We are Forever His
from Joshua, Texas.
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And so we are so glad to
be with you this evening.
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In Matthew, it says that
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God sees every
sparrow that falls.
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And ASI is God's hand
to help the human sparrows
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that fall.
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And I'm sure if
they were here tonight,
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they would say thank you.
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I sing because I'm happy
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I sing because I'm free
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For His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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Why should I feel discouraged
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Why should the shadows come
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Why should my heart be lonely
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And long for heaven and home
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When Jesus is my portion
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My constant Friend is He
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His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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I sing because I'm happy
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I sing because I'm free
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For His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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Let not your heart be troubled
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His tender words I hear
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And resting on His goodness
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I lose my doubts and fears
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Though by the path He leadeth
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But one step I may see
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His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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Whenever I am tempted
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Whenever clouds arise
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When songs give place To sighing
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When hope within me dies
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I draw the closer to Him
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From care He sets me free
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His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He watches me
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I sing because I'm happy
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I sing because I'm free
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For His eye is on the sparrow
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And I know He
watches I know He watches
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I know He watches me
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He watches me
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We've come to another time
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when we can
share testimonies about
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how God has used us.
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And interestingly
enough, all of my MIAs,
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my members in
action, reflect sowing seeds,
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planting seeds.
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When you come to
ASI, you discover that
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if a seed gets
planted in your heart,
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then you can share with others
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or you may go out and
plant seeds in others.
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With me is Audrey Balderstone.
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She's the
president of ASI Europe.
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And, Audrey, you had some
seeds planted in your heart.
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But first, tell
me, what do you do
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when you're not
working with ASI?
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Well, I'm supposed
to be helping my husband
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who has a landscape
garden company in his business,
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but with working with
the British chapter of ASI
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and with ASI Europe,
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I'm afraid my
husband doesn't get too much
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for looking these days.
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Now ASI Europe has
some interesting challenges
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that are different from
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what we
experience here in America.
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Tell us a little bit about that?
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Well, there are 10
chapters in ASI Europe.
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And, of course, that
means 10 different languages
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and different currencies,
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and all of the
chapter presidents,
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except one are male.
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They all have their
own cultures and agenda.
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So it's very
challenging, very interesting
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and very exciting
working with them.
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Now last year, you
attended the ASI Convention
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in Sacramento
for the first time.
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And you came for
a specific purpose.
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What did you take
away from that experience?
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Well, we were going to
have our ASI Convention
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in July this year.
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We have ours every
two or every three years.
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And I wanted to see
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what a big ASI
Convention was like.
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I took away from it
the excitement and thrill
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of hearing about
members in action.
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And I wanted to
take back to Europe that
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same burning desire to
share Christ in the marketplace,
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not just sharing Him
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but that burning
desire to share Him,
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and I wanted to communicate
that with our members as well.
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So when you took back
all of this inspiration,
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what kind of impact
did it have on ASI Europe?
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Well, I tried to enthuse
the other chapter presidents
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and get them to
encourage their members to come
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to the convention and
to share the experience.
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Now we have been used to having
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around 100
members at our convention.
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In Barcelona, three years ago,
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we had a
membership of about 192.
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Our membership has
grown since then to 452.
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But we were expecting with...
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Yeah, we were very
thrilled about that.
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But with the
convention being in England,
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very expensive, people
had to travel long distances.
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This is channel in between
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there all the
language difficulties,
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we were
expecting maybe 120, 150.
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In the event, we had 208 people,
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so something must
have happened somewhere.
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So some
inspiration stuck somewhere?
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Somewhere. I hope so.
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Well, now tell me some
other remarkable things
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happened during that convention?
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Well, we had the great privilege
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of having Dwight
Nelson as our speaker,
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and from his keynote
address that very first night
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he really set the tone
for the whole convention.
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His message was just wonderful.
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And he talked about Paul
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and the Macedonian
matrix and how God closed doors
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so that He was pushing
Paul towards the open doors
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that he had ready for him.
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And he said,
it's the same with us.
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God is pushing us
towards these open doors.
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And he had a phrase that night
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that all night long
kept ringing my head,
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every time I woke
up during the night,
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it was just do it, just do it.
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And it was that urgency that
we must just get out and do it,
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share Christ.
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Now in addition to that urgency,
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there's just feeling that,
that burning that just do it
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to tell them now
kind of a phrase...
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Yes.
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Something unexpected
happened at your convention?
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On the Sabbath morning
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we were to take up the offering,
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and we had presented the
projects the night before.
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I should tell you
that three years ago
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in Barcelona our
offering amounted to about
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$30,000, A 24,000.
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Now I know that's the
absolute peanuts here,
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and you would be amazed at that.
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But for us, it was
quite a good offering
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because all our chapters
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have their own
offerings as well.
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That morning, Bernard Beringuet,
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who is the vice
president for evangelism,
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and I presented the projects
again to a very packed church.
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And we asked for a
faith offering of A 100,000.
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For nights before
I'd been trying to do
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the math in my head.
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I knew how many
people were coming.
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I knew that many of
them were struggling,
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really struggling
in their businesses.
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And we don't have
the big businessmen,
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we have two or
three, but we don't have
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the big
businessmen that you're having.
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The Sabbath morning
service, the atmosphere there,
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I just could not describe to it.
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We could feel the Holy Spirit
through every aspect of it.
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And at the end of the service,
when the announcement came
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of what the offering was,
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it was 148,000 in that morning.
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I tell you...
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God had really done
over and above anything
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we could ask or think.
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And I felt ashamed that
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my faith had not
been great enough.
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So you came here,
you had a seed planted...
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Yeah.
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It bloomed in ASI
Europe, beyond your expectation.
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And now you're going to be
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leading for another three years.
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Praise the Lord.
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Thank you very much, Audrey,
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for sharing how God
is working in ASI Europe
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and working with
you to plant seeds.
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And during these next few years,
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we plan to have at
least five more chapters...
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Five more
chapters? More seeds as well.
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Okay. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
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Our next
interview, our next members
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in action is a family affair.
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And it's always
interesting to me
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to see how this
all works together.
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Now just come close, I
know you guys are family,
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but I'm sure you're
not scared of each other.
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And I just
wanna ask, I know that
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you're in the seed
sowing business as well.
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Janice, let me
ask you what are these
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seed sowing activities
that you're involved with?
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Actually our business
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is actually a
seed sowing business.
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We have a family business
called Sunizona Family Farms,
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and we grow
gourmet, heirloom tomatoes,
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a huge variety of them.
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And also heirloom
salad greens and micro greens
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and ship them to very
upscale restaurants, resorts.
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But I have this
feeling that's not
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what you wanted to know, right?
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Right. Okay.
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You know, God has
blessed us so much that
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we just really have
felt compelled to share
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what He has blessed us with.
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And one of the things that
we have just so much enjoyed
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sharing is having
vegetarian cooking seminars,
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and health classes
in our little community,
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and it's a small community.
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And then from that it's kind
of spawned into Bible studies
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and other types of evangelism,
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but the health has
really been a focal point.
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Now so you've done
that, you said door to door
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and some variety
of different things.
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Well, let me, I'm gonna
turn to the young people
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and get the real word from
them if that's okay with you.
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Okay, Kymberlee, let me ask you,
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what has the door to
door experiences been like?
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Can you tell me
of any experiences?
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Have you enjoyed
those? Oh, it's been amazing.
