Welcome again, to our
program that we have titled,
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"Revelation of the Coming King."
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I'm excited that
we are back here.
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And I would like to say
a few words about myself.
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I'm Professor of New Testament
at the Seventh-day Adventist
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Theological
Seminary, Andrews University.
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I have a wonderful wife.
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Yes, I'm very
young person but we-
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this year we're celebrating
our 40th anniversary. Amen.
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We have two
children, they are adults.
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But we are so glad
that we know Jesus Christ
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as our personal
Savior and that's what
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keep us moving on until the day
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when finally He
will come in glory.
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So we want to now to going
to study very interesting topic
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from the Book of Revelation.
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And I would like
to inform all of you,
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if you want to continue
this subject for yourself
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and to go deeper
understanding of this subject.
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The pages in my commentary,
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I hope that you
are able to afford
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and to provide for yourself
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a copy of my
commentary is from pages-
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from page 11
then 12, 13 and go on.
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These are the
pages that we will focus
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primarily during our studies.
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In our last study we
saw that the contents
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of the Book of Revelation
were written by means of symbol.
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I hope that you
could see how it's clearly,
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clearly specified in the book.
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Yes, we are struggling,
we are doing our best
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in order to
understand that symbol.
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But we saw some safe guidelines,
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how to deal with that symbol.
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And we saw when we
go to the Old Testament
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which is actually the main
source of the symbolic language
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of the Book of
Revelation when we go there.
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Then how suddenly
many difficult passages
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of the Book of Revelation appear
much easier to understand.
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I'm not saying that it's
always easy to interpret it.
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But we are much, much
closer to interpretation.
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And this is very important
because many Christians,
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I know I'm not
putting people down.
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We are doing our best but
many Christians unfortunately,
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when they try to interpret
the Book of Revelation,
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they use contemporary events
and little bit imagination.
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And it's interesting is,
how 10 people can produce
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15 different interpretations.
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And the problem
is that one of those
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interpretations
has anything in common.
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I'm not saying when
we follow the principles
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that we will always
agree on interpretation.
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We will agree of the
meaning of the symbol,
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but sometimes in
order to apply the meaning
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of that symbol to
the historical situation,
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sometimes we have
to wait for the future
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to reveal the meaning of that.
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But the very message
that comes out of that text
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becomes very clear to us.
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And I wanted to
mention something last time,
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so please allow me
to do it, to do it now.
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When John under the inspiration
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of the Holy Spirit
wrote down in the book
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what was shown to him
in visual presentations
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that book appealed
first went to the Jews.
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They knew the Old
Testament so well,
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so many passages, many scenes
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as we will be going
through the Book of Revelation,
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we will document it, that
you will see for yourself.
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They were very
clearly presented to them.
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The same was about Gentiles
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because the
Gentiles in the 1st Century,
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their Bible was
the Old Testament.
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But at the same time
the Book of Revelation
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reflected the lives of
those people in the 1st Century.
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So I'd like to show to
you how the Book of Revelation
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appealed to
both group of people.
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You will see very soon,
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we'll come to
Revelation Chapter 1.
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And there at
Patmos in the vision
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John had
encountered with Jesus Christ.
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The way how Jesus
Christ revealed Himself-
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revealed Himself to
John was very unusual.
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John expected to
see that man of Galilee.
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That he knew so very well,
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now before him is
the glorified Christ.
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The way how Jesus
Christ revealed Himself to John
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and the way how
John by using the word
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"like" or "as" try
also to describe it.
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Now all images taken
from the Old Testament.
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His face like
shining like a sun,
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it's taken from
the Old Testament..
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His feet-by the way if
you compare Daniel Chapter 10
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with Revelation Chapter 1,
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you will see that one and
the same heavenly messenger
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was actually Jesus
Christ Himself appeared to both.
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But then with the Gentiles read
that vision of Jesus Christ,
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keep in mind we are dealing
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with the real vision
with real Jesus Christ,
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but we are dealing
with symbolic language.
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When the Gentiles read it
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something would
come to their mind
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because in the 1st
Century, there was a goddess
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that the people in Asia
Minor worshipped so much.
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She was so well known,
she had different reflections.
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One of those reflections was
the Artemis or Diana in Ephesus,
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she had another manifestation
in different cities.
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But the main goddess was Hecate.
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Let me put it here.
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Hecate.
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And let me tell
you in just few words,
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I have it here in my commentary,
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you can find all
this information.
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In the 1st Century at the
time of the Book of Revelation,
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the Hecate was
portrayed with holding the keys.
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And the Gentiles, Pagans,
they called the key bearer.
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About her head it was,
"I'm the first and the last"
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and beneath her feet
there was an inscription,
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"I have the keys
of Death and Hades."
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The Gentiles spoke about Hecate,
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how she was in
heaven but she communicated
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with human beings by
sending her angel to them.
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Let me ask you,
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all that language
that I'm mentioning to you,
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does it look familiar to you?
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What, why John under inspiration
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of the Holy
Spirit uses that language
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that Pagans could
connect to Hecate to tell them.
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You believe that
Hecate is the savior
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that she has the
keys of Death and Hades,
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that she is the first
and the last, but she is not.
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It's Jesus
Christ because by virtue
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of His death on the
cross and His resurrection-
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He won the victory over death
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and He is your
only hope not Hecate.
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Are you still with me?
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In order to
fight the pagan ideas,
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he used their
language that they understand
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but that message is taken-
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that language is taken
from the Old Testament.
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Praise God, He
understand the human situation
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and He speaks to
us in the language
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that we can understand,
that language is imperfect,
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but that language works for us.
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But now we are
confronted with one question.
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If the Book of
Revelation clearly specifies
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how it was written.
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And we have the
guidelines from the very book,
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how that language
to be interpreted.
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Then why do we have
so many people interpret
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the Book of
Revelation in different way.
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Not only that, I'm not
talking just about individuals,
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I'm talking about the mass
of Christians, it's a group.
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They hold one
opinion, another opinion.
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Let me just tell you the problem
are about presuppositions.
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We are actually talking
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about four major approaches
to the Book of Revelation
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that are based on
certain presuppositions.
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So we see
presuppositions is important.
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When we take the Bible,
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I must have
some presuppositions.
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What are the presuppositions?
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That for instance the
Bible is the word of God.
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I must have that presupposition.
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I must have presupposition
that the Book of Revelation
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is a symbolic
book, this is important.
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But we are dealing
here with something else.
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So four
approaches, some people call it
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the four schools of
prophetic interpretation.
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So please allow me to
describe those schools
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and I hope that also our
viewers will be able to test
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these four approaches
and say is this really,
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is this approach
really according to dictation
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that God had when
He gave us this book.
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Okay, so please allow me, I
will put here on this board.
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I will go one
after one, the first-
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the first method or approach
is called the preterist method.
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The preterist method of
the prophetic interpretation.
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What is this method?
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What is this method all about?
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The word "preterist" comes
from the Latin word preterist,
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see if you take
these three letters-
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if you take out, you
simply have the word "preter"
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and preter is Latin
and simply means past,
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p- a-s-t, past.
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So why do we call
this approach Preterism
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and the people who
practice this approach,
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why do we call them preterist?
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What is the
teaching, what is that really?
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We are dealing with
presuppositions that they have.
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You see the preterist,
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they believe that
John the Revelator,
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he wrote his book
exclusively for his time.
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Please every word
that I mention here
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is very important is one-
let me repeat one more time.
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They believe that
John the Revelator,
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he wrote his book
exclusively for the 1st Century,
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for his own time,
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for the
Christians of his own time.
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May I ask you a question?
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Is this wrong or correct?
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Let me go on.
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They believed
that Revelation address
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the situation of
the Christian church
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in the Roman province of
Asia, in the 1st Century.
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Please now you
have to be with me.
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Can you turn to
Revelation Chapter 1?
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Please I want to
challenge you a little bit.
