¤¤ 00:00:00.96\00:00:03.50 [organ music playing] 00:00:14.84\00:00:16.81 ¤¤ 00:00:16.81\00:00:19.98 ¤ Angels on high now ¤ 00:00:27.12\00:00:29.09 ¤ praise the Creator ¤ 00:00:29.09\00:00:31.09 ¤ Heavenly hosts bring ¤ 00:00:31.09\00:00:33.09 ¤ praise to God ¤ 00:00:33.09\00:00:35.73 ¤ Radiant sunshine ¤ 00:00:36.40\00:00:38.40 ¤ beautiful starlight ¤ 00:00:38.40\00:00:40.30 ¤ All in the sky bring ¤ 00:00:40.30\00:00:42.20 ¤ praise to God ¤ 00:00:42.20\00:00:45.51 ¤ All in the heavens ¤ 00:00:47.44\00:00:49.81 ¤ all on the earth ¤ 00:00:49.81\00:00:51.05 ¤ all honor His name ¤ 00:00:51.05\00:00:54.82 ¤ All of creation ¤ 00:00:56.58\00:00:58.55 ¤ now and forever ¤ 00:00:58.55\00:01:00.72 ¤ honor His name ¤ 00:01:00.72\00:01:03.12 ¤ All praise His name ¤ 00:01:03.12\00:01:10.03 ¤¤ 00:01:10.03\00:01:12.47 ¤ Rivers and oceans ¤ 00:01:15.97\00:01:17.94 ¤ mountains and valleys ¤ 00:01:17.94\00:01:19.87 ¤ All on the earth bring ¤ 00:01:19.87\00:01:21.84 ¤ praise to God ¤ 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00:02:41.89\00:02:42.99 ¤ bring praise ¤ 00:02:42.99\00:02:45.76 ¤ All He has made bring praise ¤ 00:02:45.76\00:02:52.57 ¤ to God ¤ 00:02:52.57\00:02:55.87 ¤¤ 00:02:57.21\00:02:59.27 ¤ Praise to God ¤ 00:03:02.74\00:03:08.95 >> Our call to worship this 00:03:14.56\00:03:15.79 morning invites us to action, to 00:03:15.79\00:03:19.46 praise God. 00:03:19.46\00:03:20.76 Maybe sometimes we feel that our 00:03:20.76\00:03:22.30 circumstances don't lend 00:03:22.30\00:03:24.53 themselves to our praise, but 00:03:24.53\00:03:26.23 they do. 00:03:26.23\00:03:27.30 So I invite you this morning to 00:03:27.30\00:03:29.14 join me in a responsive reading 00:03:29.14\00:03:30.74 of the call to worship and I'm 00:03:30.74\00:03:32.01 inviting you to read with gusto 00:03:32.01\00:03:34.64 and energy as we... 00:03:34.64\00:03:36.71 I invite you to stand with me 00:04:12.41\00:04:14.08 for the invocation and remain 00:04:14.08\00:04:16.02 standing for the songs that 00:04:16.02\00:04:17.79 follow. 00:04:17.79\00:04:18.65 Let us pray. 00:04:24.23\00:04:25.43 Our awesome God, creator of 00:04:28.73\00:04:32.97 heaven and earth. 00:04:32.97\00:04:34.47 We worship You on this, Your 00:04:35.47\00:04:37.74 Holy Sabbath day. 00:04:37.74\00:04:39.31 We thank You that You have seen 00:04:40.74\00:04:42.84 it fit to spare our lives that 00:04:42.84\00:04:44.85 we should be here gathered 00:04:44.85\00:04:46.92 together in worship. 00:04:46.92\00:04:48.78 We thank You that You love us so 00:04:50.42\00:04:54.16 much, beyond our comprehension. 00:04:54.16\00:04:57.89 And today as we worship, we 00:04:58.63\00:05:01.03 invite You to take all of our 00:05:01.03\00:05:02.53 hearts, all of our minds, all of 00:05:02.53\00:05:06.53 our souls, all of our strength, 00:05:06.53\00:05:10.17 that You would help us to defy 00:05:10.17\00:05:12.07 all the distractions that seek 00:05:12.07\00:05:15.11 to destroy us and discourage us, 00:05:15.11\00:05:19.51 but that You will help us to be 00:05:19.51\00:05:21.02 defiant, to worship You in 00:05:21.02\00:05:24.92 spirit and in truth, whatever 00:05:24.92\00:05:27.66 the circumstances we face, we 00:05:27.66\00:05:30.26 praise You. 00:05:30.26\00:05:31.26 In Jesus' name, amen. 00:05:31.26\00:05:32.93 >> As you remain still standing, 00:05:35.53\00:05:37.10 I just want to remind us that 00:05:37.10\00:05:40.87 the concept of faith through 00:05:40.87\00:05:43.54 trials can be best understood 00:05:43.54\00:05:47.91 through the story of Job. 00:05:47.91\00:05:49.58 Even when he lost his wealth, 00:05:51.95\00:05:54.95 his health, and his family, Job 00:05:54.95\00:05:59.42 never lost his faith in God. 00:05:59.42\00:06:02.69 His story is a testament to the 00:06:03.59\00:06:06.59 power of maintaining trust in 00:06:06.59\00:06:09.43 God, despite the circumstances 00:06:09.43\00:06:13.74 you're going through. 00:06:13.74\00:06:15.37 So this morning, PMC, I'm 00:06:15.37\00:06:17.24 reminding you that sometimes the 00:06:17.24\00:06:19.87 loudest praises come from the 00:06:19.87\00:06:22.31 deepest valleys. 00:06:22.31\00:06:23.75 So let's continue to declare His 00:06:24.35\00:06:25.71 name this morning. 00:06:25.71\00:06:28.82 You know that song, 00:06:39.66\00:06:40.60 sing with me. 00:06:40.60\00:06:41.53 I raise... 00:06:51.61\00:06:52.61 I'm gonna sing... 00:07:13.66\00:07:15.13 Yes! 00:08:12.59\00:08:13.82 Sing with us! 00:08:24.33\00:08:25.53 PMC... 00:10:57.45\00:10:58.59 ...when words fail, 00:11:00.89\00:11:03.19 when your words fail... 00:11:03.19\00:11:04.79 ...fill the room with Jesus. 00:11:06.06\00:11:09.23 ¤¤ 00:11:09.23\00:11:11.80 [ABEL] Your name is power! 00:13:40.52\00:13:42.02 [ABEL] Your name is power! 00:15:01.00\00:15:02.53 Break every stronghold! 00:15:14.18\00:15:16.04 >> Welcome to part two of our 00:15:40.34\00:15:42.27 continuing series entitled How 00:15:42.27\00:15:45.01 To Stay Married Forever and 00:15:45.01\00:15:46.91 Like It. 00:15:46.91\00:15:47.81 Now, if you were here for part 00:15:48.74\00:15:49.78 one, you may recall that at the 00:15:49.78\00:15:51.55 beginning of that presentation, 00:15:51.55\00:15:53.08 I had wanted to show certain 00:15:53.08\00:15:55.95 pictures from my wedding day, 00:15:55.95\00:15:57.85 but because I recently moved and 00:15:57.85\00:15:58.99 everything is still lost in 00:15:58.99\00:15:59.95 boxes, I could not find what I 00:15:59.95\00:16:01.32 wanted. 00:16:01.32\00:16:01.96 What I did not think about is 00:16:01.96\00:16:04.33 that there were other people at 00:16:04.33\00:16:05.56 that wedding that might be 00:16:05.56\00:16:07.56 listening to that sermon. 00:16:07.56\00:16:09.16 And so my stepmother, very 00:16:09.16\00:16:10.83 faithful, she listened to that, 00:16:10.83\00:16:12.80 she said, "Aha, I have a 00:16:12.80\00:16:14.30 solution." 00:16:14.30\00:16:14.90 So here is a picture in which 00:16:15.00\00:16:17.54 not only is my wife smiling, but 00:16:17.54\00:16:19.81 so am I. 00:16:19.81\00:16:21.54 Right? 00:16:21.54\00:16:22.28 I didn't want you to think it 00:16:22.58\00:16:23.24 was just a great day for her. 00:16:23.24\00:16:24.61 Last week you couldn't see my 00:16:24.61\00:16:25.78 face, today you can. 00:16:25.78\00:16:27.28 It was a wonderful day. 00:16:27.28\00:16:28.78 Easily one of the best days of 00:16:28.78\00:16:30.39 our life. 00:16:30.39\00:16:32.09 So thank you very much to my 00:16:32.09\00:16:32.99 stepmother for providing that. 00:16:32.99\00:16:34.46 One of the reasons that it was 00:16:35.39\00:16:37.33 one of the happiest days of our 00:16:37.33\00:16:39.09 lives is because we followed 00:16:39.09\00:16:41.50 certain simple keys in finding 00:16:41.50\00:16:44.33 Mr. or Mrs. Right. 00:16:44.33\00:16:45.33 We went through four keys, 00:16:45.33\00:16:46.33 actually last week. 00:16:46.33\00:16:47.24 Let me just put them on the 00:16:47.24\00:16:48.00 screen here for you to 00:16:48.00\00:16:48.90 remind you. 00:16:48.90\00:16:49.67 Key number one, don't marry for 00:16:49.67\00:16:50.91 love, marry for life. 00:16:50.91\00:16:52.57 Take the long range view, look 00:16:52.57\00:16:54.78 carefully at basic day-to-day 00:16:54.78\00:16:56.58 compatibilities before you say 00:16:56.58\00:16:58.58 "I do." 00:16:58.58\00:16:59.45 Number two, take your time. 00:16:59.45\00:17:01.15 Take some time to see all the 00:17:01.15\00:17:02.55 good things and yes, to see the 00:17:02.55\00:17:04.25 flaws that the other person may 00:17:04.25\00:17:05.75 have. 00:17:05.75\00:17:06.35 Two-year rule, don't even 00:17:06.35\00:17:07.66 consider getting married until 00:17:07.66\00:17:08.86 you have dated for at least two 00:17:08.86\00:17:10.56 years. 00:17:10.56\00:17:11.23 Key number three, save physical 00:17:11.23\00:17:12.63 intimacy for marriage. 00:17:12.63\00:17:13.60 Don't live together. 00:17:13.60\00:17:14.36 Don't sleep together. 00:17:14.36\00:17:15.36 It will make it more difficult, 00:17:15.36\00:17:17.60 not better, for you to be able 00:17:17.60\00:17:19.37 to find a happy and forever 00:17:19.37\00:17:20.97 marriage. 00:17:20.97\00:17:21.64 And number four, the fourth key, 00:17:21.64\00:17:23.37 seek counsel from wise 00:17:23.37\00:17:24.81 God-following people. 00:17:24.81\00:17:26.11 It can be very helpful to get 00:17:26.11\00:17:28.38 the opinion of somebody who 00:17:28.38\00:17:29.84 knows God, knows His word and 00:17:29.84\00:17:31.51 has been around the track a few 00:17:31.51\00:17:32.98 more times than you have. 00:17:32.98\00:17:34.85 Now, with that in mind... 00:17:36.05\00:17:39.55 ...some of you came to me 00:17:40.79\00:17:42.06 after last week's presentation 00:17:42.06\00:17:44.03 and said, "Pastor, that was 00:17:44.03\00:17:45.49 great, I loved it. 00:17:45.49\00:17:46.53 Thank you so much for the 00:17:46.53\00:17:47.50 information." 00:17:47.50\00:17:48.56 Some of you came up to me last 00:17:48.56\00:17:50.07 week and said, "That was 00:17:50.07\00:17:51.00 depressing because we didn't do 00:17:51.00\00:17:52.17 any of those things and now what 00:17:52.17\00:17:53.54 do I do?" 00:17:53.54\00:17:54.40 Right? 00:17:54.64\00:17:55.44 And essentially what that second 00:17:56.81\00:17:58.04 group was saying is, "Next week 00:17:58.04\00:18:00.28 had better be good." 00:18:00.28\00:18:01.74 [laughter] 00:18:02.08\00:18:03.45 So I do indeed hope that today 00:18:04.91\00:18:07.38 is helpful. 00:18:07.38\00:18:08.38 So I hope that you track with me 00:18:08.38\00:18:10.32 the whole time here. 00:18:10.32\00:18:11.22 Before we jump into part two, 00:18:11.22\00:18:13.56 two things I'd like you to 00:18:13.56\00:18:14.89 remember. 