Hello and welcome.
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I'm so glad you
decided to join us
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for this new program
called "Pure Choices."
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My name is Seth Yelorda and
I'll be your host this season.
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And what we want to do
in this program is to deal
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very specifically
with sex and sexuality
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but not in the traditional way
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that you've always
heard it dealt with
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but in a real, practical way,
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something that can be
applied to your personal lives.
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Now I have with me
some of my colleagues
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and they're
going to be journeying
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with us this
season, trying to help us
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to better understand God's
ideal for our sex and sexuality
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and how the world
has kind of distorted it.
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So I'm gonna take
a moment right now
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and just introduce you
to these colleagues of mine.
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I have here my
brother Alfonzo Greene.
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He pastors in Huntsville,
Alabama at the First SDA Church.
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I have Michael Polite.
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He also serves as a
pastor in Nashville, Tennessee
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at the Riverside
Chapel SDA Church.
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On my right I have Lola Moore
who also serves as the pastor
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here in Huntsville at the
Oakwood University Church.
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And then my brother
from another mother,
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you know, Michael B. Kelley
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who comes all the
way from California.
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He's the pastor of the
Mount Rubidoux SDA Church
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there in California.
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And we're all just so
glad to be with you today
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and just to be able to
really tackle this tough issue.
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Now specifically for
this-- for today in this episode
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what we want to
really kind of unpack
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is sex in the
entertainment industry.
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We know that when we look around
at the entertainment industry
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they are constantly
kind of filling our minds
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and the airwaves
and the television,
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the internet
with sex and sexuality
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and we know that sex sells.
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In fact, I recently saw a
commercial about Axe and how--
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you've seen Axe before.
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They're talking about using
sex to sell this deodorant.
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What do you all think?
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I mean you see
this thing and clearly--
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I mean it was very
clear that sex is--
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I mean they're using sex
to sell deodorant, you know.
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Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about it.
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Well, I think it's a little
bit-- Obviously we know that
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sex as we said
earlier was gonna sell.
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But it's not just selling sex
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but I think the thing
about the Axe commercial,
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even the one that we just saw
is what it is selling about sex.
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You know, it's
one thing to use sex
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to just get me
to buy the product
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but there's more
that they're trying to say
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about not just the product
but I think about sex itself.
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Because in the video
it will be one thing if--
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in the commercial if the guy,
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you know, found his
soul-mate as a result of Axe.
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I might be even a little more,
you know, comfortable with that.
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But what it's saying is
that sex is not just something
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that is to be experienced
or all this with one individual
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but, you know, there's a flock
of women and different women.
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I don't think it's just whether
the industry is selling sex
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but exactly what are
they saying about sex.
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I mean when you look at this,
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the industry is
taking something that--
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you know, all of
us were sexual beings.
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You know, God
created us sexual beings.
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And so the
industry knowing that,
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they know that we are
inclined to sexuality,
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to sexual expression, you know,
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that's all the
fundamental need that we have.
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And so they take that and
they package it in such a way
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where they can now sell
their products by using that.
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Does that make sense? Yeah.
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Very much so. And I think
Axe takes it to another level.
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In the commercial
that they released
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soon after the
Chocolate Man they have one
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that's popularly
known as Angels Fall
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where the young
man sprays himself
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and all of a sudden you got
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these angels
falling like meteors.
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And they all flock to him
because he has on this spray.
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And then at the end it says
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"Axe links spray even
can make angels' fall."
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So now we're looking at okay,
what is it telling me about sex?
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Well, it's telling me that
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not only will this
spray help me get women
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but it will also help
me up my virgin count.
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It will help me get those women
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that are trying to remain clean,
pure, all of that good stuff.
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So that commercial takes
it a step further. Right.
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Yeah, I mean it
all gets into the--
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I was reading about
advertising and marketing
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and it talked about
how they try to find
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points of weakness
in men, women and kids
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and then they use
that weakness to advertise
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and sell their product.
