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Hello, and
welcome to Pure Choices.
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I'm your host
Pastor Joshua Nelson.
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I'm so glad again,
you decided to join us
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for another edition
of Pure Choices today.
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We are talking about a
very serious topic today,
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talking about brain scrub,
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what effect the
media has on our brains.
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So before we get into this topic
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and before we
introduce our panel,
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we got to pause and
ask God to be with us.
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Dear Heavenly Father,
as we go into this subject,
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we just ask for the protection
right now of Your Spirit
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as we do war in
the enemy's camp, God,
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we ask that You
will give us guidance,
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in Jesus' name we pray, amen.
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Amen. Amen.
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All right, let's begin.
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First to my left,
I'm gonna introduce
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brother here David Anderson,
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who is a Oakwood
University theology student.
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And across the way
is actually his brother
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who is Jeremy Anderson,
who is from Madison, Alabama.
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He is a author and speaker,
so happy to have him today.
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Also Kimberly Pearson,
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who is the Oakwood
University associate chaplain
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and she's here.
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And we also have
Pastor Kory Douglas,
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who is a pastor of Grand Avenue,
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A New Life Fellowship
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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there in Missouri so.
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And I'm of course from,
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all my churches are
in Marion Lake City,
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South Carolina.
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So I'm happy that
we're all here together.
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And we really
have a big task today
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to talk about this idea
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of being
brainwashed by the media,
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we call it brain scrub.
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Let's just talk
about at first, Jeremy,
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what effect has the
media had, had on us?
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Man, it has a huge
effect on our minds.
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Okay.
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And if you think about
it, that's the very thing
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that connects us with God.
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It's not our hands... Right.
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It's not our back
bone, our chest or our heart
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that pumps blood to be honest,
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I mean, it's our brain
that connects us with God.
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And so what I found
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in the media commercial society,
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the enemy has found a
way to infiltrate our minds
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about what we watch on TV.
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And so this is a
very interesting topic
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and so I'm looking
forward to exposing the enemy
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in talking about
some of the different ways
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that he actually targets us.
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And so I believe that
we need to guard our minds
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because that's the very
thing that connects us to God.
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Yeah, that's it, that's it.
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All right, so I also
want to add to that what does,
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what does the media really
done to get us brainwashed?
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Well, media has become
a counterfeit for Christ.
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We see the Christ is an
intercessor to God for us
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and media is
really an intercessor
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to a place I
know, a satanic place,
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so Satan has allowed
media to take the place
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that Christ is really
supposed to have in our lives.
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Wow, an idiom.
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Well, I kind of want to
counter that a little bit
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because I don't
necessarily think
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that media is satanic.
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I believe that media is a tool.
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And with any tool
you can use that tool
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to build something great
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or you can use
that tool to destroy.
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And so I think
that media is a tool
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that has been used to
do destructive things,
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but it can be used
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to build up the kingdom of God,
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but I know that, I mean,
in terms of just how media
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you know, infiltrates our brain.
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You know, media
has the power as a tool
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to cause feelings
to trigger emotions,
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to trigger nostalgia
and make you think about
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you know, thing that,
maybe you haven't thought
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about in a long
time and you can do that,
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I remember listening, you know,
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certain songs when I was a
kid and now that I'm an adult,
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I'm like, that's
what they were saying,
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and I was singing that.
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Oh, man, so you do. Okay.
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You know that
thing, it's really scary
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because you know,
some of the sitcoms
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and the commercials the
things that we watch on TV,
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they're selling
a specific product
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or a specific idea
and little do we know
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but we're watching this thing,
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and it's actually
changing the way we think,
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the way we act, the way we walk,
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the way we talk.
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If you look at a child
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and the development of his brain
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even at a young age,
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it's watching his
parents do everything
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and without even
knowing it begins to imitate it.
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You know, so people
say you are what you eat.
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You know, a lot of
times you are what you watch,
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and you are what you listen to.
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And so I believe
that as Christians,
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God has created us in
with His spirit and His power,
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He's given us a certain
way to live our lifestyles,
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and a lot of times
we just see our media
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is the opposite of
that, like sex sells.
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You can talk to anybody
in the TV or movie industry,
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you got to have someone
as "beautiful or attractive
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or sexy," like sex sells, money,
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money, money,
greed, drama, controversy,
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this whole reality series thing,
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it's just going crazy.
