The following program discusses sensitive issues. 00:00:01.93\00:00:04.57 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:00:04.60\00:00:06.37 may be too candid for younger children. 00:00:06.40\00:00:09.10 Hello and welcome to another wonderful episode 00:00:41.97\00:00:44.27 of Pure Choices. 00:00:44.31\00:00:45.64 I'm your host, Xavier Morales, and next to me, 00:00:45.67\00:00:47.58 I have my good friend, Jacques LaGuerre. 00:00:47.61\00:00:50.11 Over here, we have 00:00:50.15\00:00:51.75 Tim Lawson, Mrs. Myesha Lawson, 00:00:51.78\00:00:54.92 and my wonderful, beautiful, astonishing, God-given wife, 00:00:54.95\00:00:58.69 Brittany-Hill Morales. 00:00:58.72\00:01:00.09 I like that, I like that. I like that, I like that. 00:01:00.12\00:01:03.09 But today's topic is what men need. 00:01:03.12\00:01:06.39 And, obviously, 00:01:06.43\00:01:07.76 you people are going to jump the gun and already think, 00:01:07.80\00:01:09.13 you know, what we need. 00:01:09.16\00:01:10.50 But we're gonna talk a little bit more about it 00:01:10.53\00:01:12.00 going depth into it. 00:01:12.03\00:01:13.37 The title of today's topic is "Wham, Bam, Thank you, Ma'am." 00:01:13.40\00:01:16.40 So as we get into this... 00:01:16.44\00:01:17.87 Before we get in it, 00:01:17.91\00:01:19.24 we're going to have a word of prayer, 00:01:19.27\00:01:20.88 bow your heads with me, please. 00:01:20.91\00:01:22.94 Dear Heavenly Father, God, right now, 00:01:22.98\00:01:24.31 as we get into this topic, 00:01:24.35\00:01:25.71 Lord, let us express 00:01:25.75\00:01:27.62 what it is that men need in accordance to you. 00:01:27.65\00:01:29.75 In Jesus' name, Amen. 00:01:29.78\00:01:31.52 Amen. Amen. 00:01:31.55\00:01:33.15 First question, an obvious question, 00:01:33.19\00:01:34.86 what role does society play and what man needs? 00:01:34.89\00:01:41.53 I say it plays, 00:01:41.56\00:01:44.83 especially at this point in time, 00:01:44.87\00:01:46.23 one of the largest roles and what men need, 00:01:46.27\00:01:50.51 especially as you have fatherless homes 00:01:50.54\00:01:54.41 and people growing up without fathers, 00:01:54.44\00:01:56.01 as you have homes that have fathers in them, 00:01:56.04\00:01:59.11 and men not being good fathers 00:01:59.15\00:02:01.28 or even fathers that are good and their... 00:02:01.32\00:02:03.85 Maybe their work carries them away from home. 00:02:03.89\00:02:06.32 That society in the form of the coacher, 00:02:06.35\00:02:10.29 you know, television or video games 00:02:10.33\00:02:12.66 or fashion and music playing a role in telling men 00:02:12.69\00:02:18.13 what they need 00:02:18.17\00:02:19.50 or what type of men they're supposed to be. 00:02:19.53\00:02:21.40 And now we can go through all the stereotypes, 00:02:21.44\00:02:23.04 but I'll just touch on the one. 00:02:23.07\00:02:24.57 Right now, in today's culture, in today's society, 00:02:24.61\00:02:27.54 you have a heavy, heavy movement 00:02:27.58\00:02:30.95 to feminize men at this point in time, 00:02:30.98\00:02:35.95 whether it's coming through the fashion, 00:02:35.98\00:02:38.19 the type of jeans and the shirts 00:02:38.22\00:02:40.26 and the type of clothing 00:02:40.29\00:02:42.26 that men wear right now a lot of times 00:02:42.29\00:02:44.33 are actually unisex 00:02:44.36\00:02:47.60 or kind of feminine in the way their clothing looks. 00:02:47.63\00:02:50.73 And also through the music, 00:02:50.77\00:02:54.27 you know, they are... 00:02:54.30\00:02:58.37 You know, sometimes they call that empowering women, 00:02:58.41\00:03:00.81 but to empower one sex, 00:03:00.84\00:03:03.71 you don't have to put down or demonize the other. 00:03:03.75\00:03:07.88 And this is the kind of role, and this is the kind of things 00:03:07.92\00:03:10.85 that are happening right now. 00:03:10.89\00:03:12.22 Mr. Jacques? 00:03:12.25\00:03:14.19 I'd also say that if you look at television, 00:03:14.22\00:03:18.46 and what's coming forward from all these studios. 00:03:18.49\00:03:22.16 When you look at most of these sitcoms, 00:03:22.20\00:03:24.57 the father is just a child. 00:03:24.60\00:03:28.74 He can't do anything right. 00:03:28.77\00:03:30.81 He doesn't know how to handle money. 00:03:30.84\00:03:33.17 He needs his wife to do everything for him. 00:03:33.21\00:03:36.01 And his wife almost treats him like a little child. 00:03:36.04\00:03:38.65 And it's laughed at and is seen as comedy. 00:03:38.68\00:03:41.08 That's called the sitcom. 00:03:41.12\00:03:43.15 And so a lot of boys that are growing up 00:03:43.18\00:03:45.99 without their fathers, like Tim said, 00:03:46.02\00:03:48.02 they're looking at this behavior, 00:03:48.06\00:03:49.49 and they're thinking it's normal. 00:03:49.52\00:03:51.23 And then they get caught 00:03:51.26\00:03:52.59 in this cycle of playing video games. 00:03:52.63\00:03:54.30 I think they say 00:03:54.33\00:03:55.66 that the average video game player 00:03:55.70\00:03:58.33 is not a teenage boy, the man is 27. 00:03:58.37\00:04:02.30 And so it's keeping a lot of men 00:04:02.34\00:04:04.47 in a constant state of boyhood. 00:04:04.51\00:04:07.61 And so society wants a man to be one of two things, 00:04:07.64\00:04:12.38 be a woman or be a child. 