[Hymn]
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[Hymn]
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Amen.
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This next song we
have to stand for,
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we have this hope so
please join us as we sing,
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"We Have This Hope That
Burns Within Our Hearts."
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We have this hope that
burns within our hearts
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Hope in the coming of the Lord
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We have this faith
that Christ alone imparts
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Faith in the promise of His Word
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We believe the time is here,
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When the nations far and near
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Shall awake, and shout and sing
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Hallelujah! Christ is King!
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We have this hope that
burns within our hearts
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Hope in the coming of the Lord
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Amen.
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Let's bow our heads, shall we?
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Heavenly
Father, you are so good.
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We love You and You love us.
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I thank you so much for
giving us this seventh rest,
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thank You Lord for giving us
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Your mercy and Your goodness.
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We are odd and
inspired and amazed
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at what we've heard and seen,
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and that you
can actually use us.
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Thank You for what
You're doing in this world.
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Heavenly Father,
we have seen evidence
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of Your work
these last few days.
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We've also seen that
there is much left to do.
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Please come and fill our hearts
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and make us mighty for You,
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and tonight,
speak to us once again,
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in Jesus name. Amen.
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Good evening, have
you being blessed? Yes.
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Wonderful, over
the last past few days
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I've sat into
the chairs like you
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and I've listened
to the youth for Jesus,
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but on this fantastic show.
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Well, I want to tell you tonight
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that the senior
youth for Jesus group,
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wanted to make sure that
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they were not
going to out shined us.
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So we decide to do
something for Jesus,
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we went as missionaries
overseas and I'll tell you,
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I was the
newcomer with this group,
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they had
traveled before together.
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You can imagine what
kind of worse stories
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I had to put up with.
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But it was fun and I have
invited them to tell you folks
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about their
experience in this mission trip
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that we went on in January.
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Denzil, where did we go?
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We went to the country of Cuba,
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it all started when Dawn
and I went to Portugal to help
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with starting of
the ASI in Portugal.
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And while we were there,
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we had the
privilege of meeting Ruben
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and while we were
talking with Ruben,
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we were talking
about our experiences
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and Ruben said to
me, he says, you know,
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our family would like to do
more to tell others about Jesus.
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Do you know a country
that we can participate in?
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And I said I don't know one,
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but let me pray
and think about it.
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Well, less than
20 minutes later,
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I'm riding in a
rural area of Cuba,
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excuse me in Portugal
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and I get a phone
call from Pastor Finley.
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And he tells me
about the exciting things
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that are happening in Cuba
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and how that there is
such great opportunities
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and that it's a
great time to get,
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to go to Cuba and tell
about our soon coming Savior.
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Wonderful. Ray, can you tell
us the site that we visited?
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Well, we started in Havana.
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We worked our
way down to Santiago
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and then we started,
we split into two groups
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and we started North,
our groups consisted of
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Elder Ramon Chow, the
ASI Secretary Treasure,
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Denzil McNeilus, Ruben,
and Nancy Dias from Portugal,
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Dwight Hilderbrandt,
Former ASI Secretary Treasurer.
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My buddy Harold
Lance and myself,
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and we were
accompanied by Elder Alfonso,
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who is the Cuban Union
Personal Ministries Leader.
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And he is one tremendous guy.
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Dwight is going
to give us locations.
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Well, we flew into
Havana, and Ray and Harold
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and I went to the seminary
which is operated in Cuba.
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And we held our
first one there while Ramon
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and Denzil and Ruben
went out to Penedo Rio
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and then we left Havana and
went to the Santiago de Cuba.
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And Harold and Ray and
I, had our seminars there.
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This brethren went to
Bayamo then we left that area
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and came back through Camaguey.
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And also Santa Clara and
during this time of eight days
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we had six
seminars and we trained over
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1,700 lay people to
do evangelism. Amen.
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The Lord was so good to us
and we just praise His name
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for what He has done.
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Harold, tell us of your
impression as you watched
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the faces of these
people being trained.
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The local church had selected
each one of the delegates
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who would come and be trained.
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In one of the places
there were 241 people selected,
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241 people
showed up, the same ones
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that were supposed
to plus a hundred more.
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Their interest and dedication
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and willingness to
be used was amazing.
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Wonderful, I need to
make a, clarify something,
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Ruben who's going to
speak next wanted to make sure
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that I did not include him
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in the group of
senior youth for Jesus.
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He is the youngest
one in the platform.
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So Ruben, I
redeem myself, right?
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Yes, you did.
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Ruben has been keeping track
of what has happened in Cuba
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since we were there
and he is going to share
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with us some statistics.
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Well, let me tell
you that the first
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we blessed is
the one that does it.
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And for me it was the
first experience of this kind
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and the blessing was tremendous.
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But now afterwards
there are more blessings
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and it's called the
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"return investment of
your evangelism action."
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And that return has been
tremendous up to now in Cuba.
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We have two main
projects, one is the,
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a thousand people are
equipped with the DVD,
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New Beginnings,
and of those 1,000,
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there's 85 full
time Bible workers,
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they have the
objective of opening up
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one hundred new city or
towns, they have no SDA presence
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and to open up a church. Amen.
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And this is a project
of three to five years.
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It will take time, but
the results are coming.
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And the results are
this, first of all, right now,
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there are 8,500 people
studying the Bible. Amen.
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And that is
really a good rejoice
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that we received
and it's a blessing.
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Second is that
those eighty five people
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they are
working new territories.
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They have already
opened up six new churches,
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six new churches with the
program of the New Beginnings.
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So we are so happy
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that the results are
something that God delivers us
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and it continues to
give us the blessing.
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Now the best
part is they already
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have been
baptized 750 people. Amen.
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So we are really thrilled
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of what God has
given us up to now.
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Amen, amen.
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Denzil just remind
me that the seminary
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in Havana was built by whom?
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Maranatha Volunteers.
Maranatha Volunteers.
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So thanks to
Maranatha. Thank you.
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One of the joy of coming to ASI,
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is that you meet new friends
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and renew your
acquaintances with old friends.
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Tonight I like to
introduce to you a friend,
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new friend of
mine, I met Shawn Wray
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on Wednesday for the first time.
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And Shawn has a
ministry in Atlanta
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and tell us what do you do?
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What kind of ministry
do you have in Atlanta?
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Well, our ministry is called
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Think on These Things
Ministries International,
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we're in Atlanta, Georgia
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and we are
humanitarian organization,
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we have a feeding
program, a feeding food pantry,
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we have also a true store
that we are thankful to ASI,
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we could be
launching later on this year.
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Amen, now a few
years ago I understand
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that a friend of
Shawn keep saying,
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Shawn, you need to
come to ASI and Shawn says,
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another organization, I
just don't have time for this,
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but he came two
years ago, Right?
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Yes, correct.
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Two years ago and what
happened to your life since?
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It has never
been the same since,
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Steve Dickman,
Carol, the Secretary
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and Treasurer of
the Southern Union,
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I can't thank them enough.
