Welcome back to Wichita, Kansas
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and prophecies of hope
as we've been digging up
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the future each night
as we've been studying
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Bible prophecy
evening by evening.
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How many of you've been
enjoying the meeting so far?
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Amen. All right.
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We're thrilled
that you've been coming.
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We're thrilled that you're
watching all across the world.
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And we're excited
that Pastor Torres
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has been with us as we've been
studying together each night.
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We're just gonna open
with the word of prayer
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if you'd bow your heads with me.
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Dear Father in heaven,
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we're so thankful
tonight that once again
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we can be here
studying Your word.
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We're thankful for the privilege
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and the freedom that
we have to open the Bible
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with our those around the world
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who're
persecuted for doing that.
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So we're thankful for these--
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this privilege that
we have here tonight.
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We ask Your
presence to be with us
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and Your spirit to
guide us and lead us
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and we come tonight
in Jesus name, amen.
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All right, lets
just all stand together
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as we sing our theme
song, "Jesus is Coming Again."
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Marvelous message we bring
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Glorious carol we sing
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Wonderful word of the King
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Jesus is coming again
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Coming again, coming again
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Maybe morning, maybe noon
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Maybe evening, but surely soon
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Coming again, coming again
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Oh what a
wonderful day that will be
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Jesus is coming again
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What a wonderful thought
that Jesus is coming again
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but not just
that He's coming again
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but He's coming
again soon, amen.
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All right, tonight
we have a special treat,
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Don and Luminitsa Mackintosh
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will be sharing our special
music with us this evening.
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All right, it's great to be
able to sing a song with you
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from Matthew Chapter 24.
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And in Matthew 24 it talks about
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deceptions
coming in the last days
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but we can know for sure
that the Lord is with us.
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Take heed that
no one deceives you
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For many will come in my name
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Saying I am the Christ
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I am the Christ
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Take heed that
no one deceives you
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And you will
hear of rumors of wars
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See that you are not in trouble
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For all these
things must come to pass
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But the end is not yet
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Take heed that
no one deceives you
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For many will come in my name
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Saying I am the Christ
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I am the Christ
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Take heed that
no one deceives you
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Do you know for sure
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That our Lord is leading you
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Do you know for sure
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That you are in His hand
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For His sake be not troubled
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Take these things that signs
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Look to hear most of the stories
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Look to hear man there
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Coming again, yes, coming again
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My Jesus is coming again
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Coming again, yes, coming again
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My Jesus is coming again
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Do you know for sure
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That our Lord is leading you
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You can know for sure
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That you are in His hand
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Amen.
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Pastor and pastora-- wife.
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It's so good to, be able
to hear people sing together.
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A newspaper
article came out declaring
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that hell had
just been discovered.
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It was up in the North Pole
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and they found an
open space up there
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and they heard
the sounds of shrieks
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and screams
and-- from down below
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and so they decided to
lower a microphone down to see,
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how much was sound there.
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And there was
actually a newspaper article
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that came like
that, hell had been found.
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But you know that
there is a town called Hell
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in the United States,
are you acquainted with that?
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Yes. Town called Hell, yes.
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But hell is an
interesting subject
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that a lot of people are
been discussing, correct?
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And the US News says,
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"Hell, A new vision
of the Netherworld."
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And if you could notice
the devil is pointing to people
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over there who
are basking in the sun
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and him over here
offering some cocktails
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as they bask in the
sun in their bathing suits.
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You will maybe
surprised to discover
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that a lot of
people are beginning
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to seriously consider all
the spiritual ramifications
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that for centuries only a
few would be interested in.
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But the Bible
reveals that many things
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that will take place in
our day had been predicted
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so that we
would not be deceived.
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What do you say?
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And it's clear
from the scriptures
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that God does
not allow anyone else
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to have control of the destiny
of man except for Himself.
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You may discover
that this passage
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is a good comfort to us.
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Notice the Bible
says in Revelation 1:18,
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"I am he that levith"
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who is this speaking? It
is Jesus speaking to John.
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"I am he that
liveth and was" what?
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"And was dead and, behold,
I am alive for" how long?
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"Evermore, Amen, and
have the keys of hell and of"
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what? "And of death."
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And then it says
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"that when Jesus appeared
to the people in His day,
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they did not understand
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that He was in
charge of all that."
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And so He resurrected
and went and proved to them
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that He in reality
was in command of dead
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and by the fact
that He can resurrect,
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He stated "I am the
resurrection and the"
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what? "And the life."
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And so when He
resurrected the disciples
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did not think
that He's resurrected
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and when He appeared to
them they thought that--
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they saw a spirit and Jesus
then talked to them and said,
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"As they thus spake,
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Jesus himself stood
in the midst of them,
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and saith unto
them, peace be unto you.
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But they were
terrified and affrighted
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and supposed
that they had seen a"
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what? "A spirit."
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What did they think they see?
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They saw pardon me, a spirit.
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But I want you to know this that
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"Jesus said unto
them, why are ye"
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what? What's the question?
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"Why are ye troubled?
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And why do thoughts
arise in your hearts?
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Behold my hands
and my feet that it is"
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what? "I myself."
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Now think of that.
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He doesn't say it is
I-- but it is a what?
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I myself, that
means underscoring
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the reality as not only other
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but it is
Himself and then He says,
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"handle me and see, for a" what?
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"A spirit hath
not flesh and bones,
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as ye see me have."
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So let me ask
you a question then,
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if Jesus really
has the keys of death
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and of hell then
can you see the reality
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that He
demonstrated it by resurrecting,
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coming to life not as a spirit
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but as a human being.
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What do you say? Did
you get the question?
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Did you get the end
point of the question?
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In another words, the
fact that Jesus could resurrect
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and defy death means
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that in indeed He is
the one that has the keys.
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So if anyone has--
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has the answer to the question
of the death as the Christ
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and if anyone has
the question of the--
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the key to what happens
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to you after
life it is the Lord.
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There is no question my friends,
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that, that the Bible
reveals concerning death
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that if a person does
die that he goes to sleep
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but it also
reveals then that people
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when they finally die that
is when the destruction comes
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that they will be
completely destroyed
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and not some
individual that continues
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on and on and on and on and on.
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What I was
saying by this is this.
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How many of you
have heard of hellfire?
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And let me ask
you another question,
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how many of you
have been to a funeral?
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And how many of you
have heard in the funeral,
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the preacher say,
"poor soul, he is in hell,
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I can see him right
now burning and burning."
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How many of you heard
that in a funeral, any of you?
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Yes or no?
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How many of you-- how
many funerals have you been to?
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Several.
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And you mean in not
one funeral you've heard
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"poor soul, I can see him.
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Yeah, he's really--really
been torched about and fried."
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No, in every funeral what
do you-- what do you hear?
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"Oh, I can see him walking
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through the
pearly gates, right now."
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All right, or
"rest in peace" or what?
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"O rest in peace."
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Have it ever occur to you
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that hell must be
a very empty place?
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No one seems to go there.
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And yet preachers try to
scare people to death with hell.
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The reality is that there
are some texts in the scriptures
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that seem to lean
to the idea of hellfire
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but please understand
that God only promises
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eternal life to
those who are saved.
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If you remember John
3:16, what did it say?
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"For God so loved
the world that He" what?
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"He gave" what?
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"His only begotten son that,
who is so ever believed in,
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him should not" what?
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"Perish" Does it says
should not continue perishing
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or does it say should
not perish but have what?
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Everlasting
life. Everlasting life.
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Now in-- in the book of Romans
Paul says something like this,
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"for the wages of sin, is" what?
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"Death."
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"But the gift of God is" what?
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"Eternal life." "Eternal life."
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Now let me ask you a question.
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If you could live on forever
and ever and ever in hell
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then what do you have?
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You have eternal life.
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But who is
eternal life given to?
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The wicked or the righteous?
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Righteous. The righteous.
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So how is it then that you have
people living forever in hell
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when they don't
have eternal life?
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Who gives
eternal life? God does.
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Do we ourselves have the ability
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to live on forever and ever? No.
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Does a devil have
the ability to keep you
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living on forever and ever?
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According to the Bible
who is a source of life? God.
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According to the
scriptures, who gives life? God.
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And according to
the scriptures it says,
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"He that have Son have, life,
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he that have not the
Son of God have not, life."
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Well, if you do not have life
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then how can you go on
burning forever and ever?
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Does it make sense? No.
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But let me, let me
study a little deeper with you
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to help you to
understand this whole issue
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because I think it's
confusing a lot of people
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and a lot of people think that,
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you know, people actually
go to hell and burn forever.
