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Hormone Therapy: Vasopressin and Oxytocin

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Participants: Dr. John Jacob (Host), Sean Brereton, Miles Rashad, Bianca Acosta, Jeremiah Dieujuste, Vania Dieujuste

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00:22 Hello and welcome to "Road to Romance"
00:24 I'm your host Dr. John Jacob
00:26 Today, I have with me Vania and Jeremiah, welcome!
00:31 Thank you. It's good to be back.
00:32 So today, we're going to talk about hormones,
00:34 and it's, you know, a good discussion, it's interesting,
00:38 you'll learn some new things,
00:39 and you'll also learn some things to avoid.
00:42 You guys are a new couple and we want to make sure that
00:45 we keep you guys together forever,
00:47 that's the goal, right? Yes!
00:49 So oxytocin is the most important hormone
00:52 to you two guys.
00:53 You've heard about dopamine and you've heard about
00:56 testosterone, you've heard about a host of chemicals,
00:58 but this particular chemical, it's a hormone and it's
01:01 absolutely important to bonding...
01:03 So, let me give you a few facts about it.
01:06 It is created in the hypothalamus of your brain.
01:09 There's a little center in the middle of your brain that
01:12 actually produces the neurotransmitter, oxytocin,
01:15 but there's a lot that you could do to increase the production.
01:19 So oxytocin is the glue that keeps couples together.
01:24 And, you know you go through various stages
01:26 of a relationship and when you get to the last stage,
01:29 and for a lot of people, it's an "if" to get the last stage,
01:32 you have survived because oxytocin has made it possible.
01:36 It keeps you guys together just like glue. Okay?
01:39 So, for instance, oxytocin causes you to make what we call
01:45 oxytocin bids or oxy bids where you actually bid
01:48 for the attention or the affection of your partner.
01:51 So Vania, when he reached out his hand to grab your hand,
01:56 the last time you guys were walking the beach,
01:59 and you thought it was something that he thought of?
02:01 Not so much!
02:03 It was his hormone, oxytocin, that was
02:05 was causing him to reach out.
02:06 You brain tells you when you are low in oxytocin
02:08 and when you get low, your brain says,
02:10 "Hey, why don't you reach out and grab a hand,"
02:14 and when you do that, immediately,
02:16 oxytocin begins to flow through your body.
02:20 So it's an automatic mechanism intended, of course,
02:23 to keep you guys together.
02:25 Now what we found is that oxytocin is also
02:27 responsible for the feeling of forgiveness...
02:31 You know how you've asked people to forgive and forget?
02:33 Well this is a recent discovery that couples who find it
02:37 easy to forgive and forget their shortcomings
02:40 are couples who have a lot of oxytocin going around.
02:44 Interesting! Yeah?
02:45 So the goal, the goal with oxytocin is to make sure
02:48 that you keep those levels really, really high up. Okay?
02:52 Now, they found also that when couples stray,
02:56 or if a partner strays...
02:58 You know we used to think that it had something to do
03:01 primarily with a sex drive, and now what they're realizing
03:05 is that very often, that's not it at all.
03:07 So we call it, you know we have a name for everything.
03:11 We call this one in XY Theory, we call it "type infidelity."
03:16 So type infidelity means this...
03:18 You guys have your personality types,
03:20 remember we looked at them? Yes
03:21 Okay, your personality types drive your needs.
03:25 It tells you what type of needs your wife has,
03:28 and it tells you, Vania, what your husband
03:31 needs on a regular daily basis. That's correct.
03:33 Here's the problem...
03:35 If you were to ignore his needs for a long period of time,
03:40 and he were to go to work or wherever - travel maybe,
03:45 and those needs have not been met,
03:48 he actually does not have to plan to be unfaithful to you.
03:53 Why? Because his brain is working all the time,
03:56 and what the brain says to him is, "Hey, remember
04:00 Miss Jones right across the cubical from where you are,
04:03 you notice how she always smiles at you?
04:06 You notice how you feel when she smiles at you?"