00:04:12.41\00:04:14.52 But society is not really trying 00:04:14.55\00:04:15.92 to help a man truly become a God-fearing man. 00:04:15.95\00:04:19.62 And I think that, you know, that's true 00:04:19.65\00:04:21.62 because, you know, growing up, I was always, 00:04:21.66\00:04:24.06 you know, my dad always taught me, 00:04:24.09\00:04:25.43 you know, this is what it takes to be a man or what would not, 00:04:25.46\00:04:28.13 but, you know, society did play a big role in 00:04:28.16\00:04:31.07 who I would become because what I became... 00:04:31.10\00:04:34.10 Before I became a Christian, 00:04:34.14\00:04:35.47 what I became in the world was not what my mother 00:04:35.50\00:04:39.01 and father intended me to be. 00:04:39.04\00:04:41.68 And understanding that we, you know... 00:04:41.71\00:04:43.45 I understand that, yes, 00:04:43.48\00:04:44.81 society does play a big role in what, 00:04:44.85\00:04:46.41 you know, man needs to be or who he... 00:04:46.45\00:04:48.32 Or how he has to act. 00:04:48.35\00:04:51.55 But I know Brittany has something 00:04:51.59\00:04:53.22 to say about that. 00:04:53.25\00:04:54.69 I say, our society, 00:04:54.72\00:04:56.46 the role that it plays like it provides the handbook 00:04:56.49\00:04:59.56 for what a man is supposed to be. 00:04:59.59\00:05:01.66 But the handbook is so confusing, 00:05:01.70\00:05:04.20 it makes me glad I'm a woman because I'm hearing... 00:05:04.23\00:05:06.90 You hear so many different things 00:05:06.94\00:05:08.87 in some medias as, you know, Jacques was saying, 00:05:08.90\00:05:11.11 you would see the guy is like a baby, 00:05:11.14\00:05:13.71 the wife has to do everything, and he's just, 00:05:13.74\00:05:15.64 you know, a little bit did see... 00:05:15.68\00:05:17.58 But at least he's home and he's there. 00:05:17.61\00:05:19.65 And other shows, you see a guy who's like, 00:05:19.68\00:05:21.58 "Okay, I have baby mommas everywhere. 00:05:21.62\00:05:24.15 I hear they're in everywhere. This is what I do, I'm a man." 00:05:24.19\00:05:26.92 Or you see, other guys are like, 00:05:26.96\00:05:28.29 "I'm making money, I'm doing, this is what I am." 00:05:28.32\00:05:30.49 And then in the other spectrum, you see... 00:05:30.53\00:05:32.76 It might be a different culture of men, 00:05:32.79\00:05:34.93 but you see these men, they're successful. 00:05:34.96\00:05:37.70 They're walking around in suits. 00:05:37.73\00:05:39.70 They're the attractive men, the strong, powerful men. 00:05:39.73\00:05:43.20 You have so much different types of men 00:05:43.24\00:05:46.94 that are being portrayed, it's like, 00:05:46.98\00:05:48.31 "Okay, should a man be this powerful, 00:05:48.34\00:05:51.48 successful guy who walks around and can get a woman like that, 00:05:51.51\00:05:56.05 should he be this guy who has his pants sagging, 00:05:56.08\00:05:59.02 and he can get these type of women, 00:05:59.05\00:06:01.82 should he be this, should he beat that?" 00:06:01.86\00:06:03.83 At the core, it's so dysfunctional, 00:06:03.86\00:06:08.16 I don't know how men do it. 00:06:08.20\00:06:10.53 And that's interesting 00:06:10.57\00:06:11.90 because, you know, we need to talk a little more 00:06:11.93\00:06:13.34 about that because... 00:06:13.37\00:06:14.80 I mean, right now, 00:06:14.84\00:06:16.17 if you don't have a pen and paper ready, 00:06:16.20\00:06:17.64 you need to have that pen and paper ready 00:06:17.67\00:06:19.01 'cause we're giving all our secrets out here, 00:06:19.04\00:06:20.58 you know, all our secrets out here. 00:06:20.61\00:06:21.94 I know there are some ladies out there 00:06:21.98\00:06:23.31 looking for a good man. 00:06:23.35\00:06:24.88 I know, Jacques. 00:06:24.91\00:06:27.32 Well, I got to promote him one time, only one time. 00:06:27.35\00:06:31.59 But at the same time, you know, in all seriousness, 00:06:31.62\00:06:33.59 I know there's women out there 00:06:33.62\00:06:34.96 that often have that question of what men need 00:06:34.99\00:06:37.39 'cause we say, and Brittany touched base on that, 00:06:37.43\00:06:39.36 you know, we don't come with a manual, 00:06:39.39\00:06:40.73 neither do women, 00:06:40.76\00:06:42.10 but at the same time, it's like what do we need? 00:06:42.13\00:06:44.20 And I want to ask you... 00:06:44.23\00:06:45.93 I want to ask the ladies, how do you define... 00:06:45.97\00:06:48.90 How do you see what does a man need? 00:06:48.94\00:06:51.17 How do you define that, Myesha? 00:06:51.21\00:06:53.98 Well, for one... 00:06:54.01\00:06:55.34 Nowadays, men need respect. 00:06:55.38\00:06:57.55 You know, they're not being respected as men. 00:06:57.58\00:07:01.98 You know, with the media, it plays a part in that. 00:07:02.02\00:07:07.12 Because, I mean, you see a lot of... 00:07:07.16\00:07:10.09 Well, all types of women are disrespecting their man. 00:07:10.13\00:07:13.63 They don't know how to talk to them. 00:07:13.66\00:07:16.83 They don't even know how to treat a man like, 00:07:16.87\00:07:18.93 you know, like Britney said, 00:07:18.97\00:07:20.30 there's no manual how to even be a woman 00:07:20.34\00:07:22.44 and how to even treat a man. 00:07:22.47\00:07:24.27 You know, it is going to go with experience, 00:07:24.31\00:07:26.98 or it's going to go with, you know, seeing another woman 00:07:27.01\00:07:31.55 and how a man really should be treated, 00:07:31.58\00:07:33.48 or even the Word of God itself 00:07:33.52\00:07:35.78 will tell you how to treat a man. 00:07:35.82\00:07:38.89 And clearly, it says, you know, husbands... 