Hello and welcome, welcome to Our Pillars 00:01:02.41\00:01:05.90 of Our Faith continuing preaching God's word 00:01:05.93\00:01:09.22 here live from Thompsonville, Illinois 00:01:09.25\00:01:13.06 and to all the world praise the Lord. 00:01:13.09\00:01:15.94 Welcome, everyone of you those that are here 00:01:15.97\00:01:18.53 from different parts of the United States 00:01:18.56\00:01:21.18 and some from other countries. 00:01:21.21\00:01:22.61 Welcome and we also want to welcome our viewers 00:01:22.64\00:01:25.99 from around the world. 00:01:26.02\00:01:26.99 Thank you for joining us, we have the opportunity 00:01:27.00\00:01:30.46 to study God's word together. Our speaker for this hour 00:01:30.49\00:01:33.73 is Ty Gibson a wonderful message, which you will hear 00:01:33.76\00:01:37.27 about in just a moment, but first we want to go to 00:01:37.30\00:01:40.62 God's throne of grace through music 00:01:40.65\00:01:42.56 and I like to invite sister Tammy Chance 00:01:42.59\00:01:45.00 to come forward. We are going to hear beautiful music 00:01:45.03\00:01:48.39 from the heart of a person that loves the Lord. 00:01:48.42\00:01:51.51 From heart of a person that ministers through her music 00:01:51.54\00:01:55.22 and I would like to encourage you to hear the words 00:01:55.25\00:01:58.08 of this sermon and song by sister Tammy Chance 00:01:58.11\00:02:01.13 more than ever before. 00:02:01.16\00:02:03.09 You know it's true, I love you more than words 00:02:20.08\00:02:26.63 could ever show, but forgive me Lord for love at times. 00:02:26.66\00:02:34.17 I haven't told you so because you mean everything to me, 00:02:34.20\00:02:44.22 your presence I do I want to live each day 00:02:44.25\00:02:50.90 in such a way you know. I love you more and more. 00:02:50.93\00:02:58.96 More than ever before, Lord I love you. 00:02:58.99\00:03:08.40 More than ever before, Lord I need you. 00:03:08.43\00:03:17.72 More than ever before, I've got to tell you, 00:03:17.75\00:03:26.70 I love you now more than ever before. 00:03:27.94\00:03:36.85 I love you then, I love you now. 00:03:42.13\00:03:47.59 That much more love in hand, and 00:03:47.62\00:03:53.25 till the end between us, we find, he became my dream 00:03:53.28\00:03:59.88 let's find, and with each day 00:03:59.91\00:04:04.13 you will be in my way, your love never known before 00:04:04.28\00:04:11.08 I want to live each day, in such a way 00:04:11.11\00:04:16.72 you know I love you more and more. 00:04:16.75\00:04:21.63 More than ever before, Lord I love you 00:04:21.66\00:04:30.35 More than ever before, Lord I need you. 00:04:30.38\00:04:40.55 More than ever before, I've got to tell you 00:04:40.58\00:04:51.16 I love you now more than ever before. 00:04:51.19\00:05:00.30 More than ever before, I've got to tell you 00:05:00.33\00:05:11.13 I love you now, more 00:05:11.16\00:05:13.43 than ever before. 00:05:13.46\00:05:30.07 Amen. Where the outlines 00:05:31.81\00:05:35.28 people should have Amen when I'm preaching if possible. 00:05:35.31\00:05:39.57 He has given us many reasons to love him. 00:05:39.60\00:05:44.72 Amen, Amen. And continuing on this 00:05:44.75\00:05:49.66 we have the blessing of having Ty Gibson with us. 00:05:49.69\00:05:53.26 We praise the Lord that he was able to join us 00:05:53.29\00:05:55.42 for this camp meeting and Ty Gibson is a man 00:05:55.45\00:05:58.57 that loves the Lord as well, you can hear it 00:05:58.60\00:06:01.95 as you talk to him. You can sense that 00:06:01.98\00:06:05.34 as you listen to his sermons and you can also see that 00:06:05.37\00:06:08.92 as you read one of his books 00:06:08.95\00:06:09.92 that he has a connection with the Lord. 00:06:10.77\00:06:12.95 I would like to invite Ty Gibson to come forward 00:06:12.98\00:06:16.00 and he is going to present a message from God's word. 00:06:16.03\00:06:19.62 I encourage you to follow along in scriptures 00:06:19.65\00:06:21.93 and we leave the time with you 00:06:21.96\00:06:24.18 in the message a God named desire. 00:06:24.21\00:06:28.81 Amen. May Lord bless you. 00:06:28.84\00:06:29.95 Thank you. Thank you John, how is everybody. 00:06:29.98\00:06:32.72 Great. How many of you actually like this humidity 00:06:32.75\00:06:36.48 anybody, I went for a walk 00:06:36.51\00:06:39.46 with a couple of friends of mine last evening and 00:06:39.49\00:06:41.87 as we were walking the fireflies were beautiful. 00:06:41.90\00:06:44.68 Aren't they? Just, just these little electrical creatures 00:06:44.71\00:06:49.81 that flash in the night that was beautiful, 00:06:49.84\00:06:52.61 the sound the crickets that pretty nice isn't it? 00:06:52.64\00:06:55.75 Oh! Just a nice sound, we even heard some 00:06:55.78\00:06:57.97 baritone crickets last night. 00:06:58.00\00:07:00.77 But as I was walking with these friends 00:07:02.88\00:07:05.58 my precious sister Cheryl she said. 00:07:05.61\00:07:08.46 Oh! I just love this weather, this, this, this, 00:07:08.49\00:07:11.70 I said even the humidity yes even the humidity, 00:07:11.73\00:07:14.58 I have to make a confession I said 00:07:14.61\00:07:16.58 something kind of not nice about this area. 00:07:16.61\00:07:19.57 I shouldn't have said This, but I said, 00:07:19.60\00:07:20.71 I said you know what I think the first thing that I do 00:07:20.74\00:07:23.48 if I lived here is move. 00:07:23.51\00:07:24.73 That's the first thing, that's the first thing 00:07:25.84\00:07:28.08 I do, is move. I don't know I don't 00:07:28.11\00:07:32.55 like to actually feel the air when I go 00:07:32.58\00:07:36.61 outside I don't like it to grab me and anyways. 00:07:36.64\00:07:40.19 But, I think I move back real quick 00:07:40.22\00:07:42.12 because the people are so nice here, have so many 00:07:42.15\00:07:45.11 good friends here what a blessing. 00:07:45.14\00:07:46.78 Are you eager to launch into the God's word? 00:07:46.81\00:07:48.69 Amen. I want to tell you if you 00:07:48.72\00:07:50.26 have attended any of the regional or the National 00:07:50.29\00:07:54.57 ASI convention this is just a little disclaimer 00:07:54.60\00:07:57.42 at the beginning here. If you have attended 00:07:57.45\00:07:59.11 any of those ASI conventions some of you actually 00:07:59.14\00:08:01.69 may have heard the short version of this message, 00:08:01.72\00:08:05.00 I apologize in advance I want you to know, 00:08:05.03\00:08:07.49 I want to know however that if you begin to get 00:08:07.52\00:08:10.60 little drowsier, bored 00:08:10.63\00:08:11.66 because it's familiar information. 