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And so I'm sitting
back and I'm seeing that
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now what's on TV and I'm just,
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I'm just like wow,
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because we spend the majority
of our time watching it.
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I mean, if we can
ask ourselves, you know,
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when we get home from work
or school, you know, what...
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How many of us are
actually sitting down
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and pulling out the
Bible or pulling another book.
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Normally we sit
there and we plop on the TV
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and we're
watching something on TV,
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and so we have to ask ourselves
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how much time do we spend
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watching the shows that we watch
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and ultimately what is
that doing to our brain?
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Yeah, we're getting fed
all these different things.
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So yeah, so what,
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what is it really doing to
our minds, or to our brain?
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Kory, I want you to
just kind of talk about that
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a little bit with us, I mean,
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what is, what are the things
that are happening, you know,
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we've been
brainwashed for what, you know?
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Well, you know, we already
said the verse, you know,
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"By beholding
you become changed",
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and that is for good and for bad
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which of course
we'll come back to later,
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but you know when you
behold your mind eat it
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and you being to
put it out, you know,
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the things that
you see your body
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just somehow
naturally reproduces.
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And I think one of
the things that we need
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to basically get out
there and just be real about
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is that there's a controversy
that is going on around us.
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One of the misconception,
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especially among
our popular Christianity
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is that because Jesus has died,
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that the
controversy is now over,
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but the controversy even
though Satan has been defeated
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and we are now free from sin,
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we have that
possibility to be free from sin,
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the Bible said, "He's
still like a roaring lion,
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seeking whom he may devour."
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And so we have to realize
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that there's only
two sides of the story,
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there's a good
side, there's bad side
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as God and Satan,
there's no gray area.
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And so, if it's
not glorifying God,
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you know what I'm saying,
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then it has to
be glorifying Satan.
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And that's what we
refused to admit to ourselves.
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You know, we like
to say, well, you know,
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basically the show
doesn't have cursing,
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the music doesn't have cursing,
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maybe it's not
that all that bad,
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but if it's not glorifying God,
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then it has to
be glorifying Satan
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and we don't
have to really trouble
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what that's does
gonna do to your mind,
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if it's of
Satan you already know
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it's gonna have
negative effects.
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Well, I do want to
talk a little about that
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that I want to get
kind of get some things out,
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so people kind of
know what are the effects
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because somebody may say,
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"Oh, I'm not being
effected by the media,
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you know, I'm not being,"
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but what is the behavior
then that, that we can say,
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look, this is the behavior
and this has being caused
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by the brainwashing of
what's going on in the media.
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I think we're
getting de-synthesized.
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You know, I mean, we
watch all of the violence.
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You know, studies have
shown in the past 10, 12 years
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violence on TV,
and movies, and sitcoms
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have more than tripled.
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So we're used to seeing that,
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we're used to
seeing destruction,
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we're used to seeing
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all these
catastrophes take place
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and then when it happens
our hearts are turning cold
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just like the Bible says,
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it's like it
doesn't even effect us,
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oh, man, ten people
died in the car accident.
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it doesn't effect us anymore.
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So things that years
ago may have tossed us
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in a certain place,
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now we're just,
it's just the norm now
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because we're seeing
all of this violence.
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I mean it trickles over
even in the video games.
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You know, we got these
gamers, these kids are playing
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all of these games over
and over and they're killing,
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and they're robbing people,
and they're stealing cars
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and all of these stuff,
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and it just
becomes just a way of life,
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and then they're
programmed a little differently
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in their brain as opposed
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to being one and
being in communion with God.
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And so I'd be sitting back
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just watching this thing unfold.
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I believe that the
battle for our salvations
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starts in our mind.
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Yeah, yeah.
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The question is, are we fighting
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on the enemy's territory?
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Or do we, or is our mind
in a perfect peace, you know,
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consumed with the Spirit of God?
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So a lot of times
we're watching the movies,
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we're watching the TV shows
and we're getting brainwashed,
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we're falling
into a fall society,
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a fall sins of life
that the enemy has depicted.
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But when you look
at these reality shows,
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you've got these
couple, these people doing
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all sorts of stuff,
that's not, that's not reality.
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You know, there is a camera crew
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that they say cut, they
say, do that part over again,
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but we watch it and we
say that's the lifestyle
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I have to live, that's the
kind of car I need to drive,
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if I'm pretty, I gotta get this
type of shampoo, if I'm a man,
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I gotta buy this type of
truck, and it's a facade.
