Hello, welcome to "Road to Romance" 00:00:25.45\00:00:27.82 I'm your host, Dr. John Jacob 00:00:27.86\00:00:29.79 Today, we are going to examine 00:00:29.82\00:00:31.66 social versus relational personality, 00:00:31.69\00:00:34.40 and explain how it complicates dating and marriage. 00:00:34.43\00:00:38.37 Let's welcome Robert and Tangela. 00:00:38.40\00:00:40.20 Welcome! Hi, welcome! 00:00:40.24\00:00:42.24 So how are you guys adjusting to the news 00:00:42.27\00:00:45.31 from the last program? 00:00:45.34\00:00:47.68 Very well, very well. Yes 00:00:47.71\00:00:49.48 Happy about it? Yes. Very happy. 00:00:49.51\00:00:51.91 And as I said, you guys are one in a million. Um hm 00:00:51.95\00:00:55.32 Well it's really good news, but, you know, 00:00:55.35\00:00:57.09 here starts the real work. 00:00:57.12\00:01:01.26 Relational personality is just one aspect of a relationship 00:01:01.29\00:01:05.63 or one aspect of a marriage. Right 00:01:05.66\00:01:07.73 So today, we will look at some other aspects so that you guys 00:01:07.76\00:01:10.90 can be really prepared. 00:01:10.93\00:01:12.73 If it's possible to make a perfect match even more perfect, 00:01:12.77\00:01:15.74 that's what we're going to try to do here. Oh 00:01:15.77\00:01:18.27 Okay? So Robert, do you remember your 00:01:18.31\00:01:22.24 personality type? 00:01:22.28\00:01:23.61 X borderline, X moderately high. 00:01:23.65\00:01:26.75 And you... The same match, 00:01:26.78\00:01:29.48 X borderline, X moderately high. 00:01:29.52\00:01:32.29 Okay and that's very good, so me tell you... 00:01:32.32\00:01:34.79 Let's recap a little... We said that you have 00:01:34.82\00:01:40.30 two personalities, social which we'll get to 00:01:40.33\00:01:44.13 in a minute and relational. 00:01:44.17\00:01:46.07 But in a relational personality, you have 2 letters, 00:01:46.10\00:01:49.10 that stand for two dimensions; one being communication 00:01:49.14\00:01:52.01 and the other being intimacy. Right? 00:01:52.04\00:01:56.75 So your results suggests that you are borderline 00:01:56.78\00:02:00.78 with communication which means you don't need 00:02:00.82\00:02:03.35 that much communication. 00:02:03.39\00:02:04.72 It also means you won't give that much communication. 00:02:04.75\00:02:07.26 So some folks communicate too much. Right 00:02:07.29\00:02:11.06 And some communicate too little. Um hm 00:02:11.09\00:02:12.79 You guys won't have to worry about that. 00:02:12.83\00:02:14.70 Now what you might be concerned about a little is the fact 00:02:15.20\00:02:18.73 that neither of you are probably going to 00:02:18.77\00:02:23.57 forward or put forth enough conversation sometimes 00:02:23.61\00:02:27.68 to get certain problems resolved. Okay. Right. 00:02:28.84\00:02:31.71 Your personality is the type of personality that 00:02:31.75\00:02:33.52 would prefer to sweep a problem under the carpet, 00:02:33.55\00:02:36.65 than talk it to death. Right. Right. 00:02:36.69\00:02:39.35 Okay? It's a good thing, you guys shouldn't be 00:02:39.39\00:02:42.86 in any heated arguments. Right 00:02:42.89\00:02:44.73 But the flip side of that is... 00:02:44.76\00:02:46.09 How do you solve a problem that you don't talk about? 00:02:46.13\00:02:49.30 So keep that in mind. 00:02:49.33\00:02:51.50 Also the intimacy is pretty high. 00:02:51.53\00:02:54.90 I don't expect that you guys will have a problem with that. 00:02:54.94\00:02:58.01 But just to address Tangela for a little bit... 00:02:58.04\00:03:00.94 So your personality is borderline, 00:03:00.98\00:03:03.55 and I'm talking to you, but I'm really referring to 00:03:03.58\00:03:07.22 Robert. Okay 00:03:07.25\00:03:08.58 So, your borderline personality means that you are 00:03:08.62\00:03:12.22 a female that would prefer a guy who would take charge. 00:03:12.25\00:03:17.63 You would prefer the guy to make some decisions. 00:03:17.66\00:03:21.66 Borderline females usually have a low tolerance for 00:03:21.70\00:03:25.87 males that take an excessively 00:03:25.90\00:03:28.17 long time to get their acts together. 00:03:28.20\00:03:30.81 You are usually attracted to males that have 00:03:30.84\00:03:32.94 a certain amount of testosterone. 00:03:32.97\00:03:36.24 So, in your history, if you check your past, 00:03:36.28\00:03:37.98 you would see in your past, you would have made choices 00:03:38.01\00:03:40.48 for alpha males. 00:03:40.52\00:03:43.15 Today, I would say, you made the right choice. 00:03:43.18\00:03:46.49 Why? Let me show you something about alpha males... 