The following program discusses sensitive issues. 00:00:01.09\00:00:03.63 Parents are cautioned that some material may be 00:00:03.66\00:00:05.87 too candid for younger children. 00:00:05.90\00:00:07.54 Hello and welcome to "Pure Choices." 00:00:39.61\00:00:41.25 I'm your host Pastor Joshua Nelson. 00:00:41.28\00:00:43.48 I'm so glad you decided to join us 00:00:43.51\00:00:45.26 because we have a good one for you today. 00:00:45.29\00:00:48.38 We're talking about how to get a mate 00:00:48.41\00:00:51.91 "Eenie, Meenie, Miney, Mo, Catch a Spouse by the Toe." 00:00:51.94\00:00:54.94 We're gonna talk about it how you're gonna do, 00:00:54.97\00:00:56.31 how you're gonna catch, 00:00:56.34\00:00:57.41 how you're gonna get somebody to marry you. 00:00:57.44\00:01:00.43 So before we go into the topic 00:01:00.46\00:01:01.88 I'm gonna introduce our panel for today. 00:01:01.91\00:01:04.80 We have my good friend, Jeanne Mogusu, 00:01:04.83\00:01:07.18 she is a graduating seminary student. 00:01:07.21\00:01:10.00 And actually she is the president of 00:01:10.03\00:01:11.67 the Black Student Association of the Seminary. 00:01:11.70\00:01:13.66 So happy have her here today. 00:01:13.69\00:01:15.41 We also have Pastor Marquis Jackson 00:01:15.44\00:01:18.56 who is the pastor in South Carolina, 00:01:18.59\00:01:21.72 the pastor of Berea and Maranatha, 00:01:21.75\00:01:24.42 Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:01:24.45\00:01:25.61 Glad to have you here. 00:01:25.64\00:01:26.67 We also have Chaplain Kimberley Pearson, 00:01:26.70\00:01:30.13 who is the Assistant Chaplain at Oakwood University. 00:01:30.16\00:01:33.15 Good friend of mine. 00:01:33.18\00:01:34.36 And we also have Kean Baxter, yes, who is also a-- 00:01:34.39\00:01:38.29 he graduated already from the seminary, 00:01:38.32\00:01:40.62 a very educated young brother. 00:01:40.65\00:01:41.72 So we have a good panel today. 00:01:41.75\00:01:42.84 We are gonna get into this subject 00:01:42.87\00:01:44.05 and before we really talk about it, 00:01:44.08\00:01:45.72 I want to read this letter that was sent in 00:01:45.75\00:01:49.52 by a young individual, 00:01:49.55\00:01:51.56 and we want to read 00:01:51.59\00:01:52.95 what their question or scenario, 00:01:52.98\00:01:54.67 what their question is. 00:01:54.70\00:01:56.39 Okay, so let's hear what it says here. 00:01:56.42\00:01:57.73 It says, "I'm a freshman in college 00:01:57.76\00:02:00.60 and I've only dated one guy. 00:02:00.63\00:02:02.69 I'm told how pretty I am all the time, 00:02:02.72\00:02:05.29 but for some reason guys don't really 00:02:05.32\00:02:07.31 seem to be interested in me. 00:02:07.34\00:02:09.46 I don't think I'm ugly. 00:02:09.49\00:02:10.77 I do think there has to be something wrong with me though. 00:02:10.80\00:02:13.69 How do I get guys notice me without dressing skimpy 00:02:13.72\00:02:16.63 and overdoing it on the makeup and crazy hairstyles? 00:02:16.66\00:02:19.38 I want to get guys' attention 00:02:19.41\00:02:20.84 without doing these things that are just not me. 00:02:20.87\00:02:24.34 What should I do?" 00:02:24.37\00:02:25.40 So she's in need, 00:02:25.43\00:02:28.69 she wants to know how to get that mate. 00:02:28.72\00:02:30.30 So what would you all say to her? 00:02:30.33\00:02:33.05 One thing I will say is as a lady, your identity, 00:02:33.08\00:02:36.58 when you are comfortable who you are in yourself 00:02:36.61\00:02:39.78 that eventually will naturally pull. 00:02:39.81\00:02:41.65 It could be even good that you don't have 00:02:41.68\00:02:43.22 a whole bunch of guys trying to come after you 00:02:43.25\00:02:44.80 because if they started coming after you, 00:02:44.83\00:02:46.68 then it could start causing to have 00:02:46.71\00:02:48.23 different perspectives looking at different people. 00:02:48.26\00:02:50.38 But God will set someone in store for you. 00:02:50.41\00:02:54.35 But continue to be confident in yourself 00:02:54.38\00:02:56.42 and just rest in the Lord and just wait till He brings 00:02:56.45\00:02:58.90 what is best and suitable for you. 00:02:58.93\00:03:00.84 Okay. 00:03:00.87\00:03:02.62 Jeanne, as a woman, 00:03:02.65\00:03:03.71 what kind of words of advice you can give to her? 00:03:03.74\00:03:06.09 Well, first of all I would like to comment her 00:03:06.12\00:03:08.25 for not trying to get the men in, you know, 00:03:08.28\00:03:14.50 more traditional ways trying to dress skimpy. 00:03:14.53\00:03:17.65 Those are not the kind of people 00:03:17.68\00:03:18.76 that you want to attract. 00:03:18.79\00:03:19.92 You want to attract for a husband, 00:03:19.95\00:03:21.42 a very serious human being. 00:03:21.45\00:03:23.85 So if he is attracted to you 00:03:23.88\00:03:25.52 because you are dressing skimpy, 00:03:25.55\00:03:27.33 I would say that is definitely not a husband material. 00:03:27.36\00:03:31.38 You want someone to fall in love with you 00:03:31.41\00:03:33.26 for who you are-- 00:03:33.29\00:03:34.39 the essence of yourself of, 00:03:34.42\00:03:36.21 you know, who you are and not just because you, 00:03:36.24\00:03:38.57 you know, you dress skimpy or you look good physically. 