The following program discusses sensitive issues. 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.57 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:00:03.60\00:00:05.40 may be too candid for younger children. 00:00:05.43\00:00:07.44 Hello and welcome to Pure Choices. 00:00:41.34\00:00:43.74 I'm your host Pastor Joshua Nelson. 00:00:43.77\00:00:45.54 And I'm just so excited 00:00:45.57\00:00:46.91 that you decided to join us today. 00:00:46.94\00:00:48.38 We have an exciting program for you today. 00:00:48.41\00:00:51.11 We have a group from, all the way from Miami, Florida 00:00:51.15\00:00:54.32 called Pure Reality, 00:00:54.35\00:00:55.68 not to be confused with Pure Choices, 00:00:55.72\00:00:57.49 and they are wearing their nice shirts. 00:00:57.52\00:01:01.52 I tried to match them today 00:01:01.56\00:01:02.89 but I don't got the logo on mine 00:01:02.92\00:01:04.26 but so happy to have you all here today on the set 00:01:04.29\00:01:07.00 and just want to hear a little bit 00:01:07.03\00:01:10.57 about Pure Choices, Pure Reality, excuse me. 00:01:10.60\00:01:12.70 Pure Reality is a program in Miami 00:01:12.73\00:01:16.40 that talks about purity. 00:01:16.44\00:01:18.51 And so we're excited to have you here today. 00:01:18.54\00:01:22.38 Maybe just start and tell me a little bit 00:01:22.41\00:01:23.91 about your journeys and how you got here? 00:01:23.95\00:01:26.35 And why this is a passion for you to talk about purity? 00:01:26.38\00:01:30.45 Well, my name is Donnakaye 00:01:30.49\00:01:31.95 and when I look at some of our experiences in life, 00:01:31.99\00:01:36.73 we all come up with labels. 00:01:36.76\00:01:38.23 There are just certain labels that are put on us 00:01:38.26\00:01:40.26 just based on what we've been through. 00:01:40.30\00:01:42.90 And for me as a single parent starting with that, 00:01:42.93\00:01:47.37 I just think about the journey that I've come through 00:01:47.40\00:01:50.67 from the things that have happened to me personally 00:01:50.71\00:01:53.38 and as being a Christian and reconciling 00:01:53.41\00:01:55.91 that God loves me from being a product of rape 00:01:55.94\00:01:59.71 to molestation, incest, just my own choices that I made 00:01:59.75\00:02:05.85 because of that and looking up 00:02:05.89\00:02:07.46 and trying to say, "God, where are you?" 00:02:07.49\00:02:10.33 And when finding out that God loves me, 00:02:10.36\00:02:13.63 He loves me just as I am 00:02:13.66\00:02:15.10 and that He can take everything. 00:02:15.13\00:02:17.07 The some of all those experiences, 00:02:17.10\00:02:18.80 all the labels that tried to hold me down 00:02:18.83\00:02:21.20 that he could take those things 00:02:21.24\00:02:22.94 and decide that, "You know what? 00:02:22.97\00:02:24.87 Through you, I'm going to answer 00:02:24.91\00:02:26.98 the desire of your heart 00:02:27.01\00:02:28.34 and that is that other young people 00:02:28.38\00:02:29.88 can be enlightened and empowered 00:02:29.91\00:02:31.25 from very young age. 00:02:31.28\00:02:32.61 So that they can understand that no matter what happens, 00:02:32.65\00:02:35.48 I am God and I can make something beautiful from it." 00:02:35.52\00:02:37.92 Amen. Amen. Powerful. 00:02:37.95\00:02:41.26 Someone else wanna share? 00:02:41.29\00:02:43.06 Miss. Dominique? 00:02:43.09\00:02:45.16 Yes, my name is Dominique, 00:02:45.19\00:02:47.16 and my story is a little bit different, 00:02:47.20\00:02:53.17 and a little bit similar. 00:02:53.20\00:02:54.94 So I did experience some molestation as a child. 00:02:54.97\00:03:00.28 My parents are divorced and at a very young age 00:03:00.31\00:03:03.61 they were separated, 00:03:03.65\00:03:05.51 so I grew up with my mother, mostly. 00:03:05.55\00:03:09.72 And so many things happened in my childhood 00:03:09.75\00:03:12.79 that really collide my experience. 00:03:12.82\00:03:14.89 So when I had my own children, 00:03:14.92\00:03:16.29 I got married and I had my children, 00:03:16.32\00:03:19.29 I was very fearful that what happened to me 00:03:19.33\00:03:22.90 would happen with them. 00:03:22.93\00:03:24.50 So at a very young age it was my duty to teach them 00:03:24.53\00:03:29.37 and empower them without exposing them 00:03:29.40\00:03:34.24 to withstand the lure of what is gold 00:03:34.28\00:03:38.91 and because it glitters. 00:03:38.95\00:03:40.68 Yeah. 00:03:40.72\00:03:42.05 And therefore, I found myself needing to speak to them 00:03:42.08\00:03:47.82 from the get-go about the true nature of sex, 00:03:47.86\00:03:51.59 the true nature of purity. 00:03:51.63\00:03:53.26 What it is that God expects from them? 00:03:53.29\00:03:55.86 And even in their decision making process 00:03:55.90\00:03:59.33 to make sure that they knew, what was the expectation 00:03:59.37\00:04:03.61 on their lives and what their purpose was. 00:04:03.64\00:04:06.01 So Pure Reality for us is a way to redirect children 00:04:06.04\00:04:10.71 that have not found that purpose 00:04:10.75\00:04:12.48 or don't know what God intends for their lives 00:04:12.51\00:04:15.65 and to give them a way to go. 00:04:15.68\00:04:18.05 Okay. That's beautiful. Lauldi? 