00:03:46.52\00:03:49.62 Alpha males have a lot of high testosterone. 00:03:49.66\00:03:51.83 So they come across as cocky, they come across as confident, 00:03:51.86\00:03:54.83 and, yes, they are "take charge." Yeah 00:03:54.86\00:03:57.13 But, the testosterone also gives them an increase 00:03:57.17\00:04:02.84 in tendencies to be reckless, to be interested in extreme 00:04:02.87\00:04:09.18 sports, to be low on commitment and also to be the kind of 00:04:09.21\00:04:17.05 guys that when they make a decision for fatherhood, 00:04:17.09\00:04:21.32 sometimes you're not very happy with their focus, 00:04:21.36\00:04:24.26 with their priority because sometimes the priority 00:04:24.29\00:04:25.93 is on whatever they're into. 00:04:25.96\00:04:29.06 Whether it be motorbikes or fishing, 00:04:29.10\00:04:31.57 or whatever they're doing. 00:04:31.60\00:04:34.27 So I think this is a good choice, but you guys just 00:04:34.30\00:04:36.54 need to know still what you have to tweak. 00:04:36.57\00:04:39.14 Of course, you'd have to make sure that you 00:04:39.17\00:04:41.68 communicate with her... 00:04:41.74\00:04:43.11 Okay, this is what I'm doing, this is my plan, 00:04:43.14\00:04:44.68 this is my career goal... because borderline women 00:04:44.71\00:04:47.82 tend to very career-driven, career-oriented and they 00:04:47.85\00:04:51.55 want their men to be as well. Right 00:04:51.59\00:04:52.92 Okay? So as far as the personalities go, 00:04:53.46\00:04:55.96 you guys are fine, but here is the thing, 00:04:55.99\00:04:57.33 you guys just got started, every relationship goes through 00:04:57.36\00:05:02.10 certain specific stages, very specific stages and right now 00:05:02.13\00:05:05.90 you guys are in the romance stage. Okay 00:05:05.93\00:05:08.24 I mentioned to you before that you guys have a lot 00:05:08.27\00:05:12.27 of hormones that are making this very easy for you. 00:05:12.31\00:05:15.38 You're not seeing each other's faults because you're 00:05:15.41\00:05:18.45 being blinded. Right? 00:05:18.48\00:05:20.75 You won't stay in this stage forever. 00:05:20.78\00:05:23.25 Before long, you would need to move to the next stage, 00:05:23.28\00:05:25.92 and then the next stage and eventually, 00:05:25.95\00:05:27.46 who knows, maybe within a year, within 2 years, 00:05:27.49\00:05:30.26 it depends on how fast this goes... 00:05:30.29\00:05:31.99 you guys will find yourself in the stage that 00:05:32.03\00:05:34.56 everybody dreads... the power struggle stage. 00:05:34.60\00:05:38.30 In that stage, you each would be vying for who is going to 00:05:38.33\00:05:42.20 control the relationship. 00:05:42.24\00:05:44.01 The reason why I'm telling you this is because at this stage 00:05:44.04\00:05:47.54 many relationships die a premature death. 00:05:47.58\00:05:50.85 So you have to be prepared... What are you going to do 00:05:50.88\00:05:54.02 to prevent that. Right 00:05:54.05\00:05:56.55 And the best way to prepare for it is to talk about it 00:05:56.58\00:05:59.42 ahead of time. 00:05:59.45\00:06:01.12 I have some ideas on how you could divide that need 00:06:01.16\00:06:07.40 to lead which is another segment we have 00:06:07.43\00:06:10.37 for a future program. 00:06:10.40\00:06:11.73 But your you guys right now, I have to say 00:06:11.77\00:06:14.30 if you would share the power or plan to share the power, 00:06:14.34\00:06:19.67 it would be probably a good start. Oh okay. 00:06:19.71\00:06:22.74 Okay? Let's turn to the monitor... 00:06:22.78\00:06:24.85 Okay. Compartmentalization. 00:06:24.88\00:06:29.08 Remember we talked about the relationship 00:06:29.12\00:06:31.19 of personality pieces... so just to go back a little, 00:06:31.22\00:06:35.42 we believe that at the fall of Adam and Eve, 00:06:35.46\00:06:40.53 the breakage began. 00:06:40.56\00:06:42.46 Adam and Eve were whole. 00:06:42.50\00:06:43.93 They were spiritual beings, they were 00:06:43.97\00:06:45.30 physical beings, but after the fall, she and he were broken up, 00:06:45.33\00:06:52.54 sort of segmented. Okay 00:06:52.57\00:06:56.88 So the fall caused breakage and damage to the whole being, 00:06:56.91\00:06:59.41 and new dimensions were formed. Oh 00:06:59.45\00:07:01.78 I mean, think about it, the reason why we 00:07:01.82\00:07:03.35 have to be concerned about financial differences 00:07:03.39\00:07:06.89 is because of where we are today compared to where they were. 00:07:06.92\00:07:10.93 Yes, that's true. Okay? 00:07:10.96\00:07:12.39 Or social, there was no such thing as a division between 00:07:12.43\00:07:15.40 social and relational. Right 00:07:15.43\00:07:17.40 So the relational quotient was broken into two dimensions 00:07:17.43\00:07:21.20 which surfaced every time 00:07:21.24\00:07:23.07 scientists attempted to find a cause for marital distress 00:07:23.71\00:07:27.24 which is interesting. 