Hello and welcome. 00:00:48.76\00:00:50.13 I'm so glad you decided to join us 00:00:50.16\00:00:51.53 for this new program called "Pure Choices." 00:00:51.56\00:00:53.76 My name is Seth Yelorda and I'll be your host this season. 00:00:53.79\00:00:56.41 And what we want to do in this program is to deal 00:00:56.44\00:00:58.17 very specifically with sex and sexuality 00:00:58.20\00:01:00.78 but not in the traditional way 00:01:00.81\00:01:02.18 that you've always heard it dealt with 00:01:02.21\00:01:03.59 but in a real, practical way, 00:01:03.62\00:01:05.52 something that can be applied to your personal lives. 00:01:05.55\00:01:07.93 Now I have with me some of my colleagues 00:01:07.96\00:01:09.48 and they're going to be journeying 00:01:09.51\00:01:10.88 with us this season, trying to help us 00:01:10.91\00:01:12.53 to better understand God's ideal for our sex and sexuality 00:01:12.56\00:01:16.70 and how the world has kind of distorted it. 00:01:16.73\00:01:18.83 So I'm gonna take a moment right now 00:01:18.86\00:01:20.23 and just introduce you to these colleagues of mine. 00:01:20.26\00:01:22.01 I have here my brother Alfonzo Greene. 00:01:22.04\00:01:24.72 He pastors in Huntsville, Alabama at the First SDA Church. 00:01:24.75\00:01:30.15 I have Michael Polite. 00:01:30.18\00:01:31.66 He also serves as a pastor in Nashville, Tennessee 00:01:31.69\00:01:34.72 at the Riverside Chapel SDA Church. 00:01:34.75\00:01:37.40 On my right I have Lola Moore who also serves as the pastor 00:01:37.43\00:01:41.41 here in Huntsville at the Oakwood University Church. 00:01:41.44\00:01:45.04 And then my brother from another mother, 00:01:45.07\00:01:46.97 you know, Michael B. Kelley 00:01:47.00\00:01:48.94 who comes all the way from California. 00:01:48.97\00:01:51.35 He's the pastor of the Mount Rubidoux SDA Church 00:01:51.38\00:01:54.19 there in California. 00:01:54.22\00:01:55.98 And we're all just so glad to be with you today 00:01:56.01\00:01:59.10 and just to be able to really tackle this tough issue. 00:01:59.13\00:02:01.58 Now specifically for this-- for today in this episode 00:02:01.61\00:02:04.96 what we want to really kind of unpack 00:02:04.99\00:02:06.57 is sex in the entertainment industry. 00:02:06.60\00:02:10.17 We know that when we look around at the entertainment industry 00:02:10.20\00:02:13.03 they are constantly kind of filling our minds 00:02:13.06\00:02:15.67 and the airwaves and the television, 00:02:15.70\00:02:18.43 the internet with sex and sexuality 00:02:18.46\00:02:21.02 and we know that sex sells. 00:02:21.05\00:02:22.97 In fact, I recently saw a commercial about Axe and how-- 00:02:23.00\00:02:28.88 you've seen Axe before. 00:02:28.91\00:02:30.28 They're talking about using sex to sell this deodorant. 00:02:30.31\00:02:33.49 What do you all think? 00:02:33.52\00:02:35.67 I mean you see this thing and clearly-- 00:02:35.70\00:02:38.04 I mean it was very clear that sex is-- 00:02:38.07\00:02:39.96 I mean they're using sex to sell deodorant, you know. 00:02:39.99\00:02:43.81 Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about it. 00:02:43.84\00:02:45.21 Well, I think it's a little bit-- Obviously we know that 00:02:45.24\00:02:47.74 sex as we said earlier was gonna sell. 00:02:47.77\00:02:50.52 But it's not just selling sex 00:02:50.55\00:02:52.34 but I think the thing about the Axe commercial, 00:02:52.37\00:02:54.60 even the one that we just saw is what it is selling about sex. 00:02:54.63\00:02:58.14 You know, it's one thing to use sex 00:02:58.17\00:02:59.54 to just get me to buy the product 00:02:59.57\00:03:01.51 but there's more that they're trying to say 00:03:01.54\00:03:03.06 about not just the product but I think about sex itself. 00:03:03.09\00:03:06.63 Because in the video it will be one thing if-- 00:03:06.66\00:03:09.52 in the commercial if the guy, 00:03:09.55\00:03:11.17 you know, found his soul-mate as a result of Axe. 00:03:11.20\00:03:14.52 I might be even a little more, you know, comfortable with that. 00:03:14.55\00:03:17.24 But what it's saying is that sex is not just something 00:03:17.27\00:03:22.07 that is to be experienced or all this with one individual 00:03:22.10\00:03:25.40 but, you know, there's a flock of women and different women. 00:03:25.43\00:03:28.42 I don't think it's just whether the industry is selling sex 00:03:28.45\00:03:31.66 but exactly what are they saying about sex. 00:03:31.69\00:03:34.57 I mean when you look at this, 00:03:34.60\00:03:35.97 the industry is taking something that-- 00:03:36.00\00:03:38.63 you know, all of us were sexual beings. 00:03:38.66\00:03:40.56 You know, God created us sexual beings. 00:03:40.59\00:03:42.52 And so the industry knowing that, 00:03:42.55\00:03:43.92 they know that we are inclined to sexuality, 00:03:43.95\00:03:46.28 to sexual expression, you know, 00:03:46.31\00:03:47.98 that's all the fundamental need that we have. 00:03:48.01\00:03:49.57 And so they take that and they package it in such a way 00:03:49.60\00:03:52.00 where they can now sell their products by using that. 00:03:52.03\00:03:55.18 Does that make sense? Yeah. 00:03:55.21\00:03:56.58 Very much so. And I think Axe takes it to another level. 00:03:56.61\00:04:00.30 In the commercial that they released 00:04:00.33\00:04:03.05 soon after the Chocolate Man they have one 00:04:03.08\00:04:05.22 that's popularly known as Angels Fall 00:04:05.25\00:04:08.68 where the young man sprays himself 00:04:08.71\00:04:10.24 and all of a sudden you got 00:04:10.27\00:04:11.64 these angels falling like meteors. 00:04:11.67\00:04:14.16 And they all flock to him because he has on this spray. 