00:04:18.09\00:04:20.59 Hi, my name is Lauldi, 00:04:20.62\00:04:22.06 and I grew up in a two-parent household, 00:04:22.09\00:04:25.73 parents are still married today. 00:04:25.76\00:04:27.63 And I believe that I represent the face 00:04:27.66\00:04:30.07 that most of us as Adventists 00:04:30.10\00:04:32.73 or people in society would want 00:04:32.77\00:04:35.94 as far as a household having two-parent household, 00:04:35.97\00:04:39.37 growing up the kids, 00:04:39.41\00:04:40.74 a Christian type of environment. 00:04:40.78\00:04:43.01 I really do believe despite having that, 00:04:43.04\00:04:47.72 I think my parents tried the best 00:04:47.75\00:04:49.08 that possible way to raise us as children. 00:04:49.12\00:04:51.79 But the one thing I would actually say 00:04:51.82\00:04:53.56 is the fact that they weren't open enough, 00:04:53.59\00:04:56.16 open enough to really dialogue about the issues and sexuality. 00:04:56.19\00:05:01.26 You know, we were told and I joke about this 00:05:01.30\00:05:04.17 with the girls all the time about, 00:05:04.20\00:05:05.53 you know, being a young lady and growing up 00:05:05.57\00:05:08.27 and no embarrassment to my mom. 00:05:08.30\00:05:10.84 But, you know, as a young lady, you know, 00:05:10.87\00:05:15.18 going through your menstrual period 00:05:15.21\00:05:16.78 and having that dialogue with your parent. 00:05:16.81\00:05:19.95 You would think they would sit down 00:05:19.98\00:05:21.32 and really talk to you about, you know, 00:05:21.35\00:05:23.59 sexuality and everything else. 00:05:23.62\00:05:25.69 And at that particular point in time, I mean, 00:05:25.72\00:05:27.92 it was something very, very basic. 00:05:27.96\00:05:30.73 You know, now is the times that you don't, 00:05:30.76\00:05:32.99 you know, talk to boys. 00:05:33.03\00:05:34.50 You know, you don't let a boy touch you. 00:05:34.53\00:05:36.00 And being so naive and silly, you know, you're like, 00:05:36.03\00:05:38.17 "Okay, you know what? 00:05:38.20\00:05:39.53 During that period time I can't talk to boys." 00:05:39.57\00:05:41.10 You know, as if osmosis was gonna occur. 00:05:41.14\00:05:43.91 But you know what? 00:05:43.94\00:05:45.81 I think that is so important 00:05:45.84\00:05:47.51 and one of the things that I've realized 00:05:47.54\00:05:49.24 is the fact that a lot of us as parents, 00:05:49.28\00:05:51.18 a lot of our parents do not talk to their kids. 00:05:51.21\00:05:53.88 And I really do believe 00:05:53.92\00:05:55.25 that as parents that's a major responsibility 00:05:55.28\00:05:57.12 that we hold as far as empowering our children 00:05:57.15\00:05:59.89 with the key tools on how to prevent situations 00:05:59.92\00:06:05.76 as it relates to the opposite sex. 00:06:05.79\00:06:07.40 So for me that's my critical emphasis 00:06:07.43\00:06:12.03 or passion as to the importance of parents 00:06:12.07\00:06:15.34 really dialoguing with their children. 00:06:15.37\00:06:17.67 Okay. 00:06:17.71\00:06:19.04 And I really appreciate your sharing, 00:06:19.07\00:06:20.41 you know, part of your story. 00:06:20.44\00:06:21.91 And I do want to just touch on what you just said 00:06:21.94\00:06:23.55 before we kind of go into a little more 00:06:23.58\00:06:25.01 about your ministry and Pure Reality. 00:06:25.05\00:06:28.18 When you just talked about how many parents 00:06:28.22\00:06:30.49 sometimes it's hard for them maybe to discuss these things 00:06:30.52\00:06:33.89 with their kid, why is that? 00:06:33.92\00:06:35.26 You know, why is that? Any one wanna just share it? 00:06:35.29\00:06:36.76 Why do you think that is, that it's just so hard 00:06:36.79\00:06:39.19 for that to be discussed? 00:06:39.23\00:06:40.56 Because the world had made sex something 00:06:40.60\00:06:44.67 that is nasty and dirty, 00:06:44.70\00:06:46.50 even though it's something that is beautiful 00:06:46.53\00:06:48.27 that God has created. 00:06:48.30\00:06:49.94 And when sex happens within the confines of marriage 00:06:49.97\00:06:53.24 as God intended it to be, it's a beautiful thing. 00:06:53.27\00:06:56.38 But because everything God does has a counterfeit. 00:06:56.41\00:07:00.32 The devil has created this illusion 00:07:00.35\00:07:02.45 that sex is dirty and should be hidden, 00:07:02.48\00:07:05.69 and so parents developed the shame 00:07:05.72\00:07:08.56 about talking to their children about sex. 00:07:08.59\00:07:11.39 Furthermore, nobody wants their children to know 00:07:11.43\00:07:14.70 their own deficiencies. 00:07:14.73\00:07:16.50 So as parents we're afraid for them 00:07:16.53\00:07:19.63 to see the transparency in us 00:07:19.67\00:07:21.20 and our vulnerability and where we've been. 00:07:21.24\00:07:24.21 So we hide it and cover it 00:07:24.24\00:07:25.81 and in order not to expose ourselves 00:07:25.84\00:07:28.21 and confront our own issues, 00:07:28.24\00:07:30.15 then we shield our children completely from the topic. 00:07:30.18\00:07:33.58 Right. 