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I'm inspired by
just the camaraderie,
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the fellowship, the
mentoring and network.
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And this is the encouragement
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that I received from
ASI for the past two years.
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How has it
impacted your ministry?
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It is impacted my
ministry in several ways,
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not only it has
created encouragement for me,
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but it also
creates a mentoringship,
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an encouragement to
help me to move forward,
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help me to keep going.
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How to do things better,
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and how to listen
to more to the Lord
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and what He has in store for me.
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Well, Shwan told me
that he'll never miss
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another ASI meeting
and you know he is already
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the Head Usher of
ASI, he's second year
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and he did a
fantastic job for us today.
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Thank you, Shwan. Thank you.
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God bless your
ministry. Thank you so much.
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Thank you, well, we're
excited to be a part of ASI
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and if these
senior youth can do it,
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you can do it too, right?
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A gentleman by
name of Samuel Clemens,
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better known as
Mark Twain once said,
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"Twenty years from now
you will be more disappointed
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by the things
that you did not do
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than by the things you did do.
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Then he went on to say,
So, throw off the bowlines.
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Sail away from the safe harbor.
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Catch the trade
winds in your sail.
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Dream Explore and Discover."
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And I like to urge
each one of you tonight
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to leave the safe
harbor of your comfort zone
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if you please, go
do something for Jesus.
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Dream of the lives that you
can touch by sharing your faith,
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explore the many,
many opportunities
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that come your way each day
to influence people for good.
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And then discover the
joy of witnessing someone
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that you share your
faith with being convicted
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and converted
by the Holy Spirit.
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You'll never be the same,
your spiritual life will be
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strengthen and
your hopes will swore.
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If we can do it, the senior
group of the ASI, you can do it.
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Pray that the Lord will
give you at least one soul
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between now and the
next convention, won't you?
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God bless you.
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Now at this point, you
are all aware your part
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probably of some discussion
that has been going on
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in the area of
creation and of evolution,
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a lot of
discussion, a lot of dialogue,
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and in some cases debates.
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ASI leadership
feels very strongly
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that the creation is
fundamental to our beliefs.
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So we decided tonight,
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we decided to invite
a specialist an expert
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in that field to
share with us some thoughts
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about this ongoing discussion
that we have in our church.
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Dr. Art Chadwick is a
full time research professor
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of biology and geology
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at Southwestern
Adventist University.
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Dr. Art Chadwick is under
age in this field of geology,
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he is highly respected among
his pierce and even though,
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he is a firm
believer in creation, he's,
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the organization GSA which
stands for geological society
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and what's A, I
forgot what the A stands for,
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association I suppose.
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Every year they
invite him to present
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of their annual meetings,
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that tells you
something of the quality
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of research that he is doing.
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And tonight, he is
going to share with us
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some of his convictions
on this topic of creation.
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The title of his topic
is the importance of this
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of the creator God to
our whole system of belief.
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So after the choir sings for us,
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we will hear the
voice of Dr. Art Chadwick.
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Nearer, still
nearer, close to Thy heart
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Draw me, my Savior,
so precious Thou art
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Fold me, oh, fold
me close to Thy breast
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Shelter me safe in
that "Haven of Rest,"
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Shelter me safe in
that "Haven of Rest."
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Nearer, still
nearer, nothing I bring
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Naught as an
offering to Jesus, my King
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Only my sinful,
now contrite heart
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Grant me the
cleansing Thy blood doth impart
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Grant me the
cleansing Thy blood doth impart
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Nearer, still
nearer, while life shall last
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Till safe in
glory my anchor is cast
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Through endless ages, ever to be
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Nearer, my Savior,
still nearer to Thee
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Nearer, my
Savior, Nearer, my Savior,
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Nearer, my Savior,
still nearer to Thee.
00:22:54.33\00:23:09.45
Nearer, Nearer my Savior. Amen.
00:23:24.48\00:23:49.48
I believe in God,
the Father Almighty,
00:24:07.87\00:24:12.56
maker of heaven and earth
00:24:12.57\00:24:15.22
and of all things
visible and invisible.
00:24:15.23\00:24:19.97
Millions of Christians
repeat these words every Sunday.
00:24:19.98\00:24:24.65
As a young Episcopalian,
I too said these words
00:24:24.66\00:24:28.56
and believed
them, but there was only
00:24:28.57\00:24:31.91
after I'd became an Adventist
that I really understand
00:24:31.92\00:24:35.24
the connection
between worship and creation.
00:24:35.25\00:24:39.21
Today as both a scientist
00:24:39.22\00:24:41.04
and a Seventh-day
Adventist Christian,
00:24:41.05\00:24:43.59
I would like to
share my insights
00:24:43.60\00:24:46.55
on the importance of recognizing
00:24:46.56\00:24:49.53
that God is indeed the
maker of heaven and earth.
00:24:49.54\00:24:54.50
Let me share from
my own experience,
00:24:54.51\00:24:57.70
my first attendant
in Adventist School
00:24:57.71\00:25:00.41
as a junior in college.
00:25:00.42\00:25:03.38
I was a recent convert,
won to truth by the Holy Spirit
00:25:03.39\00:25:08.42
through a fellow student at a
State University in California.
00:25:08.43\00:25:14.26
The consistency of the
teachings of the church
00:25:14.27\00:25:17.73
with the Bible
gave powerful testimony
00:25:17.74\00:25:21.70
that this is what I belonged.
00:25:21.71\00:25:24.63
Since I was a science major
00:25:24.64\00:25:26.20
it was
particularly evident to me,
00:25:26.21\00:25:29.15
that creation was
an inextricable part
00:25:29.16\00:25:31.93
of the great controversy.
00:25:31.94\00:25:35.43
Moving to an Adventist
college was a major step.
00:25:35.44\00:25:39.85
As a premedical
student, I took a class called
00:25:39.86\00:25:43.00
philosophy of
science from Dr. Lloyd Downs.
00:25:43.01\00:25:46.81
Some of you may know who he is.
00:25:46.82\00:25:50.77
Noticing me keen
interest in philosophy,
00:25:50.78\00:25:53.51
especially regarding
creation and evolution.
00:25:53.52\00:25:56.68
Dr. Downs encouraged
me to change my plans,
00:25:56.69\00:26:00.98
to become a, my
plans to become a physician
00:26:00.99\00:26:03.93
and perceive a career as a
science teacher and researcher.
00:26:03.94\00:26:08.69
It was a
traumatic decision for me,
00:26:08.70\00:26:10.98
I can only share
with you the grief,
00:26:10.99\00:26:15.36
the angst that went through
my soul as I made this change.
00:26:15.37\00:26:18.29
I'd already been
accepted into medical school,
00:26:18.30\00:26:20.96
that seemed like a
straight forward course.
