The following program
discusses sensitive issues.
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Parents are
cautioned that some material
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may be too candid
for younger children.
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Hello and
welcome to Pure Choices.
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I'm your host
Pastor Joshua Nelson.
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And I'm so happy once again
that you decided to join us.
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We are here again with
a team from Pure Reality,
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and they have come all the way
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from Miami to talk to us
about making Pure Choices.
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And we just want to introduce
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those who are
here with us today.
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We're going to
start with this lady here,
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tell us who are
you, what's your name.
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My name is Alexa Philassaint,
and I'm from Miami, Florida.
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All right, and
over here to my right.
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My name is Ashaala Sana Jenkins,
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I'm also from Miami, Florida,
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and closely with
the Pure Reality team
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as the worship coordinator.
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Very good.
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My name is Zoe
Winston Cartwright,
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and I am from Atlanta, Georgia.
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All right.
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My name is Krishel Panton,
also a motivational speaker
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with Pure Reality and
just happy to be here.
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Very good.
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Well, we're very
happy that you all are here
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because this is a
very, very important topic
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and you all talk
about it a lot all the time,
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and so we want to really about
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some of these here today
for those who are watching.
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And I spoke with Ashaala earlier
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and she is actually
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our famous
recording artist here today,
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so happy to have her.
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I just wanted to
talk to her about...
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and maybe just sharing
with us first that we start off,
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just give us your testimony,
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you know, what really
has God has done for you
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and even through this
ministry of Pure Reality.
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Well, my Pure
Reality experience is,
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at a very young
age, I was molested.
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And I didn't
realize how much impact
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it would have me on
until my adult life.
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I was actually writing a book
and I started the first pages,
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and I remember typing
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and saying my first
experience with porn
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was at the age of
11, and I stopped.
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And immediately
all the experience
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that I had at
seven came into my head,
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all at once and I
shut the computer down,
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and I just started
crying because I had erased that
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experience out of my
mind what had happened
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because the last words
to me by my baby sister,
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who was a 17-year old girl,
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said to me, "Don't
say anything to anyone."
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And I ran home and I
never said anything to anybody.
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And shutting that out of my head
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until that moment I realized,
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wait, no, my first experience
to porn was at age seven
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because I had to perform
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what was on the
television to her,
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and it was very, very
damaging, I think, for me.
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So because of that,
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that seed that was
planted of that experience
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and that perverted
experience did not harvest
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until I was in my adult life.
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And it got to the point
where I didn't realize that
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as a Christian woman
that this was something
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that I struggled with
which was porn addiction.
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And what happens is
that it's considered a taboo
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in the church, it's a man issue,
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and it's not a man issue.
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As a matter of fact, a
perversion as we call it
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no respecter of
gender or denomination,
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so yes, it happens in
some of the Adventist church.
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And so it got to a
point where it wasn't
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even for
anything sexual anymore,
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it became entertainment.
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And so when that happened,
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I realized that
that was an issue
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and I started writing
during that experience,
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I started journaling
during that experience
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because I knew
this was something
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more than just my flesh
or more than just the choice,
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it was deeper than that,
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it was something that I
know I had to only be handled
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from a spiritual perspective.
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Sure, sure.
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And because of
that, I realized that
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this was something
that I could only handle
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through the Word of God.
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I had a dream, I
was actually walking
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through a highly populated
area and I was walking,
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my parents were behind
me, and as I was walking,
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I was silent, I
wasn't saying anything.
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Immediately ahead of
me, and this is in my dream,
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I saw about 7 to 10
demons walking across.
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And I said, "Guys, look!"
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And as soon as I
opened my mouth to speak,
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they stopped, they
shifted, they looked at me,
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and they
started coming after me.
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Immediately, none of
my parents were there,
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it was just me and these demons,
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and they circled
and camped around me.
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And they all had
weapons in their hands,
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and they were trying
to actually afflict me
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with the weapons,
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but I started
calling on the name of Jesus.
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And when I started
calling on the name of Jesus,
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they started to
spew as if you would see
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in a game or a movie,
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but as they started to
spew, more started coming.
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And I woke up,
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literally calling
on the name of Jesus.
