Hello and welcome to "The Road to Romance" 00:00:25.02\00:00:27.62 I'm your host, Dr. John Jacob. 00:00:27.66\00:00:29.69 Did you know that science has something 00:00:29.72\00:00:31.23 to say about relationships? 00:00:31.26\00:00:32.76 On this program, we'll share the latest research 00:00:32.79\00:00:35.33 on relationships and marriage. 00:00:35.36\00:00:37.30 You're going to meet real people dealing with real issues. 00:00:37.33\00:00:40.94 Five years ago, I developed XY Theory, 00:00:40.97\00:00:43.64 and time and time again, I've successfully applied it 00:00:43.67\00:00:46.78 to my work with singles and couples. 00:00:46.81\00:00:49.18 On the program, you are going to benefit from my years of 00:00:49.21\00:00:52.51 research and learn how to successfully navigate 00:00:52.55\00:00:56.02 your road to romance. 00:00:56.05\00:00:57.79 Let me introduce you to my first guest, Kerissa. 00:00:57.82\00:01:00.42 Kerissa, nice to have you on the program. 00:01:00.46\00:01:03.49 Tell me a little bit about yourself. 00:01:03.53\00:01:05.26 Well, I'm 22 years old, I'm from New York, 00:01:05.29\00:01:08.33 and I just graduated with my Bachelor's in communication. 00:01:08.36\00:01:11.83 And, I came on the show just to find out more about myself 00:01:11.90\00:01:15.34 as well as to figure out a suitable match for myself. 00:01:15.64\00:01:21.01 Okay, I believe you have come to the right place. 00:01:21.04\00:01:23.55 Let me tell you a little bit about XY Theory, 00:01:23.58\00:01:25.81 but before I do, let me share something with you. 00:01:25.85\00:01:29.82 In the last 10 years, science has taken off 00:01:29.85\00:01:33.42 on relationships, mostly neuroscience, 00:01:33.46\00:01:38.99 not psychology, not just strictly biology, 00:01:39.03\00:01:41.60 but the science of the mind. 00:01:41.63\00:01:44.07 Right now, a scientist is able to tell you whether or not 00:01:44.10\00:01:48.37 you would be compatible with someone that you've never met. 00:01:48.40\00:01:51.67 In fact, the science has progressed to such a point, 00:01:51.71\00:01:54.58 that your parents, your parents, could have known, 00:01:54.61\00:01:58.38 as a baby, whether you would have been 00:01:58.41\00:02:00.22 compatible with the boy-next-door. 00:02:00.25\00:02:01.95 Does that sound like science fiction? Um hm 00:02:01.98\00:02:04.55 That is the extent to which science has made 00:02:04.59\00:02:07.92 considerable progress in the last 10 years. 00:02:07.96\00:02:10.99 My own research on XY theory has focused on finding out 00:02:11.03\00:02:16.23 how two people could be compatible or whether 00:02:16.26\00:02:20.24 those two people would be compatible if they 00:02:20.27\00:02:22.24 so chose to be together. 00:02:22.27\00:02:23.61 Now, we have a lot of scientists out there who can tell you, 00:02:23.64\00:02:26.78 in fact with a great degree of accuracy, 00:02:26.81\00:02:30.15 whether or not two people will get a divorce imminently, 00:02:30.18\00:02:33.62 but I was not interested in that. 00:02:33.65\00:02:35.32 My interest was... how do I get two people 00:02:35.35\00:02:38.32 to save themselves years of heartache and years of pain 00:02:38.35\00:02:44.39 by finding out ahead of time, 00:02:44.43\00:02:45.99 that their personalities were not a match. 00:02:46.03\00:02:48.50 Have you ever been in a relationship where you 00:02:48.53\00:02:51.07 felt like there was some sort of a mismatch, a disconnect? 00:02:51.10\00:02:55.57 Yes, I definitely have. 00:02:55.60\00:02:57.01 You have? Yes... 00:02:57.04\00:02:58.51 And Kerissa, before we came on the set, 00:02:58.54\00:03:00.84 you mentioned that you had not been in a serious relationship 00:03:00.88\00:03:05.21 for several years, tell me about that. 00:03:05.25\00:03:08.32 Well, as I was growing up, I had relationships 00:03:08.35\00:03:15.66 but people tend to not consider those relationships 00:03:15.69\00:03:19.43 while you're young as very serious. 00:03:19.46\00:03:21.90 But, as I grew up, I started to take relationships 00:03:21.93\00:03:25.83 very seriously and I thought that I should take time 00:03:25.87\00:03:31.44 to figure out who I wanted to date and why I was dating them. 00:03:31.47\00:03:36.58 But, oftentimes I'd like to try to have a deeper 00:03:36.61\00:03:42.75 friendship first, so that caused me not 00:03:42.78\00:03:46.29 being able to choose a relationship at this age. 00:03:46.32\00:03:51.96 And I understand you just graduated from college, 00:03:51.99\00:03:55.03 how long ago was that? 00:03:55.06\00:03:56.40 That was last weekend. 