00:07:33.62\00:07:34.95 And, Donnakaye, I think you'd mentioned something 00:07:34.98\00:07:36.32 about this when we were talking before on just about, you know, 00:07:36.35\00:07:39.42 hiding things or, you know, 00:07:39.45\00:07:42.16 why do we feel a need to do that? 00:07:42.19\00:07:45.43 People feel a need to hide 00:07:45.46\00:07:48.23 because they don't understand 00:07:48.26\00:07:50.30 the full scope of what they're dealing with. 00:07:50.33\00:07:54.24 There is not a deeper understanding, 00:07:54.27\00:07:56.00 there's pain, there's hurt, 00:07:56.04\00:07:57.71 there are issues and so therefore, 00:07:57.74\00:07:59.84 basically we tend to cover up. 00:07:59.87\00:08:01.34 It goes back to the garden, you know, Adam and Eve, 00:08:01.38\00:08:04.91 when Eve bought the fruit and they bit that fruit, 00:08:04.95\00:08:08.68 automatically their eyes were opened 00:08:08.72\00:08:11.15 and they felt this need, 00:08:11.19\00:08:13.25 you know, to cover up. 00:08:13.29\00:08:14.66 And so it's a natural thing that comes because of sin, 00:08:14.69\00:08:19.33 and when you look at the family, 00:08:19.36\00:08:21.96 this is where the church starts. 00:08:22.00\00:08:23.73 And if in the family things are being covered up, 00:08:23.77\00:08:26.07 and they're hidden, then the church as a whole 00:08:26.10\00:08:28.27 cannot confront what it cannot deal with. 00:08:28.30\00:08:31.07 And things that are covered, 00:08:31.11\00:08:32.44 they don't heal well and so therefore, 00:08:32.47\00:08:34.01 we tend to go ahead and hide 00:08:34.04\00:08:36.41 because it's the natural inclination 00:08:36.44\00:08:38.11 that is within us 00:08:38.15\00:08:39.48 forgetting that as Christians we are empowered 00:08:39.51\00:08:41.42 by the power of the Holy Spirit, 00:08:41.45\00:08:43.22 to call sin by its right name, 00:08:43.25\00:08:45.52 and to fight a spiritual warfare 00:08:45.55\00:08:47.59 that we can tear down whatever stronghold. 00:08:47.62\00:08:50.76 Amen. And that's so true. 00:08:50.79\00:08:52.99 We wanna talk a little more about that 00:08:53.03\00:08:54.36 before we go into that, I want to really just talk 00:08:54.40\00:08:57.50 about what is Pure Reality? 00:08:57.53\00:08:58.87 You know, what is the ministry that you all have, 00:08:58.90\00:09:01.87 you know, presented to us? 00:09:01.90\00:09:03.24 And really how did it start? You know, what was it really? 00:09:03.27\00:09:06.21 You got to tell me a little story about, 00:09:06.24\00:09:07.58 kind of, how it started? 00:09:07.61\00:09:08.94 And why you felt a passion to talk about this subject? 00:09:08.98\00:09:11.61 So who wants to share? 00:09:11.65\00:09:12.98 Lauldi, you're smiling, you wanna share? 00:09:13.01\00:09:14.35 Okay. Go ahead. 00:09:14.38\00:09:15.72 Well, we started about 10 years ago 00:09:15.75\00:09:18.85 and the emphasis with Pure Reality 00:09:18.89\00:09:22.86 is really dealing with issues of sexual immorality 00:09:22.89\00:09:25.83 and teaching purity as a lifestyle. 00:09:25.86\00:09:28.73 That's the basis. 00:09:28.76\00:09:30.10 And we actually cater to the ages of 12 to 24. 00:09:30.13\00:09:34.50 I believe that God led these powerful women here 00:09:34.54\00:09:38.41 next to me together really, we come with different phases. 00:09:38.44\00:09:41.54 We represent different aspects of the family. 00:09:41.58\00:09:45.38 And I think what makes us different 00:09:45.41\00:09:47.45 is the fact that we are parents. 00:09:47.48\00:09:49.72 We have our love for our children 00:09:49.75\00:09:51.29 and we want to be able to deal with the issues 00:09:51.32\00:09:54.42 that we ourselves probably didn't have 00:09:54.46\00:09:56.93 and be able to empower our children to be better. 00:09:56.96\00:09:59.29 So at the time we both, we all actually had teenagers. 00:09:59.33\00:10:03.57 I think my older daughter was probably about 14 00:10:03.60\00:10:06.33 and probably making 15 at the time. 00:10:06.37\00:10:08.50 And, you know, there was just some big need 00:10:08.54\00:10:12.51 I believe for addressing that issue. 00:10:12.54\00:10:15.24 Now you're having teenagers and thinking about boys 00:10:15.28\00:10:18.05 and it's like, wow, holy book. 00:10:18.08\00:10:20.02 So you were just afraid, 00:10:20.05\00:10:21.38 you don't want them to get involved 00:10:21.42\00:10:22.75 with some of the boys you saw in there. 00:10:22.78\00:10:24.12 You know, seriously, 00:10:24.15\00:10:25.49 I was not ready as a parent to like, 00:10:25.52\00:10:27.09 see my kids starting to think about dating at all. 00:10:27.12\00:10:30.03 And that scared me and then, of course, of the fact that, 00:10:30.06\00:10:32.83 you know, HIV, AIDS and all these different issues 00:10:32.86\00:10:36.26 as it relates to sexual, you know, deviant behavior 00:10:36.30\00:10:41.24 that my kids could be exposed to those type of things. 00:10:41.27\00:10:43.34 So for me that was a big, big issue 00:10:43.37\00:10:45.37 and I remember distinctly 00:10:45.41\00:10:47.14 and I was sharing this with these ladies earlier. 00:10:47.18\00:10:50.85 Back then, I remember there was a school 00:10:50.88\00:10:53.11 that was very close to our church 00:10:53.15\00:10:56.12 and they had these high statistics 00:10:56.15\00:10:57.99 of over 67% of the graduating class 00:10:58.02\00:11:00.86 had HIV and that scared me to death. 