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Series Code: OTR
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01:01 We are Forever His from Joshua, Texas.
01:04 And so we are so glad to be with you this evening. 01:06 In Matthew, it says that 01:08 God sees every sparrow that falls. 01:12 And ASI is God's hand to help the human sparrows 01:16 that fall. 01:17 And I'm sure if they were here tonight, 01:19 they would say thank you. 01:33 I sing because I'm happy 01:38 I sing because I'm free 01:43 For His eye is on the sparrow 01:48 And I know He watches me 01:57 Why should I feel discouraged 02:03 Why should the shadows come 02:08 Why should my heart be lonely 02:14 And long for heaven and home 02:19 When Jesus is my portion 02:24 My constant Friend is He 02:30 His eye is on the sparrow 02:35 And I know He watches me 02:41 His eye is on the sparrow 02:46 And I know He watches me 02:52 I sing because I'm happy 02:57 I sing because I'm free 03:02 For His eye is on the sparrow 03:07 And I know He watches me 03:25 Let not your heart be troubled 03:31 His tender words I hear 03:37 And resting on His goodness 03:43 I lose my doubts and fears 03:49 Though by the path He leadeth 03:55 But one step I may see 04:01 His eye is on the sparrow 04:07 And I know He watches me 04:13 His eye is on the sparrow 04:19 And I know He watches me 04:29 Whenever I am tempted 04:34 Whenever clouds arise 04:39 When songs give place To sighing 04:44 When hope within me dies 04:50 I draw the closer to Him 04:55 From care He sets me free 05:00 His eye is on the sparrow 05:05 And I know He watches me 05:11 His eye is on the sparrow 05:16 And I know He watches me 05:22 I sing because I'm happy 05:27 I sing because I'm free 05:32 For His eye is on the sparrow 05:37 And I know He watches I know He watches 05:42 I know He watches me 05:56 He watches me 09:35 We've come to another time 09:36 when we can share testimonies about 09:38 how God has used us. 09:40 And interestingly enough, all of my MIAs, 09:43 my members in action, reflect sowing seeds, 09:47 planting seeds. 09:49 When you come to ASI, you discover that 09:51 if a seed gets planted in your heart, 09:54 then you can share with others 09:56 or you may go out and plant seeds in others. 10:00 With me is Audrey Balderstone. 10:02 She's the president of ASI Europe. 10:05 And, Audrey, you had some seeds planted in your heart. 10:07 But first, tell me, what do you do 10:09 when you're not working with ASI? 10:13 Well, I'm supposed to be helping my husband 10:16 who has a landscape garden company in his business, 10:20 but with working with the British chapter of ASI 10:24 and with ASI Europe, 10:26 I'm afraid my husband doesn't get too much 10:28 for looking these days. 10:31 Now ASI Europe has some interesting challenges 10:34 that are different from 10:35 what we experience here in America. 10:37 Tell us a little bit about that? 10:38 Well, there are 10 chapters in ASI Europe. 10:41 And, of course, that means 10 different languages 10:45 and different currencies, 10:47 and all of the chapter presidents, 10:50 except one are male. 10:53 They all have their own cultures and agenda. 10:57 So it's very challenging, very interesting 10:59 and very exciting working with them. 11:02 Now last year, you attended the ASI Convention 11:04 in Sacramento for the first time. 11:07 And you came for a specific purpose. 11:09 What did you take away from that experience? 11:12 Well, we were going to have our ASI Convention 11:16 in July this year. 11:18 We have ours every two or every three years. 11:21 And I wanted to see 11:22 what a big ASI Convention was like. 11:25 I took away from it the excitement and thrill 11:30 of hearing about members in action. 11:33 And I wanted to take back to Europe that 11:35 same burning desire to share Christ in the marketplace, 11:40 not just sharing Him 11:42 but that burning desire to share Him, 11:44 and I wanted to communicate that with our members as well. 11:48 So when you took back all of this inspiration, 11:50 what kind of impact did it have on ASI Europe? 11:53 Well, I tried to enthuse the other chapter presidents 11:58 and get them to encourage their members to come 12:01 to the convention and to share the experience. 12:05 Now we have been used to having 12:07 around 100 members at our convention. 12:10 In Barcelona, three years ago, 12:14 we had a membership of about 192. 12:18 Our membership has grown since then to 452. 12:23 But we were expecting with... 12:25 Yeah, we were very thrilled about that. 12:29 But with the convention being in England, 12:32 very expensive, people had to travel long distances. 12:36 This is channel in between 12:38 there all the language difficulties, 12:40 we were expecting maybe 120, 150. 12:43 In the event, we had 208 people, 12:46 so something must have happened somewhere. 12:49 So some inspiration stuck somewhere? 12:51 Somewhere. I hope so. 12:53 Well, now tell me some other remarkable things 12:55 happened during that convention? 12:57 Well, we had the great privilege 12:59 of having Dwight Nelson as our speaker, 13:02 and from his keynote address that very first night 13:05 he really set the tone for the whole convention. 13:09 His message was just wonderful. 13:11 And he talked about Paul 13:14 and the Macedonian matrix and how God closed doors 13:18 so that He was pushing Paul towards the open doors 13:22 that he had ready for him. 13:23 And he said, it's the same with us. 13:25 God is pushing us towards these open doors. 