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And I called a friend of mine
that's very accountable to me,
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one of my prayer
partners, and I said,
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"Listen, this is
the dream that I had."
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And she said,
"Ashaala, obviously
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there's a reason for
this because the enemy
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has put ungodly fear in you
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because you're getting
ready to expose the enemy
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and all that he has been
doing to put the people of God
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and to bound them, you know.
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And so because there is
power in the name of Jesus,
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when you call on
Him, the weapons will form
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but they will not
prosper." Hallelujah.
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She did not know I
was writing a book,
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she did not know I was
talking about these issues.
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But she said to me,
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"Is there
something that you're doing,
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you're getting ready to do."
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And I said, "Yes, I'm
actually writing a book
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about Christian
women that's struggling
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or addressing
Christian women that deal with
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sexual perversion in the church.
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And she says, "Well, obviously,"
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she said, "You
need to keep doing it.
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I'm going to
pray, you need to do it.
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I said, "I can't."
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She said, "You need to do it
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because we don't
talk about it enough."
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And let me tell you,
there is not a pill to take.
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There is not a drink to
swallow to get you over it.
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It comes through prayer.
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It comes
through the Word of God.
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I thank God for Romans,
I thank God for Galatians,
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I thank God for knowing
that God loves me despite
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and God still
wants His best for me
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even in the midst.
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And I said, "Well,
God, I'm not worthy."
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And God says, "Okay,
well, I just want you to write."
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And so running
from that for two years,
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it's been a three-year
process, but this summer,
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by God's grace, and
I'm glad to say that
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by the grace of
God everyday dying,
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not even daily anymore,
but dying millisecondly,
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I have been able to
overcome this addiction.
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And now I'm able
to take up my bed
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and walk and tell others
about how God has delivered me
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from such a thing that
we don't want to talk about.
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Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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So that's a little
bit of my testimony.
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Ashaala, I thank you
so much for sharing that.
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That is awesome,
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and it's so
beautiful, and it's so true.
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You know, God is
able to deliver us
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and still delivering us,
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you know, praise God
for that and redemption.
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Thank you so much.
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And it's so brave of
you to share that with us...
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Thank you. It's not
easy. And to be transparent.
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I understand that.
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And that's why I
really want you to share that,
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and thank you
again for being open
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because we want to talk about
this Pure Reality ministry,
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and how it
really invokes that idea
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of being to say thing
like that you just said.
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So I want to talk to Krishel
and you were talking about
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your experience
with Pure Reality,
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and there may be a
little skepticism about
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being in this ministry.
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Share with us a
little bit about that.
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I definitely have
heard different things
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about Pure Reality
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and sometimes you hear
the young people call it
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a sex camp
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because of the way we
address certain issues,
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it just makes it so
real and so to the point.
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As a 25-year old,
going to Pure Reality,
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I had already made
some decision in my life,
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I had already been
exposed to certain things,
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I have already decided that
I wasn't going to be a victim,
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so at the end of the day,
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I started trying to overcome
it by being bigger than it.
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I tried to
manipulate the situations,
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and so I didn't
want a man to hurt me,
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so I decided, "Okay,
well I'm going to get
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in front of him.
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I'm going to better,
I'm going to be quicker,
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I'm going to outthink his game."
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And Pure Reality
was just a great...
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it was just a
great eye-opener for me
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because it allowed me
to be able to see that
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the devil moves in
so many different ways
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through your thought pattern
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that it makes it to the point
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where you can think that
you're doing the right thing,
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but as soon as God
steps into your life,
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you realize that
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you can't do it
that way anymore.
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That's not going to
work, that's not His will,
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that's not His plan.
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Pure Reality says that you're
set apart by divine design,
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that means that
there is a divine plan
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for each one of our lives.
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And this camp, this
retreat has given us
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the opportunity
to be able to put
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some of these
cards on the table.
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"Okay, so you are a backslider,
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so you are not a virgin anymore,
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so you're
addicted to pornography,
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okay, so you're
thinking about homosexuality,"
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it allows us to put some
of these things on the table
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and actually have
a real discussion.
