Books of the Book: Peter

Why Your Old Friends Don't Like You Anymore

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Participants: Tom Shepherd & Deyvy Rodriguez

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00:22 Hello and welcome to "Books of the Book."
00:24 I'm Deyvy Rodriguez and I'm glad
00:26 you're able to join us in our study today.
00:28 We're studying the books of 1st and 2nd Peter.
00:31 Dr. Tom Shepherd is with us.
00:33 He is a Professor of New Testament Interpretation
00:35 at the Theological Seminary of Andrews University.
00:39 Dr. Shepherd, welcome. Thank you.
00:41 You know, when I became a Christian
00:43 there were many things I had to leave behind
00:45 and some of them were friends.
00:46 And actually they left me behind
00:48 because they just simply didn't like my new lifestyle
00:52 and so some of them decided to just go their own way.
00:56 And at some point they just didn't like me anymore.
00:59 I don't know if you'd an experience that way or--
01:01 Well in my life I was raised up as--
01:05 in a church going family, Adventist family.
01:08 And so my group of friends
01:10 were friends that were already in the church.
01:11 So I didn't have that shift take place.
01:13 But I know many people do.
01:15 And it's quite startling to them sometimes,
01:18 especially if there old friends give them a hard time.
01:23 And that's really what our passage here is talking about.
01:25 So we jump right into it. Let's read 1st Peter 4:1-6.
01:30 "Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh,
01:33 arm yourselves also with the same mind,
01:36 for He who has suffered in the flesh
01:38 has ceased from sin, that He no longer should live
01:41 the rest of His time in the flesh
01:43 for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.
01:46 For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing
01:51 the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lewdness,
01:55 lusts, drunkenness, revelries,
01:58 drinking parties, and abominable idolatries.
02:02 In regard to these, they think it strange that
02:06 you do not run with them in the same flood
02:09 of dissipation, speaking evil of you.
02:13 They will give an account to Him
02:14 who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
02:17 For this reason the gospel was preached
02:20 also to those who are dead,
02:23 that they might be judged according to men in the flesh,
02:26 but live according to God in the spirit."
02:30 So how does this, what we've just read fit,
02:33 with what we've read before? All right.
02:36 Now that's a great question, too.
02:38 Because in a way it kind of builds on what's gone before.
02:41 We saw in our previous 2 times together
02:45 that 1st Peter 3:13-22 are a description
02:52 first of the Christian experience
02:54 of sharing faith and being persecuted for it,
02:58 followed by a support from the experience of Jesus
03:03 where He suffered as well,
03:06 where He died to bring us to God,
03:09 that He was raised to life in the spirit
03:12 and that He proclaimed victory
03:14 and ascended to the throne on high.
03:17 So we have that wonderful victory to look forward to.
03:22 He begins chapter 4 then by saying,
03:24 "Since therefore Christ suffered in the flesh."
03:29 This concept of since Christ suffered in the flesh
03:34 is like a summary of all that he said in those verses
03:39 about Christ's experience in verses 18 to 22.
03:44 But then that's, of course, not where he stops.
03:48 He goes on.
03:51 And what does Peter mean in verse 1 when he says that
03:53 "we should arm ourselves with that same thought?"
03:57 Yeah, he now talks about a mindset or a way of thinking.
04:04 We've seen Peter talk a lot about, you know,
04:08 things that go on in the mind
04:10 because these Christians in this setting of Asia Minor
04:15 in the 1st century were many of them
04:19 by themselves, you know, away from other Christians.
04:22 And they needed to be fortified in their minds
04:26 in order to face the experience around them.
04:28 So we aren't exactly told.
04:32 We are said to arm ourselves with that same thought
04:36 but we aren't told exactly what that thought was
04:38 because in verses 18 to 22 what we're told is actions
04:43 that Jesus went through.
04:45 If we want to think back to any thoughts of Jesus
04:51 we have to reach all the way back to chapter 2, verse 23.
04:54 So maybe we should read 2:23
04:56 'cause it's probably a good parallel to this.