13:28 And he had a phrase that night 13:30 that all night long kept ringing my head, 13:32 every time I woke up during the night, 13:34 it was just do it, just do it. 13:38 And it was that urgency that we must just get out and do it, 13:42 share Christ. 13:44 Now in addition to that urgency, 13:46 there's just feeling that, that burning that just do it 13:49 to tell them now kind of a phrase... 13:50 Yes. 13:52 Something unexpected happened at your convention? 13:55 On the Sabbath morning 13:57 we were to take up the offering, 14:00 and we had presented the projects the night before. 14:04 I should tell you that three years ago 14:06 in Barcelona our offering amounted to about 14:10 $30,000, A 24,000. 14:14 Now I know that's the absolute peanuts here, 14:17 and you would be amazed at that. 14:19 But for us, it was quite a good offering 14:21 because all our chapters 14:23 have their own offerings as well. 14:27 That morning, Bernard Beringuet, 14:30 who is the vice president for evangelism, 14:32 and I presented the projects again to a very packed church. 14:36 And we asked for a faith offering of A 100,000. 14:42 For nights before I'd been trying to do 14:45 the math in my head. 14:47 I knew how many people were coming. 14:49 I knew that many of them were struggling, 14:52 really struggling in their businesses. 14:55 And we don't have the big businessmen, 14:58 we have two or three, but we don't have 15:00 the big businessmen that you're having. 15:03 The Sabbath morning service, the atmosphere there, 15:07 I just could not describe to it. 15:10 We could feel the Holy Spirit through every aspect of it. 15:14 And at the end of the service, when the announcement came 15:19 of what the offering was, 15:20 it was 148,000 in that morning. 15:27 I tell you... 15:32 God had really done over and above anything 15:36 we could ask or think. 15:38 And I felt ashamed that 15:40 my faith had not been great enough. 15:43 So you came here, you had a seed planted... 15:45 Yeah. 15:47 It bloomed in ASI Europe, beyond your expectation. 15:51 And now you're going to be 15:52 leading for another three years. 15:54 Praise the Lord. 15:55 Thank you very much, Audrey, 15:57 for sharing how God is working in ASI Europe 15:59 and working with you to plant seeds. 16:01 And during these next few years, 16:03 we plan to have at least five more chapters... 16:06 Five more chapters? More seeds as well. 16:08 Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. 16:16 Our next interview, our next members 16:18 in action is a family affair. 16:21 And it's always interesting to me 16:23 to see how this all works together. 16:25 Now just come close, I know you guys are family, 16:27 but I'm sure you're not scared of each other. 16:30 And I just wanna ask, I know that 16:31 you're in the seed sowing business as well. 16:34 Janice, let me ask you what are these 16:37 seed sowing activities that you're involved with? 16:40 Actually our business 16:42 is actually a seed sowing business. 16:43 We have a family business called Sunizona Family Farms, 16:47 and we grow gourmet, heirloom tomatoes, 16:50 a huge variety of them. 16:51 And also heirloom salad greens and micro greens 16:55 and ship them to very upscale restaurants, resorts. 16:58 But I have this feeling that's not 16:59 what you wanted to know, right? 17:01 Right. Okay. 17:03 You know, God has blessed us so much that 17:06 we just really have felt compelled to share 17:09 what He has blessed us with. 17:11 And one of the things that we have just so much enjoyed 17:14 sharing is having vegetarian cooking seminars, 17:17 and health classes in our little community, 17:21 and it's a small community. 17:22 And then from that it's kind of spawned into Bible studies 17:26 and other types of evangelism, 17:28 but the health has really been a focal point. 17:31 Now so you've done that, you said door to door 17:34 and some variety of different things. 17:35 Well, let me, I'm gonna turn to the young people 17:38 and get the real word from them if that's okay with you. 17:40 Okay, Kymberlee, let me ask you, 17:43 what has the door to door experiences been like? 17:47 Can you tell me of any experiences? 17:49 Have you enjoyed those? Oh, it's been amazing. 17:52 I mean, we knew when we first started 17:54 doing evangelism, we knew nothing about it 17:58 because we had never done it before. 18:00 We had never been involved in it. 18:01 And it was amazing to see how God worked. 18:05 I think one of the most 18:08 wonderful experiences was 18:09 when we had this last year, we did the Appearing survey. 18:13 We had watched the Appearing videos, 18:15 DVDs by Shawn Boonstra. 18:17 And it was just a real inspiration to us. 18:20 And so we thought, well, we wanna do something 18:23 that will give us a chance to reach out to the people 18:25 in our community with the message 18:28 that he had shared. 18:29 And so we wrote a little survey about the Appearing DVD 18:32 and what like questions, you know, 18:34 about the end of time and stuff. 18:35 And we went out and knocked on doors, 18:38 asked the survey to the people. 18:40 And we had a phenomenal response. 18:42 We gave 50 of them out to different guys 18:44 because that's all we ordered. 18:46 And we watched... 18:48 We watched, we came back like a couple weeks later 18:50 and talked to the people and there was this one family 18:52 we went to there. 18:54 It was a really neat experience. 18:55 We talked to them afterwards. 18:57 And they told us that they had watched 18:58 the DVD through like three or four times, 19:01 and they had stopped at each one of the Bible verses, 19:04 had written them down, had checked them up, 19:06 looked them up, made sure it was all right. 