00:03:38.60\00:03:41.54 Because those things wear off, 00:03:41.57\00:03:42.90 and you want someone for a long period of time. 00:03:42.93\00:03:46.24 And I'll also tell her, you know, 00:03:46.27\00:03:48.83 don't be too attached to the idea of 00:03:48.86\00:03:52.64 you want to have someone. 00:03:52.67\00:03:54.38 You know, you want to have your essence, 00:03:54.41\00:03:56.61 your value placed in much more than 00:03:56.64\00:03:59.22 just having someone next to you. 00:03:59.25\00:04:01.64 Yes. Okay. 00:04:01.67\00:04:02.72 That makes sense. And another woman here. 00:04:02.75\00:04:04.36 I'm gonna say, I think what Jeanne said is 00:04:04.39\00:04:05.96 so important that I think sometimes as women, 00:04:05.99\00:04:09.38 we attach our identity into having a man. 00:04:09.41\00:04:12.92 And, I think, society, kind of, puts that on us as well that, 00:04:12.95\00:04:16.13 you know, until you have a man, until you have a husband 00:04:16.16\00:04:18.78 you're not really a woman 00:04:18.81\00:04:20.25 or if you don't have someone, something is wrong with you. 00:04:20.28\00:04:22.82 But as a man it's okay not to have-- 00:04:22.85\00:04:24.11 Exactly. A wife. 00:04:24.14\00:04:25.20 It's cool, right. It's cool. 00:04:25.23\00:04:26.40 And so what I hear in that letter is that 00:04:26.43\00:04:27.88 she really wants to in a relationship. 00:04:27.91\00:04:29.73 I would ask her why. 00:04:29.76\00:04:31.33 What is the desire behind wanting to be in a relationship 00:04:31.36\00:04:34.93 and does she value herself outside of the relationship? 00:04:34.96\00:04:37.55 When we look at creation, Adam and Eve, 00:04:37.58\00:04:39.91 both had individual encounters with God 00:04:39.94\00:04:42.87 before they were brought together as a couple. 00:04:42.90\00:04:46.04 So has she had an encounter with God? 00:04:46.07\00:04:47.81 What is God's direction for her in terms of dating? 00:04:47.84\00:04:50.90 She has to know herself. Okay. 00:04:50.93\00:04:53.01 So just gonna kind of tell us out there 00:04:53.04\00:04:56.27 why do you all think it takes so much longer, 00:04:56.30\00:04:58.22 and it just seems to me it takes a little bit longer 00:04:58.25\00:05:00.10 for people to get married nowadays. 00:05:00.13\00:05:01.30 I remember my parents, 00:05:01.33\00:05:02.86 you know, they would have been married, 00:05:02.89\00:05:04.84 you know, I'm just now looking to get married, 00:05:04.87\00:05:06.53 you know, and I shout out to my fiancee Kimberly does, 00:05:06.56\00:05:09.86 you know, so I'm just gonna say that right there. 00:05:09.89\00:05:11.85 But, you know I'm just now getting married. 00:05:11.88\00:05:13.82 You know, and I'm 27, 00:05:13.85\00:05:16.33 you know, my parents they got married way younger. 00:05:16.36\00:05:18.82 So why is it now it seems that it's just taking people 00:05:18.85\00:05:20.58 longer to really get married? 00:05:20.61\00:05:25.12 There are, I think a lot of contributing factors, 00:05:25.15\00:05:28.57 the societal factors 00:05:28.60\00:05:31.76 we are spending longer in school. 00:05:31.79\00:05:34.07 It's taking more education to make a living wage. 00:05:34.10\00:05:37.98 As economy getting worse, it's harder to find jobs. 00:05:38.01\00:05:41.09 Okay. That's one thing. 00:05:41.12\00:05:43.58 The other thing is-- 00:05:43.61\00:05:45.42 if you go back to 100 years, 150 years, 00:05:45.45\00:05:49.41 humans were maturing very faster emotionally, 00:05:49.44\00:05:55.09 they knew who they were, 00:05:55.12\00:05:56.29 they were able to take on 00:05:56.32\00:05:58.40 responsibility at a younger age, 00:05:58.43\00:06:01.23 not too long after puberty, 00:06:01.26\00:06:03.23 few years they were able to find a job 00:06:03.26\00:06:05.70 and started a family. 00:06:05.73\00:06:08.69 But I think that 00:06:08.72\00:06:10.13 because of the degradation of society 00:06:10.16\00:06:13.40 we're taking longer to mature. 00:06:13.43\00:06:14.82 We don't know who we are. 00:06:14.85\00:06:16.61 We are in adolescence for extended period of time 00:06:16.64\00:06:19.10 till the 20s and late 30s. 00:06:19.13\00:06:21.67 Okay, let me go down to the economy little bit. 00:06:21.70\00:06:23.51 Okay, it's all right. 00:06:23.54\00:06:24.90 You know, also I'd like say too, 00:06:24.93\00:06:26.51 is, you know, um, there's a generation now 00:06:26.54\00:06:28.74 that is grown up to be very skeptical. 00:06:28.77\00:06:31.74 Seeing, you know, their families, 00:06:31.77\00:06:34.07 their parents be married 00:06:34.10\00:06:35.74 and they get divorced shortly after. 00:06:35.77\00:06:37.68 Then we also live the world of media-- 00:06:37.71\00:06:40.06 there is, you know, there should old days, 00:06:40.09\00:06:42.43 you know, that kind of black and white days TV days, 00:06:42.46\00:06:45.39 they used to have husband and wife 00:06:45.42\00:06:46.68 they'd be married and everything will happen, 00:06:46.71\00:06:48.16 the mother, the father, 00:06:48.19\00:06:50.25 the dog and a son and a daughter 00:06:50.28\00:06:52.04 and everything just went well. 00:06:52.07\00:06:53.15 Everything was perfect. Everything was perfect. 00:06:53.18\00:06:54.34 Yeah. They drank milk-- 00:06:54.37\00:06:56.13 they trained horses all the time. 00:06:56.16\00:06:57.28 Yeah. 00:06:57.31\00:06:58.34 But now the TV show that come out 00:06:58.37\00:07:00.63 you have the husband and wife 00:07:00.66\00:07:01.98 they always find out each other, 00:07:02.01\00:07:03.43 the children have respect for their parents. 