Rd 2 Romance

Adaptability and Interactivity

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Participants: Dr. John Jacob (Host), Sean Brereton, Miles Rashad, Bianca Acosta

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00:23 Hello and welcome to "Road to Romance"
00:26 I'm your host Dr. John Jacob
00:28 Today we have with us Miles, Bianca and Sean.
00:32 Sean, you're new to our program. Yes
00:36 Welcome! Thank you.
00:38 I don't know if the others have told you,
00:40 but you are going to have to take a test
00:43 when we get finished, it's a personality test
00:47 to let us know a little bit about yourself. Okay
00:49 But mostly, to let you know what you like
00:52 and what your needs are in a relationship. Okay
00:54 The answers will always be "no." Laughter... Okay
00:58 "No," you have to answer honestly. Okay, sorry.
01:00 ... So we can get your honest responses. No problem.
01:05 Okay, today we are going to talk about adaptability.
01:09 You guys are all single, am I right?
01:10 Ah, yes sir. Okay.
01:12 Such hesitance... laughter Are you all right?
01:15 I am! Are you, well...
01:16 Very much so. You are? Okay. Yes
01:18 All right, this is good.
01:19 So we talk about adaptability today because a lot of singles
01:24 never pay attention to whether or not they are looking
01:27 for someone or finding someone who can make the adjustments
01:30 in a relationship mostly because hormones rule.
01:36 Hormones actually drive the whole dating process.
01:39 Hormones determine whether or not you are going to be
01:42 attracted to someone and then determine how you will
01:46 date them - like pre-engagement, and those very hormones
01:50 cause you to forget to look for certain important details,
01:55 things that might come up in a marriage
01:57 and cause some problems... so adaptability
02:00 is one of them... now what does this mean?
02:02 Adaptability simply means... will you be able to adapt
02:06 to the differences that you will discover in your partner
02:09 after you guys have made that big commitment.
02:12 So the commitment sometimes is marriage,
02:15 but at other times, the commitment is just,
02:18 "Well, you know, let's date or let's be boyfriend
02:20 and girlfriend, let's be exclusive."
02:22 Now if you waited that long to find out whether or not
02:26 this person could make adjustments in the relationship,
02:28 you've waited too long.
02:30 Is there certain things that you can do,
02:31 like in the courting stage or the courting-dating stage
02:34 to see if that person can be adaptable or is there
02:37 certain like questions to ask or certain, I guess, task or
02:42 experiment that you can make so you can see the process of it?
02:47 Well there are several tests, but that would be a little
02:48 awkward.
02:50 Well I mean, you know... to bring it out.
02:53 But I know what you're saying, something that
02:54 you can do naturally. Yeah
02:56 Oh yeah, tons of things.
02:57 You do a lot of things like going out to restaurants.
03:01 Going to eat... now she may not want
03:04 to eat a certain thing
03:06 or she may not like a certain restaurant.
03:08 But the way she goes about communicating that to you
03:11 tells you if she's flexible or not. Okay
03:13 So if you mention it and she just flies off the handle,
03:17 she says, "Who uses this?" Like, "What do you mean
03:19 taking me to a restaurant like this, I don't ever go to a
03:21 restaurant like that."
03:22 She's going to be hungry then. Laughter
03:25 You're going to leave her out, right?
03:26 I mean, you know.
03:27 I know what you're saying, I know what you're saying,
03:29 but I'm saying you can use natural everyday means like that
03:35 to determine whether or not she's adaptable. Okay
03:37 Now, you may need to change a date at some point,
03:41 so you may say, "Well let's go out on Saturday night,"
03:44 and she agrees, 8 o'clock, Saturday night.
03:47 Something comes up and you need to make it 8:30...
03:51 Now how does she react when you say, "Something came up,
03:55 and the time is changed?"
03:56 Is she polite? Is she cordial or, again,
03:59 does she completely lose it?
04:01 Does she get very annoyed? Do you get some sort of an
04:05 irritability in her voice?
04:07 You know, is she sarcastic just because
04:09 you wanted to change the time?