00:18:14.89\00:18:15.69 Number one, what I'm going to 00:18:15.69\00:18:17.89 say today applies to nearly 00:18:17.89\00:18:20.06 every couple who will be or is 00:18:20.06\00:18:22.36 currently married, but it may 00:18:22.36\00:18:24.47 not apply to couples that are in 00:18:24.47\00:18:26.70 abusive situations. 00:18:26.70\00:18:28.24 If you're in a situation where 00:18:28.64\00:18:29.67 there's verbal abuse, physical 00:18:29.67\00:18:30.57 abuse, emotional, sexual abuse, 00:18:30.57\00:18:32.37 etc., by the time I get to the 00:18:32.37\00:18:34.21 end, those of you that have had 00:18:34.21\00:18:35.84 experience with these things, 00:18:35.84\00:18:36.71 you may be nodding your head 00:18:36.71\00:18:37.68 saying, "I'm not sure all of 00:18:37.68\00:18:38.91 those are applicable in an 00:18:38.91\00:18:40.18 abusive relationship." 00:18:40.18\00:18:41.42 If you are listening to me right 00:18:41.85\00:18:43.12 now and you are in that kind of 00:18:43.12\00:18:45.42 an abusive relationship, you 00:18:45.42\00:18:47.26 need to find a Christian 00:18:47.26\00:18:48.26 counselor right away. 00:18:48.26\00:18:49.52 You need an intervention. 00:18:49.52\00:18:50.43 You may even need to call law 00:18:50.43\00:18:51.76 enforcement depending upon the 00:18:51.76\00:18:53.09 severity of your particular 00:18:53.09\00:18:54.46 situation. 00:18:54.46\00:18:55.33 Do not necessarily take 00:18:55.63\00:18:57.30 everything I'm about to say and 00:18:57.30\00:18:58.90 seek to overlay it onto that 00:18:58.90\00:19:00.77 relationship. 00:19:00.77\00:19:01.97 Number two, if you did not 00:19:01.97\00:19:04.97 follow God's plan for choosing a 00:19:04.97\00:19:06.81 spouse, if you didn't follow 00:19:06.81\00:19:08.24 those four keys or whatever keys 00:19:08.24\00:19:09.44 there might be in God's Word, 00:19:09.44\00:19:11.15 all is not lost. 00:19:11.15\00:19:13.52 In fact, if you have a seed of 00:19:14.85\00:19:17.22 willingness, if you and your 00:19:17.22\00:19:18.69 spouse have a seed of 00:19:18.69\00:19:20.02 willingness to make an attempt 00:19:20.02\00:19:22.39 to right the ship. 00:19:22.39\00:19:23.49 You know, Jesus had this saying, 00:19:23.49\00:19:24.63 He said, "If you have the faith 00:19:24.63\00:19:26.56 the size of a mustard seed, you 00:19:26.56\00:19:28.50 can move..." what? 00:19:28.50\00:19:29.70 "Mountains." 00:19:30.17\00:19:31.47 Well, some of you may feel like 00:19:31.47\00:19:32.70 there is a mountain of 00:19:32.70\00:19:33.80 difficulty in your marriage 00:19:33.80\00:19:35.60 relationship and you're like, "I 00:19:35.60\00:19:36.60 don't know how we can fix this, 00:19:36.60\00:19:38.07 I don't know how we can 00:19:38.07\00:19:38.84 unpack it." 00:19:38.84\00:19:39.77 There is hope. 00:19:39.77\00:19:41.04 There is good news. 00:19:41.04\00:19:42.54 In fact, I would say this, if 00:19:42.54\00:19:44.48 the two of you sincerely put 00:19:44.48\00:19:46.45 into practice the Bible 00:19:46.45\00:19:47.85 guidelines that we're gonna look 00:19:47.85\00:19:49.32 at today and next week, your 00:19:49.32\00:19:51.85 marriage cannot only pull out of 00:19:51.85\00:19:53.69 the dive it might be in now, but 00:19:53.69\00:19:55.36 it can even become downright 00:19:55.36\00:19:57.19 enjoyable. 00:19:57.19\00:19:58.19 Now, what if not both of you are 00:19:59.19\00:20:00.53 willing? 00:20:00.53\00:20:01.50 Come back next week. 00:20:01.96\00:20:03.00 We'll talk a little bit more 00:20:03.00\00:20:03.87 about that. 00:20:03.87\00:20:05.07 But if both of you are, the 00:20:05.07\00:20:07.97 possibility of being married 00:20:07.97\00:20:09.50 happily and forever, regardless 00:20:09.50\00:20:11.54 of your circumstances right now, 00:20:11.54\00:20:13.01 is not necessarily out of your 00:20:13.01\00:20:14.64 reach. 00:20:14.64\00:20:15.64 God specializes in U-turns. 00:20:15.64\00:20:17.78 So let's see what He can do. 00:20:18.85\00:20:20.28 What are the keys then, for 00:20:22.08\00:20:24.52 after you say "I do?" 00:20:24.52\00:20:26.86 How can you have a marriage that 00:20:26.86\00:20:28.29 lasts happily and forever after 00:20:28.29\00:20:29.92 you say "I do," even if there 00:20:29.92\00:20:31.03 have been some hiccups along 00:20:31.03\00:20:32.16 the way. 00:20:32.16\00:20:32.89 Last week we looked at four 00:20:32.89\00:20:33.70 keys, this week we're going to 00:20:33.70\00:20:35.53 look at three. 00:20:35.53\00:20:37.23 If you have a Bible, take a 00:20:37.67\00:20:38.53 look, please. 00:20:38.53\00:20:39.10 Deuteronomy chapter 24, verse 5. 00:20:39.23\00:20:41.50 Key number one, Deuteronomy 00:20:42.50\00:20:44.41 chapter 24, verse 5. 00:20:44.41\00:20:45.54 It's on page 139 in the pew 00:20:45.54\00:20:47.54 Bible. 00:20:47.54\00:20:48.31 It should be somewhere there 00:20:48.31\00:20:49.11 nearby, maybe right in front of 00:20:49.11\00:20:50.01 you or so. 00:20:50.01\00:20:51.01 Most of them are red. 00:20:51.01\00:20:52.01 Page 139, Deuteronomy chapter 00:20:52.01\00:20:54.52 24, verse 5. 00:20:54.52\00:20:56.75 Most people, when they are 00:20:58.49\00:20:59.52 looking for marriage advice in 00:20:59.52\00:21:01.59 the Bible don't go to the book 00:21:01.59\00:21:03.66 of Deuteronomy. 00:21:03.66\00:21:05.09 There are other places that they 00:21:05.09\00:21:05.99 will go, but as it turns out, 00:21:05.99\00:21:08.16 there are some golden pieces of 00:21:08.16\00:21:11.30 advice in Deuteronomy here. 00:21:11.30\00:21:13.70 Turns out God has been in the 00:21:13.70\00:21:15.07 good marriage business for a 00:21:15.07\00:21:16.37 very long time. 00:21:16.37\00:21:17.67 Deuteronomy chapter 24, just 00:21:17.67\00:21:19.04 verse 5, it says, "If a man has 00:21:19.04\00:21:21.54 recently married, he must not be 00:21:21.54\00:21:24.81 sent to war or have any other 00:21:24.81\00:21:27.82 duty laid on him. 00:21:27.82\00:21:29.32 For one year, he is to be free 00:21:29.32\00:21:31.99 to stay at home and bring 00:21:31.99\00:21:34.06 happiness to the wife he has 00:21:34.06\00:21:36.29 married." 00:21:36.29\00:21:37.29 Wow, let me read that last 00:21:38.03\00:21:39.23 sentence again. 00:21:39.23\00:21:40.00 "For one year he is to be free 00:21:40.00\00:21:41.90 to stay at home and bring 00:21:41.90\00:21:43.57 happiness to the wife that he 00:21:43.57\00:21:46.20 has married." 00:21:46.20\00:21:47.27 Key number one for after you say 00:21:50.01\00:21:52.67 "I do," to get on path-- track 00:21:52.67\00:21:54.28 here, to have a marriage that 00:21:54.28\00:21:55.28 lasts happily and forever is to 00:21:55.28\00:21:57.55 spend quality time together. 00:21:57.55\00:21:59.95 Spend quality time together. 00:22:01.22\00:22:04.19 Now, in the context of 00:22:05.05\00:22:06.25 Deuteronomy, chapter 24, verse 00:22:06.25\00:22:07.66 5, I'm not sure that all of you 00:22:07.66\00:22:09.06 grasp how revolutionary this 00:22:09.06\00:22:10.66 particular text is. 00:22:10.66\00:22:12.36 You know, today we, in the 00:22:12.36\00:22:13.50 United States, we don't have 00:22:13.50\00:22:14.93 compulsory military service. 00:22:14.93\00:22:16.06 Some countries do, we do not. 00:22:16.06\00:22:17.50 In fact, if there were to be a 00:22:17.50\00:22:19.47 change and there was, you know, 00:22:19.47\00:22:20.64 compulsory military service, you 00:22:20.64\00:22:21.90 would see it coming a long way 00:22:21.90\00:22:23.44 off, etc. 00:22:23.44\00:22:24.44 Not so in those days. 00:22:24.97\00:22:26.94 No email, no cell phones. 00:22:26.94\00:22:28.28 How did they live? 00:22:28.28\00:22:29.44 There was no politicians out 00:22:29.44\00:22:31.11 there being able to give 00:22:31.11\00:22:32.15 advanced warning. 00:22:32.15\00:22:33.48 A nation could show up on a 00:22:33.48\00:22:35.28 moment's notice and your nation 00:22:35.28\00:22:37.62 could be threatened with mortal 00:22:37.62\00:22:39.39 danger. 00:22:39.39\00:22:40.06 And so at those times, the call 00:22:40.06\00:22:41.89 would go out. 00:22:41.89\00:22:42.56 Every able bodied man was called 00:22:42.56\00:22:44.39 to arms. 00:22:44.39\00:22:45.43 Unless you just said, "I do." 00:22:47.10\00:22:49.50 And then you're off the hook. 00:22:50.27\00:22:51.87 You can stay home. 00:22:51.87\00:22:52.70 Everybody goes out and fights 00:22:52.70\00:22:53.54 and whatnot and you get to stay 00:22:53.54\00:22:54.84 home and for this year you get 00:22:54.84\00:22:56.34 to bring happiness to the wife 00:22:56.34\00:22:59.01 that you have married. 00:22:59.01\00:23:00.51 I mean, the point is clear, 00:23:01.11\00:23:02.24 spend quality time together. 00:23:02.24\00:23:04.71 Now, if you have just recently 00:23:04.71\00:23:06.48 been married, I know what you're 00:23:06.48\00:23:07.92 thinking. 00:23:07.92\00:23:08.58 You're thinking... 00:23:08.58\00:23:09.68 "Well, duh! 00:23:11.05\00:23:12.15 I mean, of course this is what 00:23:13.89\00:23:14.66 we're doing. 00:23:14.66\00:23:15.42 We love to spend time together. 00:23:15.42\00:23:16.59 When we were-- all of our 00:23:16.59\00:23:17.59 dating, we could hardly stand to 00:23:17.59\00:23:18.56 say goodbye in the evening, it 00:23:18.56\00:23:19.89 was joyous when we saw each 00:23:19.89\00:23:21.00 other in the morning, the sun 00:23:21.00\00:23:22.23 rose and set on each other's 00:23:22.23\00:23:23.57 company, how could you even 00:23:23.57\00:23:25.13 bother to bring this out 00:23:25.13\00:23:26.47 as a key?" 00:23:26.47\00:23:27.47 So here's the thing... 