00:07:03.46\00:07:05.48 And the generation now is watching these episodes 00:07:05.51\00:07:09.16 and the Bible says by beholding one becomes changed. 00:07:09.19\00:07:11.82 So when they watch it, it becomes part of them, 00:07:11.85\00:07:13.71 so this generation has become 00:07:13.74\00:07:15.60 even more skeptical of relationship 00:07:15.63\00:07:17.28 to see will they work. 00:07:17.31\00:07:18.37 Yeah. Yeah. 00:07:18.40\00:07:19.55 I think, though in terms of dating, 00:07:19.58\00:07:23.04 you know, we're trying to find a spouse. 00:07:23.07\00:07:26.54 I think, sometimes we get caught up 00:07:26.57\00:07:28.28 in the idea of being married. 00:07:28.31\00:07:30.21 We fantasize about it, like, you know, 00:07:30.24\00:07:33.00 women when we actually go out with a guy 00:07:33.03\00:07:35.33 we actually give you the time of the day. 00:07:35.36\00:07:37.16 We've already decided in our minds 00:07:37.19\00:07:38.80 you are probably husband material. 00:07:38.83\00:07:40.83 And so we've already, kind of, 00:07:40.86\00:07:43.19 pick you out and so we fantasize 00:07:43.22\00:07:45.54 what our last name would sound like next to yours, 00:07:45.57\00:07:48.77 and all those things. 00:07:48.80\00:07:50.20 And we romanticize the ideas, so much-- 00:07:50.23\00:07:53.03 Really? 00:07:53.06\00:07:54.09 That without it we feel like, 00:07:54.12\00:07:56.78 we are not whole, we are not complete. 00:07:56.81\00:07:59.35 There is something is wrong with us. 00:07:59.38\00:08:01.27 And so I just think that's very interesting 00:08:01.30\00:08:03.80 why as women do we do that? 00:08:03.83\00:08:05.72 Do we ascribe our value to being married 00:08:05.75\00:08:08.77 and is there biblical base behind that? 00:08:08.80\00:08:10.51 It's a question. Yeah. 00:08:10.54\00:08:12.59 I wasn't gonna answer that question. 00:08:12.62\00:08:14.86 But I was gonna say that 00:08:14.89\00:08:18.14 when you look at the ratio 00:08:18.17\00:08:19.86 of eligible young men and eligible young women, 00:08:19.89\00:08:24.64 it's in the men's favor 00:08:24.67\00:08:27.26 if you're gonna look at it that way. 00:08:27.29\00:08:29.86 It's easily, you know, 80 percent women, 00:08:29.89\00:08:33.15 20 percent men and sometimes, 00:08:33.18\00:08:35.35 you know, 70, 30 somewhere around there. 00:08:35.38\00:08:38.18 So because of that, 00:08:38.21\00:08:41.05 men are playing the field more especially 00:08:41.08\00:08:44.29 if there are women, 00:08:44.32\00:08:45.76 certain type of women who are in order 00:08:45.79\00:08:48.30 to get the attention of men 00:08:48.33\00:08:49.41 will dress a certain way 00:08:49.44\00:08:51.04 and allow the man to do certain things with the woman. 00:08:51.07\00:08:56.55 Sexuality getting, 00:08:56.58\00:08:58.20 physically intimate before marriage. 00:08:58.23\00:09:01.45 So these are other things 00:09:01.48\00:09:03.41 that are contributing to the fact 00:09:03.44\00:09:05.05 that men are just not, stepping up, 00:09:05.08\00:09:09.12 you know, being men. 00:09:09.15\00:09:11.44 Yeah, I'm so happy you said that. 00:09:11.47\00:09:13.20 They can praise that. 00:09:13.23\00:09:14.48 I mean, you know-- Yeah. 00:09:14.51\00:09:16.51 I mean there are a lot of options out there 00:09:16.54\00:09:18.42 so hey I don't want to-- 00:09:18.45\00:09:19.92 I want to able take advantage this 00:09:19.95\00:09:21.41 because it's there, 00:09:21.44\00:09:22.82 it's offered to me, why not, you know. 00:09:22.85\00:09:25.38 And that's really was happening 00:09:25.41\00:09:26.51 and it really goes both ways 00:09:26.54\00:09:27.67 because of the standards 00:09:27.70\00:09:28.78 that we as men may be are lowering ourselves to 00:09:28.81\00:09:31.87 and the women are also doing the same thing. 00:09:31.90\00:09:33.78 I truly believe that men still can lead the household, 00:09:33.81\00:09:37.62 they can still lead by their actions. 00:09:37.65\00:09:41.35 It is all about placing value of oneself, 00:09:41.38\00:09:43.95 I remember when I was in Cincinnati, 00:09:43.98\00:09:46.60 when I used to be in Cincinnati, 00:09:46.63\00:09:48.22 I used to transferring your gifts stuff and, 00:09:48.25\00:09:50.06 you know, when you get something 00:09:50.09\00:09:51.16 you just eat and you just-- 00:09:51.19\00:09:52.42 you don't really have that kind of appreciation. 00:09:52.45\00:09:54.49 But when you have to set aside money to purchase something 00:09:54.52\00:09:57.30 and when you purchase that thing, 00:09:57.33\00:09:58.74 you're going to take care of that thing. 00:09:58.77\00:10:00.49 I just bought a car some years ago 00:10:00.52\00:10:02.39 I'm still paying on my car. 00:10:02.42\00:10:03.79 I'm taking care of my car. 00:10:03.82\00:10:05.50 But if it is just given to me 00:10:05.53\00:10:06.99 then I won't necessarily have that much of value of it. 00:10:07.02\00:10:09.59 So if a young lady comes and she starts give herself 00:10:09.62\00:10:12.49 and most of the ladies started to give themselves 00:10:12.52\00:10:14.58 then it makes easy for men 00:10:14.61\00:10:16.92 to not put the value on the woman 00:10:16.95\00:10:18.24 which is not God required for us. 00:10:18.27\00:10:20.21 He calls for us even die for the woman. 