Good evening ASI. Good
evening. Good evening ASI.
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Good evening. Are
you alive tonight?
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Yes. Praise the Lord?
This is the part of ASI a voice
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really enjoyed and
that's when you get to interview
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people and hear different
people's experiences that
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often times just ordinary
everyday people like us,
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you know going out and doing
extraordinary things by the
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power of the Holy
Spirit, nd I have here with me
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Sam Miller. Sam, you have
a very interesting shirt on
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I mean, did you just get
off an airline or something and
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come here what's up with
the shirt? Now, not exactly,
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just came for ASI.
You just, how come you're
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wearing this shirt then I
mean. Well, that's part of
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my testimony. Tell us a
little bit, how you used to
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fly or something or are
you still flying or. Yeah,
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I did, I did and I
still do. About 7 years ago,
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the Lord led me to
Cincinnati, gave me my
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dream job. I was the
Chief Pilot for a large company
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in Cincinnati. And
within a couple of months there,
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I met a young lady and I
can't give, I can't do this
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story, Justice my wife
tells it much better than I do.
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So, you'll have to ask
her sometime. Were you a
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Seventh-day Adventist
then? No, I wasn't. And you
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met this young lady,
just a friend and. Yeah and I
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mentioned to her that I
was looking for a Church
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and I asked her what
her Church was like. And she
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mentioned that she went
to Church on Saturdays and
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my response that was
well. Saturday or Sunday it
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doesn't really matter,
either day works for me
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because I'm off on
the weekends. So, the next
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Sabbath, I met her at
her Church and it just so
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happened that the message
there that day was Daniel
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Prophecy of 1260
days, something I had never
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heard of before, and
I was fascinated by it.
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And so what
happened after that I mean.
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Well, I continued my
job and I was out of town on
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a lot of weekends, but
I was able to find local
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Adventist Churches in
every city that I would fly
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to. And I would make
a point to go to those
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Churches and I continued
to grow and then when I
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get back to Cincinnati I
started to do Bible studies
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with Conference Bible
Workers. And within a couple
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of years I had join the
Church. And, I think you got
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married too. Yeah, we
got married also. And so,
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are you still flying
today or what are you doing?
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Well, shortly after that
I mentioned to my wife that,
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my job felt unfulfilling
and I felt like God had more
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for us and so we
discussed and through the
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conversation it was
determine that maybe I
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should look at
teaching which is something I've
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never done before,
possibly history and within a
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couple of weeks of that
conversation God opened a
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door and let it be known
to us that there was a school
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in the middle of
Tennessee looking for a history
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teacher. Sam wasn't it
kind of difficult. I mean
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here you are working
for a commercial company
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flying and you're
gonna step down from you know
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kind of a prestigious
job I mean flying airplanes
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corporately and you're
gonna go to teaching some
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place. I mean, what
would motivate you to do that
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and was it a difficult
decision for you? Yeah,
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a lot of people think that
it was a difficult decision,
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but like everything in
my life, God led me in small
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steps. And so the decision
was actually fairly simple
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for my wife and I,
although you know, it was a
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serious lifestyle change.
It was an easy decision to
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make and something we
look back on and look at
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how easy it was to just
go from being a corporate
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pilot living in the Suburbs,
to living on the campus of
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a self-supporting
school. And what self-supporting
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school are you at now?
We're at Heritage Academy in
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Monterey, Tennessee.
And so are you teaching
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History like you were
planning on? Well, the first
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year that I was at,
that I was hired at Heritage,
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at ASI, David Gates with
GMI came to our principal
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and asked if there was
anyway that Heritage could
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have a flight program.
And our principal said you're
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not going to believe
this but we just hired a pilot
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as a History teacher. So,
they brought the idea to me
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and I said no, no, no,
we don't want to do flight
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instruction. It's a direction
our school really doesn't
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need to go; here I'm telling
missionaries how, what is
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necessary in the
mission field. Oh! When you were
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thinking about going
there and teaching History were
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you a certified History
teacher or something like
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that. No, no, I wasn't.
But, I was able to go there
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and start teaching
History and I, you know my wife
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and I we knew, we had
walked away from aviation.
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That's what I believed
actually. And so you did
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completely walkway from
aviation. I did for about six
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months. Six months, so
what happened, I mean you
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said something to me back
stage about the academy is
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involved with some
kind of aviation program and
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that, I've been to lot
of self-supporting academies
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and I've never heard
of an academy having an
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aviation program. Tell
us a little bit about that.
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Well, the following year
at ASI, I actually came and
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in the course of
things I discovered another
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organization called AWA,
Adventist World Aviation.
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I met Don Starlin the
president and we started
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talking and he mentioned
that, he thought this was a
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good idea for Heritage
to have a flight program.
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I continued to really
not pursue it and through
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prayer on AWA's
behalf within six months God
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delivered an
airplane to our front door.
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You're kidding me.
Yeah, at which point our
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president of our school
and I had to approach the
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board and, seriously
reconsider, and mentioned
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to them we'll have a
flight program. You started
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seriously reconsidering.
We did, we did. So what is,
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what are you doing now,
what's the program in the
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school? Are you doing
like an awareness with the
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kids or you what are
you doing with the aviation
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program exactly? Well,
at our school of course as a
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self-supporting school we
have academics, vocational
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spiritual training and
this is just one of the
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vocational tools. We feel
like it's important to give
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these young people not
only the academic that you
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would get at any high
school, but the vocational
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training and the vocational
training should be useful
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to the mission field.
And at this point aviation is
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extremely needed in the
mission field. And so are
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the young people coming
away with a sense of the
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importance of aviation
then and are you actually
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taking them up and
giving them pilot lessons and.
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Yes, yes, we have a
program written that a student
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could start during their
sophomore year and through
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the course of their
high school from sophomore to
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the senior year, if they
graduated at the age 18 it's
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possible that they
could have their commercial
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pilot's license at
which point they graduate from
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high school,
commercial pilot's license goes
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straight to the
mission field at age 18.
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That's sounds like the
kind of academy. I would
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like to go to. I
love Airplanes, be flying.
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So, what is gonna be
the long term affects of you
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think of having this
program at Heritage Academy.
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Well, the program is
growing extremely quickly.