00:08:11.69\00:08:13.56 Please understand that if anybody ought to be bored 00:08:13.59\00:08:15.85 it's me, I have heard it every single time 00:08:15.88\00:08:19.36 I have delivered it. 00:08:19.39\00:08:20.48 And I am not bored with it because this is a 00:08:20.51\00:08:23.84 powerful truth that gives us insight into the way 00:08:23.87\00:08:28.14 God has made us and what it is 00:08:28.17\00:08:30.80 that we are made for, we are going to discover 00:08:30.83\00:08:33.93 in our time together that you and I 00:08:33.96\00:08:36.76 Literally, we are psychologically, emotionally 00:08:36.79\00:08:40.74 and even biologically we are engineered 00:08:40.77\00:08:44.98 for a relationship with God so we are gonna launch 00:08:45.01\00:08:47.80 into that just now, but let's pray. 00:08:47.83\00:08:48.99 Father in heaven, we open our hearts to you, 00:08:49.02\00:08:51.64 we want to know you more intelligently Lord 00:08:51.67\00:08:55.86 permeates our intellects in a rationale faculties 00:08:55.89\00:08:59.66 with insights that will ignite for you a deeper 00:08:59.69\00:09:03.77 and more increasingly passionate love 00:09:03.80\00:09:08.16 for you Lord. We want to know you as you are, 00:09:08.19\00:09:11.37 please send your Holy Spirit to preside 00:09:11.40\00:09:14.58 over this meeting over everyone of our hearts 00:09:14.61\00:09:16.64 and minds Lord and give me grace 00:09:16.67\00:09:18.86 to speak for you effectively Lord. 00:09:18.89\00:09:21.65 May your word be powerful in our understanding 00:09:21.68\00:09:24.79 in Jesus name. Amen. 00:09:24.82\00:09:27.68 Well, I want to set the topic up 00:09:27.71\00:09:30.26 this afternoon by making some observations 00:09:30.29\00:09:34.19 about human nature and in order to get 00:09:34.22\00:09:36.65 there I need to tell you that according to my precious wife 00:09:40.71\00:09:41.68 Sue, precious as she has, she has leveled 00:09:41.69\00:09:43.63 an acquisition against me. 00:09:43.66\00:09:45.09 She thinks I am weird for a guy. 00:09:45.12\00:09:48.50 I said baby why? Why do you think I'm weird? 00:09:50.02\00:09:52.03 She said because you like shopping. 00:09:52.06\00:09:54.19 You are not suppose to like shopping, 00:09:54.22\00:09:56.35 shopping is a traditionally female venture 00:09:56.38\00:10:00.92 and it's just strange that you like shopping 00:10:00.95\00:10:04.31 being a guy in all. 00:10:04.34\00:10:06.04 Now, here's the thing to make it even 00:10:06.07\00:10:07.75 more un-guy like, I guess. 00:10:07.78\00:10:09.98 It's not the tool store, the boat store 00:10:10.01\00:10:12.65 or the car store that I like shopping at? 00:10:12.68\00:10:14.88 It's a grocery store and any grocery store will 00:10:15.80\00:10:20.52 do really. In fact I think that the reason my wife 00:10:20.55\00:10:25.58 has this problem with me is because she is, 00:10:25.61\00:10:30.22 she is aware the fact that I shop better than her. 00:10:30.25\00:10:33.07 I'm actually a better shopper, I'll tell you 00:10:34.30\00:10:36.37 why because I do it methodically. 00:10:36.40\00:10:38.65 I enter the grocery store, I always start 00:10:39.14\00:10:41.52 to my right and I make my way up and down 00:10:41.55\00:10:44.01 every single aisle on every visit, where 00:10:44.04\00:10:47.89 as my wife on the other hand she shops like a man. 00:10:47.92\00:10:51.05 She has a short mental lift she enters the premises 00:10:52.52\00:10:55.14 and she kind a spot shops consequently, 00:10:55.17\00:10:59.46 she often forgets things that we need 00:10:59.49\00:11:02.05 and consequently she never discovers 00:11:02.62\00:11:05.54 any new yummy stuff. 00:11:05.57\00:11:10.20 Where as my method you never forget anything 00:11:11.48\00:11:14.31 because you see everything, so it triggers your memory 00:11:14.34\00:11:17.93 yeah we need that yes we need that 00:11:17.96\00:11:19.80 and I have made so many great discoveries 00:11:19.83\00:11:23.44 in the grocery store some of which 00:11:23.47\00:11:26.03 have been introduced into our permanent diet 00:11:26.06\00:11:30.01 and that would not be the case if I did not 00:11:30.04\00:11:33.06 go occasionally. She doesn't want me going, 00:11:33.09\00:11:35.36 when I see her kind of trying to slip out the door 00:11:35.39\00:11:39.49 and I know she is going grocery shopping, 00:11:39.52\00:11:41.46 I will say. Hey Sue, can I go. 00:11:42.85\00:11:44.33 And she only says in a rather, rather emphatic tone, 00:11:46.27\00:11:48.89 no, I'm in a hurry. I just need to get the stuff and 00:11:48.92\00:11:52.33 get home, but occasionally 00:11:52.36\00:11:56.09 occasionally, she has allowed me to go. 00:11:56.12\00:11:59.57 She said okay I'll stay home and you go. 00:11:59.60\00:12:02.25 I don't want to go with You, but you can go 00:12:02.28\00:12:06.10 by yourself and on this one occasion 00:12:06.33\00:12:08.38 she sent me on the mission to secure some salsa 00:12:08.55\00:12:12.68 for the Mexican dinner she was going to make that evening. 00:12:12.71\00:12:16.52 She said please hurry you don't need to go up 00:12:16.55\00:12:18.66 and down every aisle, just go get the salsa and get home. 00:12:18.69\00:12:21.69 So, I was so excited to have her permission 00:12:21.72\00:12:26.32 I rush to the grocery store, 00:12:27.29\00:12:29.15 I went straight to the salsa aisle 00:12:29.18\00:12:31.92 resisting the temptation to go up and down 00:12:31.95\00:12:33.84 every aisle and went straight to the salsa aisle 00:12:33.87\00:12:36.10 to prove that I could went necessary shop 00:12:36.70\00:12:38.93 like a man, but as I entered the salsa aisle, 00:12:38.96\00:12:43.98 I experience a deterrent to my mission 00:12:44.01\00:12:48.68 there was a woman who was very studiously 00:12:48.71\00:12:51.84 focused on the salsa and bodily 00:12:51.87\00:12:55.46 she was positioned of course in front of the salsa. 00:12:55.49\00:12:58.56 So, what was I to do I couldn't be in a hurry 00:12:58.59\00:13:01.90 I had to exercise of course proper grocery 00:13:01.93\00:13:04.59 store etiquette. Nobody should ever feel your breath 00:13:04.62\00:13:08.07 on the back of their neck in the grocery store. 00:13:08.10\00:13:10.83 So, I came up behind her just slightly 00:13:10.86\00:13:15.16 off to her left of course may be I don't know 00:13:15.19\00:13:18.67 a foot and a half two feet back behind her 00:13:18.70\00:13:21.18 and I just stood appearing forward over her shoulder 00:13:21.21\00:13:23.38 looking at the salsa options making my selection 00:13:23.41\00:13:25.97 ahead of time so that when she was done 00:13:26.00\00:13:28.03 I can just grab the salsa head 00:13:28.06\00:13:29.41 to the check outstand and be home. 00:13:29.44\00:13:30.98 But then suddenly something completely 00:13:31.29\00:13:34.28 unexpected and actually it was a kind of frightening 00:13:34.31\00:13:37.27 happened as she stood there looking at the salsa herself 00:13:37.30\00:13:40.97 and I stood there looking at the salsa suddenly out of 00:13:41.00\00:13:44.06 no where this woman reached back her left hand 00:13:44.09\00:13:48.76 and tenderly clashed mine in hers. 00:13:48.79\00:13:51.72 I was stunned, I was so nervous 00:13:56.68\00:14:01.55 that I clutched her hand a little tighter. 00:14:01.58\00:14:04.49 Now, of course it was flattering, but 00:14:07.41\00:14:09.57 here's the thing she was focus on the salsa 00:14:09.60\00:14:14.38 she didn't release that this was a mistake 00:14:14.41\00:14:17.73 and then, and then as she is holding my hand 00:14:17.76\00:14:21.26 she says in a rather romantic tone I might add, 00:14:21.29\00:14:24.43 she says medium or hot Sweetie Pie, 00:14:24.46\00:14:28.82 Now as you might imagine I am immediately in a quandary. 00:14:33.74\00:14:39.77 I'm in psychological melt down, 00:14:41.11\00:14:43.07 emotionally I'm being damaged right now. 00:14:43.10\00:14:48.91 So, we stand there holding hands, 00:14:49.87\00:14:51.41 and in my quandary I'm having to figure out 00:14:51.44\00:14:55.79 what to do because on the one hand I know I'm not him, 00:14:55.82\00:15:01.00 I'm not sweetie pie, he is somewhere else 00:15:01.03\00:15:04.27 in the grocery store making new discoveries. 