00:11:00.89\00:11:03.59 Sure. 00:11:03.63\00:11:04.96 I was like, "Wow, my child is a teenager, 00:11:04.99\00:11:07.13 what are the chances of her interacting 00:11:07.16\00:11:10.23 or meeting one of these kids from the school 00:11:10.27\00:11:12.57 and possibly even dating them? 00:11:12.60\00:11:14.10 And when I felt that as a parent 00:11:14.14\00:11:16.04 it was extremely important at that time 00:11:16.07\00:11:18.31 to actually address the issues, 00:11:18.34\00:11:19.87 make our kids be more aware of dating, 00:11:19.91\00:11:22.74 and all of the issues as it relates to purity. 00:11:22.78\00:11:26.45 So you say we got to do something. 00:11:26.48\00:11:27.82 We got to address this. We got to do something. 00:11:27.85\00:11:29.28 Hey, let's just move on this. 00:11:29.32\00:11:30.95 Let's start talking and dialoging. 00:11:30.99\00:11:32.32 So you all were talking together? Okay. 00:11:32.35\00:11:33.69 And funny enough I would say 00:11:33.72\00:11:35.49 that our friendship really wasn't a deep friendship, 00:11:35.52\00:11:39.39 we knew each other from church, 00:11:39.43\00:11:42.53 but I believe in interacting and talking 00:11:42.56\00:11:46.23 we started clicking really. 00:11:46.27\00:11:48.30 And I really do believe 00:11:48.34\00:11:50.01 that God really led 00:11:50.04\00:11:51.81 the three of us together with our stories 00:11:51.84\00:11:54.84 and seeing the world from a different perspective. 00:11:54.88\00:11:58.85 And to be totally honest with you, 00:11:58.88\00:12:00.75 I remember as we got together to really pursue this 00:12:00.78\00:12:05.42 and go before the church as to, 00:12:05.45\00:12:07.26 "Hey, we need to start something." 00:12:07.29\00:12:10.06 We got a lot of pushback. 00:12:10.09\00:12:11.43 Yeah. We got a lot of pushback. 00:12:11.46\00:12:13.90 We didn't get a lot of buy in. 00:12:13.93\00:12:16.10 As a matter of fact as we sat to really dialogue 00:12:16.13\00:12:18.43 about what this would look like. 00:12:18.47\00:12:20.84 Our initial intent was to really pursue... 00:12:20.87\00:12:23.81 The girls. A girl's, a girl's emphasis. 00:12:23.84\00:12:27.14 And as we dialogue more we realized that, 00:12:27.18\00:12:29.41 "Hey, you know what? 00:12:29.44\00:12:30.78 We're gonna be teaching these girls. 00:12:30.81\00:12:32.15 What we need to be teaching them 00:12:32.18\00:12:33.75 and they're coming back with the same boys. 00:12:33.78\00:12:35.12 Right. Right. 00:12:35.15\00:12:36.48 So we're like, "Hey, we got to do something." 00:12:36.52\00:12:37.85 So we actually got together and decided, 00:12:37.89\00:12:39.65 "Hey, we gonna definitely put together a ministry 00:12:39.69\00:12:42.39 or retreat for girls and boys. 00:12:42.42\00:12:44.46 Okay. And... 00:12:44.49\00:12:45.89 So talk about that pushback a little bit. 00:12:45.93\00:12:48.83 You know, what was kind of the reasons 00:12:48.86\00:12:50.50 why maybe people didn't like the idea 00:12:50.53\00:12:53.13 that you all were coming together 00:12:53.17\00:12:54.50 and wanted to talk about the subject. 00:12:54.54\00:12:56.40 Sex in church is taboo. Okay. 00:12:56.44\00:12:58.97 You don't talk about sex from the pulpit. 00:12:59.01\00:13:01.61 And 10 years ago, 00:13:01.64\00:13:03.11 you didn't even mention anything sexual at all 00:13:03.14\00:13:06.41 and it was scary for people. 00:13:06.45\00:13:09.48 And so again the exposure and the transparency 00:13:09.52\00:13:13.32 that has to come through, people were very shy about it. 00:13:13.36\00:13:18.03 They didn't want their children, 00:13:18.06\00:13:19.39 they thought their children were not exposed 00:13:19.43\00:13:21.46 to this kind of behavior. 00:13:21.50\00:13:23.73 When children everywhere watch television, 00:13:23.77\00:13:26.90 listen to music, 00:13:26.94\00:13:28.50 and even just from the lyrics of today's music 00:13:28.54\00:13:32.24 can have a whole curriculum about sexual behavior. 00:13:32.27\00:13:36.28 Right. You don't need to see anything. 00:13:36.31\00:13:38.71 On top of it, 00:13:38.75\00:13:40.08 we have encountered a lot of parents 00:13:40.12\00:13:41.72 who do not talk to their children about sex, 00:13:41.75\00:13:44.29 and who do not expose their children 00:13:44.32\00:13:46.49 to what real intimacy is in the home. 00:13:46.52\00:13:50.66 I have met young men who are in their 20's, 00:13:50.69\00:13:53.19 who have never seen their parents 00:13:53.23\00:13:55.33 have an embracing moment. 00:13:55.36\00:13:59.03 And so there was a deficiency in the church body 00:13:59.07\00:14:04.37 related to intimacy, relationship, sex 00:14:04.41\00:14:08.44 and so people did not want 00:14:08.48\00:14:11.35 their deficiencies to be exposed. 00:14:11.38\00:14:13.68 Right. 00:14:13.72\00:14:15.05 Or having to confront their children about it. 00:14:15.08\00:14:17.22 So there was a lot of fear, little skepticism about it, 00:14:17.25\00:14:19.22 but you'll press forward. 00:14:19.25\00:14:20.59 Okay. Go ahead. 