00:07:27.28\00:07:28.61 Any time any study is done to find why people go their 00:07:28.64\00:07:32.71 separate ways, communication and intimacy always 00:07:32.75\00:07:36.28 surface as primary reasons. 00:07:36.32\00:07:39.22 Let's look at the next slide... 00:07:39.25\00:07:40.59 So here are just six of the compartments, there are others, 00:07:40.62\00:07:44.99 but we've just considered these six. 00:07:45.03\00:07:46.90 On the top, of course, we have Spiritual. 00:07:46.93\00:07:50.07 It's something that you guys would need to 00:07:50.10\00:07:52.10 be concerned about. 00:07:52.13\00:07:53.47 A lot of studies show that spiritual intimacy 00:07:54.47\00:07:56.91 is actually one of the most pivotal pieces in terms of 00:07:56.94\00:08:01.84 having a long-term relationship. 00:08:01.88\00:08:05.31 You've got to be on the same page spiritually 00:08:05.35\00:08:07.32 even if it doesn't seem that way now, 00:08:07.35\00:08:09.48 again because of the hormones that are swirling and telling 00:08:09.52\00:08:12.29 you, "It's okay, you're okay, I'm okay, we're okay." Right 00:08:12.32\00:08:15.56 Well, at some point, you're going to have to pay 00:08:15.59\00:08:18.59 attention to the fact that you guys need to be 00:08:18.63\00:08:20.90 on the same page spiritually, and it's not an easy dimension. 00:08:20.93\00:08:23.57 There are a lot of pieces to it. 00:08:24.43\00:08:26.40 How often are you going to go to church? 00:08:26.43\00:08:28.30 Are you going to raise the kids a certain way? 00:08:29.44\00:08:31.81 Right? Right. 00:08:31.84\00:08:34.21 How strictly will you follow the diet? 00:08:34.24\00:08:37.28 How strictly will you follow the rules? 00:08:37.31\00:08:39.95 How strictly do you want to adhere to the beliefs? 00:08:39.98\00:08:43.39 Do you want a real committed relationship with God 00:08:43.42\00:08:46.76 or do you want something that is more liberal 00:08:46.79\00:08:49.89 as opposed to conservative? 00:08:49.92\00:08:51.49 I mean it's very, very tricky. Yes 00:08:51.53\00:08:53.23 And you were surprised when I told you that atheists 00:08:53.26\00:08:55.40 have the lowest divorce rate worldwide. Yes 00:08:55.43\00:08:59.37 Well one reason for that is... they have what we call, 00:08:59.40\00:09:01.84 "spiritual intimacy." Hmm 00:09:01.87\00:09:04.01 I know, it seems like a misnomer. 00:09:04.04\00:09:06.51 Why would you have an atheist and be talking 00:09:06.54\00:09:08.44 about spiritual intimacy? 00:09:08.48\00:09:09.81 Spiritual intimacy doesn't have anything to do with the fact 00:09:09.84\00:09:12.15 that you go to church. 00:09:12.18\00:09:13.52 What it has to do with is the fact that you could 00:09:13.55\00:09:15.65 be intimate because there's no difference in your spirituality 00:09:15.68\00:09:18.75 that's preventing it. Okay? Yes 00:09:18.79\00:09:21.02 So in that respect, they have none of the things that we 00:09:21.96\00:09:24.39 have to deal with. Right 00:09:24.43\00:09:25.93 So they're good, you know. Yes 00:09:25.96\00:09:27.86 So you pay attention to that 00:09:27.90\00:09:29.23 and you make sure that you're on the same page. 00:09:29.26\00:09:32.30 Physical - That is more important to Y-types. 00:09:32.33\00:09:35.64 Robert - She's not a Y, but she is a borderline X 00:09:35.67\00:09:41.01 which is as close to a Y-type as you could be. 00:09:41.04\00:09:43.41 She will be concerned that you stay fit and healthy. Okay 00:09:43.45\00:09:49.42 Social - Very important, but we'll talk about that 00:09:49.45\00:09:53.46 in a minute. 00:09:53.49\00:09:54.82 Cultural, financial and relational... 00:09:54.86\00:09:57.59 Financial is very important and this shows up as #2 00:09:57.63\00:10:00.83 in most of the studies that we've looked at 00:10:00.86\00:10:04.07 with regard to compatibility. Right 00:10:04.10\00:10:07.37 Now, I'm going to give you guys a bit of homework. Okay 00:10:08.04\00:10:11.81 I want you guys to take a look at expectations. 