19:08 And they told us that, you know, 19:09 they had always heard all this stuff, 19:10 but they never knew if it was true, 19:12 and they had never really heard this stuff 19:14 straight from the Bible, 19:15 and so they were just so amazed 19:17 at what the Bible had to say about these things. 19:20 So you go around doing these things, all of you, 19:23 is that because your parents drag you along? 19:27 No, it's kind of the opposite, actually. 19:29 But we... 19:34 So you drag them along. Okay, that's good. 19:37 That's good. I'll take that. 19:39 Kind of, I mean, like they really encourage us, 19:42 but they're really busy, 19:43 so they can't always come out with us. 19:45 So we usually go out on our own and, 19:49 you know, when we first started, we thought, 19:51 "Oh, yeah, this is gonna be really great." 19:52 You know, you hear all these stories about 19:53 people getting baptized 19:55 and joining the church and everything. 19:56 And we were like, "Oh, yeah, 19:58 this is gonna be really awesome, you know?" 19:59 And so we went out and it was, you know, 20:02 we didn't know what to expect. 20:04 But when we started, things that happened 20:06 exactly the way we had planned and exactly the way 20:08 we had anticipated it to happen, 20:10 and we didn't see people getting baptized, 20:12 you know, like, as soon as we started 20:14 handing them lessons 20:15 for the Bible studies and whatever. 20:17 And so I think the promise that we've had for ourselves, 20:20 as we've been doing this has been... 20:23 Paul talks in Corinthians about 20:25 how God didn't send him to baptize. 20:28 But he sent him to preach the gospel. 20:30 And that's the promise that we've carried 20:32 because as farmers, we've seen how 20:34 when you plant a seed, the results are instantaneous. 20:37 You don't instantly see the fruit coming off of it. 20:40 But God, in His own time and way is gonna bring 20:43 about a harvest even though it may not be when we see it. 20:46 It may not be something that we experienced, 20:48 but it's going to happen. Excellent, excellent. 20:51 Aimee, tell me a little bit 20:53 where did all this inspiration come from? 20:55 I mean, growing up you are passionate 20:58 about sharing Christ? 21:00 Where did that happen? ASI. 21:01 ASI? 21:03 All that happened to you here at ASI? 21:04 How did that happen? 21:06 Because like you see all the people and you hear 21:08 what they are doing in their community 21:09 and you go to the booth and you see what you can do. 21:12 And that's just really inspired me 21:14 on what I can do in my community. 21:16 Is this true, Byron? 21:18 I mean, this just sound like it's right 21:19 or did you culture on this question? 21:22 Well, I think that it would be fair to say that 21:26 we would be a very ordinary, 21:30 pew sitting family if it hadn't been 21:34 for coming here to ASI year after year. 21:37 And I think, like, 21:38 especially working with the young people, 21:41 these guys go to the door and do canvassing 21:45 after having just a day of training 21:47 or even an evening of training here 21:49 in the youth program, and I say, 21:51 "Wow, I couldn't do it if I spent two years." 21:54 And so it definitely remove the barriers 21:58 and the obstacles and you say, "Why not? 22:00 Yeah, we can." Excellent. 22:02 Now, Charles, I'm gonna give you 22:03 the last word because I would imagine 22:05 with three sisters, one of your sisters 22:06 isn't here tonight and your mom, 22:09 you and your dad often feel outnumbered. 22:10 So let me give you the last word. 22:12 And is this indeed true? Would you agree with that? 22:15 Would you choose any other activities 22:16 for your family to be involved with? 22:18 Not really because of the fact that I just love doing it. 22:21 When I go and do the door knocking on doors 22:24 and giving Bible studies, 22:26 it just encourages me even more. 22:28 And so it's not just something that you kind of 22:29 just slog away doing. 22:31 It's just something that encourages more and more, 22:32 and I just get more excited about it, the more I do it. 22:34 Excellent. 22:36 Well, and the result of planting seeds 22:38 actually comes back and plants a seed in your heart. 22:41 And I believe you have a song 22:42 that actually speaks to the challenge of us 22:44 meeting that need to be able to plant seeds in others. 22:51 Do not wait until some deed of greatness you may do 22:57 Do not wait to shed your light afar 23:01 To the many duties Ever near you now be true 23:05 Brighten your corner Where you are 23:09 Brighten your corner Where you are 23:13 Brighten your corner Where you are 23:17 Someone far from harbor You may guide across the bar 23:21 So brighten your corner Where you are 23:26 Just above are clouded skies That you may help to clear 23:30 Let not narrow Self your way debar 23:34 Though into one heart alone May fall your song of cheer 23:39 Brighten your corner Where you are 23:43 Brighten your corner Where you are 23:48 Brighten your corner Where you are 23:52 Someone far from harbor You may guide across the bar 23:56 So brighten your corner Where you are 24:01 Here for all your talent You may surely find a need 24:06 Here reflect the bright And Morning Star 24:10 Even from your humble hand The Bread of Life may feed 24:15 Brighten your corner Where you are 24:19 Brighten your corner Where you are 24:23 Brighten your corner Where you are 24:27 Someone far from harbor you may guide across the bar 24:31 So brighten your corner Where you are 24:36 Why don't you Brighten your corner 24:39 Where you are 24:41 Brighten your corner Where you are 24:45 You got to brighten your corner Where you are 24:49 Brighten your corner Where you are 24:54 Jesus needs each of us To shine where we are 24:57 So brighten... 