I'd like to introduce
my friend, your friend,
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Pastor Steve Wohlberg.
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Steve come on out.
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Thank you. We're thankful
that you were able to come
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on ah... You're kind
of a minuteman. Sure.
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Because you
came on short notice.
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That's right. It's okay.
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And so you were
able to come tonight.
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God has been doing a
lot of things in your life,
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and in your ministry, and
your books that you've written,
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and placing them in maybe new
places that many Christian books
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have not been able to
get into. That's right.
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And especially a number
for our Adventist authors.
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But God is
doing a lot of things.
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I want you to share whatever
is on your heart tonight.
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I know that you have some other
messages that have been really
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near, and dear,
and on your mind also.
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So we just want to thank
you once again from the bottom
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of our hearts for our viewers.
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We know that they love you,
and they support the message
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that you're preaching,
because they tell us about it
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in their letters. And when
we go places they say that we
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appreciate... And how many
of you will let Steve know that
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you'll continue to pray?
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He's on the front lines,
and every hand should go up.
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Because we need to be
praying for our people that's on
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the front lines; on the
battle fields of the Lord.
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Satan is not happy
with Steve Wohlberg.
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Satan would love
to see Steve dead.
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That's all there is to it.
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He wants to see you destroyed
because the message that you
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have been giving over
3ABN, and around the world,
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is exposing him for who he is.
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And that he's
losing ground quickly.
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So we're going to uplift
you, ask God for a continued
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protective hedge about you
and your ministry, that you can
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continue to herald
about the soon coming Savior,
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our Lord Jesus Christ.
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God bless you! Thank you, Danny.
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Well, it is good to be here.
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Good evening
everyone. Good evening!
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I guess I am a minuteman.
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And I certainly
wasn't expecting this.
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Danny called me yesterday
and he said, Can you do it?
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And I said, Well, if you'll fly
me up there, I think I can find
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someone to preach in my
church tomorrow, and I'll come.
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So the Lord worked it all
out and they'd booked my ticket
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before I got off the phone.
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And so here I am, and
I'm just thrilled to be here.
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It's a great privilege to be
on the air, live, and with you,
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and with other people that
are going to be watching this,
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and are watching
this around the world.
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Since we are live, I hope
you don't if I just say hello
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to a few people,
one of whom is my wife.
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My wife Kristin
Wohlberg is not able to be here,
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but she's probably
watching this right now.
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And honey, I love you.
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It's been twelve hours
since we've been apart,
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and I miss you already. Ha ha!
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So I just want to honor my wife.
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And we also have a
little baby eight months old,
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and I think he's awake,
and she's probably holding him
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right up in front of the screen.
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Hi Seth, baby Seth. It's
your Daddy talking to you.
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He is just the
love of our lives.
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And I'm going to share a
little bit more about him.
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I also want to thank my church
at the Templeton Hills Adventist
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Church for allowing me
to take some excursions,
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to leave them for some
time, and to come here.
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I have a great church
there, and we also have a team,
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and we actually have a ministry
called The End of Time Insights.
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We have a radio show,
and we produce TV programs,
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plus a lot of books.
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And we just do a lot of things.
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And we get a lot of responses
from what's on 3ABN a lot.
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And it's just a real joy to us.
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I have a team that I work with.
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Ralph Green is part of
that team, Sherry Labbins,
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and Fran, if you're
watching, we love you, too.
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She'll probably be shocked
to hear her name, Fran McDonald.
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She's a big part of
everything we're doing.
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I've got a lot
to share with you.
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Danny, as I mentioned, called
me yesterday, and he surprised
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me and he said, Come on up.
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You're on the West coast
and we're on the West coast.
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And we'd just like you to come
up in the pinch and do this.
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And he said, Share
what's ever on your heart.
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Tell us what's going
on with your ministry.
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Talk about what God is doing.
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And so I thought about all that.
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And I thought, Well, there
is a lot going on right now,
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and I certainly
have a lot to share.
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So I put together some thoughts,
and I'm going to bring them
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together. And we're going
to have a Bible study as well.
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So if you have a Bible open
your Bible's up to the book of
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Revelation, Revelation 18.
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And the title of my message
is very different from probably
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anything you've ever heard;
you've probably never heard.
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A lot of the evangelists that
are on 3ABN, sometimes we swap
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titles, you know, of our talks.
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But this one nobody has.
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No one's got this title.
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This is going to
be completely unique.
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It's called
Sorcery, Baby Seth, and the
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Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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Have you ever heard that
title before? I doubt it.
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And it will all make
sense when I'm done putting
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all of this together.
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Sorcery, Baby Seth, and
the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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Revelation 18. We're
going to start with verse 1,
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and then we're
going to got to verse 23.