00:07:38.92\00:07:42.29 I mean, wives, you have to respect your husbands. 00:07:42.32\00:07:45.86 Brittany? 00:07:45.89\00:07:47.23 I was just thinking about even growing up with all women, 00:07:47.26\00:07:52.03 so I didn't really see men around until I got older. 00:07:52.07\00:07:56.64 And I got to know my dad more. 00:07:56.67\00:07:58.61 And then being in relationship with Xavier, as you said, 00:07:58.64\00:08:00.74 I was trying to figure out, "How do I relate to him?" 00:08:00.78\00:08:04.45 Because you see the TV show, so I'm like, 00:08:04.48\00:08:06.35 "Okay, maybe I'm supposed to be the strong woman 00:08:06.38\00:08:10.29 who tells him what to do." 00:08:10.32\00:08:11.69 But other side, 00:08:11.72\00:08:13.05 "I don't want to be a strong woman 00:08:13.09\00:08:14.42 that tells him what to do. 00:08:14.46\00:08:15.89 I want to just to be there to support him, 00:08:15.92\00:08:18.16 to encourage him, to uplift him when he needs that upliftment." 00:08:18.19\00:08:21.83 So I think that's what men need, 00:08:21.86\00:08:25.23 someone who supports them as they continue to be 00:08:25.27\00:08:28.44 what God has designed them to be, 00:08:28.47\00:08:30.31 to be that helpmate 00:08:30.34\00:08:32.07 because that's what they desire from their women 00:08:32.11\00:08:34.74 to be that support, 00:08:34.78\00:08:36.31 to be there whether things are really, really great 00:08:36.34\00:08:39.11 or really, really bad 00:08:39.15\00:08:40.68 so that they can depend on her. 00:08:40.72\00:08:42.68 And that's true. 00:08:42.72\00:08:44.05 That help me, it's an important factor. 00:08:44.09\00:08:45.42 And also, man, 00:08:45.45\00:08:46.79 I know it sounds funny, but it's refreshing, 00:08:46.82\00:08:48.69 and for the viewers out there, it's refreshing to hear women, 00:08:48.72\00:08:51.89 just as confused about what we need, 00:08:51.93\00:08:53.76 as men are confused about what they need. 00:08:53.80\00:08:55.70 So, yes, we need God in all things 00:08:55.73\00:08:58.17 to be able to understand each other. 00:08:58.20\00:09:00.77 But, Myesha, with regards to respect, 00:09:00.80\00:09:02.77 you mentioned that, and I want this for everybody, 00:09:02.80\00:09:05.44 why do you think respect ranks so high in men, with males? 00:09:05.47\00:09:11.18 I mean it's just so much disrespect 00:09:11.21\00:09:13.68 going on in the world. 00:09:13.72\00:09:15.08 I mean, men are being very belittled. 00:09:15.12\00:09:19.55 And you know, you can say 00:09:19.59\00:09:21.96 it's women that's being belittled, 00:09:21.99\00:09:23.46 but it started with men first. 00:09:23.49\00:09:25.36 You know, and it started in the Garden of Eden, 00:09:25.39\00:09:27.50 you know. 00:09:27.53\00:09:29.33 How Adam, you know, didn't take responsibility, 00:09:29.36\00:09:33.34 so it's basically, you know, automatically, 00:09:33.37\00:09:35.90 when that started, and then, you know, what shows are being, 00:09:35.94\00:09:39.11 you know, on media or they're showing 00:09:39.14\00:09:41.81 that they can't take responsibility. 00:09:41.84\00:09:43.41 They can't handle things the right... 00:09:43.45\00:09:46.38 In proper way, they can't make proper decisions. 00:09:46.41\00:09:50.02 And when that's being pushed out there, 00:09:50.05\00:09:52.52 our men are indecisive, they're confused. 00:09:52.55\00:09:54.29 And all these things, 00:09:54.32\00:09:55.66 when it's been pushed out there, 00:09:55.69\00:09:57.29 and you guys are looking at this, 00:09:57.33\00:09:59.63 you know, you're really thinking to yourself, 00:09:59.66\00:10:01.26 "Am I this type of guy?" 00:10:01.30\00:10:03.06 Or it's being put into your head. 00:10:03.10\00:10:05.20 You know, you're seeing this on TV. 00:10:05.23\00:10:07.70 So obviously, you know, this is a whole image 00:10:07.74\00:10:09.84 that's going to be in your mind eventually. 00:10:09.87\00:10:12.17 And then you're going to start acting out. 00:10:12.21\00:10:15.24 So I just... 00:10:15.28\00:10:16.61 Basically, I think that you should just get 00:10:16.64\00:10:18.65 your counsel from God. 00:10:18.68\00:10:21.58 Tim? 00:10:21.62\00:10:23.05 Going back to the Garden of Eden, 00:10:23.08\00:10:25.49 you know, when sin entered the world, 00:10:25.52\00:10:26.92 it really messed everything up. 00:10:26.96\00:10:29.79 It seriously did a number on men 00:10:29.82\00:10:31.36 and did a number on women, 00:10:31.39\00:10:32.73 and what we're dealing right now, 00:10:32.76\00:10:34.10 as far society goes, 00:10:34.13\00:10:35.46 are the effects, you know, that have happened. 00:10:35.50\00:10:37.63 You know, God gave Adam, 00:10:37.67\00:10:39.50 you know, it was his job tend the garden, 00:10:39.53\00:10:41.94 it was his job to keep it. 00:10:41.97\00:10:43.30 It was his job to protect it, and when he gave Adam Eve, 00:10:43.34\00:10:47.14 this was his job as well. 00:10:47.18\00:10:49.34 So when sin entered into the picture, 00:10:49.38\00:10:51.75 you found that 00:10:51.78\00:10:53.11 it was Adam's job to protect the garden, 00:10:53.15\00:10:54.85 but he was unable to do that because sin crept in. 00:10:54.88\00:10:59.05 And then, when God comes to him and asks him what happened? 