00:14:20.62\00:14:21.96 From what kind of happened is I believe that 00:14:21.99\00:14:24.69 when God is setting anything up 00:14:24.73\00:14:27.76 in order to help humans to see it from all angles, 00:14:27.80\00:14:32.50 He allows our humanness to come into play 00:14:32.53\00:14:35.60 and so what I feel 00:14:35.64\00:14:37.34 is that the Holy Spirit really wanted us to see the full scale 00:14:37.37\00:14:40.94 of how warfare was right there within the church 00:14:40.98\00:14:43.88 and not even dealing with what's in the world, 00:14:43.91\00:14:45.58 but right there in the church. 00:14:45.61\00:14:47.02 And so because of it, while we deal with 12 to 24, 00:14:47.05\00:14:51.02 it helped us to realize 00:14:51.05\00:14:52.49 that there needed to be a broader issue. 00:14:52.52\00:14:55.56 Because not only were the girls, 00:14:55.59\00:14:57.59 would girls come back to the same boys 00:14:57.63\00:14:59.33 but coming back to the same home, 00:14:59.36\00:15:00.76 you come back to the same leadership. 00:15:00.80\00:15:02.23 So the Holy Spirit use that to illuminate 00:15:02.26\00:15:04.47 and say to us, it's not just about 12 to 24, 00:15:04.50\00:15:08.94 it's about cradle to grave 00:15:08.97\00:15:10.31 and it's actually about cradle to grave 00:15:10.34\00:15:11.67 because of the fact that, let me tell you something, 00:15:11.71\00:15:14.51 in dealing with the children 00:15:14.54\00:15:16.38 the parents are going to be listening. 00:15:16.41\00:15:18.31 So I'm gonna need to deal with the parents 00:15:18.35\00:15:20.42 but, you know what, as humans and we can say this today 00:15:20.45\00:15:23.89 as humans when we're saying 00:15:23.92\00:15:25.25 that we're dealing with the children, 00:15:25.29\00:15:26.92 it brings the guard of the parent down. 00:15:26.96\00:15:28.56 And so they are able to receive 00:15:28.59\00:15:30.66 because God knows how to get each of us, 00:15:30.69\00:15:33.03 and then in dealing with parents, 00:15:33.06\00:15:34.86 now you're dealing with leadership. 00:15:34.90\00:15:36.23 And because it's about the children, 00:15:36.26\00:15:37.83 it's about the parents, 00:15:37.87\00:15:39.20 then it brings the guard of leadership down 00:15:39.23\00:15:40.57 and their ears are open. 00:15:40.60\00:15:41.94 And so in that way the Lord is getting the exposure 00:15:41.97\00:15:44.97 that He needs to touch each and every life 00:15:45.01\00:15:48.24 because of the structure of how our program is built. 00:15:48.28\00:15:51.31 Right. Right. Okay. 00:15:51.35\00:15:52.68 You know, because of the structure. 00:15:52.71\00:15:54.05 So let's talk about that. 00:15:54.08\00:15:55.42 When you talk about that structure a little bit, 00:15:55.45\00:15:56.79 you know, how is it structured? 00:15:56.82\00:15:58.15 And what makes your program may be different 00:15:58.19\00:15:59.52 than some other maybe retreat or other workshop out there? 00:15:59.55\00:16:05.33 What is it that really makes Pure Reality, Pure Reality? 00:16:05.36\00:16:09.56 There's a couple of things with Pure Reality. 00:16:09.60\00:16:12.33 We teach only abstinence, there is a lot of programs 00:16:12.37\00:16:15.30 that teach abstinence plus. 00:16:15.34\00:16:17.27 Meaning you have it and out. 00:16:17.31\00:16:19.24 You have "Just in case." 00:16:19.27\00:16:22.64 We don't believe that there is a just in case 00:16:22.68\00:16:24.65 in God's law. 00:16:24.68\00:16:26.01 It is what it is, 00:16:26.05\00:16:27.45 and God empowers us to follow His law. 00:16:27.48\00:16:30.42 So our Pure Reality does not compromise purity, 00:16:30.45\00:16:34.39 and does not preach that, 00:16:34.42\00:16:36.02 just in case you decide to try it, 00:16:36.06\00:16:39.03 then use this or that. 00:16:39.06\00:16:40.93 There is no such thing. 00:16:40.96\00:16:42.66 And also we think that purity is not just, 00:16:42.70\00:16:46.23 not doing sex like Pastor Kelly said, 00:16:46.27\00:16:50.17 "Purity is not the absence of something, 00:16:50.21\00:16:53.88 it's the presence of someone." 00:16:53.91\00:16:55.84 And so Pure Reality teaches you 00:16:55.88\00:16:58.08 that your relationship with Jesus Christ 00:16:58.11\00:17:01.55 is what causes you to be pure 00:17:01.58\00:17:04.12 because impurity cannot stand in presence of God. 00:17:04.15\00:17:07.66 And so your purity is dependent 00:17:07.69\00:17:10.99 on your relationship with Christ. 00:17:11.03\00:17:12.99 So the deeper your relationship with Christ, 00:17:13.03\00:17:15.33 the stronger you are and your desire to be pure. 00:17:15.36\00:17:19.50 And the more you are able to sustain 00:17:19.53\00:17:21.70 and withstand that upfront of the devil. 00:17:21.74\00:17:26.07 Okay. Amen. 00:17:26.11\00:17:27.44 And a part of what also makes us different 00:17:27.48\00:17:29.31 is that the components of how we teach, what we teach. 00:17:29.34\00:17:33.31 Because it's not just, 00:17:33.35\00:17:34.68 "Our emphasis is not on abstinence," 00:17:34.72\00:17:36.85 as she said our emphasis is on relationship. 00:17:36.89\00:17:39.52 And our emphasis is on the fact 00:17:39.55\00:17:41.49 that we use this word sex so loosely, 00:17:41.52\00:17:43.36 but it's really about intimacy. 