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I mean, we knew
when we first started
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doing evangelism, we
knew nothing about it
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because we had
never done it before.
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We had never
been involved in it.
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And it was amazing
to see how God worked.
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I think one of the most
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wonderful experiences was
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when we had this last year,
we did the Appearing survey.
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We had watched
the Appearing videos,
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DVDs by Shawn Boonstra.
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And it was just a
real inspiration to us.
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And so we thought,
well, we wanna do something
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that will give us a chance
to reach out to the people
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in our
community with the message
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that he had shared.
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And so we wrote a little
survey about the Appearing DVD
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and what like
questions, you know,
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about the end of time and stuff.
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And we went out
and knocked on doors,
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asked the survey to the people.
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And we had a
phenomenal response.
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We gave 50 of them
out to different guys
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because that's all we ordered.
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And we watched...
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We watched, we came back
like a couple weeks later
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and talked to the people
and there was this one family
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we went to there.
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It was a really neat experience.
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We talked to them afterwards.
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And they told us
that they had watched
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the DVD through
like three or four times,
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and they had stopped at
each one of the Bible verses,
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had written them
down, had checked them up,
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looked them up, made
sure it was all right.
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And they told us that, you know,
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they had always
heard all this stuff,
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but they never
knew if it was true,
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and they had never
really heard this stuff
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straight from the Bible,
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and so they were just so amazed
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at what the Bible had
to say about these things.
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So you go around doing
these things, all of you,
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is that because your
parents drag you along?
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No, it's kind of
the opposite, actually.
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But we...
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So you drag them
along. Okay, that's good.
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That's good. I'll take that.
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Kind of, I mean, like
they really encourage us,
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but they're really busy,
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so they can't
always come out with us.
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So we usually go
out on our own and,
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you know, when we
first started, we thought,
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"Oh, yeah, this is
gonna be really great."
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You know, you hear
all these stories about
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people getting baptized
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and joining the
church and everything.
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And we were like, "Oh, yeah,
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this is gonna be
really awesome, you know?"
00:19:58.36\00:19:59.69
And so we went out
and it was, you know,
00:19:59.73\00:20:02.63
we didn't know what to expect.
00:20:02.66\00:20:04.00
But when we
started, things that happened
00:20:04.03\00:20:06.03
exactly the way we had
planned and exactly the way
00:20:06.07\00:20:08.47
we had anticipated it to happen,
00:20:08.50\00:20:10.81
and we didn't see
people getting baptized,
00:20:10.84\00:20:12.81
you know, like,
as soon as we started
00:20:12.84\00:20:14.21
handing them lessons
00:20:14.24\00:20:15.78
for the Bible
studies and whatever.
00:20:15.81\00:20:17.15
And so I think the promise
that we've had for ourselves,
00:20:17.18\00:20:20.78
as we've been
doing this has been...
00:20:20.82\00:20:23.79
Paul talks in Corinthians about
00:20:23.82\00:20:25.25
how God didn't
send him to baptize.
00:20:25.29\00:20:28.49
But he sent him
to preach the gospel.
00:20:28.52\00:20:30.53
And that's the
promise that we've carried
00:20:30.56\00:20:32.59
because as
farmers, we've seen how
00:20:32.63\00:20:34.16
when you plant a seed,
the results are instantaneous.
00:20:34.20\00:20:37.00
You don't instantly see
the fruit coming off of it.
00:20:37.03\00:20:40.07
But God, in His own
time and way is gonna bring
00:20:40.10\00:20:43.30
about a harvest even though
it may not be when we see it.
00:20:43.34\00:20:46.27
It may not be
something that we experienced,
00:20:46.31\00:20:48.28
but it's going to
happen. Excellent, excellent.
00:20:48.31\00:20:51.85
Aimee, tell me a little bit
00:20:51.88\00:20:53.21
where did all this
inspiration come from?
00:20:53.25\00:20:55.72
I mean, growing
up you are passionate
00:20:55.75\00:20:58.82
about sharing Christ?
00:20:58.85\00:21:00.19
Where did that happen? ASI.
00:21:00.22\00:21:01.96
ASI?
00:21:01.99\00:21:03.32
All that happened
to you here at ASI?
00:21:03.36\00:21:04.69
How did that happen?
00:21:04.73\00:21:06.06
Because like you see
all the people and you hear
00:21:06.09\00:21:07.96
what they are
doing in their community
00:21:08.00\00:21:09.90
and you go to the booth
and you see what you can do.
00:21:09.93\00:21:12.70
And that's just
really inspired me
00:21:12.73\00:21:14.80
on what I can
do in my community.
00:21:14.84\00:21:16.87
Is this true, Byron?
00:21:16.91\00:21:18.27
I mean, this just
sound like it's right
00:21:18.31\00:21:19.77
or did you
culture on this question?
00:21:19.81\00:21:22.44
Well, I think that it
would be fair to say that
00:21:22.48\00:21:26.61
we would be a very ordinary,
00:21:26.65\00:21:30.49
pew sitting
family if it hadn't been
00:21:30.52\00:21:33.99
for coming here to
ASI year after year.
00:21:34.02\00:21:37.33
And I think, like,
00:21:37.36\00:21:38.69
especially working
with the young people,
00:21:38.73\00:21:41.13
these guys go to the
door and do canvassing
00:21:41.16\00:21:45.43
after having
just a day of training
00:21:45.47\00:21:47.44
or even an
evening of training here
00:21:47.47\00:21:49.00
in the youth program, and I say,
00:21:49.04\00:21:51.14
"Wow, I couldn't do
it if I spent two years."
00:21:51.17\00:21:54.28
And so it
definitely remove the barriers
00:21:54.31\00:21:58.95
and the obstacles
and you say, "Why not?
00:21:58.98\00:22:00.45
Yeah, we can." Excellent.
00:22:00.48\00:22:02.58
Now, Charles, I'm gonna give you
00:22:02.62\00:22:03.95
the last word
because I would imagine
00:22:03.99\00:22:05.32
with three
sisters, one of your sisters
00:22:05.35\00:22:06.96
isn't here tonight and your mom,
00:22:06.99\00:22:09.12
you and your dad
often feel outnumbered.
00:22:09.16\00:22:10.83
So let me give
you the last word.
00:22:10.86\00:22:12.39
And is this indeed true?
Would you agree with that?
00:22:12.43\00:22:14.96
Would you choose
any other activities
00:22:15.00\00:22:16.33
for your family
to be involved with?
00:22:16.36\00:22:18.73
Not really because of the
fact that I just love doing it.
00:22:18.77\00:22:21.20
When I go and do the
door knocking on doors
00:22:21.24\00:22:24.61
and giving Bible studies,
00:22:24.64\00:22:25.97
it just encourages me even more.
00:22:26.01\00:22:28.44
And so it's not just
something that you kind of
00:22:28.48\00:22:29.94
just slog away doing.
00:22:29.98\00:22:31.31
It's just something that
encourages more and more,
00:22:31.35\00:22:32.91
and I just get more excited
about it, the more I do it.
00:22:32.95\00:22:34.68
Excellent.
00:22:34.72\00:22:36.05
Well, and the
result of planting seeds
00:22:36.08\00:22:38.55
actually comes back and
plants a seed in your heart.
00:22:38.59\00:22:41.02
And I believe you have a song
00:22:41.06\00:22:42.96
that actually speaks
to the challenge of us
00:22:42.99\00:22:44.73
meeting that need to be
able to plant seeds in others.