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Let's read verse 11.
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We hear he even glorified Christ
appeared to John in Patmos.
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Now He commissions John
the Revelator, telling him.
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Chapter 1 verse 11
saying, "Write in the book
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what you see and send
it to the seven churches
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to Ephesus and to Smyrna
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and to Pergamum and
to Thyatira and to Sardis
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and to
Philadelphia and to Laodicea."
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Do anything about these cities.
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Very soon, we will go from
one to another of these cities.
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See, there were all the cities
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in the 1st Century
during the time of John.
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So let me ask you something.
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Please you have to help me
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and my question is very
tricky including you viewers.
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Are preterist wrong?
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Let me put in this way, yes.
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According to the
Book of Revelation,
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the Book of Revelation-
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I just want to repeat
the concluding sentence
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from our previous presentation.
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The Book of
Revelation was originally
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written to those Christians.
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But what is the
problem of Preterism?
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I think you mentioned
it, is the word exclusively.
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They believed that
the Book of Revelation
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was written just not only
to them but just for them.
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So when they read
the Book of Revelation,
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they simply try to see
how the Book of Revelation
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spoke to the
Christians of the 1st Century.
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But there is no step further.
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We are dealing
with presuppositions.
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People who are preterist,
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they're usually
secular scholars.
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They don't believe in
this inspiration of the Bible.
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And they said that
the Book of Revelation
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does not contain
any predictive prophecy.
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They believe in prophecies,
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but not predictive prophecies.
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The purpose of the
book was rather to provide
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the hope and
encouragement for the church
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facing impending persecution
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but in Imperial
Rome in John's name.
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Let me just illustrate.
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You know the time of John.
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There was a
persecution of Christians.
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So the Romans who
summoned all the Christians
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before the statue of the emperor
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and asking them to offer
an incense before the emperor.
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So when you offer the incense,
they will give a certificate,
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and you can do your business,
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and you can freely
live as Roman citizen.
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If you don't do it, it
means that you're destined
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to ruin your life
and you cannot take.
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So how do preterist interpreted?
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They say, you see this
is the mark of the beast.
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What is the
problem with Preterism?
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The main problem is they have
a secular approach to the Bible.
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And they say the
Book of Revelation
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should be
started scientifically,
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this is usually the
language that they're using.
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The Book of Revelation
was written exclusively
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for the 1st Century Christians.
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And please allow me,
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when they started
the Book of Revelation
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they had the same
approach as people are studying
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Shakespeare or
Greek classical authors.
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By the way we will come
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little bit
later to this problem.
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And we will see about what
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Book of Revelation
is really telling us.
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We saw that the Book of
Revelation makes very clear,
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it was written to the
Christians of the 1s t Century.
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But keep in mind, it was
not written only for them.
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You will see it in few moments.
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Another approach
which is actually
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the twin sister in
many ways of Preterism
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or twin brother, sorry.
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It's Idealism.
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Many idealists are
basically preterist.
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And this method does not see
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any historical
significance of John's vision.
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Keep in mind
historical significance,
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they don't see any
historical significance.
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Well, they say that
the Book of Revelation
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contains a symbolic description
of the ongoing struggle
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between good and evil,
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which cannot be applied to any
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historical time
and period or place.
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The symbols of
the book do not refer
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to any specific
event in history.
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You see, the idealist method
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is actually based on the
preterist presuppositions.
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You see, they see
and they put those stress
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on the timeless
ethical truth and principles
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that apply to
believers at any time
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and place in history rather
than historical occurrences.
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Let me illustrate it.
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They say, you
know, the John Revelator,
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wrote in the 1st
Century about Babylon.
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He meant Rome
in the 1st Century.
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But then you ask, why do
you read the Book of Revelation.
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The preterist would say,
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it's because we want
to see how the Christians
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in the 1st Century
believed about God, that's all.
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But according to idealism,
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you see, next
generation of Christians
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faced Rome or
Babylon in their own time.
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Today you have family problems,
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you have problems at work,
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you are suffering
because of terrible illness,
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that's your Babylon.
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And it's the Book
of Revelation provided
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the hope and encouragement
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to the Christians
in the 1st Century
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telling them that Babylon
or Rome will come to its end.
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So you have that promise
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that God will also
bring your Babylon to its end.
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Are they correct or wrong?
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Yeah, we can really take any
visual of the Book of Revelation
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and trying the
spiritual message that is to us.
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But to say that
the Book of Revelation
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does not contain prophecy
and that those prophecies,
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they cannot apply to any
historical time or the place.
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That's against the very nature
of the Book of Revelation.
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When we read in
verse 3 of chapter 1,
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it makes very clear that
this is the word of prophecy.
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The conclusion on
the book also telling us
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that the book was sent to us
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to be the prophetic word
of God sent to our hearts.
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Are you still with me?
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So this approach, as
a person who believes
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in despise the word of
God should be discarded.
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Without denying yes,
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but there is a timeless truth
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in every vision of
the Book of Revelation.
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Are you still with me?
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The third approach,
we call it futurism.
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Sorry I would
like to change this,
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I would like to put everything
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in the same way
so idealist, okay.
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So let's put it preterist.
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Ah sorry.
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It's futurist.
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You see while Preterism
limits the significance
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in the meaning of
the Book of Revelation
00:20:08.40\00:20:10.71
just for the 1st Century
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and exclusively
to the 1st Century.
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Futurism goes to
completely different extreme.
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And futurists are
divided among themselves.
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The extreme futurists,
00:20:23.16\00:20:24.53
they say the
entire Book of Revelation
00:20:24.56\00:20:27.39
from chapter 1 to chapter 22.
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Everything is about the future
00:20:30.37\00:20:33.64
before the
second coming of Christ.
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Today futurists generally,
00:20:36.91\00:20:40.50
the majority of futurists
they say no the message
00:20:40.53\00:20:43.85
is for seven
churches were originally sent
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to those Christians
of the time of John.
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But this is very important is,
00:20:50.82\00:20:52.87
but everything what
from Revelation 4:1.
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Everything from
Revelation chapter 4
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until the end of
the Book of Revelation
00:21:00.23\00:21:02.36
describes end time events
that would take place right,
00:21:02.39\00:21:09.69
right before the
second coming of Christ.
00:21:09.72\00:21:13.81
Does make sense
with the translate.
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So what is the problem?
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Please, I like now
that you be with me.
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Preterist, it
goes to one extreme.
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Puts the Book of Revelation
everything in the past.
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The Book of Revelation is
not relevant to the Christians
00:21:31.93\00:21:35.33
who live today or the Christians
00:21:35.36\00:21:36.98
who lived 500 years
ago or 1000 years ago.
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Everything is
about the 1st Century.
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What about futurism.
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They put the significance
00:21:46.56\00:21:48.16
and the relevance of
the Book of Revelation
00:21:48.19\00:21:51.16
only for the last
generation Christians.
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The events that would take place
00:21:55.57\00:21:57.06
right before the
second coming of Christ.
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The Book of Revelation
does not have any relevance
00:21:59.73\00:22:02.56
to the
Christians who lived before.
00:22:02.59\00:22:06.53
And this is the problem,
this is the problem, please.
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I want to
explain something else.
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If you are a futurist.
00:22:15.61\00:22:18.93
Now, you have to
follow certain logic,
00:22:18.96\00:22:20.64
we're dealing
with presuppositions.
00:22:20.67\00:22:22.58
If you're
futurist and you believe
00:22:22.61\00:22:27.81
that the entire
Book of Revelation
00:22:27.84\00:22:29.76
or at least chapters 4 to 22,
00:22:29.79\00:22:32.43
it's strictly about
the time of the end,
00:22:32.46\00:22:35.01
short time before the
second coming of Christ.
00:22:35.04\00:22:37.73
But see when you
try to apply that method
00:22:37.76\00:22:41.76
to the Book of Revelation,
00:22:41.79\00:22:43.37
you come into certain problems.
