're staying in the relationship, 00:13:41.32\00:13:42.65 but you want to stay around to make sure that 00:13:42.68\00:13:44.52 she is not serious. 00:13:44.55\00:13:45.95 You know, you don't want to off with a 00:13:46.35\00:13:48.72 guilty conscience because you tried to establish 00:13:48.76\00:13:52.03 your boundaries and didn't give a care 00:13:52.06\00:13:53.53 for whether or not she was serious. 00:13:53.56\00:13:54.90 She might need some kind of help, 00:13:54.93\00:13:57.27 in terms of psychiatric help, psychological help, 00:13:57.30\00:13:59.77 and you want to be there for that, 00:13:59.80\00:14:01.30 but once that is done, you're taking off, right? 00:14:01.34\00:14:07.64 Okay, so those are some ideas I wanted to share with 00:14:07.68\00:14:10.58 you guys with regard to control and I think if you keep 00:14:10.61\00:14:13.48 those simple things in mind, 00:14:13.52\00:14:15.15 I think you guys will do just fine. 00:14:15.18\00:14:16.89 Okay, thank you! All right? 00:14:16.92\00:14:18.25 So I'll see you next time. Thanks! 00:14:18.29\00:14:20.32 Hello and welcome back to "Road to Romance" 00:14:28.53\00:14:30.90 We're joined again by Vania and Jeremiah. 00:14:30.93\00:14:33.90 Welcome! Thank you. 00:14:33.94\00:14:35.30 I thought today we could cover 00:14:35.34\00:14:36.74 control and controlling behavior. 00:14:36.77\00:14:39.11 So, let me start by defining what controlling behavior 00:14:39.14\00:14:42.84 looks like in a relationship. 00:14:42.88\00:14:44.91 So controlling behavior is the power to directly 00:14:44.95\00:14:48.08 influence another person's actions behavioral choices, 00:14:48.12\00:14:53.76 but not just influence, but influence to someone 00:14:53.79\00:14:57.73 who doesn't want to be influenced... 00:14:57.76\00:15:00.00 So it's an unwanted influence, Okay 00:15:00.03\00:15:02.33 and when it unwanted, it's control, okay? 00:15:02.36\00:15:06.10 So I'm going to do this a little different with you guys, 00:15:06.13\00:15:09.04 and I'd like to start by sharing examples of control... 00:15:09.07\00:15:12.74 And the reason why I want to do that is because I've 00:15:12.77\00:15:14.81 run into a lot of couples, I have a lot of wives that 00:15:14.84\00:15:18.21 come to me and they were complaining about the husband's 00:15:18.25\00:15:20.75 controlling behavior or the other way around. 00:15:20.78\00:15:23.05 It's no longer just the man that's controlling, 00:15:23.08\00:15:25.35 we're having a lot of complaints from men who feel 00:15:25.39\00:15:28.56 that there're being totally run over and then I would 00:15:28.59\00:15:32.99 talk to the wife about it and she would say, 00:15:33.03\00:15:35.10 "Control? I've never controlled my husband, never." 00:15:35.13\00:15:38.83 You would have no idea. No idea! 00:15:38.87\00:15:40.97 It's so natural. Right, it's natural and it's 00:15:41.00\00:15:43.71 very subtle, so I'd thought I would take a look 00:15:43.74\00:15:46.41 at some of the behaviors that were being reported to me 00:15:46.44\00:15:50.01 and share some with you. 00:15:50.05\00:15:52.21 So, #1- Lecturing your partner about what should be done... 00:15:52.25\00:15:58.35 is controlling behavior - you're not a lecturer, 00:15:58.39\00:16:01.76 you're a husband. 00:16:01.79\00:16:03.12 You're not allowed to keep the broken record going 00:16:03.16\00:16:06.49 over and over - you're allowed to ask, you know, 00:16:06.53\00:16:09.13 but you know what the posture of lecturing looks like. 00:16:09.16\00:16:12.73 It's a bit condescending. Okay? 00:16:12.77\00:16:15.47 Hacking the conversation with your interruptions. 00:16:15.50\00:16:19.87 That's controlling. 00:16:19.91\00:16:21.94 So, Vania is trying to make a point - she's trying to 00:16:21.98\00:16:24.18 explain something to you and the way you control 00:16:24.21\00:16:27.25 the outcome of this conversation is by constant 00:16:27.28\00:16:29.95 interruption and speaking above her, 00:16:29.98\00:16:32.85 a couple of decibels, you know, above you louder, 00:16:32.89\00:16:36.66 and trying to shut her down that way. 00:16:36.69\00:16:39.96 Okay and what about if someone is talking and then 00:16:40.00\00:16:45.03 you start saying something else - so it's like 00:16:45.07\00:16:47.44 you change the conversation. 