00:10:59.09\00:11:03.46 Instead of him taking responsibility, 00:11:03.49\00:11:06.53 instead of him taking his leadership role, 00:11:06.56\00:11:08.70 which would have showed respect, 00:11:08.73\00:11:10.20 he cops out and blames it on his wife now. 00:11:10.23\00:11:12.67 And so now in front of her, he gets demoted by God, 00:11:12.70\00:11:16.91 and in front of the whole universe, 00:11:16.94\00:11:18.41 it looks like Adam, 00:11:18.44\00:11:19.77 you know, couldn't handle his business. 00:11:19.81\00:11:21.48 And so now they've created this yearning in men 00:11:21.51\00:11:24.25 to be able to be respected 00:11:24.28\00:11:26.15 for being able to handle their business, 00:11:26.18\00:11:29.68 to take care of the things that God gave them. 00:11:29.72\00:11:33.22 And this is why it plays such a pivotal role. 00:11:33.25\00:11:35.22 And this is why Satan has twisted society 00:11:35.26\00:11:37.76 into disrespecting and belittling men, 00:11:37.79\00:11:41.10 so they won't step 00:11:41.13\00:11:42.70 and take charge as God wants them to do, 00:11:42.73\00:11:45.77 in the way He wants them to, not in a perverted way. 00:11:45.80\00:11:48.40 And I like what you're saying 00:11:48.44\00:11:49.77 because, you know, if it's just God's saying 00:11:49.80\00:11:51.94 that men, you know, are looking for that respect, 00:11:51.97\00:11:54.01 it's not just God, it's also psychology, 00:11:54.04\00:11:56.64 you know, regular psychology, regular science, 00:11:56.68\00:11:59.55 even they rank that respect is one of the highest things 00:11:59.58\00:12:02.68 that a man looks for, both in relationships, 00:12:02.72\00:12:06.15 from coworkers, from friends, whatever they do, 00:12:06.19\00:12:08.89 they're always looking for that respect. 00:12:08.92\00:12:11.83 And respect can actually get... 00:12:11.86\00:12:13.36 Not getting that respect, you know, it really, 00:12:13.40\00:12:16.03 I guess, you know, it hits your ego or hits, 00:12:16.06\00:12:17.70 you know, your male... 00:12:17.73\00:12:19.07 Or who you are as a man, 00:12:19.10\00:12:20.44 it kind of hits you when they break you down. 00:12:20.47\00:12:23.47 I don't know, what do you think, Jacques? 00:12:23.51\00:12:25.71 One of the interesting things about that is 00:12:25.74\00:12:28.71 just how different God made us. 00:12:28.74\00:12:31.45 You know, a man wanting respect, 00:12:31.48\00:12:33.42 it makes so much sense to me, 00:12:33.45\00:12:35.75 you know, because 00:12:35.78\00:12:37.12 being in the military for three years, 00:12:37.15\00:12:40.39 the military is... 00:12:40.42\00:12:42.12 The whole entire culture is built on respect. 00:12:42.16\00:12:45.59 You literally wear your rank on your chest. 00:12:45.63\00:12:48.40 And so when you're talking to someone 00:12:48.43\00:12:50.13 who outranks you, you speak a certain way. 00:12:50.17\00:12:54.14 If you're talking to a non-commissioned officer, 00:12:54.17\00:12:56.14 you have your hands behind your back. 00:12:56.17\00:12:57.57 If you're talking to a commissioned officer, 00:12:57.61\00:13:00.31 you're standing at the position of attention. 00:13:00.34\00:13:02.48 You know, even if you're frustrated, 00:13:02.51\00:13:04.01 you watch your tone of voice. 00:13:04.05\00:13:05.91 And that makes so much sense to men. 00:13:05.95\00:13:08.75 And so like growing up in that culture, so to speak, 00:13:08.78\00:13:13.15 I fully can understand that. 00:13:13.19\00:13:15.22 But when I was talking 00:13:15.26\00:13:16.59 with my friend's wife about respect, 00:13:16.62\00:13:20.16 she was telling me 00:13:20.20\00:13:21.53 how when she read a relationship book, 00:13:21.56\00:13:23.13 she was so confused, how the first pages said, 00:13:23.16\00:13:27.44 "Your love is not enough. He needs your respect." 00:13:27.47\00:13:31.01 And so I think that a lot of women, 00:13:31.04\00:13:32.37 they don't really understand that their husbands, 00:13:32.41\00:13:35.68 they want their wives' respect more than they want their love. 00:13:35.71\00:13:40.02 And I knew many men, when I was in the military 00:13:40.05\00:13:42.35 that they would spend so much time at work, 00:13:42.38\00:13:45.19 and they wouldn't like to go home 00:13:45.22\00:13:47.42 because here you are as an officer, 00:13:47.46\00:13:49.82 a non-commissioned officer, 00:13:49.86\00:13:51.36 everyone in the company respects you, 00:13:51.39\00:13:53.56 and then you go home, 00:13:53.60\00:13:55.16 and your wife is trying to treat you like a child. 00:13:55.20\00:13:57.37 And so those are things that I saw 00:13:57.40\00:13:59.57 while I was in the military. 00:13:59.60\00:14:01.20 And I resonate with that, 00:14:01.24\00:14:02.57 but I want to give credit to my wonderful wife over here, 00:14:02.60\00:14:04.71 she sure want to say something, go ahead, go ahead. 00:14:04.74\00:14:06.68 I think respect shows that you are valued. 00:14:06.71\00:14:10.51 When I'm thinking about respecting someone, 00:14:10.55\00:14:13.05 I'm going to respect someone 00:14:13.08\00:14:14.42 who, like you said, higher rank. 00:14:14.45\00:14:16.85 They know what they're doing, they know what they're about, 00:14:16.89\00:14:20.52 I trust this person, 00:14:20.56\00:14:22.32 and I think this person, you know, is about something. 00:14:22.36\00:14:26.96 It's like, when you see, like, a vagrant on the street, 00:14:27.00\00:14:29.56 your automatic response isn't to respect them, 00:14:29.60\00:14:31.80 because you're thinking 00:14:31.83\00:14:33.17 that what they're doing with their lives. 00:14:33.20\00:14:34.54 They're not doing anything. 