Welcome again to our program,
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"Revelation of the Coming King."
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I'm glad to be
with you here again
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and my name is Ranko Stefanovic.
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I'm Professor of New Testament
in the Seventh-day Adventist
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Theological
Seminary, Andrews University.
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The courses that I teach there
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at Andrews are
New Testament courses
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even though my
cognate is the Old Testament.
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So I believe that we
should be student of the Bible,
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not just a part of the Bible.
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As you know that this series
is about the Book of Revelation.
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We are trying to
cover the entire book
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from Chapter 1 to Chapter 22.
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In our last presentation,
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we tried to
understand who are those--
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about those who will be
able to stand on that day,
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a great day of the wrath of God.
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And the answer is 144,000.
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I hope that you found
the topic very enjoying.
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But now we're coming, probably,
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to the most difficult portion
of the Book of Revelation.
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And the
Christians have been fighting
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to find the meaning,
the different opinions.
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And once again we will try
to go to the biblical principle,
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let the Bible tell us
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what that vision of
seven trumpets is all about.
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But in dealing
with that subject,
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we need the divine wisdom
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and the guidance
of the Holy Spirit.
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So I would like to ask
you that we bow our heads
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and ask God for His
favor and His presence.
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Our Heavenly Father,
once again we are here
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coming before you as we
want to go and try to understand
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these two chapters of
the Book of Revelation
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about seven
trumpets, please be with us.
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Give us that clear understanding
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but that's why we
need your Holy Spirit.
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Let Him teach us
in all the truth.
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And, Father, we're
grateful to You for everything,
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what You're doing for us.
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And we pray all of
this in the precious name
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of our Savior,
Jesus Christ, amen.
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As we do it normally
before we go to the text,
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I'd like to
encourage you again that
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once this presentation is over
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that you take different tools.
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Of course, the
Bible is our primary tool.
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And you'll see
when you follow, okay,
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the instructions here,
and you use these tools,
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you cannot be far away
from understanding of the text.
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But we need also
some other tools.
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That literally-- really point
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to those different
Old Testament backgrounds.
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So I would like
to suggest to you
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this book titled
"Revelation of Jesus Christ."
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It's verse by verse commentary
on the Book of Revelation.
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But the main
purpose of this book
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really to give you
those Old Testament
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and New
Testament background texts
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for the understanding
of the Book of Revelation.
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And the subject that
we are covering today,
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it's Revelation 8 and 9
in next two presentations,
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this
presentation, next presentation.
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Actually, the
subject is covered here
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in this commentary
from page 281--281.
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And you go on until we
finish chapter 9, okay?
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Let us now turn to
Revelation Chapter 8.
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And I would like us to
read verse 2 of this chapter.
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We read before verse 1,
about the silence in heaven.
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We saw what that
silence was about.
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And now John said,
we have the beginning,
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a beginning of a new vision.
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It says, "And I
saw the seven angels
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who stand before God,
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and seven trumpets
were given to them."
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So when we read in the
rest of these two chapters
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we will see about that
later that they're actually,
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those seven angels
are blowing the trumpets.
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Every time when
they blow the trumpets
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or when angel blows his
trumpet and another angel--
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you know, one after another,
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the events taking
place on the earth.
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So before we go
into the subject,
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we'd like ask
ourselves the question,
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what are these
trumpets all about?
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You see, we can
express different opinions
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and have a very good guess
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about the meaning
of these trumpets.
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But in the Old
Testament, the concept
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"the blowing of the trumpets"
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was well known
in ancient Israel.
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Actually, the entire
life of the people of Israel
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was defined by the
blowing of the trumpets.
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Whatever they did,
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it was on
signal of the trumpets.
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Let me just
provide few insights here.
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There are several
Hebrew words for trumpets
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that we translate in English.
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There's kind of trumpets that
were made of hammered metal.
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They were regularly
blown by the priests
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to summon people to announce
those different festivals,
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it was an
alarm, the time of war,
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signal for temple
services, et cetera, et cetera.
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The metal, okay, trumpets.
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However, the best known trumpets
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in ancient Israel
were the shofar trumpets.
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They were made,
okay, of ram's horns
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and they're used as
signaling instruments.
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Actually, evidently,
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this is the
concept of the trumpets
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that is used here
in Revelation 8 and 9.
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But what is the
meaning of the trumpets?
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What does the blowing
of trumpets actually means?
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You see, again we've to
go to the Old Testament.
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You remember, the first step
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is always to go
to the Old Testament.
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And I'd like to invite you
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to open the Book of
Numbers, Chapter 10.
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The entire chapter
actually, is the instruction
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that God gave through
Moses to the people of Israel
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with reference to the trumpets,
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but we will specifically
focus on verses 8 to 10,
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because these verses
provide for the background
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for the understanding
of the seven trumpets
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in the Book of
Revelation. Are you ready there?
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One more time, the
Book of Numbers 10:8-10.
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It says, "The
priestly sons of Aaron,
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moreover, shall
blow the trumpets,
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and this shall be for you
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a perpetual statute
throughout your generations."
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Can I stop here for a
while? Can you help me?
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Who was in
charge of the trumpets
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in ancient Israel? The priest.
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If the priest were in
charge of blowing the trumpets,
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what does it suggest to us?
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That actually the trumpets
were sacred instruments, okay?
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Let us keep this in
mind. Let's go to next text.
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"When you go to war in your land
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against the
adversary who attacks you,
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then you shall sound an
alarm with the trumpets,
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that you may be remembered
before the Lord your God,
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and be saved from your enemies.
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Also in the day of your gladness
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and in your appointed feasts,
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and on the first
days of your months,
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you shall blow the trumpets
over your burnt offerings,
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and over the sacrifices
of your peace offerings,
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and they shall be as a
reminder of you before your God.
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I am the Lord, your God."
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Actually, this is the
key Old Testament text
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that gives us the insight
into the theological meaning
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of the seven trumpets of
Revelation Chapters 8 and 9.
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What do we learn
from these texts?
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So trumpets are
sacred instruments
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blown by priests. Okay.
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Why were they blown?
For number of reasons.
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And please I will use a
kind of naive explanation here
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just to illustrate,
because this concept is here.
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You see they were intended
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to call God to
remember His people.
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Does it mean that God
does not remember His people?
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But you notice here that this
concept is here in the text.
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Let me go back. It's
verse 9 in Book of Numbers.
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"You shall sound the
alarm with the trumpets
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that you may be remembered
before the Lord your God."
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And also verse 10.
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"Also in the day
of your gladness,
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in your appointed feasts,
on the first of your months,
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you shall blow the trumpets
over your burnt offerings,
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and over the sacrifices
of your peace offerings,
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and they shall be a
reminder of you before God."
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So this served to remind God
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of His covenant
promises to His people.
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What does it mean?
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When people came to worship God,
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they would offer the sacrifices.
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At that moment, as the
sacrifices were offered,
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the priests would
take and blow the trumpets.
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And suddenly, I
told you in naive way.
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Suddenly, as the
priests blow the trumpets,
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God remembers His people.
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And He forgives their sins
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or people go there to war.
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And evidently
they are overwhelmed,
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almost defeated
by their enemies.
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And at that moment the
priests blow the trumpets
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and God looks there from heaven,
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He said, "Oh, my people
are there in the trouble."
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He remembers His people
and His covenant promises
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to protect them and He comes
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and delivers them
from their enemies.
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I know you will say
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this is just a
story for children.
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But please, would you go with me
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to another Old Testament text?
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2 Chronicles, Chapter 13.