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I mean if we'd
just be real though
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you could be bathed in Axe
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but if you have like no
game, no skill, no swag,
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I mean you can take
a shower in some Axe,
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it is not going to help you out.
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So they're focusing
on that point of weakness
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and selling their product.
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It's right because when
you look at these commercials
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they are not-- they
are not spraying Axe
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on some dude who's like 6' 5",
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you know, 250, ripped up.
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Now these are like skinny,
short, it's nothing wrong
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with skinny, short
people but they're saying that--
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Don't hit on the
skinny, short people--
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Touche. Touche.
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But it seems like Axe
will help you compensate.
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It will help you
make up the difference
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where you just naturally lack.
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So you might not be
able to get women on your own
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but with this spray--
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Put that spray on.
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It will help you.
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You know, but
it's not just Axe but--
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you know, I
remember back in the day,
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you know, the Herbal
Essence commercials--
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I don't know if you
all ever seen those.
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Oh, my goodness.
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You know, the Herbal Essence,
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what you have, this
woman who puts this shampoo
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and she just goes wild.
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I mean what's the--I mean
what is that message telling us?
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What's the--and not
just what it is telling us
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but what's the
problem with this message?
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I mean usually the
object of the Herbal Essence
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effect is a woman,
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probably a woman
who's in her middle thirties
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or something like that.
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Traditionally in our
society coming up to this day
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we've had a bit of
prudishness amongst women
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with regard to sexuality
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and as I look at
the Axe commercial,
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I'm looking at Herbal Essences.
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First off they're
telling us, "loosen up.
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It's not that deep."
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You know what I mean?
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And then secondly for a gender
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who is traditionally
depleted of sexual pleasure,
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if you will-- the
guys usually get theirs
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but women don't get theirs--
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Herbal Essence is trying to say,
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you know, go get yours, too.
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You can get yours.
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So when we think
about women's lib
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or think about
women's liberation
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both these
commercials are saying to me,
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"It's not that deep.
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You need to get
pleased as well."
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And so I'm
thinking that this is like
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a
individualistic type selfishness
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that is-- it's teaching me--
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What's the
problem with this message?
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Well, you know, the
thing is what's happening is
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all of our young
people because, you know,
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the stat say we're watching
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an average of between 6 and
8 hours of TV almost every day.
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And so in between
what we're watching,
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usually even the
TV shows themselves
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are carrying with them
these inappropriate messages
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concerning sex or having some
truth about sex mixed up in,
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you know, some non-truths.
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But not only that
but in between the shows
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you have the commercials.
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So I think what
the biggest issue is
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we are being
bombarded through the media,
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which we all are
very connected to,
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whether it's our cell
phone, iPad, with an ideology.
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And what's happening is
if the media is so successful
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in the ideology
what else are the kids,
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the young people, even adults,
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of course, what
are they getting?
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Because they're
getting that one aspect
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and that's where, you know,
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I think this show, you
know, this program in the church
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has to be able to combat.
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Okay, you're getting
bombarded with this message
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but here's another
message, you know, about that.
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So what is the
message that we're getting
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from media concerning sex?
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Because it's
funny because, you know,
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no matter how strong
we may feel that we are,
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you know, the Bible's very clear
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that by beholding
you become changed.
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And so if I'm sitting
in front of television,
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I'm watching this stuff.
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I'm listening
to it on the radio.
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You know, I got it
on my iPad, on my iPod.
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I'm looking at it
in the movie theater.
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If I'm listening to this
it's having an affect on me
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whether I want it to or not.
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So the question is what
ultimately is the message
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that the world is telling
us about sex through the media.
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I think the first
thing that jumps off for me
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is that everybody
is doing it. Okay.
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As you look at the commercials
there's a wide array of people
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who are engaged either
in some form of foreplay
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or actual full on. And so--
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Well, if you're not doing
it, if everyone's not doing it,
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something's wrong with
you if you're not doing it.
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Right, so yeah,
if I'm not doing it
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there's something wrong with me.
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I need to get with
the program, you know.