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Yeah, and it really
distracts us from the reality
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which is the great controversy,
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which is striving
for right, you know,
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and we get locked into
this whole idea, I mean,
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so much so that, I know for
me, I've been in a situation
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where I just
totally forgot, you know,
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what my Christian
walk is all about.
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I kind of got depressed
about things, like, man,
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I don't got this, I
don't got that and I said,
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"Oh, hold on a
second, whoa, you know,
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but the brainwash is there,
I'm not looking for the things
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in this earth,
this is not my reward,
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you know, why am I so obsessed
with these type of things?
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And so, it just, it
happens so many times
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and you don't even
catch it because you've been
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just totally
brainwashed by media.
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But that's because
there are so many venues like,
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you know, I remember
when TV used to go off
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and I'm not that old,
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but I remember when TV
used to go off at night
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until there was a point
where the advertisement,
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there was a point
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where the
portrayal of things stopped
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and you had peace
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and there's no
more peace, I mean,
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TV is on 24 hours a day.
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You know,
Facebook is on, I mean,
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you have to literally
log yourself off of Facebook,
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if not, it will stay on
in every single location
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in which you log on to it.
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And so we're
constantly being bombarded
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with these images.
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Even on Facebook
you can be anything
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you want to be on Facebook,
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there's like articles
and things there about,
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marriages are
ending over Facebook,
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relationships ending
over Facebook, over posts.
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People seeing what
looks like a happy marriage,
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seeing what
looks like, you know,
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this good guy and they're like,
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well, I want to trade in
what I have for what they have
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and we get
brainwashed into thinking
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that the grass is really
greener on the other side
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when it's really AstroTurf.
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You know, we've been...
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Oh, sorry, agree on
what you are saying,
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not a TV goes all
night, that's usually the time
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when it went off,
it's usually the time
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where it even gets worse.
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You know, that's the
time where things are "uncut"
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you know, that kind of stuff
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and even to go back to
what Jeremy was saying.
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My own personal testimony,
I mean, when I was growing up,
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you know, because I guess
the color of my skin, you know,
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we naturally listen to rap R&B,
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it's kind of what we
were taught when we were kids.
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And one of the things we
did when we played basketball
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we used to try to
get hide before the game
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so listen to rap.
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You know, because it literally
makes you high, you know,
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and we still listen to,
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I remember want to hear a
lot of jazzy before the game.
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And you know, I don't
know it was a blueprint album,
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you know, I
just, I just loved it,
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I'm not going to lie,
just loved it back in the day.
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And I remember
around that same time I was,
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I was having a lot of
anger issues, you know,
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I was having to go
to anger management,
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I was always
getting into fights.
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I want to fight people
with the smallest things, man,
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and I said to myself
one day just, you know,
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I can't be like this.
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And I said to myself,
well, what can I change,
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and I realize I started
listening to a lot of rap,
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I was going to sleep
with the radio on at night,
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not even know what
they're playing at night,
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you know what I'm saying?
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And so I stopped, I
turned off the radio,
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stop listening to
certain kinds of music.
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And honestly that things
actually got better you know,
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we're talking about the
effect that has on your mind,
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there's a lot of things that,
that you know their languages
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that's been
used, their attitudes
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that are being portrayed.
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Now we sometimes
don't even catch upfront
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but it is affecting our minds.
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Yeah, so and there is an agenda,
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there's an agenda
going on trying to attack,
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trying to capture your attention
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and that's really what we
have fed into being plugged
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in all the time
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and that really when
you were talking, Kim,
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I was thinking about
the Sabbath, you know,
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and how that is
really a time for us
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to get away from that.
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Yeah, the devil may
have tried to get, you know,
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lock you in this whole
media fictional for six days
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but at least if
you're following the Bible,
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you can have a day
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where you got rest
from in all, you know.
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I want to get David in here,
then I'm going to go to you,
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you know, just kind of
talk a little more about
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the agenda behind getting a...
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Satan trying to
getting our minds.
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Well, the agenda is
not thrown out there
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because Satan is
not going to come out
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and tell you I'm
trying to kill you.
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But music was designed
to match our heartbeat.
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And we know that our heartbeat
is controlled by our mind.
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So if music
matches our heartbeat,
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now it manipulates our mind
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and it puts our
heart into music.