04:08 And then he'll say, "And what about Mary behind you?
04:11 She's always talking and you love conversation,
04:14 but you're not getting much of that at home anymore, are you?"
04:17 Now these are not his thoughts, he is not intentional
04:21 with this at all... this is his brain talking
04:24 and saying, "I need oxytocin."
04:27 So what I hear you saying is that my brain
04:29 has a mind of its own pretty much?
04:31 Yes, absolutely!
04:33 Your brain has a mind of its own, that's correct.
04:36 Can't argue with that.
04:37 So and he would be completely innocent?
04:39 We just have to blame the brain?
04:42 Laughter... No blaming the brain,
04:46 and "no," he's not completely innocent.
04:49 And if you thought he were completely innocent,
04:51 you wouldn't be laughing, right?
04:53 No, he has a responsibility, I'm glad you asked,
04:56 but we have a rather large brain - one of the largest
04:59 in the animal kingdom and the brain has a prefrontal
05:04 cortex - right about here, and your prefrontal cortex
05:07 is responsible for all final decisions. Right
05:10 So no matter what the hormones say to him,
05:13 no matter what they prompt him to do,
05:15 the final decision is still his. Okay
05:18 He has to make that decision.
05:19 Now, he'll have the feeling, he'll have the inclination,
05:23 but he could say, "Shut it down, shut it down right now."
05:26 And that's where like a moral compass would kick in.
05:28 And that's where your moral compass comes in. Exactly
05:31 So, you know, and we trust that
05:33 that is working as it should because it's supposed to
05:37 click in and say, "Hey, you know what? You have a moral
05:40 obligation to your wife and you don't want to do this,
05:43 and all of this is in that prefrontal cortex.
05:45 There are some other areas in your brain that are
05:47 responsible for moral decisions, but they all work in tandem.
05:50 They work hand-in-hand to make sure that you don't go there.
05:53 But my problem, my worry is whether or not you or
05:58 other guys out there would notice the steps.
06:01 You see, we only notice something when it's
06:03 uncomfortable - when we feel the burn.
06:08 We don't notice it when, for instance,
06:10 Mary approaches you and you guys are having conversation
06:12 maybe for a couple of months and the conversation is
06:17 really very superficial, is very platonic,
06:20 there's nothing inappropriate,
06:22 as far as you're concerned, right?
06:23 Until the day your brain says, "Hey, Jeremiah,
06:27 you noticed something?
06:29 You're closer, you're more bonded with Mary
06:32 than you are with Vania, what are you going to do about that?
06:37 I'm a little tired of having a short fall on oxytocin.
06:41 Why don't you hook up with Mary" - tell Vania that
06:44 you guys have drifted apart... you've heard that before. Yes
06:48 When people say that, that's what's happening.
06:50 It's the brain that is saying, "I am tired of NOT
06:53 receiving what I need and so I think you should make that
06:56 "immoral" move." Right
06:59 So what we need to do is to help you guys to recognize
07:03 the bids - once you recognize the bids, Vania you could
07:07 keep providing him with the oxytocin that he needs
07:10 and he should never, ever find himself here.
07:13 And I would think that it's also wise that you have to look at
07:20 what you do, like prevent certain things like prevent
07:25 getting into certain situations.
07:27 That's a good point.
07:29 Being intentional about how you deal with the opposite sex,
07:33 and, yeah, what kind of friendships you have.
07:37 Don't put yourself in certain situations.
07:38 Now you know, people talk a lot about emotional infidelity,
07:42 but there is social infidelity as well because if you
07:46 put yourself in a social situation where you're
07:48 befriending someone or you're confiding in them
07:50 about your life, about your wife, about your marriage,
07:53 you're not emotional yet, but it's coming...
07:58 So you have to be careful where you put yourself,
08:00 you know, if you want to keep yourself protected.
08:02 Also, we tend to focus on connection.
08:05 "What is it that's going to keep me connected to my wife,"
08:08 but we don't focus so much on disconnectors,
08:10 and there are quite a few disconnectors.