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But I want you to
notice what the scripture says.
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First of all
Ecclesiastes that tells us
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that the dead know how much?
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"Not anything" that's verse
5 and of course verse 6 says.
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"Their hatred, their
love, their envy is now perished
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neither have they any more a
portion for ever in any thing
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that is done under the earth."
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So when a person dies,
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he doesn't go and
burn someplace in--
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under contrary he just
simply rest, what do you say?
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That's what the scripture says.
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Now the Bible does say however
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"that the soul that
sineth it shall" what?
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"Die." "It shall die."
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Now the word
"soul" simply means that--
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that which is
composed of two things.
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You remember God created man
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and said "that He
formed the body from the dust
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and then breathe
into his nostrils" what?
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"The breathe of life
and man became a" what?
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"A living soul."
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So a living soul is that
component of the two things
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and the scripture says,
"If you sin you will die."
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Is that what God
said to Eve? Yes.
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And how many of you have
experienced people dying?
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Then who is correct
the devil or Christ?
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Christ said, "You shall die."
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The devil said, "You won't die."
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Who was right? Christ.
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And who is wrong? The devil.
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But he doesn't give up
easy so he's trying to keep
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that lie a lie
for all the times.
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So he's created
all sorts of ideas
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and it's amazing
how many different ideas
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people have about death.
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You have
reincarnation, you have limbo,
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you have
purgatory, you have hell,
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all sorts of
different ideas about hell.
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Is that true or life
after death, pardon me.
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But the Scripture is
very plain that eternal life
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is given to those who chose life
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not to those who chose not life.
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Now the idea of-- of
eternal fire of course
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that does not
come from the Bible,
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it seems to allude to that
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but if you'd
notice in Matthew 10:28,
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Jesus says, "Fear not
which can kill the" what?
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"The body, but are
not able to kill the soul,
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but rather fear him which
is able to destroy both" what?
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"Soul and body in hell."
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In another words, the
complete being, the what?
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The complete being,
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the body and the entire
thought process and everything.
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In other words, the
scripture makes it plain then
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that either you live
forever or you die for how long?
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Forever, okay.
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Now having said that
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"The idea of immortality
of people having immortal life
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comes from of
course from paganism."
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Comes from where?
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Paganism. From paganism.
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Of course it's sad to say
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that lot of people
believe that mummify
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and if they could wake up
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and find
themselves in the museum
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they would
discover it wasn't heaven.
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Is that true?
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I went to the Oslo museum.
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I mean the museum
in the Oslo, Norway
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and they have Viking
boat that I talk to you about.
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And the sad thing
it's just I was sad
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that they believed that
they took everything with them.
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So they buried the
boat with their servants
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and their
livestock and everything else
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thinking they will
carry them to the other life
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and unfortunately as I
said, if they could wake up
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they find
themselves in the museum
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with all sorts of
people gawking at them.
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The reality is, friends,
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that what the Bible
is true, people die.
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They what? They die, they rest.
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Now one of the
problems that people use
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in the Bible is the
story of Lazarus and rich man.
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How man of you have heard that?
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And I've heard people say,
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"Look pastor don't tell me that
there is no hell down there.
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The Bible speaks
about Jesus Himself said
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'that there is rich man that
went down there was burning.'"
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But let me--
let me ask you this.
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I've always asked people that
do you believe that's literal?
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"Oh, yes it's literal."
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Okay, then
let's read it together
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and find out how literal it is.
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Well, as we read
Luke 17--15 pardon me,
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I want you to
notice how literal it is.
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First of all it says then
that this particular gentleman
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who supposedly goes down into--
it should be chapter 16 not 15.
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If you-- chapter 16,
it's a TYPO error there
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but none the less,
you know, where I am.
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Chapter 16 and
verse 19, it says,
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there's a certain
man who was wealthy
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and he had plenty to
eat and there was a beggar
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that sat by his gate
do you remember that?
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And the Scripture then
said that the beggar died
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and was carried onto
the bosom of Abraham,
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do you see that?
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And then it says,
that the rich man died
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and went down to
this place of torment.
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Then the Bible says,
that the rich man looks up
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and begins to
talk to father Abraham.
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You see where I am right now.
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"And it came to
pass that the beggar died
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and was carried
to Abraham's bosom."
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A verse 22, "And
the rich man also died
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and he was buried
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and in hell he lift up
his eyes being in torment
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and see if Abraham far off
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and begins this
discourse with Abraham."
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And sees Lazarus,
where? "In his bosom" okay.
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So he begins to
say, "Father, Abraham"
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verse 24, "Have mercy on me
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and send Lazarus that he may dip
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the tip of his finger
in water and cool my tongue
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for I'm
tormented in this flame."
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Okay, so what is
Jesus doing here?
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Well, Jesus is
giving the people a parable
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but it's a parable
based upon the concept
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that the Jews had
accepted from the Greeks.
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The Greeks believed that
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this body was a
cage of the spirit
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and that when the body died
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then your spirit went
to some cleansing place
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or purging place of fire
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and after
process of getting purge
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then you finally
went to that the bliss.
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Okay, so the Jews had
accepted that teaching
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rather than accepting
what the Bible had taught.
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And so Jesus is
using their ideas
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but He kind of throws
a curveball like then.
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And you'd say "well,
what do you mean a curve?"
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Well, you see
according to the Jewish mind
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it was a rich man
that went to heaven.
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If you were rich and
you were blessed by God
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and you were close to God
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and that's why you're
so well off and all that.
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And you went, where?
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To heaven but if you
were poor and miserable
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like just God been
describes you went, where?
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Right down to hell because
there you'll see your so--
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it's so miserable it's
because you're terrible sinner.
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And even though nobody knew
it you find a corpse with you
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because you went down to hell.
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That was the idea.
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So what does Jesus do?
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He sends the
poor guy up to heaven
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and He sends the
rich guy down to hell.
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But you can imagine the
Jews listening to Christ
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and thinking what in
the world is going on.
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You got this thing twisted.
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Well, Jesus has got
their attention now right.
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And Jesus says,
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"The rich man goes
to Abraham's bosom."
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And I've asked the
person inside the heirloom.
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I said, "now let
me ask you something.
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Do all the saved go
to the bosom of Abraham?"
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And immediately, what
do you think they said.
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"No that means."
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I said, well, now wait a minute.
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I said you said it's literal.
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If it's literal it
can't mean its literal.
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Everyone goes to
where to Abraham's chests.
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Now here is the next question,
how big is Abraham's chest?
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It must be pretty
big, what do you say?
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Yes or no? Yes.
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Well, we know that all the saved
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don't go to Abraham's chest.
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No, it's just
analogy an illustration
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because the Jews believed
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that they can trace
themselves back to Abraham
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they had a
ticket right to heaven.
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And Jesus is simply
saying that the rich--
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that the poor man
goes to bosom of Abraham
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symbolizing them
the trust of the Jews
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had that they
went right to heaven
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because of
Abraham's connection with God.
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But listen, there are
several things that we--
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we should consider here.
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Number one, "Is Abraham's
chest the resting of the saved.
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Is his chest
heaven?" What's the answer?
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No. No.
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Number two, "Can one
drop of water cool off
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some one who is
supposed to be in extreme heat?"
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No.
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Yes or no? No.
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How many of you've
been outside today?
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Any of you? Let
me ask you something.
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Could one drop
cool you off? No, no.
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Well, if one drop
can't cool you off
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and it's not that
hot outside in comparison
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to what they say this place
is then how hot is this place?
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It must not be very hot.
If one drop can cool you off.
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What do you say?
00:23:28.86\00:23:30.40
But listen, how close
is heaven to hell then?
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According to this parable,
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the rich man is
talking directly,
00:23:37.18\00:23:38.61
to Abraham, who is
supposed to be where?
00:23:38.64\00:23:41.72
In heaven. So the question,
is how close is heaven to hell?
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According to this parable
it must be very close, right?
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But if it's only a parable
it bring another message,
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bring another what?
00:23:52.17\00:23:53.36
A message, a lesson.
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And then can the lost
communicate with the saved?
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What's the answer
to that, yes or no?
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No.
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Will God allow the lost to
communicate with the saved?
00:24:00.33\00:24:03.31
What's the
answer? Absolutely not.
00:24:03.34\00:24:06.74
So obviously this is a parable
00:24:06.77\00:24:08.48
and Jesus is
trying to bring a lesson.
00:24:08.51\00:24:09.98
What's the lesson?
00:24:10.01\00:24:11.38
Well, "If one
drop of water can cool,
00:24:11.41\00:24:13.99
then how hot is hell?"
