The following program discusses sensitive issues. 00:00:06.60\00:00:09.07 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:00:09.10\00:00:11.01 may be too candid for younger children. 00:00:11.04\00:00:13.38 Hi, welcome to the Pure Choices. 00:00:46.78\00:00:49.11 I'll be your host for today's program. 00:00:49.14\00:00:51.31 My name is Myesha Lawson. 00:00:51.35\00:00:53.58 Let me introduce my wonderful panel today, 00:00:53.62\00:00:56.52 my husband, Timothy Lawson, 00:00:56.55\00:00:59.32 Brittany Morales, Jacques LaGuerre, 00:00:59.35\00:01:02.86 and Xavier Morales. 00:01:02.89\00:01:05.39 Today's title is The World's Oldest Profession. 00:01:05.43\00:01:10.57 But before we begin let us pray. 00:01:10.60\00:01:15.10 Dear Lord, I ask that you be with us 00:01:15.14\00:01:17.97 as we do this program, Lord, and for the viewer out there, 00:01:18.01\00:01:21.28 I ask that you open there mind and hearts 00:01:21.31\00:01:23.21 to receive a blessing, Lord. 00:01:23.24\00:01:25.55 In Jesus' name, amen. 00:01:25.58\00:01:27.62 Amen. Amen. 00:01:27.65\00:01:29.95 Today, we're gonna be talking about prostitution. 00:01:29.98\00:01:33.56 It's a very, very touching subject, 00:01:33.59\00:01:38.23 I lived with it for many years. 00:01:38.26\00:01:41.20 So, let us begin, but before that, 00:01:41.23\00:01:44.87 I would like to give you the definition of prostitution. 00:01:44.90\00:01:49.84 "The practise or occupation of engaging in sexual activity 00:01:49.87\00:01:55.61 with someone for payment. 00:01:55.64\00:01:59.51 The unworthy or corrupt use of one's talents 00:01:59.55\00:02:03.99 for the sake of personal or financial gain." 00:02:04.02\00:02:10.43 Now, that stuck out to me when I read it 00:02:10.46\00:02:13.80 because I experienced both types of prostitution. 00:02:13.83\00:02:19.70 So the first question is, 00:02:19.73\00:02:22.90 when and where prostitution first begin? 00:02:22.94\00:02:29.11 Well, 00:02:29.14\00:02:30.98 we don't have a thorough knowledge on the subject. 00:02:31.01\00:02:33.15 I can remember reading from the Bible 00:02:33.18\00:02:36.58 where it first begin 00:02:36.62\00:02:37.95 when God was counselling the children of Israel, 00:02:37.99\00:02:41.29 not to engage in this practise. 00:02:41.32\00:02:43.32 And I think there's a verse that says, 00:02:43.36\00:02:45.73 "That you shall now worship the Lord, 00:02:45.76\00:02:47.20 your God like the nation of the other land, 00:02:47.23\00:02:50.40 don't make your kid out for the price of a dog, 00:02:50.43\00:02:54.27 or the higher of a whore." 00:02:54.30\00:02:56.71 Something to that effect 00:02:56.74\00:02:58.37 and those words in the Bible means temple prostitute. 00:02:58.41\00:03:02.54 And if you go back and see some of the earliest records, 00:03:02.58\00:03:04.88 Babylon being one of the first earliest civilisations, 00:03:04.91\00:03:08.85 when they have prostitution they had it, 00:03:08.88\00:03:11.65 in the form of worship. 00:03:11.69\00:03:13.15 Worship for there other Gods, especially the fertility Gods, 00:03:13.19\00:03:16.56 they would have temple prostitute 00:03:16.59\00:03:18.19 that you can pay fee for 00:03:18.23\00:03:20.20 and engage in a sexual activity dedicated toward there Gods. 00:03:20.23\00:03:25.93 To pay back on what Tim says, 00:03:25.97\00:03:28.27 in ancient Babylon, you have the Goddess Ishtar. 00:03:28.30\00:03:31.91 And every Babylonian women 00:03:31.94\00:03:33.34 would have to serve in the temple. 00:03:33.38\00:03:35.78 And as part of her basic initiation 00:03:35.81\00:03:40.02 she would have to sit down in the temple, 00:03:40.05\00:03:42.15 and in any man that came by and threw a coin her lap, 00:03:42.18\00:03:45.79 she would then have to go and have sex with him. 00:03:45.82\00:03:48.72 And this was worship to there false Babylonian God. 00:03:48.76\00:03:53.60 That's really good, 00:03:53.63\00:03:54.96 because when I've done, like the past I have done research, 00:03:55.00\00:03:58.67 they were saying that, 00:03:58.70\00:04:00.04 oh, it was popular in the 18th century, right? 00:04:00.07\00:04:04.41 And I'm like, I would think it started before then, 00:04:04.44\00:04:08.08 but okay, so. 00:04:08.11\00:04:09.88 But I'm thank you for that information 00:04:09.91\00:04:11.91 that it started in the Bible days. 00:04:11.95\00:04:15.78 So why is prostitution so popular? 