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And this product can
help me get with the program.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Another one is that
there's a possibility
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to achieve
pleasure without refinement.
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So you have a lot of people
I think that look at God's law
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as something that's
keeping me from pleasure.
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It's like prolonged reward.
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I have to wait to get to heaven
to live in that perfect utopia.
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So what God requires is no,
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there's a time of refinement
and then you get pleasure.
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When you say
refinement what do you mean?
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There's a time where you
have to be reformed, rebuilt,
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born again is the
phrase that is out there
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but really He has to
take some time to shaping you
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and to fashion you
and that is uncomfortable.
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So if we look at sexuality
as something to be engaged in,
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in marriage you're saying, no,
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first you have to go through
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the refinement of
building that relationship,
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finding a soul-mate, all
of that, then pleasure comes.
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The world's like,
"Oh, bunk the refinement.
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Let's go to pleasure."
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Let' spray on some Axe.
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And that's the important
thing because within 30 seconds
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you're getting the message--
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you're getting a complete story
that really should take years--
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Years to build.
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Lifetime to build
but I see it quick
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and when I'm
bombarded with that,
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what the media, their
success really is I believe
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is getting us to
see something so much
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that we feel we have
to have it right now.
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And there's a battle with that
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because not
only am I seeing that
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but my body
actually at certain times
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as I'm growing up is
responding to it and saying,
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"Yeah, I do,"
because we were made
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and we're not afraid to say
as the Bible makes it very clear
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that we were made to create.
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There's a desire
in us to do that.
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And what
they--what they're doing to me
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is I think they play
off of that and let's not--
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I don't think we should
kid ourselves into thinking
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they don't look at
those things and say,
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you know, yes, of course,
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we believe in that, maybe
even some of them do understand
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we're created this way.
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And so we can
just keep pushing it,
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pushing it, pushing it
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and it no longer
becomes something
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that we should wait
for but I've got to get it,
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get it right now
because media is all about fast.
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It's all about
getting fast, fast, fast.
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And, you know--and I was
just going to add on to that,
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that, you know, it's just with,
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you know, that everyone
is searching for fulfillment
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and it's just kind of a shortcut
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so I can actually just
get fulfillment instantly
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by just engaging in
this type of activity
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as opposed to just the time,
just putting in the effort,
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making all the
necessary deposits
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so that I can
actually have the truth
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So it's just saying
let's skip everything.
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Let's skip all of
the necessary time
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it takes to really
build a relationship
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and actually have
commitment and just--
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you can just have
it right now. Yeah.
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You know, it's
interesting, I think that,
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you know, behind that message
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it's almost like the world is
telling us that your sexuality,
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your desire,
your urges or whatever
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that it's for one purpose
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and that's just to
satisfy your own sexual urges,
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your own sexual pleasure.
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So your sexuality is
for your sexual pleasure.
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And they're
telling us that listen
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there's nothing wrong
with you being pleased.
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There's nothing wrong with
you going out and getting yours.
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There's nothing wrong with,
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you know, you having
sexual escapades or hooking up,
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one-night stands or
however you want to slice it.
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And it's
interesting how the world,
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they sell sex within
the context of singles
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but they don't try to sell sex
within the context of marriage.
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Right. I mean, you notice that?
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I mean it's a powerful point
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because what they
really almost show is that
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you have more
sex before marriage
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and when you get married
it just all stops, you know.
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That's what he tries to do
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You want to be Mary
Magdalene before you get married
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and then become
Mary, the mother of Jesus.
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But I remember-- I
know we were talking--
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I think, Lola,
you were mentioning
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the idea of what they say.
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You know, the idea of sex
outside marriage is better--
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we don't promote
that in marriage.
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But there was something
I remember you were saying
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about how the
longer couples something--
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something along those lines.
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Oh, okay,
because statistically--
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They don't promote that.
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Right. Statistically it's
shown that sex is something
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that grows better
with age, kind of like,
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you know, other products,
getting better with age.
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And so-- Thank you, Lord.
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Yeah. I wasn't sure
if I should say that.