08:12 Here's one... We know for a fact now that
08:15 fatigue, tiredness, stress, depletes the oxytocin level.
08:21 So if you come from home and from work and Vania says,
08:24 "Hey, help me around the house, please - I'm tired,
08:26 I've been working all day," and you say,
08:28 "You know honey, I'm a little more tired that you are."
08:29 That wouldn't work.
08:32 That wouldn't work, right? It wouldn't work well for Vania,
08:34 but if it worked with anyone at all, guess what happens?
08:36 The oxytocin level goes down and it goes down,
08:40 and, of course, later on that night maybe the husband is
08:43 feeling a little amorous and he wants to get together with
08:46 his wife in a physical way and she doesn't want to.
08:49 Why? Because this is the level that her oxytocin has reduced to
08:53 and he didn't realize that he needed to do some things
08:56 differently if he had any intention that night
08:58 of getting close to you... so that's one.
09:00 Another one is the voice.
09:02 How you talk to your wife, the tone that you use,
09:06 the expression, the micro expressions
09:09 in your face - she reads and what she is unable to read,
09:13 her brain reads - it's something called "neuroception."
09:15 Her brain can actually read your intent
09:19 even if you never said a word.
09:21 So this isn't about hiding your feelings,
09:23 this is about not having those ill feelings
09:26 to your wedded wife at all.
09:28 So you can't have ill-will, you can't have ill-feelings,
09:31 you can't speak ill of your wife,
09:32 you can't use words that would hurt her,
09:35 and also tone plays a vital role.
09:38 If you have the wrong tone, you actually could deplete
09:42 and bring down her levels of her oxytocin,
09:46 and you could actually raise her stress levels.
09:48 And how easily can that happen...
09:51 Like for example, like can my level drop today
09:54 from 10 to 5, for example, and then
09:56 tomorrow it goes back to 8? Yes
09:58 Like how exactly does it work?
10:00 Up and down. Up and down. Yes
10:01 But you don't want to keep it down because
10:05 when you keep it down, you build resentment,
10:07 and, over time resentment is very difficult to reverse.
10:10 The oxytocin levels you can reverse easily,
10:13 but the resentment that builds because it's low...
10:15 that's not so easy.
10:17 Now here is something else...
10:19 What will determine what Jeremiah's tone of his voice,
10:21 what determines that?
10:23 It's called "natural tone," and you guys talked about
10:26 coming from two different families, right?
10:28 Your family was vivacious and bubbly and outgoing,
10:30 and you said your family was reserved
10:33 and conservative, right?
10:34 So guess what? There's a chance that
10:35 your family used a different tone of voice to communicate
10:39 on what we call a basal level; their natural tone,
10:42 their normal tone, but not her family...
10:44 so when you speak to her in your calmest voice,
10:47 what her brain hears is, "Why are you screaming at me,
10:50 stop screaming at me, I didn't do anything,
10:51 are you upset with me?" "What?"
10:53 That's what her brain gets. Um hm
10:55 And so, as couples, you guys have to talk about this.
10:58 She has to say, "Jeremiah, I didn't like your tone."
11:00 And then what you will say is, "Oh, that was my best voice,
11:03 I'm not mad at you." Um hm
11:04 And then you have to realize that it's not about you,
11:07 it's about her perception of you.
11:08 That's all it is, yeah. Right?
11:10 That's another thing that reduces that oxytocin level.
11:13 And I have to tell you guys, children...
11:16 When children come on the scene, testosterone levels fall,
11:20 oxytocin levels fall because she is now directing her
11:23 attention to the little ones and bonding with them
11:27 which means that she's not bonding as much with you.
11:30 Okay, can it increase again? It can. Laughter
11:35 Are you going to give the kids away? No. Laughter
11:38 No, it can increase, but it will have to be intentional.
11:41 And by that, I mean you're going to have to find a way to
11:43 divide your time so he continues
11:45 to receive the attention that he needs.