00:04:15.82\00:04:20.32 It's easy money, you know. 00:04:20.36\00:04:22.99 It meets both pleasure, 00:04:23.02\00:04:24.39 in both aspects in the physical and in the monitory, 00:04:24.43\00:04:27.56 you know. 00:04:27.60\00:04:28.96 People usually now, especially nowadays they want money 00:04:29.00\00:04:32.17 and they want more sex, so they combined both. 00:04:32.20\00:04:36.00 And in lot of times, 00:04:36.04\00:04:37.37 you know, they may feel like 00:04:37.41\00:04:38.74 they're the person paying for it may not feel like, 00:04:38.77\00:04:41.98 may feel like its good 00:04:42.01\00:04:43.35 because they don't have an emotional attachment 00:04:43.38\00:04:45.41 to anybody. 00:04:45.45\00:04:46.78 Yeah. 00:04:46.82\00:04:48.15 You know, the Bible says, 00:04:48.18\00:04:49.62 "The love of money, you know, is the root of all evil." 00:04:49.65\00:04:52.85 So for financial, or wealthy gain 00:04:52.89\00:04:55.72 men and women will do almost anything, 00:04:55.76\00:04:58.76 including not only sell their bodies 00:04:58.79\00:05:01.50 but, you know, sell another person's body. 00:05:01.53\00:05:03.77 And so living in the culture and society that we do, 00:05:03.80\00:05:08.37 there's a high value placed on getting well 00:05:08.40\00:05:11.47 but not on morals, as it was. 00:05:11.51\00:05:14.41 As long as you have money to take care of yourself, 00:05:14.44\00:05:16.71 you're fine, no matter how you get it. 00:05:16.75\00:05:19.15 And like Xavier was saying, 00:05:19.18\00:05:22.05 to feed the carnal nature for men or women 00:05:22.08\00:05:24.75 who just want sex without the attachment, 00:05:24.79\00:05:27.39 it's seems like a good arrangement for them. 00:05:27.42\00:05:29.76 And it's easy instead of, if I want to, 00:05:29.79\00:05:34.26 yes, I wasn't married and I wanted to have sex, 00:05:34.30\00:05:36.60 I would have to work on building that relationship 00:05:36.63\00:05:39.53 with the person, work on getting on that guy 00:05:39.57\00:05:42.47 to want get on his knee, and purpose. 00:05:42.50\00:05:44.97 Then go to the process of whole engagement, wedding. 00:05:45.01\00:05:48.38 It's a long process versus for prostitution, 00:05:48.41\00:05:51.38 I don't have worry if the person loves me, 00:05:51.41\00:05:54.25 likes me. 00:05:54.28\00:05:55.62 All I have to do is give them few dollars, 00:05:55.65\00:05:57.59 depending on the type of prostitution, 00:05:57.62\00:05:59.75 prostitute, just give me a few dollars, 00:05:59.79\00:06:01.89 I get what I need, move on. 00:06:01.92\00:06:04.66 Right. 00:06:04.69\00:06:06.03 Okay, so now, today, society is like so, 00:06:06.06\00:06:11.93 it's so easy nowadays to just resort to this profession. 00:06:11.97\00:06:16.67 I mean, even men, nowadays guys want to become pimps, 00:06:16.71\00:06:21.24 it's like very popular, you know, 00:06:21.28\00:06:23.95 or women wants to prostitute. 00:06:23.98\00:06:26.82 And you know, do you feel that it comes from the media, 00:06:26.85\00:06:31.32 you know, the things that they are watching? 00:06:31.35\00:06:32.99 And I want talk about, you know, 00:06:33.02\00:06:35.12 where the guys getting this influence, 00:06:35.16\00:06:36.79 like, to become pimps, and you know, 00:06:36.83\00:06:40.26 women are becoming prostitutes, because of the media. 00:06:40.30\00:06:44.33 Well, you know, 00:06:44.37\00:06:45.70 when you look at just the mainstream media now 00:06:45.73\00:06:48.20 it's telling men 00:06:48.24\00:06:49.57 that, they all need to have some sort of harem. 00:06:49.60\00:06:52.41 You know, we all need to be King Solomon, 00:06:52.44\00:06:55.21 before his conversion, 00:06:55.24\00:06:56.58 you know, with 700 wives, and 300 concubines. 00:06:56.61\00:07:00.75 And we see that 00:07:00.78\00:07:02.12 in a digital form of pornography. 00:07:02.15\00:07:04.19 You know, just have your harem, 00:07:04.22\00:07:05.79 have all this different women and have control over them. 00:07:05.82\00:07:09.16 Because when you have a women on a screen, 00:07:09.19\00:07:12.13 in essence you are pimp, you can press Pause, 00:07:12.16\00:07:14.40 you press Play, you can rewind, 00:07:14.43\00:07:16.67 you can do everything like that. 00:07:16.70\00:07:18.27 And so, even for men that won't go 00:07:18.30\00:07:21.07 and basically, have a whole lot of women on a corner 00:07:21.10\00:07:25.57 and controlling them, 00:07:25.61\00:07:27.41 they all becoming pimps in their own homes. 00:07:27.44\00:07:32.48 Also, its kind a glamorized sometime in the media, 00:07:32.51\00:07:36.82 you see, in different songs, in different genre, 00:07:36.85\00:07:40.79 you see heavy emphasis on guys 00:07:40.82\00:07:43.66 who's a, who is a pimp or p-i-m-p 00:07:43.69\00:07:46.43 or he has a lot of women, and he has a lot of money. 