00:04:14.19\00:04:17.51 And then at the end it says 00:04:17.54\00:04:19.56 "Axe links spray even can make angels' fall." 00:04:19.59\00:04:24.59 So now we're looking at okay, what is it telling me about sex? 00:04:24.62\00:04:26.86 Well, it's telling me that 00:04:26.89\00:04:28.47 not only will this spray help me get women 00:04:28.50\00:04:31.06 but it will also help me up my virgin count. 00:04:31.09\00:04:34.59 It will help me get those women 00:04:34.62\00:04:36.35 that are trying to remain clean, pure, all of that good stuff. 00:04:36.38\00:04:40.19 So that commercial takes it a step further. Right. 00:04:40.22\00:04:43.36 Yeah, I mean it all gets into the-- 00:04:43.39\00:04:44.76 I was reading about advertising and marketing 00:04:44.79\00:04:46.82 and it talked about how they try to find 00:04:46.85\00:04:48.78 points of weakness in men, women and kids 00:04:48.81\00:04:52.74 and then they use that weakness to advertise 00:04:52.77\00:04:55.37 and sell their product. 00:04:55.40\00:04:56.77 I mean if we'd just be real though 00:04:56.80\00:04:58.27 you could be bathed in Axe 00:04:58.30\00:05:00.74 but if you have like no game, no skill, no swag, 00:05:00.77\00:05:05.01 I mean you can take a shower in some Axe, 00:05:05.04\00:05:07.17 it is not going to help you out. 00:05:07.20\00:05:08.86 So they're focusing on that point of weakness 00:05:08.89\00:05:11.83 and selling their product. 00:05:11.86\00:05:13.23 It's right because when you look at these commercials 00:05:13.26\00:05:14.63 they are not-- they are not spraying Axe 00:05:14.66\00:05:16.99 on some dude who's like 6' 5", 00:05:17.02\00:05:19.72 you know, 250, ripped up. 00:05:19.75\00:05:21.89 Now these are like skinny, short, it's nothing wrong 00:05:21.92\00:05:24.80 with skinny, short people but they're saying that-- 00:05:24.83\00:05:26.25 Don't hit on the skinny, short people-- 00:05:26.28\00:05:30.21 Touche. Touche. 00:05:30.24\00:05:31.89 But it seems like Axe will help you compensate. 00:05:31.92\00:05:34.09 It will help you make up the difference 00:05:34.12\00:05:35.49 where you just naturally lack. 00:05:35.52\00:05:36.89 So you might not be able to get women on your own 00:05:36.92\00:05:38.51 but with this spray-- 00:05:38.54\00:05:39.91 Put that spray on. 00:05:39.94\00:05:41.31 It will help you. 00:05:41.34\00:05:42.71 You know, but it's not just Axe but-- 00:05:42.74\00:05:44.11 you know, I remember back in the day, 00:05:44.14\00:05:45.51 you know, the Herbal Essence commercials-- 00:05:45.54\00:05:46.91 I don't know if you all ever seen those. 00:05:46.94\00:05:48.31 Oh, my goodness. 00:05:48.34\00:05:49.71 You know, the Herbal Essence, 00:05:49.74\00:05:51.11 what you have, this woman who puts this shampoo 00:05:51.14\00:05:52.51 and she just goes wild. 00:05:52.54\00:05:53.91 I mean what's the--I mean what is that message telling us? 00:05:53.94\00:05:57.00 What's the--and not just what it is telling us 00:05:57.03\00:05:58.40 but what's the problem with this message? 00:05:58.43\00:06:00.17 I mean usually the object of the Herbal Essence 00:06:00.20\00:06:04.43 effect is a woman, 00:06:04.46\00:06:06.52 probably a woman who's in her middle thirties 00:06:06.55\00:06:08.83 or something like that. 00:06:08.86\00:06:10.23 Traditionally in our society coming up to this day 00:06:10.26\00:06:14.26 we've had a bit of prudishness amongst women 00:06:14.29\00:06:17.48 with regard to sexuality 00:06:17.51\00:06:19.37 and as I look at the Axe commercial, 00:06:19.40\00:06:21.00 I'm looking at Herbal Essences. 00:06:21.03\00:06:22.49 First off they're telling us, "loosen up. 00:06:22.52\00:06:24.81 It's not that deep." 00:06:24.84\00:06:26.21 You know what I mean? 00:06:26.24\00:06:27.61 And then secondly for a gender 00:06:27.64\00:06:30.38 who is traditionally depleted of sexual pleasure, 00:06:30.41\00:06:36.22 if you will-- the guys usually get theirs 00:06:36.25\00:06:38.47 but women don't get theirs-- 00:06:38.50\00:06:40.10 Herbal Essence is trying to say, 00:06:40.13\00:06:41.50 you know, go get yours, too. 00:06:41.53\00:06:42.90 You can get yours. 00:06:42.93\00:06:44.30 So when we think about women's lib 00:06:44.33\00:06:46.40 or think about women's liberation 00:06:46.43\00:06:48.65 both these commercials are saying to me, 00:06:48.68\00:06:50.43 "It's not that deep. 00:06:50.46\00:06:51.94 You need to get pleased as well." 00:06:51.97\00:06:54.06 And so I'm thinking that this is like 00:06:54.09\00:06:55.83 a individualistic type selfishness 00:06:55.86\00:06:59.52 that is-- it's teaching me-- 00:06:59.55\00:07:01.07 What's the problem with this message? 00:07:01.10\00:07:02.52 Well, you know, the thing is what's happening is 00:07:02.55\00:07:06.07 all of our young people because, you know, 00:07:06.10\00:07:07.82 the stat say we're watching 00:07:07.85\00:07:09.29 an average of between 6 and 8 hours of TV almost every day. 00:07:09.32\00:07:13.47 And so in between what we're watching, 00:07:13.50\00:07:15.55 usually even the TV shows themselves 00:07:15.58\00:07:17.85 are carrying with them these inappropriate messages 00:07:17.88\00:07:21.57 concerning sex or having some truth about sex mixed up in, 00:07:21.60\00:07:27.01 you know, some non-truths. 00:07:27.04\00:07:28.41 But not only that but in between the shows 00:07:28.44\00:07:31.40 you have the commercials. 00:07:31.43\00:07:32.80 So I think what the biggest issue is 00:07:32.83\00:07:34.79 we are being bombarded through the media, 00:07:34.82\00:07:37.32 which we all are very connected to, 00:07:37.35\00:07:39.22 whether it's our cell phone, iPad, with an ideology. 00:07:39.25\00:07:42.77 And what's happening is if the media is so successful 00:07:42.80\00:07:46.03 in the ideology what else are the kids, 00:07:46.06\00:07:50.09 the young people, even adults, 00:07:50.12\00:07:52.01 of course, what are they getting? 