Books of the Book: Peter

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Participants: Tom Shepherd & Deyvy Rodriguez

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Series Code: PBOTB

Program Code: PBOTB00017A


00:21 Hello and welcome to "Books of the Book."
00:23 My name is Deyvy Rodriquez
00:25 and with me is Dr. Tom Shepherd.
00:27 He is a professor at Andrews University.
00:29 He teaches New Testament
00:31 at the Theological Seminary there.
00:34 Dr. Shepherd, welcome. Thank you.
00:36 Before we begin our study of 1 Peter,
00:39 the last chapter actually we're doing today.
00:41 Tell us a little more about your family.
00:43 I married to Sherri Shepherd.
00:46 Her maiden name was Bomb.
00:47 And we've been married for 38 years.
00:50 And I've been blessed by God with two children,
00:52 Amy and Jonathan. They are both grown.
00:55 And Amy has three little children
00:58 with her husband Peter
00:59 and they are Malachi and Nadia and Isaiah.
01:03 And then our son Jonathan and his wife Laura
01:05 have a little grandson name, Nathaniel. Okay.
01:08 And Amy and Peter are teachers
01:10 down at Southwestern Adventist University
01:12 as biology professors
01:13 and Jonathan works with accounting.
01:15 And they live in the Berrien Spring area,
01:17 so we get to see little Nathaniel and Jonathan
01:20 and Laura quite regularly. Wonderful.
01:22 And so, what are we studying today?
01:24 Today we're looking at 1 Peter 5:1-4.
01:27 This is the last chapter of the book.
01:30 And now he is going to talk
01:31 to the Christian community once again.
01:34 So let's read 1 Peter 5:1-4. Okay.
01:39 "The elders who are among you I exhort,
01:41 I who am a fellow elder
01:43 and a witness of the sufferings of Christ,
01:46 and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed,
01:49 shepherd the flock of God which is among you,
01:52 serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly
01:57 not for dishonest gain but eagerly,
02:01 nor as being lords over those entrusted to you,
02:04 but being examples to the flock
02:07 and when the Chief Shepherd appears,
02:09 you will receive the crown of glory
02:11 that does not fade away." All right.
02:14 Now Peter opens this section in a very unusual way.
02:18 Why does he do that?
02:20 Well, the interesting thing is that he uses the term
02:23 that's used nowhere else in the New Testament.
02:25 He calls himself a fellow elder.
02:29 He says, "I'm talking to the elders."
02:31 And he says, "I'm a fellow elder."
02:33 You might expect that he would actually call himself an apostle
02:37 because that's what he did at the beginning of the book.
02:39 And apostle is so much higher than an elder,
02:42 you know, it's like way up in the sky.
02:45 And you wonder, why use a term
02:47 that puts him on the same level with each other's elders?
02:52 I think the answer to that, ties into the whole metaphor
02:59 that controls these four verses
03:03 and that is the metaphor of the flock and the shepherd.
03:09 He describes a variety of things in this passage
03:13 that have this overarching kind of ring to them of,
03:18 a metaphor of a person taking care
03:21 of a flock sheep or goats or something like that.
03:25 And the interesting parallel to this passage
03:29 is actually foundi in the gospel of John Chapter 21.
03:34 So we want to turn over to John 21 to see this story.
03:41 This is the last chapter of the gospel of John.
03:45 "And Jesus has risen from the dead.
03:49 The disciples have seen him,
03:51 recognized him as the risen Lord."
03:55 And you read the end of John Chapter 20,
04:00 he tells you why he wrote his book
04:02 and you say, well, that's a good ending to the book.
04:05 And then he says well, I have another story to tell you.
04:09 And he tells the story of the disciples
04:11 going to the Sea of Galilee.
04:14 The Sea of Tiberias is called here.
04:16 And they go fishing.
04:18 You remember the story, they catch nothing that night.
04:20 And Jesus is standing on the shore afterwards
04:25 and He calls out to them, "Children,
04:27 do you have any fish?"
04:28 And they said, "No."
04:30 And He says, "Cast the net
04:31 on the right side of the boat and you'll find something."
04:34 They cast the net and they can't pull in the net,
04:37 it's so full of fish.
04:39 And John, the beloved disciple turns to Peter
04:43 and he says, "It's the Lord."
04:46 And that's all that Peter needs to hear.