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When you're coming
from homes you don't
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or you're not able to
have these discussions
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because they did not
have the discussions,
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not because they are missing,
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you know, anything as
far as your parenting,
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but they just never
had those discussions.
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You can't expect your
parents to do something
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that they weren't exposed
to or you can't hold them
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accountable for
these type of things.
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And it allows young people,
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Pure Reality allows young people
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to have those
type of conversations,
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we have to have a
fireside chat about the issues
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that are trying to consume us.
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We have to have talks about
how our sensuality, sexuality,
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and our divine
purpose are all connected.
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If we do not have
these conversations,
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then we will be consumed
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because the devil has
created a pattern to consume us.
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He is giving us the same cycles
from the beginning of time.
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It's the same
idea about choices.
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And so this retreat has,
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even over the
years I realized that,
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year one, "Okay,
this is just a retreat.
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Yup, we're going, of
course, we've been to camp.
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You know, this is not new,
we've been to camp before,"
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but when I got there,
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"Oh, no, I got to go
through this experience.
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This is not a camp
anymore, this is my life."
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And... Oh. No, no, go ahead.
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I was just going to talk about
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what you said
about it being a retreat.
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So maybe some
people didn't know that,
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so is it more of a retreat
or are there other things
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that you all do
involved with this whole process
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of this Pure Reality ministry?
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Somebody else want
to maybe share about
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what other things
happened with Pure Reality.
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Oh, man, where do we begin.
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Well, you come, you get
there, there's orientation,
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there's registration.
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But not only that,
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I think the
beauty of Pure Reality
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is that you meet
so many young people
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from all different
parts, not just America,
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but we've had our
children from the Bahamas,
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we've had youth from
Jamaica, we've had speakers,
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you know, from California.
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I mean, there
is a plethora of...
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There's diversity, you know,
and so Christ is represented
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in every one that
comes to Pure Reality.
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Not only that, but the worship,
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you know, we do
praise and worship.
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And as a worship
leader, from my perspective,
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I'm looking at
a sea of 600, 700,
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we've had 800 kids,
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just all lifting their
hands and worshiping God.
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You know, game night,
we do have game night,
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we have fun, the
guys play basketball,
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we have the bounce house.
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And another thing
that's very pivotal
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for the Pure Reality
Retreat on the weekend
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is the baptism in
the burning service
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or the consecration in
the, the consecration service
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when you see so
many young people come up
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and they say, "I want to
give up life over to God."
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And they come and the pastors,
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and the Pure Reality counselors,
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or the elders that
are there pray over them
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and anoint them with oil.
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And then those that
want to become baptized,
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there's the river,
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and we actually
go into that river,
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it's not a pool,
it's the actual lake,
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and they go and they baptize,
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they get baptized into the lake.
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And I think that's
an amazing experience.
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That's awesome, wow.
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So these
students or young people,
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they come and they
experience this weekend,
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and we talked
about and touched about
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the transparency
that you all to promote,
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and I want to talk to Alexa
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then, there is a story
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I think you were
telling me earlier about
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when you all were
at an anointing service
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or something, you
want to just share with us
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about this
issue of transparency.
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Well, you know, transparency
is a big issue in our church,
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especially as
Seventh-day Adventist youth,
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we recognize that
a lot of our parents,
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a lot of our elders don't
tend to be transparent with us.
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And perhaps it's
because they might believe
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that we will judge them
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or not take their
word of their wisdom,
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but it's completely
the other way around.
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And at Pure Reality,
we really have a chance
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to be transparent
because we see older people,
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the speakers who come,
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they give their
testimony and tell us,
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they've suffered
with pornography,
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they've suffered with infidelity
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or different
things that have happened,
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and that allows us in turn
to become transparent as well.
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During the
anointing ceremony one year,
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there was a speaker
and she encouraged those...
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usually what we do
during the ceremony
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is that we will write on
a piece of paper any sin,
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anything that you want
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God to take away
from you for that year,
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and we will
burn it in a bonfire.
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But that year, she told
us, when you write it down,
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when you go to the
pastor or the elder
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that's going to pray
over you, you need to read it,
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and you need to
speak it out loud.
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And immediately, there
was a hush in the room,
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and then murmuring everywhere,
murmuring everywhere.