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God has taught me a lot
about faith and he continues
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to do that. Praise
God. Last year, of course we
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had our Cessna 150,
that's what we're using for
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training. God is
making a way for us to build a
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runway this fall on our
campus. We're working on
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on through prayer and
planning, we're planning on
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building a hanger to
store, not only our Cessna 150
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but also a Cessna
172 because God has also
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brought the means for us
to purchase a Cessna 172,
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I've been shopping the
last week for another airplane.
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Well, praise God. And
Sam thank you for your time
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coming up here and I
appreciate what you're doing
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there, it's a really
exciting story. Thank you.
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Pretty amazing huh,
somebody willing to step
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down from commercial
flying and accepting the
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Sabbath and then marrying
an Adventist girl and now
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doing an aviation program
for the Lord. Don, it's been
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longtime since I saw
you. I think that we kind of
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first got acquainted,
this is Don Folkenberg by the
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way, I'm sorry I know
him pretty well, and I was
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just actually at a camp
meeting last weekend with
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your nephew Don, Bob
Folkenberg Jr, we were
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speaking at a camp
meeting together. I think I
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first met you in Bulgaria,
early 90s something like
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that and we both fly
quite a bit and so we would run
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into each other in the
strangest places, I can
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remember one time we
were, I was at Frankford
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airport and stopped at
the lounge there because I had
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a long layover and you
were there and we spend quite
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a bit of time talking and.
So, we spend quite a bit of
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time in airplanes right
I mean a good part of our
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life. We seem to live on
board. Yeah so, you have a
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interesting experience
considering all the things
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that happened with 9/11
and the security situations
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on airplanes and such.
Tell us a little bit about an
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experience you
recently had on one of the your
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commercial flights. March
and April, I was date block
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manager for a group of
students in Malaysia from
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Fountainview Academy
and I got to know some of
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the staff members, the
president of the institution
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gave me a set of DVDs and
I started to listen to them.
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And in fact, well one week
into the series of meetings
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I got notice or a telephone
call that my father-in-law
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had passed away. He was
95, had lived a good life,
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loved the Lord and
was looking forward to him
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coming. But that
necessitated me heading
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for home and that is a
problem when all the flights
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as you know running full.
And there was a plus factor
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to this flight and that is
that I was upgraded to first
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class. As that was hard
to take. Somebody's got to do
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it. Well, I'm sitting
there with my computer open
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listening to the DVDs.
Now, is this a DVD series of
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the kids singing like
in monument valley and.
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How many of you seen
that series. The kids from
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Fountainview, isn't that
good. Really well. Really
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well produced, really
well produced. And it's very
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really following the
Steps to Christ. And, I noticed
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have you ever been in a
situation where you notice
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people around you but you
didn't really look at them.
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And I notice that behind
me there were a number of
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the crew. And I had my
headset on, I was not paying
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any attention to anybody
other then listening to this
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beautiful music, and I
pulled my headset off and
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I said, can I help you.
They said, we can't help but
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notice that it would
appear this music that you are
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listening to is really
incredible. And I jerked my
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headset off and I said,
well listen for yourself.
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And they did, and they
passed it around and they
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listened and they listened
and they listened. They said
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is there someway that we
could show this onboard the
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plane, and I said, I
haven't the foggiest idea.
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Long story short, they
took the DVD set from me.
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Now, you need to
understand when you're
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flying international.
Nowadays you don't get to
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go between cabins. I
don't know whether they did or
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didn't. Except, well
let me go back in the story.
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The president of the
institution had told me
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you know we have some
students that felt that
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putting together this set
of DVDs was really a waste
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of time. We, you know
nobody is gonna to watch it.
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I said, will you give
me five minutes? By the way
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they're getting on the
bus, leaving hope where we had
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our Share Him festival,
I said I would like to talk
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to these young people and
I told them the story that
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I'm telling you right
now. I said, you folks have no
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idea the effect that your
work in making this set of
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DVDs had on those
people. I don't really know,
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but the fact of the matter
is many, many, many people
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were introduce to Jesus
Christ, by the work that you
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did and it was so incredible.
Well, there was lots of
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silence, I have no
questions in my mind that many,
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many people just by
watching had a chance of
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seeing Jesus Christ,
his life portrayed and what
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it can do for you and I.
All I know is when I got off
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I tried to get back into
the tourist class cabin, because
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I wanted to see if in
fact they were going to be
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showing it back there
and they wouldn't let me.
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They said, you cannot
switch cabins, you cannot even
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use the bathrooms
back and forth between the
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cabins, there is no
congregating in the aisles.
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So, do you think that
they were that they the flight
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crew that were sitting
behind you were indicating
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they were going to put it
on and just let everybody on
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the plane watch it.
That's what they wanted to,
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that's what they said.
My response was, hey look I
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fly this airline an awful
lot, a few million miles worth.
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It's a good airline, I
want to continue doing so.
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So, make sure that you
run this permission process by
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the captain and they said
look the captain, he's sort
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of the last word. In
fact one of the staff member
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said on this plane we
have a bunk house up above and
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she says I'm getting ready
to take my break. I want to
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find out if they will fix
it up so I can watch it up in
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the break room. Folks, we
have no idea, the effect of
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people around us observing
us, watching what we're
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watching and points them
in a direction that hey we
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might see them in
heaven again. Yep, I often say
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DVDs and television
programs can boldly go
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where many other
people cannot go. Cannot go.
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And I know that's true
even in homes and huts in
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Hindu religious and
Nepal and India and we don't
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understand. Often times
the power of just having
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something like a DVD
presentation or in this case
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with the kids from
Fairhaven, it's Fairhaven
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right? Fountainview,
Fountainview, Fountainview.
00:18:41.85\00:18:43.59
that produced this
series, it's really
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good. Well, Don, I
appreciated you sharing
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that with us and its good
to see you again and a quick
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comment, guys, a couple
seconds here. Well see you
00:18:51.35\00:18:54.20
in Frankfort again.
Okay, okay, God bless.
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Next we have a very
interesting story. We're
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gonna not be on flying
time so much but it's Randy
00:19:00.43\00:19:04.84
and Tammy Bevins and
these folks move from
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beautiful Oregon
down to Ukiah, California.
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And you told me a little
bit of a story and it's kind of
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sad story but really an
encouraging story at the
00:19:15.70\00:19:17.68
same time. Tell us a
little bit about your move and
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what happened. I'm gonna
talk just briefly and then
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I'm gonna let Tammy
talk, about roughly a year and
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have ago we decided to
sell our home and we listed
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it, we put it, put it
up, you know for sale and
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nothing was happening,
nothing was happening.