00:14:34.57\00:14:35.90 But yet, if a pastor walks in, I'm going to respect him, 00:14:35.94\00:14:38.87 because he is doing this... 00:14:38.91\00:14:40.68 He's serving God, doing this. 00:14:40.71\00:14:42.04 It's like, because you're about something 00:14:42.08\00:14:44.78 that makes me want to respect you. 00:14:44.81\00:14:47.12 And I think when a guy is being respected, it shows him, 00:14:47.15\00:14:50.59 "Okay, she realizes that I am about something, 00:14:50.62\00:14:53.96 that I am doing something with my life, 00:14:53.99\00:14:55.92 that I am of this great value, that I can be trusted, 00:14:55.96\00:14:58.53 that she can depend, that she can lean on me, 00:14:58.56\00:15:00.73 so she's going to respect me because of these things. 00:15:00.76\00:15:05.00 And I want to put in a disclaimer, 00:15:05.03\00:15:06.80 just in case anybody watching things, 00:15:06.84\00:15:09.67 we're not saying that men don't want to be loved 00:15:09.70\00:15:12.31 or that they don't need to be loved, 00:15:12.34\00:15:14.71 what we're seeing is how they identify the love 00:15:14.74\00:15:18.55 that comes from their wife 00:15:18.58\00:15:19.91 is through a mechanism of respect in them 00:15:19.95\00:15:22.92 at the same time." 00:15:22.95\00:15:24.29 And I want to say something about that. 00:15:24.32\00:15:25.99 I believe that when a woman respects her man, 00:15:26.02\00:15:28.32 that is a form of loving him 00:15:28.36\00:15:30.96 or letting him know that she does love him, 00:15:30.99\00:15:34.00 because you can't automatically just yell 00:15:34.03\00:15:39.03 and say whatever you want to this man, 00:15:39.07\00:15:41.77 and he's going to think that you love him. 00:15:41.80\00:15:44.41 You have to show that you love him, 00:15:44.44\00:15:45.97 you have to give him that reassurance 00:15:46.01\00:15:47.68 that you love him. 00:15:47.71\00:15:50.08 And respect is one of the main things 00:15:50.11\00:15:52.25 that will show him that. 00:15:52.28\00:15:53.65 So based on that, you know, what men... 00:15:53.68\00:15:55.05 One of the things that man need is respect. 00:15:55.08\00:15:57.05 But I'm also wondering, 00:15:57.09\00:15:58.42 you know, regards to this whole concept of respect, 00:15:58.45\00:16:01.52 God, Christianity, 00:16:01.56\00:16:03.19 you know, I'm sure we need a little more than 00:16:03.22\00:16:06.19 just respect or love, you know. 00:16:06.23\00:16:08.36 I want to know what your thoughts are of 00:16:08.40\00:16:10.87 as what God says a man needs. 00:16:10.90\00:16:13.94 And I know, Tim, you touched on that earlier. 00:16:13.97\00:16:16.24 You talked about the Garden of Eden, Myesha, 00:16:16.27\00:16:17.74 you talked about the Garden of Eden as well, help me. 00:16:17.77\00:16:19.84 So being that, 00:16:19.87\00:16:21.21 you know, we're talking about that a little bit, 00:16:21.24\00:16:22.58 I want to know, why does God feel 00:16:22.61\00:16:24.91 that a helpmate is so important to a man? 00:16:24.95\00:16:28.28 Why is it exactly? What mechanism does that play? 00:16:28.32\00:16:32.15 Well, for one, she has... 00:16:32.19\00:16:34.52 I've always been told that a woman is a man's backbone, 00:16:34.56\00:16:37.86 you know, she always has his back in anything, 00:16:37.89\00:16:41.33 you know, outside the home as well as inside the home. 00:16:41.36\00:16:46.84 Clearly, God, 00:16:46.87\00:16:50.34 He is amazing the way He made woman and man. 00:16:50.37\00:16:53.38 Okay, a rib wasn't taken out of a woman, 00:16:53.41\00:16:57.31 you know, to make a man. 00:16:57.35\00:16:58.91 That's the other way around. 00:16:58.95\00:17:00.28 Let's speak about the correction. 00:17:00.32\00:17:02.28 It was a man's rib that was taken out 00:17:02.32\00:17:05.12 and given to a woman to make woman. 00:17:05.15\00:17:08.76 Okay, so clearly we see 00:17:08.79\00:17:10.79 that the man is an important role 00:17:10.83\00:17:13.60 as well as the woman, they're both are equal, 00:17:13.63\00:17:16.13 but the man is the leader. 00:17:16.16\00:17:19.23 Okay, but we live in a progressive society though. 00:17:19.27\00:17:23.30 Can I find that... 00:17:23.34\00:17:24.67 Do I have to find a helpmate in a woman? 00:17:24.71\00:17:26.17 Can't I just find a helpmate in another man? 00:17:26.21\00:17:28.11 No. 00:17:28.14\00:17:29.48 Well, not in the context of what God says, 00:17:29.51\00:17:32.18 like we were talking about earlier. 00:17:32.21\00:17:34.25 I mean, we can find whatever we want 00:17:34.28\00:17:35.92 if we want to do whatever we want to do. 00:17:35.95\00:17:37.92 You know, but if we're going 00:17:37.95\00:17:39.39 to talk about what the Bible says, 00:17:39.42\00:17:41.22 we see that God made Adam and the way He made him, 00:17:41.26\00:17:44.99 He made him with this sense to have a helpmate which... 00:17:45.03\00:17:49.30 And to be, you know, validated by his wife. 00:17:49.33\00:17:52.30 Like Jacques was saying earlier about the military, 00:17:52.33\00:17:54.40 you could be doing... 