00:26:20.97\00:26:23.75
But after hours
of agonizing prayer,
00:26:23.76\00:26:27.37
I made the decision that I
would follow where God led,
00:26:27.38\00:26:31.37
where this godly
professor encouraged me to go.
00:26:31.38\00:26:35.69
This professor who
could talk openly about
00:26:35.70\00:26:37.89
his faith in the classroom.
00:26:37.90\00:26:40.90
And I have never looked
back from that decision.
00:26:40.91\00:26:44.86
As a teacher at Southwestern
Adventist University
00:26:44.87\00:26:48.19
in Keene, Texas, I
have tried to do the same
00:26:48.20\00:26:51.34
for my students as
Dr. Downs did for me.
00:26:51.35\00:26:55.66
I showed them that science
and faith can be integrated,
00:26:55.67\00:27:02.26
that science
should not be isolated
00:27:02.27\00:27:04.24
from the central
affirmation of our faith,
00:27:04.25\00:27:06.96
does that come on to you?
00:27:06.97\00:27:08.60
Amen.
00:27:08.61\00:27:11.64
With colleagues at Southwestern
Adventist University
00:27:11.65\00:27:14.63
and Southern
Adventist University,
00:27:14.64\00:27:17.07
I have been working on
a special research project
00:27:17.08\00:27:19.48
for the last 12 years.
00:27:19.49\00:27:22.10
The goal is to explain what
happened to 25,000 dinosaurs
00:27:22.11\00:27:29.37
each 30-40 feet
long, whose bones ended up
00:27:29.38\00:27:33.71
on what is now a cattle
ranch in Eastern Wyoming.
00:27:33.72\00:27:38.81
Each summer,
during the month of June,
00:27:38.82\00:27:41.34
we traveled to Wyoming,
00:27:41.35\00:27:43.50
where we excavated
thousands or more bones.
00:27:43.51\00:27:47.03
We returned them to
00:27:47.04\00:27:48.01
Southwestern
Adventist University
00:27:48.02\00:27:50.05
where we processed them
and clean them and label them,
00:27:50.06\00:27:53.33
and colloid them, curate
them into our collection.
00:27:53.34\00:27:57.73
And I will be say
more about that directly.
00:27:57.74\00:28:01.17
In 2002, I
received word from a teacher
00:28:01.18\00:28:03.95
at Trinity Christian Academy,
00:28:03.96\00:28:06.53
an exclusive
Christian school in Dallas,
00:28:06.54\00:28:09.63
asking about the
possibilities of joining us
00:28:09.64\00:28:12.09
on our dinosaur
research project for a few days.
00:28:12.10\00:28:18.16
We assured them
that we would be happy
00:28:18.17\00:28:20.06
to have them and
discuss the logistics.
00:28:20.07\00:28:23.55
The leader told me, he
would want to come first
00:28:23.56\00:28:26.97
and check things out.
00:28:26.98\00:28:30.14
After all, these were
Seventh-day Adventists
00:28:30.15\00:28:33.85
and they were
strange people. Amen.
00:28:33.86\00:28:38.22
They came, they
checked this out very carefully
00:28:38.23\00:28:42.60
and they were stunned to
find that we were friendly,
00:28:42.61\00:28:46.09
spiritually minded Christians
00:28:46.10\00:28:48.62
and we're accommodating
rather than indoctrinating.
00:28:48.63\00:28:52.04
Amen.
00:28:52.05\00:28:53.65
And they've been
coming ever since.
00:28:53.66\00:28:57.31
Each summer they bring
20 medical school students
00:28:57.32\00:29:01.02
to learn what
dinosaurs are and to learn
00:29:01.03\00:29:03.55
what Seventh-day
Adventist are as a subtext.
00:29:03.56\00:29:08.61
Each year they
leave with 20 students
00:29:08.62\00:29:10.69
whose lives have been
influenced for the better.
00:29:10.70\00:29:13.66
In the words of the
father of one of these students,
00:29:13.67\00:29:16.45
a prominent Dallas businessman,
00:29:16.46\00:29:19.44
who stopped by my
office three years
00:29:19.45\00:29:21.80
after his son had come
to the dinosaur project.
00:29:21.81\00:29:25.34
He said that experience
changes my son's life.
00:29:25.35\00:29:29.94
I cannot thank you enough
00:29:29.95\00:29:31.87
for what you have done for him.
00:29:31.88\00:29:35.81
Why do I tell you this?
00:29:35.82\00:29:38.98
These fellow Christians
were looking for a scientist
00:29:38.99\00:29:43.42
with genuinely open minds,
00:29:43.43\00:29:45.53
people who are willing to
consider all the evidence.
00:29:45.54\00:29:48.88
They were
thrilled to find teachers
00:29:48.89\00:29:51.41
who challenged Darwin.
00:29:51.42\00:29:53.43
They were pleased to discover
00:29:53.44\00:29:55.51
real scientists
doing real research,
00:29:55.52\00:29:57.89
who affirmed the recent
creation in six literal days,
00:29:57.90\00:30:01.91
not evolution
over millions of years.
00:30:01.92\00:30:05.08
They wanted to hear the evidence
00:30:05.09\00:30:06.53
for worldwide
catastrophic flood.
00:30:06.54\00:30:10.00
And we were
happy to oblige them.
00:30:10.01\00:30:14.30
Seventh-day
Adventist schools everywhere
00:30:14.31\00:30:16.43
have the opportunity to
present the sort of education
00:30:16.44\00:30:19.95
that will capture
the attention of people
00:30:19.96\00:30:22.24
like these teachers and students
00:30:22.25\00:30:23.90
from Trinity Christian Academy.
00:30:23.91\00:30:27.07
If we do, we really
can be educational leaders.
00:30:27.08\00:30:31.92
Now it's not the
time to back off. Amen.
00:30:31.93\00:30:35.96
To apologize or to keep silent,
00:30:35.97\00:30:40.95
but maybe you're not yet certain
00:30:40.96\00:30:42.79
that creation is that important.
00:30:42.80\00:30:45.41
After all a lot of
really intelligent people
00:30:45.42\00:30:48.84
deny the Biblical
account, and some of them
00:30:48.85\00:30:52.06
even make fun of the idea of
believing what the Bible says.
00:30:52.07\00:30:56.97
Let's take a quick look
at what's at stake in this.
00:30:56.98\00:31:02.12
This past year I went
through the whole Bible,
00:31:02.13\00:31:04.10
beginning with Genesis
and ending with Revelation,
00:31:04.11\00:31:07.57
looking for texts that
have to do with creation.
00:31:07.58\00:31:11.64
I found 22 pages
of single spaced texts
00:31:11.65\00:31:16.54
that talk about
creation and the creator God.
00:31:16.55\00:31:20.37
Twenty six books cover
this topic and some of them,
00:31:20.38\00:31:24.57
this is a major
theme for the book.
00:31:24.58\00:31:29.52
But what is its
importance to us?
00:31:29.53\00:31:32.26
Why does it matter so much?