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We just felt God
impressing us that we needed to
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move and as time went on
we started to realize why
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the house wasn't
selling. Well, when we moved
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Ukiah, I had three small
children, twins that were
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two and a three month
old and our house was fairly
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large and I said I
cannot clean this. I just don't
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have time. So, we
hired a house keeper somebody
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who was really good
in our community and she
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worked for us for five
years and about a year ago
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she, well she had been
asking me if she needed to
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see a priest for forgiveness
and I told her no and
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she kept asking me
every few weeks she would ask
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me and so one day I gave
her a Steps to Christ and
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she was a Hispanic
Catholic. Did you give it to her
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in Spanish or English.
Spanish. But she speaks
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fairly good English. Yes,
Oh good. But she preferred
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to read in Spanish. And
she a few weeks later she
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came to me and said, you
know that Steps to Christ
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you gave me she said I
loved it and I want to give
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some to my sisters,
could I buy some from you,
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I said oh no I said I've
got more and so I went to the
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closet and I went to my
stash and got some for her
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and she was so happy
to have them, she has 13
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siblings so she has a
big family. So, some months
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went by and we were
talking about the Bible,
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she goes I don't know
too much about the Bible and
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I could hear the Holy
Spirit saying this is your
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opportunity, so powerful.
So, I said Rosa, would you
00:21:19.04\00:21:23.20
like to study the Bible
with me I said we could do
00:21:23.40\00:21:26.44
three studies and if you
like it we'll keep going she
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said okay. So, we did
it and we kept doing it and
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doing it and about a year
later we're still doing it
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and we're getting
into prophecy and. Were you
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nervous about asking her
about having Bible studies?
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I mean are you a trained
Bible study. No, no, I've
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never given one. You've
never given a Bible study at
00:21:46.69\00:21:49.18
this point. No, no. And
what gave you the courage to
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just step out and ask her
something like that, I mean.
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Well, I've been. And that's
a really difficult question.
00:21:55.11\00:21:57.00
It is. You get to know
somebody and you started
00:21:57.08\00:21:58.44
having some spiritual
conversations and that next
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step you know like you
know would you be interested
00:22:00.88\00:22:03.40
in Bible studies, well
that's a hard line to get out.
00:22:03.54\00:22:06.19
Well, I've been praying
for God to use me somehow,
00:22:06.90\00:22:10.66
my world is very small
because I'm taking care of
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small children and my
mom had been doing some
00:22:13.47\00:22:18.39
Bible studies in her
home lifting up Jesus in her
00:22:18.50\00:22:21.35
community. And so, and
talking about it saying they
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are so easy to do and
people love them and so I
00:22:24.70\00:22:27.76
anyway I just. So, did
she say yes. She said yes,
00:22:28.30\00:22:30.59
yes. Tammy had been
giving Bible studies they
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had been about 20 Bible
studies at this point in time
00:22:35.30\00:22:38.37
and I remember Rosa
worked on Wednesday morning
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and I went up and I saw
her she was in our bathroom
00:22:41.95\00:22:44.32
cleaning and I said
Rosa tell me how is it going
00:22:44.55\00:22:47.67
And she goes you
know that Bible that Tammy
00:22:48.48\00:22:50.34
bought for me and she
goes I read it every day she
00:22:50.47\00:22:52.61
goes I don't have time
for lunch because I read it
00:22:52.79\00:22:54.87
during my lunch hour and
I almost can't get time to
00:22:54.97\00:22:57.65
eat any lunch I'm just
reading studying and her
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face was the face of
an angel. God gave me that
00:23:00.60\00:23:06.69
image because it wasn't
shortly after that where
00:23:07.22\00:23:11.56
things started falling
apart. We had her over for
00:23:11.86\00:23:15.27
dinner, there was a
Hispanic man in our Church who
00:23:15.49\00:23:18.24
had been studying
with, with her and Tammy.
00:23:18.53\00:23:20.21
They got into prophecy,
he started giving it to her
00:23:20.24\00:23:22.57
Spanish, so that it
would be clearly understood and
00:23:22.79\00:23:25.26
she was grasping it,
accepting it every step of
00:23:25.43\00:23:28.27
the way and she was
right there and we had her over
00:23:28.50\00:23:31.74
for dinner and she
seemed to be kind of out of it,
00:23:31.77\00:23:35.68
like there was something
wrong, we started talking to
00:23:35.79\00:23:37.50
her, they said that her
doctor had put her on Prozac
00:23:37.62\00:23:40.31
and she taken one dose
and I said one dose won't do
00:23:40.51\00:23:43.36
that for you, I mean it's
gonna to take you seven days
00:23:43.39\00:23:45.05
I mean she was so bad
that I had to drive her car
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home. What was
happening with her, why was she.
00:23:48.15\00:23:50.58
No one, no one understood
they said that she was
00:23:50.63\00:23:52.57
depressed, they took her
off to Mexico and put her in
00:23:52.71\00:23:54.87
an in-patient program,
she was there about three or
00:23:54.90\00:23:57.23
four days, she came
back, they put her into a
00:23:57.35\00:23:59.39
neurology ward in Santa
Rosa. She became more and
00:23:59.74\00:24:04.79
more demented, and they
finally diagnosed her about
00:24:04.87\00:24:10.24
maybe a week later,
she had Jakob Creutzfeldt
00:24:10.65\00:24:13.19
Variant, she had Mad
Cow Disease. Wow. They told
00:24:13.48\00:24:17.05
her that she should go
home and that she would have
00:24:17.08\00:24:18.05
maybe two weeks to live.
We went there everyday in
00:24:19.76\00:24:23.42
fact she was comatose,
she actually died ten days
00:24:23.65\00:24:27.93
later, she didn't even
live the two weeks. But there
00:24:28.05\00:24:32.15
were like 50 family
members there everyday and we
00:24:32.35\00:24:35.28
would go over and I
remember once, one of the nieces
00:24:35.38\00:24:39.36
said you know maybe God
just needs Rosa in heaven
00:24:39.58\00:24:43.62
and Tammy, I counted
maybe three seconds and then
00:24:44.79\00:24:47.21
she goes wait you know
Rosa understood the state of
00:24:47.63\00:24:50.98
the death and she accepted
it and she in fact said that
00:24:51.07\00:24:54.88
she wanted her family to
understand the state of the
00:24:54.97\00:24:57.59
dead and Tammy gave a
Bible study on the state of
00:24:57.67\00:25:00.93
the dead to the whole
family while Rosa's laying there
00:25:00.98\00:25:03.42
almost dead on the bed.