00:24:14.02\00:24:15.89
Not very hot.
00:24:15.92\00:24:17.21
And then the spirits
then have physical bodies
00:24:17.24\00:24:20.16
eyes and
tongues as it says here.
00:24:20.19\00:24:22.64
It says "that put
a drop on my tongue."
00:24:22.67\00:24:26.03
So obviously
it's physical, right?
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Yes or no, so the
spirits have tongues.
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What's the answer?
According to the Bible, no.
00:24:31.87\00:24:34.34
Jesus said, "handle me
for a spirit have not" what?
00:24:34.37\00:24:37.89
"Flesh and bones."
00:24:37.92\00:24:39.20
What is Jesus referring
to when He said the spirit?
00:24:39.23\00:24:41.37
If you look in Bible,
00:24:41.40\00:24:42.43
Spirit it's
nothing more than an angel.
00:24:42.46\00:24:44.47
What is it? An angel.
00:24:44.50\00:24:47.07
The Bible says are they
not all ministering spirits.
00:24:47.10\00:24:50.32
So Jesus is saying an angel
does not have flesh and bones
00:24:50.35\00:24:54.12
as you and I have. Why?
00:24:54.15\00:24:56.14
Because the Bible says
00:24:56.17\00:24:57.67
"that God made man a
little lower than the angels."
00:24:57.70\00:25:01.30
So the angels are
ministering spirits.
00:25:01.33\00:25:03.45
You and I are human
beings. Is that clear?
00:25:03.48\00:25:07.38
Yes, all right now.
What was the lesson?
00:25:07.41\00:25:10.86
The points of the parables,
00:25:10.89\00:25:12.33
number one, "Once
dead, our destiny is" what?
00:25:12.36\00:25:15.18
Fixed. Fixed.
00:25:15.21\00:25:17.30
The message was
there is great Go-fix.
00:25:17.33\00:25:20.21
Is a what? A great Go-fix.
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Number two, if you not
hear Moses and the Prophets,
00:25:23.27\00:25:26.08
you'll not believe God.
00:25:26.11\00:25:28.41
In another words, he
said, "Well, follow Abraham look
00:25:28.44\00:25:32.17
if I can't get help
then send them to my brothers
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I have a couple of brothers,
a five brothers back at home
00:25:34.68\00:25:37.71
and if Lazarus appears
to him, don't believe."
00:25:37.74\00:25:42.20
And the message is
if they will not hear
00:25:42.23\00:25:45.18
Moses and the
Prophets they will not believe
00:25:45.21\00:25:47.84
even if one which
arise from the dead.
00:25:47.87\00:25:51.11
In another words, if
they will not believe, what?
00:25:51.14\00:25:55.00
The Scriptures they
will not believe even if one
00:25:55.03\00:25:58.31
which arise from the dead.
00:25:58.34\00:26:00.68
By the way did a Lazarus
resurrect from the death?
00:26:00.71\00:26:07.57
Yes or no? Yes. Yes.
00:26:07.60\00:26:09.77
Did they believe? No.
00:26:09.80\00:26:14.46
Why didn't they believe
00:26:14.49\00:26:16.00
because they
would not accept what?
00:26:16.03\00:26:18.39
Moses and the Prophets.
00:26:18.42\00:26:20.28
So what is that
telling you then?
00:26:20.31\00:26:22.21
My friends, if you
don't believe the Word of God,
00:26:22.24\00:26:26.93
you'll not believe even if
one which arise from the dead.
00:26:26.96\00:26:32.94
Why, because it is in
this word that it tells us
00:26:32.97\00:26:36.64
that the dead in
Christ will rise.
00:26:36.67\00:26:40.38
What do you say?
00:26:40.41\00:26:42.58
And it also tells us
that the dead are where?
00:26:42.61\00:26:45.36
In their graves.
00:26:45.39\00:26:46.90
By the way the word "hell"
is another word for "grave"
00:26:46.93\00:26:54.48
and some people
don't understand that
00:26:54.51\00:26:56.92
but will get to that
in just a few minutes.
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If you then consider hellfire
you have to ask the question
00:27:01.06\00:27:04.80
is the devil in charge
of it, what's the answer?
00:27:04.83\00:27:08.19
Well, most people
believe that the devil
00:27:08.22\00:27:10.59
is in charge of hell, correct.
00:27:10.62\00:27:14.45
I mean and most
that's what they teach.
00:27:14.48\00:27:16.33
Who did they teach its
roasting people down there?
00:27:16.36\00:27:20.31
They teach that the devil
is roasting people down there.
00:27:20.34\00:27:22.56
Isn't that true?
That's what they teach.
00:27:22.59\00:27:24.97
So the question is that is
it devil in charge of hell?
00:27:25.00\00:27:28.56
And if he is then
we have a problem.
00:27:28.59\00:27:31.25
If the devil is in
charge of hell then
00:27:31.28\00:27:34.80
God and Satan
are, what? Partners--
00:27:34.83\00:27:37.99
God is the judge and
Satan is the punisher.
00:27:38.02\00:27:43.74
Do you believe that?
00:27:43.77\00:27:45.52
Do you believe that God
and Satan are the partners?
00:27:45.55\00:27:47.11
No.
00:27:47.14\00:27:48.17
Well you say,
"well, how do you--
00:27:48.20\00:27:49.23
how do you come
to that conclusion?"
00:27:49.26\00:27:50.54
Very simple.
00:27:50.57\00:27:51.78
No one is speaking
when somebody goes to prison
00:27:51.81\00:27:54.82
who sentence them to prison?
00:27:54.85\00:27:57.42
A judge of course.
00:27:57.45\00:27:59.48
And who takes
care of the prisoners?
00:27:59.51\00:28:02.33
We call them a warden.
00:28:02.36\00:28:03.64
What do we call them? A warden.
00:28:03.67\00:28:05.73
So the warden and its
who, Satan and judge is whom?
00:28:05.76\00:28:09.73
God, so the God
and Satan are partners.
00:28:09.76\00:28:12.94
And God saying to you
"Okay, you got to hell"
00:28:12.97\00:28:15.11
and then the devil says,
00:28:15.14\00:28:16.17
"Okay I got you
in my hands, buddy."
00:28:16.20\00:28:20.91
God sent you to me so I
got to take care of you.
00:28:20.94\00:28:24.30
But is that the
truth, yes or no?
00:28:24.33\00:28:26.01
Absolutely not, God
and Satan are not partners.
00:28:26.04\00:28:29.31
And God would not be fair then.
00:28:29.34\00:28:31.40
Let's suppose that,
00:28:31.43\00:28:32.46
that Cain who killed one
person died and went to hell.
00:28:32.49\00:28:37.08
And Hitler who killed
over three million people dies
00:28:37.11\00:28:39.85
and goes to hell.
00:28:39.88\00:28:40.91
Who are burnt longer?
00:28:40.94\00:28:43.34
Who will burn longer? Cain.
00:28:43.37\00:28:45.33
Cain would burn longer
because he's been burning now
00:28:45.36\00:28:47.75
for about 6,000 years
00:28:47.78\00:28:48.88
and Hitler starts
in the 1946, right?
00:28:48.91\00:28:52.83
And so "Oh, Cain is burning
for 6,000 years for one person
00:28:52.86\00:28:57.27
and now Hitler at
least gets spare 6,000 years.
00:28:57.30\00:29:01.27
Is that fair, yes or no?
00:29:01.30\00:29:03.34
You can see friends,
00:29:03.37\00:29:04.44
that as you look at
the situation it is clear
00:29:04.47\00:29:07.50
that the whole
idea of an eternal hell
00:29:07.53\00:29:11.69
it's not biblical
some people think it is
00:29:11.72\00:29:14.29
but it's really
is not because God,
00:29:14.32\00:29:16.76
is not seeking
to give eternal life
00:29:16.79\00:29:18.38
to those who are wicked,
00:29:18.41\00:29:19.57
God is seeking
to give eternal life
00:29:19.60\00:29:21.12
to those who love Him.
00:29:21.15\00:29:25.16
Now let's-- let's look
at some more points on this
00:29:25.19\00:29:29.24
and get some things cleared up.
00:29:29.27\00:29:30.98
"God is trusting a," what?
00:29:34.38\00:29:37.41
"A murderer to be" what? "Just."
00:29:37.44\00:29:39.91
Did not Christ say about Satan
he is a murderer from when?
00:29:39.94\00:29:44.01
From the beginning.
00:29:44.04\00:29:45.36
Now if you were a
judge and you had--
00:29:45.39\00:29:47.73
have somebody to get
punished, would you put them--
00:29:47.76\00:29:51.12
somebody in
charge of the murderer
00:29:51.15\00:29:52.63
to give judge
punishment, would you?