00:10:11.84\00:10:15.08 Everyone goes into a relationship with different 00:10:15.11\00:10:17.65 expectations... You expect certain things 00:10:17.68\00:10:19.41 from her as a girlfriend and then finally, eventually a wife, 00:10:19.45\00:10:22.85 and she expects different things from you. 00:10:22.88\00:10:25.35 I want you guys to take some time, write it down, 00:10:25.42\00:10:30.29 make a list, don't collaborate, do it separately, 00:10:30.33\00:10:34.43 and we'll see you guys again, right here, 00:10:34.46\00:10:38.60 on "Road to Romance" when you'll share 00:10:38.63\00:10:40.67 that list with us. Okay. Okay? 00:10:40.70\00:10:43.71 Welcome back to "Road to Romance." 00:10:48.64\00:10:50.65 The last time Don and Elaine were on the program, 00:10:50.68\00:10:53.28 we gave them a special assignment. 00:10:53.31\00:10:55.78 Welcome Don and Elaine. Thank you. Thank you 00:10:55.82\00:10:59.05 So you had some challenges to work on. 00:10:59.09\00:11:01.79 How did that go? Elaine? 00:11:01.82\00:11:04.86 Well they were challenges. 00:11:04.89\00:11:07.76 I, for one, was not to say anything to Don 00:11:07.80\00:11:12.77 about moving his things to where they needed 00:11:12.80\00:11:16.20 to be in the house or either to just say something one time 00:11:16.24\00:11:21.18 and then I was not to say anything anymore. 00:11:21.21\00:11:24.38 I was supposed to leave it up to you to say something to him 00:11:24.41\00:11:26.92 if it needed to be said. 00:11:26.95\00:11:28.48 That was a challenge for me. 00:11:28.52\00:11:30.89 But it was getting off of the controlling mode which is 00:11:30.92\00:11:33.89 one of Elaine's more favorite modes usually... 00:11:33.92\00:11:37.53 And so, I did things about the house to help to clean up 00:11:37.56\00:11:41.10 those things that have been upsetting to her, 00:11:41.13\00:11:43.83 putting away newspapers; you know, get this and that 00:11:43.87\00:11:47.44 off the floor and do some straightening 00:11:47.47\00:11:50.24 up around the house. 00:11:50.27\00:11:51.61 And I did that and then I would see if she would 00:11:51.64\00:11:55.98 compliment me on... "Well husband, you did this," 00:11:56.01\00:12:01.48 and it took a couple of days to get to that point, 00:12:01.52\00:12:05.29 but she finally came across. Not bad. 00:12:05.32\00:12:09.49 Let me give the audience a little bit of background... 00:12:09.52\00:12:13.73 What you guys are doing are called "challenges." 00:12:13.76\00:12:18.30 Now as we pointed out at the very beginning, 00:12:18.33\00:12:21.57 we are not doing counseling, and we're not doing therapy. 00:12:21.60\00:12:25.14 You guys are familiar with that process. Yes 00:12:25.17\00:12:27.84 What we're doing is coaching, relationship coaching, 00:12:27.88\00:12:32.28 and what that allows us to do is to go directly 00:12:32.31\00:12:34.52 to the formation of goals. 00:12:34.55\00:12:36.18 You guys can form your own goals and we work together 00:12:36.22\00:12:39.92 to make sure that those goals are accomplished. 00:12:39.95\00:12:42.92 It also allows me to work with you guys separately. 00:12:42.96\00:12:45.69 From the very beginning, I felt the need 00:12:45.73\00:12:47.86 to separate you so that we could make some progress, 00:12:47.90\00:12:52.93 and you guys wouldn't cross talk or escalate into anything. 00:12:52.97\00:12:57.14 A lot of what you were working on, individually, 00:12:57.17\00:13:01.34 really still stemmed from the X Y difference. 00:13:01.38\00:13:04.78 Remember we talked about that? 00:13:04.81\00:13:06.61 So, for instance, Don - you mentioned the word "controlling" 00:13:06.65\00:13:10.29 and I know for you, that sounds like, 00:13:10.32\00:13:12.59 "Well, it's a personal choice." 00:13:12.62\00:13:14.09 Someone is either controlling or they're not controlling. 00:13:14.12\00:13:17.59 Well, what actually happens after all these decades? 00:13:17.63\00:13:20.73 For instance, that you guys have been married... 00:13:20.76\00:13:23.16 If Elaine has a need for conversation, 00:13:23.20\00:13:27.47 for communication and she's not getting it from you, 00:13:27.50\00:13:31.64 what happens is you develop what we call a "loop." 00:13:31.67\00:13:34.74 I think I mentioned that during our coaching sessions. 00:13:34.78\00:13:37.95 It's called a "negative feedback loop," 00:13:37.98\00:13:40.65 And the way it works is, if she asks for something 00:13:40.68\00:13:44.79 or asks to have something done, and doesn't get a response 00:13:44.82\00:13:48.86 from you, then she asks again. Yes 00:13:48.89\00:13:52.53 No response? She asks a little louder, a little more demanding. 