00:23:30.07\00:23:31.31 ...sometimes it is very true, we 00:23:32.91\00:23:35.74 hope it's true, that when you 00:23:35.74\00:23:37.98 get married and the flush of the 00:23:37.98\00:23:39.98 excitement of it all, I mean, if 00:23:39.98\00:23:41.18 we're spending time together, 00:23:41.18\00:23:42.05 you don't even have to think 00:23:42.05\00:23:42.95 about it, it just comes, it's 00:23:42.95\00:23:44.22 just part of it. 00:23:44.22\00:23:45.09 But sometimes it also happens 00:23:45.09\00:23:47.72 that as that initial excitement 00:23:47.72\00:23:49.39 fades away and year begins to 00:23:49.39\00:23:50.89 build upon year, that sometimes 00:23:50.89\00:23:52.96 this time together doesn't 00:23:52.96\00:23:55.20 happen like it's supposed to. 00:23:55.20\00:23:57.80 In fact, sometimes, shall we 00:23:58.43\00:24:02.27 say, the caveman mentality comes 00:24:02.27\00:24:04.34 in, okay? 00:24:04.34\00:24:06.14 I'm just gonna speak for myself 00:24:06.14\00:24:07.28 because this was certainly me. 00:24:07.28\00:24:08.61 When I was seriously dating my 00:24:08.61\00:24:10.48 not-yet wife, Darlene, this was 00:24:10.48\00:24:13.11 kind of my story. 00:24:13.11\00:24:14.12 I had this caveman philosophy. 00:24:14.12\00:24:16.02 "Me want wife. 00:24:17.35\00:24:19.05 Me find wife. 00:24:19.85\00:24:21.76 Ahh, she hot. 00:24:22.16\00:24:23.96 Me go after wife. 00:24:23.96\00:24:25.36 Yes. 00:24:25.36\00:24:26.29 She like me. 00:24:26.29\00:24:27.40 We date. 00:24:27.40\00:24:28.30 Two-year rule, we follow. 00:24:28.30\00:24:29.93 Yes. 00:24:29.93\00:24:30.77 We say 'I do.' 00:24:30.77\00:24:32.03 Me got wife! 00:24:32.03\00:24:33.64 Me now go play golf." 00:24:34.54\00:24:36.47 [laughter] 00:24:36.47\00:24:38.17 Okay? 00:24:38.17\00:24:39.01 And that caveman mentality can 00:24:40.58\00:24:43.01 have some sway. 00:24:43.01\00:24:44.18 I mean, it happens. 00:24:44.18\00:24:45.55 And it happens perhaps more 00:24:45.55\00:24:48.15 often than we would like 00:24:48.15\00:24:50.32 to think. 00:24:50.32\00:24:51.32 But the Bible is clear here. 00:24:51.82\00:24:53.46 God's wisdom is clear. 00:24:53.46\00:24:54.72 That's not how it's supposed 00:24:54.72\00:24:56.06 to be. 00:24:56.06\00:24:56.56 God calls us to spend quality 00:24:56.76\00:24:58.66 time with our spouses, and I 00:24:58.66\00:25:01.03 hope the principle is clear, not 00:25:01.03\00:25:03.03 just for 365 days. 00:25:03.03\00:25:05.10 God is trying to drive home a 00:25:06.03\00:25:07.27 point here. 00:25:07.27\00:25:07.94 Now, again, when I was seriously 00:25:07.94\00:25:09.34 dating Darlene, this idea and 00:25:09.34\00:25:11.51 practice of quality time, for 00:25:11.51\00:25:13.07 her, natural. 00:25:13.07\00:25:14.38 I mean just, this was, she was 00:25:14.38\00:25:15.54 right there with it, no problem 00:25:15.54\00:25:16.78 for her. 00:25:16.78\00:25:17.51 For me, I needed help. 00:25:17.91\00:25:20.15 I had little to no idea what God 00:25:20.15\00:25:21.72 meant when He asks us to spend 00:25:21.72\00:25:23.59 quality time with one's spouse. 00:25:23.59\00:25:25.35 For instance, one of the ways 00:25:25.35\00:25:27.62 that a married couple should 00:25:27.62\00:25:28.69 spend time together is by 00:25:28.69\00:25:30.29 talking with each other 00:25:30.29\00:25:31.86 regularly. 00:25:31.86\00:25:32.86 I remember, now this is before 00:25:33.90\00:25:35.33 we got married, not too long 00:25:35.33\00:25:36.20 before we got married, you know, 00:25:36.20\00:25:37.83 I was serious about trying to 00:25:37.83\00:25:38.90 get myself ready for this 00:25:38.90\00:25:40.34 relationship. 00:25:40.34\00:25:41.37 We had decided that we were 00:25:41.37\00:25:42.27 gonna read some books on 00:25:42.27\00:25:43.27 marriage. 00:25:43.27\00:25:43.87 One of the ones I read was 00:25:43.87\00:25:45.04 called His Needs, Her Needs by 00:25:45.04\00:25:47.08 Willard F. Harley. 00:25:47.08\00:25:48.41 And this is back in the 1990s so 00:25:48.41\00:25:50.41 the research may have changed 00:25:50.41\00:25:52.41 since then, I don't know. 00:25:52.41\00:25:54.15 But at that time, Harley, the 00:25:54.15\00:25:55.72 author of the book, had done 00:25:55.72\00:25:56.85 research on the number of words 00:25:56.85\00:26:00.12 that the average male and the 00:26:00.12\00:26:01.59 average female speak in a day. 00:26:01.59\00:26:04.29 So you gotta picture this, I'm 00:26:05.23\00:26:06.56 at my apartment complex there, I 00:26:06.56\00:26:08.56 had this little tiny apartment 00:26:08.56\00:26:09.63 and I'm at the laundromat. 00:26:09.63\00:26:11.63 I'm sitting on top of a dryer 00:26:11.63\00:26:13.57 reading this book, waiting for 00:26:13.57\00:26:15.07 my clothes to dry. 00:26:15.07\00:26:16.30 And I get to this section, talks 00:26:16.64\00:26:17.51 about spending quality time 00:26:17.51\00:26:18.61 together, okay, yeah, let's 00:26:18.61\00:26:19.97 learn about that. 00:26:19.97\00:26:21.14 And then he talks about talking 00:26:21.14\00:26:22.64 with your spouse, okay, what's-- 00:26:22.64\00:26:24.38 what do I do for that? 00:26:24.38\00:26:26.01 And he comes to this research 00:26:26.01\00:26:27.12 section. 00:26:27.12\00:26:27.75 "The average man," he says, 00:26:27.75\00:26:29.65 "speaks..." 00:26:29.65\00:26:30.59 Any guesses? 00:26:30.59\00:26:31.15 How many words in a day? 00:26:31.15\00:26:32.32 Who said two? 00:26:33.52\00:26:34.56 [audience laughter] 00:26:34.82\00:26:36.46 That was awful. 00:26:37.06\00:26:37.96 See me-- go to your room. 00:26:37.96\00:26:38.96 This is, yeah. 00:26:38.96\00:26:40.26 It's actually more than two. 00:26:40.63\00:26:41.93 Any guesses? 00:26:41.93\00:26:42.83 Three hundred? Oh my. 00:26:45.17\00:26:46.80 It's actually, I was a little 00:26:48.24\00:26:49.40 surprised, too, actually, I 00:26:49.40\00:26:50.67 don't fault any of these answers 00:26:50.67\00:26:51.71 here, 12,000 words. 00:26:51.71\00:26:53.78 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:26:54.78\00:26:55.71 Surprising, isn't it? 00:26:55.71\00:26:56.34 Twelve thousand words, okay? 00:26:56.34\00:26:58.25 And then Harley, the author 00:26:58.25\00:26:59.71 says, "Now the average woman 00:26:59.71\00:27:01.65 speaks..." 00:27:01.65\00:27:02.88 Oh, you skeptic's. 00:27:06.96\00:27:08.26 Twenty-five thousand words 00:27:10.76\00:27:11.99 a day. 00:27:11.99\00:27:12.89 Now, maybe that's all changed by 00:27:14.36\00:27:15.96 now in modern times, but in 00:27:15.96\00:27:17.63 those days, those were the fresh 00:27:17.63\00:27:18.57 stats. 00:27:18.57\00:27:19.30 And I remember very clearly, 00:27:19.30\00:27:20.77 this was my response, I'd be 00:27:20.77\00:27:21.90 reading, "The average man speaks 00:27:21.90\00:27:23.24 12,000, the average woman speaks 00:27:23.24\00:27:24.84 25,000?!" 00:27:24.84\00:27:26.57 You know, I said something out 00:27:27.34\00:27:28.31 loud, about fell off of the 00:27:28.31\00:27:29.24 laundry because I thought, how 00:27:29.24\00:27:30.75 am I gonna keep-- 00:27:30.75\00:27:31.41 You see, what I was picturing in 00:27:31.41\00:27:32.58 my mind is this, I'm gonna come 00:27:32.58\00:27:34.05 home after a long day from work 00:27:34.05\00:27:35.68 and my wife will only be halfway 00:27:35.68\00:27:37.62 done. 00:27:37.62\00:27:38.35 [laughter] 00:27:38.35\00:27:39.92 She's gonna wanna talk the 00:27:39.92\00:27:41.06 entire evening. 00:27:41.06\00:27:41.99 I thought, "Oh, what am I gonna 00:27:41.99\00:27:42.99 do, what am I gonna do?" 00:27:42.99\00:27:44.43 But I was serious about wanting 00:27:46.03\00:27:47.20 to have a good marriage, right? 00:27:47.20\00:27:48.73 I'd seen enough of things that 00:27:48.73\00:27:49.83 didn't work and I wanted my 00:27:49.83\00:27:50.87 marriage to work so we... 00:27:50.87\00:27:53.44 ...tried to work something out. 00:27:54.77\00:27:55.84 We actually had a-- we had some 00:27:55.84\00:27:56.97 practice sessions, right? 00:27:56.97\00:27:59.21 And I faced this with 00:27:59.21\00:28:00.11 trepidation and some of you 00:28:00.11\00:28:01.54 husbands may know what I mean. 00:28:01.54\00:28:02.71 I mean, if your wife says to 00:28:02.71\00:28:04.38 you, "Honey, let's talk." 00:28:04.38\00:28:06.25 What do you say? 00:28:06.98\00:28:08.25 "Why? What's wrong?" 00:28:08.92\00:28:11.62 Yeah, exactly. Okay? 00:28:11.62\00:28:13.36 And this was my thoughts. 00:28:13.36\00:28:14.76 Okay, so we made, you know, this 00:28:14.76\00:28:17.43 practice time here, okay? 00:28:17.43\00:28:19.09 And I remember it very clearly, 00:28:19.09\00:28:21.80 we-- it was at the end of the 00:28:21.80\00:28:22.66 day and I was sitting on the 00:28:22.66\00:28:24.50 sofa on this end, and she was 00:28:24.50\00:28:25.73 sitting on the sofa on this end 00:28:25.73\00:28:27.24 like this. 00:28:27.24\00:28:28.00 And so, okay, we're here, you 00:28:28.00\00:28:28.80 know, it's the time we're gonna 00:28:28.80\00:28:30.11 practice this now. 00:28:30.11\00:28:30.84 So I said, "You start." 00:28:30.84\00:28:32.64 And she says, "Okay. 00:28:34.21\00:28:35.44 How was your day?" 00:28:36.68\00:28:38.11 What do you think I said? 00:28:40.58\00:28:41.92 "Fine." 00:28:42.15\00:28:43.02 Yes. 00:28:43.02\00:28:43.75 She said, "No, you have to do 00:28:44.65\00:28:45.39 better than that." 00:28:45.39\00:28:45.99 I said, "Well, like, what? 00:28:45.99\00:28:46.82 What do you wanna know?" 00:28:46.82\00:28:47.66 She said, "Well, who did you 00:28:47.66\00:28:48.36 see?" 00:28:48.36\00:28:49.16 I said, "Well, the church 00:28:50.06\00:28:51.66 secretary was there and the 00:28:51.66\00:28:53.29 custodian was there and I had a 00:28:53.29\00:28:55.10 few people that I met with." 00:28:55.10\00:28:56.56 She said, "What were they 00:28:57.17\00:28:58.03 wearing?" 00:28:58.03\00:28:58.87 [laughter] 00:28:59.47\00:29:01.10 "Wearing? 00:29:01.74\00:29:02.60 I mean, I don't know. 00:29:02.60\00:29:03.34 I mean, clothes. 00:29:03.34\00:29:04.24 I have no idea what they were 00:29:04.24\00:29:05.31 wearing," right? 00:29:05.31\00:29:06.68 She said, "Well, what did you 00:29:06.68\00:29:07.54 talk about?" right? 00:29:07.54\00:29:08.34 So this was genuinely painful. 00:29:08.34\00:29:10.08 I mean, it was wooden, right? 00:29:10.08\00:29:11.18 It just-- but I really wanted to 00:29:11.18\00:29:13.75 have a good marriage. 