00:22:43.40\00:22:46.76
For instance, you go to
those time designations,
00:22:46.79\00:22:53.56
time periods in
the Book of Revelation
00:22:53.59\00:22:55.84
on the base of the
information that we got before
00:22:55.87\00:22:59.13
is that the Book of
Revelation is a symbolic book.
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It also includes
those time periods.
00:23:02.07\00:23:05.39
But you see, if
you take futurism
00:23:05.42\00:23:09.80
as your method
of interpretation,
00:23:09.83\00:23:12.09
try to put all those events
00:23:12.12\00:23:16.70
right before the
second coming of Christ.
00:23:16.73\00:23:20.22
That symbolism does not work.
00:23:20.25\00:23:23.95
Because you must
take 1000 for instance,
00:23:23.98\00:23:27.14
260 days or 42 months or time,
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times two times and half time.
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You have to take
it in a literal way
00:23:32.98\00:23:35.09
as you put it symbolic day,
00:23:35.12\00:23:37.59
year principle
then it doesn't work.
00:23:37.62\00:23:40.35
And this is actually
what futurists are struggling
00:23:40.38\00:23:43.33
because when you take
those time designations
00:23:43.36\00:23:47.53
and apply them
literally nothing fits.
00:23:47.56\00:23:51.66
And on course
there is a stretching,
00:23:51.69\00:23:53.78
there is
different way trying somehow
00:23:53.81\00:23:56.07
to apply it to those events
00:23:56.10\00:23:59.05
and to the time short before
the second coming of Christ.
00:23:59.08\00:24:03.02
So in order to understand it
00:24:03.05\00:24:05.47
is that actually futurism takes
00:24:05.50\00:24:09.20
a very literal approach
to the Book of Revelation,
00:24:09.23\00:24:12.61
but in order to be fair
futurists will never say
00:24:12.64\00:24:16.09
that there will be two beasts
coming out of the sea etcetera.
00:24:16.12\00:24:19.31
They take it symbolically, okay.
00:24:19.34\00:24:21.95
But whenever and
wherever they're able to take
00:24:21.98\00:24:27.22
a literal approach
that they're doing it.
00:24:27.25\00:24:30.41
So for instance,
the river Euphrates,
00:24:30.44\00:24:34.68
it's a literal river.
00:24:34.71\00:24:39.32
It's the place
where the final battle
00:24:39.35\00:24:40.93
that would take place.
00:24:40.96\00:24:42.33
That's why the
near east and Palestine,
00:24:42.36\00:24:44.67
they're in those events are
very important for futurism.
00:24:44.70\00:24:48.03
For instance 144,000
it's a literal number
00:24:48.06\00:24:53.35
but not only literal number is,
00:24:53.38\00:24:55.71
that the 12 tribes
of Israel mentioned
00:24:55.74\00:24:58.43
in the Revelation
7 are literal tribes.
00:24:58.46\00:25:02.45
And for- for futurists
00:25:02.48\00:25:04.46
unfortunately
there are some futurists
00:25:04.49\00:25:08.55
who try to practice futurism
00:25:08.58\00:25:10.44
but they see the problem
with literal tribes of Israel.
00:25:10.47\00:25:13.46
They are not
antecedents in organize,
00:25:13.49\00:25:14.91
they try to avoid it but
then there is no consistency.
00:25:14.94\00:25:19.39
When something fit to my
interpretation then its literal,
00:25:19.42\00:25:23.06
when it does not
fit then it's symbolic.
00:25:23.09\00:25:25.78
And this is
usually how- how it works.
00:25:25.81\00:25:31.02
Actually if you want to
understand about futurism-
00:25:31.05\00:25:33.54
I'm talking with
full respect about people.
00:25:33.57\00:25:35.86
Just to recognize it
that this is the method
00:25:35.89\00:25:38.49
of prophetic interpretation
of protestant evangelicals.
00:25:38.52\00:25:42.20
We're dealing with
million and million
00:25:42.23\00:25:44.04
very good
Christians in North America.
00:25:44.07\00:25:46.61
The secret rupture idea is
based on the futurist ideas.
00:25:46.64\00:25:53.38
The main point of
futurism is they are concerned
00:25:53.41\00:25:56.90
about the events in Middle East.
00:25:56.93\00:25:59.19
And what is going on
because when they believe
00:25:59.22\00:26:01.77
about 12 tribes of Israel
00:26:01.80\00:26:04.11
and everything will take place
00:26:04.14\00:26:05.69
about Jerusalem
and about the temple.
00:26:05.72\00:26:07.72
Then you know
the presuppositions
00:26:07.75\00:26:10.16
that actually this
approach is based on.
00:26:10.19\00:26:15.00
Okay, just to be informed.
00:26:15.03\00:26:19.63
I want to- sorry.
00:26:19.66\00:26:24.22
The fourth approach,
it's called historists.
00:26:24.25\00:26:31.43
It's the historist,
it's the historist approach.
00:26:39.56\00:26:43.44
Let me explain
00:26:43.47\00:26:46.66
the
presuppositions of historism.
00:26:46.69\00:26:49.55
The historist
approach is to view the beliefs
00:26:49.58\00:26:54.99
that the Book of Revelation
00:26:55.02\00:26:56.39
provides in a
symbolic presentation,
00:26:56.42\00:26:59.18
the prophetic outline
of the huge course of-
00:26:59.21\00:27:04.04
future course of history.
00:27:04.07\00:27:05.87
From the apostolic times
until the time of the end.
00:27:05.90\00:27:09.91
So please, let me
show something to you.
00:27:09.94\00:27:13.52
See while Preterism
limits the Book of Revelation
00:27:13.55\00:27:17.85
just for the 1st centuries,
exclusive to the 1st Century.
00:27:17.88\00:27:20.65
Futurism trust with
the time of the end.
00:27:20.68\00:27:24.05
Idealism denies any
historical application
00:27:24.08\00:27:27.49
of the Book of Revelation to
any period or point in history.
00:27:27.52\00:27:32.49
Historism will tell us,
00:27:32.52\00:27:34.16
yes the Book of Revelation
spoke to the Christians
00:27:34.19\00:27:38.23
and applies to the
Christians in the 1st Century.
00:27:38.26\00:27:41.83
Yes, they're many things
in the Book of Revelation,
00:27:41.86\00:27:46.31
they are relevant to the
last generation of Christians.
00:27:46.34\00:27:50.57
And they speak about the time
00:27:50.60\00:27:52.34
before the time of the end.
00:27:52.37\00:27:54.81
But historism also say,
that there are many events,
00:27:54.84\00:27:58.87
many prophecies of
the Book of Revelation
00:27:58.90\00:28:02.14
that portray the
events in the world
00:28:02.17\00:28:04.46
from the 1st Century
until the time of the end.
00:28:04.49\00:28:09.75
So let's just- I
just want to tell you
00:28:09.78\00:28:13.73
historism is not
compatible with Preterism
00:28:13.76\00:28:17.23
because Preterism denies
00:28:17.26\00:28:20.03
the predictive character
of the Book of Revelation.
00:28:20.06\00:28:24.60
Historism is based on that-
00:28:24.63\00:28:27.82
the Book of Revelation
contains the prophecy.
00:28:27.85\00:28:31.83
You see, historism
cannot comply with futurism
00:28:31.86\00:28:36.15
because futurism
limits the meaning
00:28:36.18\00:28:38.84
of Book of Revelation
strictly to the time of the end.
00:28:38.87\00:28:42.54
That's why I want to
tell you that I'm historicist,
00:28:42.57\00:28:49.56
because
historism is the approach,
00:28:49.59\00:28:53.36
is the only approach
that makes the book relevant
00:28:53.39\00:28:56.65
to the Christians
in the 1st Century,
00:28:56.68\00:28:59.25
those who lived
after the 1st century
00:28:59.28\00:29:01.85
all through the centuries
until our time today and also-
00:29:01.88\00:29:08.39
see the relevance of
the Book of Revelation
00:29:08.42\00:29:10.98
also to the last
generation of Christians.