00:22:44.76\00:22:47.20
Do not wait until some
deed of greatness you may do
00:22:51.77\00:22:57.27
Do not wait to
shed your light afar
00:22:57.31\00:23:00.98
To the many duties
Ever near you now be true
00:23:01.01\00:23:05.28
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:05.31\00:23:09.48
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:09.52\00:23:13.39
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:13.42\00:23:17.63
Someone far from harbor
You may guide across the bar
00:23:17.66\00:23:21.50
So brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:21.53\00:23:26.17
Just above are clouded
skies That you may help to clear
00:23:26.20\00:23:30.64
Let not narrow
Self your way debar
00:23:30.67\00:23:34.58
Though into one heart alone
May fall your song of cheer
00:23:34.61\00:23:39.35
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:39.38\00:23:43.82
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:43.85\00:23:48.06
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:48.09\00:23:52.39
Someone far from harbor
You may guide across the bar
00:23:52.43\00:23:56.40
So brighten your
corner Where you are
00:23:56.43\00:24:01.24
Here for all your talent
You may surely find a need
00:24:01.27\00:24:06.84
Here reflect the
bright And Morning Star
00:24:06.88\00:24:10.58
Even from your humble
hand The Bread of Life may feed
00:24:10.61\00:24:15.08
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:24:15.12\00:24:19.32
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:24:19.35\00:24:23.53
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:24:23.56\00:24:27.70
Someone far from harbor
you may guide across the bar
00:24:27.73\00:24:31.57
So brighten your
corner Where you are
00:24:31.60\00:24:36.07
Why don't you
Brighten your corner
00:24:36.10\00:24:39.11
Where you are
00:24:39.14\00:24:41.14
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:24:41.18\00:24:45.01
You got to brighten
your corner Where you are
00:24:45.05\00:24:49.92
Brighten your
corner Where you are
00:24:49.95\00:24:54.16
Jesus needs each of
us To shine where we are
00:24:54.19\00:24:57.89
So brighten...
00:24:57.93\00:24:59.26
Why don't you
Brighten your corner
00:24:59.29\00:25:01.70
Where you are
00:25:01.73\00:25:04.17
Amen. Amen.
00:25:04.20\00:25:07.97
Thank you.
00:25:08.00\00:25:09.34
Joining me now is Radim Passer.
00:25:14.84\00:25:17.15
He is a real estate
developer in the Czech Republic.
00:25:17.18\00:25:21.02
And he's also president
of the Czech ASI chapter.
00:25:21.05\00:25:25.22
So you actually
one of the many men
00:25:25.25\00:25:27.52
who report to Audrey.
00:25:27.56\00:25:30.13
Okay, just so
we have that clear.
00:25:30.16\00:25:32.69
I'm so glad to
have you here Radim.
00:25:32.73\00:25:35.06
And I know that your
passion for sharing Christ
00:25:35.10\00:25:38.47
did not come easily
00:25:38.50\00:25:39.87
and without some
significant sacrifice.
00:25:39.90\00:25:42.50
You actually came to know Jesus
00:25:42.54\00:25:44.64
and this passion for
sharing Him through a tragedy.
00:25:44.67\00:25:48.24
Tell us about that?
00:25:48.28\00:25:49.94
Yes, my story.
00:25:49.98\00:25:52.18
I will start thinking
00:25:52.21\00:25:53.55
beautiful spring '98 that time,
00:25:53.58\00:25:58.75
me and my wife, we
expected our first child.
00:25:58.79\00:26:02.02
We're five years married.
00:26:02.06\00:26:06.09
And I was already
firstborn son in our family.
00:26:06.13\00:26:12.10
I have a successful business.
00:26:12.13\00:26:14.04
At that time we
finished really huge project
00:26:14.07\00:26:17.11
with excellent
tenants like Hewlett-Packard,
00:26:17.14\00:26:21.04
Microsoft, General
Electric, and CMN, cetera.
00:26:21.08\00:26:25.55
But what was, for me,
00:26:25.58\00:26:27.95
the most
important was the family.
00:26:27.98\00:26:31.29
It was the sense of my life.
00:26:31.32\00:26:33.82
I had that time no
relationship with God.
00:26:33.86\00:26:36.79
I believe that probably
in heaven, there is some God,
00:26:36.83\00:26:39.76
but I have no
relationship with Him.
00:26:39.79\00:26:41.53
For me, the most important topic
00:26:47.00\00:26:48.67
that one day my
son will overtake
00:26:48.70\00:26:51.64
from me the company.
00:26:51.67\00:26:54.71
I always believe if I will do
00:26:54.74\00:26:56.81
my business in
professional and ethical way,
00:26:56.85\00:26:59.95
I should be successful.
00:26:59.98\00:27:01.68
So we've got a child, six weeks,
00:27:01.72\00:27:05.35
thought we have
healthy child in our home.
00:27:05.39\00:27:09.02
But after six weeks, he's sick.
00:27:09.06\00:27:13.86
And it was for me
very important moment.
00:27:13.90\00:27:18.30
When we left the
hospital with my wife,
00:27:18.33\00:27:23.44
without our son, I
was first time in my life
00:27:23.47\00:27:28.38
prepare to hear God.
00:27:28.41\00:27:31.41
And my wife told me that
00:27:31.45\00:27:33.55
God would like to
tell us something.
00:27:33.58\00:27:36.79
And, but after a few days later,
00:27:36.82\00:27:40.89
we've got another bad news,
00:27:40.92\00:27:43.69
sickness of our son was fatal.
00:27:43.73\00:27:47.86
And we had no
chance he will survive
00:27:47.90\00:27:51.23
because he had the
cancer in his head.
00:27:51.27\00:27:55.10
And I believed
that God can do miracle
00:27:55.14\00:27:59.81
but it didn't happened.
00:27:59.84\00:28:02.18
He was two months
old, and we lost him.
00:28:02.21\00:28:05.91
And that time we
started to study Bible.
00:28:05.95\00:28:11.19
I've started from
First Book of Moses,
00:28:11.22\00:28:14.49
I've continued to
Third Book of Moses,
00:28:14.52\00:28:16.93
and I was completely lost.
00:28:16.96\00:28:21.40
My parents are Roman Catholic.
00:28:21.43\00:28:24.80
My mother-in-law was Protestant,
00:28:24.83\00:28:27.04
my father-in-law was a
scientist, evolutionist,
00:28:27.07\00:28:30.51
there was some
spectrum of the opinions.
00:28:30.54\00:28:34.71
But I started to ask
logical questions with my life.
00:28:34.74\00:28:41.02
Me and my wife,
we knew we should be
00:28:41.05\00:28:46.22
part of any
Christian fellowship.
00:28:46.25\00:28:50.13
I understood that Bible
was written by prophets.
00:28:50.16\00:28:52.69
From Bible time,
no other prophets
00:28:57.30\00:29:00.84
with some significant
message for the vote.
00:29:00.87\00:29:05.64
One cousin of my wife,
she was Seventh-day Adventist
00:29:05.67\00:29:09.31
and my wife told me,
"I've got some information,
00:29:09.34\00:29:13.85
there was some
ladies, some American lady."
00:29:13.88\00:29:17.35
She should be the prophet.
00:29:17.39\00:29:19.55
Some silent voice
told me I should try it.
00:29:19.59\00:29:25.73
I've got the books of
Ellen White, the pentalogy.