05:00 "Who when He was reviled did not revile in return,
05:03 when He suffered He did not threatened
05:06 but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously."
05:10 All right, remember when we talked about this
05:12 we said that in that experience
05:14 Jesus handed Himself over to God.
05:18 This is in the Garden of Gethsemane where He said
05:21 "Not My will be done but Your will be done."
05:26 And so He delivered Himself to God.
05:29 He handed Himself over to God.
05:30 That same kind of concept of Christ
05:33 submitting Himself to God,
05:34 of being willing to go to the cross,
05:37 of being faithful to God in a trying an experience,
05:41 that's probably the idea
05:43 that we are to arm ourselves with in this experience.
05:46 Now it's interesting that verses 18 to 22 of chapter 3
05:51 are kind of pivotal because they form the support
05:56 for verses 13 and 17 which come before them.
06:01 But now they are the premise for verses 4--chapter 4:1-6.
06:08 So they supported what goes before
06:10 but they become the basis
06:13 for his argumentation in verses 1 to 6 of chapter 4.
06:16 So it's kind of a pivotal kind of a pattern there in 3:18-22.
06:21 Very interesting, very important passage,
06:24 challenging, takes a lot of study to really get into.
06:27 We really just kind of touched on things there.
06:30 You can go read commentaries where you can read pages
06:32 and pages and pages to try to understand those verses.
06:36 So what we present here
06:38 we hope it's a great blessing to God's people.
06:40 But in a sense it's kind of the hors d'oeuvres
06:44 for a great meal of digging into God's word for ourselves.
06:48 What does the last part in verse 1 of chapter 4
06:52 mean that when it says
06:54 "that the one who has suffered has ceased from sin?"
06:58 Boy, isn't that a great little phrase?
07:00 Just sticks in your mind.
07:01 "That one who has suffered has ceased from sin."
07:05 People get this idea "Wow, I want to have victory oversin.
07:11 So what I better do is I better go suffer."
07:15 Because it says here the one who has suffered
07:19 has ceased from sin.
07:21 Well, who is this one who has suffered?
07:22 That's the first question.
07:24 Some people wanna say "it's Jesus" because it says
07:29 in the verse that "Christ suffered in the flesh."
07:32 You know, so arm yourselves with the same way of thinking
07:36 for the one who has suffered in the flesh.
07:39 Well then Jesus suffered in the flesh? Sure.
07:42 But then the last phrase "has ceased from sin."
07:46 What's the problem of applying that to Jesus?
07:49 That he was sinning at one point and now he stopped sinning.
07:53 Yeah. So it doesn't seem to work with applying this to Jesus.
07:57 So it probably is applying to the Christian.
08:00 And saying the one who has suffered in the flesh
08:06 has ceased from sin.
08:07 And some commentators take this to teach
08:12 that suffering is a way of disciplining
08:15 the Christian to root out sinful behavior.
08:19 And that's one possibility.
08:22 I mean, we think back to 1st Peter 1
08:25 where it talks about the testing of your faith
08:29 and it says in verse 7.
08:32 So that the-- this is 1st Peter 1:7.
08:34 "So that the tested genuineness of your faith more precious
08:38 than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire
08:41 maybe found to result in praise and glory and honor
08:43 at the revelation of Jesus Christ."
08:45 That's one possibility.
08:47 Certainly suffering can show you the badness of sin.
08:55 But the suffering he's talking about here is probably suffering
08:58 because you're being persecuted for being a Christian.
09:02 And it's a little hard to see how if you're doing
09:06 what's right and you're suffering,
09:08 how that is that which cleanses sin out of you.
09:12 I mean, it's possible.
09:14 You might want to say "I'll never go back to that again.
09:16 I'll never go that way."
09:18 But actually the ceasing from sin concept here
09:25 may instead of being, you know,
09:27 headed towards cleansing sin out of the life
09:32 actually, a sign of it being cleansed from the life.
09:36 Now how can that be? What do we mean by this?
09:39 It goes like this.
09:41 The person is converted
09:43 like you had talked about your experience.
09:45 Their lifestyle changed. Okay?
09:47 And so they were now following Jesus.