00:07:46.46\00:07:50.13 And so you know, 00:07:50.17\00:07:51.50 they glamorize it like a something cool to be, 00:07:51.53\00:07:53.67 something fascinating to be, its something fun to be. 00:07:53.70\00:07:55.80 And also movies glamorize it. 00:07:55.84\00:07:58.31 They, they show different movies 00:07:58.34\00:08:01.34 that kind a down play the ugly side of it. 00:08:01.38\00:08:03.81 So that you don't see the ugly side, 00:08:03.85\00:08:05.45 but the dam play like a good side of it, 00:08:05.48\00:08:07.72 or even if the movies shows is bad, 00:08:07.75\00:08:11.05 what the movie tries to tell you is, 00:08:11.09\00:08:12.45 you can do this for little bit, you know, and be safe, 00:08:12.49\00:08:15.09 and then maybe you'll come up out of it. 00:08:15.12\00:08:16.79 But, that's not the case for lot of people who are in it. 00:08:16.83\00:08:19.89 That's right, that is right. 00:08:19.93\00:08:21.70 They, on media they do down play it, 00:08:21.73\00:08:24.37 you know, there is a ugly a side. 00:08:24.40\00:08:27.67 I mean these, you know, the pimps out there, 00:08:27.70\00:08:30.54 they are abusing of or forcing these young girls 00:08:30.57\00:08:34.81 to prostitute themselves, 00:08:34.84\00:08:36.18 or prostitute for them to make money. 00:08:36.21\00:08:40.15 They'll, sexually assault them, they'll will beat them. 00:08:40.18\00:08:44.12 They call it they call it a "gorilla pimp," okay, 00:08:44.15\00:08:48.19 that's the terminology that they use 00:08:48.22\00:08:50.83 in today's society. 00:08:50.86\00:08:52.33 And it just totally wrong, 00:08:52.36\00:08:55.53 you know there girls out there that are trap, it's a trap. 00:08:55.56\00:08:59.20 Girls out there have a no way out, 00:08:59.23\00:09:02.54 no, they're not even in a safe environment. 00:09:02.57\00:09:04.81 I mean, think about it, 00:09:04.84\00:09:06.44 your women going to a man you don't even know. 00:09:06.47\00:09:10.48 You don't know what he can do to you 00:09:10.51\00:09:13.58 or what he's capable of. 00:09:13.62\00:09:15.88 You know, what mental state he's in, 00:09:15.92\00:09:19.39 and your going, and your thinking that, 00:09:19.42\00:09:22.22 oh, I'm just gonna go make this little money. 00:09:22.26\00:09:24.69 And you might not be able to walk out alive. 00:09:24.73\00:09:29.40 So let's talk about the different levels 00:09:29.43\00:09:32.03 to this profession. 00:09:32.07\00:09:34.94 So we know that, there are different levels, 00:09:34.97\00:09:38.37 there is lower levels, there is "high levels." 00:09:38.41\00:09:42.08 To me, it's all the same. So what do you think? 00:09:42.11\00:09:47.28 Yeah. 00:09:47.32\00:09:48.65 The different levels, especially the higher levels, 00:09:48.68\00:09:51.15 what they call a high end prostitution 00:09:51.19\00:09:53.56 or even legal prostitution or high end brothels. 00:09:53.59\00:09:58.09 When they do, I have seen documentaries on them 00:09:58.13\00:10:00.20 where you talk to the people that are from that lifestyle 00:10:00.23\00:10:02.46 is really glamorize because you're dealing 00:10:02.50\00:10:04.53 with a very rich man that fly women to places, 00:10:04.57\00:10:08.54 and beaches, in large cars, and jewelry, 00:10:08.57\00:10:11.81 and gifts, and things of that nature 00:10:11.84\00:10:13.17 so it's almost look like. 00:10:13.21\00:10:14.88 As matter of fact, I'm was watching a documentary, 00:10:14.91\00:10:17.88 you know, with my wife, 00:10:17.91\00:10:19.25 and it showed a women who is married, 00:10:19.28\00:10:20.78 and had a kid, and had a middle class job, 00:10:20.82\00:10:23.08 but she stop that as a fantasy 00:10:23.12\00:10:25.25 and did high end prostitution because she said, 00:10:25.29\00:10:27.32 she can make more money doing this 00:10:27.36\00:10:29.29 and to fulfill her fantasy. 00:10:29.32\00:10:31.79 And so, there are you know, 00:10:31.83\00:10:33.86 high end levels, lower end levels, and escorting 00:10:33.90\00:10:38.27 and different names that they do have. 00:10:38.30\00:10:41.67 And this is actually a little story, 00:10:41.70\00:10:43.84 I have about that. 00:10:43.87\00:10:45.97 There is a women who was invited on to a yacht, 00:10:46.01\00:10:49.94 you know, those are very high-end party. 00:10:49.98\00:10:53.42 And a man approach right at the bar 00:10:53.45\00:10:55.78 and brought her a drink, and they begin to talk, 00:10:55.82\00:10:58.65 and he let's her know I'm the owner of this yacht. 00:10:58.69\00:11:01.52 Now this girl was, she was from humble beginnings, 00:11:01.56\00:11:04.26 and so when this man, he was speaking in her ear, 00:11:04.29\00:11:06.53 he offered her $10,000 for one night of illicit sex, 00:11:06.56\00:11:11.27 and she was all excited, 00:11:11.30\00:11:12.63 why, I've never got an offered that much money before. 