00:29:25.76\00:29:29.30
I've started to
read it, and I started to
00:29:29.33\00:29:31.17
understand the Bible.
00:29:31.20\00:29:32.53
Amen.
00:29:32.57\00:29:34.24
Now I know that
through that journey,
00:29:34.27\00:29:37.34
eventually you and your
wife came to know Jesus Christ.
00:29:37.37\00:29:41.44
You were involved
in the NET '98 series
00:29:41.48\00:29:44.71
and then
eventually you were baptized
00:29:44.75\00:29:46.82
as a result of that journey.
00:29:46.85\00:29:49.25
I'm interested to
know as you realized
00:29:49.28\00:29:51.69
and the scales
fell from your eyes
00:29:51.72\00:29:53.86
and you learn to know Jesus,
00:29:53.89\00:29:55.82
what happened to your
company along the way?
00:29:55.86\00:30:00.33
NET '98 was
perfectly timing for us,
00:30:00.36\00:30:03.70
we converted...
00:30:03.73\00:30:06.33
We decided to be baptized
in Seventh-day Adventist,
00:30:06.37\00:30:09.50
but we wanted to
study Bible more.
00:30:09.54\00:30:11.71
So the baptism was
planned for September '99.
00:30:11.74\00:30:15.78
But during we
expected with my wife,
00:30:15.81\00:30:18.91
even the devil will do
00:30:18.95\00:30:21.25
everything to
change our decision.
00:30:21.28\00:30:24.59
During summer '99 my
very nearest colleagues
00:30:24.62\00:30:28.72
in my company try
to stole my company.
00:30:28.76\00:30:31.66
So one year
after losing our son,
00:30:31.69\00:30:34.96
I have no child,
I have no company.
00:30:35.00\00:30:38.20
But we knew we shouldn't
change our decision for Jesus.
00:30:38.23\00:30:43.37
So even though
you lost your child
00:30:43.41\00:30:45.44
and you lost your
company, you were steadfast
00:30:45.47\00:30:48.48
and you were going to follow
Jesus and still be baptized?
00:30:48.51\00:30:51.65
Yes.
00:30:51.68\00:30:53.01
We were baptized in
the mid of September '99
00:30:53.05\00:30:57.22
and end of September '99
00:30:57.25\00:30:59.75
my company was back.
00:30:59.79\00:31:04.19
So two months later...
00:31:04.23\00:31:06.29
Two weeks
later. Two weeks later.
00:31:06.33\00:31:09.00
And Radim told me, he says,
00:31:09.03\00:31:10.80
"I can't explain
all the details."
00:31:10.83\00:31:12.77
But two weeks
later, my company was back.
00:31:12.80\00:31:15.20
Praise the Lord.
00:31:15.24\00:31:16.57
Now you look at your company
00:31:16.60\00:31:18.04
and family very differently now.
00:31:18.07\00:31:20.71
How is that? What
is your company doing?
00:31:20.74\00:31:22.94
Yes.
00:31:22.98\00:31:25.85
We are constructing
the largest business park
00:31:25.88\00:31:28.38
in Czech Republic.
00:31:28.42\00:31:29.78
And in Jesus Christ,
I've got the best partner
00:31:29.82\00:31:33.86
who I can have in
everything in my life.
00:31:33.89\00:31:39.09
Now what about for your family?
00:31:39.13\00:31:40.80
You and your wife are
praying then for a child?
00:31:40.83\00:31:43.26
Yeah.
00:31:43.30\00:31:45.47
We had no problem to dedicate
to God everything in our lives,
00:31:45.50\00:31:49.04
except one single topic.
00:31:49.07\00:31:51.01
We asked him to
get another child
00:31:51.04\00:31:53.27
as soon as possible.
00:31:53.31\00:31:55.14
And it took two years.
00:31:55.18\00:31:58.31
After two years we
came with my wife together
00:31:58.35\00:32:00.75
with to some conclusion,
00:32:00.78\00:32:02.78
we should dedicate
also this topic to God.
00:32:02.82\00:32:06.12
And we better
prepare in our hearts
00:32:06.15\00:32:09.46
even not to have
00:32:09.49\00:32:10.89
any other child
during our lives.
00:32:10.93\00:32:14.76
When we decided for
it during two months,
00:32:14.80\00:32:18.00
my wife was pregnant.
00:32:18.03\00:32:20.27
So you prayed
and you decided that
00:32:20.30\00:32:22.94
even if God did
not in His wisdom
00:32:22.97\00:32:25.61
or in His providence,
00:32:25.64\00:32:26.98
allow you to have
children, you were going to go
00:32:27.01\00:32:29.08
by that decision.
00:32:29.11\00:32:30.45
Yes. But God
honored your prayers.
00:32:30.48\00:32:32.48
And you have a son now?
00:32:32.51\00:32:34.35
Yes, our son is
now five years old.
00:32:34.38\00:32:37.62
And how is your business going?
00:32:40.72\00:32:43.06
God really blessed our business,
00:32:43.09\00:32:46.39
everything going very well,
and the company was rebuilt.
00:32:46.43\00:32:50.07
We have eight Seventh-day
Adventists in the company.
00:32:50.10\00:32:53.03
We have about 40
people and we are doing
00:32:53.07\00:32:57.74
with our
organization called Maranatha.
00:32:57.77\00:33:00.81
Also some project
together with the church
00:33:00.84\00:33:03.95
for sharing the
gospel and sharing the Christ
00:33:03.98\00:33:06.05
in the marketplace.
00:33:06.08\00:33:07.42
So sharing Christ
in the marketplace
00:33:07.45\00:33:09.02
what you have planned
00:33:09.05\00:33:10.49
is in this
massive business park,
00:33:10.52\00:33:13.19
you are planning on
building a community center?
00:33:13.22\00:33:15.86
Yes.
00:33:15.89\00:33:17.23
There should be
the community center,
00:33:17.26\00:33:20.63
church, and Adventist school.
00:33:20.66\00:33:24.07
So in the midst of all of this,
you'll have a beacon of light
00:33:24.10\00:33:28.14
for Jesus Christ.
00:33:28.17\00:33:29.87
So as God has touched
your heart and planted a seed,
00:33:29.90\00:33:32.61
you desire to plant the
seeds in the hearts of others.
00:33:32.64\00:33:35.64
Yeah. Thank you
very much, Radim.
00:33:35.68\00:33:37.51
Thank you.
00:33:37.55\00:33:38.88
Now joining me are
Cary and Elene Rodgers.
00:33:47.39\00:33:50.73
They are the owners, producers,
00:33:50.76\00:33:53.06
directors, founders
of Pathway to Peace,
00:33:53.09\00:33:56.83
which is a radio ministry
based in Ypsilanti, Michigan.
00:33:56.87\00:34:00.00
And I'd like to ask...
00:34:00.04\00:34:01.67
You know, Cary,
you're a little intimidating.
00:34:01.70\00:34:03.04
You're so tall.
00:34:03.07\00:34:04.41
Can I ask Elene to
come and stand beside me?
00:34:04.44\00:34:07.18
Thank you. I
feel so much better.
00:34:07.21\00:34:08.88
Okay. I wanted to ask you.
00:34:08.91\00:34:11.98
Now I understand you're
doing really well in radio,
00:34:12.01\00:34:16.28
so you must have a
whole lot of training
00:34:16.32\00:34:18.05
to make this happen.