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So the longer a
couple is together,
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the longer a
married couple is together,
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the better it gets.
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Better the sex gets.
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But what the
media tells us is that
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it's the instant gratification
of that first time,
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a new person, a new
escapade with someone else,
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you know, that variety
is what makes it great.
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What we find when
we do our research
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that it's the longer we have
one partner and we've learned
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from one another that
it actually gets better.
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And based on
the media standpoint
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they need to make us
think opposite than that
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because that doesn't sell.
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The whole sex
industry has to make money.
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So a lot of the things
that they're showing us
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in the
entertainment industry is not
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because they
themselves believe in it.
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We see this all the time
with certain CEOs of companies
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that are selling
products that they don't use
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because they
understand the negative effect.
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But they understand,
no, if I sell it this way
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I'll make a lot of money.
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If I'm just with
this partner for 20 years
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I'm not going to make money,
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just like if I can wear
these pair of shoes for 20 years
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the company is
not making no money.
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But, you know,
the old adage goes,
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"Forbidden fruit is
all the more sweet."
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And so having something that
I can have is not very exciting
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but getting something
that I'm not supposed to have,
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getting
something that's supposed
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to be out of my
reach, that's what sells.
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And that's why the
media will go with that
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because it's
not really something
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you're supposed to have
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but it's sweeter because
it's forbidden, if you will.
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Mm-hmm, that's good.
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So what then is--
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you know, we know
that we're sexual beings.
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We were born this way.
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We're wired to relate to each
other based on our sexuality.
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So I'm a man and so I'm going
to relate to the world as a man.
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And as a man I have
certain urges and desires
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that the world plays on to
get me to buy certain products.
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And they're telling me--
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they're sending me
a message that says,
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basically,
you're a man, you know.
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You deserve to
get yours, you know.
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It's my right, especially
if my wife doesn't want
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to give me any it's
my right to go get some
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wherever I can get it from.
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So that's what
the world is saying.
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What then is the
opposite message?
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What then should the--what
should the church be saying?
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I mean why did God--
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you know, what's the
point of our sexuality?
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Why did God create
us as sexual beings?
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Yeah, well, I
finished this somewhere along,
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you know, those lines.
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The topic is what God has called
us for even in our sexuality.
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I love the name of the
program, is to be pure.
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I mean even in our
sexuality we're to be pure.
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You know, Paul
tells us in Philippians,
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you know, whatsoever is
good, whatsoever is pure,
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whatsoever is holy
think on these things.
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And so while we are getting
the desire from the media
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we got to understand that
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when that kind of
stuff gets in our minds,
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even all the
time if I'm reckless--
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I want to be clear.
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Some folk, I think, may
be sitting at home thinking,
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"Okay, well, I'm not having sex.
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So this does not apply to me."
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But what you're
watching in this media
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is not
contributing to your purity
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which is what
Christ is really after.
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He's not after you
just keeping out of bed.
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As a matter of
fact the Message Bible
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where Christ says
don't think you've preserved
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your virtue by
staying out of bed.
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You know, those leering
looks that nobody notices,
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those also are corrupt, too.
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That's, you know,
in the Message Bible
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when Jesus is
speaking the beatitudes.
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So I think the thing is
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we've got to
start to replace that
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which the media is
giving us in our minds
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with other things that are pure.
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And I think
it's just a principle
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that should
apply across the board.
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Whatsoever is
pure, whatsoever is holy,
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those are the things
we've got to go ahead and think.
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It's crazy, man.
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The world
literally just jacks us up.
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I mean from birth
they're just really getting us--
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they're really-- they
socialize us to believe
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that my sexuality is
all about my sexuality,
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me being pleased when
ultimately I really believe
00:16:50.47\00:16:52.88
that our sexuality
is for the sole point
00:16:52.91\00:16:54.83
of being able to
connect with God.
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So when you look at
a husband and a wife
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and the way they love each other
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and are committed to each other
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and are in a monogamous
relationship God is saying,
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"Listen, that depth
of love I want with you.