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And she began to
speak loudly and she said,
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"Be quiet, be quiet,"
and there was a silence.
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And we were talking
later and we realized that
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it wasn't the
youth or the people
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that she was
speaking to but the demons
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that were
speaking to the children
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and telling them,
"You can't say it,
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no don't say it
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because they're going to
think that you're horrible.
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You'll never be
saved. You can't say it."
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And I think that moment
was the moment of realization
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especially for me
because when I went up there,
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even though I couldn't speak it,
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I showed the paper,
and it was a big deal
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because it was
the year of freedom.
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Amen.
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I could see that's
really has touched you.
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You know, being able to
be open and transparent.
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And I believe
that Satan has done
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just a number on us.
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And that just
goes back to garden,
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you know, trying
to hide ourselves,
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same goes with us to
recluse and not wanting to go
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to Christ for that salvation,
for that saving, you know.
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That is...
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I appreciate you
sharing that, Alexa.
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We want to continue
talking about this issue
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with transparency
that why is it so hard,
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you know, for people
to feel okay to share.
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And I appreciate you all sharing
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because this is
important for us to see this.
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But why is it so
hard for people to share,
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you know.
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I think it's because
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the devil has convinced
us that we're not worthy,
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that worth is so
important to know that
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you can share, it's
like if we muffle it,
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if we close it up,
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then everybody
will die silently,
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but if we're
able to just open up,
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then we will see able to
see that we are each connected.
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Sometimes I
relate it to science,
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every cell is
dependent on another cell
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in order to
survive, in order to build,
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to make tissue, in
order to make organs,
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in order to make organ systems.
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And if we looked at
each other as cells,
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we need each other,
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we need to be able
to support each other.
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We need the walls of each
other to build structures.
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The devil has created
division by making us feel like
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we are divided from the throne,
we are not worthy to be there,
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we are so far removed from it
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that we need to
just stay in our place.
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Transparency is so difficult
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because you just feel
like you're the only one,
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and Pure Reality
gives you the opportunity
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to feel like you
are not the only one.
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I'm not the only one
struggling with molestation.
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I'm not the only one
struggling with perversion,
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and once you get in a
room of people that know
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that they have these problems
and can say and admit it,
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it just, it frees you.
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Like Alexa said, it frees you,
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you don't want to stop
talking about it anymore.
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You want to let everyone know
that you come in contact with
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that God has changed your
life and you're not a victim,
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you are a victor, that
is a powerful movement.
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And the devil
just does not want you
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to feel the power
that God has given you.
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He doesn't want that, you know,
the truth will set you free.
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And really this society
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and how things
looks in the media
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is all kind of set up
to really say you know,
00:17:59.34\00:18:01.68
don't share your
problems, you know,
00:18:01.71\00:18:03.55
just go with the flow.
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And even in our churches
00:18:05.25\00:18:06.58
how things are set up, you know,
00:18:06.61\00:18:07.95
just don't say,
just come to church,
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go home, don't
ruffle up the feathers,
00:18:09.52\00:18:11.85
don't rock the boat,
just keep thing on, you know.
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And don't really
say anything, you know,
00:18:14.46\00:18:16.86
but what is that
you're saying here
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is we need to reject
that type of mindset.
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We need to
speak about, and talk,
00:18:21.03\00:18:22.36
and be in
community and fellowship,
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that's just beautiful.
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But I want to
touch it even more on
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what this society,
what is happening now
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in this
generation, so we have Zoe,
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who is our younger one here,
yes, but talk to us about this.
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I guess the biggest thing I see,
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I just started
college, I'm a freshman,
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I guess what I see
mostly is our generation
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especially the younger ones
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can tell when people
aren't being transparent.
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So we see all these people
00:18:50.39\00:18:51.73
in front of us
who aren't being real,
00:18:51.76\00:18:53.70
who aren't being realistic,
who aren't telling the truth,
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and you can see,
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I guess you can see
that there is struggle
00:18:57.60\00:19:00.84
but they're not bold
enough and brave enough to admit
00:19:00.87\00:19:04.71
that they are struggling,
and so you are saying,
00:19:04.74\00:19:07.34
"Well, if you can't admit
it, then why can't I admit it.