00:16:47.47\00:16:50.44 That's a good point, deflection! 00:16:50.47\00:16:53.07 So you're trying to get them away from talking 00:16:53.11\00:16:55.14 about what they're talking about and that is also 00:16:55.18\00:16:57.68 a form of control. 00:16:57.71\00:16:59.18 Some people use what they call "piggybacking." 00:16:59.21\00:17:01.58 So Jeremiah comes to you with a complaint and you don't 00:17:01.62\00:17:04.89 even address it - you jump in with something he did 00:17:04.92\00:17:08.62 two weeks ago that you thought was something you should 00:17:08.66\00:17:12.99 have complained about but didn't. Okay 00:17:13.03\00:17:14.93 So that's another form of control - you're trying to 00:17:14.96\00:17:18.10 make sure that he doesn't get his point across, 00:17:18.13\00:17:20.60 so that it's not going to be dealt with. 00:17:20.64\00:17:22.60 Now "serial talking" which is making sure that you keep 00:17:22.64\00:17:27.94 talking and talking and talking and talking so that 00:17:27.98\00:17:31.61 your partner has no time left to insert their concerns... 00:17:31.65\00:17:36.12 So it happens especially when you have like 10 minutes 00:17:36.15\00:17:38.72 left or maybe you guys have gone to the doctor... 00:17:38.75\00:17:41.29 So you have a doctor's appointment and you know 00:17:41.32\00:17:42.66 he is going to call you and in 5 minutes and that's 00:17:42.69\00:17:44.39 when you drop the bomb and you keep talking and talking 00:17:44.43\00:17:47.93 so that you run out the clock, 00:17:47.96\00:17:49.63 like a football game. Exactly Right? 00:17:49.66\00:17:52.37 That's not allowed! That's controlling behavior. 00:17:52.40\00:17:55.77 Now insisting that anything or something is done, 00:17:55.80\00:17:59.61 only when you say it should be done and should be done 00:17:59.64\00:18:04.11 exactly how you want it to be done, immediately 00:18:04.15\00:18:08.18 rather than some other time. That's controlling behavior. 00:18:08.22\00:18:13.42 So there has to be some flexibility there 00:18:13.46\00:18:15.52 to where if you have a need to talk right at that moment, 00:18:15.56\00:18:18.69 but the other person, for whatever reason may 00:18:18.73\00:18:20.96 say, "You know what, maybe it's best if we postpone 00:18:21.00\00:18:24.37 this conversation until maybe later today or something 00:18:24.40\00:18:27.14 like that which is still fairly quickly to resolve the matter. 00:18:27.17\00:18:29.64 But you're respecting their right to say, "I'm choosing 00:18:29.67\00:18:32.64 to remove myself from this conversation at this time. 00:18:32.67\00:18:35.44 So the person has to be allowed to have that time 00:18:35.48\00:18:38.65 to say, "We need to break from this conversation." Yeah 00:18:38.68\00:18:40.45 And not just conversation... What if Vania asked you to 00:18:40.48\00:18:44.35 take your shoes from the living room and put them back 00:18:44.65\00:18:48.62 in the closet? 00:18:48.66\00:18:49.99 If Vania expects you to do it 10 seconds before the words 00:18:50.03\00:18:54.96 drop from her lips, that's controlling behavior. 00:18:55.00\00:18:58.40 This is the way we grew up... our parents expected 00:18:58.43\00:19:01.57 immediate obedience. Right 00:19:01.60\00:19:04.17 If what you have to do to comply with your partner feels like 00:19:04.21\00:19:07.84 immediate obedience is required, it's controlling. 00:19:07.88\00:19:11.61 And what about if he asks me to put away my shoes, 00:19:11.65\00:19:17.59 and he expects me to do it in 2 hours and I find it 00:19:17.62\00:19:21.36 okay to do it in 10 hours? 00:19:21.39\00:19:24.63 Ah, that's a good one. That's a good one! Laughter 00:19:24.66\00:19:29.20 That's a good one because now you guys are going to have to 00:19:29.23\00:19:31.47 compromise on what exactly is reasonable 00:19:31.50\00:19:35.57 because 2 hours might not be a problem, 00:19:35.60\00:19:38.27 but 10 hours would be a horrible thing if you had 00:19:38.31\00:19:40.98 some guests coming over in 5 hours... 