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You know, I want to
experience that with you."
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That's the same depth of
love that the Father and the Son
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and the Holy Spirit experience
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where you have
three separate persons
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but yet they are all same, one.
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You know, it's interesting
because that the world,
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they wire us in one way
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and then in order to really
understand what God's idea is,
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of course, we have to be unwired
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and then rewired
according to what God's plan
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is for our lives, so.
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The world just
throws us a curveball, man,
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and, you know, it's unfortunate
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but that this is
what we have to deal with.
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But, you know, I
think that through God
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we can have a
correct understanding
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of who we are as sexual beings
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so that we can express ourselves
appropriately in Christ.
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I'm so glad that we have a
studio audience with us today.
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And we have a question
coming from our studio audience
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so we're gonna turn
to my man in the mic
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and let us know
what's on your mind.
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Hello. My name
is Darrell Anderson.
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I'm a senior
broadcast journalism major
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here at Oakwood University
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and I have a question about--
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I hear what you all are saying
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about the
industry and how sex sells.
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For myself who's about to
go into the professional world,
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how do I keep
my Christian values
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and morals without selling
out when everything you see
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that's on
television have to do with sex?
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That was a good question.
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Yeah. Any takers?
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Well, I mean first I'm
thinking that you have to
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be rooted and grounded in who
you believe you are in Christ
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because you're going into an
industry where money is king.
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And if you want to
make quick money then sex
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or selling sex is the easy way.
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But if you want to be--
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you want to ensure that you
are grounded in who you are,
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who you believe
you are in Christ
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then you're not
allowing money to be your king
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but Christ is your king
and you want to honor Him
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in everything that you do.
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Yeah. I think obviously that's
definitely the first base.
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It's got to be found in Christ.
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The other thing I think
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will be a little more
also very practical, too,
00:18:57.73\00:19:00.86
is get to know other
people who are already,
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you know, doing just that.
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And when I say other people,
00:19:05.22\00:19:06.70
you know, maybe not
simply only other Christians
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but other Christians who
believe like you believe.
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You know, just an example,
00:19:12.52\00:19:13.89
a gentleman in my
church DeVon Franklin,
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he's a VP at Sony Pictures.
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And he's got a awesome
book called "Produced by Faith."
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And for instance his
first chapter in the book
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is pretty much dealing
with how he kept the Sabbath
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while he was working,
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you know, on the film and
those different kinds of things.
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And how he keeps his integrity
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and how you don't need to lose
your faith to be successful,
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you know, in the world.
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And I mean I'd like
to encourage with that
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because what I
don't like is the media
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only gives us one aspect.
00:19:39.80\00:19:42.57
Not only because I think
they know that's what sells
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but we don't have enough people
00:19:44.66\00:19:46.32
who have that
solid base in Christ
00:19:46.35\00:19:49.16
who are there to
maybe even influence
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what it is that's put out there.
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So I mean imagine if, you know--
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I'm not sure what
area you want to go into
00:19:55.16\00:19:56.92
but your commercials or
whatever it is start blowing up
00:19:56.95\00:19:59.98
you're saying,
"Well, wait a second,
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we don't have to be ignorant.
00:20:01.41\00:20:02.78
We don't have to be that way.
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There's a whole other audience
00:20:04.21\00:20:05.58
that we can
market to and do that.
00:20:05.61\00:20:07.63
So I would definitely
encourage you to do that
00:20:07.66\00:20:09.36
and just know that if
God is calling you to that
00:20:09.39\00:20:12.94
you don't have to
comprise to be successful.
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He'll make a way for
it for that to happen.
00:20:15.14\00:20:16.76
And I just want to
harp on that as well.
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I think that no matter
what industry you go in,
00:20:18.67\00:20:21.23
whether it's Hollywood
or media or business or law,
00:20:21.26\00:20:25.02
no matter what field,
even if you go into ministry
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you have to have the
mindset as a Christian
00:20:27.17\00:20:28.75
that I'm not gonna compromise.