00:15:04.30\00:15:06.62 On the other hand, I have very, very definite opinions 00:15:07.22\00:15:12.95 about salsa and she did ask after all 00:15:12.98\00:15:17.81 medium or hot and I preferred mild so 00:15:19.24\00:15:22.66 that you can taste all the shuttle fusion 00:15:22.69\00:15:25.19 of the salatrim, the tomatoes and onions 00:15:25.22\00:15:27.07 and the garlic and if it's too hot 00:15:27.10\00:15:28.53 you can't taste all of those flavors. Can I get an Amen. 00:15:28.56\00:15:33.22 Amen. On my own Salsa, okay, 00:15:35.51\00:15:36.48 so as I am standing there trying to figure out 00:15:36.49\00:15:38.66 what to do of course you have to understand this all 00:15:38.69\00:15:39.66 happened in slow motion, in about three seconds 00:15:41.08\00:15:43.91 just as she says medium or hot sweetie pie, 00:15:43.94\00:15:47.15 she is in mid turn and in full pucker, 00:15:47.18\00:15:52.83 this lady is about to plant one on me 00:15:52.86\00:16:02.26 and of course I am a committed 00:16:04.39\00:16:06.58 Seventh-Day Adventist Christian 00:16:06.61\00:16:07.77 and I can't let that happen 00:16:07.80\00:16:09.12 and so I immediately began to blurt out 00:16:12.70\00:16:17.34 as my head cranes back toward the spaghetti sauce 00:16:17.37\00:16:20.20 still holding her hand so nervous 00:16:20.23\00:16:22.95 that it's getting tighter. 00:16:22.98\00:16:24.14 I say actually mam I prefer mild 00:16:26.37\00:16:28.22 and just than our eyes meet and she sucks in her pucker 00:16:30.56\00:16:37.38 and leaves my clutched hand into with hers 00:16:37.41\00:16:46.01 and froze my hand from her presence 00:16:46.04\00:16:49.79 as if I have a disease or something. 00:16:49.82\00:16:51.36 She is shocked no doubt, I know it was a traumatic 00:16:52.82\00:16:56.84 experience for me and for her. I thought 00:16:56.87\00:16:58.95 it was hurry for her, it was traumatic for me try 00:16:58.98\00:17:03.84 making a salsa selection in those circumstance is hard. 00:17:03.87\00:17:09.47 Anyways, she rushes out of the salsa aisle looking 00:17:09.50\00:17:13.75 for her true love just like all of us 00:17:13.78\00:17:17.47 are, which is the point, which is the point. 00:17:17.50\00:17:22.47 Two things donned on me as I was making my way 00:17:22.50\00:17:25.24 to my car after securing my salsa selection. 00:17:25.46\00:17:29.21 Two things were going through my mind 00:17:29.24\00:17:31.21 the first one you've already guessed it, I'm hoping that 00:17:31.24\00:17:32.21 sweetie pie is a 6.6 of solid muscle covered 00:17:34.39\00:17:37.06 with tattoos looking for the troupe 00:17:37.09\00:17:39.11 that held his girls hand in the salsa aisle. 00:17:39.14\00:17:41.15 So, I'm really in a hurry to get home 00:17:41.18\00:17:43.85 now, but the second thing that I'm thinking is wow! 00:17:43.88\00:17:52.58 That's all of our situation, every single 00:17:52.61\00:17:58.39 one of us, listen to me carefully now 00:17:58.42\00:18:00.16 every single one of us are wired 00:18:00.19\00:18:03.97 in such a way that we have relationships 00:18:04.00\00:18:09.38 that are of an intimate nature close friends, 00:18:09.41\00:18:13.58 our grandma, grandpa, an aunty and uncle, 00:18:13.61\00:18:17.50 a mom and dad, little grandchild 00:18:17.53\00:18:21.74 and we all have matrimonial ties or matrimonial hopes. 00:18:21.77\00:18:27.46 We all crave true love, we all want it 00:18:28.46\00:18:35.51 at the most bedrock level of our sentient human souls, 00:18:35.54\00:18:36.51 we crave that, we must have it in fact or we die. 00:18:41.16\00:18:47.01 And science is actually making this discovery 00:18:47.04\00:18:51.90 and about the last 10 to 15 years science, 00:18:52.64\00:18:56.33 which has been tilted heavily toward a survival of the 00:18:56.36\00:19:00.69 fittest, evolutionary world view in which by the way 00:19:00.72\00:19:04.90 the highest law of human nature is self preservation. 00:19:04.93\00:19:08.30 Am I right? In that world view 00:19:08.33\00:19:12.25 listen there is no such thing as love, 00:19:12.28\00:19:17.05 Richard Dawkins one of the most 00:19:17.92\00:19:19.61 prominent atheist and advocates 00:19:19.64\00:19:21.63 of atheism in our time, himself a biological scientist. 00:19:21.66\00:19:27.38 Richard Dawkins says that the experience of love 00:19:28.12\00:19:31.08 in human experience, love is an illusion 00:19:31.11\00:19:35.62 he says, there is no such thing as love 00:19:35.65\00:19:38.92 when a person purports to love someone else 00:19:38.95\00:19:42.11 this is merely evolutionary process operating 00:19:42.14\00:19:46.96 at a more sophisticated level in order to secure 00:19:46.99\00:19:51.07 the advantage in the relationship. 00:19:51.10\00:19:54.53 So, ultimately he says that what we call love is 00:19:54.56\00:19:57.74 merely a more sophisticated version of selfishness. 00:19:57.77\00:20:02.80 This is all evolutionary science can do it, it's 00:20:02.83\00:20:08.10 all they know to do with this phenomenon called love 00:20:08.13\00:20:13.53 that we human beings experience universally 00:20:13.56\00:20:17.05 to one degree or another and even when we are not 00:20:17.08\00:20:20.66 experiencing it, we are yearning for it. 00:20:20.69\00:20:23.91 Wishing for it, praying for it, wishing that we 00:20:23.94\00:20:29.42 had some close friend in whom we can invest 00:20:29.45\00:20:35.19 our loyalty and whom we can trust and experience 00:20:35.22\00:20:39.60 all the beautiful new answers of two human beings 00:20:39.63\00:20:43.61 genuinely caring one for the other more than themselves. 00:20:43.64\00:20:49.44 Well, science doesn't know what to do with 00:20:49.47\00:20:52.42 this accumulating data that is coming on to the table 00:20:52.45\00:20:56.59 before as you should have an outline in hand 00:20:56.62\00:20:58.65 and I am hoping you have a outline in hand. 00:20:58.68\00:21:00.05 Entitled the God name Desire, 00:21:00.08\00:21:01.57 how many of you have that outline? 00:21:01.60\00:21:02.77 Wave that outline, I want to make sure that Oh! 00:21:02.80\00:21:04.90 wow efficiency everybody has an outline. I want you to 00:21:04.93\00:21:10.58 notice with me a book entitled love and survival 00:21:10.61\00:21:15.37 please note the title of this book, notice the title 00:21:15.40\00:21:18.32 of this book makes it very, very interesting 00:21:18.35\00:21:22.70 jerks the position of two words, Love and what's the 00:21:22.73\00:21:25.73 other word survival, this is fascinating. 00:21:25.76\00:21:28.35 The author of the book is Dr. Dean Ornish, 00:21:28.87\00:21:32.02 we are going to discover in just a moment 00:21:32.05\00:21:33.76 that Dr. Dean Ornish does not believe in the existence 00:21:33.79\00:21:36.61 of a personal third party God who exist adjacent 00:21:36.64\00:21:40.71 to human beings some where in reality. 00:21:40.74\00:21:43.98 In other words he doesn't believe that God 00:21:44.01\00:21:47.03 exists as a being distinct from creation itself 00:21:47.06\00:21:52.94 and humanity itself. We will discover 00:21:52.97\00:21:55.03 that in just a moment, but that's a little bit 00:21:55.06\00:21:57.03 of background on Dean Ornish. 00:21:57.06\00:21:58.41 Some of you are into the health message 00:21:58.44\00:22:00.61 you've heard of the Dr. Dean Ornish 00:22:00.64\00:22:02.36 because he is the physician and scientist, who 00:22:02.39\00:22:05.48 discovered through multiple studies that heart disease 00:22:05.51\00:22:09.08 could be reversed by lifestyle changes 00:22:09.11\00:22:12.04 such as an exercise regime and nutritious food. 00:22:12.07\00:22:15.34 Right. That's his claim to fame, 00:22:15.37\00:22:17.71 but his first love is not the health 00:22:17.74\00:22:20.78 of the biological heart by the health of the emotional 00:22:20.81\00:22:24.52 and psychological heart. 