00:19:07.38\00:19:09.74
And if you're saying
that you can be all something,
00:19:09.78\00:19:13.92
you can be so perfect
00:19:13.95\00:19:15.28
with this sense
then why can't I?"
00:19:15.32\00:19:17.79
And that's why the transparency
00:19:17.82\00:19:21.32
that comes with Pure
Reality is so powerful
00:19:21.36\00:19:23.83
because that's when you
have victory over things
00:19:23.86\00:19:25.66
is when you're transparent,
00:19:25.69\00:19:27.03
when you're open
about what's wrong.
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And I guess that's
what happened with me
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with Pure Reality
because it was different.
00:19:31.53\00:19:33.97
And I had heard
about Pure Reality
00:19:34.00\00:19:35.57
when I first came to church.
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They just had a retreat,
00:19:37.54\00:19:40.48
and somebody
came to me and said,
00:19:40.51\00:19:41.88
"You're going to
be a Pure Ambassador,"
00:19:41.91\00:19:43.24
and Pure
Ambassadors are basically,
00:19:43.28\00:19:44.98
this is what we do,
we go and we talk about
00:19:45.01\00:19:47.22
the Pure Reality.
00:19:47.25\00:19:48.75
But somebody said
you're going to be
00:19:48.78\00:19:50.29
a Pure
Ambassador, and that time,
00:19:50.32\00:19:51.65
I didn't even know
about Pure Reality.
00:19:51.69\00:19:53.02
And they said I'm going
to be a Pure Ambassador,
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I said, "Okay, if
you say so, all right."
00:19:54.42\00:19:57.53
And over then I hadn't
even been to retreat yet
00:19:57.56\00:20:00.56
when I started
working with Pure Reality.
00:20:00.60\00:20:02.26
And I started to
see all these people
00:20:02.30\00:20:04.53
who were so
touched by this ministry
00:20:04.57\00:20:06.43
that I wasn't
really even aware of.
00:20:06.47\00:20:08.27
And so when I first
went, I was like, okay,
00:20:08.30\00:20:10.21
this is going to be, I
had this already a mindset
00:20:10.24\00:20:12.01
about how it was going to
be, and I went to the retreat
00:20:12.04\00:20:14.81
and it was completely different
than anything I expected to be.
00:20:14.84\00:20:17.85
And I think that was the year
00:20:17.88\00:20:19.58
of actually
hearing your testimony,
00:20:19.61\00:20:20.95
was the first one I heard.
00:20:20.98\00:20:22.32
And I was like,
"People are so real here,
00:20:22.35\00:20:24.09
it's so different,"
because it's not the usual
00:20:24.12\00:20:27.86
we are going to cover
it up, we are all going to,
00:20:27.89\00:20:29.26
you know hearing how bold
people were about changed,
00:20:29.29\00:20:32.76
they had been was very powerful.
00:20:32.79\00:20:34.80
And I think that's what touches,
00:20:34.83\00:20:37.63
what's so
powerful about the ministry
00:20:37.67\00:20:39.00
and what touches this generation
00:20:39.03\00:20:40.74
is the transparency
00:20:40.77\00:20:43.00
because that's when
you know what's coming,
00:20:43.04\00:20:46.01
this is what happens,
if you stay on this path,
00:20:46.04\00:20:47.91
this is what you get into.
00:20:47.94\00:20:49.28
If you aren't
careful, this is what happens.
00:20:49.31\00:20:51.45
If you let the
devil have a little bit,
00:20:51.48\00:20:55.08
you can play
games with the devil
00:20:55.12\00:20:56.69
because he is
going to want it all.
00:20:56.72\00:20:58.39
And when you can say that,
00:20:58.42\00:20:59.85
and when people can be
bold about that and say,
00:20:59.89\00:21:01.76
"You know what,
you really don't want,
00:21:01.79\00:21:03.19
this is not a road
you want to go down
00:21:03.22\00:21:04.79
or if you're down
this road, you need to stop
00:21:04.83\00:21:06.59
because there is
way you can stop,
00:21:06.63\00:21:08.73
that you don't have to..."