00:03:56.43\00:03:57.77 That was last weekend! Last weekend. 00:03:57.80\00:03:59.87 So you have some time ahead, don't you? 00:03:59.90\00:04:01.70 You have some time, you just got out one week ago? Yes 00:04:01.74\00:04:04.54 Okay, well here's the thing... 00:04:04.57\00:04:07.84 Personality, your personality actually chooses 00:04:07.88\00:04:12.95 who you date next. 00:04:12.98\00:04:14.72 I know you thought that you were making the choice, 00:04:14.75\00:04:17.22 but all of the signs are showing that your personality, 00:04:17.25\00:04:19.72 your hormones, your genes even match up 00:04:19.75\00:04:24.39 with someone else's and they make the choice for you 00:04:24.43\00:04:27.70 at a subconscious level. 00:04:27.73\00:04:29.06 So sometimes when you think that you're not 00:04:29.10\00:04:31.23 dating right now, for one reason or the other, 00:04:31.27\00:04:33.94 it isn't really your sole decision... 00:04:33.97\00:04:38.04 But understanding how all of these things interact 00:04:38.07\00:04:41.14 to make decisions for you is real critical. 00:04:41.18\00:04:44.51 So, would you like to meet someone? 00:04:44.55\00:04:48.28 I mean, what is the goal in that area? 00:04:48.32\00:04:51.35 Well now that I've graduated from college, 00:04:51.39\00:04:53.82 a lot of people are asking me if I'm looking for a 00:04:53.86\00:04:56.79 serious relationship, and I feel that I'm at the age 00:04:56.83\00:04:59.59 where I am looking for a serious relationship, 00:04:59.63\00:05:02.00 but I'm not really in a rush, but I'm willing to 00:05:02.03\00:05:05.33 find out more about the XY Theory 00:05:05.37\00:05:07.70 because I think it will probably help me choose better mates. 00:05:07.74\00:05:12.27 And I actually think it will. 00:05:12.31\00:05:14.14 Let's go to the slide, I want to show you 00:05:14.18\00:05:16.81 how the XY Theory really works. Okay 00:05:16.85\00:05:19.21 So you have four relationship types and they are what I call 00:05:19.25\00:05:25.82 2- dimensions; there is communication 00:05:25.85\00:05:27.79 and there is intimacy. 00:05:27.82\00:05:30.39 Every single time scientists researched the pieces 00:05:30.43\00:05:35.13 that they wanted to apply to compatibility. 00:05:35.16\00:05:37.80 When they were trying to find out what makes 00:05:37.83\00:05:39.47 two people the greatest match in the world, 00:05:39.50\00:05:41.77 and two others - just the worst couple... 00:05:41.80\00:05:45.37 And when they did that, every single time, 00:05:45.41\00:05:48.28 they came up with those two pieces, 00:05:48.31\00:05:50.11 communication and intimacy. 00:05:50.15\00:05:51.81 So I created a scale that could measure your communication 00:05:51.85\00:05:56.79 and your intimacy, but here's the catch... 00:05:56.82\00:05:58.45 Now we've known for decades that those two pieces 00:05:58.49\00:06:02.42 when put in a relationship, and you can ask any 00:06:02.46\00:06:04.99 psychologist, any therapist, and they will tell you, 00:06:05.03\00:06:07.16 "Of course, you must have good communication 00:06:07.20\00:06:08.60 and you must have good intimacy," 00:06:08.63\00:06:09.96 but what I discovered in 5 years of research is 00:06:10.00\00:06:13.00 it isn't the style of communication, it's the amount. 00:06:13.03\00:06:17.67 This is the piece that has been missing. 00:06:17.71\00:06:20.48 How much communication you need is what determines 00:06:20.51\00:06:24.48 whether or not you will feel satisfied in the relationship. 00:06:24.51\00:06:27.32 If you find yourself with someone that is giving you 00:06:27.35\00:06:29.62 the amount of communication that you actually need, 00:06:29.65\00:06:31.85 you will feel more satisfied in that relationship, 00:06:31.89\00:06:34.89 and the same applies to intimacy. 00:06:34.92\00:06:36.79 Moreover, we've also discovered that it's connected 00:06:36.83\00:06:39.53 to your hormones. 