00:13:52.56\00:13:58.40 So eventually, it becomes what is called, 00:13:58.43\00:14:01.50 "A demand withdrawal loop." 00:14:01.54\00:14:04.21 She escalates, you withdraw. 00:14:04.24\00:14:07.58 So she escalates some more hoping that the high escalation 00:14:07.61\00:14:10.75 would bring you around but it does not. Um hm 00:14:10.78\00:14:13.92 Has it? Not usually. 00:14:13.95\00:14:16.69 Not usually... And if it does, of course, that will set up 00:14:16.72\00:14:20.69 another pattern that will cause her to continue 00:14:20.72\00:14:23.59 with the escalation. 00:14:23.63\00:14:25.79 So this negative feedback loop, what we were trying to do is 00:14:25.83\00:14:29.53 two things - I was giving her the assignment 00:14:29.56\00:14:33.67 to bring down the vocal interaction which is why 00:14:33.70\00:14:38.54 the last time you had to mode-switch, 00:14:38.57\00:14:41.61 so if you had something to say, something you were angry about, 00:14:41.64\00:14:44.01 you had to write it in a text or you could email it... 00:14:44.05\00:14:48.05 And that had really two effects, #1 the anger that you felt, 00:14:48.08\00:14:51.89 the intensity that you felt wasn't directed toward Don 00:14:51.92\00:14:56.09 immediately and sometimes I felt like maybe you 00:14:56.12\00:14:59.66 didn't even want to bother to go through the trouble of 00:14:59.69\00:15:02.20 finding another mode, so you just bottled it up, 00:15:02.23\00:15:04.77 and you kept it to yourself. 00:15:04.80\00:15:06.13 So mode-switch sort of contained it, 00:15:06.17\00:15:08.80 but didn't really solve the problem. 00:15:08.84\00:15:11.11 So this week, I think what you are saying is 00:15:11.14\00:15:14.11 that you were asked to... 00:15:14.14\00:15:16.01 To ask him one time to do something. Right 00:15:16.04\00:15:21.02 She would ask you one time, and then, on the other hand, 00:15:21.05\00:15:26.69 I asked you to make sure that you did at least one thing 00:15:26.72\00:15:30.13 something visible that she can see and compliment you for. Yes 00:15:30.16\00:15:35.00 The nice thing about coaching is 00:15:35.03\00:15:36.56 you can go directly to the goals. 00:15:36.60\00:15:38.20 We don't have to go back to the last 50 years 00:15:38.23\00:15:42.44 of your past, go back to your childhood. 00:15:42.47\00:15:44.67 We could go straight to what you want. 00:15:44.71\00:15:46.54 If it is that you want to have him clean a certain area 00:15:46.57\00:15:50.51 of the house because you guys are in the process of 00:15:50.55\00:15:52.91 selling it to move, then you make that your goal, 00:15:52.95\00:15:55.48 and he works on that immediately. 00:15:55.52\00:15:57.32 And then we assess and appraise whether or not that was 00:15:57.35\00:16:00.29 an achievable goal for him. 00:16:00.32\00:16:01.72 Should we have shrunk the goal? 00:16:01.76\00:16:04.19 Should we expand the goal? 00:16:04.23\00:16:05.63 Maybe he needed to do two rooms instead of one room. 00:16:05.66\00:16:08.30 So, Don, tell us what exactly did you accomplish 00:16:08.33\00:16:10.97 with that particular goal in terms of 00:16:11.00\00:16:12.33 prioritizing the cleaning. 00:16:12.37\00:16:13.80 How did that work for you? 00:16:13.84\00:16:15.17 It worked well... we have a large island 00:16:15.20\00:16:19.31 countertop which has always been a nice collecting point 00:16:19.34\00:16:23.95 and that has been cleaned up. Good 00:16:23.98\00:16:28.35 One of our bedrooms that we don't use, 00:16:28.38\00:16:31.09 that the children now that they're gone from the home 00:16:31.12\00:16:33.05 are no longer in there, that had been collecting things, 00:16:33.09\00:16:37.43 has been straightened out and cleaned up and I 00:16:37.46\00:16:40.90 still have two more to go, but... 00:16:40.93\00:16:42.86 You made a little progress. 00:16:42.90\00:16:44.30 I made progress, yes. Okay 00:16:44.33\00:16:46.47 Elaine? I see that he is supposed to have been 00:16:46.50\00:16:51.57 getting into files and is throwing away things. Okay 00:16:51.61\00:16:58.11 And that has come out of those rooms that have had things 00:16:58.15\00:17:01.68 stacked in them for years. Very good 00:17:01.72\00:17:04.12 And so, I'm glad to see that and because I am seeing 00:17:04.15\00:17:09.42 some progress, my anxiety level is lessened. Excellent. 00:17:09.46\00:17:15.63 Excellent, that's exactly what we want... 00:17:15.66\00:17:19.40 And so every week, we give you two new goals 00:17:19.43\00:17:23.17 or two new challenges and the idea is that you 00:17:23.20\00:17:27.64 don't share these challenges with each other. 