24:59 Why don't you Brighten your corner 25:01 Where you are 25:04 Amen. Amen. 25:08 Thank you. 25:14 Joining me now is Radim Passer. 25:17 He is a real estate developer in the Czech Republic. 25:21 And he's also president of the Czech ASI chapter. 25:25 So you actually one of the many men 25:27 who report to Audrey. 25:30 Okay, just so we have that clear. 25:32 I'm so glad to have you here Radim. 25:35 And I know that your passion for sharing Christ 25:38 did not come easily 25:39 and without some significant sacrifice. 25:42 You actually came to know Jesus 25:44 and this passion for sharing Him through a tragedy. 25:48 Tell us about that? 25:49 Yes, my story. 25:52 I will start thinking 25:53 beautiful spring '98 that time, 25:58 me and my wife, we expected our first child. 26:02 We're five years married. 26:06 And I was already firstborn son in our family. 26:12 I have a successful business. 26:14 At that time we finished really huge project 26:17 with excellent tenants like Hewlett-Packard, 26:21 Microsoft, General Electric, and CMN, cetera. 26:25 But what was, for me, 26:27 the most important was the family. 26:31 It was the sense of my life. 26:33 I had that time no relationship with God. 26:36 I believe that probably in heaven, there is some God, 26:39 but I have no relationship with Him. 26:47 For me, the most important topic 26:48 that one day my son will overtake 26:51 from me the company. 26:54 I always believe if I will do 26:56 my business in professional and ethical way, 26:59 I should be successful. 27:01 So we've got a child, six weeks, 27:05 thought we have healthy child in our home. 27:09 But after six weeks, he's sick. 27:13 And it was for me very important moment. 27:18 When we left the hospital with my wife, 27:23 without our son, I was first time in my life 27:28 prepare to hear God. 27:31 And my wife told me that 27:33 God would like to tell us something. 27:36 And, but after a few days later, 27:40 we've got another bad news, 27:43 sickness of our son was fatal. 27:47 And we had no chance he will survive 27:51 because he had the cancer in his head. 27:55 And I believed that God can do miracle 27:59 but it didn't happened. 28:02 He was two months old, and we lost him. 28:05 And that time we started to study Bible. 28:11 I've started from First Book of Moses, 28:14 I've continued to Third Book of Moses, 28:16 and I was completely lost. 28:21 My parents are Roman Catholic. 28:24 My mother-in-law was Protestant, 28:27 my father-in-law was a scientist, evolutionist, 28:30 there was some spectrum of the opinions. 28:34 But I started to ask logical questions with my life. 28:41 Me and my wife, we knew we should be 28:46 part of any Christian fellowship. 28:50 I understood that Bible was written by prophets. 28:57 From Bible time, no other prophets 29:00 with some significant message for the vote. 29:05 One cousin of my wife, she was Seventh-day Adventist 29:09 and my wife told me, "I've got some information, 29:13 there was some ladies, some American lady." 29:17 She should be the prophet. 29:19 Some silent voice told me I should try it. 29:25 I've got the books of Ellen White, the pentalogy. 29:29 I've started to read it, and I started to 29:31 understand the Bible. 29:32 Amen. 29:34 Now I know that through that journey, 29:37 eventually you and your wife came to know Jesus Christ. 29:41 You were involved in the NET '98 series 29:44 and then eventually you were baptized 29:46 as a result of that journey. 29:49 I'm interested to know as you realized 29:51 and the scales fell from your eyes 29:53 and you learn to know Jesus, 29:55 what happened to your company along the way? 30:00 NET '98 was perfectly timing for us, 30:03 we converted... 30:06 We decided to be baptized in Seventh-day Adventist, 30:09 but we wanted to study Bible more. 30:11 So the baptism was planned for September '99. 30:15 But during we expected with my wife, 30:18 even the devil will do 30:21 everything to change our decision. 30:24 During summer '99 my very nearest colleagues 30:28 in my company try to stole my company. 30:31 So one year after losing our son, 30:35 I have no child, I have no company. 30:38 But we knew we shouldn't change our decision for Jesus. 30:43 So even though you lost your child 30:45 and you lost your company, you were steadfast 30:48 and you were going to follow Jesus and still be baptized? 30:51 Yes. 30:53 We were baptized in the mid of September '99 30:57 and end of September '99 30:59 my company was back. 31:04 So two months later... 31:06 Two weeks later. Two weeks later. 31:09 And Radim told me, he says, 31:10 "I can't explain all the details." 31:12 But two weeks later, my company was back. 31:15 Praise the Lord. 31:16 Now you look at your company 31:18 and family very differently now. 31:20 How is that? What is your company doing? 31:22 Yes. 31:25 We are constructing the largest business park 31:28 in Czech Republic. 31:29 And in Jesus Christ, I've got the best partner 31:33 who I can have in everything in my life. 31:39 Now what about for your family? 31:40 You and your wife are praying then for a child? 31:43 Yeah. 31:45 We had no problem to dedicate to God everything in our lives, 31:49 except one single topic. 31:51 We asked him to get another child 31:53 as soon as possible. 31:55 And it took two years. 