04:10 So these are some things that you want to look for
04:12 before you get serious because once you get
04:15 on the other side of "I do," there's very
04:17 chance of getting those things changed.
04:20 I have a question... You know, during like in the
04:21 beginning phases of, you know, you're meeting somebody,
04:24 and you want to go out with them, you're dating them,
04:26 you put on your best behavior, so even if you're
04:28 not necessarily an adaptable person like, you know,
04:33 normally you generally tend to be a little bit different,
04:38 and say, "Okay, 8:30 is fine," just because you really like
04:40 the person and think of that.
04:42 Well that is true and we actually have a name for that...
04:44 We call that, "functional faking." Uh oh.
04:46 So they're faking because they're not naturally
04:49 that open to change, but they're faking it because
04:53 they're really interested in you and they want this
04:55 to work out, but here's the thing...
04:58 What about the person who won't even fake it?
05:01 What about the person who shows you ahead of time...
05:04 But you still go through...
05:05 And you still go on Miles, you still go on.
05:07 You still date, you still go on a second date and a third date,
05:09 and you've seen all along that this person isn't even
05:11 taking the time to do the, little dance that everyone does
05:16 prior to making a commitment, then you know that you're in
05:19 serious trouble after. Right
05:20 Well I guess it's a good thing that you can see that they're
05:23 being real with themselves and you can see it ahead of time.
05:25 Yes, this is another reason though, why I never encourage
05:28 folks to make a commitment like in 3 months.
05:32 I've heard, well - I have some friends that did that,
05:35 where 3 months in to the relationship they were
05:37 already proposing, well guess what?
05:40 This stage, where you can do the functional faking,
05:43 by the way - it's a hormonal thing, your hormones
05:45 allow you to bring your date representative, as they call it,
05:49 and have this person be very, very convincing.
05:52 That phase lasts about 3 months to 2 years,
05:56 that's how long someone can fake it.
05:58 Now, I don't want you to think about people as
06:01 being malicious with the faking.
06:03 We call it "functional faking," but very often
06:05 they don't realize that they're faking it.
06:06 Everybody realizes that, "Okay, I'm intentionally
06:08 going to deceive Bianca."
06:10 That's not necessarily the intent.
06:12 Sometimes they're just trying to put their best foot forward
06:15 as you said and they won't let you know, "Hey, I don't
06:18 need this or I don't go there, I don't do that,
06:21 I don't like this."
06:22 Most people tend not to bring those things out
06:24 when they're dating. Okay?
06:26 So if it could take about 2 years before they get
06:29 tired of the act and you propose in 3 months,
06:33 you see what kind of a dangerous situation
06:35 you're putting yourself in. Um hm
06:37 Right, because you'll be married maybe 6 months
06:39 after that and you have no idea who you have.
06:43 So, here's the other thing...
06:45 I know you guys want to put your best foot
06:47 forward, but guess what?
06:49 The hormones that are swirling during the dating process,
06:52 the pre-engagement process, the hormones are also
06:55 responsible for change, making change easy.
06:59 So the time that you're partner will find changing
07:02 for you or changing for the relationship to work
07:04 the easiest - is the time that you are least likely
07:08 to bring things up, to bring differences up. Okay
07:11 So you see the differences and you're like, "Oh no,
07:13 I'm not going to bring it up right now,
07:14 I could always do that later."
07:16 Well guess what? Now is the time that
07:17 you should bring it up because the brother will be willing
07:19 to make some changes right now,
07:21 not after that ring is on your finger. Okay
07:23 So that's something to remember.
07:26 Okay, "assimilating," who can tell me what
07:32 assimilating is about?
07:34 Become similar to come like that other thing or person.
07:40 So there's always a risk when you're in a new relationship
07:42 that you might lose yourself.
07:45 Okay, you guys know about XY Theory by now,
07:48 so there are X-types and there are Y-types.
07:50 X- types tend to be the ones that do most of the
07:53 adapting the majority of times.
07:56 There may be some Y-types that do adapting,
07:58 but usually the X-types are the ones who adapt
08:01 more easily, right? Yeah
08:03 You're looking at a Y here.