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We have actually--
the real event, okay,
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that illustrates this statement
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that God remembers His
people from Numbers 10:8-10.
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Are you there? 2
Chronicles 13:12-15.
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He talks about the
war between the Northern
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and the Southern
kingdom of Israel.
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It says, "Now behold,
God is with us at your head
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and his priests
with the signal trumpets
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to sound the alarm against you."
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Is the king actually
trying to encourage people.
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He said, "Don't be afraid.
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The priests with the
trumpets are here with us."
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"O sons of Israel, do not fight
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against the Lord
God of your Fathers,
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for you will not succeed."
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Now we go to verse
13, "But Jeroboam has set
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an ambush to come from the rear,
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so that Israel
was in front of Judah
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and the ambush was behind them.
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When Judah
turned around, behold,
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they were attacked
from front and rear,
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so they cried to the
Lord." Now look at something.
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"They cried to the Lord
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and the priests
blew the trumpets."
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What happens next?
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"Then the men of
Judah raised a war cry,
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and when the men of
Judah raised the war cry,
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then it was that
God routed Jeroboam
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and all Israel
before Abijah and Judah."
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Do you see the
practical illustration of this?
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The people of Israel
were there in the trouble,
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almost defeated
by their enemies.
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What did they do?
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I'd like you to pay something
very, very important is.
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Because it's not just about
the blowing of the trumpets.
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It says that the
priests blew the trumpets.
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What the people do?
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They shouted, they
cried to their Lord.
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You see, the trumpets
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and the prayers of God's
people, they go together.
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It's not simply about
blowing of the trumpets.
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I will suggest
to you that actually
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the blowing of the trumpets
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was a call to
people to pray to God.
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And when the trumpets
sounded people prayed,
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then God remembered His
promises to be with His people
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and He came to deliver them.
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By the way when you
to go the Old Testament,
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trumpets are associated
with very important events
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in the Old Testament history.
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When the law was
given from Sinai,
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the sound of the trumpet.
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When Jericho was destroyed,
you remember that? Trumpet.
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By the way, when we
read the prophetic books,
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it is the sound of the trumpet
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that the day of
the Lord will come.
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In the New
Testament, Apostle Paul talks
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in 1 Corinthians Chapter 15,
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he talks in 2
Thessalonians Chapter 4
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that Jesus will come at
the sound of the trumpet
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and the sound of the trumpet,
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there will be the
resurrection of dead.
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So you see, the concept
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of the sounding
trumpet is well known concept.
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But let us keep this
Old Testament background,
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the trumpets and the
prayers, they go together.
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When people pray,
when the trumpets sound,
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then God remembers
His people praying to Him.
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Are you still with me?
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So now in light of this,
I'd like you now to invite
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that we go back to our
text in Revelation Chapter 8
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but I'd like you
to observe something
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that is very important here.
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We have another
literary feature here.
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So Chapter 8 from verse 2.
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"And I saw the seven angels,"
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I'm repeating this
text, "who stand before God,
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and seven trumpets
were given to them."
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Can you now skip
the next 3 verses?
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And would you go to verse 6.
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"And the seven angels
who had the seven trumpets
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prepared
themselves to sound them."
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You see, when you read verse 2,
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when you read verse 6,
It's chronological order.
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John sees the angels,
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now they're
sounding the trumpets,
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but what is the
problem in the text?
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That between the
verse 2 and the verse 6,
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there are 3
other verses inserted.
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Actually, they
function as another interlude.
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And that interlude,
actually is telling us
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what the seven
trumpets are all about.
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Are you with me?
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So let us now focus
on these interludes.
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You see, it's inserted
between verses 2 and 6,
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talking about
angels with the trumpets
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and when the angels
start blowing the trumpets.
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So let's see.
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"Another angel came
and he stood at the altar
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holding a golden censer
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and much
incense was given to him
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so that he might add it to
the prayers of all the saints
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on the golden altar
which was before the throne.
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And the smoke of the incense
with the prayers of the saints
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went up before God
out of the angel's hand.
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Then the angel took the censer
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and filled it with
the fire of the altar,
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and threw it to the earth
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and that followed
peals of thunder and sound
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and flashes of
lightening and earthquake."
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When the censer is thrown down,
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creating that great noise.
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It is that
moment the seven angels
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started blowing the
trumpets one after another.
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Are you still with me? Please.
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I have to say here
something very important.
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This text is very
important, very significant.
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Unfortunately, very
much misunderstood text.
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Many futurist Christians,
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including my dear brothers,
sisters from my own denomination
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some of them,
they go to this text.
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And they conclude that the
throwing of the censer down
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creating that
noise actually signifies
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so called the
close of the probation.
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The cessation of Jesus'
intercession there in heaven
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and that they include,
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since the
blowing of the trumpets
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comes after
throwing of the censer,
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that actually seven trumpets
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are still in the future
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that will take
place after the close
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of intercession there in heaven.
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So it's a future
event to take place
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before the
second coming of Christ.
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However, this is
completely opposite
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to the biblical evidences
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and what we know
about the temple services.
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In the Old Testament,
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especially in the 1st
Century in Jerusalem temple.
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So please you now allow me,
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that we go and address
those issues one more time.
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We have to keep in mind
that verses 3 through 6,
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they do not follow,
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they do not follow
the chronological order--
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okay, of verse 2 and 6.
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You see, it's a clear insertion,
it's a clear interlude.
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And the purpose
of this interlude
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is really to provide for us
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the theological explanations
of the seven trumpets.
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So please I'd like you
now that you be with me,
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because I'd like to describe
little bit in graphic way--
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so what we have here. Yes.
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You read in your
Bibles in English.
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This is another scholarly
article that I had to write.
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John sees an angel.
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Where is the angel
seen by? By the altar.
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Unfortunately this is
completely wrong translation.
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And please forgive me.
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People who translate the Bible
are great linguistics they know.
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But sometimes their
theological presuppositions
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affect the translation, why?
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Because they believe
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that this scene takes
place there in heaven.
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And in heaven,
there is only one altar,
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according to the
Bible, which altar is?
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The altar of incense.
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So they say, Altar of Incense
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is object size of this.
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So how can angel be up
on the altar as Greek says?
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So that they assume that
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actually the angel
was seen at the altar.
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Are you with me?
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I will suggest to
you-- I challenge this view.
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Please, would you go with
me back there to the text?
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It says, verse 3,
"Another angel came
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and stood at the altar
holding a golden censer."
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Where was the angel standing?
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They said, at the altar, okay.
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"And much
incense was given to him
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so that he might add it
to the prayers of all saints
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on the golden altar
which is before the throne."
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Did you notice here?
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At the end of this verse that
the golden altar is mentioned.
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And when you go to
the Old Testament--
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the century system,
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there is only one
golden altar that is in temple
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and this is the
Altar of Incense.
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Now would it be unusual,
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that John sees the
angel standing at the altar,
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assuming that this
is the Altar of Incense.
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An angel takes the incense
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and he offers
on the golden altar
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which is also
the Altar of Incense.
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Would be normal that he sees
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angel standing
at the golden altar
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and the incense is
offered then on the altar.
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Because the first altar
is not the golden altar,
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is the altar of the
burnt offerings, of sacrifices.
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And please I want to just
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to portray to you
how this altar look like.
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We came from Josephus Flavius,
from Jewish work Mishnah.
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We have the description
of the altar Jerusalem
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and usually when we talk
about altar what do we think?
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We think about small
object where the lamb was put.
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And so many times we're impacted
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by popular pictures of
artists that they're doing that.