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First we're going to talk
about sorcery, about witchcraft,
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about Wicca witchcraft, which
is a movement in this country,
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and around the world, that
is getting bigger, and bigger,
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and bigger all the time.
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I don't know if
you've heard of it or not,
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but it's out there big time.
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So let's bow our heads and
let's just have a prayer again.
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I know we've already prayed,
but I always like to pray before
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we read from the Bible.
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Dear Heavenly Father,
thank You that I can be here;
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that we're live on 3ABN.
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People are watching
us around the world.
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And we just pray in the
name of Jesus Christ Your Son
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that the Holy Spirit
will be here, and use me,
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and impress people powerfully
with the truth that the Bible,
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and above all with the sacrifice
Father, that You were willing
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to make when You
gave Your Son to die
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for the sins of the world.
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In Jesus' name we pray, Amen.
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Okay, sorcery. If you
look at Revelation 18:1;
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many of you know this verse.
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This verse is talking about
a move of God in the world'
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a burst of light
right before the end.
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Chapter 18, verse 1 says, After
these things I saw another angel
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coming down from heaven having
what? he had great powers.
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Some Bible's
says great authority.
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Power, notice that word power.
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And the earth was
lightened with His glory.
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So here's an angel coming down.
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He's got power
and there's light.
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And the whole earth
is going to be lightened
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with the glory of God;
the glory of this angel.
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And I want to be
part of that, don't you?
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In my whole... my dream
is to be a part of this.
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Now as you read this whole
chapter; chapter 18 tells us
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there's a lot of things in
this world that need light.
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In fact there's
a lot of darkness.
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This whole chapter's
talking about Babylon,
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the deceptions of
Babylon, the fall of Babylon.
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And if you go down to verse 23,
at the very end of this chapter,
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right as Babylon is going down
God says, And the light of a
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candle shall shine
in you no more at all.
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And the voice of the bridegroom,
that's Jesus, and of the bride
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shall be heard no more at
all in you for your merchants...
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A lot of money being made.
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...For your merchants were
the great men of the earth,
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for by your... And what's that
next word? by your sorceries,
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the King James says
and the New King James.
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By your sorceries all the
nations were what? deceived.
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Right. And this is a non-fiction
prophecy predicting that sorcery
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is going to captivate the world.
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And if you go back to ancient
Babylon, sorcery was very much
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a part of Babylon, wasn't it?
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Daniel 2, remember?
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Daniel and all the sorcerers
that couldn't interpret
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the king's
dream, but Daniel could?
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Sorcery is connected to Babylon,
and this verse says that
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the whole world is
going to be deceived by
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the sorcery of Babylon.
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If you look at chapter
21, verse 8, Revelation 21:8.
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Here's another
passage about sorcery.
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Revelation 21:8 says, The
fearful, and the unbelieving,
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and the abominable, and the
murderers, and the whoremongers,
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and the... And what kind
of people are mentioned here?
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It says the sorcerers, right.
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It's sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars shall have their
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part in the lake which
burns with fire and brimstone,
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which is the second death.
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So sorcerers; this is going
to be a big category of people
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at the end of time.
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If you go to chapter 22,
the last chapter of the Bible,
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the very last chapter.
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If you look at verse 14 it talks
about those who keeps God's
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commandments, and
they go into the city.
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Verse 15 says, for without,
or on the outside of the city,
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are dogs, it says.
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And then what's the
next group mentioned there?
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Sorcerers, okay?
What does your Bible say?
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I heard those
who practice magic.
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Any of your
Bibles say witchcraft?
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Okay. Well, practice
magic, sorcery, alright.
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And then if you keep reading
it lists other kinds of people:
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whoremongers,
murderers, idolaters,
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and whoever
loves and makes a lie.
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And these people are
outside of the New Jerusalem.
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So chapter 18 talks
about the sorcery of Babylon
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deceiving the world.
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Chapter 21 talks about sorcerers
going into the lake of fire,
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and chapter 22 talks about
sorcery and sorcerers being
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outside of the city of God;
outside of the New Jerusalem.
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And so when you put these
pieces together it's very clear
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that sorcery is a major player,
isn't it in the end times?
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And there's other
verses in Revelation that I
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haven't looked up.
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There's quite a few
in the Bible about this.
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My little baby, our little baby,
is probably still watching us
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right now. I don't
think he can understand this,
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but at least he can
recognize his father's voice.
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He was born in July
of last year, July 22nd.
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He's in his
eighth month right now.
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A couple of months before
he was born, my wife and I were
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sitting in a lobby of a medical
center not far from our house.
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And we were waiting for her
appointment with her OB-GYN,
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who was
monitoring her pregnancy.