11:47 Remember, he has high needs of communication,
11:50 and he has high needs of intimacy.
11:53 That is not going to go away because you guys have kids now.
11:57 And don't think because he is the father of those kids
11:59 he'd be okay with you spending time with his kids
12:01 and leaving him out. Okay
12:03 It just doesn't work that way.
12:04 Unless we like do more like family activities where we can
12:08 incorporate everyone together. Exactly
12:10 But still, you have your individual needs.
12:13 You have your individual needs and those needs must be met.
12:15 So if you guys pay attention, just pay attention,
12:17 just be intentional about providing for each other's needs
12:21 at all times, you won't have to worry
12:23 about anything. All right? Yeah!
12:26 Thank you again. Thank you!
12:27 Thank you. Great information. Okay.
12:38 Hello and welcome back to "Road to Romance"
12:40 Joining me again are Sean, Bianca and Miles, welcome!
12:45 Thank you - hello. Good to be back again!
12:46 So let's begin our discussion again with hormones
12:49 and focus a bit on oxytocin. All right.
12:52 So oxytocin, as you know, is one of eight neurochemicals
12:56 in the brain that controls the behavior
13:00 of folks like you, dating, right?
13:03 So anything anyone of you could tell me about oxytocin?
13:10 Oh I know it's really strong when a cat has her kittens,
13:15 and she's able to feed a squirrel even though it's not
13:21 one of her babies and usually would be prey,
13:23 but the oxytocin is just saying "be a mother,
13:26 take care of this baby."
13:27 And Bianca is right on target. Um hm
13:30 Mentioning animals, this is how we, as humans, discovered
13:33 this wonderful hormone.
13:35 We first noticed it in voles, they look like little rats,
13:40 and they're out on the prairie.
13:42 And so they discovered that these voles were monogamous,
13:45 more monogamous than we are.
13:47 And so a vole would find another vole and they would
13:50 stay together for life.
13:52 If an eagle swooped down from the sky and grabbed up the male,
13:56 she would stand there looking up into the heavens
13:59 sad and would never date another vole for the rest of her life.
14:04 This is how monogamous they are, so it caught the attention
14:06 of some scientists and they thought, "Wow, so we're
14:09 kind of monogamous too, I wonder if we have the same
14:11 chemical inside of us."
14:13 So they studied these creatures a little more and they
14:15 realized that it was oxytocin that was responsible
14:19 for the fidelity, responsible for the faithfulness,
14:22 for the idea that they would never want to date anyone else.
14:25 When they observed the voles, Bianca - this would really
14:28 interest you, they found that the female vole
14:32 once she made a decision to be with this male vole,
14:35 she and he never, ever looked at another vole
14:39 for the rest of their lives.
14:41 In fact, the male vole is so faithful that if
14:45 female voles run across the prairie at him,
14:48 he runs in the opposite direction.
14:49 So he just needs some oxytocin.
14:51 Laughter. Humans can learn from that! Exactly
14:54 I mean, a lot of humans could benefit from that, right?
14:57 There's no lookie loo looking at the girl as she walks by,
15:00 oh no, he's going the other way to avoid the appearance of evil.
15:04 Wow! Amen, amen. Right?
15:06 Good spiritual lessons here. Absolutely!
15:08 So they decided, let's check and see if humans have
15:11 oxytocin and they realized we have
15:14 quite a bit of it, quite a bit.
15:15 So oxytocin is responsible for bonding,
15:18 but here's the problem, Sean, we don't have equal amounts
15:22 of oxytocin - some of us have a lot, some of us have a little,
15:27 and some of us have more receptors in the brain to
15:30 absorb the oxytocin so it could be effective.
15:34 Now this formed the basis for XY Theory because I realized
15:36 that some folks tended to bond more easily with others,
15:41 and once we checked, of course it checked out that folks that
15:44 were X-type with high needs for communication
15:49 and intimacy - guess what happened?
15:51 They had higher levels of oxytocin. Okay
15:54 So they decided to do experiments all over the world.