00:21:08.76\00:21:10.27
There's a certain
I guess stereotype
00:21:10.30\00:21:13.60
that goes with certain
things that come along with it,
00:21:13.64\00:21:16.07
and if this happens to you,
00:21:16.10\00:21:17.81
then this is what
you're going to do.
00:21:17.84\00:21:19.17
This happens to you,
00:21:19.21\00:21:20.54
this is what
you're going to become.
00:21:20.58\00:21:21.91
And Pure Reality
says you don't have to.
00:21:21.94\00:21:23.95
Just because this
has happened to you,
00:21:23.98\00:21:25.58
just because
you've been molested,
00:21:25.61\00:21:26.98
just because you have
these things happen to you,
00:21:27.02\00:21:29.25
just because you have
issues with your father,
00:21:29.28\00:21:31.09
this does not mean that
you have to become this.
00:21:31.12\00:21:33.66
You have power, and
I guess you always hear
00:21:33.69\00:21:36.69
these generational curses
00:21:36.73\00:21:39.06
into the third
and fourth generation.
00:21:39.09\00:21:40.53
I guess, Pure Reality
00:21:40.56\00:21:42.00
is where those
generational curses
00:21:42.03\00:21:43.60
into the third and fourth
generation meets that mercy,
00:21:43.63\00:21:46.63
that mercy and
showing mercy to thousands,
00:21:46.67\00:21:49.00
"If you love me,
keep My commandments."
00:21:49.04\00:21:50.44
And that's where
Pure Reality works for me,
00:21:50.47\00:21:52.57
it's where I met that mercy
00:21:52.61\00:21:55.91
that stops those
generational curses.
00:21:55.94\00:21:57.75
Amen.
00:21:57.78\00:21:59.11
Amen, that's powerful,
that's preaching over here.
00:21:59.15\00:22:00.78
I know, right?
00:22:00.82\00:22:02.15
All right, don't get me started.
00:22:02.18\00:22:03.95
That's all right,
and this generation
00:22:03.99\00:22:05.59
really is craving
for, like you said,
00:22:05.62\00:22:07.16
the authenticity 'cause you see,
00:22:07.19\00:22:09.26
you know, this
generation, our generation,
00:22:09.29\00:22:10.93
you know, we're real
because a lot of times,
00:22:10.96\00:22:13.83
we'll say, "This
is what I'm doing,
00:22:13.86\00:22:15.40
so what? I'm going
to do it, you know."
00:22:15.43\00:22:17.73
But we really meet
that other person, mentor,
00:22:17.77\00:22:21.20
who is also going to be
real back to us and say,
00:22:21.24\00:22:22.74
"What? You know, you
shouldn't be doing this
00:22:22.77\00:22:24.11
and this is why."
00:22:24.14\00:22:25.47
So that's
awesome, that's awesome.
00:22:25.51\00:22:26.94
So talk to me now as, you know,
all four young ladies here,
00:22:26.98\00:22:31.01
talk to me about
00:22:31.05\00:22:32.38
what are the
issues of young women now.
00:22:32.41\00:22:34.42
And we only have a
few more minutes now,
00:22:34.45\00:22:35.78
but talk to us
a little bit about
00:22:35.82\00:22:37.15
what would you say
to young women now,
00:22:37.19\00:22:39.82
what are they going through.
00:22:39.85\00:22:42.16
One of the issues where I
know, over the past seven years
00:22:42.19\00:22:46.26
that I have been
going to Pure Reality,
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one of the biggest
issues I think that's happening,
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especially for the
young women, peer pressure,
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peer pressure to
have sex, not only that,
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we are dealing a
lot with young girls,
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lesbianism, experimenting.
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Now you have a
lot of young girls,
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it's no longer
BFFs, they are BFFs
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with other benefits.
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You know, we had a lot of girls
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that are cutters
that are very depressed.
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We've had a lot of young
ladies that are dealing with...
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I remember one Pure
Reality, we did a survey,
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and there were
actually young girls
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that were actually
going through being raped
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or molested in the
process of Pure Reality.