31:58 After two years we came with my wife together 32:00 with to some conclusion, 32:02 we should dedicate also this topic to God. 32:06 And we better prepare in our hearts 32:09 even not to have 32:10 any other child during our lives. 32:14 When we decided for it during two months, 32:18 my wife was pregnant. 32:20 So you prayed and you decided that 32:22 even if God did not in His wisdom 32:25 or in His providence, 32:27 allow you to have children, you were going to go 32:29 by that decision. 32:30 Yes. But God honored your prayers. 32:32 And you have a son now? 32:34 Yes, our son is now five years old. 32:40 And how is your business going? 32:43 God really blessed our business, 32:46 everything going very well, and the company was rebuilt. 32:50 We have eight Seventh-day Adventists in the company. 32:53 We have about 40 people and we are doing 32:57 with our organization called Maranatha. 33:00 Also some project together with the church 33:03 for sharing the gospel and sharing the Christ 33:06 in the marketplace. 33:07 So sharing Christ in the marketplace 33:09 what you have planned 33:10 is in this massive business park, 33:13 you are planning on building a community center? 33:15 Yes. 33:17 There should be the community center, 33:20 church, and Adventist school. 33:24 So in the midst of all of this, you'll have a beacon of light 33:28 for Jesus Christ. 33:29 So as God has touched your heart and planted a seed, 33:32 you desire to plant the seeds in the hearts of others. 33:35 Yeah. Thank you very much, Radim. 33:37 Thank you. 33:47 Now joining me are Cary and Elene Rodgers. 33:50 They are the owners, producers, 33:53 directors, founders of Pathway to Peace, 33:56 which is a radio ministry based in Ypsilanti, Michigan. 34:00 And I'd like to ask... 34:01 You know, Cary, you're a little intimidating. 34:03 You're so tall. 34:04 Can I ask Elene to come and stand beside me? 34:07 Thank you. I feel so much better. 34:08 Okay. I wanted to ask you. 34:12 Now I understand you're doing really well in radio, 34:16 so you must have a whole lot of training 34:18 to make this happen. 34:19 Is that right, Cary? A whole lot of training. 34:22 The training of hard knocks, I went through 34:24 the School of the University of God, 34:27 God trained me how to do everything 34:28 that we're doing now. 34:30 So what were you trained to do before 34:31 or how did your life start? 34:33 Well, basically our ministry started, 34:35 it started out a tragedy. 34:37 For many years when my wife and I got married, 34:40 we have many miscarriages, and in 2000, 34:44 matter of fact, in 2001, we had a stillbirth. 34:48 And during that time, I was a nominal Christian. 34:50 I went to church. I went to work. 34:53 I was in computers. My wife was in real estate. 34:55 But when this happened, it totally changed 34:58 my way of thinking and began to think about life, 35:01 I began to think about why we're here. 35:04 And Jesus Christ came to this earth to save sinners. 35:08 And that's the reason why I'm here. 35:10 It says, do the works of Christ, 35:12 not just to go to church and just go to work 35:14 and make money. 35:16 So you decided that you were going to do 35:17 something in radio. 35:19 And, Elene, tell me, what were you going to do, 35:21 this little small project that you were going to do 35:24 in the starting of radio? 35:26 Exactly. 35:27 We were thankful of God taking us 35:28 through this particular tragedy. 35:31 And just bringing us through, 35:32 we were starting to do a lot better. 35:34 And we wanted to say thank you to God. 35:35 So we said, "We'll give the Lord a thank you offering. 35:37 We'll do 10 radio programs." 35:39 And that's all we intended to do. 35:42 But something happened? What happened, Cary? 35:43 Well, let me tell you what happened. 35:45 She came to me with an idea doing a radio broadcast. 35:47 And it was a good idea 35:49 because during that time of tragedy, 35:51 she was writing a lot. 35:52 And I said, "Well, why don't you go ahead 35:53 and find out how much it will cost to get airtime 35:57 and things like that." 35:58 And she did that, 36:00 and she wanted to do hour of time. 36:01 And I was like, "Whole hour? That's a lot of time." 36:02 But okay, go ahead and get the information." 36:04 So she went ahead and got the information 36:07 and came back with me and told me that 36:09 it's gonna cost about $700 per month. 36:12 But I was like, "Well, that's not gonna hurt too much 36:14 because I got a job, I'm doing okay, 36:16 my wife's in real estate, we can do this." 36:18 Anyway, we decided do on Saturday afternoon, 36:21 Sabbath afternoon. 36:22 So anyway, we get to... 36:24 We actually signed a contract on Monday. 36:27 The Lord gave us the name of the program 36:29 Pathway to Peace because Jesus is our peace. 36:32 And people are looking for peace. 36:34 So we decided to do testimony 36:35 at the beginning of the program, 36:37 little bit of music, and then she was gonna do 36:39 words of inspiration, 36:40 and I just decided to do Bible study, 36:43 and I didn't know what I was doing. 36:44 But I said, "Okay, I'm not a priest, 36:46 but I'm gonna do a Bible study." 36:47 But anyway, we went to the station on a Monday, 36:50 sign the contract. 36:52 On Tuesday, we came back to the station 36:54 and this was a station in Charlotte, North Carolina, 36:56 which we're doing it live, came back on Tuesday, 36:59 I did a promo that we're gonna start this 37:01 new live radio broadcast. 