00:31:32.27\00:31:36.14
Number one, the
basis of our worship
00:31:36.15\00:31:40.38
is explained in Revelation 4:11,
00:31:40.39\00:31:43.86
where we read that the 24 elders
00:31:43.87\00:31:45.79
fell down to worship God saying,
00:31:45.80\00:31:49.44
"You are worthy, O
God, and I love these words,
00:31:54.15\00:31:57.65
to receive glory
and honor and power.
00:31:57.66\00:32:02.09
For you created all things
and by your will they exist
00:32:02.10\00:32:07.21
and were created."
00:32:07.22\00:32:08.52
Amen. Creation is
fundamental to worship.
00:32:08.53\00:32:12.03
Even a Paul says
in Romans 1:20-25,
00:32:12.04\00:32:16.16
For since the
creation of the world
00:32:16.17\00:32:18.70
His invisible
attributes are clearly seen,
00:32:18.71\00:32:21.54
being understood by
the things that are made.
00:32:21.55\00:32:24.34
Even His eternal
power and God head,
00:32:24.35\00:32:26.46
so that they are without excuse.
00:32:26.47\00:32:28.81
Because, although they knew God,
00:32:28.82\00:32:30.44
they did not glorify Him as God,
00:32:30.45\00:32:33.41
nor were thankful, but
became futile in their thoughts.
00:32:33.42\00:32:37.51
Their foolish
hearts were darkened.
00:32:37.52\00:32:39.28
Professing
themselves to be wise,
00:32:39.29\00:32:41.90
they became fools,
00:32:41.91\00:32:43.81
and changed the glory
of the incorruptible God.
00:32:43.82\00:32:46.61
What is the glory of God?
00:32:46.62\00:32:48.29
That's His creation,
that's what makes Him God.
00:32:48.30\00:32:52.23
Changed him into an image
made like corruptible man,
00:32:52.24\00:32:56.36
and birds, and four footed
beasts, and creeping things.
00:32:56.37\00:33:01.05
You ever seen that story before.
00:33:01.06\00:33:04.99
Therefore God gave
them up to uncleanness,
00:33:05.00\00:33:07.72
in the lust of their hearts,
00:33:07.73\00:33:08.90
to dishonor their
bodies among themselves.
00:33:08.91\00:33:11.40
Who changed the truth of
God, His creatorship into a lie,
00:33:11.41\00:33:16.83
and worshiped and
served the creature
00:33:16.84\00:33:21.89
rather than the
Creator, who is blessed forever.
00:33:21.90\00:33:25.18
You see that.
00:33:25.19\00:33:26.24
Worship is due
to who created you.
00:33:26.25\00:33:32.34
That's the basis, the biblical
basis for worship is creation.
00:33:32.35\00:33:37.71
If we evolve then
worship is due to our ancestors,
00:33:37.72\00:33:42.25
man, and birds, and four-footed
things and creeping things.
00:33:42.26\00:33:49.44
Thus, if God did not
create us as He said He did,
00:33:49.45\00:33:52.67
we have no basis
for worshiping Him.
00:33:52.68\00:33:58.00
Not only worship, but
our salvation is laid out
00:33:58.01\00:34:01.02
in terms of creation.
00:34:01.03\00:34:02.83
One of my
favorite texts for this,
00:34:02.84\00:34:04.49
there are many in the Bible
00:34:04.50\00:34:05.49
that connect it
to as Isaiah 43:1,
00:34:05.50\00:34:08.57
which I imagine
many of you know.
00:34:08.58\00:34:11.42
"Thus says the
Lord, he who created you,
00:34:11.43\00:34:13.47
O Jacob, he who formed
you, O Israel, creation:
00:34:13.48\00:34:19.06
Fear not, for I
have redeemed you,
00:34:19.07\00:34:23.23
I have called you by your name,
00:34:23.24\00:34:25.60
and you are mine,
creation, redemption."
00:34:25.61\00:34:32.05
Without the Genesis
story of a perfect creation
00:34:32.06\00:34:35.11
on a perfect earth,
without the story in Genesis
00:34:35.12\00:34:40.12
of a perfect
creation and a perfect earth,
00:34:40.13\00:34:43.86
with the subsequent
fall leading to death,
00:34:43.87\00:34:48.82
responsibility for sin, rest
with God who chose to make man
00:34:48.83\00:34:53.46
by the process of
evolution with sin and death
00:34:53.47\00:34:56.33
and undergo a
necessary part of the process.
00:34:56.34\00:35:01.67
That takes away entirely
the need for a sacrifice
00:35:01.68\00:35:07.05
as a remedy for sin,
given to us who are holy
00:35:07.06\00:35:11.49
and worthy by a loving Savior.
00:35:11.50\00:35:16.59
Without the story of Genesis,
00:35:16.60\00:35:20.25
without a perfect
six day of creation,
00:35:20.26\00:35:22.97
we have no hope of redemption.
00:35:22.98\00:35:26.11
Not only worship and salvation,
but the whole concept of God,
00:35:26.12\00:35:30.53
who God is and whether
his word is trustworthy
00:35:30.54\00:35:33.48
is invested in the
Fourth Commandment.
00:35:33.49\00:35:36.45
In Exodus 31,
that's not normally
00:35:36.46\00:35:39.05
where we turn for the story,
00:35:39.06\00:35:40.98
but listen to
what it says there,
00:35:40.99\00:35:43.51
"The Lord spoke
unto Moses, saying,
00:35:43.52\00:35:45.23
For in six days the
Lord made heavens and earth
00:35:45.24\00:35:48.65
and on the seventh day,
he rested and was refreshed.
00:35:48.66\00:35:52.52
And when he had made an end
00:35:52.53\00:35:55.21
of speaking with
him on Mount Sinai.
00:35:55.22\00:35:58.26
He gave Moses
two tablets of stone
00:35:58.27\00:36:03.51
written with the finger of God.
00:36:03.52\00:36:08.66
Consider what
this passage is saying,
00:36:08.67\00:36:11.27
God wrote with His own
finger in the tablet of stone,
00:36:11.28\00:36:17.72
He wrote that He had
created the earth in six days.
00:36:17.73\00:36:22.47
It seems to me if God did
not create in six literal days,
00:36:22.48\00:36:25.82
that He said He did,
and wrote it with His finger
00:36:25.83\00:36:29.15
in a table of
stone, that would make God
00:36:29.16\00:36:31.45
deliberately deceitful.
00:36:31.46\00:36:36.85
If that were the
case, what hope do we have
00:36:36.86\00:36:39.56
that other things
He said are reliable?
00:36:39.57\00:36:43.42
Or perhaps God did really
say that or write it in stone,
00:36:43.43\00:36:46.65
perhaps Moses made the story up,
00:36:46.66\00:36:49.44
that God created
the earth in six days.
00:36:49.45\00:36:52.11
But Moses was lying,
then what hope do we have
00:36:52.12\00:36:54.92
that other things Moses
wrote are true in that case.