00:22:24.55\00:22:25.84 So, years before Dr. Dean Ornish began his 00:22:25.87\00:22:29.70 research on the biological heart the doctor began 00:22:29.73\00:22:33.62 accumulating evidence and information to demonstrate 00:22:33.65\00:22:38.10 the thesis of his book love and survivor, 00:22:38.13\00:22:40.76 which by the way went straight to the New York times 00:22:40.79\00:22:42.84 best sellers list as you might expect 00:22:42.87\00:22:45.04 because of the topic, human beings are 00:22:45.07\00:22:48.66 universally hungry for love and we 00:22:48.69\00:22:53.40 intuitively know, in our hearts and minds 00:22:53.43\00:22:57.06 that we are utterly and completely dependent 00:22:57.09\00:23:00.75 on love for our survival. 00:23:00.78\00:23:02.58 So, when we see those two words adjacent 00:23:02.61\00:23:05.86 to one other Love and Survival, 00:23:05.89\00:23:07.17 I'll tell you what I'm picked that book up, 00:23:07.20\00:23:09.05 and so did millions of people. 00:23:09.08\00:23:12.61 Notice on page 29, it's in your outline 00:23:12.64\00:23:15.12 this is information I wanted you to have, 00:23:15.15\00:23:16.99 so you can make use of it yourself. Notice page 29, 00:23:17.02\00:23:20.81 this is the basic thesis of Dr. Ornish's book 00:23:20.84\00:23:24.57 anything that promotes feelings of love and intimacy 00:23:24.60\00:23:30.05 is what? What's the word he uses, 00:23:30.08\00:23:31.71 healing. Anything that promotes isolation, 00:23:31.74\00:23:37.01 separation, loneliness, loss, hostility, anger, 00:23:37.04\00:23:41.10 cynicism, depression, alienation, 00:23:41.13\00:23:44.98 that is relational breakdown and related feelings 00:23:45.01\00:23:49.28 often leads to what suffering disease 00:23:49.31\00:23:54.91 and premature death from all causes, 00:23:54.94\00:23:58.03 every human being without exception 00:23:58.06\00:24:01.80 Dr. Ornish is telling us, we will experience 00:24:01.83\00:24:05.71 in a climate, in an atmosphere, in a world 00:24:05.74\00:24:08.59 of intimacy and love. We will experience 00:24:08.62\00:24:12.79 greater health, he goes on to demonstrate that 00:24:12.82\00:24:17.14 a person, who lives in social connections that are involving 00:24:17.17\00:24:23.35 trust and loyalty and affection 00:24:23.38\00:24:25.93 that these individuals by enlarge are better 00:24:25.96\00:24:29.51 equipped biologically to fight off any disease 00:24:29.54\00:24:32.51 that they might be predispose to. 00:24:32.54\00:24:35.61 So they done controlled studies 00:24:35.64\00:24:37.45 and they've actually shown that an individual who 00:24:37.48\00:24:40.36 lives in isolation and anger and loneliness 00:24:40.39\00:24:44.66 who is predisposed to heart disease for example 00:24:44.69\00:24:48.63 is much more likely to die of that cause 00:24:48.66\00:24:53.16 in their isolation and loneliness. 00:24:53.19\00:24:54.84 Where as an individual who is equally 00:24:55.21\00:24:57.78 predisposed to heart disease for example 00:24:57.81\00:25:00.43 who lives in an environment of affection 00:25:00.46\00:25:03.23 and love and intimacy surrounded with friends 00:25:03.26\00:25:05.64 and outgoing other center service that individual 00:25:05.67\00:25:09.04 is far more likely to survive the on slots of heart 00:25:09.07\00:25:14.00 disease and their body will be better 00:25:14.03\00:25:16.04 equipped to fight it off. 00:25:16.07\00:25:17.55 It's amazing, this is hard science. 00:25:17.58\00:25:21.04 In fact, Dr. Ornish demonstrates that literally 00:25:21.07\00:25:24.56 the white blood cell count that is your immune systems 00:25:24.59\00:25:28.36 ability to fight off disease, the white blood cell 00:25:28.39\00:25:31.21 count literally goes up in your body 00:25:31.24\00:25:35.04 through the simple exercise of affectionate touch. 00:25:35.07\00:25:41.79 Touch the person next to you, touch them, just 00:25:42.71\00:25:45.91 hold hands with somebody you could hold hands with 00:25:45.94\00:25:48.61 okay, be careful remember the lady in the 00:25:48.64\00:25:52.20 salsa aisle it's dangerous. Okay, I want, I want you 00:25:52.23\00:25:55.98 know something even though, even though you may not 00:25:56.01\00:25:58.36 be conscious of it that simple act of you know 00:25:58.39\00:26:01.42 I walk up to one of the buddies and I put my hand 00:26:01.45\00:26:02.97 on his shoulder. David just came back stage 00:26:03.00\00:26:05.86 before I was to come out here and he put his arms 00:26:05.89\00:26:08.09 around me and he hugged me tight 00:26:08.12\00:26:09.85 and my wife blood cell count went up. 00:26:09.88\00:26:11.58 I was in conscious of it at the moment 00:26:13.32\00:26:16.25 but the fact is that because of my interaction 00:26:16.28\00:26:21.41 with David just moments ago, I am better 00:26:21.44\00:26:23.90 equipped to fight off anything that 00:26:23.93\00:26:26.67 might be come in my way today. 00:26:26.70\00:26:30.89 This is what's being demonstrated. 00:26:30.92\00:26:32.55 Now, why are we like this? Why are human beings 00:26:32.58\00:26:36.07 dependent on intimacy and love 00:26:36.10\00:26:41.23 for their health and survival? 00:26:41.26\00:26:43.82 Notice page 22, backing up a few pages 00:26:43.85\00:26:46.57 in Ornish's book he says the scientific evidence 00:26:46.60\00:26:49.92 leaves little doubt that love and intimacy 00:26:49.95\00:26:53.93 or powerful determinants of our what? 00:26:53.96\00:26:59.39 Health and Survival. Now I want you to notice 00:26:59.42\00:27:03.64 carefully the word why italicized, I didn't italicized 00:27:03.67\00:27:09.45 the word in the book it's italicized, 00:27:09.48\00:27:11.41 this word is italicized for emphasis 00:27:11.44\00:27:14.39 by Dr. Dean Ornish, he is saying here the scientific 00:27:14.42\00:27:18.90 evidence leaves little doubt that we are dependent 00:27:18.93\00:27:22.55 on love and survival, on love and intimacy 00:27:22.58\00:27:24.73 for our survival and health and then he says 00:27:24.76\00:27:27.14 but why, why they have such an impact 00:27:27.17\00:27:33.63 remains what, somewhat a mystery, now 00:27:33.66\00:27:36.09 now I want to ask you is it a mystery to you? 00:27:36.12\00:27:40.33 Those of us gathered here today for this event 00:27:40.36\00:27:43.09 digging into God's word and seeking intimacy 00:27:43.12\00:27:47.47 with a third party personal God of the universe 00:27:47.50\00:27:51.36 is it really all that mysterious to you? 00:27:51.39\00:27:53.87 Does it comes as surprise to you that biologically we are 00:27:53.90\00:27:57.65 wired for affection and love. Is that surprising to you, 00:27:57.68\00:28:00.37 why is it not surprising to you? 00:28:00.40\00:28:02.43 Well because you already hold a world view, yes? 00:28:03.26\00:28:06.84 A world view in which love and intimacy 00:28:06.87\00:28:11.94 between individuals has it's roots in a God 00:28:11.97\00:28:18.80 of love and intimacy father, son and Holy Spirit 00:28:18.83\00:28:21.51 who have existed in try you in fellowship 00:28:21.54\00:28:24.94 for all eternity past, right. And have been existed 00:28:24.97\00:28:29.41 for all eternity past in this beautiful 00:28:29.44\00:28:31.84 hub and flow of other centered 00:28:31.87\00:28:33.78 self giving love. Father, son and spirit 00:28:33.81\00:28:36.49 moving in circular motion giving, giving, giving 00:28:36.52\00:28:39.66 and receiving, receiving, receiving from 00:28:39.69\00:28:42.23 one and another that's the matrix of reality friends, 00:28:42.26\00:28:45.39 that is the ultimate reality from which we hale, 00:28:45.42\00:28:50.10 we proceeded out of the womb of 00:28:50.13\00:28:55.18 the creative energy of God and God is love, 00:28:55.21\00:28:59.45 so it doesn't come as surprise to you and me. 00:28:59.48\00:29:02.46 That love and intimacy would prove to be such powerful 00:29:02.49\00:29:07.11 influences in a human beings life, 00:29:07.14\00:29:09.95 but why it is a mystery to Dr. Dean Ornish 00:29:09.98\00:29:12.29 and to most of the scientific community. 