04:48 He throws on his clothes,
04:50 he jumps into the water and swims to shore.
04:52 And then they all come
04:54 and they eat breakfast together with Jesus.
04:59 The food is miraculously there.
05:01 And He says, "Bring some of the fish."
05:03 And they have this meal together.
05:05 John says that, "No one dares to ask Him who He is."
05:08 He said, "They all knew it was the Lord,
05:10 it was Jesus, the risen Lord."
05:13 Then there is this very interesting interchange,
05:16 exchange between Jesus and Peter.
05:20 We want to read about it. It's in John 21:15-19.
05:26 So I want you to read this passage.
05:28 And let's keep track of things in here
05:30 'cause there is this set three questions
05:32 and three answers and so forth. Okay.
05:35 "So when they had eaten breakfast,
05:37 Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon, son of Jonah,
05:40 do you love Me more than these?"
05:42 He said to Him. He said to him, "Yes, Lord.
05:45 You know that I love you."
05:47 He said to him, "Feed my lambs."
05:50 He said to him again a second time,
05:52 "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?"
05:54 He said to Him, "Yes, Lord. You know that I love You."
05:58 He said to him, "Tend My sheep."
06:00 He said to him the third time,
06:01 "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?"
06:04 Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time,
06:07 "Do you love Me?"
06:09 And he said to Him, "Lord, You know all these things.
06:12 You know that I love You."
06:14 Jesus said to him, "Feed My sheep.
06:18 Most assuredly, I say to you, when you were younger,
06:20 you girded yourself and walked where you wished,
06:24 but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands,
06:27 and another will guard you
06:30 and will carry you where you do not wish."
06:35 This He spoke, signifying by what death he would glorify God.
06:39 And when He had spoken this, He said to him,
06:42 "Follow Me." All right.
06:45 It's an interesting passage
06:47 and there's this three questions that Jesus asks him.
06:51 We are reminded that Peter denied Jesus three times.
06:55 And here Jesus asks him a question three times.
07:00 Peter responds three times.
07:03 Three times Jesus gives him a commission.
07:07 He has been a fisherman
07:08 and he is not gonna be a fisherman anymore.
07:10 He says, "Feed my lambs."
07:12 He says, "Tend my sheep."
07:14 He says, "Feed my sheep."
07:17 So we wonder what in the world is going on in this passage.
07:22 How does this take-- What is Jesus doing
07:25 and why does Peter respond as he does?
07:29 Well, you really have to look at Greek
07:32 to be able to recognize this easily.
07:35 Even then it takes a bit of pondering to look at.
07:38 There are several different words for love
07:41 and to love in Greek.
07:44 The one that is very commonly used in the New Testament
07:47 to talk about the kind of love that God has for us is agapao.
07:51 We talk of agape as the noun and agapao as the verb.
07:55 There is another verb, philao
07:59 which means friendship kind of love, okay.
08:03 And Peter and Jesus are using these terms
08:07 throughout this discussion.
08:10 We have a graphic here that displays it
08:11 in a kind of a chart form that shows
08:15 what this love will look like and the ideas.
08:19 Now you'll kind have to take a look at this.
08:21 You got questions one, two and three.
08:24 You have Christ's question on the left
08:27 and then Peter's response, then his ministry commission.
08:32 You have level of love
08:34 and the level of ministry that are involved here.
08:36 Now when Jesus first asked him, He says,
08:40 "Do you love Me more than the rest of these do?"
08:43 And he uses agapao.
08:45 So, do you have the highest love?
08:46 In fact, do you have more love
08:47 than the rest of the disciples do for Me?
08:49 Now before Jesus died, Peter had said,
08:52 "Yes certainly, I sure do.
08:54 I have that love more than anybody else."
08:57 But now he is really humble.
09:00 In fact, he doesn't even dare to use the same word.
09:03 He uses, you see there on the graphic.
09:06 He uses the word, philao
09:08 which is a friendship kind of love.
09:10 Jesus asked them again. "Do you love Me?"
09:12 He doesn't say more than the rest of these.
09:16 He kind of lowers the bar a bit.
09:18 but He still uses agapao.
09:20 Peter again uses philao.
09:22 The third time around, now Jesus uses philao.