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And the world they tell us that
in order to get certain places
00:20:30.32\00:20:32.67
that you have to
do certain things.
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Well, the Bible gives
us so many clear examples
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with the three Hebrew boys,
00:20:36.94\00:20:38.31
with Daniel where these
were men who were in politics
00:20:38.34\00:20:41.95
and they were like high--
00:20:41.98\00:20:43.35
Worldly places.
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Worldly places.
High in politics.
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Joseph. Joseph, you know.
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But they made a decision
00:20:47.58\00:20:48.95
that I'm not going
to compromise my faith.
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And because of that decision
God was able to use them
00:20:50.38\00:20:53.20
in certain places that
I can imagine he could use
00:20:53.23\00:20:55.89
other people who
are gonna compromise.
00:20:55.92\00:20:57.92
So I think that, man,
when we live in this world
00:20:57.95\00:21:00.14
we just have to
have a determination
00:21:00.17\00:21:01.63
that I'm not selling out.
00:21:01.66\00:21:03.39
I know who I
believe, what I believe in.
00:21:03.42\00:21:05.26
I know who I serve and
I'm gonna let Him guide me.
00:21:05.29\00:21:08.15
And if I get the
promotion, praise God.
00:21:08.18\00:21:10.01
If I don't get the
promotion, praise God,
00:21:10.04\00:21:12.18
you know, because He's
the one that orders my steps.
00:21:12.21\00:21:13.99
At the same time I do
want to call out our church
00:21:14.02\00:21:19.08
on providing
material for individual
00:21:19.11\00:21:22.00
striving for such an industry.
00:21:22.03\00:21:25.42
You asked the question earlier,
00:21:25.45\00:21:26.83
maybe this is just
bringing it around,
00:21:26.86\00:21:29.57
about what is the church's
response to the industry
00:21:29.60\00:21:33.86
that is so pervasive
in the lives of our youth,
00:21:33.89\00:21:36.71
while the church's response
should be to advertise as well.
00:21:36.74\00:21:40.88
An issue we have
though is we don't have
00:21:40.91\00:21:43.18
anything to advertise.
00:21:43.21\00:21:44.75
So the people in the world
00:21:44.78\00:21:46.15
who are walking up and
down streets with Axe on,
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yeah, they're
getting the ladies on them,
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pulling at
them, tugging on them.
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But is the married
brother having his wife
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pulling on him, tugging on him?
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Is the married sister
benefiting from a brother
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who's just trying
to be all over her?
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We have a responsibility
as God's people to show
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how fulfilling His
plan can be for our life.
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Absolutely. Yes.
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Absolutely. We
have another question.
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We're gonna take
it. Go ahead, my sister.
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Hello, my
question is since I am--
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you know, a young person
I was watching a lot of TV.
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What do you suggest for me
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who's on the other side
of the television should I,
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you know, limit what I
watch, see what I watch?
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Like what should I do as
a person who's sitting there
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watching these commercials
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and these sexual
innuendos in the commercials?
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You know, I would just,
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you know, encourage you
to just develop a filter.
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The thing is that, you know,
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because this,
it's just overwhelming.
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You know, there's things
which you can just eliminate,
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you can just kind of know,
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hey, this is
something I should not delve in.
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But just watching the--
just the course of the TV
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on everyday basis, you're
gonna be bombarded with things.
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And I think that you
just have to develop a filter
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where you
recognize and you know,
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okay, that's something that's--
what are they trying to talk?
00:23:02.39\00:23:04.95
What are they
trying to sell to me there?
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What are they trying
to expose me to there?
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And just be conscious about it,
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not just letting it
just seep on the inside
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but to watch it
through a filter.
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I would go a step further.
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The Bible's very
clear and I mentioned early
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that by beholding
we become changed.
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And so I have to
understand, okay,
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my goal in life
is to go to heaven.
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I want to reflect
the character of Christ.
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And so I need to behold that
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which will change
me into the image.
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So I can't just sit up
there and just watch anything
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and think that because I
know what they're trying to do
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that somehow it won't affect me.