15:58 They did experiments at weddings.
16:00 They found that the side of the groom - the folks had less
16:03 oxytocin; on the bride's side, they had more oxytocin,
16:08 and they just kept doing experiment after experiment.
16:10 They will experiment with guys who were not romantic.
16:12 They would have less oxytocin and guys who were more
16:15 romantic had more oxytocin and so it's accepted...
16:20 Oxytocin is the primary agent for bonding. Okay?
16:25 So let's take a little look at some of the other facts
16:28 about oxytocin.
16:30 Oxytocin is responsible for bonding in monogamous mammals,
16:35 and there are only 3% of mammals worldwide
16:39 that are monogamous and we happen to be in that
16:43 fortunate group.
16:44 Whether we choose to show that or not is up to us as
16:48 individuals and, again, the prefrontal cortex,
16:51 your decision-making center, you get to decide that
16:54 for yourself, but we are one of 3%.
16:58 We also produce oxytocin by touching and talking.
17:02 Now that's the simplest way I can ever explain that to anyone.
17:05 Like if you wanted to explain that to a 10-year-old,
17:07 all you have to say is, Oxytocin is produced
17:10 by talking and touching," that's it,
17:14 scarcely anything else.
17:16 There's hardly any other way to produce oxytocin
17:19 other than how much you talk and how much you touch...
17:23 Any by touch, it's not just about physical touch,
17:26 but emotional touch, okay?
17:29 Let's look at the next slide...
17:32 So "vasopressin" - what is "vasopressin?"
17:36 It sounds a lot like oxytocin.
17:38 Vasopressin allows men, Y- type men to bond with
17:42 women they feel meet their blueprint.
17:45 I have to point out the same goes for Y-type women.
17:50 They also have a blueprint.
17:51 This is very, very important especially for singles.
17:55 I've heard of several stories, folks have come to me and said,
17:59 "Hey, my boyfriend has been with me for 5 years,
18:02 should I wait longer?"
18:05 And usually I would say, "Well how much longer?"
18:07 How much longer do you have in mind? Another 5 years?
18:10 Or 2 years or 2 months?
18:13 But the problem is this... Especially Y-type males,
18:16 they have the capacity to stay with someone
18:18 know that the blueprint, the blueprint they have
18:23 for the perfect person, the person they want
18:25 to take home to mom is not being met.
18:29 They won't necessarily say anything to you,
18:33 the partner in the relationship.
18:35 It's not going forward, but it's not going backward
18:39 either and you feel stuck because you have no idea
18:44 that you have black hair, but he was hoping for a blonde.
18:49 You have no idea.
18:51 This is a problem with Y-types.
18:53 Y- types have to be more aware, I guess, for courteous
18:59 of the person that they're with and more willing
19:02 to step out there and say, "Hey, let me give the choice
19:05 back to you - you could stay with me,
19:08 but I don't see this ending in marriage."
19:11 So that helps with letting them know...
19:16 "Okay, this might not work for me, so I'm going to let you
19:17 know so I won't be wasting your time." Exactly
19:21 It's the polite thing to do, it's the moral thing to do,
19:24 it's the ethical thing go do and surprise, surprise,
19:27 I actually know a couple where I encouraged him to
19:31 do that and he did that and she says _
19:35 "I'll wait until whenever, however long
19:38 it takes you, I'll wait." So honesty!
19:42 How about also, with this whole blueprint in mind...
19:48 Their blueprint is not so much about that person they're with,
19:51 they're like, they see this is the person, but they're like
19:53 things aren't the way I want them to be YET
19:56 for us to take this step forward.
19:58 Sometimes I've seen that as well.
20:01 Okay, in my experience, what I've found is
20:04 that is more often an excuse.
20:08 "I'm not where I want to be in life just yet."
20:11 "I want to be able to take care of you in a special way."
20:15 "I'm hoping to get this job and when I get this job,
20:17 I'll make a six-figure salary
20:19 and then I'll be ready for a family."
20:21 "What if we get a family immediately."