00:29:12.32\00:29:15.00 Because friends the world view that 00:29:15.03\00:29:18.12 is presupposed is the evolutionary world view 00:29:18.15\00:29:21.45 and in the evolutionary world view again 00:29:21.48\00:29:25.33 biological deduction, if we are mere 00:29:25.36\00:29:28.28 biological survival machines that's all, if we are mere 00:29:28.31\00:29:33.04 biological survival machines and the highest law 00:29:33.07\00:29:36.53 of our being itself preservation 00:29:36.56\00:29:39.64 move follow or get out of the way. 00:29:39.67\00:29:41.66 Survival of the fittest I just happened 00:29:42.82\00:29:46.83 to be my favorite person and you had better 00:29:46.86\00:29:48.79 watch out as I climb to the top 00:29:48.82\00:29:52.98 and rungs on the ladder may be your heads 00:29:53.01\00:29:55.92 that is the evolutionary world view 00:29:55.95\00:29:59.42 in that world of view their could be biological deduction 00:29:59.45\00:30:02.95 no such thing is a truly altruistic love. 00:30:02.98\00:30:07.44 There couldn't be anything like other centeredness 00:30:07.47\00:30:10.76 because in the evolutionary world view 00:30:10.79\00:30:12.98 what would other centeredness equate to? 00:30:13.01\00:30:16.62 Somebody said it suicide, we would not be 00:30:16.65\00:30:22.08 able if love is the primary constituent of human 00:30:22.11\00:30:27.27 experience, we wouldn't be able to experience the 00:30:27.30\00:30:30.68 advancement of the human race 00:30:30.71\00:30:32.47 if people actually loved one and another. 00:30:32.50\00:30:35.22 So it's a mystery to the scientific community 00:30:36.68\00:30:40.64 at large, why it is that all of this data seems 00:30:40.67\00:30:44.48 to be indicating that you and I are literally 00:30:44.51\00:30:47.41 engineered for love. It's very strange 00:30:47.44\00:30:50.34 to be evolutionary mind, well I want you to notice that 00:30:50.37\00:30:54.16 Dr. Dean Ornish proceeded because of 00:30:54.19\00:30:57.47 this mystery to interview some 26 scientific 00:30:57.50\00:31:03.09 minds the brightest and the best 00:31:03.12\00:31:05.78 in their various fields of study. 00:31:05.81\00:31:08.32 He interviewed each one with one question. 00:31:08.35\00:31:11.09 I just want you to answer one question 00:31:11.12\00:31:13.10 Dr. Ornish said to each of them 00:31:13.13\00:31:14.95 why do we like this, it's strange, it's mysterious, 00:31:14.98\00:31:19.57 evolutionary science contradicts it, I want 00:31:19.60\00:31:22.53 to know you're an expert, you are highly educated, 00:31:22.56\00:31:25.82 why are we like this? Some of the answers 00:31:25.85\00:31:31.88 that emerged are quite fascinating 00:31:31.91\00:31:33.76 what where this goes. On page 175, 00:31:33.79\00:31:37.44 Dr S. Leonard Syme, said in response 00:31:37.47\00:31:41.68 to the question I think that looking at 00:31:41.71\00:31:45.16 at this connection between relationship, 00:31:45.19\00:31:48.46 notice another word introduce here, 00:31:48.49\00:31:50.10 we got love, intimacy and now what word, 00:31:50.13\00:31:52.20 relationship. I think that looking at this connection 00:31:52.45\00:31:56.31 between relationship and survival is the most 00:31:56.34\00:31:59.94 significant thing that can be done in our field 00:31:59.97\00:32:03.71 right now notice the most significant thing that 00:32:03.74\00:32:06.74 can be down in our field right now, 00:32:06.77\00:32:08.75 because why we are in a major what does he say. 00:32:08.78\00:32:12.47 We are in a major crisis, what's the nature 00:32:12.50\00:32:15.89 of the crisis that is facing the scientific community? 00:32:15.92\00:32:19.43 We are in a major crisis we have tones of data 00:32:19.46\00:32:23.41 with no what? With no theory, no way to connect all the 00:32:23.44\00:32:29.21 little bits and pieces that have been accumulated 00:32:29.24\00:32:32.16 we have no overwriting conceptual model, 00:32:32.19\00:32:36.09 he already saying, he is saying 00:32:36.12\00:32:39.52 I don't know why we are like this? 00:32:39.55\00:32:41.66 We just know its true, we know its true, but 00:32:41.69\00:32:44.88 it is really quite a befuddlement 00:32:44.91\00:32:48.75 we don't know, why we are like this. 00:32:48.78\00:32:51.49 We have got tones of data proving that human 00:32:51.52\00:32:53.91 beings are not biological survival machines 00:32:53.94\00:32:55.93 after all as the theory of evolution has dictated 00:32:55.96\00:32:58.72 we should be, but rather in fact we are psychological 00:32:58.75\00:33:02.06 emotional spiritual love machines 00:33:02.09\00:33:04.10 that's what the data is revealing, 00:33:04.13\00:33:07.96 we were made for relationship with on and another 00:33:09.00\00:33:13.58 and ultimately with God in which always 00:33:13.61\00:33:16.68 from my perspective the other is first. 00:33:16.71\00:33:19.59 And always from your perspective, who is first 00:33:20.18\00:33:22.87 the other, and always from the God's perspective 00:33:22.90\00:33:25.90 who is first the other and Calvary proves that 00:33:25.93\00:33:30.22 with crystal clarity that God literally loves 00:33:30.25\00:33:34.96 all others above and before himself. 00:33:34.99\00:33:40.28 Amen. But it's a mystery we have got tones of data, 00:33:40.38\00:33:45.38 we have no theory, we have no model, 00:33:45.41\00:33:48.40 we don't know how to make sense out of this. 00:33:48.43\00:33:50.86 So, where did they have to go? Dr. Ornish says on page 171 00:33:50.89\00:33:54.65 yet mystery remains that is after interviewing 00:33:54.68\00:33:57.88 all of these highly educated scientist mystery remains 00:33:57.91\00:34:01.45 nobody knows the answers to this question 00:34:01.48\00:34:03.36 by the way we are privilege in this room to know 00:34:03.39\00:34:05.66 the answer to this question. 00:34:05.69\00:34:06.79 We're about to discover with greater clarity 00:34:06.82\00:34:09.00 in a just moment, but for the scientist 00:34:09.03\00:34:12.32 mystery remains notice what he says, 00:34:12.35\00:34:14.54 no one can fully explain what is going on 00:34:16.20\00:34:20.25 that is why love and intimacy matter so much, 00:34:20.28\00:34:28.38 so many of these people talk about what's that word. 00:34:28.41\00:34:32.84 Energy. Energy. The ever elusive 00:34:32.87\00:34:36.27 and featureless energy may the force be with you, 00:34:36.30\00:34:41.36 you know this concept don't you 00:34:42.89\00:34:45.52 this idea that ultimate reality 00:34:45.55\00:34:47.75 is an impersonal vacuum of energy, 00:34:47.78\00:34:51.04 there is nothing really there but some kind of ethereal, 00:34:51.07\00:34:55.50 impersonal, non-relational energy, 00:34:55.53\00:35:00.90 it must be energy they say thus making us like this. 00:35:00.93\00:35:04.26 Ah! Energy, energy I think not, 00:35:06.21\00:35:11.91 because energy by definition in an of itself 00:35:11.94\00:35:16.62 is ultimately impersonal, but love and intimacy 00:35:16.65\00:35:21.87 by definition are personal to say that 00:35:21.90\00:35:28.31 this very intimate personal dimension of 00:35:28.34\00:35:31.78 human experience some how came out 00:35:31.81\00:35:35.19 of a very impersonal non-relational matrix 00:35:35.22\00:35:40.42 is a contradiction in terms and so energy is pointed to, 00:35:40.45\00:35:47.51 but now it needs to go a step further in this line of 00:35:47.54\00:35:50.41 reasoning because rethink this through with me. 00:35:50.44\00:35:52.56 If the evolutionary model of reality is true 00:35:52.59\00:35:58.15 what is the pinnacle of the evolutionary process 00:35:58.18\00:36:04.44 or rather, who constitutes the zenith 00:36:04.47\00:36:08.62 of the evolutionary process, who is at the top? 00:36:08.65\00:36:11.00 Is it the ants, the mosquitoes, the lions, 00:36:11.03\00:36:15.88 the tigers, who is at the top of the evolutionary chain. 