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I'll never forget one
of my friends came to me.
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She called me on the phone.
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She said "Seth, I can't believe
what's going on at my job."
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I said "What?"
00:23:42.32\00:23:43.69
She said "There's
basically a love triangle
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where one person is
sleeping with another person
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who's sleeping with another
person's boyfriend and husband.
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And one person's
boyfriend comes up during lunch
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and hangs out with his wife
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and then comes
up at another lunch
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and hangs out
with his girlfriend.
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I mean he was just--
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she was just going on
about this love triangle.
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And so I was just trying
to give her some counsel.
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And after we hung up the phone,
00:24:02.16\00:24:03.53
I sat back and I
thought about it.
00:24:03.56\00:24:04.93
I said "Man, where
have I seen this before?"
00:24:04.96\00:24:06.67
And true to form I saw it
in one of the latest episodes
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of one of the latest
sitcoms that was out there
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where one person was
sleeping with another person
00:24:11.36\00:24:12.78
who's sleeping
with another person.
00:24:12.81\00:24:14.18
I said to myself,
00:24:14.21\00:24:15.58
"Wow, the devil is
really feeding us his images
00:24:15.61\00:24:18.05
and he's downloading
his message into our mind.
00:24:18.08\00:24:20.91
And because we're taking it in,
00:24:20.94\00:24:22.36
unknowingly we
then reproduce it.
00:24:22.39\00:24:24.61
But, Seth, I think
that's kind of the easy--
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I mean we--there are certain
things we absolutely know
00:24:26.77\00:24:29.59
that we probably
shouldn't be watching.
00:24:29.62\00:24:30.99
It's the
in-between. It's the in-between.
00:24:31.02\00:24:32.39
Right, so what I'm
saying is that for,
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you know, for a young person
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that just is
watching the Super Bowl
00:24:35.53\00:24:38.32
or just watching
just something regular,
00:24:38.35\00:24:40.35
there's commercials that
are constantly bombarding you.
00:24:40.38\00:24:42.95
And so what I'm saying is that
00:24:42.98\00:24:44.35
there's that first
line of defense where,
00:24:44.38\00:24:46.91
yeah, there's just some
things you know as a Christian,
00:24:46.94\00:24:49.72
as someone
that's trying to be pure
00:24:49.75\00:24:51.90
that I shouldn't be engaged in.
00:24:51.93\00:24:53.45
But then there's
just in the everyday
00:24:53.48\00:24:55.48
course of watching something,
00:24:55.51\00:24:57.33
I just think you
just have to be aware
00:24:57.36\00:24:58.91
of what the
industry's trying to do.
00:24:58.94\00:25:01.14
There's some statistics that
I saw where they were talking
00:25:01.17\00:25:03.24
about just the
billions of dollars
00:25:03.27\00:25:05.30
that are poured in to
market to young people and teens
00:25:05.33\00:25:08.02
because they know
there's a market there.
00:25:08.05\00:25:09.42
There's a lot of
money to be made.
00:25:09.45\00:25:10.82
Just be aware of
what they're trying to do.
00:25:10.85\00:25:13.45
Eliminate the obvious but
then on just watching the news
00:25:13.48\00:25:17.57
or just regular
television just be aware
00:25:17.60\00:25:19.28
that they're gonna be trying--
00:25:19.31\00:25:20.68
I guess what I'm
saying is I'm not sure
00:25:20.71\00:25:22.08
that for the
majority of people--
00:25:22.11\00:25:23.48
I know in my instance
that the obvious is so obvious.
00:25:23.51\00:25:26.59
And so I take it that we have
to even be even more intentional
00:25:26.62\00:25:30.01
about guarding the avenues.
00:25:30.04\00:25:31.41
Yet it may look
obvious that okay,
00:25:31.44\00:25:33.09
this person's
shacking up with this person.
00:25:33.12\00:25:35.10
And I shouldn't be watching it.
00:25:35.13\00:25:36.50
But I think the
average person says
00:25:36.53\00:25:37.90
"Well, this won't
affect me," you know.