08:05 I know Bianca is our resident Y. I've never met a Y.
08:08 You never met a girl that's a Y, right? Never.
08:11 Yeah, see - they're pretty and friendly and happy
08:14 and sociable and, you know, it's okay.
08:17 This isn't about giving up on someone because they
08:22 have a different type of personality.
08:23 This is about finding out what their needs are,
08:25 their different needs are so you can make an adjustment.
08:28 So adaptability is all about adjusting, can you adjust?
08:31 And then, as we mentioned, assimilating.
08:34 So assimilating is your attempt to become similar to the person,
08:38 and the way you do that is you find out about their interests,
08:42 and you kind of try to make their interests
08:44 yours if possible.
08:45 Now, you won't be able to like everything that they like.
08:48 Maybe Sean is into rock climbing and you hate the idea of
08:53 going up perpendicular on a rock like that.
08:55 You think it's dangerous and you might even think it's
08:57 silly or foolish.
08:59 So you won't join him with the rock climbing,
09:02 at least you won't be on the rock,
09:03 but you could go with him.
09:04 You could stand there and be
09:06 supportive - you know what I'm saying?
09:07 You could begin to assimilate some of his interests.
09:10 People who choose not to assimilate,
09:12 often find themselves leading parallel lives in marriage.
09:16 The husband is going his way, the wife is going
09:19 her way and they only get together for dinner,
09:23 lunch, a function - if there's a function that they need.
09:28 Other than that, little discussion, little communication
09:32 and very little activities that are shared. Okay?
09:36 And then, there is "accommodating."
09:38 Now there's a difference between accommodating
09:39 and assimilating.
09:41 Accommodating means, "I'm not going to join you in that
09:45 skydiving because I fear for my life,
09:48 but I will accommodate you, I won't give you a hard time
09:52 when you tell me that you need to continue doing this
09:54 because you used to do this before you met me."
09:57 Okay, I don't want to confuse you guys.
09:59 You guys look a little confused, I'm throwing a lot of
10:01 information at you and Sean,
10:04 you look like you have a question.
10:05 Yes, what about over assimilating?
10:08 Well okay, that's a good question.
10:10 You can over assimilate.
10:12 Some people just assimilate which means you take up
10:14 some of the interests of your partner,
10:17 but some people over-assimilate which means that they
10:20 pretty much give up their entire lifestyle.
10:23 They give up their friends, all of their friends.
10:24 They give up their family members almost like
10:27 they disown them and they give up all of their interests
10:29 and took on the interests of the partner,
10:32 but you don't want to do that because you can't
10:33 sustain that all the way into a marriage.
10:36 There's going to come a time when you're going to wake up
10:38 one day and you're going to ask yourself, "Whom am I?"
10:40 Where's Sean? Where did I leave him?
10:42 You know? Well you left him way back then
10:44 when you made that decision to do
10:46 whatever your new partner wanted.
10:48 So be careful not to assimilate, but here's the rub...
10:52 Y- types tend to not do that.
10:56 Bianca, that means that you're saved right? Right? X- types.
11:01 X- types you endanger all the time and the higher
11:03 an X you are, if you're like a high X, moderate X,
11:06 extreme X, then you are at risk for doing that.
11:09 Why? Because you tend to be the adaptor,
11:12 you tend to be the more adaptive one...
11:13 And, you know, there's a thin line between very adaptive
11:17 and completely over-assimilating
11:19 and losing your sense of identity.
11:21 Does that mean we can be easily influenced into doing things?
11:24 Yes, that's a good point, X- types tend to be
11:27 more trusting which means... If someone says to you,
11:30 "I am going to come and pick you up at a certain time,"
11:33 you believe him and when he calls and says, "I had a flat
11:37 tire, I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to make the date,"
11:40 you believe that as well.
11:42 We found that X-types tend to be more gullible,
11:44 and here's the thing... X- types also have more
11:47 oxytocin and when you read the literature on oxytocin,
11:51 it says, "Oxytocin produces trust and a lot of oxytocin
11:56 causes gullibility.
11:58 So that's a good question.
11:59 So you don't want to be too gullible.