Randy wasn't that the last
00:25:03.74\00:25:07.04
Bible study she had was
on the state of the dead.
00:25:07.18\00:25:09.38
Actually it wasn't, she
had, they were into prophecy
00:25:10.09\00:25:12.66
by then, but she had told
Tammy that her mother back
00:25:12.78\00:25:16.46
in Mexico when her
brother had died her mother had
00:25:16.52\00:25:20.00
spend lots of time and
money on masses and you
00:25:20.15\00:25:23.73
know things to help
move her brother out of
00:25:23.94\00:25:29.02
purgatory and spend a lot
of money and she said I just
00:25:29.17\00:25:32.62
wish that my mother
would know the truth.
00:25:32.80\00:25:35.23
You know it just makes
me think that you just never
00:25:35.84\00:25:37.62
know you know meet
people in their acquainting
00:25:37.80\00:25:39.87
somebody you work with
and we just assumed that
00:25:39.90\00:25:41.84
they're gonna to be there
next week or the week after,
00:25:41.96\00:25:43.85
the week after that. And
we hesitate sometimes to be
00:25:43.88\00:25:47.53
a little bit more bold,
to have Holy boldness to step
00:25:47.75\00:25:49.70
forward and say you
know Lord what can I do to be
00:25:49.83\00:25:52.71
able to share Christ with
this person, to bond with this
00:25:52.80\00:25:54.91
person to make you know
this person become aware
00:25:55.02\00:25:57.28
of God and what is Holy
Spirit is doing. And to come
00:25:57.41\00:26:01.13
full circle that about
the same the week that she
00:26:01.16\00:26:04.07
became so demented that
we couldn't communicated
00:26:04.13\00:26:06.55
with her, remember I told
you our house had been for
00:26:06.58\00:26:08.96
sale, we got a phone
call not listed anymore, got a
00:26:09.27\00:26:12.05
phone call and said hey do
you want to still sell your
00:26:12.24\00:26:13.77
house and it did. Wow,
amazing, you have any last
00:26:13.92\00:26:19.88
last second thoughts you
like to share with everybody
00:26:19.91\00:26:21.74
well do you. Well, one
other thing that was amazing
00:26:21.98\00:26:24.76
was we won't able to be at
her actual funeral service,
00:26:24.83\00:26:29.77
but the Spanish man who
had been helping us with
00:26:30.39\00:26:34.04
the Bible studies. He
asked the family members if it
00:26:34.08\00:26:37.01
was okay if he passed
out some books to the family.
00:26:37.08\00:26:40.00
So, that day he passed
out 30 great controversies and
00:26:40.55\00:26:44.06
30 Desire of Ages to the
family members. So. Amen.
00:26:44.36\00:26:47.97
Yeah, God worked big.
And the Lord brings a lot of
00:26:49.14\00:26:51.47
people in our paths and
we need to be aware of that
00:26:51.68\00:26:54.73
situation around us all
the time that person might be
00:26:54.89\00:26:57.71
there for a special reason
at a special time. That God
00:26:57.90\00:27:01.00
could use us to touch
their lives. Well, thank you and
00:27:01.03\00:27:03.56
God bless. Good
evening ASI. Good evening.
00:27:03.70\00:27:18.85
It's a great pleasure for
us coming from Europe to be
00:27:19.37\00:27:22.53
here. This evening
sharing with you our experience
00:27:22.63\00:27:27.13
and how everything is
going in Europe. So, I have
00:27:27.28\00:27:30.70
with me on my left
side Ruben Dias, he is a ASI
00:27:30.82\00:27:33.92
Europe vice president
for marketing and growth and
00:27:34.04\00:27:36.68
Radim Passer that he is
the vice president for projects
00:27:36.84\00:27:40.96
and evangelism and my
name is Angel Duo, I'm the
00:27:40.99\00:27:43.89
president of ASI
Europe. So, we will have some
00:27:43.97\00:27:47.30
information from what is
going on in the old Europe,
00:27:47.48\00:27:50.78
so Ruben what do you
have for us? Good evening
00:27:50.92\00:27:53.40
ASI again. Good
evening. We are happy to be here
00:27:53.45\00:27:55.98
and I want to bring you
some fresh news about the
00:27:56.82\00:27:59.44
growth and what is
happening at ASI Europe,
00:27:59.57\00:28:02.60
although Europe, it has
a lot languages, different
00:28:03.18\00:28:07.33
cultures, there is a lot
of challenges, there are many
00:28:07.48\00:28:11.65
countries as you know. I
like to share a map right
00:28:11.83\00:28:15.34
now of the situation of
different chapters. We have
00:28:15.51\00:28:19.95
in total 20 chapters,
praise the Lord. We have 20
00:28:20.26\00:28:23.99
chapters now in Europe.
We had about 7, not about
00:28:24.12\00:28:28.89
exactly 17 last year
in different countries,
00:28:29.09\00:28:33.23
the main countries and
in this year we can show the
00:28:33.32\00:28:36.00
map again probably. We
can see three different
00:28:36.07\00:28:40.04
countries that ones that
are in red, yeah red, we have
00:28:40.13\00:28:45.89
Poland, Lithuania, and
Croatia. I just want to
00:28:46.04\00:28:50.53
share with you in the
next photo, an interesting
00:28:50.65\00:28:54.45
detail, for example Lithuania
we have right here today
00:28:54.77\00:28:57.47
the offices of Lithuania,
actually they were motivated
00:28:57.98\00:29:03.05
by a ASI member in
Australia. You see how the
00:29:03.93\00:29:07.54
Lord works and sometimes
we don't know the impact
00:29:07.58\00:29:11.17
that we have in different
people and this particular
00:29:11.34\00:29:14.03
group was motivated by
an ASI member in Australia
00:29:14.09\00:29:16.70
that made them to go
ahead and start their own
00:29:17.27\00:29:19.88
chapter of Lithuania.