00:19:41.01\00:19:43.18 So this is something that you guys would have to decide, 00:19:43.21\00:19:45.11 but that's a good point. 00:19:45.15\00:19:46.58 I think the controlling is really when you want 00:19:46.61\00:19:48.78 it to be done now for now. Okay 00:19:48.82\00:19:51.05 But I would try to not be too rigid on the exact time, 00:19:51.72\00:19:55.19 like I would try to not say, "Okay, 2 hours and I'm watching 00:19:55.22\00:19:57.63 my clock... let me see, he has 5 minutes 00:19:57.66\00:19:59.46 to move those shoes or there's trouble," you know. 00:19:59.49\00:20:01.83 I would try not to do that, but that's a good question. 00:20:01.86\00:20:05.90 Thinking you're always right! That is controlling. 00:20:05.93\00:20:10.87 Mostly because you're not. I was going to say... 00:20:10.91\00:20:13.84 it's more than controlling, it's dangerous. 00:20:13.88\00:20:15.21 It's dangerous. You're not always right. 00:20:15.24\00:20:16.81 Even if you are the man of the house, you're not always right. 00:20:16.85\00:20:20.38 If you were always right, you probably 00:20:20.42\00:20:21.75 wouldn't need a partner. Exactly 00:20:21.78\00:20:23.72 You could just do all the thinking, do all the planning... 00:20:23.75\00:20:27.19 do you live your life? 00:20:27.22\00:20:29.82 You wouldn't need Vania. Exactly 00:20:29.86\00:20:31.69 So if you find yourself thinking, even most of the time, 00:20:31.73\00:20:35.46 that you're always right... I was say that is controlling 00:20:35.50\00:20:37.80 behavior. Okay? 00:20:37.83\00:20:39.63 "Overreacting to little things." 00:20:39.67\00:20:43.30 We have more X-types that do that than Y-types 00:20:43.34\00:20:47.88 because X-types are more reactive and they're more 00:20:47.91\00:20:50.91 emotional - so reacting to every little thing 00:20:50.95\00:20:54.28 it's a form of manipulation and manipulation 00:20:54.32\00:20:57.42 can easily be controlled. 00:20:57.45\00:20:59.75 So you want to make sure that you choose 00:20:59.79\00:21:02.39 what you're going to react to and not everything 00:21:02.42\00:21:05.29 needs a reaction. 00:21:05.33\00:21:06.66 You're always quick to point out how your partner 00:21:06.70\00:21:09.36 is doing something wrong... if that is your style, 00:21:09.40\00:21:13.60 then you're affecting your partner's self-esteem. 00:21:13.64\00:21:16.81 If the only thing that comes out of your mouth is, 00:21:16.84\00:21:19.31 "You broke this again, you broke another glass," 00:21:19.34\00:21:22.68 you know what I'm saying, and even if it's true, 00:21:22.71\00:21:25.45 the point is if you are doing this repeatedly, 00:21:25.48\00:21:28.58 then you're affecting the person's self-esteem. 00:21:28.62\00:21:31.02 One of our most notable scientists on the West Coast 00:21:31.05\00:21:37.19 that studies marital satisfaction has found 00:21:37.23\00:21:41.03 that the ratio of criticism, even constructive criticism, 00:21:41.06\00:21:45.67 the compliments, the ratio should be what? 00:21:45.70\00:21:50.31 It should really be 1:5, in other words, 00:21:50.34\00:21:52.97 you should complement five times more than you're criticized, 00:21:53.01\00:21:59.08 and this is scientific, he has measured it. 00:21:59.11\00:22:01.58 What he has found is... When the ratio of compliments 00:22:01.62\00:22:05.15 to criticism gets down to 1:1, they are just about ready 00:22:05.19\00:22:12.63 to start talking about going their separate ways. Wow 00:22:12.66\00:22:16.93 You would have thought 1:1, a lot of people think 00:22:16.97\00:22:19.53 "Come on now, give her a compliment for every time 00:22:19.57\00:22:21.17 I give her a criticism, I'm doing good." 00:22:21.20\00:22:22.64 Not according to the research. 00:22:22.67\00:22:25.04 If you're not 5:1, you are on dangerous ground. 