00:29:52.66\00:29:55.69
I don't think so.
00:29:55.72\00:29:57.51
And I don't think
that we should accept
00:29:57.54\00:30:00.48
that particular aspect.
00:30:00.51\00:30:01.78
Point number four, God's
gift and eternal life to whom?
00:30:01.81\00:30:06.17
To the wicked.
00:30:06.20\00:30:08.03
And we know that eternal life
is only given to the righteous.
00:30:08.06\00:30:12.12
And so the devil
according to some people
00:30:12.15\00:30:14.53
is in charge of hell
00:30:14.56\00:30:16.05
but according to the scriptures
00:30:16.08\00:30:17.80
there is no
space-- place as hell.
00:30:17.83\00:30:20.94
Now you may say, well
there is no place like hell
00:30:20.97\00:30:24.34
then what is this that
the Bible speaking about?
00:30:24.37\00:30:27.46
How can we come to
some rationale conclusion?
00:30:27.49\00:30:31.89
We should understand
00:30:31.92\00:30:33.11
that the Bible
says in Revelation 20:10
00:30:33.14\00:30:36.00
"And the devil that deceived
then was cast into" what?
00:30:36.03\00:30:39.34
"The lake of " what?
00:30:39.37\00:30:40.52
"Fire and
brimstone, where the beast
00:30:40.55\00:30:42.81
and the false prophet are,
00:30:42.84\00:30:43.87
and shall be tormented day
and night for ever and ever."
00:30:43.90\00:30:46.81
Now they say that
there is some text
00:30:46.84\00:30:48.94
they get to burnt for how long?
00:30:48.97\00:30:51.40
For ever and ever.
00:30:51.43\00:30:52.85
The problem with this text
00:30:52.88\00:30:54.17
is that the focus is
that they get burned,
00:30:54.20\00:30:57.53
yeah, they all suffer
some torment for a short time
00:30:57.56\00:31:00.10
but the burning
completes the action
00:31:00.13\00:31:02.55
and they burn forever.
00:31:02.58\00:31:06.91
All right, well, you
say, how do you know that?
00:31:06.94\00:31:09.10
Because the
scripture is very clear.
00:31:09.13\00:31:11.44
I want you to
notice what it says
00:31:11.47\00:31:12.56
about the devil
in Ezekiel 28:16,
00:31:12.59\00:31:15.75
"The devil will be destroyed
00:31:15.78\00:31:17.99
by the multitude
of thy merchandise
00:31:18.02\00:31:19.61
they have filled the
midst of thee with violence,
00:31:19.64\00:31:24.53
and thou hast sinned therefore
I will cast thee as" what?
00:31:24.56\00:31:29.28
"Profane out of the
mountain of God, I will" what?
00:31:29.31\00:31:33.36
"Destroy thee O covering cherub,
00:31:33.39\00:31:35.90
from the midst of
the stones of fire."
00:31:35.93\00:31:37.85
Then it says, "Thou
has defiled thy sanctuaries
00:31:37.88\00:31:40.77
by the multitude
of thine iniquities,
00:31:40.80\00:31:42.67
by thy iniquity of thy traffick,
00:31:42.70\00:31:45.77
therefore will I
bring you forth."
00:31:45.80\00:31:47.46
Pardon me.
00:31:47.49\00:31:48.52
"Therefore will I
bring forth a fire
00:31:48.55\00:31:50.52
from the midst of
thee, it shall" what?
00:31:50.55\00:31:53.35
Devour.
00:31:53.38\00:31:54.41
Now if
something devour something
00:31:54.44\00:31:55.89
what does that
mean, it remains? No.
00:31:55.92\00:31:57.90
No, "it shall devour thee,
and I will bring thee to" what?
00:31:57.93\00:32:02.46
"Ashes upon the earth
from sight of all them
00:32:02.49\00:32:04.97
that behold thee."
00:32:05.00\00:32:06.04
So that's the Bible said,
that the devil will continue
00:32:06.07\00:32:08.19
to burn for ever and
ever, what's the answer?
00:32:08.22\00:32:10.52
No.
00:32:10.55\00:32:11.58
According to the
scripture, yes, he will burn
00:32:11.61\00:32:13.68
and that we don't know
how long he'll burned for
00:32:13.71\00:32:15.95
but we do know that he'll burn
00:32:15.98\00:32:17.31
because he must suffer
00:32:17.34\00:32:18.37
the punishment
of what he's done.
00:32:18.40\00:32:19.62
But the Bible says,
00:32:19.65\00:32:20.68
"Ultimately he will
be brought to" what?
00:32:20.71\00:32:23.07
"To ashes."
00:32:23.10\00:32:24.95
This is what the
Bible calls the second death
00:32:24.98\00:32:30.21
or the eternal death.
00:32:30.24\00:32:33.04
In the Book of Malachi
even, tells us about the wicked.
00:32:33.07\00:32:36.17
Malachi 4:1-3 it says,
"For behold, the day cometh,
00:32:36.20\00:32:39.92
that shall as an" what?
00:32:39.95\00:32:41.80
"As an oven, and
all the proud, yea,
00:32:41.83\00:32:43.63
and all that do
wickedly shall be stubble
00:32:43.66\00:32:45.56
and that day that
cometh shall burn them" what?
00:32:45.59\00:32:49.29
"Up saith the Lord of hosts,
00:32:49.32\00:32:51.36
that it shall
leave them neither" what?
00:32:51.39\00:32:53.55
"Root nor branch."
00:32:53.58\00:32:55.18
And then the scripture says,
00:32:55.21\00:32:56.87
"And ye shall
tread down the wicked,
00:32:56.90\00:32:58.99
for they shall be" what?
00:32:59.02\00:33:00.75
"Ashes under the soles
of your feet in the day
00:33:00.78\00:33:03.57
that I shall do this."
00:33:03.60\00:33:04.68
And who says this? "The Lord."
00:33:04.71\00:33:06.76
So what will
happen then to the wicked?
00:33:06.79\00:33:09.17
According to the
Bible they'll be ashes.
00:33:09.20\00:33:10.92
What will happen to the devil?
00:33:10.95\00:33:12.36
According to the
Bible he will be ashes.
00:33:12.39\00:33:15.03
So how long did they
burned for, for ever and ever?
00:33:15.06\00:33:17.89
Yes, they burn for
ever and ever in the sense
00:33:17.92\00:33:20.20
that the burning takes
place and it's done for ever.
00:33:20.23\00:33:23.74
Is that clear?
00:33:26.97\00:33:28.98
But let me make a
little bit more clear, okay?
00:33:29.01\00:33:33.55
It's important for us to
understand what takes place.
00:33:33.58\00:33:37.39
According to strong concordance
00:33:37.42\00:33:39.81
if you have a strong concordance
00:33:39.84\00:33:41.45
and somebody have been
winning one in the seminar,
00:33:41.48\00:33:44.44
the strong concordance
says, that Gehenna of fire.'
00:33:44.47\00:33:48.76
This was originally
the valley of Hinnom,
00:33:48.79\00:33:51.55
south of
Jerusalem, where the filth
00:33:51.58\00:33:53.86
and dead animals of the
city were cast out and burned
00:33:53.89\00:33:56.82
a fit symbol of the wicked
and their future destruction."
00:33:56.85\00:33:59.60
In another words, there
were two types of burial places
00:33:59.63\00:34:02.08
there was Hades which is
hell and there was the grave.
00:34:02.11\00:34:05.54
And in both cases
then the scripture reveals
00:34:05.57\00:34:08.94
that some people who die
and did not have where to bury
00:34:08.97\00:34:12.95
were thrown into
the garbage dump.
00:34:12.98\00:34:16.86
Especially, it was
done for thieves or robbers.
00:34:16.89\00:34:19.60
People who were crucified.
00:34:19.63\00:34:21.06
If you remember
when Christ is crucified
00:34:21.09\00:34:22.56
they did not break his bones
00:34:22.59\00:34:24.12
but they came to
the other two thieves
00:34:24.15\00:34:25.32
and broke their
bones, their legs.
00:34:25.35\00:34:27.20
The reason for is
that they indented
00:34:27.23\00:34:29.63
that these people could not live
00:34:29.66\00:34:31.69
so they did not die
hanging on the cross
00:34:31.72\00:34:34.06
and they took
them off the cross,
00:34:34.09\00:34:35.12
they broke their legs
00:34:35.15\00:34:36.54
and then they throw
them in the garbage dump
00:34:36.57\00:34:38.04
and left them
there to die of exposure.