00:07:52.04\00:07:53.41 Because they're getting that one aspect 00:07:53.44\00:07:54.81 and that's where, you know, 00:07:54.84\00:07:56.21 I think this show, you know, this program in the church 00:07:56.24\00:07:59.18 has to be able to combat. 00:07:59.21\00:08:01.09 Okay, you're getting bombarded with this message 00:08:01.12\00:08:03.17 but here's another message, you know, about that. 00:08:03.20\00:08:05.65 So what is the message that we're getting 00:08:05.68\00:08:07.46 from media concerning sex? 00:08:07.49\00:08:10.58 Because it's funny because, you know, 00:08:10.61\00:08:12.74 no matter how strong we may feel that we are, 00:08:12.77\00:08:17.09 you know, the Bible's very clear 00:08:17.12\00:08:18.49 that by beholding you become changed. 00:08:18.52\00:08:20.44 And so if I'm sitting in front of television, 00:08:20.47\00:08:21.84 I'm watching this stuff. 00:08:21.87\00:08:23.24 I'm listening to it on the radio. 00:08:23.27\00:08:24.64 You know, I got it on my iPad, on my iPod. 00:08:24.67\00:08:26.54 I'm looking at it in the movie theater. 00:08:26.57\00:08:28.03 If I'm listening to this it's having an affect on me 00:08:28.06\00:08:30.31 whether I want it to or not. 00:08:30.34\00:08:31.74 So the question is what ultimately is the message 00:08:31.77\00:08:34.69 that the world is telling us about sex through the media. 00:08:34.72\00:08:37.99 I think the first thing that jumps off for me 00:08:38.02\00:08:39.74 is that everybody is doing it. Okay. 00:08:39.77\00:08:41.65 As you look at the commercials there's a wide array of people 00:08:41.68\00:08:45.06 who are engaged either in some form of foreplay 00:08:45.09\00:08:48.96 or actual full on. And so-- 00:08:48.99\00:08:50.73 Well, if you're not doing it, if everyone's not doing it, 00:08:50.76\00:08:52.58 something's wrong with you if you're not doing it. 00:08:52.61\00:08:53.98 Right, so yeah, if I'm not doing it 00:08:54.01\00:08:55.47 there's something wrong with me. 00:08:55.50\00:08:57.48 I need to get with the program, you know. 00:08:57.51\00:08:59.49 And this product can help me get with the program. 00:08:59.52\00:09:02.34 You know what I'm saying? 00:09:02.37\00:09:03.74 Another one is that there's a possibility 00:09:03.77\00:09:05.91 to achieve pleasure without refinement. 00:09:05.94\00:09:08.84 So you have a lot of people I think that look at God's law 00:09:08.87\00:09:12.86 as something that's keeping me from pleasure. 00:09:12.89\00:09:15.32 It's like prolonged reward. 00:09:15.35\00:09:18.72 I have to wait to get to heaven to live in that perfect utopia. 00:09:18.75\00:09:22.60 So what God requires is no, 00:09:22.63\00:09:24.22 there's a time of refinement and then you get pleasure. 00:09:24.25\00:09:27.17 When you say refinement what do you mean? 00:09:27.20\00:09:29.02 There's a time where you have to be reformed, rebuilt, 00:09:29.05\00:09:32.75 born again is the phrase that is out there 00:09:32.78\00:09:35.27 but really He has to take some time to shaping you 00:09:35.30\00:09:38.53 and to fashion you and that is uncomfortable. 00:09:38.56\00:09:41.80 So if we look at sexuality as something to be engaged in, 00:09:41.83\00:09:45.53 in marriage you're saying, no, 00:09:45.56\00:09:47.37 first you have to go through 00:09:47.40\00:09:48.77 the refinement of building that relationship, 00:09:48.80\00:09:50.30 finding a soul-mate, all of that, then pleasure comes. 00:09:50.33\00:09:52.97 The world's like, "Oh, bunk the refinement. 00:09:53.00\00:09:54.72 Let's go to pleasure." 00:09:54.75\00:09:56.12 Let' spray on some Axe. 00:09:56.15\00:09:57.52 And that's the important thing because within 30 seconds 00:09:57.55\00:10:00.31 you're getting the message-- 00:10:00.34\00:10:01.71 you're getting a complete story that really should take years-- 00:10:01.74\00:10:04.94 Years to build. 00:10:04.97\00:10:06.34 Lifetime to build but I see it quick 00:10:06.37\00:10:07.74 and when I'm bombarded with that, 00:10:07.77\00:10:09.14 what the media, their success really is I believe 00:10:09.17\00:10:11.49 is getting us to see something so much 00:10:11.52\00:10:13.86 that we feel we have to have it right now. 00:10:13.89\00:10:16.92 And there's a battle with that 00:10:16.95\00:10:18.32 because not only am I seeing that 00:10:18.35\00:10:19.78 but my body actually at certain times 00:10:19.81\00:10:21.93 as I'm growing up is responding to it and saying, 00:10:21.96\00:10:24.59 "Yeah, I do," because we were made 00:10:24.62\00:10:25.99 and we're not afraid to say as the Bible makes it very clear 00:10:26.02\00:10:28.51 that we were made to create. 00:10:28.54\00:10:30.66 There's a desire in us to do that. 00:10:30.69\00:10:32.50 And what they--what they're doing to me 00:10:32.53\00:10:34.15 is I think they play off of that and let's not-- 00:10:34.18\00:10:36.99 I don't think we should kid ourselves into thinking 00:10:37.02\00:10:38.39 they don't look at those things and say, 00:10:38.42\00:10:41.12 you know, yes, of course, 00:10:41.15\00:10:42.52 we believe in that, maybe even some of them do understand 00:10:42.55\00:10:44.95 we're created this way. 00:10:44.98\00:10:46.53 And so we can just keep pushing it, 00:10:46.56\00:10:47.98 pushing it, pushing it 00:10:48.01\00:10:49.38 and it no longer becomes something 00:10:49.41\00:10:50.78 that we should wait for but I've got to get it, 00:10:50.81\00:10:52.51 get it right now because media is all about fast. 00:10:52.54\00:10:54.72 It's all about getting fast, fast, fast. 00:10:54.75\00:10:56.12 And, you know--and I was just going to add on to that, 00:10:56.15\00:10:57.96 that, you know, it's just with, 00:10:57.99\00:10:59.81 you know, that everyone is searching for fulfillment 00:10:59.84\00:11:02.74 and it's just kind of a shortcut 00:11:02.77\00:11:04.64 so I can actually just get fulfillment instantly 00:11:04.67\00:11:07.65 by just engaging in this type of activity 00:11:07.68\00:11:10.97 as opposed to just the time, just putting in the effort, 00:11:11.00\00:11:15.96 making all the necessary deposits 00:11:15.99\00:11:18.94 so that I can actually have the truth 00:11:18.97\00:11:20.78 So it's just saying let's skip everything. 