00:36:15.91\00:36:19.69 Human beings are, so ultimately in the evolutionary 00:36:19.72\00:36:23.75 world view we each of us individually 00:36:23.78\00:36:26.88 and all of us collectively reconstitute the pinnacle 00:36:26.91\00:36:30.06 of the reality, there is nothing 00:36:30.09\00:36:31.91 above beyond us to which we might 00:36:31.94\00:36:35.46 relate, are you with me? There is listen, 00:36:35.49\00:36:39.10 there is no one there, 3.9 billion years 00:36:39.13\00:36:45.18 ago a massive explosion occurred out of that 00:36:45.21\00:36:49.63 explosion eventually a highly sophisticated order 00:36:49.66\00:36:54.13 occurred and eventually the pollywogs 00:36:54.16\00:36:57.33 and slime curled up out of the water and here we are. 00:36:57.36\00:37:02.49 How flattering and then as this universe expands, 00:37:04.93\00:37:10.71 expands, expands, what is the ultimate destiny of 00:37:10.74\00:37:14.85 the universe or just like the bungee cord 00:37:14.88\00:37:17.67 that can't be stretched any further eventually 00:37:17.70\00:37:19.97 as all going to, it's going to implode. 00:37:20.00\00:37:23.18 The explosion is going to eventually implode 00:37:23.21\00:37:28.86 and come back down to the point at the end of a period 00:37:28.89\00:37:34.89 and we will have from then on eternal non-existence. 00:37:35.27\00:37:38.73 It doesn't make you wanna love your grandchildren 00:37:40.35\00:37:43.54 or be faithful to your marriage at the house, 00:37:43.57\00:37:46.40 it certainly doesn't make you want to look out 00:37:46.43\00:37:49.37 for the other guy and it certainly doesn't instill 00:37:49.40\00:37:51.72 integrity, it puts before us the most egregious 00:37:51.75\00:37:58.91 potential for self centeredness that will view 00:37:58.94\00:38:02.73 that is imaginable. If I am all there is ultimately 00:38:02.76\00:38:09.56 and you are all there is ultimately, 00:38:09.59\00:38:13.00 well then eat, drink and be marry for tomorrow we die. 00:38:14.01\00:38:17.66 Well, I want you to notice something here 00:38:18.32\00:38:22.23 it goes in one direction unavoidably 00:38:22.26\00:38:25.56 because as Ornish continues his interviews 00:38:25.59\00:38:29.23 one of the experts Jon Kabat-Zinn, 00:38:29.26\00:38:33.11 another researcher interviewed by Dr. Ornish 00:38:33.14\00:38:36.02 affirmed that the findings of science 00:38:36.05\00:38:38.20 are definitely indicating that human nature 00:38:38.23\00:38:41.57 is innately designed for intimacy. 00:38:41.60\00:38:45.56 So, Dr. Ornish puts the question 00:38:45.59\00:38:47.73 to Dr. Zinn, what's the question again. 00:38:47.76\00:38:50.20 Intimacy with what? So logical question, these guys 00:38:50.23\00:38:54.89 you got to give to him least logical. 00:38:54.92\00:38:57.07 They are trying to connect the doubt, 00:38:57.10\00:39:00.37 intimacy with what? Because in the evolutionary 00:39:00.40\00:39:03.55 world view what is there? What's that what? 00:39:03.58\00:39:05.63 Nothing there is nothing there, 00:39:05.66\00:39:08.48 so intimacy with what Dr. Zinn notice his answer, 00:39:08.51\00:39:12.77 ultimately with the sense of self wow! 00:39:12.80\00:39:20.72 With who you are? then he says the eye itself 00:39:20.75\00:39:27.83 becomes the object of awareness. 00:39:27.86\00:39:30.89 Intimacy with what Dr. Zinn, what with me, 00:39:30.92\00:39:35.53 you having intimacy with you is that what. 00:39:35.56\00:39:39.19 Yes, that's what I'm saying, ultimately this could only 00:39:39.22\00:39:42.00 mean that I have my own ultimate person 00:39:42.03\00:39:49.14 to relate to because there couldn't possibly 00:39:49.17\00:39:52.36 be anybody above or beyond me. 00:39:52.39\00:39:55.38 Intimacy with myself, but Dr. Zinn fails 00:39:55.41\00:40:00.43 to recognize that by definition the word 00:40:00.46\00:40:03.24 intimacy implies the existence of some other. 00:40:03.27\00:40:07.32 It is self contradictory to speak in terms 00:40:07.35\00:40:11.88 of having a relationship with myself. 00:40:11.91\00:40:15.01 But that's the only direction they can see 00:40:15.04\00:40:20.58 to go, there is a language here remind you of 00:40:20.61\00:40:23.52 anything in scripture ultimately then the "I" 00:40:23.55\00:40:27.45 me, myself and I becomes the pinnacle of my 00:40:30.42\00:40:33.88 relational intimacy, I just need to get close to myself. 00:40:33.91\00:40:36.95 Think of Isaiah 14 How are that fallen 00:40:41.25\00:40:45.68 from heaven, O Lucifer son of the dawn for you 00:40:45.71\00:40:48.69 have set in your heart I, I, I, I, how many times 00:40:48.72\00:40:55.29 I, How many? Five, I, I will ascend to the very 00:40:55.32\00:41:02.15 pinnacle of reality, I will occupy my own 00:41:02.18\00:41:06.86 total consciousness and everybody else 00:41:06.89\00:41:10.30 including God had better just get out of the way. 00:41:10.33\00:41:14.78 Well Dr. Ornish himself doesn't know 00:41:14.81\00:41:19.08 what to do with this data, so notice his conclusion 00:41:19.11\00:41:21.99 on page 146 this will absolutely blow your mind 00:41:22.77\00:41:25.61 and yet logically it's the only direction 00:41:25.64\00:41:28.49 we can go if we maintain the evolutionary world view. 00:41:28.52\00:41:32.46 Notice page 145, 146, God is not something 00:41:32.49\00:41:38.87 so he introduces God, but what is God is? 00:41:38.90\00:41:41.76 God is not something we attain from out there 00:41:41.79\00:41:46.14 some where we realize that God is in us, us, us, 00:41:46.17\00:41:55.09 we understood in this context the realization 00:41:55.12\00:42:00.26 of God of our capital itself by any other name is perhaps 00:42:00.29\00:42:08.49 the ultimate healing experience. 00:42:08.52\00:42:10.28 So, the book is inevitably has to go in the direction 00:42:10.31\00:42:15.71 you rule out the existence of a ultra-personal self 00:42:15.74\00:42:22.44 giving God of love. If there is no God 00:42:22.47\00:42:26.30 then ultimately Dr. Ornish says we need to realize 00:42:26.33\00:42:31.49 that our dependence on intimacy must involve 00:42:31.52\00:42:36.40 a hyper self consciousness and a hyper self-concern 00:42:36.43\00:42:41.98 it's all about me. 00:42:42.01\00:42:45.35 Wow! And I am God and your God 00:42:45.38\00:42:50.44 in collectively we are all God 00:42:50.47\00:42:52.51 it is the conclusion, but I want you to notice 00:42:52.54\00:42:55.77 carefully the apostle Paul commentary far before 00:42:55.80\00:43:02.63 any of this was written because the human mind 00:43:02.66\00:43:05.33 has been thinking along these lines for a longtime. 00:43:05.36\00:43:08.38 Notice the apostle Paul's commentary and observation 00:43:08.41\00:43:11.42 on this frame work of thinking. 