00:17:54.44\00:17:56.47 I mean, the world can tell you 00:17:56.50\00:17:58.27 that you're the greatest guy on earth, 00:17:58.31\00:18:01.08 but when you come home, if in your wife's eyes, 00:18:01.11\00:18:04.71 you know, you don't have that support, 00:18:04.75\00:18:06.31 if she doesn't think so, if she doesn't think 00:18:06.35\00:18:08.28 any of your accomplishments or anything, 00:18:08.32\00:18:10.22 you might fake it, 00:18:10.25\00:18:11.95 but that will cut worse 00:18:11.99\00:18:13.36 than all the accolades that the world could give you. 00:18:13.39\00:18:16.39 And so God knew that men were built 00:18:16.42\00:18:18.96 with needing the support system from a woman, supporting him, 00:18:18.99\00:18:24.77 encouraging him, encouragement is big. 00:18:24.80\00:18:28.24 "Hey, you did a good job." 00:18:28.27\00:18:29.60 You know, "Hey, you did a nice job," 00:18:29.64\00:18:30.97 through both sexes, 00:18:31.01\00:18:32.34 but God knew that men needed those things too. 00:18:32.37\00:18:34.91 Jacques, you wanted to say something? 00:18:34.94\00:18:37.15 I was going to say that 00:18:37.18\00:18:38.51 another reason why Adam needed a helpmate 00:18:38.55\00:18:40.48 is because one of his major purposes 00:18:40.52\00:18:42.68 was to reflect the image of God. 00:18:42.72\00:18:45.05 You know, man was made in God's image. 00:18:45.09\00:18:47.42 And God is triune, you know, three in one. 00:18:47.46\00:18:52.23 And so there is no way for a triune God 00:18:52.26\00:18:55.46 to be reflected in one person. 00:18:55.50\00:18:57.93 And so they're needed 00:18:57.97\00:18:59.30 to be some other characteristics 00:18:59.33\00:19:01.60 to be displayed for the whole entire universe, 00:19:01.64\00:19:04.47 and that's where Eve came along. 00:19:04.51\00:19:06.27 She displayed some of the other characteristics of God 00:19:06.31\00:19:09.31 while Adam had some of the other ones. 00:19:09.34\00:19:11.21 And they came perfectly together. 00:19:11.25\00:19:13.21 And before sin, it was a perfect union 00:19:13.25\00:19:15.45 like God, the Father, and His son. 00:19:15.48\00:19:18.05 After sin, 00:19:18.09\00:19:19.42 that's when the human family started fighting. 00:19:19.45\00:19:21.96 And I think that's all great points 00:19:21.99\00:19:23.76 because we often take the Bible for granted, as a joke, 00:19:23.79\00:19:27.46 or a set of rules and regulations 00:19:27.50\00:19:29.30 that are there just to oppress us, 00:19:29.33\00:19:31.23 but what man need first is God. 00:19:31.27\00:19:34.54 You know, and God, once he needed God, 00:19:34.57\00:19:36.47 he saw it fit to put him to sleep 00:19:36.50\00:19:38.27 and make a woman out of him, a better half, 00:19:38.31\00:19:40.71 if you so call that, 00:19:40.74\00:19:42.08 you know, somebody that would complete him 00:19:42.11\00:19:44.01 aside from God. 00:19:44.05\00:19:45.48 You know, triune, 00:19:45.51\00:19:46.85 you know, that's why the marriage 00:19:46.88\00:19:49.02 or, you know, what man need is a woman, not a man, 00:19:49.05\00:19:53.46 a woman to replicate 00:19:53.49\00:19:55.42 or duplicate a symbol of the Trinity, 00:19:55.46\00:19:58.73 you know, to bring this union and bond together under God. 00:19:58.76\00:20:02.93 And I think it's important to understand 00:20:02.96\00:20:04.47 the concept of a helpmate 00:20:04.50\00:20:05.83 'cause there's a difference between 00:20:05.87\00:20:07.20 an anchor versus a helpmate. 00:20:07.24\00:20:10.57 You know, 'cause there's a lot of men out there, 00:20:10.61\00:20:13.07 and they all say, "You know, she's my helpmate." 00:20:13.11\00:20:15.14 And she's not a bad person, but she's not the right person. 00:20:15.18\00:20:19.11 So what role do you think that plays 00:20:19.15\00:20:21.58 into a man's character and what a man needs, 00:20:21.62\00:20:24.02 you know, the fact that you find somebody 00:20:24.05\00:20:27.19 that seems to be a "helpmate," 00:20:27.22\00:20:28.56 but, in fact, they tend to be more detrimental than good? 00:20:28.59\00:20:31.03 Yes, Jacques. 00:20:31.06\00:20:32.39 Well, I tell, when looking for helpmate, 00:20:32.43\00:20:34.66 you should see, "Can this person help me?" 00:20:34.70\00:20:39.73 There you go, there you go. 00:20:39.77\00:20:41.10 Because if you're in the course of ministry 00:20:41.14\00:20:43.54 or if you're... 00:20:43.57\00:20:44.91 If you know the course or the trajectory of your life, 00:20:44.94\00:20:51.51 you have to look at this woman and say, 00:20:51.55\00:20:53.42 "Does she fit in with God's plan for my life?" 00:20:53.45\00:20:56.28 She might be godly, 00:20:56.32\00:20:58.45 you know, she might be a nice woman, 00:20:58.49\00:21:00.49 she might make a good mother someday, 00:21:00.52\00:21:03.36 but that does not mean that God has her for you, 00:21:03.39\00:21:06.03 because God might have her in, 00:21:06.06\00:21:08.43 let's say, the field of health sciences, 00:21:08.46\00:21:10.97 while God has for you something else, 00:21:11.00\00:21:14.14 maybe He wants you to be a missionary. 00:21:14.17\00:21:16.07 And so both of your plans 00:21:16.10\00:21:17.64 are in accordance with God's will, 00:21:17.67\00:21:19.94 but the God does not want to mesh those two. 00:21:19.97\00:21:22.21 He wants you guys to go your separate ways. 00:21:22.24\00:21:24.31 And so you have to make sure 00:21:24.35\00:21:25.68 that this person can help you in the plan 00:21:25.71\00:21:28.48 that God has given for you 00:21:28.52\00:21:29.85 or else that person isn't for you, 00:21:29.88\00:21:31.45 whether they're a good Christian or not. 00:21:31.49\00:21:33.36 Praise the Lord. 00:21:33.39\00:21:34.72 You know, that's a good man, right there. 00:21:34.76\00:21:36.09 You're a good man. 00:21:36.12\00:21:38.96 You know, we're praying about you, we're praying, 00:21:38.99\00:21:40.33 we're praying. 