00:11:12.67\00:11:15.10 And so as they go back to the master suite, 00:11:15.14\00:11:19.17 as they close the door, he says, well, how about $10? 00:11:19.21\00:11:23.98 And she gets all upset, and she says, 00:11:24.01\00:11:25.81 "What type of girl do you think I am?" 00:11:25.85\00:11:27.78 And he says, "I already know what type of girl you're. 00:11:27.82\00:11:30.09 Now I'm just trying to determine your price." 00:11:30.12\00:11:33.25 You know, so no matter what the price is, 00:11:33.29\00:11:36.56 it's still prostitution 00:11:36.59\00:11:38.59 and it's still not pleasing the eyes of God. 00:11:38.63\00:11:40.90 Right. 00:11:40.93\00:11:42.26 Now let me go ahead. 00:11:42.30\00:11:43.63 Remember that I read the, you know, 00:11:43.67\00:11:48.27 the second part of the meaning of prostitution. 00:11:48.30\00:11:52.27 "And one's talents 00:11:52.31\00:11:53.84 for the sake of personal or financial gain." 00:11:53.88\00:11:58.01 Well, instead of always having to "have sex," 00:11:58.05\00:12:02.75 there is another form of prostitution. 00:12:02.78\00:12:06.05 As for me, I was a sugar baby once. 00:12:06.09\00:12:10.73 Not all the time, I had, 00:12:10.76\00:12:13.43 you know, intercourse with a guy. 00:12:13.46\00:12:16.20 But just because I'm there and I'm being his arm candy, 00:12:16.23\00:12:20.47 I'm showing him attention, affection, 00:12:20.50\00:12:23.77 something that maybe his wife is not even given him. 00:12:23.81\00:12:27.01 I'm listening to his problems, 00:12:27.04\00:12:29.71 I'm acting as if I really like this man, 00:12:29.74\00:12:33.78 I'm attracted to this man, 00:12:33.82\00:12:35.68 and he means a lot to me, I really care for him. 00:12:35.72\00:12:39.22 But really I'm just being a con artiest, you know. 00:12:39.25\00:12:43.49 So I just really wanted to let that be know 00:12:43.53\00:12:46.16 that there are different levels. 00:12:46.19\00:12:47.60 But regardless, 00:12:47.63\00:12:48.96 you're putting in a price on yourself. 00:12:49.00\00:12:52.90 So, do you think prostitution is legal? 00:12:52.93\00:12:59.51 Not according in a God's law. 00:12:59.54\00:13:02.04 Might be, you know, 00:13:02.08\00:13:03.41 according to man in different states 00:13:03.45\00:13:05.15 it might be okay to engage in that act, 00:13:05.18\00:13:07.42 but the Bible say, 00:13:07.45\00:13:09.12 "That your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, 00:13:09.15\00:13:11.32 and that you've bought with the price 00:13:11.35\00:13:12.69 so glorify God in your body 00:13:12.72\00:13:14.66 and in your spirit, which are God's." 00:13:14.69\00:13:17.06 And so it's very illegal in God's eyes. 00:13:17.09\00:13:22.36 Amen. 00:13:22.40\00:13:23.73 And when Paul was writing to church at Corinth, 00:13:23.77\00:13:25.73 he says, "No, ye not that, he who is joined to a harlot 00:13:25.77\00:13:28.74 becomes body with her?" 00:13:28.77\00:13:30.11 And he speak about it in a very negative light, 00:13:30.14\00:13:32.57 and so if it is, 00:13:32.61\00:13:34.48 if the Bible speak clearly against it 00:13:34.51\00:13:36.24 in the book of 1 Corinthians then it must be a sin. 00:13:36.28\00:13:40.62 And he talks about that too, 00:13:40.65\00:13:42.08 you know, in reference to the Church. 00:13:42.12\00:13:43.59 Right. 00:13:43.62\00:13:44.95 You know, and it's interesting that, 00:13:44.99\00:13:47.36 we manage to make sin legal, sort of speak, some you know, 00:13:47.39\00:13:52.46 the man's law makes it legal for you to go buy a prostitute. 00:13:52.49\00:13:57.77 But then God's law, you know, even in the Book of Revolution 00:13:57.80\00:14:00.67 talks about the you know, the harlot, 00:14:00.70\00:14:02.17 you know prostitute is completely against God's law. 00:14:02.20\00:14:06.34 Not just because of a law sakes, 00:14:06.37\00:14:07.84 but because of your body, 00:14:07.88\00:14:09.58 the damage that you're doing to your body. 00:14:09.61\00:14:11.51 And even emotionally and spiritually, 00:14:11.55\00:14:13.42 God cares about is it hurting you emotionally. 00:14:13.45\00:14:16.32 God cares about is it hurting you spiritually, 00:14:16.35\00:14:18.82 is it hurting you mentally? 