37:04 And on Wednesday, I get to work. 37:06 And my boss comes in, and he says, 37:08 "You know what, Cary, I'm gonna have to lay you off. 37:12 Matter of fact, I'm not gonna have to lay just you off. 37:16 I'm laid off, we all laid off. 37:17 The company has crashed." 37:19 So anyway, I'm like, "Okay, the company is crashed." 37:22 But then when I get home reality starts to sink in. 37:25 I said, "Wait a minute, we just signed a contract to do 37:29 all these radio broadcasts at least 10 of them. 37:31 And I don't have a job anymore." 37:33 Matter of fact, when I left that job, 37:35 they didn't pay me. 37:37 Matter of fact, they only paid me $500 37:38 that was about it. 37:39 And I said, "Well, we don't have any more money." 37:41 But anyway, I was at peace because before, 37:46 a little before we started the radio broadcast, 37:48 the Lord was calling me to do full-time ministry. 37:51 And it was so strong because remember, 37:53 He changed my way of thinking and this call was so strong 37:56 because I remember one day I was driving home from work 37:59 and the Lord told me that 38:00 I was groping for nothing, that I did everything. 38:03 I got it, I got it. I got an education. 38:05 I got a job, I got a house, and a car. 38:07 And the Lord said, "What's next?" 38:09 I said, "Guess retirement, Lord." 38:10 He said, "What's after that?" 38:11 I said, "I guess death, Lord." 38:13 And then He said, "What did you do for Me?" 38:15 So I began to think about my life. 38:18 And so anyway, he was calling me 38:21 for full-time ministry. 38:23 So when He called you to full-time ministry, 38:25 you decided, all right, so then this must be a door, 38:28 we're gonna walk down this pathway, 38:30 and see what we can do with these radio program. 38:34 So you're gonna do the radio programs 38:36 and then what? 38:37 The Lord just kept saying, "Continue to go forward." 38:40 And that's what He's continued to say. 38:41 Even when we did, 38:43 after we finished the first 10 programs. 38:44 We still didn't know how long the Lord 38:46 will continue to say continue to go forward. 38:49 But even to this day, and that's been over 4 years, 38:51 actually about 4.5 years now, 38:53 God has continued to say go forward. 38:55 And that's what we continue to do. 38:56 So how many stations 38:58 or where is Pathway to Peace aired, Cary? 39:00 Well, basically, again Pathway to Peace 39:02 is right now is Bible study. 39:04 That's all we do is Bible study. 39:06 And right now the Lord has taken us 39:07 from one station in Charlotte, North Carolina 39:09 where we just planned to do 10 programs. 39:12 Now we're in about 22 different stations. 39:14 Amen. And the Lord is truly blessed. 39:16 And we just go station by station and expand. 39:20 Now I would imagine, even though you lost your job, 39:24 you have all these stations now, 39:25 so you must have a pretty hefty bank account 39:27 to fund this radio station. 39:29 Elene, you're laughing. 39:32 I remember coming to our first ASI Convention in Columbus, 39:35 Ohio, and I remember hearing CD Brooks 39:37 actually do a sermon entitled The Blessed Underwriter. 39:40 And the basic essence of his sermon was that 39:43 God is the blessed underwriter. 39:45 He always underwrites His cause. 39:47 And that's been our testimony throughout the four years that 39:50 God continues to underwrite His cause. 39:52 If He says to do it, 39:54 He will provide the means to do it. 39:55 We are by no means very wealthy and... 40:00 By any stretch, but God is faithful. 40:01 But do have a rich Father though. 40:02 Yes, you have a rich Father. I do. 40:05 The Heavenly Father. Yeah. 40:06 So... Oh, okay. Got it. 40:08 We all have a rich heavenly Father. 40:09 But He only gives me the money when I need it. 40:11 That's it. Okay, so explain it. 40:12 He only gives you the money when you need it. 40:14 So every single month is a faith venture 40:18 because we basically what we do with the 22 stations, 40:20 we are on a few Adventist stations, 40:22 but most of our stations are non-Adventist, 40:25 so we had to pay for airtime in different cities. 40:28 So the expenses really gotten up there 40:31 into thousands of dollars, 40:33 but every single month, I can tell you 40:35 when we need it, God provides 40:37 and He's done that for 4.5 years. 40:39 So nobody can tell me that God is a provider. 40:42 He's our Jehovah-jireh. 40:43 So as He plants the seed if you accept it 40:46 and you move forward, He opens the door. 40:48 Just like He did with the children of Israel, 40:50 it's the same God. 40:51 And I know that God has done it for me. 40:53 And this is ASI, I'm sure He's done it 40:54 for other members as well. 40:55 It's the same God and He continues to do 40:57 His bidding. 40:58 Once you step into the water... 41:00 You watched the Red Sea where the waters open. 41:02 Oh yeah, they'll open up apart, 41:04 and you will be able to go forward. 41:06 Well, Elene, tell me now has Pathway to Peace 41:08 made a difference? 41:09 Do you have any stories that you could share 41:10 where the Bible studies have reached somebody's heart? 41:13 Yes, we do. 41:14 Actually, just last week, we heard from... 41:17 Because we're on, like he said, 41:19 several stations not just Adventist, 41:21 we're on an R&B station where that plays R&B music, 41:24 as well as gospel music. 