00:43:11.45\00:43:13.81 Roman's Chapter 1, 19 and 20 note the language 00:43:13.84\00:43:17.89 carefully what may be known of God 00:43:17.92\00:43:21.98 is manifest, where everybody? 00:43:22.01\00:43:25.79 In them. In them. What is Paul referring in them? 00:43:25.82\00:43:29.57 What may be known of God is manifest in them? 00:43:29.60\00:43:34.62 That is in human nature itself, 00:43:34.65\00:43:37.42 there is testimony to God's existence, 00:43:37.45\00:43:40.01 well later on in chapter 2 he begins to fill this out 00:43:41.16\00:43:45.99 and says well for example chapter 2 he says gentiles 00:43:46.02\00:43:49.92 who do not have the law as a written code that is. 00:43:49.95\00:43:52.51 Ten Commandments on tables of stone he says in chapter 2 00:43:52.54\00:43:55.50 of Romans Gentiles who do not have the laws or written code 00:43:55.53\00:43:58.72 yet still have the law inscribed on their hearts, 00:43:58.75\00:44:03.66 he says when they do wrong their conscious accuses them 00:44:04.87\00:44:08.45 and when they do what is right, 00:44:08.48\00:44:09.81 their conscious affirms them. Whether 00:44:09.84\00:44:11.08 they've ever encountered the Ten Commandments on 00:44:12.49\00:44:15.06 tables of stone or not, can you imagine? 00:44:15.09\00:44:17.90 So, Paul goes on and says that because 00:44:17.93\00:44:21.03 what may be known of God is evident to manifest 00:44:21.06\00:44:24.79 in human nature for God has shown it to them 00:44:24.82\00:44:28.73 for since the creation of the world his that is God's 00:44:28.76\00:44:34.32 invisible what attributes are seem to what degree 00:44:34.35\00:44:40.21 clearly seen being understood by the things 00:44:40.24\00:44:44.24 that he has made even his eternal power and God had. 00:44:44.27\00:44:53.11 Wow! That's mouthful what has Paul told us here 00:44:53.14\00:44:57.11 he says well first of all I want to understand 00:44:57.14\00:45:00.25 that a testimony regarding the existence of God 00:45:00.28\00:45:04.84 is present in human nature itself, in other words 00:45:04.87\00:45:09.11 God actually created and designed us in 00:45:09.14\00:45:12.86 such a way that we know the difference between right 00:45:12.89\00:45:16.36 and wrong and we hunger for the good 00:45:16.39\00:45:19.07 we are recoiling continually at the evil 00:45:19.10\00:45:21.97 when we encountered it, we can't even tolerate evil 00:45:22.00\00:45:24.85 in ourselves without our conscious pouncing on us 00:45:24.88\00:45:27.74 with guilt. If there is no God 00:45:27.77\00:45:31.60 and we live in a merely material 00:45:31.63\00:45:34.78 universe than their should be no such thing as guilt, 00:45:34.81\00:45:38.54 there should be no such thing as affirmation of conscious. 00:45:38.57\00:45:42.07 Paul says the testimony of God's existence 00:45:42.29\00:45:45.68 is present in human nature, but it goes further than this. 00:45:45.71\00:45:49.24 Because there is another testimony in your heart 00:45:51.08\00:45:53.79 and mind, the holly spirit is continually 00:45:53.82\00:45:57.28 whispering into our consciousness 00:45:57.31\00:46:00.53 deep longings for the ultimate relationship 00:46:01.29\00:46:06.97 with the ultimate person and that is God. 00:46:07.00\00:46:10.36 We were tailor made in the deep intricacies 00:46:10.39\00:46:16.47 of the way our psychics are geared to operate, 00:46:16.50\00:46:20.35 we were engineered to have a relationship with God, 00:46:20.38\00:46:25.42 on an emotional level we hunger 00:46:26.71\00:46:30.93 for the kind of acceptance 00:46:31.69\00:46:33.50 and affirmation and trust worthiness and faithfulness 00:46:33.58\00:46:37.28 that only God can render to us. 00:46:37.91\00:46:40.13 We try to fill that vacuum with many different kinds 00:46:41.70\00:46:46.61 of things including one relationship 00:46:46.64\00:46:49.58 after another and one time after another 00:46:49.61\00:46:52.49 human beings disappoint us. 00:46:52.52\00:46:54.67 One time after another relationships are broken 00:46:56.27\00:47:00.60 and one time after another as we come up empty handed 00:47:00.63\00:47:05.76 from our broken relationships we find unabated, 00:47:05.79\00:47:10.54 a still more persistent longing for a faithfulness 00:47:10.57\00:47:17.30 and a loyalty and an acceptance, 00:47:17.33\00:47:20.82 and the love that finds it's only perfect match 00:47:20.85\00:47:26.12 in the heart of God. 00:47:26.15\00:47:28.35 And so Paul says in so many words 00:47:30.57\00:47:34.11 we know God exist because of the way 00:47:34.14\00:47:38.04 we are made, we know God is there because 00:47:39.58\00:47:41.62 we long for him, even when we 00:47:41.96\00:47:44.58 don't know his name. Down 00:47:44.61\00:47:47.58 through history there have been countless individuals 00:47:47.61\00:47:49.98 who never had a Bible, the Scriptures 00:47:50.01\00:47:54.38 says we have them or rather new development 00:47:54.41\00:47:57.02 in human history Enik was translated without a Bible. 00:47:57.05\00:48:00.20 So was the Elijah, there are been individuals 00:48:00.85\00:48:06.02 outside of the parameters of the God's chosen people down 00:48:06.05\00:48:09.10 through history, the Bible actually prophesied 00:48:09.13\00:48:12.66 that the Messiah who would come to this world 00:48:12.69\00:48:14.77 would also be the messiah and the savior 00:48:14.80\00:48:17.83 of the people of China. 00:48:17.86\00:48:19.41 China is named in scripture as one of the people's 00:48:19.44\00:48:24.21 on the outline world around Israel, 00:48:24.24\00:48:27.50 China is named as one of the people groups in this world. 00:48:27.53\00:48:31.08 That God had his eye upon and his affections set up on 00:48:31.11\00:48:36.33 and when the savior would come Isaiah said 00:48:36.36\00:48:38.78 he would come, he would come, not only for Israel 00:48:38.81\00:48:41.95 but for the people of Cin, 00:48:41.98\00:48:43.85 which is the ancient word for China. 00:48:43.88\00:48:46.54 American Indians who have never known 00:48:48.11\00:48:51.05 the name the Jesus in early, the early history of 00:48:51.08\00:48:56.18 the development of this nation never heard 00:48:56.21\00:48:58.80 the name of the Jesus, never read the Bible 00:48:58.83\00:49:01.49 and yet they experience the movings of the Holy Spirit 00:49:01.52\00:49:05.10 in their conscious and those who yield to those movings 00:49:05.13\00:49:10.20 find rest and peace to their souls 00:49:10.23\00:49:12.50 in the path of righteousness and truth 00:49:13.58\00:49:15.87 and loyalty and trust worthiness. 00:49:15.90\00:49:17.83 God has put the testimony of his existence 00:49:20.10\00:49:23.96 in our very hearts. 00:49:23.99\00:49:25.05 Page 2 you're outlined however helps us to understand 00:49:26.47\00:49:30.75 in more graphic and concrete terms 00:49:30.78\00:49:36.10 precisely why human nature is the way it is. 00:49:36.13\00:49:41.66 In rapid-fire succession notes these mere sentences, 00:49:41.69\00:49:47.93 a couple of them mere phrases from scripture 00:49:47.96\00:49:52.41 and note the relationship of the ideas 00:49:52.44\00:49:55.04 to build this picture in our minds. 00:49:55.07\00:49:56.84 Genesis 127 makes the awesome declaration, 00:49:56.87\00:50:02.57 God created man that is mankind 00:50:03.72\00:50:07.23 male and female, God created mankind 00:50:07.26\00:50:10.54 in his own what. Image. In his own image. 