00:17:43.39\00:17:45.16 It's really about 00:17:45.19\00:17:46.53 an intimate relationship with God, 00:17:46.56\00:17:48.83 in order to understand who you are, 00:17:48.86\00:17:51.10 and it's not just about sex 00:17:51.13\00:17:52.67 because there's a whole arena of choices out there 00:17:52.70\00:17:56.94 that may not be of a sexual nature 00:17:56.97\00:18:00.24 but may lead you to a sexual act 00:18:00.28\00:18:03.24 because of your other choices. 00:18:03.28\00:18:04.61 And so therefore, we address and we give a place, 00:18:04.65\00:18:08.38 what makes it different. 00:18:08.42\00:18:09.75 We give young people a place of security 00:18:09.78\00:18:13.15 where I can come to you, 00:18:13.19\00:18:15.06 and a young lady can come to us and say, my arms, I cut them 00:18:15.09\00:18:19.83 because this is the only way that I can release the pain, 00:18:19.86\00:18:22.40 and there is no condemnation. 00:18:22.43\00:18:24.33 I can then talk to this young lady, 00:18:24.37\00:18:27.64 the Lord has just, I just, I'm just so excited 00:18:27.67\00:18:30.31 when I think about what God has done because He showed us. 00:18:30.34\00:18:33.48 We have to have it in a mentored fashion. 00:18:33.51\00:18:35.24 So we have the mentorship, 00:18:35.28\00:18:36.61 we have professionals that are on our staff. 00:18:36.64\00:18:40.05 We have people that are trained by, you know, 00:18:40.08\00:18:43.82 by the educational system 00:18:43.85\00:18:45.19 and then those that the Holy Spirit 00:18:45.22\00:18:46.55 has just empowered 00:18:46.59\00:18:47.92 and so we have levels of security. 00:18:47.96\00:18:49.69 We have everything in place that the Lord has told us 00:18:49.72\00:18:52.39 and that the Holy Spirit had said, 00:18:52.43\00:18:53.76 "This is what they need in order to be safe, 00:18:53.80\00:18:56.63 in order for their eyes to be open." 00:18:56.67\00:18:58.43 And we take that and it's not just anyone thing, 00:18:58.47\00:19:02.54 it's a combination of a group of things 00:19:02.57\00:19:05.97 that really just set young people in a place 00:19:06.01\00:19:08.18 of being able to say, 00:19:08.21\00:19:09.71 "I can be transparent because you've been transparent." 00:19:09.74\00:19:12.21 Amen. That's powerful. 00:19:12.25\00:19:13.58 And I wanna talk a little bit as we're going to our close. 00:19:13.62\00:19:16.69 What are some stories maybe you can share with us, 00:19:16.72\00:19:19.32 some success stories about what this program, 00:19:19.35\00:19:21.89 this ministry has done? 00:19:21.92\00:19:23.26 What you've seen actually happened through the spirit? 00:19:23.29\00:19:26.70 Breaking down on strongholds. 00:19:26.73\00:19:29.40 Mercy. 00:19:29.43\00:19:32.20 Sometimes we see young man, 00:19:32.23\00:19:33.74 for me one of the most powerful experiences 00:19:33.77\00:19:35.70 is to be able to see young man, ages 16 and up, 00:19:35.74\00:19:40.68 even 20 year olds, just breaking down. 00:19:40.71\00:19:46.75 You know, a lot of times we think 00:19:46.78\00:19:48.12 and we started talking earlier about the taboos, 00:19:48.15\00:19:50.39 and the girls, and I think even as a church 00:19:50.42\00:19:52.95 or community or society, 00:19:52.99\00:19:54.66 we always put this onus on females 00:19:54.69\00:19:57.13 as if we're the ones always at fault, 00:19:57.16\00:19:58.73 we're the ones that have to have our stuff straight 00:19:58.76\00:20:00.86 so that the guys won't fall, you know, 00:20:00.90\00:20:03.43 but a lot of our young men are struggling. 00:20:03.47\00:20:05.67 And for me this hold, just Pure Reality 00:20:05.70\00:20:10.41 and this whole stuff have taught me a lot 00:20:10.44\00:20:12.94 about not being judgmental. 00:20:12.97\00:20:15.24 And understanding how people's backgrounds, 00:20:15.28\00:20:18.81 their households, what they live, 00:20:18.85\00:20:20.88 the experiences that they with their parents 00:20:20.92\00:20:22.55 or don't have with their parents, 00:20:22.58\00:20:25.79 things that causes them to act out, 00:20:25.82\00:20:28.92 things that causes them to get into pornography, 00:20:28.96\00:20:31.06 things that cause them 00:20:31.09\00:20:32.43 to have promiscuous behavior or lifestyles. 00:20:32.46\00:20:34.36 Right. 00:20:34.40\00:20:36.20 You know, homosexuality, lesbianism, I mean, name it. 00:20:36.23\00:20:41.50 And just to see sometimes these young men 00:20:41.54\00:20:43.24 that probably don't have father figures 00:20:43.27\00:20:45.37 that found themselves just looking for love 00:20:45.41\00:20:47.61 in all the wrong places. 00:20:47.64\00:20:49.44 Finding out that, you know, we talked about this 00:20:49.48\00:20:51.58 all pure generation concept 00:20:51.61\00:20:54.08 but, you know, technically speaking again 00:20:54.12\00:20:57.39 I don't have to lose my sexuality to show 00:20:57.42\00:21:00.59 that I'm really a man, what makes me a man. 00:21:00.62\00:21:03.39 And being able to see they're saying, you know, 00:21:03.43\00:21:05.26 hey, you know, I hurt. 00:21:05.29\00:21:08.10 You know, every time I did, I have a sexual... 00:21:08.13\00:21:13.40 Interaction? 00:21:13.44\00:21:14.77 Encounter that it wasn't necessarily something 00:21:14.80\00:21:16.97 that made me feel masculine or feel good about myself 00:21:17.01\00:21:20.54 that I do suffer with guilt. 00:21:20.58\00:21:22.81 And being able to let go of themselves. 