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By the way, how they portray?
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That altar had stairways.
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I forgot the measure,
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it's a huge
object that the priest,
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they have to climb
there to the top there.
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It was sizeable, a
sizeable object there.
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The priest would
go there, you see.
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People climb there, the priest--
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the priest would stand
here and they would offer,
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offer the sacrifice.
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That's why John sees
that angel upon the altar.
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Where is the altar of
sacrifice is located? On earth.
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And here at this altar,
the angel takes the censer
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and he was given the incense
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and he takes that incense where,
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to offer up on the
golden altar there in heaven.
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That golden altar
John makes very clear
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is before the throne of God.
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He says to open that incense
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with the
prayers of God's people.
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Oh boy, something
here is very significant
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and very, very important to us.
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I'll tell you
something from the Mishnah,
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what they say about the custom
00:24:15.31\00:24:17.53
that's reflected
here in chapter 8.
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But I'd like to
ask you a question.
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Have you ever
thought why so significant
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that at this altar--
the altar of sacrifices,
00:24:28.37\00:24:33.01
the angel is seen
as taking the incense
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and the prayers of God's
people to take there before God?
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Let me just remind you.
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If you remember, just
few presentations earlier,
00:24:45.09\00:24:49.73
we talked about the
altar of sacrifices.
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And John saw beneath
that altar, the blood,
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the source of God's
people who were persecuted
00:24:59.23\00:25:02.65
and they were martyred there.
00:25:02.68\00:25:04.50
What were they doing there?
00:25:04.53\00:25:06.97
Praying to God, asking God
how long Lord God of mighty,
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will You not avenge our blood
00:25:12.94\00:25:14.83
and judge those
who dwell on the earth?
00:25:14.86\00:25:18.00
But you know so many
times when we pray to God,
00:25:18.03\00:25:21.08
our prayers seem to be unheard.
00:25:21.11\00:25:25.83
But you see it is with
this vision, this interlude.
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This interlude is inserted
intentionally here to tell us
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that now the time has come
and there isn't any angel here.
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He comes and takes
those prayers of God's people.
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And takes them there before God.
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He offers those prayers
00:25:48.54\00:25:50.32
on the golden altar of
incense there before God.
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What happens when the angel
offers those prayers before God?
00:25:55.44\00:26:02.30
Now the judgment comes.
00:26:02.33\00:26:04.95
The same angel takes
that censer that took
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the prayers of God's
people there before God,
00:26:09.46\00:26:12.46
fills with the
fire from this altar.
00:26:12.49\00:26:17.09
He comes out of the
holy place there in heaven
00:26:17.12\00:26:21.65
and he throws the censer
down and there was such a noise,
00:26:21.68\00:26:26.54
lightening and
all kinds of sounds.
00:26:26.57\00:26:29.77
In that moment when he does it--
00:26:29.80\00:26:32.23
the angels, they
blow the trumpets.
00:26:32.26\00:26:35.10
When the first
angel blows the trumpet,
00:26:35.13\00:26:36.92
there is something that
takes place on the earth.
00:26:36.95\00:26:39.47
The judgments
of God are on those
00:26:39.50\00:26:41.95
who persecute
God's people. Okay.
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Let me document these,
what we were talking about.
00:26:46.34\00:26:50.15
In the Jewish work Mishnah,
00:26:50.18\00:26:54.34
we have the clear explanations
00:26:54.37\00:26:56.83
what we are talking here about.
00:26:56.86\00:26:59.67
The people who believe
that Revelation 8:3-5 portrays
00:26:59.70\00:27:04.91
the close of the probation,
00:27:04.94\00:27:07.11
they are wrong
for one simple reason
00:27:07.14\00:27:09.24
because the Jewish work Mishnah
00:27:09.27\00:27:11.65
describes what
was going on in temple
00:27:11.68\00:27:14.61
in Jerusalem
under the title Tanith.
00:27:14.64\00:27:18.80
Are you familiar
with word 'Tanith?'
00:27:18.83\00:27:20.72
It's the Hebrew word
00:27:20.75\00:27:22.12
that we translate
as the word 'daily.'
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That describes what
the priests were doing
00:27:25.12\00:27:26.96
every day in the temple.
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It's not the Day of Atonement.
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It's not the
close of the probation.
00:27:30.53\00:27:32.54
It's something that
was taking place every day
00:27:32.57\00:27:34.80
at temple and
they sent, they sent.
00:27:34.83\00:27:36.82
The priest would
offer the sacrifice here.
00:27:36.85\00:27:42.98
We're talking
about evening sacrifice.
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At that moment the priest
would come there to the altar
00:27:45.90\00:27:48.89
and other priest
would come to him
00:27:48.92\00:27:51.00
and bring him this golden censer
00:27:51.03\00:27:54.35
and another priest
would help that priest
00:27:54.38\00:27:56.58
to put the fire into the censer
and they give to him to incense.
00:27:56.61\00:28:01.35
People are standing
outside and the priest there.
00:28:01.38\00:28:04.08
At that moment the priest
would go down from this altar
00:28:04.11\00:28:08.68
and walk into the
Holy Place of the temple.
00:28:08.71\00:28:12.98
People would fall
down there on the ground
00:28:13.01\00:28:16.23
and be praying to God.
00:28:16.26\00:28:17.95
He would go
there into the temple,
00:28:17.98\00:28:21.37
into the Holy Place,
offer the incense before God.
00:28:21.40\00:28:27.43
When he ministered
the incense, finishing,
00:28:27.46\00:28:30.26
finished
ministering the incense.
00:28:30.29\00:28:32.43
Then he would go
and fill that censer
00:28:32.46\00:28:35.28
now that in which
originally was incense,
00:28:35.31\00:28:38.69
fill it with the fire there.
00:28:38.72\00:28:41.45
People were outside praying,
00:28:41.48\00:28:43.93
waiting for him to
appear and he would come out,
00:28:43.96\00:28:47.35
triumphantly announce
that the incense was offered
00:28:47.38\00:28:50.79
and he would take a
censer and throw down.
00:28:50.82\00:28:55.29
Actually, Jewish
work Mishnah said,
00:28:55.32\00:28:57.67
the sound of the
censer was so loud
00:28:57.70\00:29:01.01
that people could not hear
the voice of their neighbor.
00:29:01.04\00:29:03.74
Of course, it's exaggeration.
00:29:03.77\00:29:05.69
Actually, the
next paragraph said
00:29:05.72\00:29:07.48
that the sound was so loud
00:29:07.51\00:29:10.28
that even could be heard
from Jerusalem to Jericho there.
00:29:10.31\00:29:14.14
Evidently, they wanted to put
00:29:14.17\00:29:15.57
so strong emphasis
on the sound, okay.
00:29:15.60\00:29:18.28
The moment when the
priest threw the censer,
00:29:18.31\00:29:21.49
the priest, seven
priests with their trumpets,
00:29:21.52\00:29:24.45
they started blowing the
trumpet announcing that they--
00:29:24.48\00:29:29.91
the Tanith service for that day.
00:29:29.94\00:29:32.70
See friends, you understand now
00:29:32.73\00:29:35.66
what we have in
Revelation Chapter 8.
00:29:35.69\00:29:37.75
It reflects the daily or Tanith
services in the earthly temple.
00:29:37.78\00:29:42.40
This is not the
close of the probation.
00:29:42.43\00:29:45.33
It has nothing to do with that.
00:29:45.36\00:29:48.26
It simply reflects
the daily services.
00:29:48.29\00:29:50.96
Something that was
taking place on the daily basis
00:29:50.99\00:29:55.36
there in the
temple in Jerusalem.