00:36:54.93\00:36:58.86
You're only
reading of that passage
00:36:58.87\00:37:00.47
that does justice to God
00:37:00.48\00:37:02.14
and His integrity is
a straight forward one.
00:37:02.15\00:37:05.03
He told us
precisely what He had done
00:37:05.04\00:37:08.13
and then he edged it indelibly
in rock with his own finger.
00:37:08.14\00:37:14.24
So the doctrine of creation
00:37:14.25\00:37:15.64
is not just one among
many important beliefs.
00:37:15.65\00:37:20.29
Creation is about as
fundamental as it gets,
00:37:20.30\00:37:23.88
creation is the
foundation of our faith.
00:37:23.89\00:37:28.89
Students of Daniel, Revelation
know that the remnant church
00:37:28.90\00:37:32.62
is called into existence at
the very time in earth's history
00:37:32.63\00:37:36.06
when a major new apostasy
arises concerning origins.
00:37:36.07\00:37:40.96
Amen.
00:37:40.97\00:37:42.34
God's remedy was to bring
into being a group of believers,
00:37:42.35\00:37:45.50
whose name Seventh-day Adventist
00:37:45.51\00:37:49.23
emphasizes two
cardinal doctrines.
00:37:49.24\00:37:52.28
Christ's soon return
and God's creatorship.
00:37:52.29\00:37:57.59
Saying with a loud voice,
00:37:57.60\00:37:59.34
Fear God, and give glory to him,
00:37:59.35\00:38:02.41
for the hour of
his judgment is come.
00:38:02.42\00:38:04.56
That's His soon coming.
00:38:04.57\00:38:06.88
Judgment is not bad
news, it's good news,
00:38:06.89\00:38:09.66
it means Jesus is
coming back and worship him.
00:38:09.67\00:38:15.46
Worship has to do with Sabbath,
00:38:15.47\00:38:17.39
Sabbath has to do with creation,
00:38:17.40\00:38:19.60
Him who made the heaven,
and the earth, and the seas,
00:38:19.61\00:38:23.01
and the fountains of waters.
00:38:23.02\00:38:25.32
So what really
happened in October of 1844?
00:38:25.33\00:38:32.30
This audience knows all
about the Millerite movement,
00:38:32.31\00:38:35.53
the great disappointment,
00:38:35.54\00:38:37.26
the new understanding
of the heavenly sanctuary
00:38:37.27\00:38:40.03
discovered by our
spiritual four bearers.
00:38:40.04\00:38:42.43
I don't have to tell
you about the beginning
00:38:42.44\00:38:45.32
of the investigative judgment.
00:38:45.33\00:38:49.03
But another profoundly
important event occurred
00:38:49.04\00:38:52.31
at the same time,
possibly the same day,
00:38:52.32\00:38:57.41
foreseeing the wording
of Revelation 10:5 and 6,
00:38:57.42\00:39:02.20
if you compare that
text with the parallel text
00:39:02.21\00:39:05.44
in Daniel chapter 12
verse 7, you'll see that
00:39:05.45\00:39:08.41
there is something added,
00:39:08.42\00:39:09.84
that is very timely
in the Revelation text.
00:39:09.85\00:39:13.97
"The angel whom I saw standing
on the sea and the land,"
00:39:13.98\00:39:16.91
this is Revelation 10:5 and 6,
00:39:16.92\00:39:19.93
"raised his hand to heaven,
00:39:19.94\00:39:21.31
And swore by him who
lives for ever and ever,
00:39:21.32\00:39:25.35
who created the heaven,
and the things that are in it,
00:39:25.36\00:39:28.61
and the earth and the
things that are in it,
00:39:28.62\00:39:30.58
and the sea and the
things that are in it,
00:39:30.59\00:39:33.70
that there should
be time no longer."
00:39:33.71\00:39:36.38
That text about
God's creatorship
00:39:36.39\00:39:39.07
is not in the
parallel passage in Daniel.
00:39:39.08\00:39:42.56
That was added
here in Revelation,
00:39:42.57\00:39:44.21
because this was the time of
the great deception on origins.
00:39:44.22\00:39:51.43
In 2009, the
scientific world is marking
00:39:51.44\00:39:56.08
the 150th
anniversary of the publication
00:39:56.09\00:40:00.02
of the Charles Darwin's book,
00:40:00.03\00:40:02.14
"the Origin of Species."
00:40:02.15\00:40:04.31
But most people are
utterly unaware of a blockbuster
00:40:04.32\00:40:09.78
of a book that came
out 15 years earlier
00:40:09.79\00:40:14.04
in Mid-October, 1844.
00:40:14.05\00:40:19.79
The book was entitled
00:40:19.80\00:40:21.10
"Vestiges of the
Natural History of Creation,"
00:40:21.11\00:40:24.10
it was written and
published anonymously
00:40:24.11\00:40:26.19
by Robert Chambers,
a British bookseller.
00:40:26.20\00:40:29.71
In this 400 page book,
it gave a comprehensive
00:40:29.72\00:40:33.02
account of the
origin of the universe,
00:40:33.03\00:40:36.00
the origin of life
and even the origin
00:40:36.01\00:40:38.07
of human beings without a God.
00:40:38.08\00:40:41.34
In a completely
materialistic framework.
00:40:41.35\00:40:44.51
This book was the
first deliberate promotion
00:40:44.52\00:40:47.74
of a Godless theory of origins.
00:40:47.75\00:40:51.10
And it came out
in Mid-October, 1844.
00:40:51.11\00:40:56.37
The book was an instant success,
00:40:56.38\00:40:58.92
selling over 20,000
copies in seven editions
00:40:58.93\00:41:02.06
during the first 10
years, making it perhaps
00:41:02.07\00:41:04.73
the best selling book
of the whole 19th century.
00:41:04.74\00:41:08.48
It was widely
distributed on the continent,
00:41:08.49\00:41:11.26
it was read by
poets and statesmen like.
00:41:11.27\00:41:14.68
Abraham Lincoln
and Queen Victoria
00:41:14.69\00:41:18.03
both had read the book.
00:41:18.04\00:41:20.89
Physicist Sir David
Brewster warned that this book
00:41:20.90\00:41:24.08
"Vestiges" stood a
"fair chance of poisoning
00:41:24.09\00:41:27.15
the fountains of science,
00:41:27.16\00:41:28.76
and sapping the
foundations of religion."
00:41:28.77\00:41:33.07
Darwin himself, who in
July of 1844 had finished
00:41:33.08\00:41:36.35
the manuscript and
committed it to publication,
00:41:36.36\00:41:40.53
he was fearful, he was
devastate about the publication
00:41:40.54\00:41:44.16
of "Vestiges" thinking
he had had lost his chance
00:41:44.17\00:41:46.72
to get credit for the
ideas he thought he deserved.
00:41:46.73\00:41:51.30
A modern historian James
Secord recently has written
00:41:51.31\00:41:54.34
a treatise on Chamber's
book, published in 2000.