20:23 "What if God gives us a family immediately,
20:25 I won't be able to take care of that family.
20:26 So I would like us to wait a little longer,"
20:30 and variations of that excuse.
20:33 Well can I say this... Like for me,
20:35 it's like one reason is I would love to be in a
20:38 committed relationship, but I'm not totally pressed
20:41 just yet because I know there are some things that I
20:44 need to work on myself, so when I am in this
20:46 relationship, it can be sustained as far as being
20:50 financially supportive, being a priest,
20:54 you know, getting my life right with Christ,
20:56 and also being protective.
20:58 These are some of the things you need as a man to when
21:02 you are in a relationship with a female, you can,
21:05 you know, help keep that together so I wouldn't
21:08 necessarily say that's an excuse for me not being in a
21:10 relationship, but I know these are some things that I
21:12 need to work on while I'm still single.
21:15 You know what is interesting, Miles?
21:17 X- types, when they find the person that they think
21:22 they'd like to spend the rest of their lives with,
21:23 they have a tendency to throw away the blueprint,
21:27 and a tendency to put away the excuses.
21:29 As-a-matter-of-fact, sometimes it is in their best interest
21:31 to wait and those are the ones that go to their parents
21:34 and say, "I love him, we want to get married right now;
21:38 we're not worried about how we're going to make it,
21:39 we love each other."
21:41 Those are the X-types that do that, so you're right.
21:44 No everyone is making an excuse, but the X-type approach
21:49 the timing and the Y-type approach
21:52 is completely different. Okay
21:54 You were going to ask a question...
21:56 I think I forgot it. Laughter
22:00 All right. That's fine!
22:01 Yeah, I was going to add, but that's going to what you were
22:04 saying to Miles - that's why you shouldn't be in a
22:07 relationship until you have certain things in order
22:10 because I believe that when it comes to courtship,
22:13 you shouldn't decide to court unless you are ready
22:17 to be married. Right. No, so... Yeah
22:21 And, you know, we have a spiritual application
22:22 at the end, but I'm not meaning to jump the gun,
22:24 but, you know, the Bible says that a man should build
22:27 his house first, before taking a wife. Right
22:30 And, I am not a contractor so I know the Bible isn't
22:34 talking about what actually physically building the house,
22:36 but it's talking about what you're talking about which is
22:38 making sure that you're ready.
22:40 The career is there and everything is ready
22:42 and you're not asking for someone to come
22:44 and struggle with you.
22:45 Yeah, right - you don't want that because if you do that
22:48 then that can put a situation in the relationship already
22:53 when you're struggling and you're still trying to
22:56 get your spiritual growth going so you kind of want to
22:59 get that established and then
23:03 allow that relationship to blossom.
23:05 Help the marriage be a blessing then. Yeah
23:07 So I guess the bottom line of what we're talking about
23:10 with the blueprint is this...
23:11 A lot of experts feel that you shouldn't go beyond
23:14 2 years with one person if they're promising marriage,
23:18 but can't fulfill it.
23:20 If it's two years, even if they're saying,
23:21 "You know, I'm still not ready, I'm still not ready,"
23:23 then maybe you need to say,
23:25 "Well you need to call me when you are." Right
23:26 I don't think I've done anything for two years.
23:28 Yeah, two years is a long... A long, long time!
23:30 That's a long time, so you should put a limit...
23:32 X- types put a limit on how long this person
23:35 is going to be allowed to drag it on. Okay?
23:40 Let's look up here again... Allows Y-type men to love
23:44 their child while ignoring or rejecting the mother
23:46 of the child - this is so very important.
23:48 I have met several young ladies that have felt
23:52 that if they gave a child to this man, this boyfriend...
23:57 if they gave him a child, "he would love us."
23:59 "This would really bring him around.
24:00 We would get married, I know he wants a
24:03 child, I know he wants a family."
24:04 Yeah, he may have said he wants a family,
24:05 but you need to find out... is his disposition the type
24:09 that when he realizes what he has done,
24:12 he's going to do right by you and actually follow through.