12:01 If you know you're an X, you always have to
12:02 ask yourself - "Am I being too easy here, should I be asking
12:06 some other questions, am I being too trusting?"
12:09 And so your personality allows you to know
12:12 how to tweak your dating so that you could be more
12:14 protective of yourself and your heart. Okay
12:17 Does that make sense? Yeah
12:18 Okay, so what else are you going to look out for?
12:20 You going to look out for someone who has low tolerance.
12:24 Tolerance is very, very important. Why?
12:26 Because we are all different, very different from each other
12:30 which means - if you do things differently because you were
12:32 raised in a family where it was done that way,
12:35 and I am intolerant then for the next 20 years.
12:38 I am complaining to you about how you do things,
12:41 trying to get you to adjust what you do so that it
12:44 matches what I do.
12:46 Now someone that has a lot of tolerance,
12:48 they will say to themselves, "So what if Sean makes
12:53 his tea with bags first and then sugar later and then
12:59 the hot water and it seems like it's out of order,
13:01 and we should do it in a different way,
13:02 you say, "Oh forget it, I'm not going to sweat
13:03 the small stuff," because you're tolerant,
13:05 but tolerance is something
13:07 that you could detect before you get too deep into a
13:09 relationship. Okay
13:11 So you guys want somebody that's tolerant, right?
13:13 Correct, is that more of an X or a Y or it just kind of
13:15 depends on your upbringing.
13:17 Yeah, it depends a lot on your upbringing?
13:19 Some people were raised in homes where there wasn't a lot of
13:21 tolerance, you know, parents were very strict...
13:23 we call them authoritarian parents and if that's
13:27 what you're used to, you tend to very often
13:29 become that way - so that's a good question.
13:31 That's more character than personality...
13:34 No, I would say it's more personality than character.
13:37 I mean, it could be... yeah, go ahead...
13:38 No, I was going to say because upbringing would,
13:41 I guess it would determine more character?
13:43 Well, remember upbringing has different elements. Okay
13:45 And part of upbringing is to make sure that you raise
13:48 moral, you know, children, ethical children part of it,
13:53 but it doesn't have to be character,
13:54 it could be personality.
13:56 So Sean, that's a really good question.
13:58 As you can tell, it's a complicated one.
14:01 Your family does contribute greatly to your morality
14:05 and that's very important, but they also contribute
14:09 to your personality who you develop as a person,
14:12 and that is what we're referring to in this segment.
14:16 But there's one other thing I wanted to share with you
14:18 guys and it has to do with "speed."
14:22 What we found is... When someone is interested
14:24 in you and you notice that they're going "too fast,"
14:28 everything is going fast, like they're running out of
14:31 time - like they have to catch up fast, it's almost
14:34 like you're speed-dating, but they're moving things
14:36 along too fast.
14:37 Usually there is a problem and you need to be aware of that.
14:42 And the same rule goes for "too slow."
14:44 They're going too slow, they never have time to see you.
14:48 They never have time to talk and they just are willing
14:52 to drag things out for year, after year, after year.
14:56 It's also a problem, so relationships need
14:59 to be well-paced and if the person that you're
15:01 interested in has a problem with "pace,"
15:03 then you need to reconsider your options.
15:07 Could you talk about it, or like say, "Hey look,
15:10 what's going on, like why are things moving so slow,
15:13 or should you just kind of move on?
15:15 Well you'll want to talk about it, I mean, they may have
15:16 some valid legitimate reasons and you'll want
15:18 to find out t what those are, right?
15:20 So you ask them, but if you're not satisfied with the reasons,
15:23 or after you've dealt with it, it's still a problem,
15:25 you know, month-in, as you go on.
15:28 You might just want to say, "Hey, I'm not real comfortable
15:31 with this, let's just be friends and then you move on.
15:35 How about, I mean, okay so I know there are some rare
15:38 situations and so maybe we shouldn't take those exceptions,
15:45 we should never make those exceptions as a rule, but
15:48 still like, how do you know when those exceptions are
15:51 okay, like as far as speed because I know
15:54 some people where they have been married for
15:56 decades and decades and they knew, according to them,
16:00 that, you know, "This is the person I'm going to marry,
16:03 this is the direction we're going,
16:05 I already know what I want, why wait?"