00:17:27.68\00:17:29.98 We test the effectiveness of these challenges by whether 00:17:30.01\00:17:33.28 or not your partner was able to see a difference, 00:17:33.31\00:17:36.02 and sometimes you were able to see the difference 00:17:36.05\00:17:39.19 even without Don saying anything and that's exactly how 00:17:39.22\00:17:42.39 we would like this to work. 00:17:42.42\00:17:43.86 So, of course, next week, we will give you two 00:17:43.89\00:17:46.36 more challenges, individually, no collaboration, 00:17:46.39\00:17:50.67 don't share, don't say anything beyond what you 00:17:50.70\00:17:54.90 have been asked to communicate. 00:17:54.94\00:17:57.14 I know some of this is difficult, 00:17:57.17\00:17:58.77 just keep in mind we have to be patient. 00:17:58.81\00:18:00.68 It has been 42 years of building to this point. Yes 00:18:00.71\00:18:05.85 And it's not going to be done in 42 days... 00:18:05.88\00:18:10.49 It's going to take a little time. 00:18:10.52\00:18:12.15 So, I want to encourage you to stick with it, 00:18:12.19\00:18:15.99 stick with the coaching, stick with the program, 00:18:16.02\00:18:18.76 and I'm pretty sure that, on the other side, 00:18:18.79\00:18:21.73 we will see some progress. 00:18:21.76\00:18:23.90 I just wanted to share with the audience some information 00:18:23.93\00:18:27.30 about you guys on this cleaning project... 00:18:27.34\00:18:30.14 You're cleaning because you're 00:18:30.17\00:18:31.51 moving to a new home. Am I right? Yes 00:18:31.54\00:18:35.01 That's the immediate goal. 00:18:35.04\00:18:37.61 And by cleaning, I mean tidying up, sorting through, 00:18:37.65\00:18:40.02 going through papers and all of that. Yes 00:18:40.05\00:18:42.45 Okay, well one thing a lot of couples forget to do 00:18:42.48\00:18:46.12 is to look for some practical solutions. 00:18:46.15\00:18:48.72 Sometimes we get so caught up in having someone do 00:18:48.76\00:18:50.79 exactly what we want, that we forget the practical solutions. 00:18:50.83\00:18:54.26 When you are back on "Road to Romance," 00:18:54.30\00:18:57.03 We will share exactly how you guys solved this problem 00:18:57.07\00:19:00.77 with the cleanup and the move to the new place. 00:19:00.80\00:19:04.31 Is that okay? Yes 00:19:04.34\00:19:06.57 Welcome back to "Road to Romance" 00:19:16.25\00:19:18.22 Today we have Kerissa with us. 00:19:18.25\00:19:20.52 You will remember the last time Kerissa joined us, 00:19:20.56\00:19:23.49 she was curious to know about a secret admirer of hers, 00:19:23.76\00:19:27.73 whether or not he was a perfect match. 00:19:27.76\00:19:30.60 Well, during that time, Kerissa took a test, 00:19:30.63\00:19:34.27 a "reluctant partner" test that gave us some results. 00:19:34.30\00:19:38.07 We'll learn about those results today. 00:19:38.11\00:19:40.34 Kerissa, welcome! Thank you for having me back. 00:19:40.38\00:19:43.58 So you have some exciting news. 00:19:43.61\00:19:45.45 You look like you have something you really want to share there. 00:19:45.48\00:19:48.15 Well I honestly like the fact that there was actually 00:19:48.18\00:19:52.09 a "reluctant partner" test. 00:19:52.12\00:19:53.46 I may not be with this person, but I'm happy that 00:19:53.49\00:19:58.76 because I've known the person for a couple of years, 00:19:58.79\00:20:01.70 that I can actually take a test because I know him pretty well. 00:20:01.73\00:20:06.67 Um, yeah, I like that. 00:20:06.70\00:20:08.94 And that's exactly what the test was designed to do. 00:20:08.97\00:20:11.84 You have no idea how many girlfriends I meet, 00:20:11.87\00:20:16.24 how many wives I meet, who have husbands 00:20:16.28\00:20:19.28 and significant others, partners that have no intention 00:20:19.31\00:20:22.72 no desire whatsoever to take a test that could tell their 00:20:22.75\00:20:25.79 partner who they really are... 00:20:25.82\00:20:27.29 So we had to create a version of the test that was 00:20:27.32\00:20:30.23 accurate that a wife, a girlfriend, a friend can take, 00:20:30.26\00:20:35.40 on behalf of their interest, their partner, that could tell 00:20:35.43\00:20:40.20 them whether or not they were a match and whether or not 00:20:40.24\00:20:44.11 they had some things to work on to make their relationship 00:20:44.14\00:20:47.98 stronger. 00:20:48.04\00:20:50.25 This is the reason why you were able to do this with your friend 00:20:50.28\00:20:52.51 and I'm really anxious to see the results as are our viewers. 00:20:52.55\00:20:57.25 Let's take a look at the monitor... 