00:10:20.24\00:10:23.05 And if I just pick you back on that 00:10:23.08\00:10:24.60 I would say part of the reasons 00:10:24.63\00:10:26.03 why women are throwing themselves at guys 00:10:26.06\00:10:29.38 is because society has given us values 00:10:29.41\00:10:32.77 that are not necessarily biblical values 00:10:32.80\00:10:35.23 and so you have men who looking for superficial thing in women. 00:10:35.26\00:10:40.87 You know, like they are I guess hip to waist ratios, 00:10:40.90\00:10:46.33 you know, and wanting them to look like models 00:10:46.36\00:10:48.73 when the reality is that your average woman 00:10:48.76\00:10:51.85 does not look like your magazine model. 00:10:51.88\00:10:54.22 And so those are not thing that make 00:10:54.25\00:10:56.67 for valuable long lasting life long commitments in marriage 00:10:56.70\00:11:02.09 and those superficial standards 00:11:02.12\00:11:04.00 are what translates into your marriage statistics. 00:11:04.03\00:11:06.85 That's why you have one in two marriages failing. 00:11:06.88\00:11:10.50 And so when people look at these things 00:11:10.53\00:11:12.98 they are skeptical about getting into something 00:11:13.01\00:11:17.04 as sacred as a marriage commitment. 00:11:17.07\00:11:20.04 You know, or they translate 00:11:20.07\00:11:22.13 or they bring those superficial standards into marriage. 00:11:22.16\00:11:25.36 That's why you have things like prenups, 00:11:25.39\00:11:27.00 I mean, you know, in biblical times 00:11:27.03\00:11:30.14 they did not have things like prenups because you went-- 00:11:30.17\00:11:32.98 not even too long ago, 00:11:33.01\00:11:34.59 you know in the 50s and the 60s you never really had prenups 00:11:34.62\00:11:39.72 as prevalent as they are now. 00:11:39.75\00:11:43.31 And so, you know, you are going into your marriage, 00:11:43.34\00:11:46.66 something as sacred as marriage commitment, 00:11:46.69\00:11:48.83 having kind of like a back door 00:11:48.86\00:11:51.24 and you wonder why people are divorcing 00:11:51.27\00:11:54.15 left, right and centre. 00:11:54.18\00:11:55.38 You have people who're married for 72 days. 00:11:55.41\00:11:57.67 And you're wondering, you know, and you're wondering 00:11:57.70\00:12:00.41 why marriage is not treated with much respect. 00:12:00.44\00:12:04.15 Because what you said, actually look at the title 00:12:04.18\00:12:06.01 "Eenie, Meenie, Miney, Mo, Catch a Spouse by the Toe." 00:12:06.04\00:12:09.25 We have kind of catch a spouse like you! 00:12:09.28\00:12:13.14 And you know, and yeah, especially as women 00:12:13.17\00:12:15.52 sometimes we have ascribed to this idea 00:12:15.55\00:12:17.61 that you see a man he's a good man, 00:12:17.64\00:12:19.80 you got to grab him, club him and drag him 00:12:19.83\00:12:21.53 back to your lawyer and, 00:12:21.56\00:12:23.34 you know and try to get him to marry you as soon as possible 00:12:23.37\00:12:27.57 because he might be the last ship. 00:12:27.60\00:12:29.61 You know, you better hurry up and grab this one. 00:12:29.64\00:12:32.18 Because there might not be any good men left and so-- 00:12:32.21\00:12:35.08 I see you are in your 30s. 00:12:35.11\00:12:36.31 Yeah, and I'm 30, you know, what I mean? 00:12:36.34\00:12:41.16 Call out. Right, thank you for call out. 00:12:41.19\00:12:43.07 You know, but I really believe that 00:12:43.10\00:12:47.15 if we take time to allow God to bring us a mate if you notice, 00:12:47.18\00:12:53.53 Eve was brought to Adam. 00:12:53.56\00:12:55.94 Adam recognized his need for Eve first 00:12:55.97\00:12:59.46 and too often times we're trying to go into marriage 00:12:59.49\00:13:01.98 before we've had some maturity 00:13:02.01\00:13:04.17 where the man recognizes I need a wife. 00:13:04.20\00:13:06.60 When a man recognizes that he needs a woman in his life 00:13:06.63\00:13:10.01 to help make him, you know, 00:13:10.04\00:13:11.36 better then he is ready to embrace the marriage. 00:13:11.39\00:13:14.54 When a woman recognizes 00:13:14.57\00:13:15.90 that she was brought to that man 00:13:15.93\00:13:18.22 then there is not that tension of fighting, you know, 00:13:18.25\00:13:21.75 I have got to marry you. 00:13:21.78\00:13:22.87 She is trying to, you know, you better wife me, 00:13:22.90\00:13:24.99 if you like you better put a ring on it. 00:13:25.02\00:13:27.07 Well, I have got to say this, you know, 00:13:27.10\00:13:29.33 I hear what you're saying Ms. Kim, 00:13:29.36\00:13:31.42 but I just feel even though 00:13:31.45\00:13:33.41 the options are in our favor as men 00:13:33.44\00:13:35.82 I do think it is still hard to find a good woman. 00:13:35.85\00:13:39.48 Now you could argue that it's also hard to find a good man, 00:13:39.51\00:13:42.05 but I think it's hard to find a good woman. 00:13:42.08\00:13:45.47 Hold on, say my brothers, would agree with me? 00:13:45.50\00:13:48.48 No. Yes, I have too, you know-- 00:13:48.51\00:13:55.11 But the Bible says, 00:13:55.14\00:13:56.27 "He who findeth a wife fideth a good thing 00:13:56.30\00:13:58.58 and obtain the favor from the Lord," 00:13:58.61\00:14:00.33 that's in Proverbs. 00:14:00.36\00:14:02.67 I have to go with Kim. Kim actually made my point. 