Then we also have the case of
00:29:19.94\00:29:22.92
Poland with young
entrepreneurs that have
00:29:23.12\00:29:25.87
started this chapter
there. And in Croatia as you see
00:29:26.00\00:29:29.32
the photo here, we had a
meeting in April, this is
00:29:29.35\00:29:32.26
probably the quickest
start up ASI chapter that we can
00:29:32.34\00:29:38.09
see that in about two or
three months actually less
00:29:38.81\00:29:41.94
than three months that
chapter was established,
00:29:42.00\00:29:46.26
praise the Lord for
that. And Croatia is doing very
00:29:46.29\00:29:49.56
well, very well motivated
to move forward. We have
00:29:49.69\00:29:53.27
almost 1000 members,
1000 members in Europe and
00:29:53.37\00:29:58.12
although the challenge is
different cultures again and
00:29:58.32\00:30:00.80
different languages, I
think that the Lord is blessing
00:30:00.89\00:30:03.65
us tremendously. Amen.
So, Radim as I said he is
00:30:03.71\00:30:08.14
responsible for the
projects and the evangelism.
00:30:08.41\00:30:12.02
So, he has very
interesting stories for us. Good
00:30:12.15\00:30:16.70
evening ASI. Good
evening. We have two main
00:30:16.73\00:30:19.59
projects in Europe, one
is used for Jesus program
00:30:19.78\00:30:24.08
and second one is DVD
training for working in small
00:30:24.21\00:30:27.36
groups. I think we are
grateful to Lord because,
00:30:27.39\00:30:31.63
because use for Jesus
program is growing in many
00:30:32.90\00:30:35.64
countries in Europe. I
can mention Hungary, England,
00:30:35.77\00:30:39.99
Spain, France,
Portugal, I forgot may be Czech
00:30:40.23\00:30:45.05
Republic and I would
say even in the working in
00:30:45.11\00:30:49.89
small groups is in,
even in some other countries.
00:30:50.14\00:30:53.76
I can show you some
pictures from last year I'm
00:30:56.13\00:31:00.14
also president of
Czechoslovakia ASI and we
00:31:00.34\00:31:03.78
had in last year of
November 1st DVD training
00:31:03.81\00:31:06.98
program with more than
200 people. Many of them
00:31:07.01\00:31:11.30
committed to use this
series. And it was also my
00:31:11.53\00:31:18.15
blessing because I could
use first time in my life
00:31:18.22\00:31:22.49
twice during last year
DVD program in the complete
00:31:23.22\00:31:27.46
series in our country and
I could say 18 people made
00:31:27.66\00:31:33.95
decision for Baptism,
five were already Baptized and
00:31:34.03\00:31:40.23
more than 40 people are
studying on a regular basis
00:31:40.28\00:31:43.49
Bible. So, we hope many
of them will be baptized as
00:31:44.06\00:31:48.49
well. 10 people from our
country visited Tanzania,
00:31:48.62\00:31:52.68
Djibouti and to we held
five meetings this Spring,
00:31:53.59\00:31:58.86
five places and 116
people were baptized and it was
00:32:00.06\00:32:04.49
I think also a blessing
for many people in our country
00:32:04.90\00:32:08.03
and also in Tanzania, so
praise the Lord for all this
00:32:08.20\00:32:11.68
work. Amen. So, as you
see ASI Europe is active,
00:32:11.97\00:32:16.58
is working. We have
great challenges, because we
00:32:16.61\00:32:20.24
cover two divisions,
multilingual, multicultural,
00:32:20.27\00:32:23.70
it's not easy for us to
cover the whole territory,
00:32:24.38\00:32:27.85
but in any case we
are encouraging people to
00:32:28.23\00:32:30.86
become members of ASI
and we want to invite you
00:32:30.90\00:32:34.33
to our convention next
year. It, this convention we
00:32:34.69\00:32:39.05
have every two years
will be in south Germany in a
00:32:39.10\00:32:41.66
very special place in
Konstanz, a lot of you know
00:32:41.83\00:32:45.23
about the story of the
protestants movement of
00:32:45.26\00:32:50.34
that reformation. So,
Konstanz is a very important
00:32:50.38\00:32:53.19
place where Jan Hus was
killed. So, we will have
00:32:53.34\00:32:57.70
there our convention next
year mid-June. So, you are
00:32:57.80\00:33:00.88
all kindly invited we
would like to see you there and
00:33:01.15\00:33:04.68
in the mean time God
bless you all and enjoy this
00:33:04.71\00:33:08.18
convention as
every year we do. Amen.
00:33:08.26\00:33:11.52
Good evening. Good
evening. I love ASI, how about
00:33:25.48\00:33:28.40
you? Amen. Praise God.
You know I have a friend of
00:33:28.50\00:33:32.84
mine here with me. Tell
us your name. My name is
00:33:32.87\00:33:38.23
James Hartley. James,
where are you from. I'm from
00:33:38.45\00:33:41.44
Wildwood, North
Georgia just outside of
00:33:41.56\00:33:43.94
Chattanooga. And so
what do you do there in
00:33:44.18\00:33:47.06
Wildwood. Wildwood
is a location of our
00:33:47.80\00:33:50.43
headquarters for a
new ministry called LIGHT.
00:33:50.63\00:33:52.52
It's called its a acronym
for the Lay Institute for
00:33:52.98\00:33:55.11
Global Health Training.
So, you what kind of training
00:33:55.28\00:34:00.25
do you do? We offer
our short courses in help
00:34:00.67\00:34:03.93
evangelism. We do that
all over the world. Well,
00:34:04.00\00:34:08.14
all over the world,
so you're doing training,
00:34:08.17\00:34:11.55
are you training pastors?
Sometimes pastors sit in,
00:34:12.36\00:34:16.41
but our emphasis is on
training lay members because
00:34:16.54\00:34:19.43
we believe pastors
are alone are not equal to
00:34:19.46\00:34:21.96
spreading the gospel to
the whole world. So, we are
00:34:22.08\00:34:24.40
working to equip and
train lay members so they can
00:34:24.51\00:34:26.83
be involved in their
communities and in their
00:34:26.98\00:34:29.07
churches to win souls
for Jesus. So, when you train
00:34:29.16\00:34:34.58
these people I mean are
you train them like ten at a
00:34:34.61\00:34:37.14
time or are you doing
a few meetings you know
00:34:37.29\00:34:40.73
around the world in a
year. How do you do that? Sure,
00:34:41.28\00:34:43.89
well we emphasize
mostly a four week training
00:34:44.14\00:34:47.38
course. And we
usually have 20 to 30 students
00:34:47.48\00:34:52.37
because we're teaching
them to do health expos.