16:08 And that's how some people are about it...
16:10 Like how do you know when that's okay and when that is
16:15 like a dangerous situation?
16:16 Well remember what we talked about with the
16:17 3 months to 2 years?
16:20 Okay, someone that wants to propose to you in 3 months,
16:23 that's not a good exception.
16:26 Something is wrong, we found that a lot of people
16:28 who have problems with relationships try
16:30 to speed things up so that you don't
16:32 find out that they have problems,
16:35 and that, you don't want to happen. Okay?
16:39 I want to thank you guys for coming on today,
16:42 and I'll see you next time! Thank you sir, thank you.
16:54 Hello and welcome back to "Road to Romance"
16:57 We are joined again by Vania and Jeremiah.
16:59 Welcome! Thanks for having us! Happy to be back!
17:02 So today, I thought we could talk about two aspects
17:05 of relationship - "adaptability" and something we call
17:08 "interactivity" which is how you interact with each other.
17:11 So let's talk about "adapting."
17:15 You guys have been married for how long?
17:17 About 2-1/2 years.
17:18 Two-and-a-half years, so does it feel like
17:20 you're still dating or...
17:21 Very much so. Yes!
17:23 We try to make it a point to still date each other.
17:25 And you look like you are actually. Yes
17:28 This is a secret for marriages: You want to take
17:31 the dating experience way into the marriage.
17:34 Your brain got used to the idea of having a good time,
17:39 having fun... I mean when you guys fell in love
17:41 with each other, your brain got used to the romance
17:44 that was involved and then what happens?
17:46 You get married, the kids come along, there's no more romance,
17:51 and it looks very, very different to the brain.
17:53 And so I don't know if you guys know this,
17:56 but the decline that people talk about after they've
18:00 gotten married, the first 2 years are the roughest,
18:02 and so there's a decline in satisfaction
18:06 how you feel about the marriage.
18:08 It's what they call "marital satisfaction,"
18:11 and that actually starts the day you come back from
18:14 the honeymoon. Exactly
18:16 And the reason is simple...
18:17 You're not having a good time anymore.
18:19 You're not doing the fun things anymore.
18:21 And so, we encourage our couples whenever we ask,
18:24 you know, meeting with our couples, we encourage them to
18:26 keep the fun in the relationship - even if you have
18:28 kids, you know, take them along, but don't stop dating.
18:31 Yeah, be intentional about it. Exactly.
18:34 Plan a date night and I know we all know that we should,
18:37 but so many of us never do it, right?
18:40 So you guys had to adapt a little to each other.
18:43 I understand you're from two different cultures.
18:45 Where are you from, Vania?
18:46 Yes, I'm originally from Curacao.
18:48 Curacao, I know where that is.
18:49 That's Southern Caribbean area, right? Yes
18:52 Close to Venezuela? Yes
18:54 Very close to Venezuela. Yeah? Uh huh
18:56 And what about you, Jeremiah
18:57 My family and I are from Haiti. You're from Haiti?
18:59 Although I grew up in the U.S. and spent all my early
19:02 childhood in Haiti, but my formative years in the U.S.
19:04 So kind of Haitian-American? Haitian-American.
19:07 Okay, so different cultures, right?
19:08 So you guys must have had to do a lot of adjusting
19:11 and adapting - tell me a little bit about that.
19:13 Yeah, I think the fact that we come from a different culture
19:17 plays a role, but also the fact that we come from different
19:21 family dynamics, you know, like I come from a
19:24 bigger family and we are a little bit more, I would say,
19:28 outgoing and louder and... Laughter
19:31 Yeah for me like my family, we're pretty much more
19:35 laid-back, more conservative, more private,
19:38 and so that was definitely something that we had to kind of
19:41 get used to with one another - was how to incorporate
19:44 that into what we were doing because that was totally
19:47 different from what I was exposed to. Yeah
19:48 So did you have to talk about it to come to a
19:50 consensus? So how did you do that?