00:29:11.01\00:29:13.67
I believe that we are that
last generation of Christians.
00:29:13.70\00:29:18.03
So it applies to our
time in which they live.
00:29:18.06\00:29:22.55
Okay, historism
takes a symbolic approach
00:29:22.58\00:29:27.14
to the Book of Revelation.
00:29:27.17\00:29:28.54
So when we talked last
time about the symbolic language
00:29:28.57\00:29:31.39
of the Book of
Revelation it applies.
00:29:31.42\00:29:33.84
So historism say,
yeah the Book of Revelation
00:29:33.87\00:29:36.80
is given to John and through
John to us by means of symbol.
00:29:36.83\00:29:41.50
This is the primary language
of the Book of Revelation
00:29:41.53\00:29:44.89
unless the
context indicates clearly
00:29:44.92\00:29:47.87
that the literal
language is applied there.
00:29:47.90\00:29:52.90
Historism believes
that all those events
00:29:52.93\00:29:56.15
predicted in the Book of
Revelation are real events,
00:29:56.18\00:30:00.73
real places and real systems.
00:30:00.76\00:30:06.47
Take place through history
and also at the time of the end.
00:30:06.50\00:30:10.24
However, they were shown
to John by means of symbol.
00:30:10.27\00:30:17.36
Okay, so these are
those four approaches.
00:30:17.39\00:30:19.86
You will notice something
00:30:19.89\00:30:21.70
and this is the
lesson that we learn.
00:30:21.73\00:30:24.09
How people can
take one presupposition,
00:30:24.12\00:30:27.73
one idea and say
this is what I believe
00:30:27.76\00:30:32.27
and what they believe the
idea that they take impacts
00:30:32.30\00:30:36.18
the entire interpretation
of the Book of Revelation.
00:30:36.21\00:30:39.50
And I just want to
tell you something,
00:30:39.53\00:30:40.90
I want to be very fair
that so many times the people,
00:30:40.93\00:30:44.13
even who follow this
approach I'm historicist.
00:30:44.16\00:30:46.83
This is the method and my
church practices this method
00:30:46.86\00:30:50.68
and I'm so happy that
practicing this method
00:30:50.71\00:30:53.67
we can get the real meaning
from the Book of Revelation
00:30:53.70\00:30:56.74
as God intended to be.
00:30:56.77\00:30:58.22
But sometimes people can
have different presuppositions,
00:30:58.25\00:31:01.78
even practicing historicism
00:31:01.81\00:31:03.94
in order to reach
certain conclusions
00:31:03.97\00:31:06.07
trying to mix historicism
00:31:06.10\00:31:08.61
either with futurism
or idealism or Preterism.
00:31:08.64\00:31:11.84
It's very dangerous thing.
00:31:11.87\00:31:14.08
We cannot base
our interpretation
00:31:14.11\00:31:16.46
of the Book of Revelation on
presuppositions what we have.
00:31:16.49\00:31:19.36
We have to take the
text and ask ourselves,
00:31:19.39\00:31:21.72
Lord what was your
intention when you inspired
00:31:21.75\00:31:26.83
John the Revelator
to write this text.
00:31:26.86\00:31:30.11
So please, we have some time
left you can help to be with me.
00:31:30.14\00:31:36.19
Yeah, people can
disagree and you can say,
00:31:36.22\00:31:38.87
yeah, you see
I've just explained.
00:31:38.90\00:31:40.66
And this is what you are
00:31:40.69\00:31:42.77
and that's why you believe
that the Book of Revelation
00:31:42.80\00:31:45.83
should be
interpreted in that way.
00:31:45.86\00:31:48.13
By the way, in the
course of our seminar
00:31:48.16\00:31:52.02
and the series that we have,
00:31:52.05\00:31:54.30
we will test regularly
all these four reviews.
00:31:54.33\00:31:58.59
So the viewers,
you'll be able to test
00:31:58.62\00:32:01.29
the content of
the Book of Revelation
00:32:01.32\00:32:03.52
and to see which one of
these approaches is correct.
00:32:03.55\00:32:07.67
But then I'd like
us to take the time
00:32:07.70\00:32:11.33
that is left for
this presentation.
00:32:11.36\00:32:14.75
And ask
ourselves some questions.
00:32:14.78\00:32:18.51
Is this method correct?
00:32:18.54\00:32:23.08
I'd like to, that you turn
with me to Revelation Chapter 1,
00:32:23.11\00:32:27.89
I know that
you're already there.
00:32:27.92\00:32:29.29
We are still in
that first chapter.
00:32:29.32\00:32:34.81
And we'll see in the
second part of this chapter
00:32:34.84\00:32:42.68
that Jesus Christ as we
explained already appeared
00:32:44.78\00:32:48.18
to John there on Patmos.
00:32:48.21\00:32:51.68
So in their
conclusion of that encounter,
00:32:51.71\00:32:56.42
John had with Jesus Christ,
00:32:56.45\00:32:58.55
Jesus now
commissions John again.
00:32:58.58\00:33:01.20
You remember in verse 11,
00:33:01.23\00:33:02.60
He commissioned him to
write to those seven churches
00:33:02.63\00:33:05.19
but then He commissions
in the following verse.
00:33:05.22\00:33:07.50
It's verse 19, verse 19,
00:33:07.53\00:33:11.72
"Therefore write the things
00:33:11.75\00:33:15.40
which you have seen,
and the things which are,
00:33:15.43\00:33:21.82
and the things which will
take place after these things."
00:33:21.85\00:33:28.60
Please I would like to ask you
00:33:28.63\00:33:30.05
that you look
carefully here in this text.
00:33:30.08\00:33:34.61
Because we have here
something very, very important
00:33:34.64\00:33:38.17
for the understanding
of the general content
00:33:38.20\00:33:41.04
of the Book of Revelation
because Jesus' commission
00:33:41.07\00:33:43.37
John telling
him, "Therefore John
00:33:43.40\00:33:47.00
write the things
which you have seen."
00:33:47.03\00:33:50.76
The biblical
commentators are divide
00:33:50.79\00:33:54.91
about this thing
what you have here.
00:33:54.94\00:33:58.76
What are the
things that John had seen?
00:33:58.79\00:34:02.78
Some scholars they
think that what have John,
00:34:02.81\00:34:05.52
what John just had seen
00:34:05.55\00:34:07.81
it's actually the
vision of Jesus Christ.
00:34:07.84\00:34:10.83
Is it possible?
Yeah. It is possible.
00:34:10.86\00:34:14.64
I hold different view
00:34:14.67\00:34:17.69
with full
respect to those people
00:34:17.72\00:34:19.11
and may be they're correct,
00:34:19.14\00:34:20.60
is that actually
Jesus said to John,
00:34:20.63\00:34:23.67
write the things
which you have seen
00:34:23.70\00:34:26.19
and actually at that
point John saw all the content
00:34:26.22\00:34:30.25
of the Book of
Revelation that was before him.
00:34:30.28\00:34:32.69
And now you have to put a comma,
it works in Greek perfectly.
00:34:32.72\00:34:36.65
The things that
you have seen namely,
00:34:36.68\00:34:39.43
the things which
are and the things
00:34:39.46\00:34:42.56
that will take
place after these things.
00:34:42.59\00:34:45.02
Are you still with me?
00:34:45.05\00:34:46.42
So the things which are
00:34:46.45\00:34:47.92
and the things that will
take place after these things
00:34:47.95\00:34:51.01
are the things
that John have seen.
00:34:51.04\00:34:52.90
This is not
really too big a deal.
00:34:52.93\00:34:56.16
When people tell me
I disagree with that,
00:34:56.19\00:34:58.57
I respect them because they have
as strong arguments as I have.