00:20:57.29\00:20:58.69 Wow... So, your secret admirer is an XX like you are. 00:20:58.72\00:21:06.23 You are also an XX, but there's a slight difference 00:21:06.26\00:21:09.46 that we need to talk about. 00:21:09.50\00:21:11.90 The first X is communication, we've said that 00:21:11.93\00:21:14.94 several times on the program. 00:21:14.97\00:21:17.41 He is a moderate X in communication, 00:21:17.44\00:21:22.61 and you are moderately high. 00:21:22.64\00:21:25.41 So you are at least one level above him in terms 00:21:25.45\00:21:28.58 of communication and that won't create much of a problem. 00:21:28.62\00:21:31.59 I think relationships can handle a difference of one level. 00:21:31.62\00:21:35.09 Of course, it's nice to be perfect like other guests 00:21:35.12\00:21:39.66 that we've had on our program, but, if not, 00:21:39.69\00:21:42.33 the next best thing is to be one level away. 00:21:42.36\00:21:45.27 In fact, some people even prefer that. 00:21:45.30\00:21:47.24 I know some women that I know actually 00:21:47.27\00:21:50.87 bought new houses with their partners and they told me 00:21:50.91\00:21:55.61 that they actually wanted a 2- story house because 00:21:55.64\00:21:58.45 he yapped too much and they wanted to be 00:21:58.48\00:22:01.42 upstairs while he was downstairs. 00:22:01.45\00:22:02.78 Some people actually prefer a little difference. 00:22:02.82\00:22:05.09 But let's look at your intimacy score... look at that. 00:22:05.12\00:22:08.82 You are moderately high, again with intimacy, 00:22:08.86\00:22:12.19 and he is X borderline. 00:22:12.23\00:22:14.96 That means he is as close to being a Y-type as possible. 00:22:15.00\00:22:19.33 That kind of a profile usually suggests that you guys 00:22:19.37\00:22:22.60 would have to work really, really hard on intimacy. 00:22:22.64\00:22:26.01 If you got together, he is just a secret admirer 00:22:26.04\00:22:28.11 at this stage, but if you guys got together, at some point 00:22:28.14\00:22:31.68 you'd be concerned about the 00:22:31.71\00:22:33.21 fact that you were not getting enough affection. 00:22:33.25\00:22:35.52 You were not sure that you were feeling loved 00:22:35.55\00:22:37.49 in the relationship, you weren't getting 00:22:37.52\00:22:38.85 enough attention and it's likely to cause problems, 00:22:38.89\00:22:43.63 significant problems even, down the road. 00:22:43.66\00:22:46.86 Now how do you feel about that? 00:22:46.90\00:22:50.93 Well I like the fact that we are both Xs. 00:22:50.97\00:22:54.37 I think that's one good thing. 00:22:54.40\00:22:57.07 The fact that our communication level is pretty close, 00:22:57.11\00:23:01.64 I think that's really good. Yeah 00:23:01.68\00:23:03.31 The intimacy level is farther apart than I 00:23:03.35\00:23:09.95 would probably like, but I think it's workable 00:23:09.98\00:23:13.76 if I chose to actually go down that road with that person. 00:23:13.79\00:23:18.49 But I know that even in a match XX relationship where there are 00:23:18.53\00:23:24.07 different levels, I feel that work would have to be done 00:23:24.10\00:23:29.87 regardless and I don't know, I think it can work 00:23:29.90\00:23:33.34 if I'm up for it. Okay 00:23:33.38\00:23:35.61 So this secret admirer is just a friend? Right 00:23:35.64\00:23:38.05 He's just a friend. Okay there are thousands of 00:23:38.08\00:23:39.41 women viewing right now that have a friend 00:23:39.45\00:23:45.15 that they would like to know, "Well, is this going to be a 00:23:45.19\00:23:48.06 match," but let me point something out. 00:23:48.09\00:23:50.43 What I did in my research, I found that we had two 00:23:50.46\00:23:53.29 personalities - the social personality, 00:23:53.33\00:23:56.20 and the relational personality. 00:23:56.23\00:23:58.50 Now the social personality is more like what we call a 00:23:58.53\00:24:00.87 "persona" which is a mask. 00:24:00.90\00:24:05.01 So, when you're dating, unfortunately, 00:24:05.04\00:24:08.54 you date with a social personality. 00:24:08.58\00:24:11.05 You've heard people talk about a "dating representative," 00:24:11.08\00:24:13.45 have you heard that term before? Not really. 00:24:13.48\00:24:16.62 Probably a little generation ahead of yours perhaps... Okay 00:24:16.65\00:24:20.56 But, you know, middle age folk talk about a dating 00:24:20.59\00:24:23.39 representative which means... the guy that shows up 00:24:23.43\00:24:26.06 is nothing like the guy that they have or that they get 00:24:26.09\00:24:30.40 when they get inside of the relationship. 