00:06:39.56\00:06:40.90 So when you're in a relationship where you don't have to beg 00:06:40.93\00:06:43.97 someone - for instance, to ask you how your day was, 00:06:44.00\00:06:47.30 or you don't have to beg someone to reply to a text, 00:06:47.34\00:06:50.91 or beg them to have a decent conversation on the phone 00:06:50.94\00:06:54.21 with you that lasts more than 5 minutes, 00:06:54.24\00:06:56.31 when you don't have to beg someone for those needs, 00:06:56.34\00:06:59.31 then you have a flow of a specific hormone in your body, 00:06:59.35\00:07:03.65 it's called "oxytocin," and oxytocin has the effect 00:07:03.69\00:07:06.59 of bonding you to that special someone. 00:07:06.62\00:07:10.09 Now on the other hand, if you don't have 00:07:10.13\00:07:12.06 those needs met, what you have is a build up 00:07:12.09\00:07:14.96 of resentment and there is distance 00:07:15.00\00:07:17.37 between you and the individual. 00:07:17.40\00:07:19.43 Now I don't know if you know this... 00:07:19.47\00:07:20.80 Do you know what the percentage 00:07:20.84\00:07:22.17 of failure is for singles like yourself? 00:07:22.30\00:07:25.94 If you decided to find a guy and start dating, 00:07:25.97\00:07:28.68 what do you think the success rate is or the failure rate? 00:07:28.71\00:07:31.11 What do you think it is? I am not sure... 00:07:31.15\00:07:34.05 It is over 90%, over 90% of young ladies 00:07:34.08\00:07:38.02 like yourself who choose a guy to date will not 00:07:38.05\00:07:42.29 make it to the altar with that particular guy. 00:07:42.32\00:07:45.06 Now that's pretty high. 00:07:45.09\00:07:46.63 The divorce rate is 50%, but yours is 90% 00:07:46.66\00:07:48.73 That's kind of scary, isn't it? Very scary... 00:07:48.76\00:07:51.03 So I had to come up with and develop a theory and a test 00:07:51.07\00:07:55.77 that could take the guess work out of finding someone 00:07:55.80\00:07:59.07 that you can be perfectly matched with. 00:07:59.11\00:08:00.91 It's not a myth, you can find your perfect match, 00:08:00.94\00:08:04.25 but you're not going to find it by accident. 00:08:04.28\00:08:06.95 By accident, you have a 1 in 4 chance of 00:08:06.98\00:08:09.72 choosing the right person. 00:08:09.75\00:08:11.09 You might as well go to Vegas 00:08:11.12\00:08:13.29 with those kind of horrible odds. 00:08:13.32\00:08:14.99 So let's look at this and this is what we're talking about... 00:08:15.02\00:08:18.26 You have four personality types, and it's very simple. 00:08:18.29\00:08:21.70 "X" here means high. 00:08:21.73\00:08:25.03 So whenever you see "X," it means high. 00:08:25.07\00:08:26.40 A lot of people ask me, "Do you mean the 00:08:26.43\00:08:27.77 X chromosome?" No I don't. 00:08:27.80\00:08:29.14 In fact, there are a lot of guys who are X types, 00:08:29.17\00:08:31.24 and there are a lot of women who are Y types. 00:08:31.27\00:08:33.98 Interesting. 00:08:34.01\00:08:35.34 In the book and I am going to ask you to read this book, 00:08:35.38\00:08:39.41 but in one of the chapters, there is a chapter entitled, 00:08:39.45\00:08:44.22 "The Y Type Woman," and the reason why I wrote 00:08:44.25\00:08:47.26 that is simple... As I studied this, I realized 00:08:47.29\00:08:51.86 that there were a lot of women who shared characteristics 00:08:51.89\00:08:54.53 that we thought were men characteristics, 00:08:54.56\00:08:56.56 and there were a lot of men who shared characteristics 00:08:56.60\00:08:59.70 that we thought were the female characteristics... 00:08:59.73\00:09:01.64 So I had to create a chapter, I had to write a chapter 00:09:01.67\00:09:04.64 just for those women because they were so different 00:09:04.67\00:09:06.74 from X type women. 00:09:06.78\00:09:08.98 So "X" means high, and "Y" means low. 00:09:09.01\00:09:12.18 The first X is always communication. 00:09:12.21\00:09:14.35 So let's look on the first line. 00:09:14.38\00:09:17.09 XX means, let's suppose you tested at XX. 00:09:17.12\00:09:20.36 It would mean that you were a high communicator, 00:09:20.39\00:09:23.46 and you also were an emotional type of person. 00:09:23.49\00:09:27.50 You needed a high level of intimacy, right? Um hm 00:09:27.53\00:09:31.77 Or you have a personality type XY. 00:09:31.80\00:09:34.64 In that case, you would be a high communicator, 00:09:34.67\00:09:37.67 and you would be what we call an unemotional Y, 00:09:37.71\00:09:40.44 meaning that you didn't need much touchy - feely kind of 00:09:40.48\00:09:44.01 romantic gestures to know that your partner loved you. 00:09:44.05\00:09:48.52 And the third one was YY, usually Ys are the males, 00:09:48.55\00:09:53.79 usually, but there are some females as well. 00:09:53.82\00:09:56.83 And then the last is YX. 00:09:56.86\00:09:59.83 The Y in YX indicates someone who has a low need 00:09:59.86\00:10:05.63 for communication and as a result, 00:10:05.67\00:10:08.00 has a lot of partners that complained that they did not get 00:10:08.04\00:10:12.67 enough communication from that individual. 