00:21:40.36\00:21:41.70 Right. 00:21:41.73\00:21:43.06 And I just want to add that 00:21:43.10\00:21:46.00 both people need to be ready for those roles. 00:21:46.03\00:21:48.84 It might be a good woman 00:21:48.87\00:21:50.27 or it might be nothing wrong with her, 00:21:50.31\00:21:51.77 but right now, where God has her, 00:21:51.81\00:21:54.51 He doesn't have her in a place 00:21:54.54\00:21:55.88 where she's going to be a helpmate, 00:21:55.91\00:21:57.55 you know, whatever He has going on in her life, 00:21:57.58\00:21:59.45 and maybe He doesn't have the man in a place where he, 00:21:59.48\00:22:02.98 you know, and essentially needs that support. 00:22:03.02\00:22:04.69 Going back to the Garden, Adam, at first, he didn't need any, 00:22:04.72\00:22:08.86 you know, help naming all the animals. 00:22:08.89\00:22:10.43 That was a job that God gave him to do, 00:22:10.46\00:22:12.46 and he could do it. 00:22:12.49\00:22:13.83 But for the rest of his duties, He saw fit to give him a wife, 00:22:13.86\00:22:17.43 and gave him Eve. 00:22:17.47\00:22:18.80 And so you might be at different places 00:22:18.83\00:22:20.20 where God doesn't want you to mesh like that yet 00:22:20.24\00:22:23.34 for whatever you're doing, maybe in ministry, 00:22:23.37\00:22:25.81 it could be your own character traits 00:22:25.84\00:22:28.14 because you'll find out that once you get married, 00:22:28.18\00:22:31.55 you're a little bit more crazier 00:22:31.58\00:22:32.91 than you thought you were. 00:22:32.95\00:22:34.28 You know, and there are some things 00:22:34.32\00:22:35.85 that you had to work out 00:22:35.88\00:22:37.22 that you just didn't see before, 00:22:37.25\00:22:38.59 but that other person is there 00:22:38.62\00:22:40.19 and these things come out on the table 00:22:40.22\00:22:42.59 and, you know, God fixes and solves things. 00:22:42.62\00:22:45.66 But, you know, you might be at a certain place in your life 00:22:45.69\00:22:47.93 where it's just not the right time for that. 00:22:47.96\00:22:50.53 That is true. That is true. 00:22:50.57\00:22:51.93 When you get married, you know, speaking from experience, 00:22:51.97\00:22:53.67 my lovely wife, you know, some things do come up, 00:22:53.70\00:22:56.37 and you actually start seeing your own necessities, 00:22:56.40\00:22:58.67 needs that you didn't even thought you had. 00:22:58.71\00:23:01.24 You see that reflected upon your spouse, on your wife, 00:23:01.28\00:23:04.45 that you begin to see those needs, 00:23:04.48\00:23:05.88 you know, come out, 00:23:05.91\00:23:07.25 you know, you didn't think you needed... 00:23:07.28\00:23:08.62 You thought you were patient enough, 00:23:08.65\00:23:11.22 you need a little more. 00:23:11.25\00:23:13.69 You thought, you know, "I love my wife, I'm patient, 00:23:13.72\00:23:15.36 I'm patient, I'm patient, I know that," 00:23:15.39\00:23:16.73 I love my wife though. 00:23:16.76\00:23:18.09 She's not... 00:23:18.13\00:23:19.46 She's very patient with me, I should say. 00:23:19.49\00:23:20.83 She's very patient with me. 00:23:20.86\00:23:22.20 But it's good, you know, 00:23:22.23\00:23:23.57 you need that little bit of wisdom, 00:23:23.60\00:23:24.93 you can go to your spouse. 00:23:24.97\00:23:26.30 We're reading a devotional, 00:23:26.33\00:23:27.67 you know, the other day about getting that wisdom 00:23:27.70\00:23:29.04 from your spouse. 00:23:29.07\00:23:30.41 So I think that need is there for men to really, you know, 00:23:30.44\00:23:33.27 gear down and really figure out what they want. 00:23:33.31\00:23:35.64 But one more question I want to ask, 00:23:35.68\00:23:38.05 and I want to ask our viewers too, 00:23:38.08\00:23:40.78 you know, reflect on this question. 00:23:40.82\00:23:43.28 What and why does pornography 00:23:43.32\00:23:46.76 plays or seem to play such a big necessity 00:23:46.79\00:23:50.06 in man's life today? 00:23:50.09\00:23:51.69 Why is pornography such a big need for men? 00:23:51.73\00:23:54.40 And is this something that men should want? 00:23:54.43\00:23:57.27 Well, I think it, 00:23:57.30\00:23:59.10 you know, goes a little bit piggybacking off 00:23:59.13\00:24:00.90 the first question. 00:24:00.94\00:24:02.27 What society is telling men what they should be, 00:24:02.30\00:24:05.84 that society, every time 00:24:05.87\00:24:08.54 they pose a man, as she was saying, 00:24:08.58\00:24:10.31 they look like there are men that's good sexually 00:24:10.35\00:24:15.48 and can get a lot of women and things of that nature. 00:24:15.52\00:24:18.35 And so they feed to men a lot of the physical 00:24:18.39\00:24:21.02 that they're supposed to have. 00:24:21.06\00:24:22.46 You're supposed to have physical success 00:24:22.49\00:24:24.83 with money and cars, 00:24:24.86\00:24:26.19 you're supposed to have physical fitness with the body, 00:24:26.23\00:24:28.60 and you're supposed to be physically good in bed. 00:24:28.63\00:24:31.47 And so if you don't get a lot of these girls, 00:24:31.50\00:24:34.40 if you don't get a lot of these things, 00:24:34.44\00:24:35.77 or if you believe in society, 00:24:35.80\00:24:37.14 and they have over-stimulated your sexuality, 00:24:37.17\00:24:40.04 now you can go to pornography and get that release 00:24:40.08\00:24:42.78 or get that manly feeling as it were 00:24:42.81\00:24:45.28 'cause you're a man 00:24:45.31\00:24:46.65 so this is what you're supposed to do. 00:24:46.68\00:24:48.02 You're supposed to be a sexual kind of creature, 00:24:48.05\00:24:50.49 animal, almost as it were. 00:24:50.52\00:24:52.85 Jacques? 