00:24:30.43\00:24:32.37 Social personality is the same personality your parents 00:24:32.40\00:24:35.47 would take with them to church. 00:24:35.50\00:24:36.91 The same personality you would take with you to your job 00:24:36.94\00:24:39.94 or to school - you said you went to Andrew's University, 00:24:39.97\00:24:42.64 that's a personality that you use to navigate 00:24:42.68\00:24:47.48 anything that is outside of a relationship. 00:24:47.52\00:24:50.69 Let's look at another slide... 00:24:50.72\00:24:52.72 So we have two personalities and there's a split. 00:24:52.75\00:24:55.16 Each of us has two social and relational to match our society. 00:24:55.19\00:24:59.39 The social personality job is to present you in the best 00:24:59.43\00:25:03.70 light, whether it be on your job, at work or dating, 00:25:03.73\00:25:08.00 or in church or at the store, wherever it is, 00:25:08.04\00:25:11.97 even if it means pretending that you are generous, kind, 00:25:12.01\00:25:15.34 interested, understanding, affectionate - things that 00:25:15.38\00:25:18.05 you might not be - is the reason why thousands of women 00:25:18.08\00:25:21.18 make a mistake about who they date because 00:25:21.22\00:25:23.82 everyone dates in the social personality, 00:25:23.85\00:25:26.96 not the relationship personality. 00:25:26.99\00:25:28.69 So the test actually allows a woman to jump over 00:25:28.72\00:25:32.63 that social pretense and find out exactly who the guy is. 00:25:32.66\00:25:39.33 Well, we have a surprise for you today... 00:25:39.37\00:25:42.80 Okay, what is it about? We actually have your 00:25:42.84\00:25:44.84 secret admirer on the phone. Okay... 00:25:44.87\00:25:48.21 Would you like to talk to him? 00:25:48.24\00:25:50.48 Umm, are you sure he's on the phone? 00:25:50.51\00:25:53.25 I'm sure he's on the phone. Okay... 00:25:53.28\00:25:55.98 Kerissa - I'm just kidding, but we would seriously 00:25:56.02\00:25:58.89 like you to contact your friend and have him take the test 00:25:58.92\00:26:01.52 and share the results with us on the "Road to Romance." 00:26:01.56\00:26:04.09 Okay, I guess I'll try to do that. 00:26:04.13\00:26:07.63 So what does the Bible say about the social personality 00:26:14.14\00:26:17.84 and how it differs from the relational personality, 00:26:17.87\00:26:20.21 and more importantly, how does this affect us 00:26:20.24\00:26:22.74 in the church? 00:26:22.78\00:26:24.41 About 2 years ago, my dad passed away and my mom 00:26:24.45\00:26:27.72 grieved for a few weeks and then admitted to me and 00:26:27.75\00:26:31.42 to my brother that she was not happy in the marriage. 00:26:31.45\00:26:34.59 Now we already knew that, but we were a little surprised 00:26:34.62\00:26:37.69 when she said in 52 years of marriage, 00:26:37.73\00:26:39.63 she was only happy one of those years. 00:26:39.66\00:26:41.86 The problem was that no one in church was 00:26:41.90\00:26:44.37 allowed to know of their troubled marriage. 00:26:44.40\00:26:46.94 They were officers in the church. 00:26:46.97\00:26:48.34 My dad was a first elder, my mom was the 00:26:48.37\00:26:50.67 head superintendent. 00:26:50.71\00:26:52.04 They had a lot of young people that were looking up to them 00:26:52.07\00:26:54.61 as a role model for marriage. 00:26:54.64\00:26:56.54 So they decided, instead to suffer silently. 00:26:56.58\00:26:59.31 They couldn't tell the pastor. 00:26:59.35\00:27:00.88 They couldn't confide in a sister, 00:27:00.92\00:27:02.25 and they surely wouldn't seek professional help. 00:27:02.28\00:27:06.02 Well, I have to tell you... 00:27:06.05\00:27:07.66 We continued like that for a few decades, 00:27:07.69\00:27:11.13 and it was pretty damaging or disturbing to my brother and I. 00:27:11.16\00:27:15.80 It's not okay for a parent to save their best behavior 00:27:15.83\00:27:20.80 for outsiders or for folks at church. 00:27:20.84\00:27:23.71 It's not okay to save the jokes for people that you don't know 00:27:23.74\00:27:27.38 while you neglect your family and give them instead a frown. 00:27:27.41\00:27:31.15 It's not okay to get so lost in your work for God 00:27:31.18\00:27:34.32 that you forget the work you need to do at home 00:27:34.35\00:27:37.35 with your family. 00:27:37.39\00:27:38.72 Thanks for joining us today. 00:27:38.75\00:27:40.09 Tune in next time to find out how genetics 00:27:40.12\00:27:43.73 and hormones play a vital role 00:27:43.76\00:27:46.09 in the law of attraction and bonding. 00:27:46.13\00:27:48.96