00:34:58.60\00:35:03.30
Even though, I
call the second part,
00:35:03.33\00:35:04.70
I think it's more logical.
00:35:04.73\00:35:06.24
But still you
know, it's not big deal.
00:35:06.27\00:35:09.01
But the big deal is that
Jesus made very clear to John
00:35:09.04\00:35:13.86
that there are
two kind of things,
00:35:13.89\00:35:16.24
that John saw in the
vision what kind of things.
00:35:16.27\00:35:18.79
The things which are,
this is how also it's in Greek.
00:35:18.82\00:35:24.25
What tense is this?
00:35:24.28\00:35:26.99
The things which
are- it's a present tense.
00:35:27.02\00:35:29.70
When Jesus said to
John, "The things which are",
00:35:29.73\00:35:33.22
what does it mean?
00:35:33.25\00:35:36.01
It's time about
the time of John.
00:35:36.04\00:35:39.29
Okay. But then
Jesus said to John,
00:35:39.32\00:35:42.45
you know, I will show you also-
00:35:42.48\00:35:44.26
you have also to
write about the things
00:35:44.29\00:35:46.18
that will take
place after these things,
00:35:46.21\00:35:49.16
okay, one more time.
00:35:49.19\00:35:50.56
If you say the things which are
00:35:50.59\00:35:52.30
and the thing
that will take place
00:35:52.33\00:35:53.75
after these
things, which things?
00:35:53.78\00:35:55.52
After the things which are.
00:35:55.55\00:35:57.49
Now there is a question.
00:35:57.52\00:35:59.43
What are the things which are?
00:35:59.46\00:36:03.50
I would like to suggest to you
00:36:03.53\00:36:05.31
that they are primarily
the messages to seven churches,
00:36:05.34\00:36:07.59
but please we will come to
messages to seven churches,
00:36:07.62\00:36:09.77
don't reach any conclusion.
00:36:09.80\00:36:11.72
You will see that
those messages are relevant,
00:36:11.75\00:36:13.69
they are prophecies.
00:36:13.72\00:36:15.09
But they were
originally and primarily sent
00:36:15.12\00:36:18.29
to the Christians
of the time of John.
00:36:18.32\00:36:20.00
They have
prophetic significance,
00:36:20.03\00:36:21.54
we will come to that.
00:36:21.57\00:36:24.35
But now, I would like
you to turn your Bible
00:36:24.38\00:36:26.98
to Revelation
4:1. Revelation 4:1.
00:36:27.01\00:36:32.86
Keep in mind
the things which are
00:36:32.89\00:36:35.82
and the things
which will take place
00:36:35.85\00:36:37.97
after the things which are.
00:36:38.00\00:36:39.49
Now, chapter 4, verse 1,
00:36:39.52\00:36:42.94
"After these things
I looked, and behold,
00:36:42.97\00:36:48.84
a door standing in heaven.
00:36:48.87\00:36:52.28
and the first
voice which I had heard."
00:36:52.31\00:36:55.62
What was the first
voice that John heard?
00:36:55.65\00:36:57.67
The voice of Jesus
in chapter 1, okay.
00:36:57.70\00:37:00.24
"Like the sound of a trumpet
00:37:00.27\00:37:02.43
speaking with me,
said, "come up here.
00:37:02.46\00:37:06.85
And I will show you what must
take place after these things."
00:37:06.88\00:37:13.48
Greek meta-touta,
it's the same expression
00:37:13.51\00:37:18.17
that is found
in Revelation 1:19.
00:37:18.20\00:37:20.57
Are you with me?
00:37:20.60\00:37:22.47
Jesus said to
John, write what things
00:37:22.50\00:37:25.69
that are and the things
00:37:25.72\00:37:27.60
that will take
place after these things.
00:37:27.63\00:37:29.65
Now, John saw the
messages for seven churches.
00:37:29.68\00:37:32.45
Now, Jesus is telling him.
00:37:32.48\00:37:34.10
I will now show you what will
take place after these things.
00:37:34.13\00:37:37.98
So please, now
you have to help me.
00:37:38.01\00:37:39.90
Preterits, they say
that the Book of Revelation
00:37:39.93\00:37:44.28
simply about the time of John.
00:37:44.31\00:37:47.55
Does that presupposition,
00:37:47.58\00:37:49.52
does it feel
fit into the context
00:37:49.55\00:37:51.36
of the Book of Revelation?
00:37:51.39\00:37:52.86
Revelation 4:1, tell us clearly
00:37:52.89\00:37:59.72
that what Jesus was
about to show to John
00:37:59.75\00:38:02.65
goes beyond 1st Century.
00:38:02.68\00:38:08.40
Yeah, the things will take
place after the time of John,
00:38:08.43\00:38:12.58
so you see
preterits are not correct.
00:38:12.61\00:38:17.71
And my friends futurist,
they will say, "Amen" to that.
00:38:17.74\00:38:24.56
Unfortunately I don't believe
that they are correct as well
00:38:24.59\00:38:28.64
because they say now
from chapter 4, verse 1,
00:38:28.67\00:38:32.09
it's about the
second coming of Christ.
00:38:32.12\00:38:34.94
Actually see here in the
text what Jesus says to John,
00:38:34.97\00:38:39.17
I will show you
what will take place.
00:38:39.20\00:38:41.20
When?
00:38:41.23\00:38:42.91
After the seven churches.
00:38:42.94\00:38:46.09
Are you still with me, friends?
00:38:46.12\00:38:48.54
It suits simply about
the second coming of Christ.
00:38:48.57\00:38:52.38
Those events they
must start taking place
00:38:52.41\00:38:55.66
after the time of
John, going through history,
00:38:55.69\00:38:59.80
leading to the time of the end
00:38:59.83\00:39:01.80
and finally to
describe about those events
00:39:01.83\00:39:04.48
that will take place
about of the time to end.
00:39:04.51\00:39:06.94
You see friends, we
are not dealing here
00:39:06.97\00:39:08.66
about three
presuppositions are wrong.
00:39:08.69\00:39:13.61
And I am at this because
I believe this is correct.
00:39:13.64\00:39:16.72
See, we have to go the
very Book of Revelation
00:39:16.75\00:39:20.08
and to test those views.
00:39:20.11\00:39:23.41
Because the presupposition
that I take, I can justify it
00:39:23.44\00:39:28.85
the correctness of
the presupposition,
00:39:28.88\00:39:30.67
I can believe that the
presupposition is correct.
00:39:30.70\00:39:33.33
The question is, does
it match with the purpose
00:39:33.36\00:39:37.38
and the intention of
the Book of Revelation?
00:39:37.41\00:39:40.11
We have to test every view
00:39:40.14\00:39:43.26
what the Book of
Revelation is telling us.
00:39:43.29\00:39:46.42
How actually this
book and how those visions
00:39:46.45\00:39:49.72
should be interpreted.
00:39:49.75\00:39:51.27
Does it make sense to you?
00:39:51.30\00:39:52.67
So let me now suggest to you.
00:39:52.70\00:39:55.66
And after that I will
conclude with beautiful message
00:39:55.69\00:39:58.59
going back to our
first presentation
00:39:58.62\00:40:00.75
that I have as result
what I now present to you
00:40:00.78\00:40:04.26
came this commentary known
as Revelation of Jesus Christ
00:40:04.29\00:40:08.59
or the Revelation
of the Coming King.
00:40:08.62\00:40:10.42
So let me share with you, I
would like to suggest to you.
00:40:10.45\00:40:13.44
On based of the
historicist approach,
00:40:13.47\00:40:16.88
the structure of
the Book of Revelation
00:40:16.91\00:40:19.13
is actually justified
by the content of the book.
00:40:19.16\00:40:24.22
Okay, I will not
write anything there.
00:40:27.11\00:40:30.06
When you read the Book of
Revelation from first chapter
00:40:30.09\00:40:35.06
you will notice that
there are several parts
00:40:35.09\00:40:38.63
in the book they're
little bit different.