00:29:13.75\00:29:15.12 I wanted to do things, I wanted 00:29:15.12\00:29:16.28 to pick up these skills that 00:29:16.28\00:29:17.39 obviously I did not have. 00:29:17.39\00:29:18.85 So we worked at it and as wooden 00:29:18.85\00:29:20.49 as it was, over time it became 00:29:20.49\00:29:23.36 almost natural. 00:29:23.36\00:29:24.79 You see, God is trying to send a 00:29:26.63\00:29:29.80 message here in Deuteronomy. 00:29:29.80\00:29:31.93 He's trying to say God kept 00:29:31.93\00:29:33.90 those warriors home for a year 00:29:33.90\00:29:35.37 to teach them that spending 00:29:35.37\00:29:37.37 quality time with their spouse 00:29:37.37\00:29:39.21 was essential to a happy forever 00:29:39.21\00:29:42.28 marriage. 00:29:42.28\00:29:43.31 And practically speaking, one of 00:29:43.31\00:29:44.88 those things that it means is 00:29:44.88\00:29:46.31 just talking together, talking 00:29:46.31\00:29:48.48 about life, making time 00:29:48.48\00:29:50.29 each day. 00:29:50.29\00:29:50.89 This would be my counsel to you, 00:29:50.99\00:29:52.49 whether your marriage is soaring 00:29:52.49\00:29:53.89 on the wings of eagles or if 00:29:53.89\00:29:55.39 you're down in the pits of 00:29:55.39\00:29:56.66 despair, make a decision that 00:29:56.66\00:29:58.89 there will be time each day that 00:29:58.89\00:30:00.30 you will sit down and that you 00:30:00.30\00:30:01.43 will talk. 00:30:01.43\00:30:02.23 Now, if you're not in the habit 00:30:02.80\00:30:03.67 of doing this, you say, "What do 00:30:03.67\00:30:04.43 we talk about?" 00:30:04.43\00:30:05.17 Well, talk about the basic 00:30:05.17\00:30:06.47 things of life. 00:30:06.47\00:30:07.47 Talk about where you went, who 00:30:07.87\00:30:08.90 you saw, what they talked about. 00:30:08.90\00:30:10.67 Gentlemen, if you can remember 00:30:10.67\00:30:11.57 what they were wearing, share 00:30:11.57\00:30:12.44 that information. 00:30:12.44\00:30:13.11 My wife's face lights up when I 00:30:13.11\00:30:14.51 remember those things, you know, 00:30:14.51\00:30:16.01 these mundane things. 00:30:16.01\00:30:17.55 Here's the secret about this 00:30:17.55\00:30:19.35 type of conversation, when you 00:30:19.35\00:30:22.58 have this type of regular basic 00:30:22.58\00:30:25.92 day-to-day conversation with 00:30:25.92\00:30:27.76 your spouse, you not only get to 00:30:27.76\00:30:30.59 know them, you get to trust 00:30:30.59\00:30:33.60 them. 00:30:33.60\00:30:34.56 You say, "Well, wait a second. 00:30:37.27\00:30:38.20 We got married, we said "I do," 00:30:38.20\00:30:39.57 I mean, don't we don't we trust 00:30:39.57\00:30:40.84 each other? 00:30:40.84\00:30:41.84 Nature abhors a vacuum. 00:30:44.11\00:30:45.81 If your spouse doesn't know what 00:30:46.74\00:30:47.98 you do each day, how can you 00:30:47.98\00:30:50.05 really say that they know you? 00:30:50.05\00:30:52.81 And so now when my wife asks me, 00:30:54.28\00:30:55.98 "How was your day?" 00:30:55.98\00:30:57.32 I know how to answer. 00:30:57.32\00:30:58.49 I know how to go through those 00:30:59.12\00:31:00.29 things. 00:31:00.29\00:31:01.02 And there is a genuine part of 00:31:01.02\00:31:02.19 me that enjoys doing those types 00:31:02.19\00:31:04.46 of things. 00:31:04.46\00:31:05.29 Husbands, wives, if you don't 00:31:05.86\00:31:07.03 yet have a time like this, make 00:31:07.03\00:31:08.23 it, make a schedule. 00:31:08.23\00:31:09.20 Just go ahead and be wooden and 00:31:09.20\00:31:10.67 say, "Well, Pastor Shane can 00:31:10.67\00:31:11.47 muddle through that, so can I," 00:31:11.47\00:31:12.67 okay? 00:31:12.67\00:31:13.50 Make that time and talk to each 00:31:13.50\00:31:14.67 other. 00:31:14.67\00:31:15.50 Another way to spend quality 00:31:15.50\00:31:16.67 time together, consider making a 00:31:16.67\00:31:17.97 date night. 00:31:17.97\00:31:18.97 You can do this once a month, I 00:31:18.97\00:31:20.31 would encourage you, if you can, 00:31:20.31\00:31:21.21 to do it once a week. 00:31:21.21\00:31:22.71 It's a time when just you and 00:31:22.71\00:31:23.68 your spouse can get away. 00:31:23.68\00:31:24.91 It doesn't have to be fancy, you 00:31:24.91\00:31:25.98 don't even have to spend any 00:31:25.98\00:31:26.98 money. 00:31:26.98\00:31:27.62 You can go for a walk together, 00:31:27.68\00:31:28.72 you can spend time walking 00:31:28.72\00:31:31.15 through-- 00:31:31.15\00:31:31.95 My wife and I, we used to go to 00:31:31.95\00:31:32.99 Home Depot and we would just 00:31:32.99\00:31:35.66 window shop, right? 00:31:35.66\00:31:37.56 "Well, what do you think about 00:31:37.56\00:31:38.49 that light over there?" 00:31:38.49\00:31:39.73 "Oh, that's pretty cool." 00:31:39.73\00:31:40.70 You know, "How about this shower 00:31:40.70\00:31:42.50 over here," you know. 00:31:42.50\00:31:43.23 Things-- we didn't have any 00:31:43.23\00:31:44.10 money, we couldn't have bought 00:31:44.10\00:31:45.07 these things, but it was just 00:31:45.07\00:31:46.00 window shopping, and it helped 00:31:46.00\00:31:47.24 to lead to day-to-day 00:31:47.24\00:31:48.10 conversations that were 00:31:48.10\00:31:49.17 excellent. 00:31:49.17\00:31:49.94 If you have children, find a 00:31:49.94\00:31:51.34 good babysitter. 00:31:51.34\00:31:52.54 They will be enriched in their 00:31:52.54\00:31:53.71 wallet and you will be enriched 00:31:53.71\00:31:55.18 in your souls. 00:31:55.18\00:31:56.34 Make that time and that way, 00:31:56.34\00:31:58.71 even if you don't get a 00:31:58.71\00:32:00.18 day-to-day time to talk about 00:32:00.18\00:32:02.15 this, you know, say it's a 00:32:02.15\00:32:03.25 really busy week, you know that 00:32:03.25\00:32:04.92 date night is coming. 00:32:04.92\00:32:06.05 It's a great backstop to keep 00:32:06.05\00:32:08.12 the lines of communication open. 00:32:08.12\00:32:10.26 Now, if you are serious about 00:32:10.89\00:32:12.26 this quality talking time, you 00:32:12.26\00:32:14.46 will quickly find that it is not 00:32:14.46\00:32:15.80 always easy to schedule. 00:32:15.80\00:32:17.10 Remember, we talked about the 00:32:17.10\00:32:18.03 world warring against your 00:32:18.03\00:32:18.97 marriage last week? 00:32:18.97\00:32:20.17 It is oh so true. 00:32:20.17\00:32:21.47 So I just wanna encourage you, 00:32:21.97\00:32:23.00 be brutal with your schedule, be 00:32:23.00\00:32:26.31 brutal with it. 00:32:26.31\00:32:27.28 Don't let anything stand in the 00:32:27.28\00:32:28.71 way from this type of 00:32:28.71\00:32:30.08 connection. 00:32:30.08\00:32:31.08 So I wanna give you a little 00:32:33.95\00:32:34.72 challenge 00:32:34.72\00:32:35.65 on this key. 00:32:35.65\00:32:36.65 Be brave, ask your wife, ask 00:32:37.69\00:32:40.22 your husband, "Do you think we 00:32:40.22\00:32:42.12 are spending enough quality time 00:32:42.12\00:32:43.99 together? 00:32:43.99\00:32:45.29 Do you think we are talking 00:32:45.29\00:32:46.29 enough with each other?" 00:32:46.29\00:32:47.83 In fact, maybe ask them to 00:32:48.33\00:32:49.93 assign a number between one and 00:32:49.93\00:32:51.73 five, okay, to rate the level of 00:32:51.73\00:32:53.30 your quality time together. 00:32:53.30\00:32:54.94 A five means you're doing great. 00:32:54.94\00:32:56.47 You're like two starlings 00:32:56.47\00:32:57.74 sitting regularly on a power 00:32:57.74\00:32:58.71 pole, chatting away to both of 00:32:58.71\00:32:59.84 your heart's content, okay? 00:32:59.84\00:33:01.48 A one means that you're like two 00:33:01.91\00:33:03.48 monks that have taken a vow of 00:33:03.48\00:33:04.78 silence and something is 00:33:04.78\00:33:05.91 probably gonna have to change, 00:33:05.91\00:33:07.05 right? 00:33:07.05\00:33:08.05 Be honest, listen to each 00:33:08.05\00:33:09.32 other's answers, and then ask 00:33:09.32\00:33:11.15 God for the strength to make any 00:33:11.15\00:33:13.22 necessary changes and make them. 00:33:13.22\00:33:15.26 And guess what, guess what? 00:33:15.26\00:33:17.33 If you regularly spend quality 00:33:18.06\00:33:20.70 time with your spouse, for most 00:33:20.70\00:33:23.03 couples, at least two things 00:33:23.03\00:33:25.07 will sooner or later become true 00:33:25.07\00:33:26.50 for you. 00:33:26.50\00:33:27.10 Number one, you will begin to 00:33:27.20\00:33:28.87 experience the deep abiding 00:33:28.87\00:33:30.51 companionship that comes from 00:33:30.51\00:33:31.84 such regular interaction. 00:33:31.84\00:33:33.38 It may take some time, keep at 00:33:33.38\00:33:34.71 it, regular practice of sharing 00:33:34.71\00:33:36.78 your lives and quality time 00:33:36.78\00:33:38.45 together can work wonders for a 00:33:38.45\00:33:40.62 previously distant couple. 00:33:40.62\00:33:42.25 And second, if you regularly 00:33:43.18\00:33:45.45 spend quality time together, 00:33:45.45\00:33:47.29 then when something truly nasty 00:33:47.29\00:33:48.79 comes down the pike, a problem 00:33:48.79\00:33:50.63 that threatens to rock your 00:33:50.63\00:33:51.89 whole marriage, well, by then, 00:33:51.89\00:33:53.86 your communication level with 00:33:53.86\00:33:55.13 each-- will be such with each 00:33:55.13\00:33:56.46 other that you are on or nearly 00:33:56.46\00:33:58.43 on the same page, you're on the 00:33:58.43\00:34:00.10 same wavelength, and potential 00:34:00.10\00:34:02.40 disasters, many of them can be 00:34:02.40\00:34:04.37 reduced to mere bumps in the 00:34:04.37\00:34:06.17 marriage road. 00:34:06.17\00:34:07.41 If you have walked with each 00:34:08.04\00:34:08.98 other when the seas of life are 00:34:08.98\00:34:10.51 calm, it makes it that much 00:34:10.51\00:34:13.05 easier to tackle life when 00:34:13.05\00:34:14.78 things get stormy. 00:34:14.78\00:34:16.48 We'll talk more about 00:34:19.12\00:34:19.92 communication problems and 00:34:19.92\00:34:21.12 conflict resolution in part 00:34:21.12\00:34:22.29 three. 