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Wow.
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And so now if our
heart is into music,
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the actions that we display
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from listening to certain things
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or watching certain things
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is the agenda
that he's trying to be.
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Literally like
controlling your life.
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Yeah.
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Well, if I could, you know,
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I believe that I'll
just be little more specific.
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I believe that
one of the main things
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that Satan is
trying to do and you know,
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as preachers we
say this all the time
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when we're right at
preferably seminars,
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but I believe that first of
all Satan is trying to prove
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that he's not real, you know,
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he wants to kind of
dumb down his presence
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in movies and television.
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You know, even now
when we think about evil,
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we usually think
about Taliban, you know,
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we don't really think Satan
when we hear evil, you know,
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we think terrorist.
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You know, and I
think another thing he does
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what the media is very
good at, is distracting us.
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You know, if Satan can keep
our attention on other stuff,
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then we won't
pay attention to God.
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And so when we watch
shows like back in the day
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we used to
watch Cribs, you know,
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that shows this
all these big houses.
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As a kid you watched
that and you're thinking, man,
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I got to get that house.
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And so now all your attention
is pulled to gain that house
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and so you, where you
would have gone to school,
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now you're going to school
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because I got to get that house.
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You know, what I'm
saying, you're distracted
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by all the stuff even
like Kim said, you see these,
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these
relationships on television,
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you see all the
stuff, the fashion, whatever,
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and you spent all your attention
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trying to go after that stuff,
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and I believe one
of the biggest agendas
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of Satan is to just
keep our minds distracted,
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and not to, not to belabor,
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but it reminds me of something
I preached the other day
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where Jesus says in the end time
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our job is to watch,
to stand, to be on guard,
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lest these things
should overcome us.
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We've got to keep our eyes
focused on the sky, you know,
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lift up your head
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because your
redemption draw nigh,
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and Satan is trying to make sure
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our eyes are pointed
at the ground you know,
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and so that's
something we got to,
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we got to be on guard.
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Yeah, that distraction,
that distraction thing
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is so serious, and I
believe that the enemy is like,
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I don't even need
you killing people,
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I'll let you sleeping
around and strolling on drugs
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as long as you're
not active in service,
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as long as I have
you in front of this TV
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four, five, six hours a
day, then I've got you there.
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You know, because we put
this in the mold of the limbo,
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like we're watching
TV to be entertained,
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like the entertainment
intertwining of our minds,
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like there's no thought process,
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we're just sitting
here and we're watching this
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and then what
happens with the perception.
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And the plot of the enemy
is to break up the family,
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it's to break up the home,
that's the number one plot.
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And if you just take a second
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and if our viewers
would just take a moment
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and just look at
some of the major networks
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and some of the
shows that's coming on,
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they were attacking marriage
on a whole another level now.
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And that's why
marriages in the church,
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in our Sabbath
church are struggling
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and the divorce
rate has got hot,
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because every sitcom you watch,
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there's some type of you know,
revenge that's taking place
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or some type of scandal
that's happening on the show,
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that just totally derails
you, you know, from there.
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And so we have to
make sure that the things
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that will be watched coincides
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with what we
believe with our savior.
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You know, it's just
shows that I'm watching,
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is it helping me get
closer to the Christ,
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or is it drawing me away?
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Is it helping me tap
into a mode of complacency
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in my marriage?
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Or is it challenging me
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to seeking for
more righteousness?
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Yeah.
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And that's the last thing that
television nowadays is doing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You have to ask that question
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that's all about
being a mature Christian.
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That's right. That's
right. Yeah, but you know what?
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A lot of times, I think
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we deceive
ourselves into believing
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that we can
filter our own reigns.
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That we can
discern and figure out,
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oh, that's targeted to me,
so I'm not going to watch that.
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And it's so much
more subtle than that.
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A perfect example, you
know, we're on, you know,
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we're talking, we're on set
and Jeremy was singing a song
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and he was just singing,
just humming it to himself,
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and I went back later on
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and I was like
humming this song like what,
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"Why am I humming this song?"
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And then later on I came back
and he was singing I was like,
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that's where
that song came from,
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he was singing it,
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my subconscious picked it
up without me even knowing it
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and I found myself
singing it later on.
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Wow.