00:34:38.07\00:34:40.18
And finally they would just die
00:34:40.21\00:34:41.75
and then finally
they began to rot.
00:34:41.78\00:34:43.41
And that's where
the Bible gives you
00:34:43.44\00:34:44.85
the picture of
the worms eating them
00:34:44.88\00:34:47.47
and the smoke ascending up.
00:34:47.50\00:34:49.88
Do you remember that?
00:34:49.91\00:34:50.94
Well, if you go to a
garbage dump, what do you see?
00:34:50.97\00:34:53.10
You see the smoke, what?
00:34:53.13\00:34:54.17
Ascending up, they
burn the garbage dump
00:34:54.20\00:34:57.32
and that's why you have
constant smoke ascending up.
00:34:57.35\00:35:00.56
That's the picture
that the Bible gives
00:35:00.59\00:35:02.59
of the two burial places.
00:35:02.62\00:35:04.40
Either you get buried in
this place that just burns
00:35:04.43\00:35:07.17
which is a garbage dump
00:35:07.20\00:35:08.53
or you get buried
in the regular grave
00:35:08.56\00:35:11.23
and Jesus is buried
in the regular grave.
00:35:11.26\00:35:13.29
In another words,
00:35:13.32\00:35:14.73
when the crucifixion
came there were two burials.
00:35:14.76\00:35:17.57
Christ was buried in the grave
00:35:17.60\00:35:19.03
and the thieves were
thrown in the garbage dump,
00:35:19.06\00:35:21.21
both were buried.
00:35:21.24\00:35:22.37
Gehenna then is one
00:35:27.58\00:35:29.17
and of course
Hades is the other one.
00:35:29.20\00:35:31.41
"In the LXX which
is the Septuagint Bible
00:35:31.44\00:35:33.73
that was translated
from the Hebrew to Greek
00:35:33.76\00:35:36.14
and that's the Bible
that existent in Jesus day,
00:35:36.17\00:35:38.60
it says "It is a
usual translation
00:35:38.63\00:35:40.17
that Hebrew show
a grave as in Hosea.
00:35:40.24\00:35:44.36
The word Hades appears on
the many ancient tombstones
00:35:44.39\00:35:47.79
in Asia Minor of the grave
of such and such a person."
00:35:47.82\00:35:51.81
Okay, if you go
to the tombstones
00:35:51.84\00:35:53.93
it says the
grave of or the Hades.
00:35:53.96\00:35:57.25
So you have the grave and
you have the garbage dump.
00:35:57.28\00:36:00.50
In either place you
died and were buried.
00:36:00.53\00:36:03.82
When the Sodom and
Gomorrha were destroyed
00:36:06.86\00:36:09.20
the Bible says, in Jude 1:7
00:36:09.23\00:36:12.26
there is only
one chapter in Jude.
00:36:12.29\00:36:14.10
In verse 7 it says,
"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha
00:36:14.13\00:36:16.77
and the cities
about them in like manner,
00:36:16.80\00:36:18.60
giving themselves
over to fornication,
00:36:18.63\00:36:20.48
and going after strange flesh,
00:36:20.51\00:36:22.07
and set forth for an example
00:36:22.10\00:36:23.72
suffering the
vengeance of" what?
00:36:23.75\00:36:25.83
"Eternal fire" so let
me ask you a question?
00:36:25.86\00:36:28.06
Is the city eternal
or is the fire eternal?
00:36:28.09\00:36:32.05
What does it say?
00:36:32.08\00:36:33.46
"Suffering the
vengeance of" what?
00:36:33.49\00:36:35.34
"Eternal fire."
00:36:35.37\00:36:37.09
Is the city still burning?
00:36:37.12\00:36:38.84
Sodom and Gomorrha, yes or no?
00:36:38.87\00:36:41.74
So which is the eternal, is
it-- the people or the fire?
00:36:41.77\00:36:46.65
The fire does the eternal work.
00:36:46.68\00:36:48.55
In other words
completes its work
00:36:48.58\00:36:50.10
and that's what
the Scripture means
00:36:50.13\00:36:52.02
by this particular
phrase of eternal death.
00:36:52.05\00:36:56.76
The fire is
eternal not the people.
00:36:56.79\00:36:59.24
And so what the
scripture reveals
00:36:59.27\00:37:01.26
is simply that people
will finally come to an end
00:37:01.29\00:37:04.85
that there is no
particular hell right now
00:37:04.88\00:37:07.74
and that people
are actually buried
00:37:07.77\00:37:10.36
and rest in their graves
according to the scriptures
00:37:10.39\00:37:13.34
until the resurrection
either resurrection of life
00:37:13.37\00:37:17.50
according to John Chapter 5 or
the resurrection of damnation.
00:37:17.53\00:37:22.22
Obviously it's
important for us to make sure
00:37:22.25\00:37:25.20
then when we
resurrect by God's grace
00:37:25.23\00:37:27.49
that we raise up in
the first resurrection.
00:37:27.52\00:37:32.04
The second resurrection
00:37:32.07\00:37:33.83
there is no hope
in that resurrection
00:37:33.86\00:37:36.86
because the Bible calls
the resurrection of damnation
00:37:36.89\00:37:39.69
and that's what leads people
00:37:39.72\00:37:40.98
to what is
called the second death.
00:37:41.01\00:37:42.99
So reiterate for those of
you who have not been with us
00:37:43.02\00:37:45.74
in the seminar the Bible
has two deaths, how many?
00:37:45.77\00:37:48.93
Two death, the first
death and the second death.
00:37:48.96\00:37:52.20
The second death
is the eternal death,
00:37:52.23\00:37:54.32
the first death it's
only a pause all of us if we--
00:37:54.35\00:37:58.70
if we don't see the
Lord coming in our day
00:37:58.73\00:38:01.62
we'll have to die, is that true?
00:38:01.65\00:38:04.31
As much as we were like to live,
00:38:04.34\00:38:05.95
if the Lord doesn't
return before we die,
00:38:05.98\00:38:08.50
we will go to our graves.
00:38:08.53\00:38:10.24
The good and the
bad go to the graves,
00:38:10.27\00:38:12.71
therefore this death is
only a temporary period,
00:38:12.74\00:38:16.38
in another words it
is not the punishment,
00:38:16.41\00:38:18.31
it is something that happens
to the good and to the bad.
00:38:18.34\00:38:21.35
It is the eternal death that
we are to be concerned about
00:38:21.38\00:38:24.38
and that's
called the second death,
00:38:24.41\00:38:25.71
what is it
called? The second death.
00:38:25.74\00:38:27.71
My friends, if it's a
death and it's a death.
00:38:27.74\00:38:30.29
It's not the second
life, it's the second death.
00:38:30.32\00:38:35.16
It is the second life
for those who love Jesus
00:38:35.19\00:38:38.06
and those who are
converted and saved.
00:38:38.09\00:38:40.36
Jonah himself,
when he was caught
00:38:40.39\00:38:43.64
in his
situation fleeing from God
00:38:43.67\00:38:47.43
and the scripture says
that a whale swallowed him
00:38:47.46\00:38:50.25
or a big fish swallowed him.
00:38:50.28\00:38:52.30
He began to pray,
00:38:52.33\00:38:53.38
now I want you to
notice the wording here
00:38:53.41\00:38:55.32
"And said, I cried by reason of
mine affliction unto the Lord,
00:38:55.35\00:38:59.66
he heard me out of
the belly of hell cried I,
00:38:59.69\00:39:03.68
and thou heardest my voice."
00:39:03.71\00:39:05.55
So as for as Jonah was
concerned where was he?
00:39:05.58\00:39:08.84
Well, he was in hell.
00:39:08.87\00:39:09.96
Now let me ask you a question,
00:39:09.99\00:39:11.68
do you think was
hot inside there?
00:39:11.71\00:39:13.68
Yes. Yes or no?
00:39:13.71\00:39:15.25
Yes. Yes or no?
00:39:15.28\00:39:16.73
Yes. Of course, it's hot.
00:39:16.76\00:39:18.84
If you're inside the stomach
of a fish and those juices
00:39:18.87\00:39:23.18
are trying to cook
you up it's pretty hot,
00:39:23.21\00:39:25.32
what do you say?
00:39:25.35\00:39:26.50
Yes or no? Yes.
00:39:26.53\00:39:28.20
Hey, listen what do
you have in your stomach,
00:39:28.23\00:39:29.59
don't you have
something cooks up the food,
00:39:29.62\00:39:32.03
we have acid.