00:11:20.81\00:11:22.90 Let's skip all of the necessary time 00:11:22.93\00:11:25.42 it takes to really build a relationship 00:11:25.45\00:11:27.24 and actually have commitment and just-- 00:11:27.27\00:11:29.20 you can just have it right now. Yeah. 00:11:29.23\00:11:31.12 You know, it's interesting, I think that, 00:11:31.15\00:11:32.88 you know, behind that message 00:11:32.91\00:11:35.77 it's almost like the world is telling us that your sexuality, 00:11:35.80\00:11:40.41 your desire, your urges or whatever 00:11:40.44\00:11:43.82 that it's for one purpose 00:11:43.85\00:11:45.86 and that's just to satisfy your own sexual urges, 00:11:45.89\00:11:48.05 your own sexual pleasure. 00:11:48.08\00:11:49.45 So your sexuality is for your sexual pleasure. 00:11:49.48\00:11:51.75 And they're telling us that listen 00:11:51.78\00:11:53.21 there's nothing wrong with you being pleased. 00:11:53.24\00:11:54.71 There's nothing wrong with you going out and getting yours. 00:11:54.74\00:11:56.44 There's nothing wrong with, 00:11:56.47\00:11:57.84 you know, you having sexual escapades or hooking up, 00:11:57.87\00:12:00.31 one-night stands or however you want to slice it. 00:12:00.34\00:12:05.07 And it's interesting how the world, 00:12:05.10\00:12:06.73 they sell sex within the context of singles 00:12:06.76\00:12:10.65 but they don't try to sell sex within the context of marriage. 00:12:10.68\00:12:13.35 Right. I mean, you notice that? 00:12:13.38\00:12:15.40 I mean it's a powerful point 00:12:15.43\00:12:16.80 because what they really almost show is that 00:12:16.83\00:12:19.30 you have more sex before marriage 00:12:19.33\00:12:21.29 and when you get married it just all stops, you know. 00:12:21.32\00:12:23.74 That's what he tries to do 00:12:24.74\00:12:28.69 You want to be Mary Magdalene before you get married 00:12:28.72\00:12:31.27 and then become Mary, the mother of Jesus. 00:12:31.30\00:12:33.87 But I remember-- I know we were talking-- 00:12:37.44\00:12:40.03 I think, Lola, you were mentioning 00:12:40.06\00:12:42.71 the idea of what they say. 00:12:42.74\00:12:44.15 You know, the idea of sex outside marriage is better-- 00:12:44.18\00:12:48.69 we don't promote that in marriage. 00:12:48.72\00:12:50.09 But there was something I remember you were saying 00:12:50.12\00:12:51.49 about how the longer couples something-- 00:12:51.52\00:12:53.82 something along those lines. 00:12:53.85\00:12:55.22 Oh, okay, because statistically-- 00:12:55.25\00:12:56.62 They don't promote that. 00:12:56.65\00:12:58.02 Right. Statistically it's shown that sex is something 00:12:58.05\00:13:00.73 that grows better with age, kind of like, 00:13:00.76\00:13:02.77 you know, other products, getting better with age. 00:13:02.80\00:13:06.43 And so-- Thank you, Lord. 00:13:06.46\00:13:07.83 Yeah. I wasn't sure if I should say that. 00:13:07.86\00:13:10.04 So the longer a couple is together, 00:13:10.07\00:13:13.37 the longer a married couple is together, 00:13:13.40\00:13:16.43 the better it gets. 00:13:16.46\00:13:17.83 Better the sex gets. 00:13:17.86\00:13:19.23 But what the media tells us is that 00:13:19.26\00:13:20.79 it's the instant gratification of that first time, 00:13:20.82\00:13:23.33 a new person, a new escapade with someone else, 00:13:23.36\00:13:26.72 you know, that variety is what makes it great. 00:13:26.75\00:13:29.74 What we find when we do our research 00:13:29.77\00:13:31.89 that it's the longer we have one partner and we've learned 00:13:31.92\00:13:34.14 from one another that it actually gets better. 00:13:34.17\00:13:37.40 And based on the media standpoint 00:13:37.43\00:13:39.66 they need to make us think opposite than that 00:13:39.69\00:13:42.31 because that doesn't sell. 00:13:42.34\00:13:44.15 The whole sex industry has to make money. 00:13:44.18\00:13:47.04 So a lot of the things that they're showing us 00:13:47.07\00:13:49.52 in the entertainment industry is not 00:13:49.55\00:13:51.32 because they themselves believe in it. 00:13:51.35\00:13:53.84 We see this all the time with certain CEOs of companies 00:13:53.87\00:13:56.55 that are selling products that they don't use 00:13:56.58\00:13:58.95 because they understand the negative effect. 00:13:58.98\00:14:01.64 But they understand, no, if I sell it this way 00:14:01.67\00:14:04.75 I'll make a lot of money. 00:14:04.78\00:14:06.15 If I'm just with this partner for 20 years 00:14:06.18\00:14:08.74 I'm not going to make money, 00:14:08.77\00:14:10.14 just like if I can wear these pair of shoes for 20 years 00:14:10.17\00:14:12.42 the company is not making no money. 00:14:12.45\00:14:13.82 But, you know, the old adage goes, 00:14:13.85\00:14:15.24 "Forbidden fruit is all the more sweet." 00:14:15.27\00:14:17.35 And so having something that I can have is not very exciting 00:14:17.38\00:14:22.51 but getting something that I'm not supposed to have, 00:14:22.54\00:14:24.94 getting something that's supposed 00:14:24.97\00:14:26.34 to be out of my reach, that's what sells. 00:14:26.37\00:14:28.70 And that's why the media will go with that 00:14:28.73\00:14:30.60 because it's not really something 00:14:30.63\00:14:32.00 you're supposed to have 00:14:32.03\00:14:33.44 but it's sweeter because it's forbidden, if you will. 00:14:33.47\00:14:36.12 Mm-hmm, that's good. 00:14:36.15\00:14:37.52 So what then is-- 00:14:37.55\00:14:39.33 you know, we know that we're sexual beings. 