00:14:02.70\00:14:06.34 I think the way that we approach it 00:14:06.37\00:14:08.56 often is very humanistic. 00:14:08.59\00:14:10.90 You look in the Bible, the examples, 00:14:10.93\00:14:12.76 God brought Eve to Adam. You look at Isaac. 00:14:12.79\00:14:17.31 Isaac's wife was brought to him. 00:14:17.34\00:14:20.26 And then when you contrast those two examples with Samson. 00:14:20.29\00:14:26.21 Samson what did he tell his parents? 00:14:26.24\00:14:28.20 Get her for because she pleases me well 00:14:28.23\00:14:31.80 and of course it was probably, predominantly physical. 00:14:31.83\00:14:36.05 So Adam and Isaac they aligned their will 00:14:36.08\00:14:39.57 with Gods and Isaac of course, 00:14:39.60\00:14:42.66 his parents were-- his father was involved. 00:14:42.69\00:14:46.29 Samson went against his parents. 00:14:46.32\00:14:48.32 He said, I like her I'm going after her. 00:14:48.35\00:14:51.36 So I think part of the promise we are humanistic 00:14:51.39\00:14:54.63 in the way we approach relationships. 00:14:54.66\00:14:56.51 Okay. 00:14:56.54\00:14:57.59 And I think also to when you look at, 00:14:57.62\00:14:59.52 you know, Adam had a job, Adam had responsibilities. 00:14:59.55\00:15:01.90 Yes. Jacob I think he-- 00:15:01.93\00:15:04.58 Hallelujah. 00:15:04.61\00:15:05.70 Amen. Amen. 00:15:05.73\00:15:07.84 Jacob was-- I think Abraham sent one his servant to go-- 00:15:07.87\00:15:11.71 I think Jacob was doing some stuff. 00:15:11.74\00:15:13.29 Then, you know, his wife came. 00:15:13.32\00:15:15.99 Samson was suppose to be function as judge 00:15:16.02\00:15:19.78 and he is leaving where he supposed to be 00:15:19.81\00:15:21.87 not doing his job and going out. 00:15:21.90\00:15:24.34 And so too many times it's challenging even for us men, 00:15:24.37\00:15:28.06 we have find it so easy 00:15:28.09\00:15:29.44 not to be doing our responsibilities 00:15:29.47\00:15:31.86 and just going for a pleasure for a season 00:15:31.89\00:15:34.51 and it doesn't built up or boost anything 00:15:34.54\00:15:36.51 to making thing better. 00:15:36.54\00:15:37.80 So as result we're now trying to keep on finding 00:15:37.83\00:15:40.33 different dibs and dabs. 00:15:40.36\00:15:41.66 And ladies on the other side 00:15:41.69\00:15:44.12 even though the numbers are 80, 20 or 20, 80 and 30, 70 00:15:44.15\00:15:50.41 ladies it's so important to continue to show yourself 00:15:50.44\00:15:53.15 and your identity and the fact of this, 00:15:53.18\00:15:55.81 if every lady shows herself and don't try to give up 00:15:55.84\00:15:59.62 as some people say the goody bag 00:15:59.65\00:16:02.03 or whatever the cookie. 00:16:02.06\00:16:04.12 If they don't that then there'll be 00:16:04.15\00:16:06.45 nothing for men to try-- have to get or try to go get. 00:16:06.48\00:16:09.46 That goes both ways. It goes both ways. 00:16:09.49\00:16:11.33 As long as-- I'm sorry you just did 00:16:11.36\00:16:13.25 but I don't want to miss the point, 00:16:13.28\00:16:14.85 because this along the same lines Adam was asleep 00:16:14.88\00:16:20.24 when God brought Eve to him. 00:16:20.27\00:16:24.13 Same thing-- well, Isaac wasn't asleep 00:16:24.16\00:16:26.21 but he was in the field meditating. 00:16:26.24\00:16:28.48 So he was in communion with God 00:16:28.51\00:16:30.13 so he was as a word, dead to self. 00:16:30.16\00:16:33.78 And he had his eyes closed and he had his faith was in God 00:16:33.81\00:16:37.84 to bring that woman to him. 00:16:37.87\00:16:39.52 Okay. 00:16:39.55\00:16:40.67 Samson-- get her for me 00:16:40.70\00:16:42.89 because I see her and I like what I see. 00:16:42.92\00:16:46.04 And this is the result we have. 00:16:46.07\00:16:47.66 So we need to depend less on self and more on God. 00:16:47.69\00:16:52.12 Okay, and I want to-- 00:16:52.15\00:16:53.49 it's really very good where we are here, 00:16:53.52\00:16:55.05 but I would like to challenge you all to be practical now. 00:16:55.08\00:16:58.28 What can we really do-- now the girl had this dilemma. 00:16:58.31\00:17:01.31 What can she really do? 00:17:01.34\00:17:02.98 Ladies, what can she really do to attract a man? 00:17:03.01\00:17:06.58 And men, what could-- 00:17:06.61\00:17:07.93 can a men do to really attract or get the right woman? 00:17:07.96\00:17:12.40 What are the some things we can practically say, 00:17:12.43\00:17:14.21 some advice for individuals, even for ourselves. 00:17:14.24\00:17:17.06 Well, among the first thing is you need sit down 00:17:17.09\00:17:19.16 and decided what is that you want to attract. 00:17:19.19\00:17:21.47 Okay. 00:17:21.50\00:17:22.53 You have to decide what it is you-- 00:17:22.56\00:17:24.98 make a list a grocery list whatever kind of list you want. 00:17:25.01\00:17:29.71 Biblically based look in the word 00:17:29.74\00:17:31.65 for what the Bible presents as a godly man 00:17:31.68\00:17:36.08 and look for those kinds of examples, 00:17:36.11\00:17:38.03 and then give it to God 00:17:38.06\00:17:39.22 and be a batch of Father's business. 00:17:39.25\00:17:40.56 What you're saying is 00:17:40.59\00:17:41.64 you are looking at more emotional, 00:17:41.67\00:17:44.70 more personality traits, 00:17:44.73\00:17:46.46 more character traits not just a physical. 