00:39:32.06\00:39:33.45
And that acid what does it do?
00:39:33.48\00:39:35.22
It actually cooks up
the food, doesn't it?
00:39:35.25\00:39:38.32
Well, listen, if you're
inside the belly of a fish
00:39:38.35\00:39:42.18
and it gets pretty hot in there
you feel like, you are where?
00:39:42.21\00:39:45.47
You're in hell. As far
as, Jonah was concerned.
00:39:45.50\00:39:48.36
So he cried out of hell,
00:39:48.39\00:39:50.51
so that helps us to understand
00:39:50.54\00:39:52.19
that Jonah believed
that he had been buried.
00:39:52.22\00:39:55.31
That he had been what? Buried.
00:39:55.34\00:39:57.65
And he was in the grave
as it were, buried alive.
00:39:57.68\00:40:01.34
And he begins to
cry to God for mercy
00:40:01.37\00:40:03.78
and God did something
so that whale spewed out
00:40:03.81\00:40:06.78
and that fish spewed out,
Jonah and Jonah then lived.
00:40:06.81\00:40:11.96
And so that's why
John 3:16 reminds us
00:40:11.99\00:40:14.44
that eternal life is giving
to those who believe in Christ.
00:40:14.47\00:40:18.26
"For God so love the world,"
00:40:18.29\00:40:19.39
again "that He gave
His only begotten Son,
00:40:19.42\00:40:21.08
that whosoever believeth
in him should not" what?
00:40:21.11\00:40:23.99
"Perish, but have
everlasting life."
00:40:24.02\00:40:26.50
And so as I said before
00:40:26.53\00:40:27.97
it doesn't say should not
continue to perish or perishing
00:40:28.00\00:40:31.83
but rather should
not perish period.
00:40:31.86\00:40:34.30
And-- and you can now see then
00:40:34.33\00:40:36.84
that the Bible
is clear concerning
00:40:36.87\00:40:40.00
this particular aspect
of what happens to people
00:40:40.03\00:40:43.43
when they die.
00:40:43.46\00:40:46.20
Notice that again the
scripture speaks about
00:40:46.23\00:40:48.55
in Matthew 25:46, it says,
00:40:48.58\00:40:50.91
"These shall go away
into everlasting" what?
00:40:50.94\00:40:54.02
"Punishment."
00:40:54.05\00:40:55.08
Now notice it doesn't
say everlasting punishing.
00:40:55.11\00:40:58.87
It says
"everlasting punishment."
00:40:58.90\00:41:01.47
So which is the everlasting
the person or the punishment?
00:41:01.50\00:41:05.81
The punishment.
00:41:05.84\00:41:06.87
So if you punish
it is everlasting.
00:41:06.90\00:41:11.05
How many of you have
been punished, any of you?
00:41:11.08\00:41:14.97
How many of you
remember being punished?
00:41:15.00\00:41:17.16
As far as you're concerned
it's everlasting, right,
00:41:17.19\00:41:19.25
yes or no?
00:41:19.28\00:41:21.21
Boy with mother
came out with her belt
00:41:21.24\00:41:23.51
and she whipped
that belt around me
00:41:23.54\00:41:25.49
I knew that I had been punished.
00:41:25.52\00:41:28.65
And it's still
recorded in my mind
00:41:28.68\00:41:31.73
and sometimes when I remember
00:41:31.76\00:41:33.25
I feel the-- right, everlasting.
00:41:33.28\00:41:36.54
In another words the
affect has done its job
00:41:36.57\00:41:40.26
the punishment
has accomplished it.
00:41:40.29\00:41:42.89
But the righteous into what?
00:41:42.92\00:41:45.40
Eternal what? Life eternal.
00:41:45.43\00:41:47.89
Can you see that?
00:41:47.92\00:41:49.13
So some go into
everlasting punishing
00:41:49.16\00:41:51.59
and some into everlasting life.
00:41:51.62\00:41:53.65
So its everlasting punishment
not everlasting punishing.
00:41:53.68\00:41:58.87
Are you clear about that so for?
00:41:58.90\00:42:01.23
All right, then
the same is the way
00:42:01.26\00:42:05.48
we do with capital punishment
when people do something wrong
00:42:05.51\00:42:08.44
and they have killed
somebody you know, Wichita,
00:42:08.47\00:42:10.89
here you had
somebody who perpetrated
00:42:10.92\00:42:13.15
and committed some
atrocities, is that true?
00:42:13.18\00:42:15.21
Yeah.
00:42:15.24\00:42:17.07
BTK you know what
I'm talking about?
00:42:17.10\00:42:19.51
Man who stalk woman and
then did all sorts of atrocities
00:42:19.54\00:42:24.04
to those women
and then killed them.
00:42:24.07\00:42:25.64
We who are wicked and
we are sinners, aren't we?
00:42:28.88\00:42:33.43
Still have
mercy even on somebody
00:42:33.46\00:42:37.35
who has
perpetrated such atrocities.
00:42:37.38\00:42:40.70
What do I mean by that?
00:42:40.73\00:42:42.91
I can guarantee
you that the state
00:42:42.94\00:42:45.14
does not have that man
tied to some stick or something
00:42:45.17\00:42:49.60
and peeling him
apart bit by bit.
00:42:49.63\00:42:53.21
I can guarantee you
that the state has not--
00:42:53.24\00:42:55.83
does not have that
fellow being put in the rack
00:42:55.86\00:42:58.48
and being pull apart
for what he has done.
00:42:58.51\00:43:01.74
We are far more merciful
than that, isn't that true?
00:43:05.35\00:43:08.48
And when people who perpetrate
terrible, horrible things--
00:43:08.51\00:43:11.87
in some states we have what
is called a capital punishment
00:43:11.90\00:43:14.90
which means that it's either
00:43:14.93\00:43:16.60
the electric chair
or it's an injection.
00:43:16.63\00:43:19.12
In other words we
cannot come to the place
00:43:19.15\00:43:21.85
where we want to
keep somebody alive just--
00:43:21.88\00:43:24.85
just wallowing in
his pain and all that
00:43:24.88\00:43:28.63
and we just stand there and
enjoy seeing somebody suffer.
00:43:28.66\00:43:31.92
We're not like that, are we? No.
00:43:31.95\00:43:34.98
We think that somebody has done
that the most merciful thing is
00:43:35.01\00:43:37.99
to bring their life to seize.
00:43:38.02\00:43:41.51
But listen, listen
to what's happening
00:43:41.54\00:43:43.89
people are considering
God to be a far greater tyrant
00:43:43.92\00:43:48.42
and sadistic
than human beings are.
00:43:48.45\00:43:53.25
For if people
were to burn forever
00:43:53.28\00:43:55.39
who would keep
them alive forever.
00:43:55.42\00:43:56.78
God.
00:43:56.81\00:43:57.97
God would have to
keep them alive forever.
00:43:58.00\00:44:00.58
And I don't believe that
we serve that kind of a God.
00:44:00.61\00:44:03.27
I believe that ultimately
00:44:03.30\00:44:04.46
God will have to
bring an end to sin.
00:44:04.49\00:44:06.82
And if people
attach themselves to sin
00:44:06.85\00:44:08.63
and God has to destroy
sin I believe then that God
00:44:08.66\00:44:12.00
when He's destroys sin
the sinner will be destroyed.
00:44:12.03\00:44:14.96
But that's not God's
desire, what do you say?
00:44:14.99\00:44:17.95
All right, then "If
the dead then are dead then
00:44:17.98\00:44:21.67
what about the apparitions
who appear to the living?"
00:44:21.70\00:44:24.94
Spiritism is increasing greatly
00:44:29.86\00:44:32.59
in our country
and around the world.
00:44:32.62\00:44:36.41
The psychics et cetera.
00:44:36.44\00:44:41.57
I remember a girl who came to me
00:44:41.60\00:44:42.90
and wanted to get baptized
00:44:42.93\00:44:44.67
and I asked why do
you want to get baptized?
00:44:44.70\00:44:46.16
She said "because
spirits are appearing in my home
00:44:46.19\00:44:48.51
and I want to get rid of them.
00:44:48.54\00:44:49.57
And somebody told me
00:44:49.60\00:44:50.63
if I get baptized I
get rid of the spirits."
00:44:50.66\00:44:54.40
She actually saw
demons in her home.
00:44:54.43\00:44:58.50
I said, "My sister,
00:44:58.53\00:45:00.35
baptism isn't some
magical mystical portion
00:45:00.38\00:45:03.99
just like hanging up a cross
and the Dracula moves away.