00:34:18.09\00:34:19.42
Is that right, Cary?
A whole lot of training.
00:34:19.45\00:34:22.22
The training of hard
knocks, I went through
00:34:22.26\00:34:24.39
the School of the
University of God,
00:34:24.43\00:34:27.06
God trained me
how to do everything
00:34:27.10\00:34:28.76
that we're doing now.
00:34:28.80\00:34:30.13
So what were you
trained to do before
00:34:30.17\00:34:31.67
or how did your life start?
00:34:31.70\00:34:33.47
Well, basically
our ministry started,
00:34:33.50\00:34:34.97
it started out a tragedy.
00:34:35.00\00:34:37.54
For many years when my
wife and I got married,
00:34:37.57\00:34:40.54
we have many
miscarriages, and in 2000,
00:34:40.58\00:34:44.45
matter of fact, in
2001, we had a stillbirth.
00:34:44.48\00:34:48.18
And during that time, I
was a nominal Christian.
00:34:48.22\00:34:50.45
I went to
church. I went to work.
00:34:50.49\00:34:52.99
I was in computers. My
wife was in real estate.
00:34:53.02\00:34:55.56
But when this
happened, it totally changed
00:34:55.59\00:34:57.99
my way of thinking and
began to think about life,
00:34:58.03\00:35:01.56
I began to think
about why we're here.
00:35:01.60\00:35:04.90
And Jesus Christ came to
this earth to save sinners.
00:35:04.93\00:35:08.74
And that's the
reason why I'm here.
00:35:08.77\00:35:10.64
It says, do the works of Christ,
00:35:10.67\00:35:12.14
not just to go to
church and just go to work
00:35:12.17\00:35:14.18
and make money.
00:35:14.21\00:35:16.11
So you decided that
you were going to do
00:35:16.14\00:35:17.71
something in radio.
00:35:17.75\00:35:19.08
And, Elene, tell me,
what were you going to do,
00:35:19.11\00:35:21.58
this little small project
that you were going to do
00:35:21.62\00:35:24.69
in the starting of radio?
00:35:24.72\00:35:26.05
Exactly.
00:35:26.09\00:35:27.42
We were
thankful of God taking us
00:35:27.46\00:35:28.82
through this particular tragedy.
00:35:28.86\00:35:31.03
And just bringing us through,
00:35:31.06\00:35:32.49
we were starting
to do a lot better.
00:35:32.53\00:35:34.00
And we wanted to
say thank you to God.
00:35:34.03\00:35:35.70
So we said, "We'll give
the Lord a thank you offering.
00:35:35.73\00:35:37.63
We'll do 10 radio programs."
00:35:37.67\00:35:39.90
And that's all
we intended to do.
00:35:39.93\00:35:42.10
But something
happened? What happened, Cary?
00:35:42.14\00:35:43.94
Well, let me tell
you what happened.
00:35:43.97\00:35:45.31
She came to me with an
idea doing a radio broadcast.
00:35:45.34\00:35:47.94
And it was a good idea
00:35:47.98\00:35:49.51
because during
that time of tragedy,
00:35:49.54\00:35:51.18
she was writing a lot.
00:35:51.21\00:35:52.55
And I said, "Well,
why don't you go ahead
00:35:52.58\00:35:53.92
and find out how much
it will cost to get airtime
00:35:53.95\00:35:57.29
and things like that."
00:35:57.32\00:35:58.65
And she did that,
00:35:58.69\00:36:00.02
and she wanted
to do hour of time.
00:36:00.06\00:36:01.39
And I was like, "Whole
hour? That's a lot of time."
00:36:01.42\00:36:02.76
But okay, go ahead
and get the information."
00:36:02.79\00:36:04.69
So she went ahead
and got the information
00:36:04.73\00:36:07.00
and came back with
me and told me that
00:36:07.03\00:36:09.76
it's gonna cost
about $700 per month.
00:36:09.80\00:36:12.73
But I was like, "Well,
that's not gonna hurt too much
00:36:12.77\00:36:14.44
because I got a
job, I'm doing okay,
00:36:14.47\00:36:16.00
my wife's in real
estate, we can do this."
00:36:16.04\00:36:18.74
Anyway, we decided do
on Saturday afternoon,
00:36:18.77\00:36:21.44
Sabbath afternoon.
00:36:21.48\00:36:22.81
So anyway, we get to...
00:36:22.84\00:36:24.41
We actually signed
a contract on Monday.
00:36:24.45\00:36:27.38
The Lord gave us
the name of the program
00:36:27.42\00:36:29.02
Pathway to Peace
because Jesus is our peace.
00:36:29.05\00:36:32.65
And people are
looking for peace.
00:36:32.69\00:36:34.02
So we decided to do testimony
00:36:34.06\00:36:35.82
at the beginning of the program,
00:36:35.86\00:36:37.43
little bit of music,
and then she was gonna do
00:36:37.46\00:36:39.19
words of inspiration,
00:36:39.23\00:36:40.60
and I just
decided to do Bible study,
00:36:40.63\00:36:43.16
and I didn't
know what I was doing.
00:36:43.20\00:36:44.53
But I said,
"Okay, I'm not a priest,
00:36:44.57\00:36:46.20
but I'm gonna do a Bible study."
00:36:46.23\00:36:47.57
But anyway, we went to
the station on a Monday,
00:36:47.60\00:36:50.61
sign the contract.
00:36:50.64\00:36:52.37
On Tuesday, we
came back to the station
00:36:52.41\00:36:54.41
and this was a station in
Charlotte, North Carolina,
00:36:54.44\00:36:56.81
which we're doing it
live, came back on Tuesday,
00:36:56.85\00:36:59.61
I did a promo that
we're gonna start this
00:36:59.65\00:37:01.88
new live radio broadcast.
00:37:01.92\00:37:03.99
And on Wednesday, I get to work.
00:37:04.02\00:37:06.55
And my boss
comes in, and he says,
00:37:06.59\00:37:08.82
"You know what, Cary, I'm
gonna have to lay you off.
00:37:08.86\00:37:12.79
Matter of fact, I'm not
gonna have to lay just you off.
00:37:12.83\00:37:16.16
I'm laid off, we all laid off.
00:37:16.20\00:37:17.80
The company has crashed."
00:37:17.83\00:37:19.63
So anyway, I'm like,
"Okay, the company is crashed."
00:37:19.67\00:37:22.50
But then when I get home
reality starts to sink in.
00:37:22.54\00:37:25.81
I said, "Wait a minute, we
just signed a contract to do
00:37:25.84\00:37:29.54
all these radio
broadcasts at least 10 of them.
00:37:29.58\00:37:31.88
And I don't have a job anymore."
00:37:31.91\00:37:33.35
Matter of fact,
when I left that job,
00:37:33.38\00:37:35.68
they didn't pay me.
00:37:35.72\00:37:37.05
Matter of fact,
they only paid me $500
00:37:37.09\00:37:38.42
that was about it.
00:37:38.45\00:37:39.79
And I said, "Well, we
don't have any more money."
00:37:39.82\00:37:41.49
But anyway, I was at
peace because before,
00:37:41.52\00:37:45.99
a little before we
started the radio broadcast,
00:37:46.03\00:37:48.33
the Lord was calling me
to do full-time ministry.