00:29:55.39\00:29:58.02
Are you still with me?
00:29:58.05\00:29:59.67
So now, what is actually
00:29:59.70\00:30:03.06
the meaning of all of
this that we try to understand?
00:30:03.09\00:30:06.61
Please let me just remind
you of several background texts,
00:30:06.64\00:30:12.64
what we have here
in this interlude.
00:30:12.67\00:30:16.60
The first important
text is Ezekiel 10:1-7.
00:30:16.63\00:30:22.32
When Ezekiel saw in the vision,
00:30:22.35\00:30:24.83
"An expanse that was over
the heads of the cherubim,
00:30:24.86\00:30:28.19
something like sapphire stone,
00:30:28.22\00:30:30.14
in appearance resembling a
throne, appeared above them.
00:30:30.17\00:30:33.55
And he spoke to the man
clothed in linen and he said,
00:30:33.58\00:30:37.54
'Enter between the whirling
wheels under the cherubim,
00:30:37.57\00:30:40.82
fill your hands
with coals of fire
00:30:40.85\00:30:43.43
from between the cherubim
00:30:43.46\00:30:44.99
and scatter them over
city.'" City, Jerusalem.
00:30:45.02\00:30:48.35
"And he entered into my sight...
00:30:48.38\00:30:50.29
then the cherub
stretched out his hand
00:30:50.32\00:30:52.26
from between the
cherubim to the fire
00:30:52.29\00:30:54.33
which was between the cherubim,
00:30:54.36\00:30:56.10
took some and put it into the
hands of one clothed in linen,
00:30:56.13\00:30:59.78
who took it and went out."
What is this vision all about?
00:30:59.81\00:31:04.30
It's actually
about God's judgment
00:31:04.33\00:31:06.21
over unfaithful Jerusalem.
00:31:06.24\00:31:08.58
So this vision of
Ezekiel is telling us actually,
00:31:08.61\00:31:12.44
what this
interlude is all about,
00:31:12.47\00:31:14.32
because this
interlude reflects the vision,
00:31:14.35\00:31:17.95
the vision of Ezekiel.
00:31:17.98\00:31:19.36
By the way let me remind
you just a few biblical texts.
00:31:19.39\00:31:22.35
If you go to
Psalm 141, Psalm 141:2,
00:31:22.38\00:31:27.50
"May my prayer be
counted as incense before you,
00:31:27.53\00:31:33.19
the lifting up of my
hands as the evening offering."
00:31:33.22\00:31:37.42
You can see how
this text really tell us
00:31:37.45\00:31:40.23
what the offering of
that incense is all about.
00:31:40.26\00:31:43.76
But I'd like us to go
to the Book of Revelation,
00:31:43.79\00:31:45.74
because the Book of
Revelation really gives us
00:31:45.77\00:31:48.03
the meaning of this incense.
00:31:48.06\00:31:51.14
Chapter 5, verse 8,
"When he had taken the book,
00:31:51.17\00:31:55.13
the four living creatures
00:31:55.16\00:31:57.31
and the twenty-four elders
fell down before the lamb,
00:31:57.34\00:32:01.80
each one holding a harp and
golden bowls full of incense,
00:32:01.83\00:32:08.18
which are the
prayers of the saints."
00:32:08.21\00:32:12.57
Do we have any doubt
00:32:12.60\00:32:13.97
what actually this
incense is all about?
00:32:14.00\00:32:16.42
Now please I'd like you
that you see now connection.
00:32:16.45\00:32:21.69
When it says in
symbolical language
00:32:21.72\00:32:24.01
that the angel was
there at the altar,
00:32:24.04\00:32:26.17
up actually on the
altar, up on the altar,
00:32:26.20\00:32:28.84
when he took that incense
and he offered that incense up
00:32:28.87\00:32:33.06
on that golden
altar before the throne,
00:32:33.09\00:32:35.55
before God together we
praise for God's people.
00:32:35.58\00:32:38.84
Now we see what
is this all about.
00:32:38.87\00:32:40.63
These are not any prayers.
00:32:40.66\00:32:42.58
These are the
prayers of God's harmed,
00:32:42.61\00:32:45.84
persecuted and oppressed
people from the fifth seal.
00:32:45.87\00:32:49.40
You remember that God
gave them the promise,
00:32:49.43\00:32:52.46
just wait for a while.
00:32:52.49\00:32:55.55
The time is coming when
I will judge your enemies
00:32:55.58\00:32:59.15
but please now, please
now, it's very important.
00:32:59.18\00:33:03.68
But actually this
interlude is giving us
00:33:03.71\00:33:06.80
little bit different message.
00:33:06.83\00:33:08.98
Not only that God, one day
00:33:09.01\00:33:11.42
will judge the
enemies of His people.
00:33:11.45\00:33:13.83
He is telling them I am
already judging your enemies.
00:33:13.86\00:33:18.31
Yeah, amen.
00:33:18.34\00:33:21.08
Let me stop for a while.
00:33:21.11\00:33:23.14
That God will judge the enemies
of His people refers to what?
00:33:23.17\00:33:27.37
To the seven last plagues.
00:33:27.40\00:33:30.67
But seven
trumpets are God's judgment
00:33:30.70\00:33:35.03
already in the
present time judging enemies.
00:33:35.06\00:33:37.05
So the seven
trumpets are the precursor.
00:33:37.08\00:33:39.37
A foretaste of
that great judgment.
00:33:39.40\00:33:44.32
The seven trumpets are actually
00:33:44.35\00:33:47.30
the expression
of the wrath of God,
00:33:47.33\00:33:50.10
okay, to help His
people to deliver them.
00:33:50.13\00:33:52.77
But when we come
to seven last plagues
00:33:52.80\00:33:55.11
you'll see the
seven last plagues,
00:33:55.14\00:33:58.44
actually are the
fullness of God's wrath.
00:33:58.47\00:34:02.04
You see the seven trumpets
are mixed with the mercy,
00:34:02.07\00:34:05.32
they intended even the
enemies of God's people
00:34:05.35\00:34:08.75
to bring to repentance.
00:34:08.78\00:34:10.19
But the seven last plagues,
00:34:10.22\00:34:11.67
they're not intended to
bring anybody to repentance,
00:34:11.70\00:34:14.38
because they take place
after the closed probation.
00:34:14.41\00:34:17.43
Seven trumpets are before
the close of the probation.
00:34:17.46\00:34:20.85
And we will see the
chapters 10--11 show clearly
00:34:20.88\00:34:25.17
that even while the
sixth trumpet is blown,
00:34:25.20\00:34:30.44
there is the
preaching of the gospel.
00:34:30.47\00:34:32.85
And the two
witnesses are doing that,
00:34:32.88\00:34:36.41
proclaiming the
everlasting gospel to the world.
00:34:36.44\00:34:39.56
So the seven trumpets, actually,
00:34:39.59\00:34:42.22
around the same period of
history as the seven seals.
00:34:42.25\00:34:48.29
Okay, now you have to help me.
00:34:48.32\00:34:49.69
I just want that you see
00:34:49.72\00:34:51.12
how we have the keys
in the Book of Revelation.
00:34:51.15\00:34:54.03
Can you go back one more time
00:34:54.06\00:34:55.66
to how Mishnah
describes the daily services?
00:34:55.69\00:35:01.47
According to
Mishnah, the Mishnah,
00:35:01.50\00:35:04.70
when did the angel, sorry,
00:35:04.73\00:35:07.30
when did the
priest take the incense
00:35:07.33\00:35:12.67
to offer there in
the Holy Place, when?