00:17:46.49\00:17:48.89 Right. Okay. 00:17:48.92\00:17:50.41 There is this example 00:17:50.44\00:17:51.71 where one of my friends was saying that, 00:17:51.74\00:17:53.60 you know, she really likes carrot cake. 00:17:53.63\00:17:56.66 Because it's good for your, its healthy, 00:17:56.69\00:17:58.54 it's got carrot and nuts and all these great things. 00:17:58.57\00:18:00.77 But it always looks crazy, kind of, you know. 00:18:00.80\00:18:04.45 And then there sheet cake which is nothing 00:18:04.48\00:18:06.38 but sugar and flour and flour. 00:18:06.41\00:18:08.54 But you can design it and it's so pretty 00:18:08.57\00:18:10.77 and it looks all great and it's kind of, 00:18:10.80\00:18:12.50 like where are the carrot sheet cakes. 00:18:12.53\00:18:15.65 With the character, the great qualities, 00:18:15.68\00:18:19.43 but they are attractive as well. 00:18:19.46\00:18:21.28 But I think if you look for the character Bible says, 00:18:21.31\00:18:24.71 you know, man looks at out but God looks at the heart. 00:18:24.74\00:18:26.91 If you find somebody with carrot cake character 00:18:26.94\00:18:30.46 then the outside becomes more attractive to you. 00:18:30.49\00:18:33.29 I don't know everybody can identify 00:18:33.32\00:18:34.58 with somebody who was fine. 00:18:34.61\00:18:36.68 But their personality was like man, 00:18:36.71\00:18:39.63 and eventually the more you got to know, 00:18:39.66\00:18:40.76 then you are like-- 00:18:40.79\00:18:41.90 I don't want anything to do with him. 00:18:41.93\00:18:42.96 So I will say look for the character 00:18:42.99\00:18:44.90 and then be a batch of Father's business. 00:18:44.93\00:18:46.64 If you look at the women in the Bible 00:18:46.67\00:18:49.39 they were about to be their Father's business. 00:18:49.42\00:18:50.95 So I want to say, 00:18:50.98\00:18:52.01 I want to say so even if they aren't fine 00:18:52.04\00:18:54.52 you still got to go for they are fine? 00:18:54.55\00:18:57.28 You know, I mean isn't that trick to play a part. 00:18:57.31\00:19:01.37 I mean, come on Brother Kean, come on have yourself. 00:19:01.40\00:19:03.29 I appreciate what Kim is saying what you are saying 00:19:03.32\00:19:06.44 but I disagree with having a list 00:19:06.47\00:19:10.32 and trying to attract somebody. 00:19:10.35\00:19:14.70 You will attract who you are. You focus on God. 00:19:14.73\00:19:19.22 Just like you said earlier we have to know God, 00:19:19.25\00:19:22.91 we can't know our selves before we know God. 00:19:22.94\00:19:25.36 First of all Adam recognized God. 00:19:25.39\00:19:28.10 God formed him breathed breath of life into him. 00:19:28.13\00:19:31.38 Adam opened his eyes first thing he saw was God, 00:19:31.41\00:19:34.57 then he knew who he was in relation to God. 00:19:34.60\00:19:37.64 Once you have that and you, 00:19:37.67\00:19:39.61 God begins to develop your character 00:19:39.64\00:19:41.60 you will attract people like yourself. 00:19:41.63\00:19:46.26 So it's not a matter of trying to attract, 00:19:46.29\00:19:49.57 it's organic, it's natural. 00:19:49.60\00:19:51.88 Okay. 00:19:51.91\00:19:52.98 And Nelson, as you said that's a good point too 00:19:53.01\00:19:54.95 and what I would also like to add with that 00:19:54.98\00:19:56.73 is that when Adam-- 00:19:56.76\00:19:59.22 now you said when he was awaken by God he saw God. 00:19:59.25\00:20:02.58 I also heard of, 00:20:02.61\00:20:04.33 pope has said that for women he said 00:20:04.36\00:20:07.72 "grow so close unto God that when a man finds you 00:20:07.75\00:20:12.07 its like he is finding a God, revealed through you." 00:20:12.10\00:20:15.08 And so when Adam woke up after God says 00:20:15.11\00:20:18.53 it's not good for man to be alone and after Adam, 00:20:18.56\00:20:20.50 you know, named the animals and he put them to rest 00:20:20.53\00:20:23.04 and he took a blade of rib and Eve comes to him. 00:20:23.07\00:20:25.33 When he woke up the next thing 00:20:25.36\00:20:26.40 he saw was revelation through Eve. 00:20:26.43\00:20:28.25 And so now it's like that. 00:20:28.28\00:20:30.83 So ladies you continue to grow into God and men, 00:20:30.86\00:20:33.97 we have to grow into God as well. 00:20:34.00\00:20:35.44 So when it comes down to what marriage is 00:20:35.47\00:20:37.42 it's a function of God, husband and wife or man, 00:20:37.45\00:20:39.82 woman they become married 00:20:39.85\00:20:40.90 and they continue to grow closer to God 00:20:40.93\00:20:42.36 as they closer to each other. 00:20:42.39\00:20:44.14 And I would just like to add on to that 00:20:44.17\00:20:45.79 and just make it even more practical. 00:20:45.82\00:20:47.46 I would say for the young lady keep-- 00:20:47.49\00:20:50.75 find out how deeply rooted you are in God. 00:20:50.78\00:20:54.64 Because it's easy for, it's easy for us 00:20:54.67\00:20:57.85 especially as women to be so caught up 00:20:57.88\00:20:59.64 in the idea of being in a relationship. 00:20:59.67\00:21:02.14 We get to the point of we are in love with love. 00:21:02.17\00:21:05.74 And so, we are not necessarily looking for people 00:21:05.77\00:21:08.91 who will complement us in our relationship with God. 00:21:08.94\00:21:13.99 We just looking for someone to feel this void in our lives, 00:21:14.02\00:21:18.21 because we are created for relationship. 