00:40:38.66\00:40:44.13
And actually there is a
natural line of division
00:40:44.16\00:40:47.15
between those parts.
00:40:47.18\00:40:48.55
Now, let me
invite you something.
00:40:48.58\00:40:50.26
When you read the Book
of Revelation carefully,
00:40:50.29\00:40:53.82
what is the first and the
most obvious part of this book.
00:40:53.85\00:40:59.88
By the way I would
like to invite the viewers
00:40:59.91\00:41:03.47
that what I'm now presenting,
00:41:03.50\00:41:05.60
it's found in my commentary
00:41:05.63\00:41:08.88
from page 40 to page 43.
00:41:08.91\00:41:15.13
Okay, please
study more for yourself.
00:41:15.16\00:41:17.19
We just want to cover this topic
00:41:17.22\00:41:19.48
in the time that is left to us.
00:41:19.51\00:41:21.34
But you have now to help me.
00:41:21.37\00:41:24.54
What is the first
and the most obvious part
00:41:24.57\00:41:28.43
of the Book of
Revelation that is different
00:41:28.46\00:41:30.43
from the rest of the book.
00:41:30.46\00:41:32.30
The messages to seven churches.
00:41:32.33\00:41:34.92
You will notice we
have- not seven letters
00:41:34.95\00:41:37.22
we will talk about
that there was one letter
00:41:37.25\00:41:39.27
with seven messages to
send to those congregations.
00:41:39.30\00:41:43.30
The language is
very straight forward,
00:41:43.33\00:41:47.02
there is no too much symbol.
00:41:47.05\00:41:48.77
Here and there,
there are some symbol
00:41:48.80\00:41:50.34
but its natural
symbol easy to understand.
00:41:50.37\00:41:53.90
Okay. So, we are dealing
with the first three chapters
00:41:53.93\00:41:57.01
of the Book of
Revelation for the purpose
00:41:57.04\00:41:59.27
to make it easier to memorize.
00:41:59.30\00:42:01.53
If you want
correctly Revelation 1:9
00:42:01.56\00:42:04.92
to the end of chapter 3.
00:42:04.95\00:42:06.67
This is the first major division
00:42:06.70\00:42:08.68
and you have it
there in front of yourself.
00:42:08.71\00:42:11.98
Okay. So, this is the first one.
00:42:12.01\00:42:13.68
We saw that those things
are the things which are-
00:42:13.71\00:42:18.43
you see, those
messages were written
00:42:18.46\00:42:21.55
in the prophetic style
but written as letters.
00:42:21.58\00:42:25.47
Okay, as letters.
00:42:25.50\00:42:28.53
Language is very
easy to understand.
00:42:28.56\00:42:31.59
They are written
primarily to the time of John,
00:42:31.62\00:42:34.66
but we will come
to that next time.
00:42:34.69\00:42:36.68
We will see at
that those messages
00:42:36.71\00:42:38.18
they have a great
prophetic significance,
00:42:38.21\00:42:40.51
I want to make
it very, very clear.
00:42:40.54\00:42:42.30
We will come to that.
00:42:42.33\00:42:44.44
Now, let's go,
next step number two is.
00:42:44.47\00:42:48.86
What will be the
next major division
00:42:48.89\00:42:53.19
of the Book of Revelation
00:42:53.22\00:42:54.59
that comes after the
messages of seven churches?
00:42:54.62\00:42:59.72
Actually it's from
chapter 4 to verse 11.
00:42:59.75\00:43:03.65
When you go to chapter
12, you see it's different,
00:43:03.68\00:43:06.50
you have a new beginning,
00:43:06.53\00:43:07.90
bringing us to
the brand new sections
00:43:07.93\00:43:09.95
of the Book of Revelation
that somehow it's different,
00:43:09.98\00:43:13.01
what comes
before from chapter 12.
00:43:13.04\00:43:17.14
Oh, sorry from chapter 12.
00:43:17.17\00:43:18.98
Okay. You see this
section is different
00:43:19.01\00:43:22.90
from first section of
the Book of Revelation.
00:43:22.93\00:43:25.44
Suddenly the language changes,
00:43:25.47\00:43:30.46
its highly symbolic language.
00:43:30.49\00:43:33.20
It's not easy,
easy to understand
00:43:33.23\00:43:35.79
we saw already in verse 1,
00:43:35.82\00:43:38.31
John was told I
will show you now
00:43:38.34\00:43:40.53
what will take
place after these things.
00:43:40.56\00:43:44.05
We name, actually
I named that section
00:43:44.08\00:43:47.09
as the historical section
of the Book of Revelation.
00:43:47.12\00:43:50.34
What we are trying to say
00:43:50.37\00:43:52.03
that this section of
the Book of Revelation
00:43:52.06\00:43:54.21
covers the course of history
00:43:54.24\00:43:57.83
from the time of John
until the time of the end.
00:43:57.86\00:44:02.70
Keep in mind that some
chapters of this section
00:44:02.73\00:44:07.48
they talk about
the time of the end.
00:44:07.51\00:44:09.59
Their function is a
kind of interlude, okay.
00:44:09.62\00:44:11.97
But the focus of
this second major division
00:44:12.00\00:44:15.95
of the Book of Revelation
is on history on the time,
00:44:15.98\00:44:21.73
from the time of John
until the time of the end
00:44:21.76\00:44:26.53
is the historical
section of the book.
00:44:26.56\00:44:28.88
Are you with me?
00:44:28.91\00:44:30.39
And now what is left?
00:44:30.42\00:44:32.75
The third major division
of the Book of Revelation.
00:44:32.78\00:44:35.56
We call it eschatological
because the Greek word
00:44:35.59\00:44:39.88
"Eschatos" means the last thing.
00:44:39.91\00:44:42.35
So, it means that
the last major division
00:44:42.38\00:44:46.35
of the Book of
Revelation deals primarily
00:44:46.38\00:44:50.60
and exclusively
with the time of the end.
00:44:50.63\00:44:53.35
And there are some sections
and some cluster of verses
00:44:53.38\00:44:59.03
they are going
little bit earlier,
00:44:59.06\00:45:00.58
but you will see
the reason for that.
00:45:00.61\00:45:02.53
But the main
purpose of this section
00:45:02.56\00:45:05.24
of the Book of
Revelation is to inform us
00:45:05.27\00:45:08.11
about the time of the end.
00:45:08.14\00:45:10.13
You'll see that
friends, how this structure fits
00:45:10.16\00:45:15.35
into the historicist approach
to the Book of Revelation
00:45:15.38\00:45:19.60
is telling us really
that the Book of Revelation
00:45:19.63\00:45:23.32
covers the whole span of history
00:45:23.35\00:45:26.72
from Christ ascension
there to the heavenly places
00:45:26.75\00:45:30.04
until the time when He will
come again and even after death.
00:45:30.07\00:45:33.99
How He will create the
new heaven and the new earth,
00:45:34.02\00:45:37.76
that's why I'm historicist.
00:45:37.79\00:45:39.64
With full respect my
friends who are preterits,
00:45:39.67\00:45:42.70
my friends' who are
idealist and futurist,
00:45:42.73\00:45:44.44
I respect them, I love them.
00:45:44.47\00:45:49.91
But we disagree
on the presupposition
00:45:49.94\00:45:53.62
because I am not
holding historicism
00:45:53.65\00:45:56.61
because of
certain presupposition,
00:45:56.64\00:45:58.70
is because the Book of
Revelation is telling me so.
00:45:58.73\00:46:03.43
Telling me how
the book was written
00:46:03.46\00:46:05.13
and that the book was intended
to be for the Christians.
00:46:05.16\00:46:09.00
Throughout the Christian history
or until the time of the end.
00:46:09.03\00:46:14.16
But there is some thing
more that I learned about this
00:46:14.19\00:46:19.16
and please I would
like to share this with you.