00:41:54.35\00:41:58.38
In the following
passage he spells out the sense
00:41:58.39\00:42:00.91
of the importance of this work
00:42:00.92\00:42:02.99
in changing peoples'
minds about evolution.
00:42:03.00\00:42:05.57
Where did the change take place?
00:42:05.58\00:42:07.78
We often think
it's Charles Darwin,
00:42:07.79\00:42:09.34
but listen to this.
00:42:09.35\00:42:10.70
He says, "How did evolution
00:42:10.71\00:42:13.29
gain this pivotal
role in the public arena?
00:42:13.30\00:42:16.79
The answer turns
out to have little to do
00:42:16.80\00:42:19.28
with Darwinian biology, little
to do with Darwinian biology
00:42:19.29\00:42:24.71
or Big Bang astronomy.
00:42:24.72\00:42:26.84
Instead, the critical period
00:42:26.85\00:42:28.34
is the first half of
the nineteenth century,
00:42:28.35\00:42:31.55
and the turning point is the
response of readers to Vestiges,
00:42:31.56\00:42:36.61
the turning point is what?
00:42:36.62\00:42:39.48
Response of readers
to this book published
00:42:39.49\00:42:42.43
in Mid-October, 1844.
00:42:42.44\00:42:46.01
So that is what happened
on earth in October, 1844.
00:42:46.02\00:42:50.81
God brought this
people into existence
00:42:50.82\00:42:53.09
at the very time on
end, this new apostasy
00:42:53.10\00:42:55.45
was thrust on the world.
00:42:55.46\00:42:57.65
We are here to be the
repairs of that bridge,
00:42:57.66\00:43:00.44
that restores a pass to walk in.
00:43:00.45\00:43:03.79
What impact has this church
had on the advance of evolution?
00:43:03.80\00:43:10.01
In 2004, I
attended a special symposium
00:43:10.02\00:43:13.53
on creation and evolution,
00:43:13.54\00:43:15.65
sponsored by the
Geological Society of America,
00:43:15.66\00:43:18.80
at their meeting in Denver.
00:43:18.81\00:43:21.52
It was a big
deal, at this symposium,
00:43:21.53\00:43:25.58
two separate
speakers were considering
00:43:25.59\00:43:29.31
the origin of the
modern creation movement.
00:43:29.32\00:43:33.80
Both of them showed
a picture on the screen
00:43:33.81\00:43:36.09
of the one person
who'd done more to advance
00:43:36.10\00:43:38.90
creationism than any
other in the year of evolution.
00:43:38.91\00:43:44.10
Whose picture do you
supposed was on the screen?
00:43:44.11\00:43:48.71
Ellen G White, I was thrilled.
00:43:48.72\00:43:57.24
So what are we doing to
promote creatorship of God?
00:43:57.25\00:44:02.63
We can certainly honor
Him by accepting His word
00:44:02.64\00:44:05.30
on the basis of the
confidence we have in Him.
00:44:05.31\00:44:08.40
We're told in Hebrews 1:3,
00:44:08.41\00:44:11.74
By faith we understand
that the worlds were framed
00:44:11.75\00:44:14.51
by the word of God.
00:44:14.52\00:44:16.92
So that the
things which are seen
00:44:16.93\00:44:18.49
were not made of
things which are invisible.
00:44:18.50\00:44:21.10
That means that we
have to do exercise faith
00:44:21.11\00:44:24.66
to believe in God's creatorship.
00:44:24.67\00:44:27.03
We ought to expect
that, we ought to embrace it.
00:44:27.04\00:44:32.02
But we can do more,
those of us who are scientists
00:44:32.03\00:44:35.50
can carry our experiments
out to try to learn more about
00:44:35.51\00:44:38.10
the past history of the earth.
00:44:38.11\00:44:40.56
And shouldn't these
experiments give additional
00:44:40.57\00:44:42.77
confidence to our
understanding of God's word.
00:44:42.78\00:44:45.56
If we use the information
in the Bible to guide us
00:44:45.57\00:44:48.62
as to what experiments
might be interesting.
00:44:48.63\00:44:51.84
Who knows what
results we might have
00:44:51.85\00:44:54.87
as God opens His treasure house
as He promised in Deuteronomy.
00:44:54.88\00:45:01.06
A handful of
Christians who are scientists,
00:45:01.07\00:45:06.37
nearly all of them
Seventh-day Adventists have been
00:45:06.38\00:45:09.35
pursuing these
goals for many years.
00:45:09.36\00:45:12.02
I'll try to give you a little
sample of these operations.
00:45:12.03\00:45:18.06
I spent the month
of May camped in a tent
00:45:18.07\00:45:22.67
in the deserts of Utah,
00:45:22.68\00:45:24.79
working with Dr. Leonard Brand,
00:45:24.80\00:45:26.66
Chair of the
Division in Natural Sciences
00:45:26.67\00:45:28.49
at Loma Linda
University and his students.
00:45:28.50\00:45:31.96
On a project designed to look
00:45:31.97\00:45:33.72
through the
entire geological column,
00:45:33.73\00:45:36.56
to see what we can
learn about time and process.
00:45:36.57\00:45:39.73
To see if the rocks
tell us millions of years
00:45:39.74\00:45:42.39
or tell us something about
rapid sudden sedimentation.
00:45:42.40\00:45:46.22
We have long
suspected that the rock record
00:45:46.23\00:45:48.79
was not being read correctly
by standard geologists.
00:45:48.80\00:45:52.59
But now we were examining
it with quantitative tools
00:45:52.60\00:45:56.02
that will allow us to
say something specific.
00:45:56.03\00:45:59.30
I could share a fascinating
progress report with me
00:45:59.31\00:46:02.09
if we have time,
with you if we have time.
00:46:02.10\00:46:05.07
But now I can say that we
are finding many indications
00:46:05.08\00:46:08.37
that there were inconsistencies
00:46:08.38\00:46:10.00
between the
standard long age model
00:46:10.01\00:46:12.86
and what we are
seeing in the field.
00:46:12.87\00:46:15.67
Although it maybe sometime
00:46:15.68\00:46:16.99
before we can properly
prepare and publish this data.
00:46:17.00\00:46:21.09
We will not hesitate to
share it with our church family.
00:46:21.10\00:46:27.71
I spent the month of
June in a tent camped
00:46:27.72\00:46:31.69
in a remote region
of eastern Wyoming,
00:46:31.70\00:46:34.27
in the least populated county,
00:46:34.28\00:46:36.40
in the least populated
state in the United states,
00:46:36.41\00:46:39.51
where we've been excavating
00:46:39.52\00:46:40.91
the remains of
dinosaurs for over 12 years.
00:46:40.92\00:46:44.78
We first began this
project with an invitation
00:46:44.79\00:46:47.46
of an affordable
Christian gentleman, rancher,
00:46:47.47\00:46:51.23
who wanted the resources of his
ranch to be used for science.