00:14:18.85\00:14:20.69 And sometimes in our illegal system 00:14:20.72\00:14:23.09 the main concern is, 00:14:23.12\00:14:24.79 okay, is it, are you gonna be okay, okay. 00:14:24.83\00:14:28.26 That's why, they may not, 00:14:28.30\00:14:30.27 they are completely against maybe street walkers 00:14:30.30\00:14:32.23 because, they're on the street, 00:14:32.27\00:14:33.87 anything can happen, they can get hurt. 00:14:33.90\00:14:35.80 But if you're in like a safe business, 00:14:35.84\00:14:37.31 of course, people come and have sex with you 00:14:37.34\00:14:39.14 and give you money, 00:14:39.17\00:14:40.51 because of what they assume is safe, 00:14:40.54\00:14:43.58 but it isn't safe. 00:14:43.61\00:14:44.95 None of it is. None of it is safe, trust me. 00:14:44.98\00:14:48.45 You, the same things that can happen out in the street, 00:14:48.48\00:14:52.82 can also happen indoors. 00:14:52.85\00:14:55.46 I mean, you may be going to someone's hotel room, 00:14:55.49\00:15:01.06 I mean, he can still rob you, 00:15:01.10\00:15:03.57 he can still be overly aggressive. 00:15:03.60\00:15:07.40 You know, he may not take you, 00:15:07.44\00:15:09.34 pull you back to alley and beat you up and rob you, 00:15:09.37\00:15:11.97 but he can do those things. 00:15:12.01\00:15:13.94 You know, he can even tie you up 00:15:13.98\00:15:15.31 and throw you up in the bathroom or torture you. 00:15:15.34\00:15:17.38 He can do all those things. 00:15:17.41\00:15:19.11 So you're never safe 00:15:19.15\00:15:21.35 even if you're indoors or out on the street. 00:15:21.38\00:15:26.42 Now, I want to go into the part of addition. 00:15:26.45\00:15:29.66 Is it addictive? 00:15:29.69\00:15:31.03 And I want talk about, 00:15:31.06\00:15:32.39 you know, my part far as been a prostitute 00:15:32.43\00:15:35.73 and the customer. 00:15:35.76\00:15:39.47 Go ahead. 00:15:39.50\00:15:40.84 Well, I can speak from the customer point of view. 00:15:40.87\00:15:44.67 After I join the military, 00:15:44.71\00:15:46.68 I kind of got sucked in to that life of soliciting 00:15:46.71\00:15:49.74 or buying prostitutes. 00:15:49.78\00:15:51.95 And I never thought I get there in my life, 00:15:51.98\00:15:55.75 but sin, it's a downward spiral. 00:15:55.78\00:15:59.62 That's for sure. 00:15:59.65\00:16:00.99 You know, you start of with just pornography 00:16:01.02\00:16:04.76 and you start off, kissie-kissie, touchy-touchy, 00:16:04.79\00:16:07.40 and before you know it you're going in that corner 00:16:07.43\00:16:09.90 where you know all the prostitute hangout. 00:16:09.93\00:16:12.50 And it became an addictive behavior 00:16:12.53\00:16:14.24 because there is no, there is no, there is no risk 00:16:14.27\00:16:21.11 really that you perceive that you're taking. 00:16:21.14\00:16:23.91 All you have to do is have the money 00:16:23.95\00:16:26.21 and you know you're gonna get that sexual gratification. 00:16:26.25\00:16:29.22 Even going out to bars and club became kind off boring 00:16:29.25\00:16:32.85 because now I still had to try to talk to a girl, 00:16:32.89\00:16:35.56 asides of buying her drink, 00:16:35.59\00:16:37.03 I still had to say the right things. 00:16:37.06\00:16:38.89 With the prostitute, if I just had the right amount of money. 00:16:38.93\00:16:43.16 And so, it became very, very, addictive 00:16:43.20\00:16:46.97 because of that nature. 00:16:47.00\00:16:48.34 As long as I have the amount of money, 00:16:48.37\00:16:50.01 it was more a transaction; 00:16:50.04\00:16:51.37 it was like going to a restaurant 00:16:51.41\00:16:54.21 and buying food, you know, 00:16:54.24\00:16:56.18 it wasn't interacting with another human being. 00:16:56.21\00:16:58.75 And what had taught me that behavior was the media, 00:16:58.78\00:17:03.49 was pornography, 00:17:03.52\00:17:04.85 because, I would never been giving a woman money for sex 00:17:04.89\00:17:09.49 if I didn't think that that behavior was normal, 00:17:09.52\00:17:13.29 if I didn't think that a woman was an object 00:17:13.33\00:17:15.16 that should be bought, I would never been there. 00:17:15.20\00:17:17.73 But because of all my exposure to pornography and to the media 00:17:17.77\00:17:21.54 and just my own rejection of Christ, 00:17:21.57\00:17:24.61 and His message, and His church, 00:17:24.64\00:17:26.44 I found my self there. 00:17:26.47\00:17:27.88 Right. 00:17:27.91\00:17:29.24 I want to touch on, the prostitution view. 00:17:29.28\00:17:32.45 Okay, and how addicted it was. 00:17:32.48\00:17:35.62 Well, as for me, this is very personal. 00:17:35.65\00:17:38.52 It started off with the money, of course, you know. 00:17:38.55\00:17:43.32 I was in a situation where I needed money. 00:17:43.36\00:17:47.60 So I went to prostitution, I didn't like it at all, 00:17:47.63\00:17:52.13 but I only did it for the money. 