00:10:12.71\00:10:14.88 The X type in YX responds to a high need for intimacy, 00:10:14.91\00:10:21.78 and also gives a lot of intimacy affection. 00:10:21.82\00:10:27.16 Before you go out there and try to find someone, Kerissa, 00:10:27.19\00:10:32.13 I would like you to take the personality test. 00:10:32.16\00:10:35.43 We are actually going to provide you with a free personality 00:10:35.46\00:10:37.90 test that you will go and take and we will discuss 00:10:37.93\00:10:41.64 the results on our next program. 00:10:41.67\00:10:45.54 Join me in welcoming Don and Elaine to "Road to Romance." 00:10:52.01\00:10:55.52 Don and Elaine, welcome! Thank you! 00:10:55.55\00:10:57.39 So let's begin by saying a little bit about 00:10:57.42\00:11:00.69 where you're from... Don, what do you do? 00:11:00.72\00:11:03.32 Well, we currently are living in Virginia. 00:11:03.36\00:11:05.46 We met you last December up in New York City. You did. 00:11:05.49\00:11:08.83 And, Elaine is and I'm concerned 00:11:08.86\00:11:12.67 also about our communication and what it has been. 00:11:12.70\00:11:14.87 We've been married for 42 years and during that 00:11:14.90\00:11:18.64 period of time, we are quite different. 00:11:18.67\00:11:21.31 I don't talk a whole lot, Elaine does talk a whole lot. 00:11:21.34\00:11:25.15 I'm not real emotional, Elaine is very emotional. 00:11:25.18\00:11:28.85 So it sounds like we're fitting into this 00:11:28.88\00:11:31.02 XY pattern quite fully and, of course, I am here because 00:11:31.05\00:11:38.96 Elaine, as she has for the last 42 years, been very 00:11:38.99\00:11:42.66 encouraging that I learn to talk more so I'm doing that. 00:11:42.70\00:11:48.74 My background - We presently live in Virginia. 00:11:48.77\00:11:51.04 We've lived there now for about 30 years and we have 2 children, 00:11:51.07\00:11:55.24 a boy and a girl and we are very committed to our relationship 00:11:55.28\00:12:02.95 even though it sometimes runs into 00:12:02.98\00:12:06.22 head-butting with one another. 00:12:06.25\00:12:08.86 So, we're looking forward to what we have learned so far 00:12:08.89\00:12:13.80 in our initial discussion with you and what we will as we 00:12:13.83\00:12:16.36 go through the program here over the next several weeks. 00:12:16.40\00:12:22.00 All right, thank you, Elaine? 00:12:22.04\00:12:23.57 I am a musician, Don is an electrical engineer, 00:12:24.64\00:12:29.21 and so we are at the ends of the spectrum of the scale 00:12:29.24\00:12:33.18 as far as our emotionality is concerned... 00:12:33.21\00:12:36.92 And I, as a musician, have put my whole soul and heart into it. 00:12:36.95\00:12:42.76 And the needs are that that is very legitimate. 00:12:42.79\00:12:48.23 It is also what makes the world go around and makes it 00:12:48.26\00:12:54.74 delightful to be in because there are feelings there. 00:12:54.77\00:12:59.01 Nurturing as a woman, as a mother, I very much wanted 00:12:59.04\00:13:03.41 to be a mother, teach music classes. 00:13:03.45\00:13:07.48 My life has been bound up in my ministry with music. 00:13:07.52\00:13:12.49 It's not just a job for me, but it is part of who I am, 00:13:12.52\00:13:17.49 and I retired a year ago. 00:13:17.53\00:13:20.56 So this has now put us in closer proximity to each other 00:13:20.60\00:13:24.70 now that both of us have retired, 00:13:24.73\00:13:27.14 and some of these differences that we have 00:13:27.17\00:13:29.24 have become much more marked. Right 00:13:29.27\00:13:31.77 So we have been very encouraged by the way that you are 00:13:31.81\00:13:36.85 dealing with the XY Theory, and that this will 00:13:36.88\00:13:40.32 enhance us in our being able not only to communicate 00:13:40.35\00:13:43.55 with each other, but to reach out and meet each other's needs. 00:13:43.59\00:13:47.56 Well thank you, it will. 00:13:47.59\00:13:49.66 As I mentioned before, off the set, what we're going is 00:13:49.69\00:13:56.20 coaching - it's very different from counseling, 00:13:56.23\00:13:59.23 it's very different from therapy. 