00:21:22.84\00:21:25.01 Okay. 00:21:25.05\00:21:26.38 Again what makes it different 00:21:26.41\00:21:27.75 is that our speakers are extremely transparent. 00:21:27.78\00:21:30.09 You don't find that in every kind of arena 00:21:30.12\00:21:33.42 or retreat that you go to. 00:21:33.46\00:21:35.06 So it puts the kids at the place 00:21:35.09\00:21:36.76 where they feel comfortable. 00:21:36.79\00:21:38.59 Sometimes our speakers might be people 00:21:38.63\00:21:40.40 that may have also suffer from molestation 00:21:40.43\00:21:44.07 or domestic violence. 00:21:44.10\00:21:45.97 And a lot of our children believe it or not 00:21:46.00\00:21:47.74 are in those same types of environments. 00:21:47.77\00:21:51.21 We do statistics every year 00:21:51.24\00:21:53.71 and funny enough we just did our last, 00:21:53.74\00:21:56.18 I was just getting some numbers from our last survey. 00:21:56.21\00:21:59.88 And on an average we have about 400 young people 00:21:59.91\00:22:02.35 that come to these retreats. 00:22:02.38\00:22:04.02 And got some numbers between the ages of 14 to 17, 00:22:04.05\00:22:09.62 actually under 18, we had about 47% of our young people 00:22:09.66\00:22:13.83 who're already sexually active within that age group. 00:22:13.86\00:22:17.63 One in three of our young ladies 00:22:17.67\00:22:20.70 have had some type of exposure 00:22:20.74\00:22:22.34 to some type of molestations or rape. 00:22:22.37\00:22:26.17 Now these are numbers that's in our church, 00:22:26.21\00:22:29.01 even though our retreat it's actually open 00:22:29.04\00:22:31.01 not just to the church members, 00:22:31.05\00:22:32.45 it's also open to the community. 00:22:32.48\00:22:34.32 We have a large not just in the Florida 00:22:34.35\00:22:37.65 but we have a pretty large cross-section 00:22:37.69\00:22:40.22 of different people coming to the retreat. 00:22:40.26\00:22:43.43 We have folks that are coming from the Islands as well, 00:22:43.46\00:22:46.59 from Jamaica, from the Barbados, 00:22:46.63\00:22:48.63 we have from Bahamas. 00:22:48.66\00:22:50.47 Exactly, we have people that travel all over the place. 00:22:50.50\00:22:52.87 But we actually do the surveys 00:22:52.90\00:22:54.44 and our surveys reflect some of the same issues 00:22:54.47\00:22:57.04 that we have in our regular community. 00:22:57.07\00:22:59.37 So we have some critical issues. 00:22:59.41\00:23:00.88 So, yeah, what makes it powerful? 00:23:00.91\00:23:02.38 What's, as far as the experience 00:23:02.41\00:23:04.15 that I see in these kids having breakthrough. 00:23:04.18\00:23:06.61 For me Pure Reality is about breaking the cycle, 00:23:06.65\00:23:09.68 to me it's about starting new legacies. 00:23:09.72\00:23:11.92 Despite the hurt that you have gone through 00:23:11.95\00:23:14.16 that you can make a difference in your family. 00:23:14.19\00:23:16.36 So, you know, if anything if I were to say 00:23:16.39\00:23:21.20 at the end of the day, what's the success, 00:23:21.23\00:23:23.06 is being able to see these kids saying, 00:23:23.10\00:23:24.70 "Hey, I can break this cycle today, 00:23:24.73\00:23:27.00 I can make it different, 00:23:27.04\00:23:28.44 I can make my family look different." 00:23:28.47\00:23:30.57 So... 00:23:30.61\00:23:31.94 And it changes who they are, it change the reality, really. 00:23:31.97\00:23:33.31 It changes their whole perspective. 00:23:33.34\00:23:35.11 It definitely does. 00:23:35.14\00:23:36.48 And again when we look 00:23:36.51\00:23:37.85 at the large increase in divorce, 00:23:37.88\00:23:40.55 this stuff is hitting us right here in a church. 00:23:40.58\00:23:42.65 Okay. 00:23:42.68\00:23:44.02 Our numbers almost equivalent to what it is out there 00:23:44.05\00:23:46.69 as far as that 50%. 00:23:46.72\00:23:48.22 So, hey, we're here trying to build healthy relationships 00:23:48.26\00:23:51.53 and therefore hopefully have situations 00:23:51.56\00:23:54.06 where our kids now have healthy marriages. 00:23:54.10\00:23:57.57 We want to be able to empower our children to the point 00:23:57.60\00:23:59.83 where they now have all the tools 00:23:59.87\00:24:02.00 to be able to have happy homes. 00:24:02.04\00:24:03.37 Amen. 00:24:03.41\00:24:04.74 As we're going to close, 00:24:04.77\00:24:06.11 you wanna go ahead and share one maybe another story 00:24:06.14\00:24:07.64 or something that took place. 00:24:07.68\00:24:09.01 Furthermore for when we look at our children 00:24:09.04\00:24:12.11 at Pure Reality, the beautiful thing for me 00:24:12.15\00:24:15.05 coming from the personal place inside of me 00:24:15.08\00:24:19.42 is to then now see young people embrace this message and say, 00:24:19.45\00:24:24.46 you know, I'm going To take that extra stance, 00:24:24.49\00:24:26.49 we have a treasure key ceremony that we do after the retreats 00:24:26.53\00:24:28.96 and take this extra stance to say, 00:24:29.00\00:24:31.27 I know that I can now be empowered, 00:24:31.30\00:24:33.27 and I have accountability, and I can remain pure, 00:24:33.30\00:24:36.27 I can talk through my choices with someone, 00:24:36.30\00:24:38.74 and I know that I have that power 00:24:38.77\00:24:40.11 of the Holy Sprit in my life. 00:24:40.14\00:24:41.48 But then the part that's really beautiful 00:24:41.51\00:24:43.88 is seeing the same young people that came to the retreat 00:24:43.91\00:24:47.15 and Satan's lies have been destroyed, 00:24:47.18\00:24:49.55 they have a new reality. 