00:34:22.29\00:34:23.19 But until then, I want to 00:34:23.19\00:34:24.53 encourage you strongly, please 00:34:24.53\00:34:26.29 start this practice today. 00:34:26.29\00:34:28.16 It is so important to spend 00:34:28.16\00:34:29.76 quality time with your spouse. 00:34:29.76\00:34:33.23 That's the first key. 00:34:35.40\00:34:36.50 There is a second key to finding 00:34:37.77\00:34:41.71 happiness forever after you say 00:34:41.71\00:34:43.95 "I do." 00:34:43.95\00:34:44.75 Take a look at Matthew chapter 00:34:44.75\00:34:46.01 19, verse 3. 00:34:46.01\00:34:47.85 So on page 663 in your pew 00:34:48.32\00:34:50.42 Bible, 663. 00:34:50.42\00:34:52.42 Matthew Chapter 19, 00:34:52.42\00:34:54.42 beginning with verse 3. 00:34:54.42\00:34:56.62 Matthew, chapter 19, we find 00:34:59.86\00:35:01.13 Jesus here in what sadly was 00:35:01.13\00:35:03.00 kind of a common situation for 00:35:03.00\00:35:04.70 Him during the later part of His 00:35:04.70\00:35:05.83 ministry. 00:35:05.83\00:35:06.84 Jesus had His 12 disciples, 00:35:06.84\00:35:08.40 they, of course, were on His 00:35:08.40\00:35:09.70 side, big supporters, but in 00:35:09.70\00:35:11.94 public, often Jesus was opposed 00:35:11.94\00:35:14.41 by those that did not appreciate 00:35:14.41\00:35:15.88 what He was doing, including 00:35:15.88\00:35:18.05 opposition from a group called 00:35:18.05\00:35:19.11 the Pharisees. 00:35:19.11\00:35:20.48 The Pharisees were religious 00:35:20.48\00:35:21.35 leaders, they were experts in 00:35:21.35\00:35:22.95 the law, and many of them did 00:35:22.95\00:35:23.99 not appreciate Jesus or His 00:35:23.99\00:35:25.45 ministry so they would try to 00:35:25.45\00:35:26.76 publicly embarrass Him with 00:35:26.76\00:35:29.19 difficult, sometimes supposedly 00:35:29.19\00:35:31.39 "trick" questions. 00:35:31.39\00:35:33.03 And that's what's about to 00:35:33.03\00:35:33.76 happen here. 00:35:33.76\00:35:34.40 Verse 3, "So some Pharisees came 00:35:34.40\00:35:36.67 to Him," that is to Jesus, "to 00:35:36.67\00:35:37.90 test Him. 00:35:37.90\00:35:38.73 They asked, 'Is it lawful for a 00:35:38.73\00:35:40.90 man to divorce his wife for any 00:35:40.90\00:35:43.47 and every reason?' 00:35:43.47\00:35:44.97 'Haven't you read?' Jesus 00:35:45.87\00:35:47.11 replied, 'that at the beginning 00:35:47.11\00:35:49.08 the Creator made them male and 00:35:49.08\00:35:51.28 female and said, "For this 00:35:51.28\00:35:52.95 reason a man will leave his 00:35:52.95\00:35:54.45 father and mother and be united 00:35:54.45\00:35:55.92 to his wife and the two will 00:35:55.92\00:35:57.15 become one flesh?'" 00:35:57.15\00:35:58.49 So they are no longer two 00:35:59.02\00:36:01.06 but one.' 00:36:01.06\00:36:02.06 Therefore, what God has joined 00:36:02.59\00:36:04.93 together, let no one separate.'" 00:36:04.93\00:36:07.96 Now pause for just a moment. 00:36:09.46\00:36:10.93 This is exactly what the 00:36:11.70\00:36:13.23 Pharisees had been hoping for, 00:36:13.23\00:36:15.24 because they have what they 00:36:15.24\00:36:16.77 think is a sure fire question to 00:36:16.77\00:36:19.24 come back at Him and get Him. 00:36:19.24\00:36:21.18 Verse 7, "'Why then,' they 00:36:22.14\00:36:24.15 asked, 'did Moses command that a 00:36:24.15\00:36:26.05 man give his wife a certificate 00:36:26.05\00:36:27.55 of divorce and send her away?'" 00:36:27.55\00:36:29.75 Now, let's notice carefully 00:36:29.75\00:36:30.55 here. 00:36:30.55\00:36:31.19 The Bible never commanded it. 00:36:31.25\00:36:32.99 It allowed it, but there's quite 00:36:32.99\00:36:33.72 a difference between an 00:36:33.72\00:36:35.49 allowance and a command, 00:36:35.49\00:36:36.39 is there not? 00:36:36.39\00:36:37.16 Jesus knows this, He replies, 00:36:38.03\00:36:39.46 verse 8, "Jesus replied, 'Moses 00:36:39.46\00:36:41.16 permitted you to divorce your 00:36:41.16\00:36:42.90 wives because your hearts were 00:36:42.90\00:36:44.83 hard, but it was not this way 00:36:44.83\00:36:47.00 from the beginning. 00:36:47.00\00:36:48.14 I tell you that anyone who 00:36:48.14\00:36:49.54 divorces his wife, except for 00:36:49.54\00:36:51.14 marital unfaithfulness and 00:36:51.14\00:36:52.51 marries another woman, commits 00:36:52.51\00:36:54.54 adultery.'" 00:36:54.54\00:36:55.48 And here comes the clincher, 00:36:56.11\00:36:57.25 verse 10. 00:36:57.25\00:36:58.25 "The disciples said to Him, 'If 00:36:58.61\00:37:01.22 this is the situation between a 00:37:01.22\00:37:02.95 husband and wife, it is better 00:37:02.95\00:37:04.82 not to marry.'" 00:37:04.82\00:37:06.02 I mean, Jesus, if I gotta stay 00:37:07.69\00:37:09.12 with the woman, forget it! 00:37:09.12\00:37:10.86 A second key to finding a 00:37:16.10\00:37:17.50 marriage that lasts happily and 00:37:17.50\00:37:19.77 forever is this: put the 00:37:19.77\00:37:22.90 scissors in your marriage. 00:37:22.90\00:37:26.04 Put the scissors in your 00:37:27.84\00:37:30.65 marriage. 00:37:30.65\00:37:31.28 You say, "What on earth does 00:37:31.28\00:37:32.55 that mean?" 00:37:32.55\00:37:33.55 So the disciples here cannot 00:37:34.52\00:37:36.32 believe, and actually, sadly, 00:37:36.32\00:37:38.05 the disciples were not alone, 00:37:38.05\00:37:39.55 they were all in disbelief at 00:37:39.55\00:37:40.52 what Jesus was saying here. 00:37:40.52\00:37:42.02 In those days, the value of 00:37:42.02\00:37:43.22 marriage had fallen way, way, 00:37:43.22\00:37:45.33 way low. 00:37:45.33\00:37:46.33 You see, it was heavily skewed 00:37:47.23\00:37:48.76 in favor of the husband. 00:37:48.76\00:37:50.00 The husband could indeed 00:37:50.00\00:37:51.10 divorce, according to local 00:37:51.10\00:37:52.27 tradition there that had been in 00:37:52.27\00:37:53.44 place for some time, actually, 00:37:53.44\00:37:55.14 they could divorce their wife 00:37:55.14\00:37:56.17 for any and every reason. 00:37:56.17\00:37:57.44 In fact, some collections of 00:37:57.44\00:37:59.01 these traditions actually name 00:37:59.01\00:38:00.78 "burning a meal." 00:38:00.78\00:38:02.41 So if the wife burnt food for 00:38:02.41\00:38:03.75 supper, the husband could 00:38:03.75\00:38:05.18 divorce her and she would be in 00:38:05.18\00:38:06.82 a terrible way because the law 00:38:06.82\00:38:08.58 did not allow any recourse 00:38:08.58\00:38:09.68 for her. 00:38:09.68\00:38:10.35 He could move on and do what he 00:38:10.35\00:38:11.92 wished to do. 00:38:11.92\00:38:13.02 Marriage was extremely 00:38:13.02\00:38:14.76 undervalued and the disciples 00:38:14.76\00:38:16.19 are just, they're, I mean, 00:38:16.19\00:38:16.96 they're a product of their 00:38:16.96\00:38:17.73 times in this regard. 00:38:17.73\00:38:18.96 Jesus, if you have to stay with 00:38:18.96\00:38:20.73 the same woman, forget it! 00:38:20.73\00:38:22.93 It's better not to get married! 00:38:22.93\00:38:24.57 And yet Jesus' command was 00:38:26.07\00:38:27.57 crystal clear. 00:38:27.57\00:38:28.24 "Jesus said, 'Therefore, what 00:38:28.24\00:38:29.97 God has joined together, let no 00:38:29.97\00:38:33.71 one separate.'" 00:38:33.71\00:38:36.11 In other words, again, put the 00:38:37.88\00:38:41.15 scissors in your marriage. 00:38:41.15\00:38:44.29 Now, as it just so happens I 00:38:45.22\00:38:46.35 have a pair of scissors here 00:38:46.35\00:38:47.52 with me. 00:38:47.52\00:38:48.39 And I also have a piece of paper 00:38:49.06\00:38:50.16 with me. 00:38:50.16\00:38:51.43 This is good planning on 00:38:51.43\00:38:52.26 someone's part, I assume. 00:38:52.26\00:38:53.29 Yes? 00:38:53.29\00:38:54.03 These scissors, I hope you never 00:38:55.03\00:38:56.10 look at a pair of scissors in 00:38:56.10\00:38:57.60 the same way again. 00:38:57.60\00:38:58.93 A pair of scissors is like a 00:38:59.80\00:39:02.44 husband and a wife. 00:39:02.44\00:39:04.41 And if the marriage is healthy, 00:39:05.57\00:39:08.11 the husband and the wife are 00:39:08.11\00:39:10.35 working together in tandem and 00:39:10.35\00:39:13.08 they are enabled to cut a strong 00:39:13.08\00:39:16.92 path through life. 00:39:16.92\00:39:18.82 And if troubles come their way, 00:39:19.69\00:39:21.36 if something attempts to come 00:39:21.36\00:39:23.29 between them, if they are 00:39:23.29\00:39:25.43 healthy and working together, 00:39:25.43\00:39:27.30 then they will cut right through 00:39:27.30\00:39:30.83 that problem or that obstacle 00:39:30.83\00:39:33.30 and that challenge. 00:39:33.30\00:39:34.37 That's what happens when in a 00:39:35.37\00:39:36.47 healthy where you put the 00:39:36.47\00:39:37.94 scissors in your marriage. 00:39:37.94\00:39:41.08 But when scissors aren't working 00:39:41.08\00:39:43.35 well, all manner of things can 00:39:43.35\00:39:46.92 go wrong. 00:39:46.92\00:39:47.92 Instead of the scissors being 00:39:47.92\00:39:49.22 able to cut through whatever the 00:39:49.22\00:39:50.89 obstacle is, they get stuck and 00:39:50.89\00:39:53.29 something comes between husband 00:39:53.29\00:39:55.16 and wife. 00:39:55.16\00:39:55.99 Sometimes it happens quickly. 00:39:55.99\00:39:57.13 Most of the time it happens 00:39:57.13\00:39:58.66 slowly. 00:39:58.66\00:39:59.66 An affair, for instance. 00:40:00.23\00:40:01.63 There's drifting apart. 00:40:02.30\00:40:03.60 Someone meets someone else. 00:40:04.10\00:40:05.37 There's secrecy. 00:40:06.10\00:40:07.40 Damage for generations is done. 00:40:08.64\00:40:10.37 Workaholism comes in. 00:40:11.44\00:40:13.44 Classic case, you know, a 00:40:13.44\00:40:14.61 husband, a wife dedicated to 00:40:14.61\00:40:16.24 their career more than they are 00:40:16.24\00:40:17.28 to their spouse and the scissors 00:40:17.28\00:40:18.71 aren't working like they're 00:40:18.71\00:40:20.25 supposed to. 00:40:20.25\00:40:21.25 Sometimes it's a hobby, 00:40:22.05\00:40:23.55 sometimes other distraction. 