00:14:39.36\00:14:40.89 We were born this way. 00:14:40.92\00:14:43.33 We're wired to relate to each other based on our sexuality. 00:14:43.36\00:14:47.66 So I'm a man and so I'm going to relate to the world as a man. 00:14:47.69\00:14:52.00 And as a man I have certain urges and desires 00:14:52.04\00:14:55.64 that the world plays on to get me to buy certain products. 00:14:55.67\00:14:57.93 And they're telling me-- 00:14:57.96\00:14:59.33 they're sending me a message that says, 00:14:59.36\00:15:00.73 basically, you're a man, you know. 00:15:00.76\00:15:02.43 You deserve to get yours, you know. 00:15:02.46\00:15:04.12 It's my right, especially if my wife doesn't want 00:15:04.15\00:15:06.20 to give me any it's my right to go get some 00:15:06.23\00:15:08.36 wherever I can get it from. 00:15:08.39\00:15:09.76 So that's what the world is saying. 00:15:09.79\00:15:11.21 What then is the opposite message? 00:15:11.24\00:15:13.33 What then should the--what should the church be saying? 00:15:13.36\00:15:15.12 I mean why did God-- 00:15:15.15\00:15:16.95 you know, what's the point of our sexuality? 00:15:16.98\00:15:18.65 Why did God create us as sexual beings? 00:15:18.68\00:15:21.58 Yeah, well, I finished this somewhere along, 00:15:21.61\00:15:24.60 you know, those lines. 00:15:24.63\00:15:26.00 The topic is what God has called us for even in our sexuality. 00:15:26.03\00:15:29.33 I love the name of the program, is to be pure. 00:15:29.36\00:15:32.65 I mean even in our sexuality we're to be pure. 00:15:32.68\00:15:34.94 You know, Paul tells us in Philippians, 00:15:34.97\00:15:36.93 you know, whatsoever is good, whatsoever is pure, 00:15:36.96\00:15:39.55 whatsoever is holy think on these things. 00:15:39.58\00:15:42.56 And so while we are getting the desire from the media 00:15:42.59\00:15:47.59 we got to understand that 00:15:47.62\00:15:48.99 when that kind of stuff gets in our minds, 00:15:49.02\00:15:51.05 even all the time if I'm reckless-- 00:15:51.08\00:15:52.45 I want to be clear. 00:15:52.48\00:15:53.85 Some folk, I think, may be sitting at home thinking, 00:15:53.88\00:15:55.53 "Okay, well, I'm not having sex. 00:15:55.56\00:15:56.93 So this does not apply to me." 00:15:56.96\00:15:58.33 But what you're watching in this media 00:15:58.36\00:16:01.03 is not contributing to your purity 00:16:01.06\00:16:03.04 which is what Christ is really after. 00:16:03.07\00:16:04.89 He's not after you just keeping out of bed. 00:16:04.92\00:16:06.30 As a matter of fact the Message Bible 00:16:06.33\00:16:08.15 where Christ says don't think you've preserved 00:16:08.18\00:16:10.64 your virtue by staying out of bed. 00:16:10.67\00:16:14.20 You know, those leering looks that nobody notices, 00:16:14.23\00:16:17.19 those also are corrupt, too. 00:16:17.22\00:16:18.59 That's, you know, in the Message Bible 00:16:18.62\00:16:20.26 when Jesus is speaking the beatitudes. 00:16:20.29\00:16:21.80 So I think the thing is 00:16:21.83\00:16:23.60 we've got to start to replace that 00:16:23.63\00:16:26.64 which the media is giving us in our minds 00:16:26.67\00:16:28.91 with other things that are pure. 00:16:28.94\00:16:30.75 And I think it's just a principle 00:16:30.78\00:16:32.61 that should apply across the board. 00:16:32.64\00:16:34.01 Whatsoever is pure, whatsoever is holy, 00:16:34.04\00:16:35.41 those are the things we've got to go ahead and think. 00:16:35.44\00:16:37.57 It's crazy, man. 00:16:37.60\00:16:38.97 The world literally just jacks us up. 00:16:39.00\00:16:40.91 I mean from birth they're just really getting us-- 00:16:40.94\00:16:43.30 they're really-- they socialize us to believe 00:16:43.34\00:16:46.49 that my sexuality is all about my sexuality, 00:16:46.52\00:16:50.44 me being pleased when ultimately I really believe 00:16:50.47\00:16:52.88 that our sexuality is for the sole point 00:16:52.91\00:16:54.83 of being able to connect with God. 00:16:54.86\00:16:56.52 So when you look at a husband and a wife 00:16:56.55\00:16:57.94 and the way they love each other 00:16:57.97\00:16:59.34 and are committed to each other 00:16:59.37\00:17:01.40 and are in a monogamous relationship God is saying, 00:17:01.43\00:17:03.35 "Listen, that depth of love I want with you. 00:17:03.38\00:17:06.21 You know, I want to experience that with you." 00:17:06.24\00:17:07.63 That's the same depth of love that the Father and the Son 00:17:07.66\00:17:10.43 and the Holy Spirit experience 00:17:10.46\00:17:11.83 where you have three separate persons 00:17:11.86\00:17:13.90 but yet they are all same, one. 00:17:13.93\00:17:15.97 You know, it's interesting because that the world, 00:17:16.00\00:17:17.81 they wire us in one way 00:17:17.84\00:17:19.21 and then in order to really understand what God's idea is, 00:17:19.24\00:17:21.85 of course, we have to be unwired 00:17:21.88\00:17:23.25 and then rewired according to what God's plan 00:17:23.28\00:17:24.82 is for our lives, so. 00:17:24.85\00:17:26.22 The world just throws us a curveball, man, 00:17:26.25\00:17:27.99 and, you know, it's unfortunate 00:17:28.02\00:17:29.39 but that this is what we have to deal with. 00:17:29.42\00:17:30.79 But, you know, I think that through God 00:17:30.82\00:17:32.19 we can have a correct understanding 00:17:32.22\00:17:33.59 of who we are as sexual beings 00:17:33.62\00:17:35.53 so that we can express ourselves appropriately in Christ. 00:17:35.56\00:17:38.73 I'm so glad that we have a studio audience with us today. 00:17:38.76\00:17:40.58 And we have a question coming from our studio audience 00:17:40.61\00:17:42.22 so we're gonna turn to my man in the mic 00:17:42.25\00:17:44.13 and let us know what's on your mind. 00:17:44.16\00:17:46.79 Hello. My name is Darrell Anderson. 