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And so that happens
with so many other things
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that we see that
we're feeding ourselves
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that we're not realizing,
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the same way I can
go pick up a French fry,
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I know it's a French
fry, eat a French fry
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but all the stuff that
went into making a French fry
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I don't know,
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but it's
affecting my body in ways
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that I'm not cognizant of
during the digestion process.
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It's the same
thing, the things we ingest
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are affecting our
minds and our souls
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during that
digestion process in a way
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that we're not even aware of.
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So we have to stop playing
with ourselves and saying that,
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Lord, I know, I know
they're targeting me.
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Yeah, and that goes
into my other question
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is because now you're
saying I'm mature Christian,
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I know what, are you
all, I'm listening to,
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watching Pure Choices,
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I know exactly
what media is doing
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but does it mean
now I am protected,
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now I can just, you know,
I know the agenda behind it,
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it's not I'm just gonna
watch whatever I want to watch.
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David, talk to me as
a young brother, man,
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schoolman know that, it's hard.
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I mean, even, even I know older,
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the older generation still
has to really rely on Christ
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to tell them what
they have to watch
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and what they have to listen to
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because nothing
new is under the sun.
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And we fight not
against flesh and blood
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but against
principalities and high places.
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And it's really hard to say
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what to watch and
what not to watch,
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you can't have a definite list,
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because something
that I can handle,
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another person can't handle.
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A case in point,
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there are some gospel songs
that actually push an agenda
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that is not gospel related.
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And so I can break that
down, me being a theology major,
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but the next person might
not be able to, so I would...
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It varies in
different situation.
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Yeah, and that's all about
staying in the word, you know,
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willing to be able to
discern that, you know,
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when you stay in the word.
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Well, if I could
just play devil's advocate
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for a little bit
because I do, I do,
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I do kind of believe that
there are maturity levels,
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that certain people are
able to handle certain things,
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you know, I don't
make a conscious effort
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listening to certain
things but if I hear it,
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I know I can handle it,
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even though I do understand also
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that certain things do
just get by your subconscious.
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But I also hear what
you're saying in that,
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and I tell my
peoples all time as a pastor,
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there's certain
songs I don't want them
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to sing in church
because there's certain songs
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that are just,
they have messages
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that we sing
and we just kind of,
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we think it as gospel that
is acceptable, you know, like,
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like one hymn I think about
you know, man, "I Fly Away",
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"One Bright Morning", you know,
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songs that kind of
talk about the, you know,
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historically tell
about the rapture,
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you know that, we don't believe
in but we sing it, you know.
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I believe at the end
of the day though that
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it boils down not to
just what you do, don't do,
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watch and don't watch,
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but more so about having
the spirit of discernment
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which of course you
know you cannot have,
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but God has to give it to you.
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And so when we talk
to people about well,
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what to do with media is that
we're not saying pray to God,
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tell me to discern, I'm
just going to watch everything,
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I'm still gonna
watch what I'm watching,
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but I want to pray and
say God give me Your Spirit
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so that I can know for myself
what is wrong, what is right,
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what I can't
handle, what I can handle,
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what I should
say in front of them,
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what I shouldn't
say in front of them.
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Okay.
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You know, that's, that's
so beautiful what you said,
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and you know, God convicted
me on something similar to that
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because I was like, God, I want
to hear Your voice, I was like,
00:19:52.15\00:19:54.42
God, speak to me.
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And God says, "Son,
I'll talk to you all day."
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The question is, are you
gonna be obedient to My voice.
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So I would challenge
us all and the viewers
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that's watching this
program to really ask yourself.
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Next time the Holy Spirit says,
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that's show is not of My spirit,
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I don't want you watching it.
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What are you going
to do at that time?
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Yeah.
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Do you still watch it, is
that your guilty pleasure,
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or do you say,
you know, what, God,
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this isn't feeding me,
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it's not helping me grow in You.
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And so I'm going to move from it
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you know, but we look to be,
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you know, entertained
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and that's where the
enemy gets the victory.
00:20:22.85\00:20:24.62
Yeah, and another
thing that, you know,
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I'm talking about pure
choices again and sexual purity,
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another thing that
you know, television does,
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is that it can kind of be as
a, serve as a trigger, you know,
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where it can
intrigue you into things
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and looking at
things especially,
00:20:37.77\00:20:39.10
you know, at
least for me, you know,
00:20:39.13\00:20:40.47
I'm looking at how that view,
few ladies went down there,
00:20:40.50\00:20:43.91
you know, you have
to be very, very careful
00:20:43.94\00:20:45.44
and still like
that because that's,
00:20:45.47\00:20:46.88
is really the sexual
demons are trying to capture you
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by using that stimuli to really
get you into a darker place.