19:52 Well, I'll be honest, like there were times where
19:54 I felt like, okay, this might be a little bit
19:56 more than I thought I bargained for,
19:58 but at the end of the day, I'm like, she's worth it.
20:01 She's everything I ever wanted.
20:02 For me, I need to just be able to try to understand
20:05 where the struggle is to be more empathetic to what
20:10 she needed and try to make sure that we were able to
20:12 come on the same page.
20:14 Yeah, I think for me, the most important thing is that
20:17 I know that when two people come together -
20:19 you're not the same, you know, like your different.
20:22 So it's about knowing that you're different
20:25 and accepting that and be realistic about it,
20:28 and then discuss about it until like, okay,
20:32 how do we want to approach this? Right
20:35 So I never had the illusion that things are going to be
20:39 exactly the same or perfect.
20:41 It's about being realistic for me and find a solution. Right
20:46 And in a loving way, what I truly believe.
20:49 In XY Theory, learning plays a big role and so someone's
20:55 ability to learn their other partner...
20:58 the other partner's needs, what they are like,
21:00 what their differences are is really paramount,
21:02 is really important to the relationship.
21:05 So have you guys noticed that you've learned a lot more about
21:09 each other in the last 2 years than what you thought
21:12 you knew before marriage?
21:14 Exactly, and I think you kind of hinted on that previously.
21:17 There is only so much that you can learn about someone
21:20 before you actually get into an environment
21:23 where you're with them pretty much the whole time,
21:25 and so for me and her, it was just like an eye-opener
21:28 like wow, you know, I had no idea...
21:30 but, you know, in a good way. Yeah
21:32 So I think the fun for me was knowing that there were still
21:36 things for me to discover and then through that discovery
21:39 we would only grow even more and be able to have
21:41 that much more of a connection if we could overcome those
21:45 things that were, you know, could have been like a
21:47 hole for us, but we were able to find a way to
21:50 understand each other.
21:51 Yeah, like in a way, it only got better...
21:53 like when you can, you know, when you're always
21:57 together, especially because we like to talk a lot,
22:00 we're constantly talking, we slow each other down.
22:03 It's like we're always talking, so in a way, it was like
22:06 really, really awesome to be able to share
22:10 every little thing together by being together the whole time.
22:14 And being two high communicators,
22:16 that is important, I mean it is important for bonding.
22:19 It's important for learning and definitely it's important
22:22 for conflict resolution. Um hm
22:25 I mean, how do you solve a problem that you can't
22:27 talk about? That's true.
22:29 That's the big question. Yeah
22:31 That's the big problem for a lot of couples.
22:32 It's almost always one person that doesn't
22:36 really want to talk about it, but how do you solve it?
22:38 Right, I think one of the things for us is there have been
22:42 times where she has had certain issues that she has brought up
22:45 that, you know, it's been a problem for her and I think my
22:47 job is to be available to listen to her to make sure
22:51 that I'm emotionally available.
22:53 And even though I may not have the full understanding of why
22:56 she may be doing something that I say, "Okay, well why
22:59 are you doing this?" I still have to be understanding
23:01 and I have to be available in supporting that
23:03 need that she has and so that's something that I
23:05 think she has actually helped me with is...
23:08 You don't need to necessarily know why I'm doing it,
23:10 but we don't have to agree. Yeah
23:11 I tell him - you don't need to agree with what I'm saying,
23:14 just, just listen, you know?
23:16 And I think when you truly listen to someone,
23:19 it's like a way of showing respect because everybody
23:23 is different - so you may not agree a lot of times,
23:26 but like, yeah.
23:28 You guys do naturally what a lot of folks have to be
23:32 taught how to do and that's absolutely true.
23:35 Their always trying to change the other person,
23:37 to change their mind, to change their point-of-view.
23:40 Maybe if I explain it a little longer,
23:43 maybe if I raise my voice a little louder,
23:45 she's going to get it and she's going to accept it,
23:48 and that's a fallacy.
23:49 So the fact that you guys are not even trying to do that,
23:52 that puts you miles ahead, that's really good.