00:45:04.02\00:45:09.32
Baptism is a
matter of demonstrating
00:45:09.35\00:45:11.32
that something has
taking place in my heart
00:45:11.35\00:45:14.53
and the persons
committing themselves to Christ.
00:45:14.56\00:45:18.22
There is no magical
portion in baptism."
00:45:18.25\00:45:22.78
So I had to teach her then.
00:45:22.81\00:45:25.01
Well, I was in
Palau, our Palauan islands
00:45:25.04\00:45:28.76
we're having what it's called
a Week of Prayer for the school
00:45:28.79\00:45:31.62
and they asked me to speak.
00:45:31.65\00:45:32.93
I was a pastor of the island
00:45:32.96\00:45:34.68
and had the lot
of responsibilities.
00:45:34.71\00:45:37.38
We had the academy
which is a high school
00:45:37.41\00:45:39.28
and we had an elementary school,
00:45:39.31\00:45:41.59
plus we had the church.
00:45:41.62\00:45:43.30
I had 600 members
and I had a lot of--
00:45:43.33\00:45:45.25
lot of responsibilities.
00:45:45.28\00:45:46.91
But they asked me to do
00:45:46.94\00:45:47.97
the week of
prayer so I consented.
00:45:48.00\00:45:50.56
As I began to
preach by the second night
00:45:50.59\00:45:54.38
the girl stand in
the dorm began to scream.
00:45:54.41\00:46:00.33
They saw a woman
dressed in white in their dorm.
00:46:00.36\00:46:04.90
And they were screaming
00:46:04.93\00:46:05.96
because they had
never seen that before.
00:46:05.99\00:46:08.35
And of course the
girl's dean was so frightened
00:46:08.38\00:46:10.51
that she locked the girls in
00:46:10.54\00:46:11.82
and she wouldn't come out
to find out what's going on.
00:46:11.85\00:46:15.79
The next day we
discovered what had happened.
00:46:15.82\00:46:19.62
We also discovered that
the boys dorm was up above
00:46:19.65\00:46:23.67
and when they
heard the girl screaming
00:46:23.70\00:46:25.11
they thought this is silly,
00:46:25.14\00:46:26.80
you know, silly girls
what they're screaming about.
00:46:26.83\00:46:30.61
Well, the girls are
screaming "buddy murder"
00:46:30.64\00:46:32.64
but no one even was helping them
00:46:32.67\00:46:33.77
so they just
screamed all night long.
00:46:33.80\00:46:36.64
Finally, we
discovered what taking place
00:46:36.67\00:46:39.87
and so my wife then
slept with the girls.
00:46:39.90\00:46:43.02
She said, "girls,
I'll sleep with you
00:46:43.05\00:46:44.75
and the Lord
will take care of us."
00:46:44.78\00:46:47.71
Well the next night
what do you supposed happen?
00:46:47.74\00:46:50.36
The apparition
appeared at the boy's dorm.
00:46:50.39\00:46:53.51
And now it was
their turn to scream.
00:46:53.54\00:46:57.37
So they were screaming
and there was a Korean boy
00:46:57.40\00:47:00.71
who was a Buddhist
00:47:00.74\00:47:01.86
who didn't believe
any of those things,
00:47:01.89\00:47:03.09
he's not hocus focus, you know.
00:47:03.12\00:47:05.00
And when he saw
the boys screaming
00:47:05.03\00:47:06.45
he just laughed at
them, he laughed at them.
00:47:06.48\00:47:09.92
His name was, Yu.
00:47:09.95\00:47:12.72
And so the next day
the word came me to that
00:47:12.75\00:47:15.63
the apparition had
appeared in the boy's dorm
00:47:15.66\00:47:18.21
and the boys
were scared to death.
00:47:18.24\00:47:20.01
So I said, "Okay
boys, I'll sleep with you
00:47:20.04\00:47:22.46
and my wife will sleep
with the girls tonight."
00:47:22.49\00:47:26.29
The next day in broad daylight,
00:47:26.32\00:47:29.60
the whole school hears Yu
00:47:29.63\00:47:32.27
running with his hair
sticking up in the air.
00:47:32.30\00:47:37.77
He saw the woman
dressed in white.
00:47:37.80\00:47:42.36
And that boy was pale.
00:47:42.39\00:47:44.97
And I guarantee you
he wasn't laughing now.
00:47:45.00\00:47:48.37
He saw the thing.
00:47:48.40\00:47:50.95
So I said to the kids
we got a problem here.
00:47:50.98\00:47:57.50
Somebody's inviting the
devil to appear in this place.
00:47:57.53\00:48:03.74
And I said if you want to
get rid of this apparition
00:48:03.77\00:48:06.77
you're gonna have to get
rid of whatever stuff you have
00:48:06.80\00:48:09.52
that is attracting
the devil to our campus.
00:48:09.55\00:48:14.33
I'm not gonna
tell you what it is,
00:48:14.36\00:48:15.45
I said but I'll let you decide.
00:48:15.48\00:48:19.52
And I brought a barrel you know
one of those 50 gallon barrels
00:48:19.55\00:48:24.17
I put outside the dorm.
00:48:24.20\00:48:26.28
And I said okay, we'll wait.
00:48:26.31\00:48:30.69
Well, the students
kind of look at each other
00:48:30.72\00:48:36.20
and decided to go inside.
00:48:36.23\00:48:38.99
They came back
out, they came back out
00:48:39.02\00:48:41.71
with all sorts of stuff
that they had in the dorm.
00:48:41.74\00:48:46.41
They had for example magic balls
00:48:46.44\00:48:50.17
that will give them
the answer to the test.
00:48:50.20\00:48:54.70
They had all sorts
of interesting things
00:48:54.73\00:48:57.16
that they were using
00:48:57.19\00:48:59.08
and you know what
they did with all of that?
00:48:59.11\00:49:01.28
They brought them and
dumped them in the barrel.
00:49:01.31\00:49:04.88
And you know
what we did with it?
00:49:04.91\00:49:06.21
We set fire to it
and may that an offering
00:49:06.24\00:49:09.23
by fire unto the Lord.
00:49:09.26\00:49:12.82
By the way for you young people,
00:49:12.85\00:49:16.32
they took all
their rock and roll music
00:49:16.35\00:49:19.19
and threw them in the
garbage can, they what?
00:49:19.22\00:49:22.88
They took all the
rock and roll music
00:49:22.91\00:49:23.94
and threw in the garbage.
00:49:23.97\00:49:25.00
And now you may say,
00:49:25.03\00:49:26.06
what are you
talking about pastor,
00:49:26.09\00:49:27.12
what's wrong with rock and roll?
00:49:27.15\00:49:28.18
You used to be play with
Bill Haley and the Comets.
00:49:28.21\00:49:29.50
What's the problem with that?
00:49:29.53\00:49:31.37
When I was playing with
Bill Haley and the Comets
00:49:31.40\00:49:33.88
we knew that certain music
00:49:33.91\00:49:36.54
if played that we
have a girl for example.
00:49:36.57\00:49:39.41
If we played certain pieces
00:49:39.44\00:49:40.93
that girl would get
possessed would go into her--
00:49:40.96\00:49:43.79
her convulsions and all
that and would be come posses
00:49:43.82\00:49:46.56
with either a dump
spirit or something else.
00:49:46.59\00:49:49.38
And all it took with
just the play the music.
00:49:49.41\00:49:51.31
What did they take?
Just to play the music.
00:49:51.34\00:49:55.49
And I can tell
you, I can testify
00:49:55.52\00:49:57.36
that I know that
music is used by the devil
00:49:57.39\00:50:01.58
to control the minds of people.
00:50:01.61\00:50:04.07
Did you hear what I've said?
00:50:04.10\00:50:05.95
Now you may find
that kind of interesting
00:50:05.98\00:50:08.55
but my wife and I written a
book called "Notes on Music,"
00:50:08.58\00:50:11.55
if you have any
questions read it.
00:50:11.58\00:50:14.43
But friends, those kids
brought all their stuff out
00:50:14.46\00:50:18.02
dropped it in
there we burned it up
00:50:18.05\00:50:20.14
and the wonderful thing is this.
00:50:20.17\00:50:22.85
Afterwards we never
had another apparition.
00:50:22.88\00:50:28.32
The kids made a
commitment to Christ
00:50:28.35\00:50:30.49
in that wonderful ceremony
00:50:30.52\00:50:33.66
and there was a great
victory in that campus.
00:50:33.69\00:50:37.27
We started out with 60
students that particular year,
00:50:37.30\00:50:41.09
40 of them were not
Christians and 21 were.