00:17:46.82\00:17:49.38 I'm a senior broadcast journalism major 00:17:49.41\00:17:51.53 here at Oakwood University 00:17:51.56\00:17:52.93 and I have a question about-- 00:17:52.96\00:17:55.73 I hear what you all are saying 00:17:55.76\00:17:57.13 about the industry and how sex sells. 00:17:57.16\00:17:59.62 For myself who's about to go into the professional world, 00:17:59.65\00:18:02.71 how do I keep my Christian values 00:18:02.74\00:18:06.75 and morals without selling out when everything you see 00:18:06.78\00:18:10.65 that's on television have to do with sex? 00:18:10.68\00:18:13.42 That was a good question. 00:18:13.45\00:18:14.82 Yeah. Any takers? 00:18:14.85\00:18:16.22 Well, I mean first I'm thinking that you have to 00:18:16.25\00:18:20.11 be rooted and grounded in who you believe you are in Christ 00:18:20.14\00:18:25.01 because you're going into an industry where money is king. 00:18:25.04\00:18:29.49 And if you want to make quick money then sex 00:18:29.52\00:18:32.67 or selling sex is the easy way. 00:18:32.70\00:18:35.22 But if you want to be-- 00:18:35.25\00:18:37.91 you want to ensure that you are grounded in who you are, 00:18:37.94\00:18:42.32 who you believe you are in Christ 00:18:42.35\00:18:44.59 then you're not allowing money to be your king 00:18:44.62\00:18:47.24 but Christ is your king and you want to honor Him 00:18:47.27\00:18:49.19 in everything that you do. 00:18:49.22\00:18:51.57 Yeah. I think obviously that's definitely the first base. 00:18:51.60\00:18:54.90 It's got to be found in Christ. 00:18:54.93\00:18:56.30 The other thing I think 00:18:56.33\00:18:57.70 will be a little more also very practical, too, 00:18:57.73\00:19:00.86 is get to know other people who are already, 00:19:00.89\00:19:03.79 you know, doing just that. 00:19:03.82\00:19:05.19 And when I say other people, 00:19:05.22\00:19:06.70 you know, maybe not simply only other Christians 00:19:06.73\00:19:09.94 but other Christians who believe like you believe. 00:19:09.97\00:19:12.49 You know, just an example, 00:19:12.52\00:19:13.89 a gentleman in my church DeVon Franklin, 00:19:13.92\00:19:15.29 he's a VP at Sony Pictures. 00:19:15.32\00:19:17.26 And he's got a awesome book called "Produced by Faith." 00:19:17.29\00:19:19.98 And for instance his first chapter in the book 00:19:20.01\00:19:22.51 is pretty much dealing with how he kept the Sabbath 00:19:22.54\00:19:24.65 while he was working, 00:19:24.68\00:19:26.05 you know, on the film and those different kinds of things. 00:19:26.08\00:19:27.70 And how he keeps his integrity 00:19:27.73\00:19:30.21 and how you don't need to lose your faith to be successful, 00:19:30.24\00:19:33.63 you know, in the world. 00:19:33.66\00:19:35.03 And I mean I'd like to encourage with that 00:19:35.06\00:19:36.83 because what I don't like is the media 00:19:36.86\00:19:39.77 only gives us one aspect. 00:19:39.80\00:19:42.57 Not only because I think they know that's what sells 00:19:42.60\00:19:44.63 but we don't have enough people 00:19:44.66\00:19:46.32 who have that solid base in Christ 00:19:46.35\00:19:49.16 who are there to maybe even influence 00:19:49.19\00:19:51.20 what it is that's put out there. 00:19:51.23\00:19:53.57 So I mean imagine if, you know-- 00:19:53.60\00:19:55.13 I'm not sure what area you want to go into 00:19:55.16\00:19:56.92 but your commercials or whatever it is start blowing up 00:19:56.95\00:19:59.98 you're saying, "Well, wait a second, 00:20:00.01\00:20:01.38 we don't have to be ignorant. 00:20:01.41\00:20:02.78 We don't have to be that way. 00:20:02.81\00:20:04.18 There's a whole other audience 00:20:04.21\00:20:05.58 that we can market to and do that. 00:20:05.61\00:20:07.63 So I would definitely encourage you to do that 00:20:07.66\00:20:09.36 and just know that if God is calling you to that 00:20:09.39\00:20:12.94 you don't have to comprise to be successful. 00:20:12.97\00:20:15.11 He'll make a way for it for that to happen. 00:20:15.14\00:20:16.76 And I just want to harp on that as well. 00:20:16.79\00:20:18.64 I think that no matter what industry you go in, 00:20:18.67\00:20:21.23 whether it's Hollywood or media or business or law, 00:20:21.26\00:20:25.02 no matter what field, even if you go into ministry 00:20:25.05\00:20:27.14 you have to have the mindset as a Christian 00:20:27.17\00:20:28.75 that I'm not gonna compromise. 00:20:28.78\00:20:30.29 And the world they tell us that in order to get certain places 00:20:30.32\00:20:32.67 that you have to do certain things. 00:20:32.70\00:20:34.18 Well, the Bible gives us so many clear examples 00:20:34.21\00:20:36.91 with the three Hebrew boys, 00:20:36.94\00:20:38.31 with Daniel where these were men who were in politics 00:20:38.34\00:20:41.95 and they were like high-- 00:20:41.98\00:20:43.35 Worldly places. 00:20:43.38\00:20:44.75 Worldly places. High in politics. 00:20:44.78\00:20:46.15 Joseph. Joseph, you know. 00:20:46.18\00:20:47.55 But they made a decision 00:20:47.58\00:20:48.95 that I'm not going to compromise my faith. 00:20:48.98\00:20:50.35 And because of that decision God was able to use them 00:20:50.38\00:20:53.20 in certain places that I can imagine he could use 00:20:53.23\00:20:55.89 other people who are gonna compromise. 00:20:55.92\00:20:57.92 So I think that, man, when we live in this world 00:20:57.95\00:21:00.14 we just have to have a determination 00:21:00.17\00:21:01.63 that I'm not selling out. 00:21:01.66\00:21:03.39 I know who I believe, what I believe in. 00:21:03.42\00:21:05.26 I know who I serve and I'm gonna let Him guide me. 00:21:05.29\00:21:08.15 And if I get the promotion, praise God. 00:21:08.18\00:21:10.01 If I don't get the promotion, praise God, 00:21:10.04\00:21:12.18 you know, because He's the one that orders my steps. 