00:24:52.89\00:24:54.22 I'd say that a lot of men feel like they need pornography 00:24:54.26\00:24:57.09 because our natural desire that God gave every man. 00:24:57.13\00:25:02.33 Every man wants to feel like a woman wants him. 00:25:02.36\00:25:06.27 And deep down inside, 00:25:06.30\00:25:07.64 every man wants a woman to want him. 00:25:07.67\00:25:09.64 You know, we might not talk about it, 00:25:09.67\00:25:11.01 we might not express it, 00:25:11.04\00:25:12.47 but that's the trap of pornography. 00:25:12.51\00:25:14.98 It's taking something that God gave us 00:25:15.01\00:25:16.54 because that is a desire from God, 00:25:16.58\00:25:18.78 to be wanted by a person of the opposite sex. 00:25:18.81\00:25:22.22 It takes that legitimate desire 00:25:22.25\00:25:24.52 and then it gives us a false way, 00:25:24.55\00:25:27.36 an illegitimate way, 00:25:27.39\00:25:28.72 to fulfill that legitimate desire. 00:25:28.76\00:25:30.96 What do you guys think though? 00:25:30.99\00:25:32.33 I want to ask the woman too 00:25:32.36\00:25:33.70 because it's been testosterone time here. 00:25:33.73\00:25:35.23 We should ask the ladies too. 00:25:35.26\00:25:36.60 Why do you guys think pornography plays 00:25:36.63\00:25:37.97 such a big role? 00:25:38.00\00:25:39.33 I think pornography plays such a big role 00:25:39.37\00:25:40.70 because across the board when... 00:25:40.74\00:25:43.30 Earlier, I was talking about 00:25:43.34\00:25:44.67 how society has those different concepts 00:25:44.71\00:25:46.74 for different men. 00:25:46.78\00:25:48.11 But one thing that has been, I want to say, 00:25:48.14\00:25:52.45 straight in every single part, 00:25:52.48\00:25:55.52 whether he is a very successful man, he has sex, 00:25:55.55\00:25:59.25 whether he is the wimp, yes, 00:25:59.29\00:26:02.19 he's going to get sex from his wife. 00:26:02.22\00:26:04.36 No matter what it is, 00:26:04.39\00:26:05.86 sex plays such a significant role 00:26:05.89\00:26:07.63 for every single different type of guy. 00:26:07.66\00:26:10.17 And that probably plays a part of it 'cause, 00:26:10.20\00:26:13.60 "Okay, I'm supposed to want it." 00:26:13.64\00:26:15.64 Even Christian woman would say that's all men want. 00:26:15.67\00:26:18.77 And that's how men are treated to be like, 00:26:18.81\00:26:22.81 if you don't have this problem, you're not really a man, 00:26:22.84\00:26:26.21 maybe something's wrong with your parts. 00:26:26.25\00:26:28.48 Wow. 00:26:28.52\00:26:29.85 What do you think, Myesha? 00:26:29.88\00:26:31.42 She said everything. 00:26:31.45\00:26:34.26 That's easier. That's a good one. 00:26:34.29\00:26:35.62 Good one there. 00:26:35.66\00:26:36.99 Now woman got to stick together, right? 00:26:37.03\00:26:39.79 But, you know, in all seriousness, 00:26:39.83\00:26:41.56 what men need, you know, 00:26:41.60\00:26:43.50 aside from what I'm going to say, 00:26:43.53\00:26:45.23 you know, they need Jesus, 00:26:45.27\00:26:47.37 aside from that, they need that validation, 00:26:47.40\00:26:49.34 you know, from good friends, from good godly friends. 00:26:49.37\00:26:53.58 They need that validation from, you know, their coworkers, 00:26:53.61\00:26:56.14 a support group, you know, really need to engage 00:26:56.18\00:26:59.01 because, as men, 00:26:59.05\00:27:00.38 we're not allowed to share our emotions. 00:27:00.42\00:27:02.48 But that's where you find that good support system 00:27:02.52\00:27:04.55 with your friends, with your guy friends, 00:27:04.59\00:27:06.42 and with your spouse. 00:27:06.45\00:27:07.96 You know, open up those lines of communication 00:27:07.99\00:27:09.79 with your wife. 00:27:09.82\00:27:11.16 Be able to, you know, open up to her and speak to her 00:27:11.19\00:27:13.43 because society tells us we can't share our emotions, 00:27:13.46\00:27:16.06 we can't share our feelings, 00:27:16.10\00:27:18.03 but God says, "You two are one." 00:27:18.07\00:27:20.87 So you need to communicate as one, understand each other, 00:27:20.90\00:27:24.71 get to know each other. 00:27:24.74\00:27:26.07 If this is a point in your marriage 00:27:26.11\00:27:27.44 where you're struggling 00:27:27.48\00:27:28.81 or maybe you're single and you're struggling, 00:27:28.84\00:27:31.18 find a refuge in Christ, 00:27:31.21\00:27:33.05 find a refuge in good godly friends, 00:27:33.08\00:27:34.92 find a refuge in your local church. 00:27:34.95\00:27:37.65 Understand that what men need is not what society says. 00:27:37.69\00:27:40.59 Men don't need just sex, don't need just alcohol, 00:27:40.62\00:27:43.96 don't need just food, or anything like that. 00:27:43.99\00:27:46.36 Men need a lot more to find that fulfillment. 00:27:46.39\00:27:49.16 And that fulfillment is not only found 00:27:49.20\00:27:51.43 in that rib that was once taken in the Garden of Eden. 00:27:51.47\00:27:53.90 That fulfillment is also found 00:27:53.94\00:27:55.54 in the loving arms of Jesus Christ. 00:27:55.57\00:27:57.87 We must understand that, as men, 00:27:57.91\00:28:00.24 we have a higher calling what the world says. 00:28:00.28\00:28:02.71 But, as always, remember to make pure choices. 00:28:02.74\00:28:06.41