00:50:41.12\00:50:44.23
By the time we finished
00:50:44.26\00:50:45.60
they were 40 Christians
and 20 non-Christians.
00:50:45.63\00:50:48.14
In another words
there was a great victory
00:50:48.17\00:50:49.88
in the lives in young people.
00:50:49.91\00:50:52.28
What did they see?
They saw an apparition.
00:50:52.31\00:50:54.68
What's an apparition?
00:50:54.71\00:50:55.96
Nothing more than
an angel who appears
00:50:55.99\00:50:58.61
like a human being especially
a departed human being.
00:50:58.64\00:51:03.61
We know that that's the case
00:51:03.64\00:51:04.79
because even in the
scriptures it happened.
00:51:04.82\00:51:07.77
In 2 Samuel 12:23, King
Saul who departs from God,
00:51:07.80\00:51:14.29
finally the Lord talks to
him and he would not listen
00:51:14.32\00:51:19.83
and finally the Spirit
of God departs from him.
00:51:19.86\00:51:22.68
King David--
well understands this
00:51:22.71\00:51:26.17
because when his son died
00:51:26.20\00:51:28.69
King David just simply was
first of all before he died
00:51:28.72\00:51:32.84
King David was
mourning over the, the fact
00:51:32.87\00:51:35.33
that the child could die
00:51:35.36\00:51:36.39
find out when the child
did die he got up an ate.
00:51:36.42\00:51:39.33
And of course the people
said, "What are you doing,
00:51:39.36\00:51:41.32
getting up and eating now
when your child was the sick
00:51:41.35\00:51:43.84
you were fasting and
praying and weeping and wailing
00:51:43.87\00:51:47.08
and now that he's dead
you're getting up and eating
00:51:47.11\00:51:49.53
that does make any sense?"
00:51:49.56\00:51:50.87
David simply says,
"listen now he is what?"
00:51:50.90\00:51:56.00
"Dead, wherefore should I fast?
Can I bring him back again?
00:51:56.03\00:51:59.26
I shall go to him, but
he shall not return to me."
00:51:59.29\00:52:01.51
In other words, I'm going to die
00:52:01.54\00:52:02.86
and go where he is dead
00:52:02.89\00:52:04.50
but he could never comeback to--
00:52:04.53\00:52:06.50
to me, is that
true, yes or no. Yes.
00:52:06.53\00:52:08.65
Okay, now in
Deuteronomy we're warned
00:52:08.68\00:52:12.94
about the
particular participation
00:52:12.97\00:52:16.01
with spirit tricks et cetera.
00:52:16.04\00:52:18.91
The Bible says, "A
charmer, or a consulter
00:52:18.94\00:52:22.26
with familiar spirits, or
a wizard or a necromancer.
00:52:22.29\00:52:25.38
For all that do
these things are" what?
00:52:25.41\00:52:28.14
"An abomination unto the Lord
00:52:28.17\00:52:29.62
and because of
these abominations
00:52:29.65\00:52:30.99
the Lord thy God does drive
them out from before thee."
00:52:31.02\00:52:35.07
There is no
question in the Bible
00:52:35.10\00:52:37.51
the idea of
dealing with the spirituals
00:52:37.54\00:52:40.46
or dealing with
people who are involved
00:52:40.49\00:52:41.54
with that is not
pleasing to the Lord.
00:52:41.57\00:52:46.47
I had a friend who was a pastor.
00:52:46.50\00:52:50.86
He had a son and the
son develops or contracted
00:52:50.89\00:52:57.36
what it's call leukemia.
00:52:57.39\00:53:00.01
Researching this all
and the son was dying.
00:53:00.04\00:53:03.07
My pastor friend began to
pray and I going ask with God
00:53:03.10\00:53:05.55
and God would save his
son, he was the only boy.
00:53:05.58\00:53:09.41
The son died
and my pastor friend
00:53:09.44\00:53:12.43
went into deep
depression tremendous grief.
00:53:12.46\00:53:16.94
"Oh, God why that
you let my boy die
00:53:16.97\00:53:18.69
I have dedicated
my life to serve You,
00:53:18.72\00:53:20.58
why did You do that."
00:53:20.61\00:53:21.64
Do you understand
the question that come?
00:53:21.67\00:53:24.35
Well, he told us
that two weeks later,
00:53:24.38\00:53:29.95
he was sitting in
his bed again mourning
00:53:29.98\00:53:35.50
over that lost of his son.
00:53:35.53\00:53:38.15
And all of a sudden he
heard the voice of his boy.
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He was standing
right before here
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and the boy was
standing there in full life.
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And said, "dad, you don't
need to cry for me anymore,
00:53:47.54\00:53:53.02
I'm all right.
00:53:53.05\00:53:56.09
Look at me, dad, I am here."
00:53:56.12\00:54:01.42
When the father saw that he had
00:54:01.45\00:54:04.51
a tremendous
battle in his heart.
00:54:04.54\00:54:07.92
The longing that he
had to embrace his son
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and at the same
time the understanding
00:54:11.37\00:54:14.07
he have about the Bible said,
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the Bible says the
dead know, how much?
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Not anything.
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You know, what
that pastor friend did,
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he pointed at
the thing and said,
00:54:24.22\00:54:25.62
get you behind me Satan,
and the thing disappeared.
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What was it?
00:54:32.08\00:54:34.13
There was an evil
angel try to appear
00:54:34.16\00:54:37.25
as the departed loved one.
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My friends, they
know how we think,
00:54:39.21\00:54:40.89
they know what we
look like and they appear
00:54:40.92\00:54:43.61
with the purpose of deceiving us
00:54:43.64\00:54:46.21
and the whole purpose is
to separate us from whom?
00:54:46.24\00:54:49.34
From Christ.
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"A man also or woman
that hath a familiar spirit,
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or that is a wizard,
shall surely be put to" what?
00:54:54.24\00:54:57.09
"To death, they shall
stone them with stones
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their blood shall be upon them."
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My friends, it is
clear from the scriptures
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that when people are
opening themselves up
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to psychics, to
palm breathers et cetera.
00:55:13.76\00:55:19.99
They may not realize so
they're putting themselves
00:55:20.02\00:55:21.99
and contact with
the every enemy himself.
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But listen, Jesus
invites us to accept Him.
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The Bible says, "He
that have the Son have" what?
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"Life, he that have not
to son of God have not life."
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How many of you want
life, can I see your hands?
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And if you want life
then what must you do?
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You must accept Christ
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as your Savior, what do you say?
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Amen.
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You say amen to that? Amen.
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I wondered tonight
there maybe people,
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I'm gonna ask you the deacons
00:55:52.93\00:55:53.96
who pass out some--
some decision cards.
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Could you do that
right now, deacons?
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And I wonder those of
you who are here tonight
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perhaps you have
never understood the choice
00:56:03.06\00:56:06.63
that you need to make
between life and death.
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Perhaps you did not
have confidence in the--
00:56:09.94\00:56:14.34
what the scripture says
but tonight you see a clear
00:56:14.37\00:56:16.75
and you realize that only
in Christ can you have life.
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Can you take one of
these slips of paper
00:56:19.39\00:56:21.83
and can you put
your choice there?
00:56:21.86\00:56:23.71
I decide to accept
Christ as my personal Savior.
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I want Him to be my life,
I want Him to be my Savior.
00:56:27.68\00:56:32.25
I want to be baptized
and commit myself to Him
00:56:32.28\00:56:35.57
and begin a new life in Christ.
00:56:35.60\00:56:37.75
Will you take the
slips of paper right now
00:56:37.78\00:56:39.90
and will you just
place down your decision
00:56:39.93\00:56:42.45
and as you do
make that decision,
00:56:42.48\00:56:44.88
remember you're
making that decision
00:56:44.91\00:56:47.12
between you and
Christ, what do you say?
00:56:47.15\00:56:50.45
Will you prayerfully
consider that decision tonight?
00:56:50.48\00:56:53.54
Will you place
your hope in Christ
00:56:53.57\00:56:55.22
the only one that can save you?
00:56:55.25\00:56:57.24
Will you make Him your Savior?
00:56:57.27\00:56:59.15
Will you make Him your
hope and your salvation.
00:56:59.18\00:57:03.63
Will you place
down there your decision
00:57:03.66\00:57:05.57
I desire to make Christ
00:57:05.60\00:57:07.04
my personal
Savior and to follow Him.
00:57:07.07\00:57:09.61
Shall we pray together,
00:57:09.64\00:57:11.34
our Father, thank You so much
00:57:11.37\00:57:13.63
for the hope that
we have in Christ,
00:57:13.66\00:57:16.03
help us we pray to love Him.
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