00:37:48.36\00:37:51.53
And it was so
strong because remember,
00:37:51.57\00:37:53.44
He changed my way of thinking
and this call was so strong
00:37:53.47\00:37:56.77
because I remember one day
I was driving home from work
00:37:56.81\00:37:59.01
and the Lord told me that
00:37:59.04\00:38:00.38
I was groping for
nothing, that I did everything.
00:38:00.41\00:38:03.01
I got it, I got
it. I got an education.
00:38:03.04\00:38:05.91
I got a job, I got
a house, and a car.
00:38:05.95\00:38:07.65
And the Lord
said, "What's next?"
00:38:07.68\00:38:09.22
I said, "Guess
retirement, Lord."
00:38:09.25\00:38:10.59
He said, "What's after that?"
00:38:10.62\00:38:11.95
I said, "I guess death, Lord."
00:38:11.99\00:38:13.32
And then He said,
"What did you do for Me?"
00:38:13.36\00:38:15.02
So I began to
think about my life.
00:38:15.06\00:38:18.79
And so anyway, he was calling me
00:38:18.83\00:38:21.00
for full-time ministry.
00:38:21.03\00:38:23.13
So when He called you
to full-time ministry,
00:38:23.16\00:38:25.40
you decided, all right,
so then this must be a door,
00:38:25.43\00:38:28.57
we're gonna walk
down this pathway,
00:38:28.60\00:38:30.84
and see what we can do
with these radio program.
00:38:30.87\00:38:34.31
So you're gonna
do the radio programs
00:38:34.34\00:38:36.11
and then what?
00:38:36.14\00:38:37.91
The Lord just kept saying,
"Continue to go forward."
00:38:37.95\00:38:40.45
And that's what
He's continued to say.
00:38:40.48\00:38:41.95
Even when we did,
00:38:41.98\00:38:43.32
after we finished
the first 10 programs.
00:38:43.35\00:38:44.72
We still didn't
know how long the Lord
00:38:44.75\00:38:46.59
will continue to say
continue to go forward.
00:38:46.62\00:38:49.12
But even to this day,
and that's been over 4 years,
00:38:49.16\00:38:51.49
actually about 4.5 years now,
00:38:51.53\00:38:53.63
God has continued
to say go forward.
00:38:53.66\00:38:55.26
And that's what
we continue to do.
00:38:55.30\00:38:56.70
So how many stations
00:38:56.73\00:38:58.13
or where is Pathway
to Peace aired, Cary?
00:38:58.17\00:39:00.70
Well, basically,
again Pathway to Peace
00:39:00.74\00:39:02.67
is right now is Bible study.
00:39:02.70\00:39:04.17
That's all we do is Bible study.
00:39:04.21\00:39:06.11
And right now
the Lord has taken us
00:39:06.14\00:39:07.61
from one station in
Charlotte, North Carolina
00:39:07.64\00:39:09.84
where we just
planned to do 10 programs.
00:39:09.88\00:39:12.18
Now we're in about
22 different stations.
00:39:12.21\00:39:14.18
Amen. And the
Lord is truly blessed.
00:39:14.22\00:39:16.35
And we just go
station by station and expand.
00:39:16.38\00:39:20.56
Now I would imagine,
even though you lost your job,
00:39:20.59\00:39:24.03
you have all these stations now,
00:39:24.06\00:39:25.39
so you must have a
pretty hefty bank account
00:39:25.43\00:39:27.23
to fund this radio station.
00:39:27.26\00:39:29.50
Elene, you're laughing.
00:39:29.53\00:39:32.40
I remember coming to our first
ASI Convention in Columbus,
00:39:32.43\00:39:35.24
Ohio, and I
remember hearing CD Brooks
00:39:35.27\00:39:37.44
actually do a sermon entitled
The Blessed Underwriter.
00:39:37.47\00:39:40.81
And the basic essence
of his sermon was that
00:39:40.84\00:39:43.88
God is the blessed underwriter.
00:39:43.91\00:39:45.61
He always underwrites His cause.
00:39:45.65\00:39:47.52
And that's been our testimony
throughout the four years that
00:39:47.55\00:39:50.42
God continues to
underwrite His cause.
00:39:50.45\00:39:52.79
If He says to do it,
00:39:52.82\00:39:54.19
He will provide
the means to do it.
00:39:54.22\00:39:55.89
We are by no means
very wealthy and...
00:39:55.92\00:40:00.16
By any stretch,
but God is faithful.
00:40:00.20\00:40:01.53
But do have a
rich Father though.
00:40:01.56\00:40:02.90
Yes, you have a
rich Father. I do.
00:40:02.93\00:40:05.17
The Heavenly Father. Yeah.
00:40:05.20\00:40:06.53
So... Oh, okay. Got it.
00:40:06.57\00:40:08.40
We all have a
rich heavenly Father.
00:40:08.44\00:40:09.77
But He only gives me
the money when I need it.
00:40:09.80\00:40:11.21
That's it. Okay, so explain it.
00:40:11.24\00:40:12.91
He only gives you the
money when you need it.
00:40:12.94\00:40:14.61
So every single
month is a faith venture
00:40:14.64\00:40:18.31
because we basically what
we do with the 22 stations,
00:40:18.35\00:40:20.92
we are on a few
Adventist stations,
00:40:20.95\00:40:22.88
but most of our
stations are non-Adventist,
00:40:22.92\00:40:25.09
so we had to pay for
airtime in different cities.
00:40:25.12\00:40:28.82
So the expenses
really gotten up there
00:40:28.86\00:40:31.29
into thousands of dollars,
00:40:31.33\00:40:33.33
but every single
month, I can tell you
00:40:33.36\00:40:35.56
when we need it, God provides
00:40:35.60\00:40:37.57
and He's done
that for 4.5 years.
00:40:37.60\00:40:39.23
So nobody can tell me
that God is a provider.
00:40:39.27\00:40:42.37
He's our Jehovah-jireh.
00:40:42.40\00:40:43.91
So as He plants the
seed if you accept it
00:40:43.94\00:40:46.44
and you move
forward, He opens the door.
00:40:46.47\00:40:48.81
Just like He did with
the children of Israel,
00:40:48.84\00:40:50.25
it's the same God.
00:40:50.28\00:40:51.61
And I know that
God has done it for me.
00:40:51.65\00:40:52.98
And this is ASI,
I'm sure He's done it
00:40:53.01\00:40:54.38
for other members as well.
00:40:54.42\00:40:55.75
It's the same God
and He continues to do
00:40:55.78\00:40:57.25
His bidding.
00:40:57.29\00:40:58.62
Once you step into the water...
00:40:58.65\00:41:00.09
You watched the Red
Sea where the waters open.
00:41:00.12\00:41:02.76
Oh yeah, they'll open up apart,
00:41:02.79\00:41:04.23
and you will be
able to go forward.
00:41:04.26\00:41:06.19
Well, Elene, tell me
now has Pathway to Peace
00:41:06.23\00:41:07.96
made a difference?
00:41:08.00\00:41:09.33
Do you have any
stories that you could share
00:41:09.36\00:41:10.90
where the Bible studies
have reached somebody's heart?
00:41:10.93\00:41:13.54
Yes, we do.
00:41:13.57\00:41:14.90
Actually, just last
week, we heard from...
00:41:14.94\00:41:17.87
Because we're on, like he said,
00:41:17.91\00:41:19.24
several stations
not just Adventist,
00:41:19.27\00:41:20.98
we're on an R&B station
where that plays R&B music,
00:41:21.01\00:41:24.81
as well as gospel music.