00:21:12.21\00:21:13.99 At the same time I do want to call out our church 00:21:14.02\00:21:19.08 on providing material for individual 00:21:19.11\00:21:22.00 striving for such an industry. 00:21:22.03\00:21:25.42 You asked the question earlier, 00:21:25.45\00:21:26.83 maybe this is just bringing it around, 00:21:26.86\00:21:29.57 about what is the church's response to the industry 00:21:29.60\00:21:33.86 that is so pervasive in the lives of our youth, 00:21:33.89\00:21:36.71 while the church's response should be to advertise as well. 00:21:36.74\00:21:40.88 An issue we have though is we don't have 00:21:40.91\00:21:43.18 anything to advertise. 00:21:43.21\00:21:44.75 So the people in the world 00:21:44.78\00:21:46.15 who are walking up and down streets with Axe on, 00:21:46.18\00:21:48.36 yeah, they're getting the ladies on them, 00:21:48.39\00:21:50.43 pulling at them, tugging on them. 00:21:50.46\00:21:52.31 But is the married brother having his wife 00:21:52.34\00:21:57.64 pulling on him, tugging on him? 00:21:57.67\00:21:59.16 Is the married sister benefiting from a brother 00:21:59.19\00:22:02.45 who's just trying to be all over her? 00:22:02.48\00:22:04.57 We have a responsibility as God's people to show 00:22:04.60\00:22:08.38 how fulfilling His plan can be for our life. 00:22:08.41\00:22:12.09 Absolutely. Yes. 00:22:12.12\00:22:13.49 Absolutely. We have another question. 00:22:13.52\00:22:15.76 We're gonna take it. Go ahead, my sister. 00:22:15.79\00:22:17.64 Hello, my question is since I am-- 00:22:17.67\00:22:20.21 you know, a young person I was watching a lot of TV. 00:22:20.24\00:22:22.58 What do you suggest for me 00:22:22.61\00:22:23.98 who's on the other side of the television should I, 00:22:24.01\00:22:26.57 you know, limit what I watch, see what I watch? 00:22:26.60\00:22:29.74 Like what should I do as a person who's sitting there 00:22:29.77\00:22:31.96 watching these commercials 00:22:31.99\00:22:33.43 and these sexual innuendos in the commercials? 00:22:33.46\00:22:37.16 You know, I would just, 00:22:37.19\00:22:38.56 you know, encourage you to just develop a filter. 00:22:38.59\00:22:42.62 The thing is that, you know, 00:22:42.65\00:22:44.02 because this, it's just overwhelming. 00:22:44.05\00:22:47.03 You know, there's things which you can just eliminate, 00:22:47.06\00:22:50.22 you can just kind of know, 00:22:50.25\00:22:51.62 hey, this is something I should not delve in. 00:22:51.65\00:22:53.02 But just watching the-- just the course of the TV 00:22:53.05\00:22:54.74 on everyday basis, you're gonna be bombarded with things. 00:22:54.77\00:22:57.76 And I think that you just have to develop a filter 00:22:57.79\00:23:00.43 where you recognize and you know, 00:23:00.46\00:23:02.36 okay, that's something that's-- what are they trying to talk? 00:23:02.39\00:23:04.95 What are they trying to sell to me there? 00:23:04.98\00:23:06.35 What are they trying to expose me to there? 00:23:06.38\00:23:09.42 And just be conscious about it, 00:23:09.45\00:23:11.55 not just letting it just seep on the inside 00:23:11.58\00:23:14.17 but to watch it through a filter. 00:23:14.20\00:23:15.74 I would go a step further. 00:23:15.77\00:23:17.14 The Bible's very clear and I mentioned early 00:23:17.17\00:23:18.54 that by beholding we become changed. 00:23:18.57\00:23:20.50 And so I have to understand, okay, 00:23:20.53\00:23:22.13 my goal in life is to go to heaven. 00:23:22.16\00:23:24.81 I want to reflect the character of Christ. 00:23:24.84\00:23:26.74 And so I need to behold that 00:23:26.77\00:23:28.24 which will change me into the image. 00:23:28.27\00:23:29.99 So I can't just sit up there and just watch anything 00:23:30.02\00:23:34.52 and think that because I know what they're trying to do 00:23:34.55\00:23:36.61 that somehow it won't affect me. 00:23:36.64\00:23:38.01 I'll never forget one of my friends came to me. 00:23:38.04\00:23:39.49 She called me on the phone. 00:23:39.52\00:23:40.89 She said "Seth, I can't believe what's going on at my job." 00:23:40.92\00:23:42.29 I said "What?" 00:23:42.32\00:23:43.69 She said "There's basically a love triangle 00:23:43.72\00:23:45.09 where one person is sleeping with another person 00:23:45.12\00:23:47.30 who's sleeping with another person's boyfriend and husband. 00:23:47.33\00:23:49.68 And one person's boyfriend comes up during lunch 00:23:49.71\00:23:52.05 and hangs out with his wife 00:23:52.08\00:23:53.45 and then comes up at another lunch 00:23:53.48\00:23:55.72 and hangs out with his girlfriend. 00:23:55.75\00:23:57.37 I mean he was just-- 00:23:57.40\00:23:58.77 she was just going on about this love triangle. 00:23:58.80\00:24:00.40 And so I was just trying to give her some counsel. 00:24:00.43\00:24:02.13 And after we hung up the phone, 00:24:02.16\00:24:03.53 I sat back and I thought about it. 00:24:03.56\00:24:04.93 I said "Man, where have I seen this before?" 00:24:04.96\00:24:06.67 And true to form I saw it in one of the latest episodes 00:24:06.70\00:24:09.27 of one of the latest sitcoms that was out there 00:24:09.30\00:24:11.33 where one person was sleeping with another person 00:24:11.36\00:24:12.78 who's sleeping with another person. 00:24:12.81\00:24:14.18 I said to myself, 00:24:14.21\00:24:15.58 "Wow, the devil is really feeding us his images 00:24:15.61\00:24:18.05 and he's downloading his message into our mind. 00:24:18.08\00:24:20.91 And because we're taking it in, 00:24:20.94\00:24:22.36 unknowingly we then reproduce it. 00:24:22.39\00:24:24.61 But, Seth, I think that's kind of the easy-- 00:24:24.64\00:24:26.74 I mean we--there are certain things we absolutely know 00:24:26.77\00:24:29.59 that we probably shouldn't be watching. 