00:22:25.07\00:22:29.84 Yeah... I was going to say, that's one 00:22:30.41\00:22:31.75 of the things that I actually try to do with her is 00:22:31.78\00:22:34.38 you know, I try to be as complimentary as I can 00:22:34.42\00:22:36.99 with just about everything, you know, whenever I notice 00:22:37.02\00:22:39.19 something that maybe most people 00:22:39.22\00:22:41.49 wouldn't give a thought to... 00:22:41.52\00:22:43.16 I'm like, "Oh, I see that this is what you're doing," 00:22:43.19\00:22:45.96 I encourage her, I like to feel like - I'm helping make a 00:22:45.99\00:22:49.66 difference positively in bringing her down. Yeah 00:22:49.70\00:22:52.67 I like that about you! I bet you do, I bet you do. 00:22:52.70\00:22:56.50 You probably do the same thing too. Yes, yes. 00:22:56.54\00:22:58.31 The reason why I'm guessing is because, again, it's hormonal. 00:22:58.34\00:23:02.14 They found that oxytocin actually causes 00:23:02.18\00:23:04.91 people to be more attentive. 00:23:04.95\00:23:06.28 They've actually done experiments where they've 00:23:06.31\00:23:08.28 offered nasal spray to men who were inattentive and then 00:23:08.32\00:23:12.59 once the men got the nasal oxytocin spray, 00:23:12.62\00:23:15.66 they would go to their wives and say, "Oh my gosh, 00:23:15.69\00:23:18.23 your eyes are blue and when did you cut your hair, 00:23:18.26\00:23:21.56 I really like that." 00:23:21.60\00:23:23.06 That was the first time that they had seen this, 00:23:23.10\00:23:24.83 and the wife said, "Well, I had this like 6 months ago." 00:23:24.87\00:23:26.90 But that is the power of oxytocin, so those of you that 00:23:27.70\00:23:29.94 are naturally high in oxytocin, it's easier for you to be 00:23:29.97\00:23:33.01 attentive that way, but it's absolutely essential. 00:23:33.04\00:23:36.68 We found that people who cannot bring aspects of their own 00:23:36.71\00:23:40.62 lives under control - so that it relieves their stress, 00:23:40.65\00:23:44.95 tend to want to control someone else's. 00:23:44.99\00:23:49.19 If I have a whole lot of things in my life that I just, 00:23:49.22\00:23:52.76 I'm trying but I'm not getting anywhere with them, 00:23:52.79\00:23:55.30 then sometimes I might think it's easier for me to try 00:23:55.33\00:23:58.10 with your life - I can get you to comply quicker than 00:23:58.13\00:24:02.74 I can get myself to comply with the very things that 00:24:02.77\00:24:04.71 I need to fix. 00:24:04.74\00:24:06.24 How aware are they that they're... 00:24:06.27\00:24:09.61 They're not, oh they're not. 00:24:09.64\00:24:10.98 I was going to ask the same thing. No, not at all. 00:24:11.01\00:24:12.85 They'll be aware now when they view the program, 00:24:12.88\00:24:15.62 they'll be aware when you share with them, 00:24:15.65\00:24:17.19 they'll be aware, but most times they are 00:24:17.22\00:24:18.89 not aware at all. 00:24:18.92\00:24:21.09 If you keep overthrowing your partner's plans in favor of 00:24:21.12\00:24:24.89 yours, you are controlling. 00:24:24.93\00:24:31.27 There has to be a time when you are going to let her plans 00:24:31.30\00:24:33.84 stand and you're going to say, "You know what, 00:24:33.87\00:24:35.77 honey, let's just do what you want us to do tonight." 00:24:35.80\00:24:39.61 It does not always have to be about you. 00:24:39.64\00:24:43.55 Let me ask you a question to that end... 00:24:43.58\00:24:45.28 So if, because you were talking about control, 00:24:45.31\00:24:47.98 and in a previous segment I recall you saying that 00:24:48.02\00:24:51.79 you have the right to establish your boundaries, it's okay, 00:24:51.82\00:24:56.93 "I want to wear this, I don't want to 00:24:56.96\00:24:58.63 wear this and things like that. 00:24:58.66\00:25:00.00 So if you say to your partner, "I want to stay in," 00:25:00.03\00:25:03.16 but then she wants to go out... you're not 00:25:03.20\00:25:04.73 stopping her from going out, but she insists that you go out 00:25:04.77\00:25:07.37 with her, so how do you draw that line right there. 