00:34:52.64\00:34:54.76
We are teaching them
about the health message.
00:34:55.17\00:34:58.54
teaching them how to
apply hydro therapy treatments,
00:34:59.05\00:35:02.41
massage, cooking classes.
It's very practical, it's very
00:35:02.66\00:35:05.53
hands on so we can't really
fit too many into a course.
00:35:05.81\00:35:08.99
So, you can't fit too
many people, how many people
00:35:09.99\00:35:13.10
attend on average, the
lay people, now these are Lay
00:35:13.68\00:35:16.75
People that he's training,
how many people usually
00:35:16.99\00:35:21.17
attend one and how long
is the training? Well, we do
00:35:21.25\00:35:24.19
it for a month. That's
our standard course. We also
00:35:24.24\00:35:27.23
have a six months training
course, but last year we did
00:35:27.52\00:35:30.60
42 one month training
courses. Now, how do we do
00:35:31.03\00:35:35.40
so many just because
what we are doing is really
00:35:35.48\00:35:37.94
offering mission
opportunities for graduates,
00:35:38.19\00:35:40.51
they come out of
schools like Wildwood Lifestyle
00:35:41.03\00:35:42.91
Centers or Uchee
Pines, LIFE, Lay Institute For
00:35:43.02\00:35:47.10
Evangelism and several
other schools, OCI, Outpost
00:35:47.17\00:35:50.41
Centers International
Schools around the world.
00:35:50.44\00:35:52.11
We are using those graduates
that have usually had at
00:35:52.34\00:35:54.36
least 4 to 6 months training
and we are giving them a
00:35:54.39\00:35:56.93
training package as, it's
a course that is 4 weeks long
00:35:57.05\00:36:01.42
and it's an intensive,
all day training where they
00:36:02.10\00:36:04.02
go through the essentials,
strip down essentials for
00:36:04.10\00:36:06.65
soul winning and
reaching people with the health
00:36:06.70\00:36:08.88
message and the Gospel
and so these courses we're
00:36:09.03\00:36:12.92
sending out teams of usually
3 and 4 teachers that will
00:36:12.99\00:36:16.60
train 20 to 30
students. So, it's kind of a
00:36:16.73\00:36:21.25
self-supporting
work. Yeah. In other words
00:36:21.77\00:36:24.83
everybody is kind to
helping everybody else and kind
00:36:25.35\00:36:27.95
of up the challenge. Yeah
that's right, that's right.
00:36:27.98\00:36:30.75
Although, the teachers
that we use they're usually
00:36:31.20\00:36:33.59
students that are coming
out and they have a personal
00:36:33.62\00:36:35.92
responsibility where
they're raising money for their
00:36:36.09\00:36:38.39
airfare. And some of
them are committing up to a
00:36:38.42\00:36:40.67
year in the mission field,
we still have some students
00:36:40.94\00:36:43.33
in India. We went there
in January where we did 12
00:36:43.65\00:36:47.90
one month courses
simultaneously over actually
00:36:48.09\00:36:51.04
January and February,
trained 350 lay members and
00:36:51.11\00:36:55.51
then we had several students,
we sent 30 missionaries
00:36:55.79\00:36:58.87
there and we still have
several that are working
00:36:59.02\00:37:01.30
there because we're
running three 6 month courses
00:37:01.36\00:37:03.56
there as well and we're
finishing those up soon.
00:37:03.59\00:37:06.18
Okay, so you're doing
that and when did you start
00:37:07.35\00:37:10.21
doing this training? We
initially started couple of
00:37:10.74\00:37:13.64
years ago, in 2008 we
did about 20 one month
00:37:13.67\00:37:16.51
courses. In the so in
the 20 one month courses how
00:37:16.57\00:37:21.51
many people did you
train? Maybe about 500.
00:37:21.54\00:37:23.76
About 500 lay people.
That's right. That took a
00:37:24.09\00:37:26.78
month out of their time
in the different countries.
00:37:26.96\00:37:29.88
Full commitment. And
what you in the next year.
00:37:29.98\00:37:32.82
Next year, 42. So, you
had 42 training session.
00:37:32.98\00:37:37.41
About how many
people you usually train.
00:37:37.59\00:37:38.56
Trained about a 1000
people. Trained about a 1000
00:37:38.58\00:37:40.77
people. Yeah and this
year we've done 46 one month
00:37:40.82\00:37:44.91
courses in all 6
continents. We are doing them in
00:37:45.00\00:37:47.78
Australia, Philippians,
Indonesia, all through Africa
00:37:48.12\00:37:53.26
and South Africa, Kenya,
Tanzania and then also in
00:37:53.46\00:37:57.57
Guatemala, Honduras,
Brazil, throughout in the
00:37:58.38\00:38:02.34
Caribbean, Bermuda,
Bahamas, in United States
00:38:02.61\00:38:05.32
and then in Europe,
Ireland, England, Italy,
00:38:05.35\00:38:09.68
Switzerland, yeah more
can't think of them all.
00:38:12.86\00:38:16.20
So, how many do you think
you're gonna to train this
00:38:16.41\00:38:18.72
year and what's the
goal for next year? Well,
00:38:18.82\00:38:21.30
this year we're hoping
to get 70 courses done and
00:38:21.35\00:38:24.42
train about 2500 and then
next year, we just hope it
00:38:24.74\00:38:27.46
keeps multiplying as we
just keep adding, we just
00:38:27.59\00:38:29.73
hope that the students,
it's kind of a design that the
00:38:29.88\00:38:31.99
students, that, we
train people to go out. So, we
00:38:32.07\00:38:34.83
pray it just multiplies so
that every Adventist can get
00:38:34.93\00:38:38.38
an opportunity to get
trained, because one thing
00:38:38.41\00:38:40.67
I notice I've been able to
travel to over 35 countries
00:38:40.70\00:38:45.19
and I've noticed in most
countries, most parts of the
00:38:45.22\00:38:47.62
world and our Church
members don't have a chance
00:38:47.70\00:38:50.23
for short Lay Training
courses it's usually the only
00:38:50.31\00:38:53.77
option is to go a four
year theology school to become
00:38:53.85\00:38:57.10
a pastor but that's
not allowed a lay training
00:38:57.13\00:38:58.90
courses. So, they apply to
the U.S. or Europe for this
00:38:59.13\00:39:02.30
courses. So, we want to
them to be trained in their
00:39:02.82\00:39:05.39
country, in their language.