00:35:12.70\00:35:15.68
After the offering
the evening sacrifice.
00:35:15.71\00:35:22.45
Here we have a clue
00:35:22.48\00:35:25.40
of the
beginning of the trumpets,
00:35:25.43\00:35:28.69
because we have 2,000 years ago
00:35:28.72\00:35:32.98
that the sacrifice was
offered on the cross of Calvary.
00:35:33.01\00:35:38.98
It was after
Jesus' death on the cross.
00:35:39.01\00:35:42.61
And His ascension
there to the heavenly places
00:35:42.64\00:35:45.97
that it is after that
the seven trumpets are blown
00:35:46.00\00:35:50.33
and both the sixth
seal and the seventh seal
00:35:50.36\00:35:54.08
and the sixth trumpet
and the seventh trumpet
00:35:54.11\00:35:56.29
actually brings us
to the time of the end.
00:35:56.32\00:35:58.82
So we have here
the clear indication
00:35:58.85\00:36:01.11
that the seals and the trumpets,
00:36:01.14\00:36:02.82
they run the same
course of history.
00:36:02.85\00:36:06.21
Does not mean that each seal
and trumpet they match there,
00:36:06.24\00:36:09.35
but they cover the same
period of Christian history.
00:36:09.38\00:36:13.12
I'd like you now to
notice something else.
00:36:13.15\00:36:17.78
Please, now you have
to cooperate with me.
00:36:17.81\00:36:20.43
I'd like to bring to your
memory what we talk about seals.
00:36:20.46\00:36:25.46
Let's see how the
seals are organized.
00:36:25.49\00:36:27.40
Please I will use
the blackboard here.
00:36:27.43\00:36:30.74
Please, the seals
they fall in groups.
00:36:30.77\00:36:35.05
What is the
first group of seals?
00:36:35.08\00:36:37.10
Four horsemen. Okay,
let's put it here, seals.
00:36:37.13\00:36:42.76
You have four
horsemen. What comes next?
00:36:42.79\00:36:48.50
Two seals, do you
remember that? Why two seals?
00:36:48.53\00:36:50.88
Because before the last seal,
we have the interlude, okay?
00:36:50.91\00:36:55.28
So we have two seals.
00:36:55.31\00:36:58.40
Seal fifth and sixth and
then we've the seventh seal.
00:36:58.43\00:37:05.63
But before the seventh seal,
00:37:05.66\00:37:08.98
we have a kind of
interlude and it's chapter 7.
00:37:09.01\00:37:13.09
Do you see that?
00:37:13.12\00:37:15.17
Please, what is the purpose
of chapter 7 of this interlude?
00:37:15.20\00:37:19.37
To identify God's
people, to tell us
00:37:19.40\00:37:23.02
about those
who'll be able to stand
00:37:23.05\00:37:26.02
in the day of the wrath of God.
00:37:26.05\00:37:28.08
The God's end time
people. Are you with me?
00:37:28.11\00:37:31.07
Those who will live before
the second coming of Christ.
00:37:31.10\00:37:33.59
Let's go to trumpets.
Okay, let me put here.
00:37:33.62\00:37:41.04
How the seven
trumpets organized?
00:37:41.07\00:37:45.00
In the same way.
00:37:45.03\00:37:46.85
You can see we
have here four trumpets.
00:37:46.88\00:37:49.52
Why four trumpets?
00:37:49.55\00:37:51.09
If you can just see
the first four trumpets,
00:37:51.12\00:37:56.13
they're just in
one chapter very short
00:37:56.16\00:37:59.98
2-3 verses about each
chapter, about each trumpet.
00:38:00.01\00:38:03.28
Can you notice it there?
00:38:03.31\00:38:05.35
But then if you go
to Chapter 8 verse 13
00:38:05.38\00:38:08.87
only 12 verses
about four trumpets.
00:38:08.90\00:38:11.14
You read in verse 3 about war
00:38:11.17\00:38:15.09
against
inhabitants of the earth,
00:38:15.12\00:38:17.35
those who live on the earth,
00:38:17.38\00:38:18.75
because of the
last three trumpets
00:38:18.78\00:38:20.79
which are actually three wars.
00:38:20.82\00:38:23.87
They're
different-- so once again
00:38:23.90\00:38:27.31
we have here two trumpets.
00:38:27.34\00:38:32.67
And then there is-- oh, sorry,
00:38:32.70\00:38:34.60
this is not seven--actually
another one trumpet, okay?
00:38:34.63\00:38:37.78
And then there is
the seventh trumpet
00:38:37.81\00:38:41.08
that comes actually in
chapter 11, very far, later.
00:38:41.11\00:38:45.50
But before the sixth
and the seventh trumpet,
00:38:45.53\00:38:48.19
what do we have?
00:38:48.22\00:38:49.59
We have another interlude,
which is actually chapter 10.
00:38:49.62\00:38:56.76
You remember John,
and eating the scroll
00:38:56.79\00:39:00.57
that was sweet in his
mouth, bitter in his stomach.
00:39:00.60\00:39:04.36
Then we go to chapter 11,
we have the two witnesses,
00:39:04.39\00:39:07.28
you remember that.
00:39:07.31\00:39:09.02
So we have here,
00:39:09.05\00:39:12.40
chapter 9, sorry, chapter 10.
00:39:12.43\00:39:19.07
Okay, from verse 1
00:39:19.10\00:39:21.26
to chapter 11 verse 14,
00:39:21.29\00:39:28.01
we have another interlude.
00:39:28.04\00:39:31.81
You will notice here
how the two interludes
00:39:31.84\00:39:36.32
that fit into the
same historical time
00:39:36.35\00:39:39.35
just before the
second coming of Christ.
00:39:39.38\00:39:43.31
What is the
purpose of this interlude?
00:39:43.34\00:39:45.88
To identify God's people
00:39:45.91\00:39:47.35
who will be at
the time of the end.
00:39:47.38\00:39:49.46
What is the
purpose of this interlude?
00:39:49.49\00:39:51.74
To tell us what
these people will be doing
00:39:51.77\00:39:57.74
at the time before the
second coming of Christ.
00:39:57.77\00:40:00.62
They're commissioned
to preach the gospel
00:40:00.65\00:40:03.62
and they will go through
that sweet bitter experience
00:40:03.65\00:40:06.49
as they proclaim the gospel.
00:40:06.52\00:40:08.27
By the way, we
have great message
00:40:08.30\00:40:10.20
when we come to that.
00:40:10.23\00:40:11.60
So we hav to wait
until we come to chapter 11--
00:40:11.63\00:40:14.43
And also to chapter 10
and also to chapter 11.
00:40:14.46\00:40:18.85
So you can now see how
actually the seven trumpets
00:40:18.88\00:40:24.13
and the seven seals, they cover
the same historical period.
00:40:24.16\00:40:30.34
There is no teaching
of the Book of Revelation
00:40:30.37\00:40:33.01
that are first seals
and after that trumpets.
00:40:33.04\00:40:35.42
Trumpets and seals,
they're on parallel.
00:40:35.45\00:40:38.77
I hope that they--both
begin with the first century
00:40:38.80\00:40:41.27
after the cross and both end
with the second coming of Christ
00:40:41.30\00:40:46.96
and actually seven
seal and the seven trumpets
00:40:46.99\00:40:50.26
describe the time after
the second coming of Christ.
00:40:50.29\00:40:54.00
So one more time before
we go to the seven trumpets,
00:40:54.03\00:40:56.94
please can somebody help me?