00:13:59.27\00:14:01.07 It's more goal-oriented, whereas therapy tends to 00:14:01.10\00:14:06.17 focus a lot more on psychoanalysis, 00:14:06.21\00:14:09.31 a lot more on your past and how your past 00:14:09.34\00:14:12.05 affects your present and it isn't that your past 00:14:12.08\00:14:14.55 doesn't affect your present, it's just that 00:14:14.58\00:14:17.05 using the coaching method, we tend to focus more 00:14:17.09\00:14:21.39 on the present and what we can do or what we can partner with, 00:14:21.42\00:14:26.39 is the language that they use, so that we can set goals 00:14:26.43\00:14:29.63 that are achievable. 00:14:29.66\00:14:31.53 There are some goals that are not achievable, 00:14:31.57\00:14:33.27 but to find that out, you have to set them. 00:14:33.30\00:14:35.20 You have to go after them and so the whole coaching 00:14:35.24\00:14:38.34 process is a different process, but I want to commend you 00:14:38.37\00:14:41.08 for coming on the air and sharing your process with us, 00:14:41.11\00:14:46.08 and with our viewers. 00:14:46.11\00:14:48.12 What I found, as I researched XY Theory for over 00:14:48.15\00:14:53.05 a period of 5 years and actually worked with now almost 00:14:53.09\00:14:57.26 1,000 couples, is that a lot of couples are very 00:14:57.29\00:15:01.90 cautious about sharing the conflict and sharing the 00:15:01.93\00:15:08.60 difficulty that they are having in their relationship. 00:15:08.64\00:15:09.97 I actually have a name for them... 00:15:10.01\00:15:12.77 In my book, I call them "the silent sufferers." 00:15:12.81\00:15:14.81 Well, if you are in an XY relationship and we will explain 00:15:14.84\00:15:18.21 what that means in a minute, you tend to not want to 00:15:18.25\00:15:22.28 share your concerns with other people, 00:15:22.32\00:15:26.15 and even more so if you are leaders in a church. 00:15:26.19\00:15:28.96 What we found is that leaders often suffer the most, 00:15:28.99\00:15:31.73 our ministers, our deacons, our elders because they 00:15:31.76\00:15:35.26 really have no one to turn to 00:15:35.30\00:15:37.27 and so we see a sort of dichotomy - we see a couple 00:15:37.30\00:15:41.27 that are all smiles at church, 00:15:41.30\00:15:43.57 kisses, fellowshipping and as soon as they get home, 00:15:43.61\00:15:48.34 it's almost a Jekyll and Hyde experience, 00:15:48.38\00:15:51.05 a completely different animal. 00:15:51.08\00:15:53.55 And so, reveals me to know they are not alone, 00:15:53.58\00:15:58.25 that that dichotomy is being felt by so many of our couples, 00:15:58.29\00:16:01.99 and the only way for that to happen is for folks like you 00:16:02.02\00:16:04.63 to come on a program like this to share that with them. 00:16:04.66\00:16:07.66 So I'm very happy that you're here and I believe that 00:16:07.70\00:16:11.67 we will accomplish some great 00:16:11.70\00:16:13.67 goals with regard to your relationship. 00:16:13.70\00:16:16.44 Now before we go further, I asked you guys to write out 00:16:16.47\00:16:21.41 what your goals were for this experience and, Don, 00:16:21.44\00:16:27.22 you're going to see Elaine's goals for the first time. 00:16:27.25\00:16:30.32 Elaine, you're going to see Don's goals for the first time, 00:16:30.35\00:16:33.36 and tonight, you can discuss it, you can talk about it... 00:16:33.39\00:16:38.09 And when we meet again, we can hear some feedback 00:16:38.13\00:16:43.53 about how you felt about what Don feels are priority goals 00:16:43.57\00:16:47.94 in the marriage and what you feel are goals in the marriage. 00:16:47.97\00:16:51.04 So let's take a look at the monitor and the first slide. 00:16:51.07\00:16:54.84 This is Don's and #1, Don wants improving the 00:16:54.88\00:16:59.61 communication between you to you and Elaine. 00:16:59.65\00:17:02.85 I have to say that whenever you have common goals, 00:17:02.88\00:17:07.66 whenever a couple has common goals that they actually set 00:17:07.69\00:17:10.63 separately, it's very exciting because it means 00:17:10.66\00:17:15.16 that here is agreement. 00:17:15.20\00:17:16.83 No matter what disagreement takes place in a marriage, 00:17:16.87\00:17:19.47 here's one thing that you guys both agree on and that is 00:17:19.50\00:17:22.87 that communication absolutely needs to be improved 00:17:22.90\00:17:26.27 for this marriage to get better 00:17:26.31\00:17:28.18 for the relationship to get stronger. 