00:25:07.40\00:25:09.30 Same rule... if every time she wants to go out or often 00:25:09.34\00:25:14.01 that she wants to go out, you want to stay at home, 00:25:14.04\00:25:17.88 that's controlling behavior, mostly because 00:25:17.91\00:25:21.92 she wants to go out with you. Okay 00:25:21.95\00:25:23.69 Now if she said, "I want to go out, but you don't 00:25:23.72\00:25:26.05 have to come, it's okay, I'll go with my girlfriends," 00:25:26.09\00:25:30.86 that's different, but you know that she probably doesn't 00:25:30.89\00:25:33.80 have a bunch of girlfriends, she does not too many friends 00:25:33.83\00:25:35.93 out here and so she's relying on you to go, 00:25:35.96\00:25:38.37 but you're always tired or you're 00:25:38.40\00:25:39.73 a homebody and you want to stay home... 00:25:39.77\00:25:41.14 It's okay to do that, but not most of the time 00:25:41.17\00:25:44.57 or that becomes controlling behavior or selfish behavior. 00:25:44.61\00:25:50.38 Also, no backhanded compliments, backhanded compliments 00:25:50.41\00:25:54.58 you cannot say to your wife, "Of course, you know you're not 00:25:54.62\00:25:57.32 as fat as you used to be." Laughter 00:25:57.35\00:26:00.66 I know what you're trying to say, but where are you 00:26:00.69\00:26:03.36 going to sleep tonight - I mean on the sofa probably. Right? 00:26:03.39\00:26:06.59 Yeah, if you're not already there. 00:26:06.63\00:26:09.70 Before we go to our spiritual application, 00:26:09.73\00:26:11.43 I wanted to share one point, I have spoken to many women 00:26:11.47\00:26:15.47 who said they could not turn over the leadership 00:26:15.50\00:26:19.31 to their men because they didn't trust his judgment 00:26:19.34\00:26:23.65 and that's a difficult place to be - because the Bible 00:26:23.68\00:26:27.65 does imply that the husband has the leadership role. 00:26:27.68\00:26:30.42 But if you don't trust His judgment to do the right 00:26:30.45\00:26:33.99 thing for the family, why would you want to 00:26:34.02\00:26:36.29 turn it over? 00:26:36.32\00:26:38.16 So before we go, I wanted to talk about freedom. 00:26:38.19\00:26:40.83 You know the Bible says, "Where the Spirit of the Lord 00:26:40.86\00:26:43.13 is, there is liberty," 2 Corinthians 3:17 00:26:43.16\00:26:46.94 Freedom - wherever the Spirit of the Lord is... 00:26:46.97\00:26:49.77 If you think the Spirit of the Lord is in your home, 00:26:49.80\00:26:52.47 then guess what? Your wife will tell her 00:26:52.51\00:26:56.04 friends, "I feel pretty free." 00:26:56.08\00:26:57.98 "My husband allows me to be who I am." Right 00:26:58.01\00:27:01.08 If she says anything else, then something is wrong with 00:27:01.12\00:27:04.92 your spirit walk. 00:27:04.95\00:27:06.96 Remember why Christ died. 00:27:06.99\00:27:08.79 Remember what happened with Adam and Eve. 00:27:08.82\00:27:10.99 Remember Christ thought so much about freedom 00:27:11.03\00:27:12.96 that He put that tree in the Garden of Eden, 00:27:12.99\00:27:15.53 He didn't have to. 00:27:15.56\00:27:17.37 We wouldn't be here today if he didn't, 00:27:17.40\00:27:19.53 but He did that because of the value that He 00:27:19.57\00:27:22.00 places on freedom and it's an affront to God, I think, 00:27:22.04\00:27:26.57 for anyone to feel that they have a right 00:27:26.61\00:27:28.58 to control another human being even if it's your wife. Right 00:27:28.61\00:27:33.75 It's not right, then Christ died in vain because He 00:27:33.78\00:27:37.69 died so that she could be free. Does that make sense? 00:27:37.72\00:27:40.89 It makes perfect sense. And God doesn't even 00:27:40.92\00:27:42.49 force us to choose for Him. 00:27:42.52\00:27:44.39 No, He does not... He doesn't even for us 00:27:44.43\00:27:47.73 to choose Him - even that He allows up to us. 00:27:47.76\00:27:52.40 Even though He wants that, but He gives us the free choice. 00:27:52.43\00:27:55.14 Absolutely. 00:27:55.17\00:27:56.67 So I would like to thank you guys for being on 00:27:56.71\00:27:59.67 the program today and I am going to see you both next time. 00:27:59.71\00:28:04.68