What are the trumpets all about?
00:40:56.97\00:41:01.13
They're God's judgments
00:41:01.16\00:41:04.04
in response to the
prayer of His people.
00:41:04.07\00:41:07.86
Let's keep the Old
Testament background.
00:41:07.89\00:41:09.62
When God's people were
in trouble what did they do?
00:41:09.65\00:41:12.88
They prayed to God
and they blowed trumpets.
00:41:12.91\00:41:16.00
Do you see the same concept
00:41:16.03\00:41:17.81
that we have here
in this interlude?
00:41:17.84\00:41:20.46
So please we have now the clue,
what the trumpets are about.
00:41:20.49\00:41:24.48
They're God's judgments
00:41:24.51\00:41:27.67
in answering the
prayers of His people.
00:41:27.70\00:41:33.73
Okay, so with this information,
00:41:33.76\00:41:38.29
now we are going
to analyze and to see
00:41:38.32\00:41:44.50
what these seven
trumpets are all about.
00:41:44.53\00:41:47.74
So the prayer of
God's people are answered,
00:41:47.77\00:41:50.42
they're heard there before God.
00:41:50.45\00:41:53.20
And now the angels
00:41:53.23\00:41:55.91
are blowing the trumpets.
00:41:55.94\00:42:02.79
And now let us go and to see
00:42:02.82\00:42:05.35
about the first,
the first trumpet
00:42:05.38\00:42:08.38
that is portrayed in
verse 7-- in verse 7.
00:42:08.41\00:42:15.72
It says that the
first angel sounded
00:42:15.75\00:42:20.42
and there came hail
and fire mixed with blood
00:42:20.45\00:42:26.64
and they were
thrown to the earth
00:42:26.67\00:42:29.20
and a third of the
earth was burned up
00:42:29.23\00:42:33.56
and a third of the
trees were burned up
00:42:33.59\00:42:37.59
and all the green
grass was burned up.
00:42:37.62\00:42:45.49
We have here a
very strange symbolism.
00:42:45.52\00:42:49.97
But when you read
this you have, okay,
00:42:50.00\00:42:52.99
you have when the
angel blows the trumpet
00:42:53.02\00:42:55.55
that there was hail
and fire mixed with blood.
00:42:55.58\00:43:00.43
By the way, what
is going on here?
00:43:00.46\00:43:03.59
It's an allusion to
the Egyptian plague.
00:43:03.62\00:43:06.87
If you remember, that
one of the Egyptians plagues,
00:43:06.90\00:43:10.47
we have the fire mixed with hail
and killing not only the animals
00:43:10.50\00:43:18.45
but also killing the people
00:43:18.48\00:43:20.10
who found
themselves there in the field.
00:43:20.13\00:43:24.42
In the Old
Testament, as we read,
00:43:24.45\00:43:28.14
God very often used
hail mixed with fire
00:43:28.17\00:43:35.78
which caused the bloodshed
as the means of the judgment
00:43:35.81\00:43:39.58
against the
enemies of His people.
00:43:39.61\00:43:41.62
Probably, one of the
best text is Ezekiel 38:22-23.
00:43:41.65\00:43:49.16
Let's read this text.
00:43:49.19\00:43:50.94
Ezekiel says, "With
pestilence and with blood
00:43:50.97\00:43:54.87
I will enter into
the judgment with him.
00:43:54.90\00:43:57.68
And I will rain on
him and on his troops,
00:43:57.71\00:44:01.13
and on many peoples who are
with him, a torrential rain,
00:44:01.16\00:44:05.07
with hailstone,
fire and brimstone,
00:44:05.10\00:44:08.68
I will magnify
myself, sanctify myself,
00:44:08.71\00:44:12.04
and make myself known in
the sight of many nations,
00:44:12.07\00:44:15.82
and they will know I am Lord."
00:44:15.85\00:44:17.57
Let's read another text
which is actually Isaiah 44:2-4.
00:44:17.60\00:44:25.26
We read here, "Thus
says the Lord who made you
00:44:25.29\00:44:28.43
and formed you from the
womb, who will help you,
00:44:28.46\00:44:31.90
'Do not fear, O
Jacob my servant,
00:44:31.93\00:44:34.51
and you Jeshurun
whom I have chosen.
00:44:34.54\00:44:37.37
For I will pour out my
water on the thirsty land
00:44:37.40\00:44:40.99
and streams on the dry ground.
00:44:41.02\00:44:43.28
I will pour out my
spirit on your offspring
00:44:43.31\00:44:46.24
and my blessing on
your descendants.'"
00:44:46.27\00:44:48.44
And now please
pay attention to this.
00:44:48.47\00:44:50.10
"'And they will
spring up among the grass,
00:44:50.13\00:44:52.73
like poplars by
streams of water.'"
00:44:52.76\00:44:55.22
These two texts are crucial
00:44:55.25\00:45:00.29
for the understanding of the
meaning of the first trumpet.
00:45:00.32\00:45:04.10
Number one, we
see that hail and fire
00:45:04.13\00:45:09.40
mixed with blood
is the frequent symbol
00:45:09.43\00:45:12.94
in the Old
Testament of judgment.
00:45:12.97\00:45:14.86
So we're talking
here about the judgment.
00:45:14.89\00:45:17.01
But you'll
notice that all of this
00:45:17.04\00:45:21.26
actually affects
the grass and the trees.
00:45:21.29\00:45:24.96
Keeping you one more time,
00:45:24.99\00:45:27.19
that the Book of
Revelation is a symbolic book.
00:45:27.22\00:45:30.59
So the question is,
are different commentators
00:45:30.62\00:45:33.85
true they say here we have
the destruction of vegetation.
00:45:33.88\00:45:36.72
Come on, do God's judgment
00:45:36.75\00:45:40.10
concern grass and trees?
00:45:40.13\00:45:44.70
When you go to
the Old Testament,
00:45:46.33\00:45:48.81
trees and grass are frequently
symbols for God's people.
00:45:48.84\00:45:54.16
I can give you so many texts.
00:45:54.19\00:45:56.65
By the way, you'll
continue study for yourself.
00:45:56.68\00:45:59.30
You go to the commentary,
00:45:59.33\00:46:00.70
you'll find there many,
many, many text to support it.
00:46:00.73\00:46:04.08
We just read here in
Isaiah, this chapter 44
00:46:04.11\00:46:08.54
and you'll see that God clearly
00:46:08.57\00:46:11.34
describes His
people as grass and trees.
00:46:11.37\00:46:15.65
So this hail and
fire mixed with blood
00:46:15.68\00:46:18.60
will destroy the
trees and green grass.
00:46:18.63\00:46:21.17
Symbolize God's judgment
against apostate believers
00:46:21.20\00:46:26.21
who have joined the ranks
00:46:26.24\00:46:27.75
of the opponents, of
the opponents of God.
00:46:27.78\00:46:29.76
So please allow
me, at this point,
00:46:29.79\00:46:33.11
I have to read another text
that comes actually from Jesus
00:46:33.14\00:46:37.38
which is very,
very significantly.
00:46:37.41\00:46:39.58
In Luke Chapter 23,
00:46:39.61\00:46:41.63
Jesus talks about
judgment against Jerusalem,
00:46:41.66\00:46:44.89
unfaithful Jerusalem.
00:46:44.92\00:46:46.94
Remember when
Jesus was taken there
00:46:46.97\00:46:49.35
to the place of crucifixion,
00:46:49.38\00:46:51.95
there is some women
they're standing and crying.