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Do you know what
if I can add and we...
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You want to go? No, go ahead.
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Okay. I'm after you.
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I think it's
important to point out
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that there aren't two
choices when it comes to this.
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I don't believe that
when it comes to media
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and the affect it's having that
the only two choices are don't
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and do not watch.
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You know, and I don't think
those are the only two choices.
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I think that we also
need to add that Satan, yeah,
00:21:15.74\00:21:18.91
he has his creativities,
00:21:18.94\00:21:20.28
yeah, he can make
things sound good, look good,
00:21:20.31\00:21:22.61
but if Satan can do that
00:21:22.64\00:21:23.98
and God can do far
much more than that.
00:21:24.01\00:21:25.65
And I think one of
things that we leave out,
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is that God can also empower
us to be able to create things
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that are
holistic, that are edifying
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and that are enjoyable.
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And so you know, I
will challenge those
00:21:36.12\00:21:37.69
who view those
who watch, you know,
00:21:37.73\00:21:39.66
pray to God and say, well, God,
00:21:39.69\00:21:41.06
not only do I not want to
watch things that aren't pure,
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but I want to be
able to be a conduit
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and someone you can use to
create things that are pure.
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We talk about the fact
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we're sitting
on a set right now.
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Yeah.
00:21:50.84\00:21:52.17
You know, talking
about these things
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because somebody was
led by the Holy Spirit,
00:21:53.58\00:21:54.91
you know, what I'm
saying to be creative
00:21:54.94\00:21:56.28
and to put
something else out there,
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and I think that's something
we have talked to as well.
00:21:57.68\00:21:59.01
We have young people
out there that are gifted,
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that are talented,
00:22:00.45\00:22:01.88
who can do and
make things better
00:22:01.92\00:22:03.25
than what the
enemy has out there.
00:22:03.28\00:22:04.62
Yeah, amen.
00:22:04.65\00:22:05.99
You know, I was gonna
say that talking about
00:22:06.02\00:22:08.99
how the media pulls us
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and then creates sexual scripts.
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And so it creates
these sexual scripts
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that we especially as women
00:22:17.03\00:22:19.40
turn into these
little fantasies,
00:22:19.43\00:22:21.70
"Oh, I want to gotta
do that from me, oh, oh,
00:22:21.74\00:22:24.47
when I get married I want it
to look like this and I want,
00:22:24.51\00:22:27.71
and I want my
relationship to look like that
00:22:27.74\00:22:29.41
and we create the,
yeah, we create these,
00:22:29.44\00:22:31.31
we create these sexual scripts.
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And so then we expect
the people in our lives
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to act
according to those scripts
00:22:36.58\00:22:38.49
and then when they
don't, there's dysfunction,
00:22:38.52\00:22:40.86
there's unhealthy relationships,
00:22:40.89\00:22:42.69
there's all this tension in
00:22:42.72\00:22:44.53
and just all this
mess that we have created
00:22:44.56\00:22:49.06
living up to the fairytales
that TV creates for us.
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And nowadays a lot
of TV is like soft porn.
00:22:52.70\00:22:55.30
Yeah.
00:22:55.34\00:22:56.67
You know what I
mean, everything but,
00:22:56.71\00:22:58.57
and all that does is feed
into, now you're in a situation,
00:22:58.61\00:23:03.78
let's say you're in a
car, it's late, it's dark,
00:23:03.81\00:23:06.55
this scenario looks
like the scenario I saw on TV
00:23:06.58\00:23:10.59
that played out in a way
00:23:10.62\00:23:12.85
then I want my life to play out,
00:23:12.89\00:23:15.02
now I expected to
play out in that way,
00:23:15.06\00:23:17.73
so I let down my standards,
I led down my boundaries
00:23:17.76\00:23:20.63
and now I have no
defense mechanisms
00:23:20.66\00:23:22.93
against this situation.
00:23:22.96\00:23:24.47
So the Bible
talks about, you know,
00:23:24.50\00:23:26.07
lifting up a
standard and talks about that,
00:23:26.10\00:23:27.94
that you know we have to
guard the avenues of ourselves
00:23:27.97\00:23:32.04
not just put
sentinels around the house,
00:23:32.07\00:23:34.68
but you need to put some guards
in the street down the block
00:23:34.71\00:23:37.91
to make sure that
things aren't coming your way.