00:40:23.55\00:40:25.19 Whatever it might be, there are 00:40:25.82\00:40:26.99 times when the scissors are not 00:40:26.99\00:40:28.52 in place, that something comes 00:40:28.52\00:40:30.99 between husband and wife. 00:40:30.99\00:40:33.16 And, again, the damage can go on 00:40:33.73\00:40:35.20 for years to come. 00:40:35.20\00:40:36.63 Let it be crystal clear... 00:40:39.67\00:40:41.04 ...nothing but God takes 00:40:42.77\00:40:45.24 precedence over your marriage. 00:40:45.24\00:40:47.24 [AUDIENCE] Amen. 00:40:50.68\00:40:51.81 >> I thought maybe somebody had 00:40:52.75\00:40:53.72 turned off the sound and we'd 00:40:53.72\00:40:54.68 kind of magically 00:40:54.68\00:40:55.78 [unintelligible]. 00:40:55.78\00:40:56.79 Nothing but God takes precedence 00:40:56.79\00:40:58.79 over your marriage. 00:40:58.79\00:41:00.82 After God, everything else. 00:41:00.82\00:41:02.76 As important as it may truly be, 00:41:02.76\00:41:04.39 must fall into its proper line 00:41:04.39\00:41:06.06 after the well-being of your 00:41:06.06\00:41:08.26 marriage. 00:41:08.26\00:41:09.43 Just to be very specific, when 00:41:10.77\00:41:12.53 it comes to putting the scissors 00:41:12.53\00:41:13.50 in marriage to removing 00:41:13.50\00:41:14.50 obstacles that are there, this 00:41:14.50\00:41:16.50 can mean some very specific 00:41:16.50\00:41:17.51 things. 00:41:17.51\00:41:18.01 For instance, no porn. 00:41:18.01\00:41:19.71 No pornography. 00:41:21.18\00:41:22.34 You know, most people know that 00:41:23.65\00:41:24.55 intuitively. 00:41:24.55\00:41:25.21 If you're listening right now 00:41:25.21\00:41:26.08 and you're not sure that 00:41:26.08\00:41:27.02 pornography is a bad thing, let 00:41:27.02\00:41:28.22 me just assure you, history is 00:41:28.22\00:41:29.92 replete with a bazillion 00:41:29.92\00:41:31.29 examples that show that 00:41:31.29\00:41:32.25 pornography only destroys, it 00:41:32.25\00:41:33.99 does not help, and it has no 00:41:33.99\00:41:36.36 place, soft or hard porn, 00:41:36.36\00:41:39.33 in your marriage relationship. 00:41:39.33\00:41:41.00 If you are stuck in the mire of 00:41:41.53\00:41:43.20 pornography and you want to get 00:41:43.20\00:41:44.77 out, you know there are-- there, 00:41:44.77\00:41:46.03 statistically speaking, there 00:41:46.03\00:41:46.70 are some women that are involved 00:41:46.70\00:41:47.57 with it, overwhelmingly, 00:41:47.57\00:41:49.00 generally it's guys. 00:41:49.00\00:41:50.34 And if you are stuck in 00:41:50.87\00:41:52.14 pornography and you want to get 00:41:52.14\00:41:53.31 out, I wanna give you very 00:41:53.31\00:41:54.58 briefly some resources, 00:41:54.58\00:41:56.28 gatewaytowholeness.com, 00:41:56.28\00:41:59.05 gatewaytowholeness.com. 00:41:59.05\00:42:00.98 That's W-H-O-L-E-N-E-S-S, 00:42:00.98\00:42:03.35 gatewaytowholeness.com. 00:42:03.35\00:42:04.82 What address did I say? 00:42:04.82\00:42:06.29 [AUDIENCE] 00:42:06.59\00:42:07.59 Gatewaytowholeness.com. 00:42:07.59\00:42:09.02 That is a General Conference of 00:42:09.02\00:42:10.29 Seventh-day Adventist website 00:42:10.29\00:42:11.73 and I am very pleased to say it 00:42:11.73\00:42:13.40 is excellent. 00:42:13.40\00:42:14.60 Not only is Gateway to 00:42:14.60\00:42:15.76 Wholeness, it is a course, and 00:42:15.76\00:42:16.83 an anonymous one, you don't have 00:42:16.83\00:42:18.13 to turn in any identifying 00:42:18.13\00:42:19.20 information to get into it. 00:42:19.20\00:42:20.97 If you go to the resource tab on 00:42:20.97\00:42:22.97 that website, on 00:42:22.97\00:42:24.11 gatewaytowholeness.com, you will 00:42:24.11\00:42:25.84 find a slew of things that can 00:42:25.84\00:42:27.61 help you. 00:42:27.61\00:42:28.48 Books, other programs, support 00:42:28.48\00:42:30.98 groups, other ways for you to be 00:42:30.98\00:42:32.35 able to get into counseling if 00:42:32.35\00:42:33.92 that's what you need. 00:42:33.92\00:42:35.08 It is an immense resource, 00:42:35.08\00:42:36.28 Gateway to Wholeness. 00:42:36.28\00:42:37.12 I am very proud to have this. 00:42:37.12\00:42:38.79 And by the way, if you're not a 00:42:38.79\00:42:39.82 member of the Seventh-day 00:42:39.82\00:42:40.86 Adventist Church, don't worry 00:42:40.86\00:42:42.16 about it. 00:42:42.16\00:42:42.76 This is for anyone that is 00:42:42.76\00:42:44.16 struggling with pornography. 00:42:44.16\00:42:45.46 Just two other books that I want 00:42:45.46\00:42:46.53 to give you, the titles for. 00:42:46.53\00:42:47.76 False Intimacy: Understanding 00:42:47.76\00:42:49.40 the Struggle of Sexual 00:42:49.40\00:42:50.60 Addiction. 00:42:50.60\00:42:51.60 False Intimacy: Understanding 00:42:51.60\00:42:52.47 the Struggle of Sexual 00:42:52.47\00:42:53.80 Addiction, and the second one is 00:42:53.80\00:42:55.24 called The Porn Trap, The Porn 00:42:55.24\00:42:57.87 Trap: The Essential Guide to 00:42:57.87\00:42:59.31 Overcoming Problems Caused By 00:42:59.31\00:43:01.14 Pornography. 00:43:01.14\00:43:01.91 Both of those are readily 00:43:01.91\00:43:02.71 available on Amazon, you can 00:43:02.71\00:43:04.15 pick these things up. 00:43:04.15\00:43:05.38 Don't let pornography destroy 00:43:05.38\00:43:08.42 your marriage. 00:43:08.42\00:43:09.55 You don't have to be a slave any 00:43:10.75\00:43:11.75 longer. 00:43:11.75\00:43:12.59 Second thing, if the scissors 00:43:13.82\00:43:15.66 are working in your marriage, 00:43:15.66\00:43:17.43 then your spouse has no 00:43:17.43\00:43:19.09 exclusive opposite-sex friends, 00:43:19.09\00:43:21.76 period. 00:43:21.76\00:43:22.76 Your spouse has no exclusive 00:43:23.67\00:43:25.37 opposite-sex friends. 00:43:25.37\00:43:26.80 Now, just in case that's a 00:43:27.37\00:43:28.34 little fuzzy, that when Darlene 00:43:28.34\00:43:29.87 and I got married, we had to do 00:43:29.87\00:43:31.41 some reshuffling of our friends 00:43:31.41\00:43:33.44 because there were some of those 00:43:33.44\00:43:34.31 friends that were just our 00:43:34.31\00:43:35.94 friends. 00:43:35.94\00:43:36.71 And there was, you know, for 00:43:36.71\00:43:37.85 whatever reason there was-- 00:43:37.85\00:43:38.78 that was not gonna be also my 00:43:38.78\00:43:39.65 wife's friend or my friend. 00:43:39.65\00:43:41.45 Those friends went away. 00:43:41.82\00:43:43.52 Because if there are exclusive 00:43:45.39\00:43:46.82 friends that a husband has 00:43:46.82\00:43:48.46 that's female or wife has that's 00:43:48.46\00:43:49.59 male, the odds of their 00:43:49.59\00:43:51.19 developing an inappropriate 00:43:51.19\00:43:52.39 relationship can really go up 00:43:52.39\00:43:54.56 quite dramatically. 00:43:54.56\00:43:55.36 In fact, I would even add this 00:43:55.36\00:43:56.36 to this, don't even spend large 00:43:56.36\00:43:58.23 amounts of time with an opposite 00:43:58.23\00:44:00.37 sex acquaintance, even if 00:44:00.37\00:44:02.24 they're both of your friends. 00:44:02.24\00:44:03.77 You see, God wired us in a 00:44:04.54\00:44:05.71 certain way. 00:44:05.71\00:44:06.61 If we spend significant time 00:44:06.61\00:44:08.91 with someone of the opposite sex 00:44:08.91\00:44:10.71 and it's just the two of us and 00:44:10.71\00:44:11.75 it's important, whatever it is 00:44:11.75\00:44:12.98 that we're doing, the natural 00:44:12.98\00:44:14.48 response is for a relationship 00:44:14.48\00:44:16.72 to develop. 00:44:16.72\00:44:17.72 So let's just play this out. 00:44:17.72\00:44:18.75 Let's say that there's a guy who 00:44:18.75\00:44:19.95 has a job and there's a, you 00:44:19.95\00:44:21.09 know, there's a big project 00:44:21.09\00:44:22.26 that's come up and it requires 00:44:22.26\00:44:23.49 him to do some overtime. 00:44:23.49\00:44:24.69 So the boss says, "Well, I want 00:44:24.69\00:44:25.99 you and so-and-so," and she's 00:44:25.99\00:44:27.60 female, "to spend time after 00:44:27.60\00:44:29.43 work, you know, doing this type 00:44:29.43\00:44:30.70 of thing." 00:44:30.70\00:44:31.60 You know, on the face of it, 00:44:31.60\00:44:32.43 that's like, "Well, I mean, this 00:44:32.43\00:44:33.44 is professional world, 00:44:33.44\00:44:34.44 everything's gonna to go fine." 00:44:34.44\00:44:35.80 Be careful, be very careful and 00:44:36.74\00:44:40.54 do what you can to avoid those 00:44:40.54\00:44:41.94 situations. 00:44:41.94\00:44:43.18 You see, one of the surest ways 00:44:43.85\00:44:46.68 to end up in an affair is to 00:44:46.68\00:44:48.75 believe that you could never end 00:44:48.75\00:44:50.39 up in an affair. 00:44:50.39\00:44:51.89 Because then your guard is down 00:44:53.39\00:44:55.49 and you violate the rules. 00:44:55.49\00:44:57.03 Maybe you don't even-- maybe 00:44:57.03\00:44:58.23 you're not even aware that you 00:44:58.23\00:44:59.16 are violating them. 00:44:59.16\00:45:00.50 Moving on. 00:45:02.40\00:45:03.40 Some of you may also need to 00:45:03.77\00:45:04.67 adjust the way that your kids 00:45:04.67\00:45:05.93 are prioritized. 00:45:05.93\00:45:07.24 You know, a handful of marriages 00:45:07.24\00:45:08.77 over the years where I've seen 00:45:08.77\00:45:10.44 them put too much focus on their 00:45:10.44\00:45:12.21 marriage to the detriment of 00:45:12.21\00:45:13.41 their children. 00:45:13.41\00:45:14.51 Usually it's kind of the other 00:45:14.51\00:45:15.21 way around. 00:45:15.21\00:45:15.88 Now, part of that's unavoidable. 00:45:15.88\00:45:17.61 Those of you that have 00:45:17.61\00:45:18.38 youngsters that are toddlers 00:45:18.38\00:45:19.48 right now, they're moving 00:45:19.48\00:45:20.22 around. 00:45:20.22\00:45:20.98 Man, it is sometimes challenging 00:45:20.98\00:45:23.22 to keep your marriage 00:45:23.22\00:45:23.99 relationship healthy. 