00:17:52.17\00:17:54.40 Then it progressed, it progressed 00:17:54.44\00:17:56.20 while I'm starting to get wined and dined, you know. 00:17:56.24\00:18:00.78 I'm getting all this attention, 00:18:00.81\00:18:03.18 people are telling me that I'm very beautiful 00:18:03.21\00:18:05.58 and, oh, you're just awesome, you're amazing, 00:18:05.61\00:18:08.65 and I'm getting all you know, all these "good things," okay. 00:18:08.68\00:18:13.62 And being told all these wonderful things about myself, 00:18:13.66\00:18:16.39 that, you know, basically, 00:18:16.42\00:18:18.89 I probably didn't know anything about myself, you know. 00:18:18.93\00:18:21.66 And when you first start you're gonna think like, 00:18:21.70\00:18:23.40 oh, my goodness, 00:18:23.43\00:18:24.77 I can't believe, I'm doing this, you know. 00:18:24.80\00:18:27.40 At times I felt dirty, I would take a shower 00:18:27.44\00:18:29.97 and literally scrub myself, and you would see marks on my neck 00:18:30.01\00:18:35.01 from scrubbing because I felt so dirty. 00:18:35.04\00:18:38.21 And then 00:18:38.25\00:18:40.22 all that comes to my self-esteem, you know. 00:18:40.25\00:18:45.35 So I want to really talk about 00:18:45.39\00:18:47.36 what are the effects in the industry 00:18:47.39\00:18:49.72 for men and women, 00:18:49.76\00:18:51.33 and I want to talk about the affects 00:18:51.36\00:18:53.23 for that people are buying, 00:18:53.26\00:18:56.30 you know that men and women are buying 00:18:56.33\00:18:59.13 or spending their money on prostitution. 00:18:59.17\00:19:02.30 Well, I would say you know, 00:19:02.34\00:19:04.57 you two can probably chime in on this. 00:19:04.61\00:19:06.68 I would say, it effects both of people self-worth. 00:19:06.71\00:19:09.84 You know, a person, you gave a testimony 00:19:09.88\00:19:13.31 where you didn't feel that talking a woman. 00:19:13.35\00:19:14.95 There might be some guys who try to talk to women 00:19:14.98\00:19:17.52 and maybe can't get them or something like that. 00:19:17.55\00:19:19.49 So they might feel they're not good enough, 00:19:19.52\00:19:21.52 but they can just pay for it. 00:19:21.56\00:19:22.89 And so they might, you know, feel in their self 00:19:22.92\00:19:25.89 that they can't connect with women on that level 00:19:25.93\00:19:29.33 and so they don't feel like they're worth that much. 00:19:29.36\00:19:31.63 And then a women who is getting paid for it 00:19:31.67\00:19:34.30 can start to identify her worth by this price, 00:19:34.34\00:19:37.97 you know, mentally, 00:19:38.01\00:19:40.68 you know, and emotionally I might not be worth much, 00:19:40.71\00:19:43.65 but physically, I can get this price. 00:19:43.68\00:19:46.08 And so I'm somebody, I'm something, you know. 00:19:46.11\00:19:51.25 Well, for me as a consumer, 00:19:51.29\00:19:53.76 it started to affect just my sexual desires. 00:19:53.79\00:19:59.19 You know, things of a healthy consensual nature 00:19:59.23\00:20:04.13 stopped really having the natural effect 00:20:04.17\00:20:08.37 and my taste began to become more violent 00:20:08.40\00:20:11.47 and more sadistic, if you will. 00:20:11.51\00:20:14.44 And it was because 00:20:14.48\00:20:15.81 I was so far away from God's perfect plan for sex. 00:20:15.84\00:20:19.98 I had resorted to prostitution, to soliciting prostitutes, 00:20:20.02\00:20:25.79 which we talk about earlier is a form of worship. 00:20:25.82\00:20:29.96 And so, in this act of worship to false God 00:20:29.99\00:20:33.16 I was becoming more and more debased, 00:20:33.19\00:20:35.43 becoming more and more animalistic. 00:20:35.46\00:20:37.47 And I didn't even notice it until after my conversation 00:20:37.50\00:20:40.90 and the Holy Spirit was bringing me to myself 00:20:40.94\00:20:44.47 like the prodigal son in the pig pan 00:20:44.51\00:20:46.44 when he actually realized where he was. 00:20:46.47\00:20:50.01 And when I looked at my life 00:20:50.05\00:20:51.71 and I saw the things I had engaged 00:20:51.75\00:20:54.42 and the things that I had thinking about, 00:20:54.45\00:20:56.15 fantasizing about, I said, oh my goodness, 00:20:56.18\00:20:58.62 I can't believe I got here. 00:20:58.65\00:21:00.36 But it was a slow gradual decline into sin. 00:21:00.39\00:21:05.13 Go ahead. 00:21:05.16\00:21:06.49 I think too, I mean, 00:21:06.53\00:21:07.86 my standpoint was from a customer 00:21:07.90\00:21:09.53 but actually somebody arresting a prostitute, 00:21:09.56\00:21:12.77 you know, back in my former days. 00:21:12.80\00:21:15.27 It's sad. Yes. 00:21:15.30\00:21:17.01 You look at their driver's license 00:21:17.04\00:21:18.71 and you see how they were and then you look at them now 00:21:18.74\00:21:22.48 and you see how strong out on drugs they were. 00:21:22.51\00:21:24.71 And it's almost heart breaking because you look, like I said, 00:21:24.75\00:21:28.62 look at this, a young lady, you know. 00:21:28.65\00:21:31.05 In her 20s, you look at her driver's license 00:21:31.09\00:21:33.22 and you're arresting her for prostitution, 00:21:33.25\00:21:34.72 for soliciting, and you look at the picture, 00:21:34.76\00:21:37.19 you look at her, 00:21:37.23\00:21:38.56 and that she just looks so deteriorated and old. 00:21:38.59\00:21:41.60 It's like this stuff, 00:21:41.63\00:21:43.40 and it's only in a matter of years 00:21:43.43\00:21:45.73 that damages this individual for life. 00:21:45.77\00:21:50.47 And probably to go little further, 00:21:50.51\00:21:53.27 but going back to the addiction. 