00:46:19.19\00:46:26.33
I noticed
something very interesting,
00:46:26.36\00:46:29.12
that's what intrigued me.
00:46:29.15\00:46:30.83
And during these series,
00:46:30.86\00:46:34.16
I will pay strong
attention to that.
00:46:34.19\00:46:38.00
I noticed that each one of
these three major divisions
00:46:38.03\00:46:42.59
of the Book of Revelation,
00:46:42.62\00:46:44.94
each one of these
three major divisions
00:46:44.97\00:46:47.77
begins with special
vision of Jesus Christ.
00:46:47.80\00:46:53.53
That was my discovery
and what you will find
00:46:53.56\00:46:56.57
in my commentary
this for the first time
00:46:56.60\00:46:58.76
that appears in any commentary.
00:46:58.79\00:47:01.34
Because of that I named
this to be "The Revelation",
00:47:01.37\00:47:05.11
actually
"Revelation of Jesus Christ."
00:47:05.14\00:47:07.11
Please let me explain to you.
00:47:07.14\00:47:11.72
What is the first major division
00:47:11.75\00:47:14.84
of the Book of Revelation about?
00:47:14.87\00:47:17.28
We will see next time,
00:47:17.31\00:47:18.70
when we go into the
Book of Revelation to study.
00:47:18.73\00:47:23.27
But the Christians
at the time of John,
00:47:23.30\00:47:26.80
they faced different struggles
00:47:26.83\00:47:28.73
living in pagan
society as we all do today.
00:47:28.76\00:47:33.65
Okay. The churches, some
of the churches were divided,
00:47:33.68\00:47:38.44
some churches were
in serious apostasy.
00:47:38.47\00:47:42.27
Now, Jesus Christ come to
visit John there on Patmos,
00:47:42.30\00:47:46.03
first to encourage John himself.
00:47:46.06\00:47:47.43
We will see it next
time and also to provide John
00:47:47.46\00:47:50.77
with those beautiful
messages for those churches.
00:47:50.80\00:47:54.06
Okay, to help them.
00:47:54.09\00:47:56.35
But you know, what happens?
00:47:56.38\00:47:58.98
You can experience
it with your own kids.
00:47:59.01\00:48:01.75
You can experience it
with your church members,
00:48:01.78\00:48:04.25
fellow church
members that are there.
00:48:04.28\00:48:06.48
When people are in
a spiritual trouble
00:48:06.51\00:48:10.45
and you try to talk to them,
00:48:10.48\00:48:12.57
to help them to get out of that-
00:48:12.60\00:48:14.52
of the situation,
they usually will resist.
00:48:14.55\00:48:18.12
They know that you are
correct but they resist.
00:48:18.15\00:48:20.64
And you know, when you
try to talk to your kids,
00:48:20.67\00:48:23.52
they are rebellious
but then you put them there
00:48:23.55\00:48:26.35
on the chair in
front of our self and says,
00:48:26.38\00:48:29.40
I am your father or your mother.
00:48:29.43\00:48:32.40
Do you know how much I love you
00:48:32.43\00:48:34.69
and you can try
to trick other people
00:48:34.72\00:48:37.30
but you cannot trick me
because I know you very well.
00:48:37.33\00:48:42.25
And then they shut up
and they listen to you,
00:48:42.28\00:48:46.27
because they know
that you love them,
00:48:46.30\00:48:48.88
that you care about them
but you know them very well,
00:48:48.91\00:48:52.63
they cannot hide
anything before you.
00:48:52.66\00:48:54.88
You see before
Jesus sends those messages
00:48:54.91\00:48:58.70
to those seven churches,
the messages of rebuke,
00:48:58.73\00:49:02.67
terrible rebuke but the
messages of encouragement
00:49:02.70\00:49:07.12
and advice how to come
out and He says repent.
00:49:07.15\00:49:11.46
But before Jesus
gives them those messages,
00:49:11.49\00:49:14.44
Jesus introduces
Himself to them. How?
00:49:14.47\00:49:18.54
Is the one walking among
those seven candlesticks.
00:49:18.57\00:49:22.41
So I hope you will not
miss next presentation,
00:49:22.44\00:49:24.58
that's my special that's
the vision of Jesus Christ
00:49:24.61\00:49:26.87
that changed my life completely,
00:49:26.90\00:49:28.27
I just want to tell you.
00:49:28.30\00:49:29.82
See, Jesus, actually
the Book of Revelation
00:49:29.85\00:49:32.53
is telling us that
those seven candlesticks,
00:49:32.56\00:49:34.76
they represent
the seven churches.
00:49:34.79\00:49:36.60
So, Jesus is there
trimming the lamps,
00:49:36.63\00:49:39.37
caring about each
one of those lamps.
00:49:39.40\00:49:43.45
What is the
message there to tell them,
00:49:43.48\00:49:45.88
I know you very well
00:49:45.91\00:49:47.39
because the lamps
represent those churches.
00:49:47.42\00:49:50.93
What is the keyword of
the message to seven churches?
00:49:50.96\00:49:53.76
I know you.
00:49:53.79\00:49:55.71
I know where you dwell.
00:49:55.74\00:49:58.08
I know your difficulties.
00:49:58.11\00:50:00.18
I know you're a labor.
00:50:00.21\00:50:01.58
I know of all your
troubles that you have.
00:50:01.61\00:50:04.23
So when those messages
reach those Christians,
00:50:04.26\00:50:07.55
they were listening
to the voice of Jesus.
00:50:07.58\00:50:09.56
Because it came from
one who knew them very well.
00:50:09.59\00:50:13.98
What a kind of
revelation of Jesus Christ.
00:50:14.01\00:50:16.91
Let's go to the next section.
00:50:16.94\00:50:19.10
Please, now you have to help me.
00:50:19.13\00:50:21.02
What is the
second major division
00:50:21.05\00:50:23.31
of the Book of
Revelation all about?
00:50:23.34\00:50:25.98
About history.
00:50:26.01\00:50:28.57
We will come, we will cover it.
00:50:28.60\00:50:30.50
The seals, they
talk about the history
00:50:30.53\00:50:34.46
of the Christian church
during the Christian age.
00:50:34.49\00:50:38.70
But the trumpets
we will see that.
00:50:38.73\00:50:41.65
We will go one after another
00:50:41.68\00:50:43.58
to study in
details they are talking
00:50:43.61\00:50:46.45
about the hostile
world for the churches.
00:50:46.48\00:50:51.07
So you have the
history of the church
00:50:51.10\00:50:52.96
and the history of the world.
00:50:52.99\00:50:54.36
Let me ask you.
00:50:54.39\00:50:55.99
Is the history something nice?
00:50:56.02\00:50:59.09
When you study
history, there is so much mess.
00:50:59.12\00:51:02.70
What about the Christian church?
00:51:02.73\00:51:04.18
Oh, we have many Christians.
00:51:04.21\00:51:06.23
So many times when
you see the history,
00:51:06.26\00:51:07.77
how Christians they
behaved throughout history.
00:51:07.80\00:51:10.00
You ask the
question, Lord where are you?
00:51:10.03\00:51:13.78
Are you in control
of history as well?
00:51:13.81\00:51:17.32
But you see,
00:51:17.35\00:51:19.64
before Jesus
Christ shows to John
00:51:19.67\00:51:25.33
the course of
history of the church
00:51:25.36\00:51:27.14
and the world in
the symbolic language
00:51:27.17\00:51:29.99
of the seals and the trumpets.
00:51:30.02\00:51:32.79
Jesus Christ, first He wants
00:51:32.82\00:51:35.09
to introduce
Himself to John and to us.
00:51:35.12\00:51:39.86
And that revelation of Jesus,
00:51:39.89\00:51:41.26
that introductory
vision of Jesus Christ is found
00:51:41.29\00:51:43.84
in the
Revelation chapters 4 and 5.