00:21:18.24\00:21:20.15 We are created by God, who is love 00:21:20.18\00:21:22.34 and by extension we crave that love. 00:21:22.37\00:21:25.32 And so I would tell her and for anybody else, 00:21:25.35\00:21:29.53 is figure out how your relationship with God is. 00:21:29.56\00:21:33.22 Let God be the fulfilling factor in your life. 00:21:33.25\00:21:36.81 And then once you have the down pack 00:21:36.84\00:21:39.78 then you can be able to say okay Lord, 00:21:39.81\00:21:42.80 me and You have that great relationship. 00:21:42.83\00:21:46.30 How about you feeling this other part of me 00:21:46.33\00:21:49.12 that is lacking, you know? 00:21:49.15\00:21:51.48 You're saying that a relationship 00:21:51.51\00:21:53.85 actually be an idol wanting to be 00:21:53.88\00:21:56.26 and the relationship could overshadow God. 00:21:56.29\00:21:59.59 Oh, it definitely because I know, 00:21:59.62\00:22:01.15 I know personally from my experience 00:22:01.18\00:22:03.41 is that there was a time when I would-- 00:22:03.44\00:22:07.15 it's like you think you have it right with God. 00:22:07.18\00:22:10.39 But as soon as somebody comes into your life 00:22:10.42\00:22:12.43 somehow you value spending time more with that person 00:22:12.46\00:22:17.41 than you do with the God that gave you that person. 00:22:17.44\00:22:20.29 And so, in that essence-- in that time, 00:22:20.32\00:22:24.46 you know that person does become an idol 00:22:24.49\00:22:26.51 and it's not until, you know, you recognize hey, 00:22:26.54\00:22:29.40 God has to take first place in my life 00:22:29.43\00:22:32.83 to the point where nothing else can tamper with that, 00:22:32.86\00:22:36.91 you know then I would say that is the time 00:22:36.94\00:22:39.19 when you're ready for a relationship. 00:22:39.22\00:22:41.63 When you are so grounded in God that nothing, 00:22:41.66\00:22:45.25 not a job, not a person, 00:22:45.28\00:22:46.84 not anything can come between you and your relationship 00:22:46.87\00:22:49.92 that would be the time I would say that you-- 00:22:49.95\00:22:51.97 And I want to say this and I appreciate what you said, 00:22:52.00\00:22:54.50 you know, but I'm thinking 00:22:54.53\00:22:55.59 about this whole relationship thing 00:22:55.62\00:22:57.34 and thinking about trying to find 00:22:57.37\00:22:58.72 or trying to wait for someone to come everyone say, 00:22:58.75\00:23:01.71 isn't it that fear that you're gonna have to settle? 00:23:01.74\00:23:05.24 You know, to settle for-- 00:23:05.27\00:23:07.41 which is because the statistics are, 00:23:07.44\00:23:08.78 you know, and may be God brought him to me 00:23:08.81\00:23:10.48 may be He didn't but maybe 00:23:10.51\00:23:11.54 just because someone came to me that I just, 00:23:11.57\00:23:13.65 you know, I got to just take, 00:23:13.68\00:23:15.13 take advantage of it because I'm right there, you know. 00:23:15.16\00:23:16.74 How you keep from settling? How do you define settling? 00:23:16.77\00:23:19.28 Well, I mean settling could be this was not my ideal 00:23:19.31\00:23:23.11 but I'm going to go ahead. 00:23:23.14\00:23:25.24 Again, I think that's, 00:23:25.27\00:23:27.43 the conventional humanistic way. 00:23:27.46\00:23:32.00 Any guy comes along, you know, 00:23:32.03\00:23:33.52 I take him because he might be the last one. 00:23:33.55\00:23:36.01 That's the confidence in what I can see what my-- 00:23:36.04\00:23:39.66 I can see around me my ability to attract 00:23:39.69\00:23:43.18 and to keep a man. 00:23:43.21\00:23:44.69 When you, what it is a shift from self to God, 00:23:44.72\00:23:49.13 there is no settling. 00:23:49.16\00:23:51.28 There is not even, you know, 00:23:51.31\00:23:52.78 you even lose the need to tell God what you need 00:23:52.81\00:23:56.15 because you know that God wants for you 00:23:56.18\00:23:59.17 what's best for you. 00:23:59.20\00:24:01.45 And even what better than what you want for yourself. 00:24:01.48\00:24:04.34 So you God-- you would understand God-- 00:24:04.37\00:24:06.49 you created me for relationships 00:24:06.52\00:24:08.52 and I know that You will fulfill this in Your time. 00:24:08.55\00:24:13.61 So I think that kind of-- 00:24:13.64\00:24:15.74 Okay but-- okay, that was good but I mean... 00:24:15.77\00:24:17.76 You know... 00:24:17.79\00:24:18.82 No that's good. It's good. 00:24:18.85\00:24:20.13 I just want to challenge you more because, 00:24:20.16\00:24:21.37 I mean, now I'm sitting here 00:24:21.40\00:24:22.54 and saying I want to find someone okay 00:24:22.57\00:24:24.57 and I'm going to wait for God, 00:24:24.60\00:24:26.35 but how do I really find the right one. 00:24:26.38\00:24:29.23 How do I, how do I-- you know, 00:24:29.26\00:24:30.83 because I could think that because this person is decent 00:24:30.86\00:24:34.03 that God has brought him into my life. 00:24:34.06\00:24:35.64 But how I really find the right one? 00:24:35.67\00:24:37.85 What are some things that we could do? 00:24:37.88\00:24:39.98 Well, one of the things that I would ask, is, 00:24:40.01\00:24:42.78 are you constantly keeping yourself in communion with God? 00:24:42.81\00:24:45.71 Because one thing that Bible has consistently shown us 00:24:45.74\00:24:47.76 is that God is in