00:50:10.57\00:50:13.77 That is to say there is something 00:50:13.80\00:50:17.85 about God, listen there is something about God 00:50:17.88\00:50:23.35 that is replicated in human beings. 00:50:23.38\00:50:27.68 Are you with me? Yeah. 00:50:27.71\00:50:29.43 The image of God has taken on form external to 00:50:29.46\00:50:35.25 himself in the human nature and human experience. 00:50:35.28\00:50:42.47 God created man in his image, what is that image? 00:50:42.50\00:50:45.01 I mean you could pick one word in scripture 00:50:45.04\00:50:46.72 to define the core essence of the divine 00:50:46.75\00:50:50.30 identity what would that word would be? 00:50:50.33\00:50:52.58 First John 14:16, God is love my friends; 00:50:52.61\00:51:00.06 I wanted you notice something about this, 00:51:00.09\00:51:01.93 about this statement. This statement is listen carefully 00:51:01.96\00:51:07.39 the only total identity statement about God in 00:51:07.42\00:51:11.23 scripture, the only statement in scripture 00:51:11.26\00:51:14.81 that defines in totality who and what manner of person 00:51:14.84\00:51:19.91 is God is, you will find other scriptures 00:51:19.94\00:51:22.87 that say God is holy, but never God is holiness. 00:51:22.90\00:51:26.42 You will find scriptures that say God is just, 00:51:27.34\00:51:30.70 but not God is justice, God is merciful, but 00:51:30.73\00:51:35.55 never where you find a scripture that says God 00:51:35.58\00:51:37.11 is mercy. The noun, all the adjectives that pertain 00:51:37.14\00:51:43.29 to God, all the adjectives and verbs that pertain 00:51:43.32\00:51:47.68 to God are extensions of the one noun 00:51:47.71\00:51:50.75 that defines the totality of God's essential being. 00:51:55.34\00:51:56.31 God is love and therefore everything else 00:51:56.32\00:52:00.76 that is true of God is true of God because God is love. 00:52:00.79\00:52:03.87 God is just because God is love, 00:52:04.06\00:52:06.69 Justice is in fact a dimension of love. 00:52:06.72\00:52:10.24 God is merciful because God is what? 00:52:11.66\00:52:14.49 Love, mercy is a dimension of love. 00:52:14.52\00:52:18.36 God is all that he is because God is love, 00:52:18.39\00:52:22.33 God created man in his image the image of God is love 00:52:23.16\00:52:28.80 that is other centered self giving passion, 00:52:28.83\00:52:33.04 we were made in that image through the fall 00:52:34.97\00:52:38.16 that image was lost it was forfeited 00:52:38.19\00:52:41.42 and right now you and I are at the centre of an ache 00:52:42.13\00:52:48.83 in the heart of God. That is difficult 00:52:48.86\00:52:50.61 for us to wrap our imaginations around. 00:52:51.80\00:52:55.35 God literally has poured out all the resources 00:52:55.38\00:53:00.02 of his heart and all the resources of heaven 00:53:00.05\00:53:04.15 to the inns degree of personal self sacrifice, 00:53:04.18\00:53:06.47 to save you and me at any cost to himself. 00:53:06.50\00:53:11.14 God is love he made us in his image 00:53:12.18\00:53:14.59 we forfeited that image and now I want you to notice 00:53:14.62\00:53:17.64 the next line here from the Proverbs 19 verse 22 00:53:17.67\00:53:21.01 as it is rendered in the new international version, 00:53:21.04\00:53:24.45 the best translation that I could find 00:53:24.48\00:53:27.82 of this text I want you to notice something. 00:53:27.85\00:53:30.98 We were made in God's image; 00:53:31.01\00:53:33.46 we were made as replicas of the other centered self 00:53:33.49\00:53:36.85 divine phenomenon of God's trinitary and love. 00:53:36.88\00:53:40.49 We were made that way, we forfeited that love 00:53:40.52\00:53:45.11 and now this statement of scripture 00:53:45.14\00:53:47.12 makes a diagnoses say what? 00:53:47.15\00:53:49.50 Diagnoses. A diagnoses of the human condition. 00:53:49.53\00:53:52.76 You want to know what's really going on 00:53:52.79\00:53:54.45 at the deepest level of your heart and soul. 00:53:55.59\00:53:57.65 You want to know what's going on in the heart and soul 00:53:57.68\00:54:00.98 at the bed rock level of the lady, 00:54:01.01\00:54:02.74 you bought your salsa from at the grocery store. 00:54:02.77\00:54:05.68 You want to know what's going on in the heart and mind 00:54:05.71\00:54:08.98 of the person whose eyes barely met yours 00:54:09.01\00:54:12.18 as you walked on the side walk of your city. 00:54:12.21\00:54:14.12 You want to know what's going on 00:54:14.15\00:54:16.99 in the in most soul of every child crying 00:54:17.02\00:54:20.47 out for food in India. 00:54:20.50\00:54:22.85 What a man scripture says what a man, what a human being 00:54:25.07\00:54:28.93 desires is unfailing love, that's what we want 00:54:28.96\00:54:35.92 more than anything else. 00:54:35.95\00:54:37.99 That's what we long for we want a certain quality 00:54:38.02\00:54:41.72 of love that is unfailing, a trust worthy faithful love, 00:54:41.75\00:54:47.85 we long for its restoration in all our relationships 00:54:47.88\00:54:52.71 and in our ultimate relationship with God. 00:54:52.74\00:54:55.65 I got 2:7 confers upon the coming savior 00:54:55.68\00:55:02.59 my absolute favorite name for Jesus 00:55:02.62\00:55:06.81 in the whole Bible well the last couple of months 00:55:06.84\00:55:10.40 it's been my favorite name for Jesus 00:55:10.43\00:55:12.02 in the whole Bible, I don't what's coming down 00:55:12.05\00:55:13.83 the pike, but Jesus is given a title here, 00:55:13.86\00:55:18.43 friends I want to just notice his name 00:55:18.46\00:55:21.22 sometimes he is called the Rose of Sharon, 00:55:21.25\00:55:23.61 calling our attention to the fact that Jesus is beautiful. 00:55:23.64\00:55:27.32 Sometimes he is called the bread of life 00:55:27.35\00:55:29.66 because he is accessed into our soul, 00:55:29.69\00:55:31.53 One scripture in John 10 says I am the door, 00:55:31.56\00:55:34.65 he is the door, he is the bread, he is the water, 00:55:34.68\00:55:37.10 he is the rose, he is the lilly of the valley, 00:55:37.13\00:55:39.29 he is known by many names and metaphors. 00:55:39.32\00:55:42.67 This one is incredible Jesus is called by the Prophet 00:55:42.70\00:55:47.85 the desire of all nations that is to say 00:55:47.88\00:55:53.39 Jesus Christ is the quintessential desire of every 00:55:53.42\00:55:58.21 human heart, he is the universal craving my friends. 00:55:58.24\00:56:02.36 Even when we don't know his name, 00:56:03.31\00:56:05.36 we long for him in character and attribute. 00:56:05.39\00:56:09.51 In the very longing for love that pulsates 00:56:09.54\00:56:14.53 in our heart we long for Jesus, 00:56:14.56\00:56:16.92 whether we know his name or not 00:56:16.95\00:56:21.07 and when we come into vital connection with 00:56:21.10\00:56:24.72 the Desire. Capital D, when we come in the contact 00:56:24.75\00:56:29.47 with the Lord Jesus Christ. We know that we are 00:56:29.50\00:56:35.19 finally, where we were meant to be all along, 00:56:35.22\00:56:38.21 it's as if we are standing everyone of us 00:56:38.24\00:56:43.20 in the salsa aisle, holding somebody's 00:56:43.23\00:56:46.99 hand longing for love. Wishing we could have it 00:56:47.02\00:56:52.15 and rushing up and down the aisles 00:56:52.18\00:56:54.43 of whatever this world has to offer 00:56:54.46\00:56:56.19 because we are frightened by all the impostors around us. 00:56:56.22\00:57:02.91 And my friends when we meet Jesus 00:57:02.94\00:57:06.75 we know that we are at home. 00:57:06.78\00:57:08.77 We were made for him no one can love you, 00:57:08.80\00:57:13.61 like Jesus loves you. 00:57:13.91\00:57:15.51