00:41:24.85\00:41:26.85
And the owner of the station
actually told us last week that
00:41:26.88\00:41:30.65
they've gotten so many calls
or requests for our program
00:41:30.69\00:41:33.76
that he actually
plays it more times
00:41:33.79\00:41:35.99
than we are actually paying for.
00:41:36.02\00:41:37.36
We had no additional
costs, he actually plays it,
00:41:37.39\00:41:40.26
several other
times during the week.
00:41:40.30\00:41:42.06
We're on a
southern gospel station
00:41:42.10\00:41:43.87
that's in
Chattanooga, Tennessee,
00:41:43.90\00:41:45.33
actually we signed
up to be on a network
00:41:45.37\00:41:46.97
in that area.
00:41:47.00\00:41:48.34
And so we were
already airing in Chattanooga,
00:41:48.37\00:41:50.74
an owner of another station
00:41:50.77\00:41:52.67
in Chattanooga
heard the program,
00:41:52.71\00:41:54.34
and she called us, and she said,
00:41:54.38\00:41:55.71
"I want your
program on our station."
00:41:55.74\00:41:58.71
And basically she
gave us the airtime for
00:41:58.75\00:42:02.45
so little of a cost
that we couldn't say no.
00:42:02.48\00:42:05.42
So we are on
their station as well.
00:42:05.45\00:42:08.82
This week as a matter of fact,
00:42:08.86\00:42:10.19
we actually got a
letter from an inmate
00:42:10.23\00:42:11.93
or a person that's in
prison in South Carolina,
00:42:11.96\00:42:14.76
saying how he was blessed
by listening to the program.
00:42:14.80\00:42:17.50
And he gave us $50.
00:42:17.53\00:42:19.10
In fact, it was a state check
00:42:19.13\00:42:20.47
because they
don't even have funds.
00:42:20.50\00:42:22.34
But he was
blessed by the program,
00:42:22.37\00:42:23.71
and he thought that
00:42:23.74\00:42:25.07
he would do
something to contribute.
00:42:25.11\00:42:26.44
We've had...
00:42:26.47\00:42:28.28
I remember talking to
someone or calling someone
00:42:28.31\00:42:31.18
because I was visiting
my mom in North Carolina,
00:42:31.21\00:42:33.52
and I was watching 3ABN
and there was someone on 3ABN
00:42:33.55\00:42:36.99
from that area.
00:42:37.02\00:42:38.35
And I said, "I'll call
her up and tell her that
00:42:38.39\00:42:39.95
there's another
Adventist ministry in the area."
00:42:39.99\00:42:43.32
So I called her up to
tell her about our ministry,
00:42:43.36\00:42:47.03
and she says, "I've
heard your voice before."
00:42:47.06\00:42:49.63
And I said, "Really?"
She said, "Pathway to Peace."
00:42:49.66\00:42:52.37
And I said, "Yeah,
that's our program."
00:42:52.40\00:42:54.14
She said, "I've been listening
00:42:54.17\00:42:55.70
to your program
for such a long time,
00:42:55.74\00:42:57.97
and it has
blessed our marriage."
00:42:58.01\00:43:01.01
So the Lord has many...
00:43:01.04\00:43:02.68
And even last week, one more...
00:43:02.71\00:43:04.28
One more? We had someone.
00:43:04.31\00:43:06.88
We just started in
Detroit. Detroit, Michigan.
00:43:06.92\00:43:09.58
And we had someone from Detroit,
00:43:09.62\00:43:11.65
a young man who actually called
00:43:11.69\00:43:13.62
and he said that
he was really blessed.
00:43:13.66\00:43:16.02
He said, in fact, "I
want all of your CDs,
00:43:16.06\00:43:18.99
I want all the copies of
the programs you've done."
00:43:19.03\00:43:21.10
I said, "Sir, that's
been over 100 programs."
00:43:21.13\00:43:23.47
He said, "I want all of them.
I've just really been blessed.
00:43:23.50\00:43:25.63
I don't call stations normally.
But the Lord is really blessed.
00:43:25.67\00:43:29.17
And I've been
enjoying your program.
00:43:29.20\00:43:30.84
In fact, I wake up on
Sunday mornings early,
00:43:30.87\00:43:33.84
just to listen to the program."
00:43:33.88\00:43:35.84
So God is blessing.
00:43:35.88\00:43:37.21
And our purpose is not
just to get the results
00:43:37.25\00:43:40.32
because sometimes you
hear the positive results,
00:43:40.35\00:43:42.85
but sometimes there
may be lack thunder,
00:43:42.88\00:43:44.52
you don't hear anything,
00:43:44.55\00:43:45.89
but the call is
to still go forward.
00:43:45.92\00:43:47.62
And don't be
discouraged if you don't
00:43:47.66\00:43:49.42
because our role is
just to sow the seed
00:43:49.46\00:43:51.79
and let God do the rest.
00:43:51.83\00:43:53.16
Well, that's the perfect ending.
00:43:53.19\00:43:54.53
And we're out of time.
00:43:54.56\00:43:55.90
Cary and Elene,
thank you so much
00:43:55.93\00:43:57.27
for letting God use you.
00:43:57.30\00:43:58.63
Thank you.
00:43:58.67\00:44:00.00
Well, this is Barry Mosier.
00:44:05.74\00:44:07.78
Barry Mosier, he's a
certified public accountant
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by trade but 16 years ago,
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he actually moved his family
to Tanzania in West Africa,
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excuse me, in East Africa
to volunteer as a missionary
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and for him to be the
treasurer at Kibidula Farms.
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Barry, what is this?
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Did you pick up a piece
of PVC piping on your way in?
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Well, let me get this out
and show it to you, Debbie.
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Okay.
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Well, that looks familiar.
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So, Debbie, this is one
of the ASI picture rolls
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that I think
about seven years ago
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was one of the major
funding projects of ASI.
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And it's made on
waterproof paper,
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non tear paper, high quality,
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and then put into these
PVC tubes to make them...
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With a screw on lid
to make it watertight.
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So very, very
durable and very useful.
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Well, this is
really interesting.
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So it sounds like you
probably use this tool
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there at Kibidula?
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Yeah.
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In the last six years,
since we've been in Tanzania,
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we've shipped 5,300
of these picture rolls
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over to Tanzania and
other parts of East Africa
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and distributed them to,
well, I guess it'd be churches,
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global
pioneers, and lay pastors.
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Well, and I also know that
over 125,000 picture rolls,
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and probably more
than have been printed
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have actually
gone in other countries
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around the world.
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But let me ask you this.
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I'm just curious to know
if they're really effective.
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Is there really
a need for these?
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How well they been received,
for instance, in Africa?
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Okay.
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Well, let me just start
by saying I can remember
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when I first got to Tanzania
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and going into the home
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of the headman of our village
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and glued to his
walls were newspapers.
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And then I can remember
going on to visit churches
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and find our own churches
and finding the only thing
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of color on the
walls was outdated,
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promotional
posters from years back
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that were still
hanging on the wall
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just because it
added some kind of color.
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And so it told me
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how much people really
craved color, pictures,
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anything to brighten
up the walls of the church
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or to use in teaching materials.
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Well, can you share
with us some of the pictures
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that you have that show
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how the picture
rolls have been used?
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Yes, I have some
pictures going up now.