constant communion with us. 00:24:47.79\00:24:51.30 He is willing. He wants the best for us. 00:24:51.33\00:24:53.43 He's always willing to lead and guide 00:24:53.46\00:24:55.59 and so even and more so in a decision 00:24:55.62\00:24:59.22 that is as important as marriage 00:24:59.25\00:25:01.59 God designed for marriage to be life long. 00:25:01.62\00:25:04.16 And so, to imagine that you have 00:25:04.19\00:25:06.09 the rest of your days in front of you 00:25:06.12\00:25:09.07 God wants to be a part of that decision 00:25:09.10\00:25:10.79 and He will guide to the right person, 00:25:10.82\00:25:13.41 if you're willing to listen to, to what He has to say 00:25:13.44\00:25:17.07 and to surrender your will, you know, for His. 00:25:17.10\00:25:21.01 And what I think so great about suppose your will, 00:25:21.04\00:25:22.99 you know, the Bible talks about we commit our way to God. 00:25:23.02\00:25:26.24 He will give us the desires of our heart. 00:25:26.27\00:25:28.85 But the first part is committing our way, 00:25:28.88\00:25:30.73 giving ourselves to God and we become like God. 00:25:30.76\00:25:33.79 So, our desires become His desires 00:25:33.82\00:25:36.79 and His desires for us become our desires. 00:25:36.82\00:25:38.93 So as we get to know someone else 00:25:38.96\00:25:41.55 we desire what He wants. 00:25:41.58\00:25:43.43 So we are then allowed to come together 00:25:43.46\00:25:46.57 with not catch but meet, engage, 00:25:46.60\00:25:50.12 get to know the person that God has for our life 00:25:50.15\00:25:53.24 and I think that has to do 00:25:53.27\00:25:54.79 also with some self introspection, 00:25:54.82\00:25:56.56 examining your relationship, your parent's relationships, 00:25:56.59\00:25:59.67 looking at some of those different things 00:25:59.70\00:26:02.11 maybe they didn't do so well, 00:26:02.14\00:26:03.53 looking at the things that they did really well, 00:26:03.56\00:26:05.38 looking at what are you normally attracted to 00:26:05.41\00:26:08.02 are those healthy qualities, are those good qualities. 00:26:08.05\00:26:11.01 And really thinking, doing some self inspection 00:26:11.04\00:26:13.82 and that combined with getting our desires 00:26:13.85\00:26:17.04 align with God's desires 00:26:17.07\00:26:18.91 will help you find the right person. 00:26:18.94\00:26:20.08 It's not just jumping forward, getting wherever you want. 00:26:20.11\00:26:22.50 Like just where they come in front of you just like, 00:26:22.53\00:26:24.87 you got to actually think about this thing. 00:26:24.90\00:26:26.54 And if want to get the out come 00:26:26.57\00:26:27.67 that you want you got to really think about it, okay. 00:26:27.70\00:26:29.61 We use this scripture so many times 00:26:29.64\00:26:32.29 and in sad situations a lot of times as a pastor 00:26:32.32\00:26:34.55 people use and read it during funerals 00:26:34.58\00:26:37.39 but when we look at Palms 23 it says that 00:26:37.42\00:26:39.96 the "Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not be in want." 00:26:39.99\00:26:42.33 And if we just come to the perspective of God 00:26:42.36\00:26:45.07 being a Shepherd, 00:26:45.10\00:26:46.30 as when I was little boy I used to even my dad, 00:26:46.33\00:26:49.30 you know, I be with my dad and you know my dad, 00:26:49.33\00:26:51.18 I'm taller to my dad now 00:26:51.21\00:26:52.35 but when I was little boy, my dad was like, 00:26:52.38\00:26:54.72 the tallest man in the world. 00:26:54.75\00:26:56.35 And everything he did, I replicated, 00:26:56.38\00:26:58.59 I tried to follow all the things he did. 00:26:58.62\00:27:01.89 So with those the situations, 00:27:01.92\00:27:04.29 I used to follow him and just trust my dad and if, 00:27:04.32\00:27:07.89 because my dad was like a shepherd. 00:27:07.92\00:27:10.24 In our situation we just have to look at God 00:27:10.27\00:27:12.66 and trust Him as we could to be in God 00:27:12.69\00:27:15.73 to know that He is a Shepherd. 00:27:15.76\00:27:16.83 And since we know that He is a Shepherd 00:27:16.86\00:27:17.93 and He is gonna lead us to the right place 00:27:17.96\00:27:19.51 that we don't have to worry. 00:27:19.54\00:27:20.57 We don't have to worry 00:27:20.60\00:27:21.67 because we know that God will supply all our needs 00:27:21.70\00:27:23.28 according to His riches and glory. 00:27:23.31\00:27:24.74 That's beautiful. 00:27:24.77\00:27:25.83 We are gonna wrap it up with that. 00:27:25.86\00:27:27.13 Bible does say, 00:27:27.16\00:27:28.38 "Whosoever findeth a wife findeth a good thing, 00:27:28.41\00:27:32.04 and obtaineth favor of the Lord" 00:27:32.07\00:27:34.19 and I think we can add husbands in there as well. 00:27:34.22\00:27:36.37 The reality is that God wants you to find favor with Him 00:27:36.40\00:27:39.52 and He has someone specially designed just for you. 00:27:39.55\00:27:42.75 And so remember, despite all the difficulties, 00:27:42.78\00:27:45.06 despite all the mess 00:27:45.09\00:27:46.39 that's going on in your life with the things, 00:27:46.42\00:27:47.94 its hard for you to find someone, 00:27:47.97\00:27:49.17 know that God has someone for you. 00:27:49.20\00:27:50.96 So that's our program for today. 00:27:50.99\00:27:52.14 Just you remember to make pure choices. 00:27:52.17\00:27:54.93