So, we have a curriculum
00:39:05.42\00:39:08.06
that we're using that
we've developed from our
00:39:08.26\00:39:09.65
various schools we are
working with. And we're
00:39:10.01\00:39:11.79
translating into several
languages and we have it in
00:39:11.99\00:39:13.71
Portuguese and Spanish
and German and Russian.
00:39:13.98\00:39:16.52
So, what do you do in our
last moments here? Tell me
00:39:16.91\00:39:20.42
what you've added now
to the training program?
00:39:20.66\00:39:24.27
Yeah this is exciting.
That just started this week.
00:39:24.73\00:39:28.02
That's right. In
Guatemala we added a new feature
00:39:28.34\00:39:31.74
working with ASI, the
new beginnings training.
00:39:31.98\00:39:34.53
So we have, we did 4
one month courses going on
00:39:34.97\00:39:38.19
simultaneously with our
students in Guatemala and
00:39:38.31\00:39:40.32
Belize and then on the
weekends we bring all the
00:39:40.68\00:39:42.90
Church members that can
come for the DVD training.
00:39:43.02\00:39:45.49
So, we're training our
students to train the Church
00:39:45.71\00:39:48.18
to give the new
beginnings DVD which is also now
00:39:49.15\00:39:51.24
coupled with the Abundant
Living health talks which
00:39:51.75\00:39:53.43
we're excited
about. Which ASI added this
00:39:53.57\00:39:56.25
this year the
Abundant Living health
00:39:56.29\00:39:58.00
talks In the DVDs. That's right.
00:39:58.08\00:40:00.09
And so and the one that
we did that you, you just
00:40:00.12\00:40:03.48
did down in
Guatemala, how many different
00:40:03.51\00:40:05.81
Churches came to learn
about how to use the DVD?
00:40:05.84\00:40:09.46
We had 18 different
churches represented in
00:40:09.49\00:40:11.81
small groups and so
we trained 120 different
00:40:11.84\00:40:15.22
members in our one
month courses but then
00:40:15.25\00:40:18.34
we also invited we had
a big training of 200 that
00:40:18.37\00:40:21.16
came in for the DVD
and next week on next
00:40:21.19\00:40:23.99
Sabbath and Sunday
we're gonna run training
00:40:24.02\00:40:26.02
in Belize another
100 that will be trained.
00:40:26.05\00:40:28.40
So, I think next year as
things are developing and
00:40:28.93\00:40:33.01
we continue to add
the DVD I hope you guys
00:40:33.04\00:40:35.15
have a lot of DVDs for us 'cause
00:40:35.18\00:40:36.46
I think we will
need about 10,000.
00:40:36.49\00:40:38.09
10,000 DVD, can you
say Praise God? Praise God.
00:40:38.81\00:40:42.77
That's what we
are looking to do.
00:40:42.94\00:40:44.41
That's the training,
taking it out there and you know
00:40:44.44\00:40:47.82
it's listed in the offering
this year, but this is part
00:40:48.58\00:40:51.91
of what our offering
goes for is the DVDs and the
00:40:51.94\00:40:56.94
training that's going on
around the world that it's
00:40:56.97\00:41:00.60
exponentially
growing and this is just one
00:41:00.63\00:41:04.05
example of people
taking that DVD training and
00:41:04.08\00:41:08.47
how it's growing.
Amen. Thank you. Thank you.
00:41:08.50\00:41:11.48
And I have another
guest. Now I'll tell you I was a
00:41:19.46\00:41:22.28
little nervous for a
minute because he was, he was
00:41:22.31\00:41:25.07
back there and then
he was gone and I'm going
00:41:25.10\00:41:27.47
oh, oh. So, my
guest tell me who you are?
00:41:27.50\00:41:31.09
Hello Terry, my
name is Rodney MacCallum,
00:41:32.41\00:41:34.83
I am fortunate I didn't
speak with an accent but
00:41:37.74\00:41:40.31
all the Americans
do, because I'm from
00:41:40.34\00:41:42.50
Australia and
my background was a
00:41:42.53\00:41:49.65
rancher in Outback Australia.
00:41:50.30\00:41:52.73
So, you're a rancher
in Outback Australia.
00:41:53.01\00:41:55.64
And you are now
live where, Wyoming?
00:41:56.03\00:41:59.53
Detroit,
Michigan. Detroit, Michigan.
00:42:00.10\00:42:02.37
And what do you do
in Detroit, Michigan?
00:42:03.97\00:42:06.18
With another man by
the name of Sam Bonello,
00:42:09.28\00:42:11.92
who happens to be my
nephew and an American
00:42:12.21\00:42:16.20
Jerry Thomas we
have a ministry called
00:42:17.02\00:42:19.43
Advent Interfaith Initiative.
00:42:19.46\00:42:21.09
Advent Interfaith
Initiative. Now, the
00:42:22.00\00:42:23.92
Interfaith might throw
some people off but what
00:42:23.95\00:42:27.10
does Advent
interfaith Initiate do?
00:42:27.13\00:42:29.70
What's your focus?
Our focus is to take the
00:42:30.75\00:42:35.95
three angels messages
to the people of Islam.
00:42:35.98\00:42:39.36
The people of
Islam. Yes, to Muslims.
00:42:40.32\00:42:42.66
To Muslims. Well,
how do you do that?
00:42:43.50\00:42:47.44
We are very high
identity Adventists, we are
00:42:48.67\00:42:56.97
Seventh-day
Adventists. So, let me ask you a
00:42:57.00\00:42:59.01
question you're
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:42:59.04\00:43:00.59
So, you go to the people
and you started in Detroit
00:43:00.87\00:43:05.25
from what you said.
So, you go there, now
00:43:05.57\00:43:08.85
do you tell them
you're Seventh-day
00:43:08.88\00:43:10.13
Adventist or do you
hide? No, no, no, now we're
00:43:10.16\00:43:14.69
Seventh-day Adventists.
We'll go into a Mosque,
00:43:14.72\00:43:17.39
we'll introduce ourselves.