41:26 And the owner of the station actually told us last week that 41:30 they've gotten so many calls or requests for our program 41:33 that he actually plays it more times 41:36 than we are actually paying for. 41:37 We had no additional costs, he actually plays it, 41:40 several other times during the week. 41:42 We're on a southern gospel station 41:43 that's in Chattanooga, Tennessee, 41:45 actually we signed up to be on a network 41:47 in that area. 41:48 And so we were already airing in Chattanooga, 41:50 an owner of another station 41:52 in Chattanooga heard the program, 41:54 and she called us, and she said, 41:55 "I want your program on our station." 41:58 And basically she gave us the airtime for 42:02 so little of a cost that we couldn't say no. 42:05 So we are on their station as well. 42:08 This week as a matter of fact, 42:10 we actually got a letter from an inmate 42:11 or a person that's in prison in South Carolina, 42:14 saying how he was blessed by listening to the program. 42:17 And he gave us $50. 42:19 In fact, it was a state check 42:20 because they don't even have funds. 42:22 But he was blessed by the program, 42:23 and he thought that 42:25 he would do something to contribute. 42:26 We've had... 42:28 I remember talking to someone or calling someone 42:31 because I was visiting my mom in North Carolina, 42:33 and I was watching 3ABN and there was someone on 3ABN 42:37 from that area. 42:38 And I said, "I'll call her up and tell her that 42:39 there's another Adventist ministry in the area." 42:43 So I called her up to tell her about our ministry, 42:47 and she says, "I've heard your voice before." 42:49 And I said, "Really?" She said, "Pathway to Peace." 42:52 And I said, "Yeah, that's our program." 42:54 She said, "I've been listening 42:55 to your program for such a long time, 42:58 and it has blessed our marriage." 43:01 So the Lord has many... 43:02 And even last week, one more... 43:04 One more? We had someone. 43:06 We just started in Detroit. Detroit, Michigan. 43:09 And we had someone from Detroit, 43:11 a young man who actually called 43:13 and he said that he was really blessed. 43:16 He said, in fact, "I want all of your CDs, 43:19 I want all the copies of the programs you've done." 43:21 I said, "Sir, that's been over 100 programs." 43:23 He said, "I want all of them. I've just really been blessed. 43:25 I don't call stations normally. But the Lord is really blessed. 43:29 And I've been enjoying your program. 43:30 In fact, I wake up on Sunday mornings early, 43:33 just to listen to the program." 43:35 So God is blessing. 43:37 And our purpose is not just to get the results 43:40 because sometimes you hear the positive results, 43:42 but sometimes there may be lack thunder, 43:44 you don't hear anything, 43:45 but the call is to still go forward. 43:47 And don't be discouraged if you don't 43:49 because our role is just to sow the seed 43:51 and let God do the rest. 43:53 Well, that's the perfect ending. 43:54 And we're out of time. 43:55 Cary and Elene, thank you so much 43:57 for letting God use you. 43:58 Thank you. 44:05 Well, this is Barry Mosier. 44:07 Barry Mosier, he's a certified public accountant 44:10 by trade but 16 years ago, 44:12 he actually moved his family to Tanzania in West Africa, 44:16 excuse me, in East Africa to volunteer as a missionary 44:19 and for him to be the treasurer at Kibidula Farms. 44:23 Barry, what is this? 44:25 Did you pick up a piece of PVC piping on your way in? 44:28 Well, let me get this out and show it to you, Debbie. 44:30 Okay. 44:52 Well, that looks familiar. 44:55 So, Debbie, this is one of the ASI picture rolls 44:57 that I think about seven years ago 44:59 was one of the major funding projects of ASI. 45:03 And it's made on waterproof paper, 45:06 non tear paper, high quality, 45:09 and then put into these PVC tubes to make them... 45:13 With a screw on lid to make it watertight. 45:16 So very, very durable and very useful. 45:19 Well, this is really interesting. 45:20 So it sounds like you probably use this tool 45:24 there at Kibidula? 45:27 Yeah. 45:28 In the last six years, since we've been in Tanzania, 45:31 we've shipped 5,300 of these picture rolls 45:35 over to Tanzania and other parts of East Africa 45:39 and distributed them to, well, I guess it'd be churches, 45:45 global pioneers, and lay pastors. 45:47 Well, and I also know that over 125,000 picture rolls, 45:52 and probably more than have been printed 45:53 have actually gone in other countries 45:54 around the world. 45:56 But let me ask you this. 45:57 I'm just curious to know if they're really effective. 46:00 Is there really a need for these? 46:03 How well they been received, for instance, in Africa? 46:06 Okay. 46:07 Well, let me just start by saying I can remember 46:08 when I first got to Tanzania 46:12 and going into the home 46:17 of the headman of our village 46:18 and glued to his walls were newspapers. 46:24 And then I can remember going on to visit churches 46:26 and find our own churches and finding the only thing 46:31 of color on the walls was outdated, 46:35 promotional posters from years back 46:38 that were still hanging on the wall 46:40 just because it added some kind of color. 46:42 And so it told me 46:44 how much people really craved color, pictures, 46:48 anything to brighten up the walls of the church 46:51 or to use in teaching materials. 46:54 Well, can you share with us some of the pictures 46:56 that you have that show 46:57 how the picture rolls have been used? 47:00 Yes, I have some pictures going up now. 47:03 And when we give our lay evangelism school, 47:09 training school graduates a picture roll, 47:12 it becomes very quickly a very, 47:14 very prized possession in their work 47:16 as they go out to un-entered areas. 47:20 And you can see here, this man going out through mud 47:24 and through rain, and any kind of conditions 47:28 because these things are so durable, 47:30 and they will never deteriorate. 