00:24:49.58\00:24:50.95 Then we train them and then they reach this generation. 00:24:50.99\00:24:55.92 Wow. Yeah. 00:24:55.96\00:24:57.29 Because young people will know how to reach young people. 00:24:57.33\00:24:59.23 So it's not about us giving them 00:24:59.26\00:25:02.53 or just facilitating a form for them, 00:25:02.56\00:25:04.70 them in turn taking and saying, 00:25:04.73\00:25:06.80 I'm going to take this and only a way 00:25:06.84\00:25:08.60 that young people can 00:25:08.64\00:25:09.97 and I'm going to impact my generation. 00:25:10.01\00:25:12.47 That's what discipleship is. 00:25:12.51\00:25:13.84 That's exactly what discipleship is. 00:25:13.88\00:25:15.84 And I'm gonna impact that 00:25:15.88\00:25:17.45 and it doesn't matter what my scars are. 00:25:17.48\00:25:20.32 Because we talk about a lot about the sexual component 00:25:20.35\00:25:22.82 like I said, we deal with purity 00:25:22.85\00:25:24.25 and purity is not just about sex. 00:25:24.29\00:25:25.95 Purity is about your choices on a day-to-day basis. 00:25:25.99\00:25:29.19 It's about that alcohol 00:25:29.22\00:25:30.56 that you're drinking behind there, 00:25:30.59\00:25:31.93 it's about the bulimia, it's about the cigarettes, 00:25:31.96\00:25:35.46 it's about so much more, it's about the thoughts, 00:25:35.50\00:25:38.23 the envy, malice, jealousy, and pride. 00:25:38.27\00:25:40.37 And it's a place to say, I'm not perfect, 00:25:40.40\00:25:42.70 but I'm learning and when I learn 00:25:42.74\00:25:44.54 and I empower someone else, then the Holy Spirit helps me 00:25:44.57\00:25:47.51 to be stronger in my work. 00:25:47.54\00:25:48.88 Amen. Amen. 00:25:48.91\00:25:50.25 And a perfect example of success to us 00:25:50.28\00:25:52.61 is the marriages. 00:25:52.65\00:25:53.98 Yeah. 00:25:54.02\00:25:55.35 So we've had a few marriages in the last few years. 00:25:55.38\00:25:57.75 And the young people who came to the Treasure Key Ceremony 00:25:57.79\00:26:01.29 where they receive a key in a box 00:26:01.32\00:26:04.43 that has a note in it to their future spouse, 00:26:04.46\00:26:07.06 promising to keep themselves on to that spouse. 00:26:07.10\00:26:09.53 That's awesome. 00:26:09.56\00:26:10.90 Whether or not they had kept themselves before, 00:26:10.93\00:26:12.97 there is a redemptive power in Pure Reality 00:26:13.00\00:26:15.80 and Jesus where He restores what the locust had taken. 00:26:15.84\00:26:20.14 And so these young people have now decided 00:26:20.18\00:26:23.14 whether or not they were sexually pure before, 00:26:23.18\00:26:26.41 to continue on the word of purity 00:26:26.45\00:26:29.18 and at the altar they exchange keys 00:26:29.22\00:26:32.35 with their partner, with their spouse. 00:26:32.39\00:26:34.82 And so we just feel extremely blessed 00:26:34.86\00:26:38.26 that God is allowing us 00:26:38.29\00:26:39.96 the opportunity to make a difference 00:26:40.00\00:26:42.63 and a new generation to tell others 00:26:42.66\00:26:45.93 that everybody is not doing it. 00:26:45.97\00:26:48.70 That's right. 00:26:48.74\00:26:50.07 Contrary to the message that is popular. 00:26:50.11\00:26:52.37 Everybody is not doing it. 00:26:52.41\00:26:54.64 Amen. 00:26:54.68\00:26:56.01 And there are some who decide 00:26:56.04\00:26:57.38 that they're gonna be like Joseph 00:26:57.41\00:26:58.78 and learn from Potiphar's wife. 00:26:58.81\00:27:00.78 The psalm will decide 00:27:00.82\00:27:02.28 that they're going to be like Esther 00:27:02.32\00:27:03.99 and live for the purpose 00:27:04.02\00:27:05.55 that God has created them to live 00:27:05.59\00:27:07.89 and just be there as a sample, just stand there for Christ, 00:27:07.92\00:27:12.83 and be a witness that purity is a lifestyle choice 00:27:12.86\00:27:16.90 that God had given us. 00:27:16.93\00:27:18.37 That's right. And it's a beautiful thing. 00:27:18.40\00:27:20.37 We are not just the children from our church 00:27:20.40\00:27:21.94 but as we explain the community when their eyes are just opened 00:27:21.97\00:27:26.71 and they're like, wow, 00:27:26.74\00:27:28.48 I have something different I can choose from. 00:27:28.51\00:27:30.78 Wow. That is so beautiful. 00:27:30.81\00:27:32.15 I just want to thank you, three of you, 00:27:32.18\00:27:33.95 the directors coming on and really just sharing with us 00:27:33.98\00:27:36.48 what you do with Pure Reality. 00:27:36.52\00:27:37.85 It's an awesome ministry. 00:27:37.89\00:27:39.22 And we're gonna keep you in prayer and just know 00:27:39.25\00:27:41.36 that God is gonna do something amazing with this. 00:27:41.39\00:27:42.82 So, well, that's our show for today 00:27:42.86\00:27:46.29 and I hope you enjoyed it, 00:27:46.33\00:27:47.66 and just remember to always stay pure 00:27:47.70\00:27:50.47 and make pure choices. 00:27:50.50\00:27:52.53 Until next time, God bless. 00:27:52.57\00:27:54.57