00:23:37.95\00:23:39.71
As you're saying that,
00:23:39.75\00:23:41.08
I don't know if I can share this
00:23:41.12\00:23:42.45
but as you're saying
that I remember thing like,
00:23:42.48\00:23:43.89
I remember when I was,
you know, dating and you know,
00:23:43.92\00:23:45.89
date and breakup and I
used to listen to secular music
00:23:45.92\00:23:49.22
and let that, let
those words free my mind
00:23:49.26\00:23:51.59
about different
relationships whatnot.
00:23:51.63\00:23:52.96
I almost felt like I
was in a movie you know,
00:23:52.99\00:23:54.46
and I listen to
music and everything like
00:23:54.50\00:23:56.20
certain artist
was telling me stuff
00:23:56.23\00:23:57.77
and I'd be looking to
it again and that's it,
00:23:57.80\00:24:00.00
you know, that's what
I'm going through you know,
00:24:00.04\00:24:01.37
and I would go and do the things
00:24:01.40\00:24:02.74
that were safer for me to
do and feel those weight up,
00:24:02.77\00:24:04.91
and I'm just like, now, I
look back and I said, man,
00:24:04.94\00:24:06.91
I was totally trapped.
00:24:06.94\00:24:08.28
I was looking at the word
for those, for the solutions,
00:24:08.31\00:24:10.48
I was listening
to this artist here,
00:24:10.51\00:24:12.75
that artist there you
know, rap secular artists,
00:24:12.78\00:24:14.85
may not even know God to
direct me in my decisions
00:24:14.88\00:24:17.75
or my choices.
00:24:17.79\00:24:19.12
And it was so deep
as you say to direct you
00:24:19.15\00:24:21.46
in your decisions and choices.
00:24:21.49\00:24:23.56
And so what happens
is we don't even know
00:24:23.59\00:24:25.23
about the media, music,
media, the sitcoms, the movies,
00:24:25.26\00:24:28.50
they're directing
us in a specific ways
00:24:28.53\00:24:31.07
by the functioning of
our brain on how the operate.
00:24:31.10\00:24:33.87
And the Bible
clearly speaks against that.
00:24:33.90\00:24:36.14
Romans 2:12 says,
"Not to be like the world
00:24:36.17\00:24:39.27
but to be ye transformed
by the renewing of your mind."
00:24:39.31\00:24:42.41
So God and His infinite
wisdom and power and glory
00:24:42.44\00:24:45.78
knew in the Bible days, he said,
00:24:45.81\00:24:47.62
look, in the last days you
guys are going to be dealing
00:24:47.65\00:24:50.29
with some serious stuff
00:24:50.32\00:24:51.65
and the battle for our salvation
00:24:51.69\00:24:53.02
is right here in our mind
00:24:53.05\00:24:54.39
and it's
important that we keep God
00:24:54.42\00:24:55.82
and His love and His power
consuming within our brain,
00:24:55.86\00:24:58.69
that's the only way
00:24:58.73\00:25:00.06
that we're going to fight
this down and move forward.
00:25:00.10\00:25:01.43
Because there really is a
study of our brains being done
00:25:01.46\00:25:03.37
by the media
trying to capture us
00:25:03.40\00:25:05.27
to get us off there.
00:25:05.30\00:25:07.50
There's a study
called type scenes
00:25:07.54\00:25:10.07
that sitcoms have adopted.
00:25:10.11\00:25:12.21
And what it is, is each episode
they have the same format
00:25:12.24\00:25:16.44
of the story that
they want to portray
00:25:16.48\00:25:18.61
but in each episode
is a different details,
00:25:18.65\00:25:21.55
different characters.
00:25:21.58\00:25:22.92
And the Bible
actually has the same format,
00:25:22.95\00:25:25.99
especially in
Genesis, we see in every story
00:25:26.02\00:25:29.52
particular story in Genesis
it follows the same format,
00:25:29.56\00:25:32.09
different characters,
00:25:32.13\00:25:33.46
different place, different time.
00:25:33.50\00:25:35.36
And with this type scene format,
00:25:35.40\00:25:38.70
we find that by the end
00:25:38.73\00:25:42.10
or along the road
we're picking it up
00:25:42.14\00:25:46.11
more and more
00:25:46.14\00:25:47.48
and we start acting
out these types scenes.