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And when we give our
lay evangelism school,
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training school
graduates a picture roll,
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it becomes very quickly a very,
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very prized
possession in their work
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as they go out
to un-entered areas.
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And you can see here,
this man going out through mud
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and through rain, and
any kind of conditions
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because these
things are so durable,
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and they will never deteriorate.
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Here, Joshua and his wife
are going out to a remote area,
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and they've got
their literature boxes
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balanced on their head,
and their trusty picture roll
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underneath their arm.
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Sabbath schools in
Tanzania are just...
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You'll notice this
one is rather dark,
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and that's pretty universal.
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They're dark, and they
all have a similar quality,
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basically no teaching materials
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and nothing to
beautify the classroom.
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But my wife goes
out and just about
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every Sabbath
takes her picture roll
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and teaches in Sabbath school
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when we go to do
evangelistic effort.
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She takes it along
for teaching purposes.
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They're very useful.
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And, of course, not everyone has
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the privilege of having a
Sabbath School room to be in.
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In this picture, you'll
see one of our global pioneers
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in an un-entered area.
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And I want you to
notice, this picture,
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how the
children are just riveted
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to that picture roll
and just crowded around
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to catch the story.
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And I can promise you
they will remember that story.
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I have to tell
you a story, Debbie.
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A couple of
years ago, my wife took
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an AIDS orphan into
our home to care for
00:48:46.89\00:48:51.23
and that baby lived
with us for about 10 months
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before she died in my
wife's arms one morning.
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It was a very sad day.
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And through her grief
and through her tears,
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she wanted the villagers
to somehow get a glimpse
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of some hope and what
is heaven really like.
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And I can remember her
that day taking her picture roll
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along to Happy's
funeral to show the villagers
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what heaven might be like.
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So she even used
the picture rolls
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in a funeral to give some hope?
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Yes.
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You know, let me just
ask you another question.
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Is there still a
need for picture rolls
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even though there have
been thousands distributed?
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Well, they really are.
00:49:36.74\00:49:38.07
I know I can speak
most for East Africa
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because that's where I am.
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But the need is great.
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There are many countries
that have not yet received
00:49:43.14\00:49:45.25
any picture rolls.
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And, you know,
they are so durable.
00:49:46.85\00:49:48.88
I know that these
picture rolls will be in service
00:49:48.92\00:49:52.39
until Jesus comes
and where you have
00:49:52.42\00:49:56.16
in the remote villages
00:49:56.19\00:49:57.69
where people do not have Bibles,
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many of them are not
able to read, you know,
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these tools are so
useful in having the Bible
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come to life for them.
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Well, that's wonderful, Barry,
isn't it a wonderful blessing
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to note that picture
rolls actually is a recipient
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of our offering that we
anticipate for this weekend.
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So we hope that we can
continue to plant more seeds
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through picture
rolls in the future.
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Amen. Thank you so much, Debbie.
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Thanks ASI. Amen.
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Somebody's down
To their last dime
00:50:46.04\00:50:49.98
Somebody's running out of time
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Not too far from here
00:50:55.02\00:50:57.82
Somebody's got
Nowhere else to go
00:50:57.85\00:51:01.72
Somebody needs a little hope
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Not too far from here
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And I may not know their name
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But I'm praying just the same
00:51:16.27\00:51:20.41
That You'll use me, Lord
00:51:20.44\00:51:22.71
To wipe away the tears
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'Cause somebody's crying, Lord
00:51:27.65\00:51:30.65
Not too far from here
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Somebody's troubled And confused
00:51:33.79\00:51:37.43
Somebody's got
Nothing left to lose
00:51:37.46\00:51:42.56
Not too far from here
00:51:42.60\00:51:45.13
Somebody's
forgotten How to trust
00:51:45.17\00:51:49.30
Somebody's dying for love
00:51:49.34\00:51:54.11
Not too far from here
00:51:54.14\00:51:59.55
It may be a stranger's face
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But I'm praying for Your grace
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To move in me
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And take away the fear
00:52:10.03\00:52:14.70
'Cause somebody's hurting, Lord
00:52:14.73\00:52:17.87
Not too far from here
00:52:17.90\00:52:23.84
Help me, Lord, Not
to turn away from pain
00:52:23.87\00:52:31.28
Help me not to rest,
00:52:31.31\00:52:33.62
while those around me weep
00:52:33.65\00:52:39.62
Give me Your
strength And compassion
00:52:39.65\00:52:46.93
When somebody finds
The road of life too steep
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Now I'm letting down my guard
00:53:06.28\00:53:10.39
And I'm opening my heart
00:53:10.42\00:53:14.59
Let me speak Your love
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To every needful ear
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'Cause Jesus is waiting
00:53:21.70\00:53:24.97
Not too far from here
00:53:25.00\00:53:30.54
'Cause Jesus is waiting
00:53:35.48\00:53:38.91
Not too far from here
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Not too far from here
00:53:53.70\00:53:58.53
Amen.
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Just the time I feel
00:54:25.29\00:54:30.60
That I've been caught
00:54:30.63\00:54:33.64
In the mire of self
00:54:33.67\00:54:37.51
And just the time I feel
00:54:37.54\00:54:42.48
My mind's been bought
00:54:42.51\00:54:45.31
By worldly wealth
00:54:45.35\00:54:49.42
That's when the
breeze begins To blow
00:54:49.45\00:54:55.02
I know The Spirit's ca?
00:54:55.06\00:55:01.36
And all my worldly wanderings
00:55:01.40\00:55:07.34
Just melt into His love
00:55:07.37\00:55:14.11
Oh, I want to know You more
00:55:14.14\00:55:18.61
Deep within my
soul I want to know You
00:55:18.65\00:55:23.15
Oh, I want to know You
00:55:23.18\00:55:26.05
To feel Your
heart And know Your mind
00:55:26.09\00:55:30.69
Looking in Your
eyes Stirs up within me
00:55:30.73\00:55:35.46
Cries that says
I want to know You
00:55:35.50\00:55:42.34
Oh, I want to know You more
00:55:42.37\00:55:47.08
And when my daily deeds
00:55:53.25\00:55:58.52
Ordinarily lose life and song
00:55:58.55\00:56:05.63
My heart begins to bleed
00:56:05.66\00:56:10.93
Sensitivity to Him is gone
00:56:10.97\00:56:17.61
I've run the race
But I've set my own pace
00:56:17.64\00:56:23.55
And face a shattered soul
00:56:23.58\00:56:29.62
Now the gentle arms of Jesus
00:56:29.65\00:56:35.42
Warms my hunger to be whole
00:56:35.46\00:56:42.36
Oh, I want to know You more
00:56:42.40\00:56:46.97
Deep within my
soul I want to know You
00:56:47.00\00:56:51.77
Oh, I want to know You
00:56:51.81\00:56:54.58
To feel you heart
And know Your mind
00:56:54.61\00:56:59.35
Looking in Your
eyes Stirs up within me
00:56:59.38\00:57:03.99
Cries that says
I want to know You
00:57:04.02\00:57:10.59
Oh, I want to know You
00:57:10.63\00:57:13.86
And I would
give My final breathe
00:57:13.90\00:57:18.77
To know You in Your
death And resurrection
00:57:18.80\00:57:23.27
Oh, I want to know You more
00:57:23.30\00:57:30.31
Oh, I want to know
You To know You more
00:57:30.35\00:57:36.99
Oh, I want to know You more
00:57:42.32\00:57:50.33