00:46:51.24\00:46:57.33
A secular paleontologist
had been working on the ranch
00:46:57.34\00:47:01.08
and when the
ranch owner told him
00:47:01.09\00:47:03.50
that he wanted him to
share the idea of creation
00:47:03.51\00:47:06.94
with the young
people he was bringing out
00:47:06.95\00:47:08.72
to show
dinosaurs to on his ranch.
00:47:08.73\00:47:12.47
The secular
paleontologist was incensed
00:47:12.48\00:47:16.49
that he would have to
say something about creation.
00:47:16.50\00:47:19.01
He didn't even say, he
couldn't talk about evolution,
00:47:19.02\00:47:21.33
he just says, I want you
to tell them about creation.
00:47:21.34\00:47:26.43
He laughed and as he laughed,
00:47:26.44\00:47:28.00
he shouted over his shoulder,
00:47:28.01\00:47:29.18
this is the last day
that science will be done
00:47:29.19\00:47:31.44
on the Hanson Ranch.
00:47:31.45\00:47:33.49
And he had hear one of
his students had scrolled
00:47:33.50\00:47:36.27
the same sentiment on a shack,
00:47:36.28\00:47:38.58
they left behind
in the spray paint.
00:47:38.59\00:47:43.54
That was the challenge
we didn't take lightly.
00:47:43.55\00:47:47.02
With the help of God we set
out to do excellence science,
00:47:47.03\00:47:50.73
there would be a
credit to the God we worship
00:47:50.74\00:47:52.86
and to the church we serve.
00:47:52.87\00:47:56.07
It is risky to links
small plans with a big God.
00:47:56.08\00:48:01.85
He has taken us far
beyond our aspirations
00:48:01.86\00:48:04.52
and enabled us to
pioneer new technologies
00:48:04.53\00:48:07.59
involving high resolution GPS.
00:48:07.60\00:48:11.08
That we can map
the bones in the core
00:48:11.09\00:48:13.36
and built virtual
queries in our computers,
00:48:13.37\00:48:16.24
reconstructions
that have revolutionized
00:48:16.25\00:48:19.32
the way
paleontology can be done.
00:48:19.33\00:48:22.52
We can view in the computer,
00:48:22.53\00:48:23.99
photographic
images of our queries
00:48:24.00\00:48:26.44
with all the bones in
place, even after the bones
00:48:26.45\00:48:28.92
have been physically removed.
00:48:28.93\00:48:33.47
As a result, paleontologists
can now do something
00:48:33.48\00:48:37.31
that they've always dreamed of.
00:48:37.32\00:48:38.66
Which is to see what the
bones look like in the ground.
00:48:38.67\00:48:42.54
We've presented our
results yearly and meetings
00:48:42.55\00:48:45.18
at the Geological
Society of America
00:48:45.19\00:48:47.69
and at the Society of
Vertebrate Paleontologists.
00:48:47.70\00:48:52.25
Four years later after we began,
00:48:52.26\00:48:55.21
we were having
lunch with colleagues,
00:48:55.22\00:48:57.59
including a, the
head paleontologist
00:48:57.60\00:49:00.84
with the Los
Angeles County Museum.
00:49:00.85\00:49:04.23
And when he found out
where we were working.
00:49:04.24\00:49:08.28
We were surprised, he
seemed to know all about us.
00:49:08.29\00:49:12.12
His comment was,
00:49:12.13\00:49:13.85
I hear that you're
doing good work out there.
00:49:13.86\00:49:18.18
The word good is
circulating about us,
00:49:18.19\00:49:21.57
in spite of the fact that
these secular paleontologists
00:49:21.58\00:49:24.21
know we are
believers in the biblical
00:49:24.22\00:49:25.83
account of origins
and the global flood.
00:49:25.84\00:49:28.41
Amen. That's not all.
00:49:28.42\00:49:31.28
With my
colleagues, we determined
00:49:31.29\00:49:32.88
that the bones we excavated
were not going to end up
00:49:32.89\00:49:35.87
in a musky basement somewhere
00:49:35.88\00:49:38.17
as often happens
with such things.
00:49:38.18\00:49:40.87
We developed an online
museum to present our findings
00:49:40.88\00:49:44.79
to the
paleontological community.
00:49:44.80\00:49:47.32
Within six years we had the
largest collection of fossil,
00:49:47.33\00:49:51.49
dinosaur
fossils on the Internet.
00:49:51.50\00:49:53.70
The only
collection on the Internet
00:49:53.71\00:49:55.80
that had
pictures of all the bones.
00:49:55.81\00:49:59.42
We thought we
would list our museum.
00:49:59.43\00:50:02.23
We were quite proud of it,
00:50:02.24\00:50:04.97
on a government funded site
00:50:04.98\00:50:06.71
run by University of
California, Berkeley,
00:50:06.72\00:50:09.17
whose stated goal
was to represent online
00:50:09.18\00:50:12.86
all sites with fossil content.
00:50:12.87\00:50:15.94
Although the Berkeley
site contained many links,
00:50:15.95\00:50:19.71
some of them
were nothing more than
00:50:19.72\00:50:21.24
Joel Smith's homepage with
a couple pictures of fossils.
00:50:21.25\00:50:26.31
I send our URL in
any way and shortly,
00:50:26.32\00:50:29.18
after received the letter saying
00:50:29.19\00:50:31.57
that they had
accepted our museum
00:50:31.58\00:50:33.02
and it will be
represented there.
00:50:33.03\00:50:35.86
I waited a week or so and
then try to find it online,
00:50:35.87\00:50:41.34
it didn't show up.
00:50:41.35\00:50:42.84
So I wrote asking
where the link was.
00:50:42.85\00:50:48.89
To my astonishment they said,
00:50:48.90\00:50:51.88
we were not suppose to have said
00:50:51.89\00:50:53.60
your site was accepted.
00:50:53.61\00:50:56.07
It is still out for review.
00:50:56.08\00:50:59.65
There months later, I
got a rejection notice,
00:50:59.66\00:51:05.99
saying that our site was
00:51:06.00\00:51:07.55
neither
scientific nor educational,
00:51:07.56\00:51:12.92
it was a clear enablement case
of discrimination against us
00:51:12.93\00:51:16.02
because of our personal
belief in a creator God.
00:51:16.03\00:51:18.83
Nothing on our site advertised
anything of our beliefs,
00:51:18.84\00:51:22.75
but the whole community knows
00:51:22.76\00:51:24.27
that we are
creationists. Praise God. Amen.
00:51:24.28\00:51:28.37
We had pioneered in the
field of online museums,
00:51:28.38\00:51:32.07
our website had
the largest collection
00:51:32.08\00:51:34.34
of dinosaur
bones on the Internet.
00:51:34.35\00:51:36.45
And the only such site with
photographs of all the bones,
00:51:36.46\00:51:40.22
but we were not
scientific or educational.