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I mean, and the list
goes on and on and on and on,
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but I think the biggest
thing that we're dealing
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with right now is
lesbianism, low self-esteem,
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peer pressure, promiscuity,
different things like that.
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And we have a quite a
few of our young ladies
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that are virgins
but are struggling
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with masturbation,
and really don't know...
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they feel dirty, they
feel that's why they don't know
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who to talk to in regards to it.
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And then we have a
lot of young ladies
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that are having unprotected sex
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and they don't
feel threatened by it.
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They don't feel like
anything's going to happen
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because they
haven't been pregnant,
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it's beyond pregnancy, you know.
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That's what Pure
Reality teaches you
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because that's what you...
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The most common
thing that we teach
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is pregnancy and STDs,
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and so
especially in the church...
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Well, first of all we feel
like we don't have any STDs,
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but then we feel like, you know,
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"If I'm not pregnant,
then I will catch a disease.
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If I'm careful,
if I use protection,
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then that's the only
issue that comes with it.
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And so as long as
I don't get pregnant,
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as long as I don't get
an STD, I'm safe, I'm good."
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And we don't
talk about the demons
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and the things
that you encounter,
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the spiritual
warfare that you go through
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doing things that you
know you shouldn't be doing.
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A lot of our women
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are also feeling
the need to settle.
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That is like the biggest
issue when you hear young women,
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"Should I settle
because I just don't see
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anything come in my way,
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there are not a lot of
men that are Christ-like
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or it's not enough
men in the church,"
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and so they feel
the need to settle.
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And they end up
settling with things
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that they have no
business settling with.
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And so I think
that's also a big issue
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for our young ladies
because now they're questioning
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whether they are worth enough
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to find somebody
that is God-fearing.
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They question whether or
not they're worthy enough
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to have their
list of expectations
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but reasonable expectations,
and they're questioning
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whether they should
even have that list.
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"Let's just throw
it out of the door
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because I'm not going
to be able to find that,"
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but God has a different purpose.
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And if we understand His
plan, then we have to understand
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that He is working on creating
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somebody just as perfect
for us on the other side,
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but we have to be
able to wait on him
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and understand that
it's okay to be alone in Him
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for Him to be able to
make that connection for you.
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Amen, amen.
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We have just a
few more minutes here.
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Alexa, you're married. Yes.
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So why is it
important for young women
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to just wait and be pure?
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What is purity? What's
so important about that?
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This is a big deal to me
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because in my
experience in growing up,
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you know, my mother was
huge in always telling me
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that I needed to
maintain my virginity.
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And, you know,
sometimes when we're growing up
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we don't understand it
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because there is
that peer pressure
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like Ashaala mentioned.
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There is that feeling
that I have to settle.
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There's this
thing that, you know,
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"We have to live
together or I need to know
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what I'm getting
before I tie it down."
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And I waited, and
I'm so glad that I did
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because my
husband always tells me
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that's the best gift
you could have given me,
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the same words that my
mom told me came to fruition.
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And he said,
"That's the best gift
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that you could have given
me because I know that my wife
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hasn't been with anybody else."
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And along the way,
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it's not to say that
we have been perfect,
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we did it for a long time,
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but God has been able to keep us
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and I earnestly believe that
it's only through Pure Reality,
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going there, understanding,
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taking it in,
being willing to be open
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and receive the
knowledge and the wisdom
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that was given to us
and impart that knowledge,
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and use it, and practice it
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in our
relationship was what kept us.
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Wow, that's beautiful.
And maybe 15 seconds here.
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Tell the young
ladies something that...
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Listen to me, God loves
you, but the enemy hates you.
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And because the enemy hates you,
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he is going to create diversions
00:27:24.94\00:27:26.27
to make you think
that you're not fearfully
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and wonderfully
made in His image.
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But I'm here to tell you today
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that if God can
use me out of concrete
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and now blossoming into
a rose, God can use you.
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Have no fear
because He loves you,
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He loves you, and He
wants what's best for you.
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So keep your head up,
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keep your head
up, and keep going.
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And know that you are
victorious through Christ.
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God has made you
more than a conqueror
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and through your
testimony, you can overcome.
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Well, that's the
end of our program.
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Until next time,
stay pure. God bless.
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