00:25:47.51\00:25:49.54
And in the Bible if
we're daily in the Bible
00:25:49.58\00:25:52.71
and reading the Bible,
00:25:52.75\00:25:54.08
the type scenes in the Bible
00:25:54.12\00:25:55.68
we're going to act that out too.
00:25:55.72\00:25:57.29
Wow, wow, wow.
00:25:57.32\00:25:58.65
You know, I also want
to say along these lines
00:25:58.69\00:26:01.72
that there are
some drastic measures
00:26:01.76\00:26:04.13
that are often taken
when it comes to media.
00:26:04.16\00:26:06.36
People hear
things, oh, media is bad,
00:26:06.39\00:26:09.70
let's go break all of our
CDs, throw away all our DVDs,
00:26:09.73\00:26:12.97
cancel the cable,
you know what I mean,
00:26:13.00\00:26:15.60
and two weeks later
00:26:15.64\00:26:17.51
you're downloading the
same stuff back off iTunes
00:26:17.54\00:26:20.21
so you don't have cable,
00:26:20.24\00:26:21.68
now you got
Netflix and Hulu, you know,
00:26:21.71\00:26:23.85
it just brings it to
your phone and it's just like
00:26:23.88\00:26:26.08
there has to be more than
just getting rid of the source,
00:26:26.11\00:26:29.65
that's not the end all,
be all, it has to go deeper,
00:26:29.68\00:26:32.52
it has to go down into,
God, I want You to transform me
00:26:32.55\00:26:35.96
and make me more like You.
00:26:35.99\00:26:39.36
And that is a process
00:26:39.39\00:26:42.00
and sometimes when
you try to go this,
00:26:42.03\00:26:44.53
you know, direct
route, let God do it the way
00:26:44.57\00:26:47.97
God needs to do it in your life,
00:26:48.00\00:26:50.61
I just want to, you know,
just throw that out there.
00:26:50.64\00:26:51.97
Appreciate that, and
I'm, our time is running now,
00:26:52.01\00:26:53.81
I want to end with this,
00:26:53.84\00:26:55.61
with this kind of
a testimony for me
00:26:55.64\00:26:57.15
because I see a
lot of young people
00:26:57.18\00:26:58.51
who are plugged in all the time,
00:26:58.55\00:27:00.85
they're looking at their phones,
00:27:00.88\00:27:02.22
they have their earphones in
00:27:02.25\00:27:03.59
and they're listening
something always being fed
00:27:03.62\00:27:04.95
by what's going on in the media
or what's being fed to them,
00:27:04.99\00:27:07.12
and that was me, you know,
00:27:07.16\00:27:08.49
I was kind of that
individual, you know,
00:27:08.52\00:27:09.86
just walking through life,
just looking at whatever it was
00:27:09.89\00:27:13.50
that was presented to me.
00:27:13.53\00:27:15.13
You know, but one day I
just unplugged everything
00:27:15.16\00:27:18.67
and I just looked up,
it was even got look up
00:27:18.70\00:27:21.27
and I saw the stars in
the sky and I saw the moon
00:27:21.30\00:27:24.51
and I said, wow,
00:27:24.54\00:27:25.97
there's something bigger than me
00:27:26.01\00:27:27.58
just putting the earplugs,
00:27:27.61\00:27:28.94
I was just encouraged to
just to put down that phone,
00:27:28.98\00:27:31.15
put down turn
the TV off sometimes
00:27:31.18\00:27:32.91
and just remember
who God really is.
00:27:32.95\00:27:35.25
I want to end with
this verse Romans 12:2,
00:27:35.28\00:27:37.59
"And be not
conform to this world,
00:27:37.62\00:27:39.75
but be ye transformed by
the renewing of your mind.
00:27:39.79\00:27:42.52
Then ye may prove what
is that good and acceptable
00:27:42.56\00:27:45.03
and perfect will of God."
00:27:45.06\00:27:47.23
That's it, we have to
be brainwashed by Jesus,
00:27:47.26\00:27:50.00
let Him create us as a
new, a new heart, a new mind
00:27:50.03\00:27:52.57
and let Him be the
influence in our lives.
00:27:52.60\00:27:54.27
Remember, always
make Pure Choices.
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