00:21:53.31\00:21:55.78 One form of you know sex decision is anonymous. 00:21:55.81\00:21:58.68 And like Tim was saying earlier, 00:21:58.71\00:22:01.48 the guy might be going to this young lady 00:22:01.52\00:22:05.29 because no one else wants him. 00:22:05.32\00:22:08.06 So when he feeling stressed, 00:22:08.09\00:22:09.86 no one else is listening to him, 00:22:09.89\00:22:11.23 I'm gonna go to a prostitute. 00:22:11.26\00:22:13.03 Feeling depressed because he didn't get that promotion, 00:22:13.06\00:22:15.46 I'm gonna go to a prostitute. 00:22:15.50\00:22:17.27 So every single time something is happening in his life, 00:22:17.30\00:22:20.30 he can't find any support from people 00:22:20.34\00:22:22.50 who he really needs that support from, 00:22:22.54\00:22:24.74 he's going to a prostitute over and over and over again. 00:22:24.77\00:22:27.81 And it effects, that's affecting his wallet, 00:22:27.84\00:22:31.28 because; and it's affecting his body 00:22:31.31\00:22:33.82 'cause you don't know what's your getting. 00:22:33.85\00:22:36.28 Condoms only work so much, they only go so far. 00:22:36.32\00:22:40.46 Affecting relationships 00:22:40.49\00:22:41.82 because you start blowing off people, 00:22:41.86\00:22:43.19 'cause you're not helping me 00:22:43.22\00:22:44.56 the way I think you should be helping me, 00:22:44.59\00:22:45.93 so I'm gonna go to someone who doesn't really care me 00:22:45.96\00:22:48.13 but they help me in a way I think works for right now. 00:22:48.16\00:22:52.37 And it's also again, when you finally find someone, 00:22:52.40\00:22:54.97 I'm gonna marry you. 00:22:55.00\00:22:57.37 You try to, you try to connect but you can't connect 00:22:57.41\00:23:03.65 because your mind is somewhere else. 00:23:03.68\00:23:06.92 And when they wake up like, where is my spouse, 00:23:06.95\00:23:09.42 why they are not beside me, they're out going somewhere. 00:23:09.45\00:23:11.89 You feel cheated on, you feel disrespect, 00:23:11.92\00:23:13.32 you feel so many different things, 00:23:13.36\00:23:14.89 this doesn't only affect the person who is a prostitute 00:23:14.92\00:23:18.03 or even the one who is soliciting the prostitute, 00:23:18.06\00:23:20.16 it affects their family and their friends. 00:23:20.20\00:23:22.26 Right, you're so right about that. 00:23:22.30\00:23:24.83 Now as for me, how would it affect me. 00:23:24.87\00:23:29.44 It brought down my self-worth, you know. 00:23:29.47\00:23:33.88 It made me do extra things for the outer appearance, 00:23:33.91\00:23:38.21 because how I felt in the inside. 00:23:38.25\00:23:40.82 You know, instead of embracing my natural beauty, 00:23:40.85\00:23:44.59 I became plastic, you know. 00:23:44.62\00:23:46.82 I'm looking at all these shows on TV 00:23:46.86\00:23:50.73 and videos and so forth, 00:23:50.76\00:23:54.26 and I'm doing my make up as just they did, 00:23:54.30\00:23:56.93 or I'm wearing provocative clothes 00:23:56.97\00:23:58.73 because I felt ugly inside, you know. 00:23:58.77\00:24:03.00 It was, it became addictive, because of the money 00:24:03.04\00:24:07.21 and I was able to buy anything I want, you know. 00:24:07.24\00:24:10.81 I could blow money 00:24:10.85\00:24:12.81 and then make it back up that night, you know. 00:24:12.85\00:24:15.98 So, and then on top of that, 00:24:16.02\00:24:18.42 I start, I began to embrace the way I looked 00:24:18.45\00:24:21.29 in the outer appearance 00:24:21.32\00:24:22.66 and forgot about what it's doing to me 00:24:22.69\00:24:24.03 in the inside. 00:24:24.06\00:24:25.53 You know, I'm gonna go spend $300 on my weave 00:24:25.56\00:24:28.96 because it's gonna make me look good, 00:24:29.00\00:24:30.33 it's gonna make me feel good, you know. 00:24:30.37\00:24:33.34 And I'm gonna buy these shoes because it makes me feel good. 00:24:33.37\00:24:36.57 Why not do something for myself? 