00:45:23.99\00:45:24.92 Do the best you can with what 00:45:24.92\00:45:25.95 the Lord sends your way, okay? 00:45:25.95\00:45:27.49 But if you begin to sense that 00:45:28.22\00:45:30.16 you are neglecting your marriage 00:45:30.16\00:45:31.93 over the long haul, that this is 00:45:31.93\00:45:33.26 really making a serious dent, I 00:45:33.26\00:45:34.76 would strongly encourage you to 00:45:34.76\00:45:36.33 stop and look at that. 00:45:36.33\00:45:37.47 Children need all that we can 00:45:38.07\00:45:39.80 give them, but they also need to 00:45:39.80\00:45:41.64 have a very healthy marriage 00:45:41.64\00:45:43.20 between mom and dad. 00:45:43.20\00:45:44.67 The stability that is there when 00:45:45.47\00:45:47.64 a strong marriage is present and 00:45:47.64\00:45:49.38 the instability when that 00:45:49.38\00:45:50.85 relationship is rocky. 00:45:50.85\00:45:52.25 Save yourself the pain. 00:45:53.31\00:45:55.02 Keep a tight understanding of 00:45:55.02\00:45:56.45 what's healthy in this balance 00:45:56.45\00:45:57.95 between children and your 00:45:57.95\00:45:59.29 marriage. 00:45:59.29\00:46:00.36 And of course, I couldn't leave 00:46:01.02\00:46:02.86 this idea of cutting things out 00:46:02.86\00:46:04.49 of your marriage that are 00:46:04.49\00:46:05.59 necessary to be cut out without 00:46:05.59\00:46:06.90 talking about hobbies and 00:46:06.90\00:46:08.53 pastimes. 00:46:08.53\00:46:09.53 You know, caveman golf. 00:46:10.07\00:46:11.23 I did a fair amount of that back 00:46:11.23\00:46:12.53 in the day. 00:46:12.53\00:46:13.40 I didn't have much money. 00:46:13.40\00:46:14.54 I was on denominational pay 00:46:14.54\00:46:15.57 scale, but I had friends that 00:46:15.57\00:46:16.77 smiled on me and so they would 00:46:16.77\00:46:18.21 take me out and we would go 00:46:18.21\00:46:18.91 golfing quite a bit. 00:46:18.91\00:46:19.94 And there were definitely times 00:46:20.28\00:46:21.88 when I had to scale back. 00:46:21.88\00:46:24.28 Because even a hobby, seemingly 00:46:24.95\00:46:26.72 harmless, can come between a 00:46:26.72\00:46:28.72 husband and a wife. 00:46:28.72\00:46:29.98 Again, I want to gently 00:46:33.96\00:46:34.79 challenge you, for those of you 00:46:34.79\00:46:36.46 that are married, ask each other 00:46:36.46\00:46:38.73 the questions, are the scissors 00:46:38.73\00:46:40.90 here in our relationship? 00:46:40.90\00:46:42.33 Are they sharp? 00:46:42.33\00:46:43.43 Is there anything or anyone 00:46:43.43\00:46:44.53 right now that has stopped the 00:46:44.53\00:46:46.47 blades from cutting like they're 00:46:46.47\00:46:47.70 supposed to? 00:46:47.70\00:46:48.80 Do it or they need to be cut? 00:46:48.80\00:46:51.31 And if the answer is yes, then 00:46:51.31\00:46:52.94 go to it. 00:46:52.94\00:46:53.71 Cut that thing away. 00:46:53.71\00:46:55.28 It may be painful for a moment 00:46:55.78\00:46:57.21 because, after all, sometimes 00:46:57.21\00:46:58.45 it's your ego or your 00:46:58.45\00:46:59.45 selfishness that gets chopped. 00:46:59.45\00:47:01.18 But there are few better ways to 00:47:02.25\00:47:03.95 show your spouse that you truly 00:47:03.95\00:47:05.72 care for them than by cutting 00:47:05.72\00:47:07.56 away the obstacles that threaten 00:47:07.56\00:47:09.62 your intimacy. 00:47:09.62\00:47:10.76 Put the scissors in your 00:47:10.76\00:47:12.76 marriage. 00:47:12.76\00:47:13.56 What God has joined together, 00:47:13.56\00:47:15.63 let no man, no woman, no thing 00:47:15.63\00:47:18.90 separate. 00:47:18.90\00:47:19.90 That's the second key to having 00:47:22.17\00:47:24.37 a marriage that lasts happily 00:47:24.37\00:47:25.51 and forever after you say 00:47:25.51\00:47:26.94 "I do." 00:47:26.94\00:47:27.94 There is a third. 00:47:28.51\00:47:29.54 Take a look at Philippians 00:47:30.61\00:47:31.71 chapter 4, please. 00:47:31.71\00:47:32.95 Philippians 4, beginning with 00:47:32.95\00:47:34.85 verse 10. 00:47:34.85\00:47:35.58 It's on page 792 in your pew 00:47:35.58\00:47:38.19 Bible, page 792. 00:47:38.19\00:47:39.75 Philippians chapter 4, beginning 00:47:40.76\00:47:43.63 with verse 10. 00:47:43.63\00:47:44.69 A guy by the name of Paul, 00:47:44.69\00:47:45.76 sometimes referred to as the 00:47:45.76\00:47:46.66 Apostle Paul, he is the writer 00:47:46.66\00:47:47.86 of this letter. 00:47:47.86\00:47:48.83 This is a new church in the city 00:47:49.36\00:47:51.67 of Philippi, thus the name 00:47:51.67\00:47:53.20 "Philippians," and it is a happy 00:47:53.20\00:47:54.90 book. 00:47:54.90\00:47:55.90 If you're feeling depressed, you 00:47:55.90\00:47:57.11 know, come January, February, 00:47:57.11\00:47:58.27 when the sun do not shine on 00:47:58.27\00:47:59.84 southwest Michigan, pull open 00:47:59.84\00:48:01.54 the book of Philippians and it 00:48:01.54\00:48:02.58 will put a smile on your face. 00:48:02.58\00:48:03.81 It's just a happy rejoicing 00:48:03.81\00:48:04.98 book. 00:48:04.98\00:48:05.98 What makes that all the more 00:48:05.98\00:48:07.98 incredible is that Paul himself 00:48:07.98\00:48:11.22 is under serious duress from the 00:48:11.22\00:48:14.29 Roman government. 00:48:14.29\00:48:15.72 The Romans did not appreciate 00:48:15.72\00:48:16.69 Paul's preaching of the gospel, 00:48:16.69\00:48:18.59 at least not always, and right 00:48:18.59\00:48:20.20 now, when this is being written, 00:48:20.20\00:48:21.36 he is experiencing pretty 00:48:21.36\00:48:22.50 significant hardship and this is 00:48:22.50\00:48:24.33 what he nonetheless says, verse 00:48:24.33\00:48:26.30 10 of chapter 4, "I rejoice 00:48:26.30\00:48:29.04 greatly in the Lord that at last 00:48:29.04\00:48:31.87 You have renewed Your concern 00:48:31.87\00:48:33.21 for me," speaking to the 00:48:33.21\00:48:33.94 Philippian Church. 00:48:33.94\00:48:35.21 "Indeed, You have been 00:48:35.21\00:48:36.14 concerned, but You had no 00:48:36.14\00:48:37.05 opportunity to show it. 00:48:37.05\00:48:38.51 I am not saying this because I 00:48:38.51\00:48:40.65 am in need." 00:48:40.65\00:48:41.85 Wow. 00:48:41.85\00:48:42.48 "For I have learned to be 00:48:42.85\00:48:44.52 content, whatever the 00:48:44.52\00:48:46.42 circumstances. 00:48:46.42\00:48:47.49 I know what it is to be in need 00:48:48.02\00:48:49.79 and I know what it is to have 00:48:49.79\00:48:51.06 plenty. 00:48:51.06\00:48:51.83 I have learned the secret of 00:48:51.83\00:48:54.36 being content in any and every 00:48:54.36\00:48:56.46 situation, whether well-fed or 00:48:56.46\00:48:58.50 hungry, whether living in plenty 00:48:58.50\00:49:00.70 or in..." what? 00:49:00.70\00:49:01.50 And I'm thinking, well, what's 00:49:01.50\00:49:02.37 the secret, Paul? 00:49:02.37\00:49:03.17 Here it is, verse 13, "I can do 00:49:03.17\00:49:06.37 everything through Jesus Christ 00:49:06.37\00:49:09.41 who gives me strength." 00:49:09.41\00:49:11.68 Wow! 00:49:12.55\00:49:13.55 You know, for some people, the 00:49:16.28\00:49:17.62 smaller problems in marriage 00:49:17.62\00:49:19.39 stay smaller problems, and maybe 00:49:19.39\00:49:22.16 it's because of their 00:49:22.16\00:49:23.09 personality or their bent or 00:49:23.09\00:49:23.96 whatever, those things are 00:49:23.96\00:49:24.96 fairly easy to tackle. 00:49:24.96\00:49:26.70 They might be irritating for a 00:49:26.70\00:49:28.06 bit, but they're relatively 00:49:28.06\00:49:28.80 easy. 00:49:28.80\00:49:29.66 You know, I think of when my 00:49:29.66\00:49:31.80 wife was pregnant with my first 00:49:31.80\00:49:33.07 daughter, she was on bed rest 00:49:33.07\00:49:34.27 for 17 weeks. 00:49:34.27\00:49:35.64 It was terrible, wasn't it? 00:49:38.17\00:49:39.11 I don't even know if they 00:49:39.11\00:49:40.04 understand what that means. 00:49:40.04\00:49:41.34 That's-- like, in bed 00:49:41.34\00:49:42.31 for 17 weeks. 00:49:42.31\00:49:43.11 Everybody go, [gasps]. 00:49:43.11\00:49:44.55 Okay, she feels better now. 00:49:45.05\00:49:46.05 Yeah, she was feeling a little 00:49:46.05\00:49:46.88 bit left out. 00:49:46.88\00:49:47.85 Seventeen weeks. 00:49:47.85\00:49:48.62 And unfortunately, to add insult 00:49:48.62\00:49:50.32 to injury, this was in our 00:49:50.32\00:49:51.82 little microscopic apartment. 00:49:51.82\00:49:54.29 I mean, even germs had to duck 00:49:54.29\00:49:55.79 in order to get into our house. 00:49:55.79\00:49:57.13 It was just small, okay? 00:49:57.13\00:49:58.96 And in the living room is where 00:49:58.96\00:50:00.33 we kind of set up shop for 00:50:00.33\00:50:01.50 Darlene so that she could be on 00:50:01.50\00:50:03.26 bed rest, but at least kind of 00:50:03.26\00:50:04.23 be, you know, have some society 00:50:04.23\00:50:06.10 of some sort. 00:50:06.10\00:50:07.27 And so it was a hide-a-bed in a 00:50:07.27\00:50:08.87 sofa and we opened that up into 00:50:08.87\00:50:10.54 the living room and it just 00:50:10.54\00:50:11.94 devoured the living room. 00:50:11.94\00:50:13.34 And so I would come in there to, 00:50:13.81\00:50:15.91 you know, go from this part of 00:50:15.91\00:50:18.25 the niche to the next part of 00:50:18.25\00:50:19.88 the niche where the kitchen was, 00:50:19.88\00:50:21.38 and I've got big feet and my big 00:50:21.38\00:50:23.82 feet would often hit the frame 00:50:23.82\00:50:27.66 of the bed of a woman who was 00:50:27.66\00:50:30.23 very interested in not being 00:50:30.23\00:50:32.03 jiggled at that point, okay? 00:50:32.03\00:50:33.90 Now in first service I mentioned 00:50:34.23\00:50:35.26 that I would very frequently do 00:50:35.26\00:50:36.50 it and she said, "That is not 00:50:36.50\00:50:37.57 true. 00:50:37.57\00:50:38.43 You did it all the time," okay? 00:50:38.43\00:50:40.40 But she never told me about 00:50:41.47\00:50:43.00 this. 00:50:43.00\00:50:43.81 She finally decided, "You know 00:50:44.31\00:50:45.51 what? 00:50:45.51\00:50:46.14 I've got bigger fish to fry 00:50:46.14\00:50:47.84 right now than worrying about my 00:50:47.84\00:50:49.64 husband's big feet, getting me 00:50:49.64\00:50:51.31 something more from the 00:50:51.31\00:50:52.31 kitchen." 