23:55 So you kind of stumbled into the section that we call
23:57 "interactivity" which is how we interact with each other,
24:00 how we talk to each other.
24:02 So I'm going to go now to that section and I'm going to
24:05 give you some points and tell me what you think about this.
24:11 So you can either be gentle when you're communicating
24:14 or you can be blunt.
24:16 I have found that a lot of folks that I work with
24:19 are blunt without knowing that they are blunt,
24:23 and, of course, that's a problem.
24:26 Take a look... the 2nd, tolerant or intolerant?
24:32 You can either be tolerant or intolerant and the
24:34 problem with folks who are intolerant is that they
24:36 don't even realize that they're being intolerant. Um hm
24:39 If you have to raise your voice to get your partner
24:42 to realize that you're serious about something
24:44 so that she backs off and lets you have your way,
24:48 that's intolerance. Right
24:50 You know, and it's subtle, but it is intolerance.
24:53 "Sensitive or insensitive."
24:55 Now most of us try to be sensitive, but guess what?
25:01 You don't really know what someone's sensitivities are.
25:04 You don't really know sometimes when
25:06 you're hurting somebody's feelings,
25:07 when you're stepping on their toes,
25:09 you know, and so that's very important.
25:11 "Responsive or reactive."
25:14 So as a couple, you guys could choose to be either responsive
25:17 or you could choose to explode rather than respond calmly,
25:22 and it's a choice that you have to make every single day.
25:25 You could be empathetic or not.
25:27 You could try to put yourself in her shoes,
25:30 try to see if you understand how she feels without
25:33 trying to put in your own version of what you think
25:37 she is experiencing.
25:39 And then the biggest question is...
25:41 How do the interactions make you feel?
25:46 Even for young people who are
25:47 single, I tell them the same thing.
25:48 When they ask me,
25:50 "Dr. Jacob, do you think this person is right for me?"
25:51 Of course, the first thing I'll say is, "You need to take the
25:54 XY Personality Test, you need to know what your personality
25:58 type is so you'll know what you need,
26:00 but beyond that - how does the person that you're dating
26:05 make you feel - at the end of the day,
26:07 how do you feel about yourself?"
26:09 Same thing for you guys... After you have an interaction,
26:12 you could just do a self-check.
26:14 "How do I feel? Do I feel like I was just
26:17 put down? Do I feel like I was insulted?
26:21 Do I feel like he is being insensitive?"
26:24 You have to check yourself to see how he makes you feel.
26:26 It doesn't matter what Jeremiah's intention was.
26:30 What matters is how, what he did, left you feeling,
26:34 and if you're not feeling good about yourself,
26:36 then you need to let him know. Yes
26:38 My goal is to always try to make her feel heard and respected
26:41 because I know that that makes her feel very good about
26:44 the interaction, so that's what I always aim to do. Right
26:47 And I'm very in tune with my feelings,
26:49 so even if I don't want to feel, I feel... so... laughter.
26:54 I understand. And I would tell him,
26:55 so there is no way I wouldn't tell him.
26:58 And there's a spiritual application too...
27:00 Galatians 5:22 says that "We have to be mindful
27:07 to show the fruits of the spirit."
27:08 I mean, the reason why we know that we're connected to
27:11 Christ is that we have the fruits. Yes
27:14 So kindness and gentleness, those are two big fruits,
27:17 two important fruits, but they're so often
27:19 overlooked. Definitely!
27:21 You know whenever I have a couple like you,
27:24 it's occasional - it's an often occasional frequent thing that
27:28 they come to me and I could hardly get a word in edgewise
27:32 because they're screaming at each other - it happens.
27:34 And that's actually one of the things that I always
27:36 pride ourselves on doing is to make sure that we don't let
27:40 the sun set on our anger, you know. Excellent!
27:42 We believe that, we want to resolve it as
27:44 quickly as possible. Yeah
27:45 And just keep in mind, keep in mind that you have a
27:48 natural tone to your voice that might be a little
27:50 rougher than she likes and you need to keep that
27:53 regulated. Um hm
27:55 So again, I want to thank you for sharing as candidly as
27:59 you have and I'll see you next time.


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