00:24:36.60\00:24:37.94 I work hard, you know, 00:24:37.97\00:24:40.94 and being able to just do whatever I want. 00:24:40.98\00:24:45.11 That became addictive to me, okay. 00:24:45.15\00:24:49.28 And so, I want talk about sex trafficking, you know. 00:24:49.32\00:24:53.42 It's doesn't only happen in America 00:24:53.46\00:24:55.39 but I believe happen all over the world. 00:24:55.42\00:24:58.16 So what are your thoughts on sex trafficking? 00:24:58.19\00:25:00.43 Actually, it's interesting because during like events, 00:25:00.46\00:25:04.27 big sporting events such as super bowl 00:25:04.30\00:25:06.30 or other big sporting events, 00:25:06.33\00:25:08.10 it uses a mast or bridge to be able to get big money buyers 00:25:08.14\00:25:12.77 to exchange or purchase girls 00:25:12.81\00:25:16.01 that are under drugs, that are kidnapped 00:25:16.04\00:25:18.25 from other places and drugged up, 00:25:18.28\00:25:20.45 and be able to exchange them for a price and sell them off. 00:25:20.48\00:25:23.52 So like, your love ones or anything like that, 00:25:23.55\00:25:25.19 they could be potentially victims 00:25:25.22\00:25:27.02 or being sold off to him 00:25:27.06\00:25:28.39 and trafficking to very popular, 00:25:28.42\00:25:30.16 extremely popular underground prostitution industry. 00:25:30.19\00:25:34.53 And myself, I actually read an article 00:25:34.56\00:25:36.56 dealing with one of these big sporting events 00:25:36.60\00:25:39.80 where a women was invited to a party 00:25:39.83\00:25:42.57 for one of these big sporting events. 00:25:42.60\00:25:44.84 And when she got there, 00:25:44.87\00:25:47.14 there was no one there but one guy 00:25:47.18\00:25:49.64 and he began to kind of like talk to her, 00:25:49.68\00:25:52.51 and eventually he forced her into prostitution. 00:25:52.55\00:25:56.35 And this was in America, you know, 00:25:56.38\00:25:58.45 and she tells her story how she was into a prostitution 00:25:58.49\00:26:00.92 and how it affected her, 00:26:00.96\00:26:02.99 and by God's grace she was brought out of that. 00:26:03.02\00:26:06.56 But she wrote that, even now that she's married, 00:26:06.59\00:26:09.00 it still has a little effect on her relationship 00:26:09.03\00:26:11.37 with her husband. 00:26:11.40\00:26:12.73 And so, this trafficking is going on in a America. 00:26:12.77\00:26:16.57 And there was a trafficker that they actually caught 00:26:16.60\00:26:18.64 and they give me a little plea bargain to say, 00:26:18.67\00:26:20.51 if you'll give me of the higher people 00:26:20.54\00:26:22.71 we'll give you a break. 00:26:22.74\00:26:24.28 And they were asking him, 00:26:24.31\00:26:25.65 "So how do you take women in America 00:26:25.68\00:26:28.02 and turn them into prostitutes?" 00:26:28.05\00:26:30.19 And he said, "He goes up to woman in the mall, 00:26:30.22\00:26:32.25 and he says, 'You have nice eyes.' 00:26:32.29\00:26:34.52 And if the woman says, 'No, I don't,' 00:26:34.56\00:26:36.79 or she looks down like low self-esteem," 00:26:36.83\00:26:39.19 that's the women he would target. 00:26:39.23\00:26:41.26 And so these things are happening in America, 00:26:41.30\00:26:43.33 in our own malls, because the devil knows 00:26:43.37\00:26:46.90 that he could use people who have low self-esteem 00:26:46.94\00:26:49.27 and traffic them sexually. 00:26:49.30\00:26:51.37 Yes. 00:26:51.41\00:26:52.74 Also it's basically 00:26:52.77\00:26:54.41 like form of modern day slavery, you know. 00:26:54.44\00:26:57.08 It's the worst thing that could happen, 00:26:57.11\00:26:58.71 you know between humans to the human race. 00:26:58.75\00:27:00.95 One human using another human for their own personal gain, 00:27:00.98\00:27:05.45 for money, and looking at another person like an object 00:27:05.49\00:27:09.02 like they not human. 00:27:09.06\00:27:10.39 Like this is just like another car, 00:27:10.43\00:27:12.39 this is gonna help me, this is gonna make me money, 00:27:12.43\00:27:15.63 and this is gonna be good for me, and so. 00:27:15.66\00:27:18.50 And it's not just only older people, 00:27:18.53\00:27:20.30 the ages getting younger and younger 00:27:20.34\00:27:22.10 where they want to traffic boys and girls, and exploit them, 00:27:22.14\00:27:27.64 and expose them to this lifestyle. 00:27:27.68\00:27:31.11 Well, this topic today is very, very serious. 00:27:31.15\00:27:38.02 I once lived this lifestyle 00:27:38.05\00:27:40.99 and I've struggled to get out of this lifestyle. 00:27:41.02\00:27:45.69 I had so many strongholds, 00:27:45.73\00:27:49.00 it tore me into pieces, 00:27:49.03\00:27:51.53 and I felt that there was no hope. 00:27:51.57\00:27:54.84 But there is hope. 00:27:54.87\00:27:56.74 Jesus loves you. 00:27:56.77\00:27:59.07 So remember to make pure choices. 00:27:59.11\00:28:03.48