00:17:28.21\00:17:30.35 So that's a point of agreement and that's very exciting 00:17:30.38\00:17:32.71 because it means that you guys will probably want to compromise 00:17:32.75\00:17:35.92 at least on that one point. 00:17:35.95\00:17:38.39 #2- An orderly home and yard ready for sale, 00:17:38.42\00:17:42.22 but without feeling rushed. 00:17:42.26\00:17:44.16 #2 is pretty exciting because I know a little bit 00:17:44.23\00:17:48.26 of what's going on on the home front 00:17:48.30\00:17:50.30 but just to give a little background, 00:17:50.33\00:17:52.27 Don, if I may and feel free to jump in at any time. 00:17:52.30\00:17:54.67 Elaine was concerned about the fact that you guys are moving 00:17:54.70\00:17:59.61 to a new retirement community and, of course, 00:17:59.64\00:18:03.24 a home needs to be prepared for sale. 00:18:03.28\00:18:06.15 If you're anything like me, Don, there's a basement 00:18:06.18\00:18:09.28 of stuff that needs to be sorted through, 00:18:09.32\00:18:12.79 probably a couple of rooms with important paperwork 00:18:12.82\00:18:17.06 that need to be addressed and so I understand Elaine 00:18:17.09\00:18:23.57 that, you know, for you there's a timeline, 00:18:23.60\00:18:25.77 if we don't get that done, then we don't get this done, 00:18:25.80\00:18:28.34 we don't move to our little paradise if we don't get 00:18:28.37\00:18:32.67 certain things taken care of. 00:18:32.71\00:18:34.44 So it's interesting to know, however, that Don agrees, 00:18:34.48\00:18:38.95 he actually agrees that the orderliness needs to be 00:18:38.98\00:18:45.05 taken care of, the papers that are out of place - they need 00:18:45.09\00:18:49.36 to be sorted and he agrees. 00:18:49.39\00:18:52.13 The only difference here, really is the timeframe. 00:18:52.16\00:18:56.53 Don, of course, wants it to be done, realizes that it needs 00:18:57.17\00:19:01.37 to be done in a timeframe that 00:19:01.40\00:19:02.97 doesn't allow him to feel rushed. 00:19:03.00\00:19:05.77 You remind me of my dad, Don, he retired and the last thing 00:19:05.81\00:19:10.35 he wanted in retirement was to feel like he was still at work. 00:19:10.38\00:19:13.82 Was to feel like those pressures were still there, 00:19:13.85\00:19:15.82 the clock is still being punched, you know, someone is 00:19:15.85\00:19:18.02 looking over my shoulder and that's how my dad 00:19:18.05\00:19:20.72 felt and I understand a lot of retired men feel that way. 00:19:20.76\00:19:24.76 They want retirement to feel different 00:19:24.79\00:19:27.33 from actual labor, actual working 30-40 years. 00:19:27.36\00:19:31.67 How long have you been an engineer? 00:19:31.70\00:19:33.03 Well, from 1968, that's 46 years now. 00:19:33.07\00:19:37.74 Forty-six, okay, and then you put in your time and 00:19:37.77\00:19:41.64 now, you know, you want the relaxation phase 00:19:41.68\00:19:44.78 of your life to begin. 00:19:44.81\00:19:46.15 What is interesting, however, is that you're not 00:19:46.18\00:19:48.05 disagreeing with Elaine on this one at all. 00:19:48.08\00:19:51.15 You just have a different twist to it in terms of 00:19:51.19\00:19:54.02 when you would like, you know... 00:19:54.06\00:19:55.76 Well Elaine's philosophy is... "she wants it done yesterday!" 00:19:55.79\00:20:00.10 And my philosophy is.. "manana, tomorrow will also work." 00:20:00.13\00:20:04.93 It's not going to go anywhere, so it's still going to be there 00:20:04.97\00:20:07.50 for the papers to be sorted, to be collected, 00:20:07.54\00:20:09.54 to be thrown out, whatever needs to be done. Right 00:20:09.57\00:20:12.07 So the difference is the time frame that she has this 00:20:12.11\00:20:15.68 "I need to make up a list," and needs to follow these 00:20:15.71\00:20:18.91 set of orders - timeline-wise and so that come 00:20:18.95\00:20:23.72 May 5th or whatever, I got that done. 00:20:23.75\00:20:29.66 But if I don't have that done, I can get it done May 8th, 00:20:29.69\00:20:31.89 but Elaine wants it done like May 1st, 00:20:31.93\00:20:34.30 so this is part of the conflict. Okay 00:20:34.33\00:20:38.60 And as you did here, it was right of you to actually 00:20:38.63\00:20:43.04 make that a goal, but then the goal might not 00:20:43.07\00:20:46.51 be tidying up or cleaning up, but the goal might be to 00:20:46.54\00:20:51.68 get on the same page with regards to timeframe. 