00:46:51.98\00:46:55.47
And Jesus told them,
"Don't cry because of me.
00:46:55.50\00:46:59.92
Cry about what will
happen to you and to this city."
00:46:59.95\00:47:03.91
And now comes the
statement, Luke 23:31
00:47:03.94\00:47:07.61
"For if they do these
things when the tree is green,
00:47:07.64\00:47:13.79
what will
happen when it is dry?"
00:47:13.82\00:47:18.87
Actually Jesus refers to
Himself as the green tree.
00:47:18.90\00:47:23.35
When they treat this
green tree in such way,
00:47:23.38\00:47:26.76
how will they treat
the tree that is dry?
00:47:26.79\00:47:30.05
He refers to the Jewish people
00:47:30.08\00:47:32.12
who evidently did not have
00:47:32.15\00:47:34.42
any life in
themselves, spiritual life.
00:47:34.45\00:47:37.15
Because they rejected
God, they rejected the Messiah.
00:47:37.18\00:47:41.21
And if you read
the text that follows,
00:47:41.24\00:47:43.18
you can see clearly that
actually Jesus predicted here
00:47:43.21\00:47:47.99
the judgment that will
come very soon upon Jerusalem
00:47:48.02\00:47:51.42
that it didn't happened in AD 70
00:47:51.45\00:47:54.43
when Romans they came
00:47:54.46\00:47:56.51
and actually
destroyed Jerusalem.
00:47:56.54\00:47:59.18
So actually these words of Jesus
00:47:59.21\00:48:01.12
together with
all those different
00:48:01.15\00:48:02.52
Old Testament background
00:48:02.55\00:48:03.98
is telling us,
they're telling us,
00:48:04.01\00:48:06.60
what actually the
first trumpet is about.
00:48:06.63\00:48:10.60
Actually, the judgment of God
00:48:10.63\00:48:12.64
always begins from
the household of God.
00:48:12.67\00:48:18.05
The green tree
and the green grass
00:48:18.08\00:48:22.04
stand as the
symbol for God's people.
00:48:22.07\00:48:24.87
So in our best understanding--
00:48:24.90\00:48:27.05
we have here
actually the judgment of God
00:48:27.08\00:48:30.90
upon the leaders
of the Jewish nations.
00:48:30.93\00:48:33.84
The events that
took place in AD 70
00:48:33.87\00:48:38.06
with the
destruction of Jerusalem.
00:48:38.09\00:48:39.60
Please, let me clarify it.
00:48:39.63\00:48:42.85
Yes, the first
judgment heralds--
00:48:42.88\00:48:46.40
the first trumpet heralds
00:48:46.43\00:48:47.80
the judgment up on
those of God's people
00:48:47.83\00:48:50.85
who were involved in
crucifixion of Christ
00:48:50.88\00:48:55.57
and the persecution
of the early church.
00:48:55.60\00:48:58.97
But we have to keep in mind,
00:48:59.00\00:49:01.45
many Jews, actually
they accepted Christ.
00:49:01.48\00:49:05.03
So please, we aren't
talking about the people
00:49:05.06\00:49:07.71
and to reject them and
to invent strange doctrines
00:49:07.74\00:49:11.86
about the
punishment that came upon them.
00:49:11.89\00:49:13.78
We're not talking here
simply about Jewish people.
00:49:13.81\00:49:16.17
We're talking
about the Jewish leaders.
00:49:16.20\00:49:19.12
And the minority of those
leaders who rejected Christ,
00:49:19.15\00:49:22.95
they became the
enemies of the early church.
00:49:22.98\00:49:26.11
And evidently
there were judgments
00:49:26.14\00:49:29.67
that came naturally upon them.
00:49:29.70\00:49:32.50
And the first judge--
00:49:32.53\00:49:34.60
trumpet actually
describes death judgment
00:49:34.63\00:49:38.48
that came upon
the Jewish leaders
00:49:38.51\00:49:41.94
because of their
attitude towards Christ,
00:49:41.97\00:49:43.95
rejection of Christ.
00:49:43.98\00:49:46.56
And how to say, antagonistic
attitude toward early church,
00:49:46.59\00:49:53.11
because they're
mainly responsible
00:49:53.14\00:49:54.97
for the persecution
of the early church.
00:49:55.00\00:49:57.20
Just as in the Old Testament,
00:49:57.23\00:49:59.81
God used hail and
fire as His judgment
00:49:59.84\00:50:03.00
against the enemies of Israel.
00:50:03.03\00:50:05.45
So now the sounding
of the first trumpet
00:50:05.48\00:50:08.98
actually heralds the judgment
upon those who crucified Christ.
00:50:09.01\00:50:13.58
And actually,
who were responsible
00:50:13.61\00:50:15.14
for the persecution
of those early Christians
00:50:15.17\00:50:17.70
and the early church.
00:50:17.73\00:50:19.74
But now we're going
there to the second trumpet.
00:50:19.77\00:50:23.47
And let us read
there in verse 8.
00:50:23.50\00:50:27.76
"The second angel sounded
00:50:27.79\00:50:29.50
and something
like a great mountain
00:50:29.53\00:50:31.72
burning with fire
was thrown into the sea.
00:50:31.75\00:50:34.85
And a third of
the sea became blood
00:50:34.88\00:50:38.13
and a third of the creatures
00:50:38.16\00:50:40.32
which were in
the sea had life died
00:50:40.35\00:50:43.66
and a third of the
ships were destroyed."
00:50:43.69\00:50:48.16
Boy, now what is this? We
saw about the first trumpet.
00:50:48.19\00:50:52.74
I told you that we're dealing
00:50:52.77\00:50:54.14
with very difficult section
of the Book of Revelation.
00:50:54.17\00:50:57.76
But when we have
difficult-- difficult text,
00:50:57.79\00:51:00.23
what are we supposed to
do? Go to the Old Testament.
00:51:00.26\00:51:03.37
So let's go to
the Old Testament.
00:51:03.40\00:51:05.71
What is here the key?
00:51:05.74\00:51:07.11
The key is the
burning mountain with fire
00:51:07.14\00:51:10.25
that was thrown into the sea.
00:51:10.28\00:51:12.39
Can you keep this in mind?
00:51:12.42\00:51:13.79
Let's go back to Jeremiah 51:22.
00:51:13.82\00:51:17.67
Let's go the Old
Testament. Jeremiah 51:22.
00:51:17.70\00:51:22.72
And Jeremiah
talks about Babylon.
00:51:22.75\00:51:25.66
So we're dealing with
the prophecy against Babylon
00:51:25.69\00:51:28.14
who is the
enemy of God's people.
00:51:28.17\00:51:30.03
And we read there,
"'Behold, I am against you.
00:51:30.06\00:51:33.65
O destroying mountain.'"
00:51:33.68\00:51:36.26
How does
Jeremiah refer to Babylon?
00:51:36.29\00:51:40.48
"'Destroying mountain who
destroys the whole earth,'
00:51:40.51\00:51:44.46
declares the Lord.
00:51:44.49\00:51:45.86
I will stretch out
my hand against you
00:51:45.89\00:51:48.61
and roll you
down from the crags,
00:51:48.64\00:51:50.86
I will make you a
burned out mountain."
00:51:50.89\00:51:53.51
Do you see this
concept of burned mountain
00:51:53.54\00:51:55.06
where it is taken from?
00:51:55.09\00:51:56.61
It's taken from
the Old Testament.
00:51:56.64\00:51:58.76
But then we go to
the end of chapter 51,
00:51:58.79\00:52:02.52
Jeremiah 51 and we
read verses 63 and 64.