09:26 It's like He has lowered the bar down lower, you know.
09:29 And Peter is hurt this time.
09:31 And he says, but He still uses philao.
09:35 And people look at this and they pointed,
09:37 "What in the world is going on here?"
09:39 It's even worse when you return to the ministry
09:42 because the ministry commission
09:43 seems to start at the lowest level,
09:46 feeding the lambs, the near fights.
09:49 And then it goes up to a middle level,
09:52 perhaps, caring for more mature like taking them out, you know,
09:55 and then feeding the sheep.
09:57 Now this is like the highest level,
09:58 if you were the pastor of a university,
10:01 church or something, you know.
10:03 You don't just put anybody there,
10:04 you choose a person with the highest.
10:06 So Jesus conception of what He is requiring of.
10:10 Peter seems to go down
10:11 from the highest level down to the lower,
10:13 but His commission to him seems to go from lower to higher,
10:17 and it's very strange, moving away.
10:19 So why does He do this?
10:22 Well, He is testing him. He is testing him.
10:25 He denied him three times
10:27 and so He is testing him as well.
10:29 And He is saying He wants to see
10:32 how much Peter has repented.
10:37 Now how would Peter show repentance?
10:43 Well, if he were to make-- If Jesus said,
10:45 "Do you love me more than the rest of these?"
10:47 I sure do more than anybody else here.
10:51 That wouldn't show repentance.
10:52 That would show the same old brash Peter
10:55 who was very self-confident
10:57 considered himself better than everybody else.
11:00 Peter has learned an amazing lesson.
11:03 He went through the experience
11:05 of denying Jesus and the cross, seeing Jesus die on the cross.
11:12 And we get inklings from the other gospels
11:14 when we read the story that Peter didn't feel like
11:17 he belonged anymore with the rest of the disciples.
11:19 In Mark, the angel says to the women,
11:21 "Go tell his disciples."
11:24 And Peter, that he is supposed to meet them in Galilee.
11:28 So Peter felt that he didn't belong
11:31 and probably the other disciples did as well.
11:34 That he didn't deserve a place.
11:36 I mean, if we have somebody today
11:37 who destroys their ministry, you know,
11:39 they do some foolish action and just do something terrible,
11:43 they won't be hired by the church conference
11:46 or, you know, by local churches too much.
11:48 They're pretty much out, you know.
11:50 So Peter displays a very sensitive concept of repentance.
11:57 He doesn't dare use the wonderful word agapao,
12:00 that Jesus has used that would be just cheeky.
12:03 That would be so arrogant to do that.
12:05 He takes a very low, "Lord,"
12:07 he says, "Yes, you know, I love you."
12:08 And Jesus is like He is putting the knife
12:11 and He is just twisting it.
12:13 He brings the level down and finally He comes down
12:16 to the level where Peter started.
12:18 And He says, "Do you love me
12:20 with this fellowship love, this brotherly love."
12:23 And that's like questioning
12:24 what Peter had already been answering,
12:26 but Peter comes through with flying colors.
12:29 He says, "Lord, you know, everything.
12:31 You know, that I love you."
12:33 His point of reference has changed.
12:37 His point of reference has changed.
12:39 It's no longer himself. It's Jesus.
12:42 He says, "Lord, you know, everything."
12:45 And Jesus restores him to ministry
12:48 gives him a commission.
12:49 In fact, this is one of the greatest evidences
12:53 that Jesus rose from the dead. What?
12:56 That Peter was restored to ministry in the Christian church
13:01 because if Jesus had not restored him to ministry,
13:04 nobody else would have.
13:06 They would have left him out,
13:07 if they even started there, you know, their little group.
13:10 Peter wouldn't have been part of them.
13:11 So Peter never forgot this lesson
13:15 and when we turn to 1 Peter 5.
13:18 What concept of ministry does he link in to?
13:22 The shepherd 0and the flock,
13:24 he calls Jesus the Chief Shepherd
13:27 and he talks here about being a fellow elder
13:30 down at that level where he knew
13:33 he belonged along with everybody else.
13:36 He had true repentance in his life.
13:38 Well, we're just starting studying 1 Peter Chapter 5
13:41 and we'll come back and study
13:43 some more of these verses after a short break.


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