24:16 He said he loves you, but now you're pregnant.
24:19 Is he going to be the one to say, "Hey, you know what...
24:21 I love you, I love God, we made a mistake,
24:23 let's do make this right.
24:26 Our experience again, there's a difference between
24:29 X- type males finding themselves in that position
24:32 and Y-type males finding themselves in that position.
24:34 We're not making any absolute rules - there are a lot of
24:37 wonderful Y-type individuals and there are a lot of
24:40 scoundrels that are X-types, but in looking at
24:45 generalities, it gives you a chance to open your eye,
24:47 if you know the person's personality,
24:49 and it tells you, "Hey, don't be foolish,
24:51 don't do this, this is not going to work even within marriage.
24:55 So does vasopressin have then, I guess depending on the level
25:00 level that different impact on the X versus Y or...
25:03 Well vasopressin is mainly in the males,
25:06 so they have it and it's a good hormone because it does
25:10 the same bonding, but vasopressin also has
25:12 some other side effects.
25:14 Vasopressin is responsible for the protectiveness that
25:16 a guy feels over his female and over his family...
25:19 that's what actually causes that, you know,
25:22 like "how dare you..." Whether X or Y. Yeah
25:24 So males regardless of X or Y.
25:26 Yeah, but more so, of course, the Y-type because Y-types
25:29 also have a lot of dopamine which leads to more aggressive
25:31 behavior and on and on.
25:35 Vasopressin has another side that you need to know about
25:37 quickly before we go into our spiritual application...
25:39 And that side simply is... After they become physically
25:44 intimate with you, vasopressin allows that individual,
25:48 if he's not fully committed to you,
25:50 to walk away, just to walk away.
25:54 In fact, oxytocin is called, nicknamed the "cuddle hormone,"
25:57 and vasopressin is not so cuddly.
26:03 Vasopressin will allow you to do all of things that
26:05 oxytocin will allow you to do, but if the guy isn't
26:07 fully committed to you, fully committed,
26:10 and you have no way of knowing that, vasopressin allows
26:13 him to leave easily while you're still there holding your heart
26:15 in your hand.
26:17 That brings us to a wonderful story in the Bible
26:20 about Amnon and Tamar.
26:21 I don't know if that's so wonderful. Laughter
26:24 Wonderful illustration, but you guys know the story,
26:28 so I'm going to share it very quickly.
26:30 You know Amnon was a son of David and you know he
26:33 forced his sister, but what is interesting is that the Bible
26:36 says at first he loved his sister, in fact, he loved his
26:41 sister so much that he felt he needed to have her
26:43 which by the way is interesting because when somebody
26:46 really loves you and is oxytocin-generated,
26:50 if oxytocin is behind that feeling,
26:52 they do not feel that they have to have you.
26:54 How do I know that? The voles that we talked about.
26:57 The voles that I told you guys about that would
27:01 get together for life. Guess what?
27:02 If you put a male vole in a cage next to a female vole
27:05 and leave them there overnight, and all they could do is
27:07 talk to each other through the wires, they bond for life
27:10 without sex!
27:12 The guy that tells you you have to have sex so that
27:14 he could make up his mind about whether or not you and he
27:17 belong together is lying.
27:20 It is not the truth, don't ever fall for it.
27:23 Tamar was forced and low and behold at the end of it,
27:29 the Bible says that the love that he had for Tamar
27:32 was exceeded by the hatred he felt for her after the fact.
27:38 Do you know what hormone is responsible for that?
27:40 Vasopressin.
27:41 Vasopressin - that is how that works.
27:44 And the saddest part of this story, I think, is the Bible
27:47 never said that he knew that he wasn't in
27:49 love with her, that he tricked her.
27:51 No, he tricked her to get her to that point,
27:54 but he didn't trick her about how he felt.
27:56 The Bible actually says he had feelings for her.
27:59 So I want you to think about that and I will see you
28:01 again next time.


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