00:20:51.71\00:20:54.98 Okay, #3- An understanding partner who sees both sides. 00:20:55.02\00:21:01.82 Psychologists have a name for this - they have an actual 00:21:01.86\00:21:06.03 name for this kind of a problem 00:21:06.06\00:21:09.16 and they actually call it, "theory of mind." 00:21:09.20\00:21:11.83 What we're finding is that a lot of folks 00:21:11.87\00:21:14.77 seem less and less able, these days, to put themselves 00:21:14.80\00:21:19.77 in someone else's shoes, "to walk in someone else's 00:21:19.81\00:21:22.88 moccasins" as we would say. 00:21:22.91\00:21:25.05 And whenever that happens, of course, then you feel like 00:21:25.08\00:21:27.68 someone is not being very understanding. 00:21:27.72\00:21:31.49 So you are asking for a partner that has better 00:21:31.52\00:21:35.32 understanding and sees both sides. 00:21:35.36\00:21:37.73 Let's go to the next slide.. 00:21:37.76\00:21:39.09 #4- Respect from your partner. 00:21:39.13\00:21:42.76 Having verbal exchanges without anger. 00:21:42.80\00:21:46.53 And Don, that's your goal? Yes 00:21:46.57\00:21:49.67 Okay, I've spoken to both of you and realize that 00:21:49.70\00:21:54.54 this is a 2-way street, that both of you actually 00:21:54.58\00:21:57.85 feel the same way - this is another goal that you agree on, 00:21:57.88\00:22:01.35 and from what I've learned, you guys get into what we call 00:22:01.38\00:22:04.49 a "loop" where one person says something, it acts as a trigger, 00:22:04.52\00:22:09.36 the other person responds a little more angrily 00:22:09.39\00:22:13.06 and then that triggers the first person and keeps going 00:22:13.09\00:22:16.43 in a loop that doesn't end. 00:22:16.46\00:22:18.90 So what we are going to try to do in our coaching is 00:22:18.93\00:22:21.90 create a goal so that we can bring down that level of 00:22:21.94\00:22:26.94 animus that you guys have when you have these exchanges. 00:22:26.98\00:22:30.78 Now, believe it or not, these are changes that are also 00:22:30.81\00:22:33.21 are connected to the whole XY difference in a very subtle way, 00:22:33.25\00:22:37.19 but we will get to that later on. 00:22:37.22\00:22:38.82 #5- More tolerance from your partner which simply means 00:22:38.85\00:22:42.52 you would obviously like Elaine to be more tolerant 00:22:42.56\00:22:46.70 in terms of the things that she may not like about 00:22:46.73\00:22:49.96 what you're doing or how you're doing it. 00:22:50.00\00:22:51.97 And by tolerance, you might even mean more patience. 00:22:52.00\00:22:56.40 #6- Fewer demands. More time to do what you like. 00:22:56.44\00:22:59.47 Don, you can see that there's a theme flowing through here. 00:22:59.51\00:23:02.61 Let's go to the retirement theme which is 00:23:02.64\00:23:06.41 "I need more time, give me more free time." 00:23:06.45\00:23:09.42 That's why I quit my job, you know. 00:23:09.45\00:23:12.09 So that's what you're asking for there - so that's a 00:23:12.12\00:23:14.66 common goal that you have there. 00:23:14.69\00:23:16.36 Let's go to the next slide... 00:23:16.39\00:23:18.53 Elaine, and remember that you guys are 00:23:18.56\00:23:21.46 seeing this for the first time. 00:23:21.50\00:23:23.33 You did not know Elaine's goals 00:23:23.37\00:23:25.27 and she had never seen yours before. 00:23:25.30\00:23:27.04 So this is the first time Elaine's goals... 00:23:27.07\00:23:28.84 Improving the communication between the two of you. 00:23:28.87\00:23:31.07 Excellent! 00:23:31.11\00:23:32.44 #1 goal which kind of suggests this is a priority 00:23:32.47\00:23:35.04 order that you have it in. 00:23:35.08\00:23:36.64 Your #1 goal for both of you is communication. 00:23:36.68\00:23:39.15 #2- An organized house and a yard - and again agreement. 00:23:39.18\00:23:43.69 #3- A more nurturing partner. 00:23:43.72\00:23:46.25 This is connected to the whole XY Theory thing, 00:23:46.29\00:23:49.32 but we will visit that on our next program. 00:23:49.36\00:23:51.93 Next slide - Hah, wow, you guys 00:23:51.96\00:23:56.67 are almost like you started and did this together, 00:23:56.70\00:23:58.20 even though I know that you did not. 00:23:58.23\00:23:59.57 #4- Respect from your partner. 