00:25:37.93\00:25:39.30
And I talk to young
people all the time who say,
00:25:39.33\00:25:40.70
"It's just a sitcom.
00:25:40.73\00:25:42.10
It's just for play."
00:25:42.13\00:25:43.50
And we only
understand the impact
00:25:43.53\00:25:45.02
that the obvious
has on our life. Right.
00:25:45.05\00:25:47.97
Whether, you know--I think
those were both good points
00:25:48.00\00:25:51.52
I think whether
it's obvious or not,
00:25:51.55\00:25:53.86
whatever goes in our minds
in some way affects you. Right.
00:25:53.89\00:25:56.87
I don't care, you
know, it could be positive,
00:25:56.90\00:25:58.48
it could be negative.
00:25:58.51\00:25:59.88
Whatever you let in someway
is going to affect. It's there.
00:25:59.91\00:26:03.42
And so there has to
be-- I love that word filter.
00:26:03.45\00:26:06.42
We have to teach the
filtering, not the concept
00:26:06.45\00:26:09.80
that I know used to be
when we were growing up,
00:26:09.83\00:26:11.73
"don't go watch it here
00:26:11.76\00:26:13.26
because there's
something bad about the place."
00:26:13.29\00:26:14.68
Well, what's the content?
00:26:14.71\00:26:16.13
Whether it's at home, on your
radio, whatever, it's content.
00:26:16.16\00:26:19.23
And I think the thing--
00:26:19.26\00:26:20.63
I don't think there's anything
wrong with entertainment.
00:26:20.66\00:26:22.79
But we have to measure
what we consider entertainment
00:26:22.82\00:26:25.60
against that filter
which is going to be,
00:26:25.63\00:26:27.20
you know, the Word of God.
00:26:27.23\00:26:28.60
And I know the principle
that just got me, is it pure?
00:26:28.63\00:26:31.90
Is it holy? Is it
just? It can still be fun.
00:26:31.93\00:26:34.77
It's just helping me
get closer. In some way.
00:26:34.80\00:26:37.95
And being closer to God
doesn't necessarily always mean
00:26:37.98\00:26:40.22
it's got to be a
Bible study. Right.
00:26:40.25\00:26:41.67
You know what I mean?
00:26:41.70\00:26:43.07
I mean when I see a
holistic television show maybe
00:26:43.10\00:26:46.53
and maybe you can
thrown one out there
00:26:46.56\00:26:47.93
I mean there was
some very good moral
00:26:47.96\00:26:49.80
and you even had God thrown in
there sometimes like "The Cosby
00:26:49.83\00:26:53.04
Show." You know, there were some
things, they did show some
realism some problems but
00:26:53.07\00:26:56.26
Actually you know what,
they're trying to promote--
00:26:56.29\00:26:59.40
Yeah, this is a
interesting topic.
00:26:59.43\00:27:00.80
And, you know, we're gonna
have to keep wrestling with it.
00:27:00.83\00:27:02.91
We're gonna be here
all season long, you know.
00:27:02.94\00:27:05.14
And so we want our
audience to continue to tune in.
00:27:05.17\00:27:07.40
Unfortunately we're not
going to be able to deal with
00:27:07.43\00:27:08.80
this thing in the level
that we want to in one episode.
00:27:08.83\00:27:10.92
So I'm sorry, you've
got to come back, you know.
00:27:10.95\00:27:12.67
You've got to come
back and join us next week,
00:27:12.70\00:27:14.94
same time, same place.
00:27:14.97\00:27:16.34
And we're gonna
still be delving into it.
00:27:16.37\00:27:17.74
So we're grateful
that you joined us today
00:27:17.77\00:27:19.94
where our goal
here at "Pure Choice"
00:27:19.97\00:27:21.54
is just to really
help you make pure choices.
00:27:21.57\00:27:24.72
And so we're
thankful that you're here
00:27:24.75\00:27:26.92
and we pray that we'll
see you again. Praise God.
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