00:52:02.55\00:52:09.11
We read there.
00:52:09.14\00:52:10.58
It's about the same prophecy
00:52:10.61\00:52:12.43
against the same world
power, against the Babylon.
00:52:12.46\00:52:16.49
"As soon as you
finish reading this scroll,"
00:52:16.52\00:52:18.71
God said to Jeremiah,
"you will tie a stone to it
00:52:18.74\00:52:22.92
and throw it into the middle
of the Euphrates. And say.
00:52:22.95\00:52:26.60
'Just so shall Babylon sink down
00:52:26.63\00:52:29.29
and not rise again
because of the calamity
00:52:29.32\00:52:32.68
that I am going
to bring upon on her,
00:52:32.71\00:52:35.72
and they will become exhausted.'
00:52:35.75\00:52:38.27
"Thus far are the
words of Jeremiah."'
00:52:38.30\00:52:42.60
You see in the Old Testament,
who is the burning mountain.
00:52:42.63\00:52:46.05
And who will be taken and
thrown into the deep water,
00:52:46.08\00:52:49.75
sink there and
will not rise again.
00:52:49.78\00:52:52.36
It's actually ancient Babylon.
00:52:52.39\00:52:56.15
So actually this
Old Testament prophecy
00:52:56.18\00:52:59.41
provides for us the clue
00:52:59.44\00:53:03.52
on the meaning of
this second trumpet.
00:53:03.55\00:53:07.51
It helps us to
unlock the symbolism
00:53:07.54\00:53:10.69
of this vision with reference
to this burning mountain
00:53:10.72\00:53:14.61
that we have in
the second trumpet.
00:53:14.64\00:53:17.67
In the time of John
in the first century,
00:53:17.70\00:53:20.53
the Christians, they
called Rome, Babylon.
00:53:20.56\00:53:25.07
By the way, if you
go to 1 Peter 5:13,
00:53:25.10\00:53:30.52
you will see that Peter
who was at that time in Rome,
00:53:30.55\00:53:33.87
he sends greetings to
Christians from Babylon.
00:53:33.90\00:53:37.54
Okay. We have to understand it.
00:53:37.57\00:53:40.21
Just as ancient
Babylon was responsible
00:53:40.24\00:53:43.86
for the persecution
of God's people Israel,
00:53:43.89\00:53:46.76
so Rome is now responsible
00:53:46.79\00:53:50.97
for the persecution
of the early church.
00:53:51.00\00:53:57.38
As judgment came up
with ancient Babylon,
00:53:57.41\00:54:01.56
so now the judgment is
announced against Rome.
00:54:01.59\00:54:06.98
Okay, looks something here
that this burning mountain,
00:54:07.01\00:54:12.05
which is evidently
Rome in the Roman Empire.
00:54:12.08\00:54:15.09
It says it will
be cast into the sea.
00:54:15.12\00:54:17.95
Is actually the sea that will
destroy this burning mountain?
00:54:17.98\00:54:22.51
I'd like to invite you to
go with me to Isaiah 57:20.
00:54:22.54\00:54:28.15
This is just one of
numerous Old Testament texts
00:54:28.18\00:54:32.51
that give us the
meaning of the sea.
00:54:32.54\00:54:35.37
It says, "But the wicked
are like the tossing sea,
00:54:35.40\00:54:40.55
for it cannot be quiet.
00:54:40.58\00:54:42.21
And its waters
toss up refuse and mud."
00:54:42.24\00:54:46.44
By the way if you go
to the Book of Revelation,
00:54:46.47\00:54:49.02
you will find out
that the prostitute Babylon
00:54:49.05\00:54:51.00
in Revelation 17
sits on many waters,
00:54:51.03\00:54:56.61
which is actually
reference to Babylon.
00:54:56.64\00:54:58.53
But in verse 15,
those many waters,
00:54:58.56\00:55:03.07
okay, are referred
to as many nations,
00:55:03.10\00:55:06.93
peoples and tongues.
00:55:06.96\00:55:08.60
So you can see in the Bible,
the roaring sea, stormy sea,
00:55:08.63\00:55:14.26
it's always
symbol for the wicked
00:55:14.29\00:55:16.50
who never have peace.
They're always rebellious.
00:55:16.53\00:55:20.47
They always fight
against God and His people.
00:55:20.50\00:55:24.13
So now we have here a
clue for what is going on.
00:55:24.16\00:55:28.94
We are talking
about the many nations
00:55:28.97\00:55:30.54
that will turn against Rome
00:55:30.57\00:55:33.18
and finally bring
Rome to destruction.
00:55:33.21\00:55:37.03
But there is
something else, it says
00:55:37.06\00:55:39.68
that what happens here
even one third of the ship
00:55:39.71\00:55:43.77
of this mountain
will be destroyed.
00:55:43.80\00:55:46.27
In the Book of
Ezekiel-- by the way,
00:55:46.30\00:55:48.74
we read in chapter
27 verses 29 and 32.
00:55:48.77\00:55:54.25
It says, "All who
handle," it's about Babylon.
00:55:54.28\00:55:58.43
"The sailors and all
the pilots of the sea
00:55:58.46\00:56:01.23
will come down from their ships.
00:56:01.26\00:56:03.71
They will stand on the land,
and they will make their voice
00:56:03.74\00:56:07.74
heard over you
and will cry bitterly.
00:56:07.77\00:56:10.38
They will cast
dust on their heads
00:56:10.41\00:56:12.69
and will wallow in ashes.
00:56:12.72\00:56:14.66
Moreover, in their wailing,
00:56:14.69\00:56:16.22
they will take up a lamentation
for you and lament over you.
00:56:16.25\00:56:19.91
"Who is like Tyre, like her
00:56:19.94\00:56:22.03
who is silent in
the midst of the sea?"
00:56:22.06\00:56:24.49
You can see how
actually the Book of Revelation
00:56:24.52\00:56:27.31
uses this Old
Testament language.
00:56:27.34\00:56:30.18
So friends in the conclusion,
00:56:30.21\00:56:32.49
what do we have in
the first two trumpets?
00:56:32.52\00:56:35.23
I'd like to mention
something that trumpets,
00:56:35.26\00:56:39.34
they always run in pairs.
00:56:39.37\00:56:43.73
The first two trumpets are
God's judgments against whom?
00:56:43.76\00:56:48.63
The two powers, the two
nations that crucified Christ,
00:56:48.66\00:56:54.86
and that were responsible
00:56:54.89\00:56:56.46
for the persecution
of the early church.
00:56:56.49\00:56:59.33
So the first and
the second trumpets.
00:56:59.36\00:57:01.96
They talk about God's judgment
00:57:01.99\00:57:03.38
against the leaders
of the Jewish nations,
00:57:03.41\00:57:06.31
not the Jewish people.
00:57:06.34\00:57:08.25
The leaders of
the Jewish nations
00:57:08.28\00:57:10.09
and also God's
judgment against Rome
00:57:10.12\00:57:12.62
that took place
in the fifth century.
00:57:12.65\00:57:14.77
So what we have here is
00:57:14.80\00:57:17.32
that the answer of
God's people are heard.
00:57:17.35\00:57:21.07
God is coming in judgment.
00:57:21.10\00:57:23.34
And God does everything
in order to vindicate,
00:57:23.37\00:57:26.88
to vindicate His people
00:57:26.91\00:57:28.56
and to bring
judgment on the enemies.
00:57:28.59\00:57:31.18
Yes, we have a powerful God.
00:57:31.21\00:57:33.85