00:23:59.60\00:24:02.00 #5- Equality in the partnership and marriage. 00:24:02.07\00:24:05.01 #6- Compliments and appreciation and you will see, 00:24:05.04\00:24:08.38 Elaine, how closely those are tied to the theory. 00:24:08.41\00:24:13.21 Now this is the book that you guys will be using. 00:24:13.25\00:24:16.38 It's called, "Getting to the Two Way Relationship" 00:24:16.42\00:24:19.45 because it sounds right now that you guys are in a 00:24:19.49\00:24:21.29 one-way relationship or so it feels and part of the 00:24:21.32\00:24:24.69 coaching is to go through this, 00:24:24.73\00:24:26.06 you will get several challenges. 00:24:26.09\00:24:27.53 I'll give you challenges and you will have to 00:24:27.56\00:24:31.73 come up, you know, to those challenges and attempt to 00:24:31.77\00:24:34.64 actually pull them off. 00:24:34.67\00:24:36.54 You will do a test - we'll send you off to do a test, 00:24:36.57\00:24:40.98 and the next time, we will find out if those 00:24:41.01\00:24:43.85 results match your goals. 00:24:43.88\00:24:46.15 Does that sound okay? Yes 00:24:46.18\00:24:48.12 So what does the Bible have to say about all of this? 00:24:54.32\00:24:56.46 We have relationship problems. 00:24:56.49\00:25:00.66 We have marital issues. 00:25:00.70\00:25:03.10 The divorce rate is skyrocketing. 00:25:03.13\00:25:07.10 There must be something that we can do. 00:25:07.14\00:25:09.94 Some of us believe that we should pray more and we should. 00:25:09.97\00:25:15.34 Some of us believe we should fast more, 00:25:15.38\00:25:17.91 and even that would help, but the Bible teaches 00:25:17.95\00:25:22.68 a slightly different story. 00:25:22.72\00:25:25.75 It seems to tell us that in addition to doing all 00:25:25.79\00:25:29.09 the things that God expects us to do, 00:25:29.12\00:25:31.79 we need to do a little bit more. 00:25:31.83\00:25:36.33 Let's go back to the Garden of Eden when God created 00:25:36.36\00:25:40.10 the first human - Adam. 00:25:40.14\00:25:43.27 Adam was perfect and yet still God said, 00:25:43.30\00:25:47.34 I need to create someone for you that's suitable for you. 00:25:47.38\00:25:52.28 Now that's a rather strange thing to say. 00:25:52.31\00:25:54.68 If I am perfect, why don't You 00:25:54.72\00:25:58.45 just create another perfect being. 00:25:58.52\00:25:59.85 If all we need to be happy and relationship is perfection, 00:25:59.89\00:26:04.26 then God would not have said, I need to find you perfection 00:26:04.29\00:26:08.66 that matches your perfection. 00:26:08.70\00:26:11.27 In other words, beyond spirituality, 00:26:11.30\00:26:14.97 the uniqueness of someone's personality is extremely 00:26:15.00\00:26:19.01 important for happiness and compatibility. 00:26:19.04\00:26:23.95 And so it's important to note that Adam was given a 00:26:23.98\00:26:26.61 job on his first day of creation to name some animals. 00:26:26.65\00:26:30.69 He named a lot of animals, some say almost a billion animals. 00:26:30.72\00:26:35.32 But what did he see? 00:26:35.36\00:26:37.66 What did Adam see that would change who Adam was? 00:26:37.69\00:26:41.23 Remember, a baby, newly born, has a mind like a sponge... 00:26:41.26\00:26:46.33 everything they see in those first few days, are absorbed 00:26:46.37\00:26:49.84 in a way that changes that baby's personality 00:26:49.87\00:26:52.71 and disposition. 00:26:52.74\00:26:54.08 It was no different for Adam, our first parent. 00:26:54.11\00:26:57.35 What did Adam see? What Adam saw was 00:26:57.38\00:26:59.88 what he needed in a companion. 00:26:59.91\00:27:03.89 By looking and observing how animals interacted, 00:27:03.92\00:27:06.49 Adam was able to know what he needed. 00:27:06.52\00:27:08.36 You might find yourself bonding in your relationship 00:27:08.39\00:27:11.36 instead of bending if you knew what your partner needed 00:27:11.39\00:27:15.96 in the relationship. 00:27:16.00\00:27:17.37 I want to thank you for tuning in today. 00:27:17.40\00:27:21.70 Join us next time as we find out whether Kerissa 00:27:21.74\00:27:25.54 is an X or Y type. 00:27:25.57\00:27:27.08 You will also be able to find out about Don and Elaine 00:27:27.11\00:27:31.21 and their personality types to see how their personality 00:27:31.25\00:27:34.62 affected their relationship. 00:27:34.65\00:27:36.08 We give them tools to help them on their "Road to Romance." 00:27:36.12\00:27:41.06