09:51 I sometimes say to people that becoming a Christian
09:54 is like changing teams on a football team.
09:58 And you used to wear the black shirt
10:00 of death or whatever, you know, of Satan's team
10:02 and then you put on the red shirt of Jesus' team.
10:06 And He says "we're going this opposite direction
10:08 than you used to go.
10:10 You used to be going that way and now you're headed this way."
10:11 It sounds like a traitor. New team.
10:14 Like a traitor, you know. Yes, of course.
10:16 Betray your-- Yes, of course.
10:17 And the other team, what they're going to do?
10:18 They're gonna knock you right down.
10:20 They're gonna persecute you. All right.
10:21 So you left the way of sin
10:23 and you started to live for Jesus.
10:25 And what do they do? They persecute you.
10:27 All right, so the persecution, the suffering is a sign
10:33 that you left the old way and you're walking with Jesus.
10:38 That's another way to understand this verse.
10:41 So we tend to internalize this a lot and say,
10:44 "Wow, he has ceased from sin.
10:46 Ceased. He's sinless. He's perfect.
10:49 You have to remember that Peter
10:51 when he talks about sin is talking about actions.
10:54 He talks about things you do.
10:56 And he talks about-- he makes lists.
10:58 He tells you "don't do this. Don't do that.
10:59 You know, don't go down that way."
11:01 And it's always rather action oriented
11:03 in his descriptions of sin.
11:06 So we tend to, you know, sort of get it all
11:10 in our hearts and minds and say, you know,
11:12 just--he's not even sinning with the thought
11:15 or something if he's suffering.
11:17 And while the suffering has-- perhaps it's disciplining them.
11:21 I'm thinking maybe that this is more just a sign
11:23 that the person is a Christian.
11:25 People are persecuting them. That's a sign.
11:28 They are persecuting him. Why are they persecuting him?
11:31 Because he's doing what's right.
11:32 That's the sign he's going down the right path.
11:34 Now verses 2 and 3, how do they fit in with verse 1?
11:38 All right, it's a good question.
11:39 Let's just take a look them again just briefly.
11:42 Verse 2 says, "So as to live for the rest of the time
11:44 in the flesh no longer for human passions
11:47 but for the will of God.
11:48 For the time that is past suffices
11:50 for doing what the Gentiles want to do,
11:52 living in sensuality, passions, drunkenness, orgies,
11:55 drinking parties, and lawless idolatry."
11:59 Verse 2 gives the purpose of the mindset
12:02 that has led to the suffering in verse 1.
12:05 So verses 2 and 3 stand in contrast
12:08 with one another actually.
12:10 Verse 2 talks about the future,
12:12 what this whole mindset is gonna lead you to.
12:16 And verse 3 talks about the past,
12:18 what was living like a Gentile was like.
12:21 The future is bright with living for God.
12:24 The past is what you used to do
12:26 for the-- in the Gentile lifestyle.
12:30 In between these two, in between these two
12:33 is the present in which the Christian is out of step
12:36 with the pagans around them
12:38 because they were converted and they became Christians.
12:41 Gentiles don't like that
12:43 and they make the Christians suffer.
12:44 The list of vices that we find in verse 3
12:47 is still typical of our world today.
12:50 You look at the entertainment industry
12:53 and all the things that they focus attention on.
12:56 See Hollywood has discovered
12:58 that sex and violence sells their films.
13:02 Sells their programs. So what do they focus on?
13:05 Sex and violence.
13:06 And when they put the two together
13:08 it sells them more.
13:09 They're all about making the money.
13:11 They're not about establishing Christian character, you see.
13:13 So this is just like reading the newspapers today.
13:16 And still with us to this day.
13:19 And perhaps you can also share
13:20 what reaction does the world have
13:23 when Christians or when people decide to,
13:25 you know, follow Jesus?
13:27 And maybe you can answer that after the short break.
13:30 Well, friends, we're studying
13:32 1st and 2nd Peter and with Dr. Tom Shepherd.
13:34 This is a very interesting Bible study.
13:37 And be with us after this short break.


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