47:32 Here, Joshua and his wife are going out to a remote area, 47:37 and they've got their literature boxes 47:40 balanced on their head, and their trusty picture roll 47:44 underneath their arm. 47:47 Sabbath schools in Tanzania are just... 47:51 You'll notice this one is rather dark, 47:53 and that's pretty universal. 47:54 They're dark, and they all have a similar quality, 47:57 basically no teaching materials 47:59 and nothing to beautify the classroom. 48:02 But my wife goes out and just about 48:05 every Sabbath takes her picture roll 48:07 and teaches in Sabbath school 48:08 when we go to do evangelistic effort. 48:10 She takes it along for teaching purposes. 48:12 They're very useful. 48:15 And, of course, not everyone has 48:17 the privilege of having a Sabbath School room to be in. 48:20 In this picture, you'll see one of our global pioneers 48:23 in an un-entered area. 48:26 And I want you to notice, this picture, 48:29 how the children are just riveted 48:31 to that picture roll and just crowded around 48:34 to catch the story. 48:35 And I can promise you they will remember that story. 48:40 I have to tell you a story, Debbie. 48:43 A couple of years ago, my wife took 48:46 an AIDS orphan into our home to care for 48:51 and that baby lived with us for about 10 months 48:55 before she died in my wife's arms one morning. 48:59 It was a very sad day. 49:01 And through her grief and through her tears, 49:05 she wanted the villagers to somehow get a glimpse 49:11 of some hope and what is heaven really like. 49:15 And I can remember her that day taking her picture roll 49:18 along to Happy's funeral to show the villagers 49:22 what heaven might be like. 49:25 So she even used the picture rolls 49:26 in a funeral to give some hope? 49:28 Yes. 49:29 You know, let me just ask you another question. 49:31 Is there still a need for picture rolls 49:33 even though there have been thousands distributed? 49:36 Well, they really are. 49:38 I know I can speak most for East Africa 49:40 because that's where I am. 49:41 But the need is great. 49:43 There are many countries that have not yet received 49:45 any picture rolls. 49:46 And, you know, they are so durable. 49:48 I know that these picture rolls will be in service 49:52 until Jesus comes and where you have 49:56 in the remote villages 49:57 where people do not have Bibles, 50:00 many of them are not able to read, you know, 50:04 these tools are so useful in having the Bible 50:08 come to life for them. 50:09 Well, that's wonderful, Barry, isn't it a wonderful blessing 50:12 to note that picture rolls actually is a recipient 50:15 of our offering that we anticipate for this weekend. 50:19 So we hope that we can continue to plant more seeds 50:22 through picture rolls in the future. 50:24 Amen. Thank you so much, Debbie. 50:25 Thanks ASI. Amen. 50:46 Somebody's down To their last dime 50:50 Somebody's running out of time 50:55 Not too far from here 50:57 Somebody's got Nowhere else to go 51:01 Somebody needs a little hope 51:06 Not too far from here 51:12 And I may not know their name 51:16 But I'm praying just the same 51:20 That You'll use me, Lord 51:22 To wipe away the tears 51:27 'Cause somebody's crying, Lord 51:30 Not too far from here 51:33 Somebody's troubled And confused 51:37 Somebody's got Nothing left to lose 51:42 Not too far from here 51:45 Somebody's forgotten How to trust 51:49 Somebody's dying for love 51:54 Not too far from here 51:59 It may be a stranger's face 52:03 But I'm praying for Your grace 52:07 To move in me 52:10 And take away the fear 52:14 'Cause somebody's hurting, Lord 52:17 Not too far from here 52:23 Help me, Lord, Not to turn away from pain 52:31 Help me not to rest, 52:33 while those around me weep 52:39 Give me Your strength And compassion 52:46 When somebody finds The road of life too steep 53:06 Now I'm letting down my guard 53:10 And I'm opening my heart 53:14 Let me speak Your love 53:16 To every needful ear 53:21 'Cause Jesus is waiting 53:25 Not too far from here 53:35 'Cause Jesus is waiting 53:38 Not too far from here 53:53 Not too far from here 54:04 Amen. 54:25 Just the time I feel 54:30 That I've been caught 54:33 In the mire of self 54:37 And just the time I feel 54:42 My mind's been bought 54:45 By worldly wealth 54:49 That's when the breeze begins To blow 54:55 I know The Spirit's ca? 55:01 And all my worldly wanderings 55:07 Just melt into His love 55:14 Oh, I want to know You more 55:18 Deep within my soul I want to know You 55:23 Oh, I want to know You 55:26 To feel Your heart And know Your mind 55:30 Looking in Your eyes Stirs up within me 55:35 Cries that says I want to know You 55:42 Oh, I want to know You more 55:53 And when my daily deeds 55:58 Ordinarily lose life and song 56:05 My heart begins to bleed 56:10 Sensitivity to Him is gone 56:17 I've run the race But I've set my own pace 56:23 And face a shattered soul 56:29 Now the gentle arms of Jesus 56:35 Warms my hunger to be whole 56:42 Oh, I want to know You more 56:47 Deep within my soul I want to know You 56:51 Oh, I want to know You 56:54 To feel you heart And know Your mind 56:59 Looking in Your eyes Stirs up within me 57:04 Cries that says I want to know You 57:10 Oh, I want to know You 57:13 And I would give My final breathe 57:18 To know You in Your death And resurrection 57:23 Oh, I want to know You more 57:30 Oh, I want to know You To know You more 57:42 Oh, I want to know You more |
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