00:50:52.31\00:50:53.05 So disaster averted. 00:50:53.52\00:50:55.75 I think of a friend of mine, 00:50:56.12\00:50:57.25 newly married, turns out his 00:50:57.25\00:50:59.05 wife chewed popcorn very loudly. 00:50:59.05\00:51:01.59 I didn't even know that was 00:51:03.06\00:51:03.79 possible, but apparently there 00:51:03.79\00:51:04.93 are some popcorns that can be 00:51:04.93\00:51:06.06 heard. 00:51:06.06\00:51:07.03 So they're sitting next to each 00:51:07.03\00:51:07.86 other watching a movie, she's 00:51:07.86\00:51:08.86 eating popcorn, crunch, crunch, 00:51:08.86\00:51:10.10 crunch, crunch, crunch, and he's 00:51:10.10\00:51:11.50 thinking, "Oh, this is driving 00:51:11.50\00:51:12.47 me crazy. 00:51:12.47\00:51:13.10 But you know what? 00:51:13.10\00:51:13.97 This is my problem. 00:51:13.97\00:51:15.20 I will just move." 00:51:15.20\00:51:16.44 Not quite realizing how awkward 00:51:17.67\00:51:19.04 that is when you're the only two 00:51:19.04\00:51:20.01 people in the room and you stand 00:51:20.01\00:51:20.88 up from your new spouse and sit 00:51:20.88\00:51:22.28 on the other side, another place 00:51:22.28\00:51:23.55 there. 00:51:23.55\00:51:24.28 But he solved the problem and 00:51:24.81\00:51:26.51 disaster was once again, it was 00:51:26.51\00:51:28.88 diverted. 00:51:28.88\00:51:29.88 These kinds of problems, many 00:51:31.29\00:51:32.85 couples can navigate them, but 00:51:32.85\00:51:34.26 the sad truth is that every one 00:51:34.26\00:51:38.06 of us has a selfishly inclined 00:51:38.06\00:51:41.13 heart. 00:51:41.13\00:51:42.13 Every one of us has an ego that 00:51:42.76\00:51:44.53 sooner or later will demand 00:51:44.53\00:51:46.47 recognition. 00:51:46.47\00:51:47.47 "I am right," we will say, "I 00:51:47.47\00:51:48.97 deserve to win this argument 00:51:48.97\00:51:50.37 with my spouse. 00:51:50.37\00:51:51.37 They are not being fair. 00:51:51.37\00:51:52.61 I must have satisfaction." 00:51:52.61\00:51:54.78 And for so many couples, the 00:51:56.08\00:51:58.45 disagreements, whether it's 00:51:58.45\00:52:00.12 popcorn or shoes hitting bed 00:52:00.12\00:52:01.55 frames, they can escalate beyond 00:52:01.55\00:52:04.49 those things and couples can 00:52:04.49\00:52:06.05 find themselves wanting to 00:52:06.05\00:52:07.59 scream or even to leave their 00:52:07.59\00:52:09.49 marriage to get relief. 00:52:09.49\00:52:10.73 And thousands have shouted, 00:52:10.73\00:52:12.06 actually or internally, "I can't 00:52:12.06\00:52:14.56 take this! 00:52:14.56\00:52:15.40 I can't do it anymore!" 00:52:15.40\00:52:17.37 And they are absolutely correct. 00:52:24.91\00:52:28.64 They can't do it anymore. 00:52:30.45\00:52:33.92 Not by themselves. 00:52:34.85\00:52:38.72 The third key to a successful 00:52:41.39\00:52:43.99 forever marriage relationship is 00:52:43.99\00:52:47.50 to let God fuel your marriage. 00:52:47.50\00:52:51.23 Let God fuel your marriage. 00:52:52.20\00:52:56.24 You know, if the only fuel for 00:52:58.11\00:52:59.14 your marriage is you, I'll be 00:52:59.14\00:53:01.18 honest, good luck. 00:53:01.18\00:53:02.31 Good luck to you. 00:53:03.71\00:53:04.81 Hope that works out. 00:53:04.81\00:53:05.81 I really do wish you the best, 00:53:05.81\00:53:07.15 okay? 00:53:07.15\00:53:07.92 Because when your ego kicks in 00:53:08.35\00:53:10.29 and it will kick in, then the 00:53:10.29\00:53:12.15 fuel level in your marriage 00:53:12.15\00:53:13.66 tank, if it's just you, that's 00:53:13.66\00:53:14.66 the fuel for it, that fuel level 00:53:14.66\00:53:16.42 will drop like a rock. 00:53:16.42\00:53:18.39 But when God is your fuel, your 00:53:19.96\00:53:22.63 tank never runs dry. 00:53:22.63\00:53:25.63 When God is your fuel, something 00:53:26.43\00:53:28.00 supernatural takes place in the 00:53:28.00\00:53:30.01 human heart. 00:53:30.01\00:53:30.91 It can't be measured in a lab, 00:53:30.91\00:53:32.21 you can't see it with a 00:53:32.21\00:53:33.04 microscope, but oh, what a 00:53:33.04\00:53:34.38 difference God makes. 00:53:34.38\00:53:36.14 And when we walk with God, His 00:53:36.75\00:53:38.25 specialty is taking selfishness 00:53:38.25\00:53:40.28 and turning it into generosity. 00:53:40.28\00:53:42.05 Now, I wanna be real clear about 00:53:42.05\00:53:43.02 this, I am not talking about a 00:53:43.02\00:53:44.75 natural event. 00:53:44.75\00:53:45.79 This is divine intervention, and 00:53:45.79\00:53:47.26 God specializes in these things, 00:53:47.26\00:53:49.26 He knows exactly how to do it. 00:53:49.26\00:53:50.96 You know, one of my mentors, he 00:53:52.13\00:53:54.36 passed away a number of years 00:53:54.36\00:53:55.36 ago, we were together for many 00:53:55.36\00:53:57.10 years and he had something that 00:53:57.10\00:53:58.87 he said so often that what I'm 00:53:58.87\00:54:00.80 gonna share with you next 00:54:00.80\00:54:01.97 essentially is a quote, probably 00:54:01.97\00:54:03.64 not exact for each time, but he 00:54:03.64\00:54:05.31 said it many times. 00:54:05.31\00:54:06.31 Here's what he said, quote, 00:54:06.31\00:54:08.04 "Marriage is like a mirror that 00:54:08.04\00:54:10.81 shows your greatest triumphs and 00:54:10.81\00:54:14.05 your most glaring flaws, but I 00:54:14.05\00:54:16.69 am so grateful for being shown 00:54:16.69\00:54:18.55 my flaws because it enables me 00:54:18.55\00:54:20.29 to acknowledge them, give them 00:54:20.29\00:54:21.89 to God, and become a better 00:54:21.89\00:54:23.56 person. 00:54:23.56\00:54:24.56 Sometimes when my marriage shows 00:54:25.09\00:54:27.13 me my flaws, it takes me several 00:54:27.13\00:54:29.03 hours in my woodshop before I am 00:54:29.03\00:54:30.83 sufficiently grateful. 00:54:30.83\00:54:32.30 But with God's help I am always 00:54:34.24\00:54:36.77 able to do it." 00:54:36.77\00:54:38.51 And a little secret about 00:54:40.38\00:54:41.21 marriage, some of you have 00:54:41.21\00:54:42.68 thought that marriage was about 00:54:42.68\00:54:45.01 you loving another person. 00:54:45.01\00:54:47.32 As it turns out, marriage may 00:54:48.58\00:54:50.52 actually be even more about God 00:54:50.52\00:54:52.75 preparing you for His kingdom. 00:54:52.75\00:54:55.06 It is a school unlike any other, 00:54:56.19\00:54:58.56 and those who are willing to 00:54:58.56\00:54:59.76 submit to its discipline, there 00:54:59.76\00:55:02.16 is no limit to where God can 00:55:02.16\00:55:04.43 take them. 00:55:04.43\00:55:05.43 So why not let God be the fuel 00:55:06.63\00:55:07.87 for your marriage? 00:55:07.87\00:55:08.74 You say, "How do you do that?" 00:55:08.74\00:55:09.77 Very simple, things like this, 00:55:09.77\00:55:11.24 pray, pray by yourself, ask for 00:55:11.24\00:55:13.44 God's blessing in your life. 00:55:13.44\00:55:15.04 Pray together, pray with your 00:55:15.04\00:55:16.04 spouse. 00:55:16.04\00:55:16.91 You know, sometimes guys in 00:55:16.91\00:55:17.88 particular, this can be 00:55:17.88\00:55:18.71 difficult for us, I just wanna 00:55:18.71\00:55:19.58 say grind it out, do it. 00:55:19.58\00:55:21.38 You will be blessed if you do. 00:55:21.38\00:55:23.25 Go to church together, go to 00:55:23.25\00:55:24.35 places like this where you can 00:55:24.35\00:55:26.22 hear what God is saying, how to 00:55:26.22\00:55:27.59 have God as fuel in your 00:55:27.59\00:55:28.79 marriage. 00:55:28.79\00:55:29.66 Make friends with godly people 00:55:29.66\00:55:31.09 that have good marriages, 00:55:31.09\00:55:32.49 surround yourself with people 00:55:32.49\00:55:33.73 that will encourage you in your 00:55:33.73\00:55:34.73 marriage relationship. 00:55:34.73\00:55:36.33 Read a Bible based book on 00:55:36.33\00:55:37.67 marriage together. 00:55:37.67\00:55:38.77 Some of the most fruitful times 00:55:38.77\00:55:39.80 in Darlene's and mine's 00:55:39.80\00:55:41.04 relationship has been when we 00:55:41.04\00:55:42.54 have sat down to listen to what 00:55:42.54\00:55:43.81 somebody else thinks about 00:55:43.81\00:55:45.24 marriage and God. 00:55:45.24\00:55:46.71 It's been a tremendous learning 00:55:46.71\00:55:47.78 experience. 00:55:47.78\00:55:48.78 Do whatever it takes to let God 00:55:48.78\00:55:51.01 be the fuel for your marriage. 00:55:51.01\00:55:53.25 And then when the impossible is 00:55:53.92\00:55:57.35 asked of you and your ego rises 00:55:57.35\00:56:01.22 up and your marriage faces 00:56:01.22\00:56:02.56 obstacles that you know you 00:56:02.56\00:56:04.19 cannot overcome by yourself, God 00:56:04.19\00:56:07.23 will be there just as He's 00:56:07.23\00:56:09.96 always been, and He will get you 00:56:09.96\00:56:12.37 through when you both put your 00:56:12.37\00:56:14.34 trust in Him and let Him fuel 00:56:14.34\00:56:17.01 your marriage. 00:56:17.01\00:56:18.37 So you want happiness to extend 00:56:20.28\00:56:21.58 beyond "I do?" 00:56:21.58\00:56:22.61 You wanna develop a marriage 00:56:23.85\00:56:24.88 that makes you crave for even 00:56:24.88\00:56:26.25 more years together? 00:56:26.25\00:56:27.82 Then do what God in His Word has 00:56:28.48\00:56:30.52 called us to do, spend regular 00:56:30.52\00:56:32.42 quality time together, put the 00:56:32.42\00:56:34.12 scissors into your marriage and 00:56:34.12\00:56:35.52 cut away anything or any person 00:56:35.52\00:56:36.86 that would rob you of a happy 00:56:36.86\00:56:38.56 marriage, and let God fuel your 00:56:38.56\00:56:42.10 marriage. 00:56:42.10\00:56:43.03 By the grace of God, it is a 00:56:43.03\00:56:45.27 great way after you say "I do" 00:56:45.27\00:56:47.87 to create a marriage that lasts 00:56:47.87\00:56:49.77 happily and forever. 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