00:51:40.23\00:51:44.73
To put it mildly,
I was not pleased.
00:51:44.74\00:51:49.21
But I was
determined to do even more
00:51:49.22\00:51:51.11
than the secular
museum sites were doing.
00:51:51.12\00:51:54.50
Since that time we
have developed techniques
00:51:54.51\00:51:57.63
for producing 3D virtual
reality images of the bones.
00:51:57.64\00:52:02.78
In addition to the photographs,
00:52:02.79\00:52:04.35
you can now see
thousands of 3D images
00:52:04.36\00:52:08.05
that you can take your
mouse and rotate the bone around
00:52:08.06\00:52:10.99
and see it from all sides.
00:52:11.00\00:52:13.32
We gave a paper
on this technique
00:52:13.33\00:52:15.60
at the Geological
Society of America meetings.
00:52:15.61\00:52:20.21
We also since we have developed
these virtual reality maps,
00:52:20.22\00:52:24.06
so we could see all
the bones in the query.
00:52:24.07\00:52:26.60
We decided we
would go one step further
00:52:26.61\00:52:29.35
and allow those who
are visiting our site
00:52:29.36\00:52:31.81
to click on a
button that will show them
00:52:31.82\00:52:33.94
where the bone
they were looking out,
00:52:33.95\00:52:35.41
it was found in a query.
00:52:35.42\00:52:36.80
So you can now do that,
any bone in the collection,
00:52:36.81\00:52:39.78
you can click on the map button,
00:52:39.79\00:52:42.07
it up comes the picture
of the bone in the query
00:52:42.08\00:52:45.48
with all the
bones that surround it.
00:52:45.49\00:52:47.53
No other museum
site in the world,
00:52:55.01\00:52:57.29
no other museum site in
the world has these features.
00:52:57.30\00:53:03.63
We went on to
present two additional papers
00:53:03.64\00:53:06.41
at national meetings of the
Geological Society of America.
00:53:06.42\00:53:09.89
We published the paper
00:53:09.90\00:53:11.33
in the symposium
volume on our website.
00:53:11.34\00:53:14.09
We also have
launched an educational site,
00:53:14.10\00:53:17.51
sharing in
philosophically mutual terms,
00:53:17.52\00:53:21.17
the excitement and
interest of dinosaurs.
00:53:21.18\00:53:23.19
So that students can
learn about dinosaurs
00:53:23.20\00:53:25.78
without learning about
millions of years in evolution.
00:53:25.79\00:53:29.39
This is for public school
children as well as their own.
00:53:29.40\00:53:32.86
Many of you would
enjoy visiting this site,
00:53:32.87\00:53:35.10
seeing some of the
neat things that was there.
00:53:35.11\00:53:37.86
All these from
bunch of creationists
00:53:37.87\00:53:39.89
of the small Seventh-day
Adventist University in Texas.
00:53:39.90\00:53:45.34
By the way, if you
want to go to these sites,
00:53:45.35\00:53:47.15
the address is (SWAU)
00:53:47.16\00:53:49.68
southwestern
adventistuniversity.edu
00:53:49.69\00:53:53.30
and you can put in
front of that either fossil
00:53:53.31\00:53:55.79
or dinosaur or
dinodig, any one of those words
00:53:55.80\00:53:59.16
to go to one of these sites.
00:53:59.17\00:54:01.62
A dinosaur paleontologist,
probably the best known
00:54:01.63\00:54:04.80
dinosaur authority in the world,
00:54:04.81\00:54:06.63
recently came to
our campus to learn
00:54:06.64\00:54:08.83
how to map queries
using the techniques we use.
00:54:08.84\00:54:11.95
While he was there, we
showed him our museum site
00:54:11.96\00:54:14.56
and our educational site.
00:54:14.57\00:54:17.75
And he had with him the director
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of one of the
largest museums in the world.
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His response in an e
mail was the following.
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He said, "I was astounded,
00:54:26.01\00:54:28.83
I have never seen
before such precise
00:54:28.84\00:54:31.26
and comprehensive
data management system
00:54:31.27\00:54:34.02
for
paleontology and for the lab.
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No other museum
or university comes
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close for dinosaur digs."
00:54:39.56\00:54:41.36
This is the guy
that's been on major dinosaur
00:54:41.37\00:54:44.00
digs all over the world.
00:54:44.01\00:54:46.57
God has richly
blessed us in this work.
00:54:46.58\00:54:48.85
It's a testimony to His name
00:54:48.86\00:54:50.74
that this
recognition comes. Amen.
00:54:50.75\00:54:55.28
During the last two
weeks just before I came here,
00:54:55.29\00:54:58.94
I was camped in a tent
high above the Arctic Circle
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where the sun circles the
sky overhead 24 hours a day.
00:55:02.35\00:55:06.53
The temperature
stayed is zero degrees
00:55:06.54\00:55:08.93
centigrade around the clock,
00:55:08.94\00:55:10.23
and magnetic compasses
pointed anywhere but north.
00:55:10.24\00:55:13.58
We were looking at
deposits that were supposed
00:55:13.59\00:55:16.57
to be 17 million years old.
00:55:16.58\00:55:19.48
These plants were
unique, you could have build
00:55:19.49\00:55:22.52
a house out of the wood or
burned it in your fireplaces.
00:55:22.53\00:55:25.74
We got cones, frozen
cones out of permafrost
00:55:25.75\00:55:29.27
that we brought
back to examine to see
00:55:29.28\00:55:31.63
whether we can get
living cells out of them,
00:55:31.64\00:55:34.47
or whether we can extract DNA.
00:55:34.48\00:55:36.91
If we were
successfully challenged,
00:55:36.92\00:55:39.26
the idea that these
are 17 millions year old.
00:55:39.27\00:55:43.48
These are another
projects of occupied
00:55:43.49\00:55:45.27
or attention for a
professional lifetime.
00:55:45.28\00:55:48.31
We have found encouraging
results from every project
00:55:48.32\00:55:51.34
we've undertaken,
giving us data consisting
00:55:51.35\00:55:54.06
with our own
model of earth history
00:55:54.07\00:55:55.83
and encouraging us to believe
00:55:55.84\00:55:57.54
that there are
lots of our answers
00:55:57.55\00:55:59.21
out there yet to be found. Amen.
00:55:59.22\00:56:02.39
And we proved the
biblical model of origins
00:56:02.40\00:56:05.12
and the global flood, correct?
00:56:05.13\00:56:07.95
No, but that was
never our intent.
00:56:07.96\00:56:10.24
Science is not
about proving things,
00:56:10.25\00:56:12.70
it's about testing
ideas with experiments.
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Ideas that correctly predict
the outcomes of experiments
00:56:15.80\00:56:18.97
that haven't yet been
done, or good ideas in science.
00:56:18.98\00:56:23.49
So far the biblical model
of origins in a global flood
00:56:23.50\00:56:26.87
provides a very good model.
00:56:26.88\00:56:29.63