00:24:29.62\00:24:30.99 It's the in-between. It's the in-between. 00:24:31.02\00:24:32.39 Right, so what I'm saying is that for, 00:24:32.42\00:24:33.79 you know, for a young person 00:24:33.82\00:24:35.50 that just is watching the Super Bowl 00:24:35.53\00:24:38.32 or just watching just something regular, 00:24:38.35\00:24:40.35 there's commercials that are constantly bombarding you. 00:24:40.38\00:24:42.95 And so what I'm saying is that 00:24:42.98\00:24:44.35 there's that first line of defense where, 00:24:44.38\00:24:46.91 yeah, there's just some things you know as a Christian, 00:24:46.94\00:24:49.72 as someone that's trying to be pure 00:24:49.75\00:24:51.90 that I shouldn't be engaged in. 00:24:51.93\00:24:53.45 But then there's just in the everyday 00:24:53.48\00:24:55.48 course of watching something, 00:24:55.51\00:24:57.33 I just think you just have to be aware 00:24:57.36\00:24:58.91 of what the industry's trying to do. 00:24:58.94\00:25:01.14 There's some statistics that I saw where they were talking 00:25:01.17\00:25:03.24 about just the billions of dollars 00:25:03.27\00:25:05.30 that are poured in to market to young people and teens 00:25:05.33\00:25:08.02 because they know there's a market there. 00:25:08.05\00:25:09.42 There's a lot of money to be made. 00:25:09.45\00:25:10.82 Just be aware of what they're trying to do. 00:25:10.85\00:25:13.45 Eliminate the obvious but then on just watching the news 00:25:13.48\00:25:17.57 or just regular television just be aware 00:25:17.60\00:25:19.28 that they're gonna be trying-- 00:25:19.31\00:25:20.68 I guess what I'm saying is I'm not sure 00:25:20.71\00:25:22.08 that for the majority of people-- 00:25:22.11\00:25:23.48 I know in my instance that the obvious is so obvious. 00:25:23.51\00:25:26.59 And so I take it that we have to even be even more intentional 00:25:26.62\00:25:30.01 about guarding the avenues. 00:25:30.04\00:25:31.41 Yet it may look obvious that okay, 00:25:31.44\00:25:33.09 this person's shacking up with this person. 00:25:33.12\00:25:35.10 And I shouldn't be watching it. 00:25:35.13\00:25:36.50 But I think the average person says 00:25:36.53\00:25:37.90 "Well, this won't affect me," you know. 00:25:37.93\00:25:39.30 And I talk to young people all the time who say, 00:25:39.33\00:25:40.70 "It's just a sitcom. 00:25:40.73\00:25:42.10 It's just for play." 00:25:42.13\00:25:43.50 And we only understand the impact 00:25:43.53\00:25:45.02 that the obvious has on our life. Right. 00:25:45.05\00:25:47.97 Whether, you know--I think those were both good points 00:25:48.00\00:25:51.52 I think whether it's obvious or not, 00:25:51.55\00:25:53.86 whatever goes in our minds in some way affects you. Right. 00:25:53.89\00:25:56.87 I don't care, you know, it could be positive, 00:25:56.90\00:25:58.48 it could be negative. 00:25:58.51\00:25:59.88 Whatever you let in someway is going to affect. It's there. 00:25:59.91\00:26:03.42 And so there has to be-- I love that word filter. 00:26:03.45\00:26:06.42 We have to teach the filtering, not the concept 00:26:06.45\00:26:09.80 that I know used to be when we were growing up, 00:26:09.83\00:26:11.73 "don't go watch it here 00:26:11.76\00:26:13.26 because there's something bad about the place." 00:26:13.29\00:26:14.68 Well, what's the content? 00:26:14.71\00:26:16.13 Whether it's at home, on your radio, whatever, it's content. 00:26:16.16\00:26:19.23 And I think the thing-- 00:26:19.26\00:26:20.63 I don't think there's anything wrong with entertainment. 00:26:20.66\00:26:22.79 But we have to measure what we consider entertainment 00:26:22.82\00:26:25.60 against that filter which is going to be, 00:26:25.63\00:26:27.20 you know, the Word of God. 00:26:27.23\00:26:28.60 And I know the principle that just got me, is it pure? 00:26:28.63\00:26:31.90 Is it holy? Is it just? It can still be fun. 00:26:31.93\00:26:34.77 It's just helping me get closer. In some way. 00:26:34.80\00:26:37.95 And being closer to God doesn't necessarily always mean 00:26:37.98\00:26:40.22 it's got to be a Bible study. Right. 00:26:40.25\00:26:41.67 You know what I mean? 00:26:41.70\00:26:43.07 I mean when I see a holistic television show maybe 00:26:43.10\00:26:46.53 and maybe you can thrown one out there 00:26:46.56\00:26:47.93 I mean there was some very good moral 00:26:47.96\00:26:49.80 and you even had God thrown in there sometimes like "The Cosby 00:26:49.83\00:26:53.04 Show." You know, there were some things, they did show some realism some problems but 00:26:53.07\00:26:56.26 Actually you know what, they're trying to promote-- 00:26:56.29\00:26:59.40 Yeah, this is a interesting topic. 00:26:59.43\00:27:00.80 And, you know, we're gonna have to keep wrestling with it. 00:27:00.83\00:27:02.91 We're gonna be here all season long, you know. 00:27:02.94\00:27:05.14 And so we want our audience to continue to tune in. 00:27:05.17\00:27:07.40 Unfortunately we're not going to be able to deal with 00:27:07.43\00:27:08.80 this thing in the level that we want to in one episode. 00:27:08.83\00:27:10.92 So I'm sorry, you've got to come back, you know. 00:27:10.95\00:27:12.67 You've got to come back and join us next week, 00:27:12.70\00:27:14.94 same time, same place. 00:27:14.97\00:27:16.34 And we're gonna still be delving into it. 00:27:16.37\00:27:17.74 So we're grateful that you joined us today 00:27:17.77\00:27:19.94 where our goal here at "Pure Choice" 00:27:19.97\00:27:21.54 is just to really help you make pure choices. 00:27:21.57\00:27:24.72 And so we're thankful that you're here 00:27:24.75\00:27:26.92 and we pray that we'll see you again. Praise God. 00:27:26.95\00:27:29.55