00:51:43.87\00:51:47.69
All the evidences that they
show that actually Revelation 5
00:51:47.72\00:51:51.64
describe
dethronement of Jesus Christ
00:51:51.67\00:51:55.18
on the heavenly throne here.
00:51:55.21\00:51:58.05
After His ascension
there to the heavenly places.
00:51:58.08\00:52:00.37
Jesus sat at the
right hand of the Father
00:52:00.40\00:52:03.15
and he was given that scroll.
00:52:03.18\00:52:05.15
The scroll that portraits
00:52:05.18\00:52:07.40
Lords covenant
relationship with His people.
00:52:07.43\00:52:09.58
But also
portraits the course history
00:52:09.61\00:52:12.73
that will take
place in the future.
00:52:12.76\00:52:15.23
What is the
purpose of this vision
00:52:15.26\00:52:17.29
before John receives
the description of history
00:52:17.32\00:52:20.14
to telling us Gods
history can be messy.
00:52:20.17\00:52:23.95
So many times you
wonder if God isn't control,
00:52:23.98\00:52:28.29
the political history world
is mess after mess after mess
00:52:28.32\00:52:31.65
and Gods people are lost
within those political events.
00:52:31.68\00:52:37.45
The message of
the Revelation 4 and 5
00:52:37.48\00:52:39.88
is to tell us don't
worry, I am on the throne.
00:52:39.91\00:52:46.74
The scroll of the history of
the world is put into my hand
00:52:46.77\00:52:51.68
and I am in control. Amen.
00:52:51.71\00:52:56.47
So, now let's go to
the last major section
00:52:56.50\00:52:59.66
of the Book of Revelation.
00:52:59.69\00:53:01.06
How did we call it?
00:53:01.09\00:53:02.80
The Eschatological section.
00:53:02.83\00:53:04.82
What is the purpose
of the last major section
00:53:04.85\00:53:07.50
or division of the
Book of Revelation?
00:53:07.53\00:53:09.32
To inform us about
the time of the end.
00:53:09.35\00:53:11.21
So please, now I am
asking you one question,
00:53:11.24\00:53:14.98
that you'll to give
me an honest answer.
00:53:15.01\00:53:17.17
Are the final
events pleasant ones?
00:53:17.20\00:53:23.19
We already addressed that
issue in our first presentation.
00:53:23.22\00:53:26.86
It can be very messy.
00:53:26.89\00:53:29.05
It can be very
frightening, make us to worry.
00:53:29.08\00:53:36.19
By the way if you
go to the conclusions
00:53:36.22\00:53:39.47
of Revelation
chapter 6 that talks
00:53:39.50\00:53:41.31
about second coming of Christ.
00:53:41.34\00:53:43.12
We will see the
wicked going all around
00:53:43.15\00:53:44.92
asking the greater
wrath of God has come
00:53:44.95\00:53:48.19
and who is able to stand.
00:53:48.22\00:53:50.34
Yeah.
00:53:50.37\00:53:52.94
Those events are
bizarre and frightening.
00:53:52.97\00:53:55.10
But you see before we
go to that major sections
00:53:55.13\00:54:00.03
we have Revelation 12,
it's my favorite chapter.
00:54:00.06\00:54:04.15
Actually Revelation 12
concludes with a statement.
00:54:04.18\00:54:07.53
And the dragon became so
much enraged with the woman
00:54:07.56\00:54:13.96
that is
determined to win that war
00:54:13.99\00:54:17.67
against the
remnant of her offspring
00:54:17.70\00:54:20.15
those who keep the
commandments of God,
00:54:20.18\00:54:22.82
they have faith in Jesus.
00:54:22.85\00:54:24.22
Okay. So, what is the rest
of the Book of Revelation about?
00:54:24.25\00:54:27.73
About, angry Satan.
00:54:27.76\00:54:31.05
Who is preparing
himself for that final war?
00:54:31.08\00:54:35.89
That's why those events,
00:54:35.92\00:54:37.87
final events are so
scary and frightening.
00:54:37.90\00:54:41.65
And God knew that, God knew
00:54:41.68\00:54:44.21
that we'll will be
concern about that.
00:54:44.24\00:54:46.08
But before giving
us the description
00:54:46.11\00:54:48.53
of the final events
we have Revelation 12.
00:54:48.56\00:54:52.39
Boy, when you
come to the chapter
00:54:52.42\00:54:53.79
you will fall in
love with the chapter.
00:54:53.82\00:54:56.73
We saw the woman that's pregnant
00:54:56.76\00:54:59.08
and the dragon Satan
00:54:59.11\00:55:00.48
waiting for the child to
be born and the child is born.
00:55:00.51\00:55:03.11
How long was Satan waiting?
00:55:03.14\00:55:06.18
Since, Genesis 3:15.
00:55:06.21\00:55:09.60
And the child is born
00:55:09.63\00:55:11.00
and he is there
to destroy the child.
00:55:11.03\00:55:12.40
What happened to the child?
00:55:12.43\00:55:13.80
The child is
taken there to heaven
00:55:13.83\00:55:15.25
and Satan is the loser.
00:55:15.28\00:55:17.90
Then after that
there is the war in heaven.
00:55:17.93\00:55:21.25
Satan is there with
his demons to wage the war.
00:55:21.28\00:55:24.54
And he is cast out from heaven.
00:55:24.57\00:55:27.75
He is loser again.
00:55:27.78\00:55:29.92
When Satan sees that he
is cast out from heaven.
00:55:29.95\00:55:32.84
You read verse 13, he
starts persecuting the church.
00:55:32.87\00:55:38.98
And he is about
to destroy the church
00:55:39.01\00:55:41.77
after the period of 1260
days there in the wilderness
00:55:41.80\00:55:45.26
when he pours
out the water there
00:55:45.29\00:55:47.54
and just to destroy the church.
00:55:47.57\00:55:48.94
He says a friendly earth appears
00:55:48.97\00:55:51.52
and swallows that
water and saves the church.
00:55:51.55\00:55:54.73
And Satan is a loser again.
00:55:54.76\00:55:58.22
And now after
that comes the text.
00:55:58.25\00:56:00.86
And Satan becomes so much angry
00:56:00.89\00:56:06.10
and decides to wage the war.
00:56:06.13\00:56:07.55
What is purpose of
chapter 12 to tell us?
00:56:07.58\00:56:09.77
Yes, church. Yes, Christians.
00:56:09.80\00:56:13.28
You are facing an angry enemy.
00:56:13.31\00:56:17.08
He's furious, he's a
dragon don't take him lightly.
00:56:17.11\00:56:21.36
But, Jesus don't worry,
he's already a defeated enemy.
00:56:21.39\00:56:27.35
I am a constant victor.
00:56:27.38\00:56:29.62
I defeated him
already so many times,
00:56:29.65\00:56:31.69
he's just a piece of cake.
00:56:31.72\00:56:35.88
That's why the promise of Jesus,
00:56:35.91\00:56:39.16
"I will be with you always
until the very end of the age."
00:56:39.19\00:56:46.51
Friends I know,
there are some people
00:56:46.54\00:56:49.82
so eager to defend
their presuppositions.
00:56:49.85\00:56:53.42
We have in modern
time even my fellow members
00:56:53.45\00:56:57.23
in my own denominations
they are turning to futurism
00:56:57.26\00:57:02.10
with different
agendas to prove the points
00:57:02.13\00:57:05.09
to establish the date of
the second coming of Christ
00:57:05.12\00:57:07.67
different
agendas they have there.
00:57:07.70\00:57:10.33
And I believe that
these are all methods of Satan
00:57:10.36\00:57:13.19
to turn us away for the
meant of the Book of Revelation
00:57:13.22\00:57:16.26
to telling us that this is
the revelation of Jesus Christ.
00:57:16.29\00:57:20.09
Yes, He is with us.
00:57:20.12\00:57:21.54
And because of him through
Him we will one day be there.
00:57:21.57\00:57:27.89