We, the first thing that
00:43:17.42\00:43:21.99
I learned is we are
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:43:22.02\00:43:23.92
So, you've
spoken in a Mosque? Yes.
00:43:23.95\00:43:27.50
As a Seventh Day Adventist.
As a Seventh Day Adventist,
00:43:27.53\00:43:29.86
yes, we're actually
invited to speak in a
00:43:29.89\00:43:34.94
mosque as a Seventh-day
Adventist to deliver a
00:43:34.97\00:43:39.14
message on whatever
we believed or whatever
00:43:39.17\00:43:42.38
I believed as a Seventh-
day Adventist that Islam
00:43:42.41\00:43:44.93
needed to hear. And I
was given 30 minutes and at
00:43:44.96\00:43:51.21
the end of the 30 minutes,
the leader of the Mosque
00:43:51.24\00:43:56.14
said to me to continue,
he said this is important,
00:43:56.90\00:44:02.10
continue, take as long
as you want, we'll abandon
00:44:02.71\00:44:05.13
the evening
program, so I spoke for
00:44:05.16\00:44:07.26
2 hours and 40 minutes.
00:44:07.29\00:44:09.22
Now, what did you speak on
for 2 hours and 40 minutes?
00:44:10.82\00:44:15.18
I explained who we are
as Seventh-day Adventists,
00:44:16.69\00:44:19.86
I certainly impressed
the importance of prophecy
00:44:20.39\00:44:24.31
and at the end of the lecture.
00:44:25.21\00:44:27.95
Like Daniel 2. I
started from, just
00:44:27.98\00:44:32.77
another view from
Genesis to Revelation
00:44:32.80\00:44:36.37
and at the end of it I was
invited to return to deliver
00:44:36.40\00:44:42.71
the prophetic
warning to Islam, so..
00:44:42.74\00:44:45.48
Wait a minute. You were
able to deliver a prophetic
00:44:45.94\00:44:50.82
warning to Islam
and they listened.
00:44:50.85\00:44:54.43
We've gone from Daniel
2 through Revelation 14
00:44:55.70\00:44:59.22
to this day plus
topical subjects. We have been
00:44:59.72\00:45:06.26
live streamed
throughout he Islamic world.
00:45:06.29\00:45:08.68
There's been no
problems, we've been
00:45:08.71\00:45:12.26
identified as the true
people of the book, the
00:45:12.29\00:45:15.20
book being the Bible,
that Seventh-day Adventists
00:45:15.23\00:45:18.50
are the true people of
the book. The leader of, that
00:45:18.53\00:45:24.74
particular leader had
visions to that effect and
00:45:24.77\00:45:29.26
it's interesting Terry
that we've been, he knows
00:45:32.84\00:45:38.49
who we are, that we
are Seventh-day Adventists.
00:45:38.52\00:45:41.13
So, we're not hiding
that we're Seventh-day
00:45:42.25\00:45:43.94
Adventists. You are
going into the Mosque; you are
00:45:43.97\00:45:45.80
talking to the
Muslims that as a Seventh-day
00:45:45.83\00:45:49.45
Adventist and
what we believe. Yup.
00:45:49.48\00:45:51.82
And they're interested
in the Three Angels Message.
00:45:51.85\00:45:54.88
Yes, and we
actually, we're only a small
00:45:55.45\00:46:00.28
ministry but we're
developing materials.
00:46:00.31\00:46:02.22
We have a DVD that
we actually debut in the
00:46:02.25\00:46:06.31
Mosque, show cased it
in the Mosque, they're
00:46:06.34\00:46:08.09
copying it and
they're distributing it.
00:46:08.12\00:46:12.78
So, they're distributing
a DVD that you helped
00:46:13.93\00:46:17.88
produce in the
Mosques. Alright, well.
00:46:17.91\00:46:21.85
And they're
happily receiving this.
00:46:22.57\00:46:25.83
Oh yes, yeah, yeah,
and we have some tracks, we
00:46:26.31\00:46:29.10
have some other
materials which you know you're
00:46:29.13\00:46:31.54
most welcome, people
are most welcome to the
00:46:31.57\00:46:33.49
booth to see. But, the
Sheik did give us a little
00:46:33.52\00:46:39.03
warning though, he
said, he said I know who you
00:46:39.06\00:46:41.57
are, but if you are
whom you claim be, how can
00:46:41.60\00:46:44.81
you be a 1500 years old
and Islam has never heard
00:46:44.84\00:46:47.51
of you, never heard of
Seventh-day Adventists,
00:46:47.54\00:46:49.32
but then he quickly went
on to say however he said
00:46:49.35\00:46:53.79
you have a responsibility
with your message to take
00:46:53.82\00:46:56.78
it to the world, a
responsibility to God,
00:46:56.81\00:46:59.09
otherwise you'll be
judged by God and we're
00:46:59.12\00:47:01.61
to take that message
unbridled. We are not to
00:47:01.64\00:47:07.37
compromise our
doctrines or our beliefs in any
00:47:09.06\00:47:12.38
shape of form. And
this, hold on, let me
00:47:12.41\00:47:15.15
interrupt you. This is
the leader or one of the local
00:47:15.18\00:47:19.44
leaders was telling
you this is what we as
00:47:19.47\00:47:23.77
Seventh-day
Adventists needed to do.
00:47:23.80\00:47:25.41
Yes, precisely.
And that particular
00:47:25.44\00:47:28.81
Mosque has profound
influence in the world and
00:47:28.84\00:47:33.36
they actually were
given, we gave them a copy of
00:47:34.06\00:47:38.44
the Great Controversy.
They read it, they had a
00:47:38.47\00:47:42.81
girl in the office
photocopy it six times,
00:47:42.84\00:47:46.19
it was stapled together,
two chapters at a time,
00:47:46.22\00:47:48.34
handed out throughout
the Mosque for the whole
00:47:48.37\00:47:50.25
Mosque to read
and his response was
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this is the most profound book.
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Can we say amen? Amen.
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This is, this stirs my
heart that these people would
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called the book that has
the greatest impact on our
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Church. And what
did they tell it,
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what did they say
about. The most profound book.
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The most
profound book, amen. Amen.
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You know again, this is
the type of thing that we
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support in our
offerings. This is members in
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action, these are
people who go and work in
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communities that we
thought would be very
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difficult to work
in and they have open
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arms when you go
in with the truth.
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