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And as we sat there waiting,
you know, twiddling our thumbs,
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and reading a
parenting magazine or something,
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waiting for the
nurse to call her in,
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the door opened and a
woman walked in who was probably
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in her, I don't
know, mid-twenties.
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She had long dark hair.
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She was dressed in black,
which was a little bit unusual
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for a Spring day in May.
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And she was carrying a book
with a full moon on the cover.
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And she sat
right in front of us.
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And I tried not to,
you know, stare at her.
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I tried not to look too
conspicuous, but I just glanced
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at her, and I saw her reading
this book with the moon on it;
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full moon. And as I just watched
this, you know, the wheels were
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turning in my mind.
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And within a couple of minutes
the lady stuck her head through
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the door and
said, Kristin Wohlburg,
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it's time for your appointment.
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And so we got up, and as
we walked toward the door I
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glanced back at this
lady, and I noticed that she was
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wearing a necklace with a
five pointed star with a circle
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around it, which is called
a pentacle or a pentagram.
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Now I can't say for sure
that she was a practicing witch,
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but I can tell you that
the signs definitely fit;
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the signs definitely fit.
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I don't know how many of
you are aware of this right now,
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but there is a movement
growing in this country,
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and around the world, and
it's called Wicca Witchcraft.
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How many of you
are familiar with this?
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Let me just see some hands.
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Okay, about half of you.
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It is really getting big.
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It really started spiking in the
1990's and into the year 2000.
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There are, I hate to say
this, but there are kids,
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even under ten, and there
are teens and young adults
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around the country, and around
the world, that are visiting
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popular witchcraft websites.
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And there's a lot
of them out there.
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More than you would want
to know about, or any of them.
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They are buying spell books on
the internet fast, rapid-fire.
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They are mixing potions, they're
joining covens, and they are
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learning how to practice magic.
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This movement was really...
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It's become so big that
in the year 2004, last year,
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it was actually
noticed by the media.
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And report
after report came out,
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including National Public Radio.
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They did a big story.
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I don't know if
any of you heard it.
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It was on the show,
All Things Considered,
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which is a big huge radio show.
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It was coast to coast, twenty
minutes, and it was called,
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Teens and Wicca, Teens and
Wicca, May 2004 talking about
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the growth of witchcraft and how
so many kids, that parents don't
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even know it. They're
hiding underneath their beds.
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They're hiding little
altars, little candles, books.
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And they're learning
how to practice magic
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in their bedrooms.
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And that's just
the tip of the iceberg.
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The kind of people that are
practicing Wicca are not people
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that are on the fringe
that you would think, you know,
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people kind of way out there,
but they are mainstream people.
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They are doctors, and lawyers,
and sales people, mechanics,
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teachers, students,
CEO's, secretaries, house wives;
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just about
anybody in our society.
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It's just, it's all
the way across the board.
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Wicca Witchcraft is now
recognized by the United States
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Federal Government as
a legitimate religion.
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There is a strong
presence in the military.
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My wife has a cousin who now
he's actually out of the country
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but he used to be at Fort Hood.
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And there's a strong presence
of Wicca there in the military
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right at Fort Hood.
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And it is really big on high
school and college campuses.
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I've got a number
of books up here that
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I'm just going to reference.
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This one... Now I'm not
recommending that you read
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these books, but I have
done a lot of research on this,
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because God has led me; He's
led me into a lot of different
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areas in my life.
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And in the last year or
so He has unexpectedly led
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me into this arena
to do research on this.
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I have a new book that just came
out called, Hour of the Witch,
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where we talk all about this.
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We have a TV series
actually that we produced,
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and it's being edited
now, that deals with this.
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This book, Rocking
the Goddess, just came out
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just a couple years ago,
and it says, Campus Wicca
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for the student practitioner.
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And at the back of this
book there's a whole list of
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countries around the world,
and universities, and college
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all throughout the United
States, coast to coast, that
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have pagan student associations:
Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky,
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Louisiana, Michigan,
Massachusetts, California.
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They're all
listed here: New York.
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And it lists all these different
colleges and universities that
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have pagan student associations
where kids are coming together
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and under the umbrella of
permission from the faculty,
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are learning
about Wicca Witchcraft.
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And this is what
this is talking about.
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It says on the back here that
Wicca is now one of the fastest
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growing religions
in the United States,
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especially among
college students.
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So we're talking
about something big.
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I remember when I
was in high school,
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North Hollywood High School.
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This was, Oh how long ago?
77, that's when I graduated.
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So you can date me now.
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I'm forty-five. Ha ha.
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Forty-five: hair's still
getting greyer by the day.
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But anyway, when I was in high
school, North Hollywood High.
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I wasn't raised
in a Christian home.
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I never went to Academy.
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I remember back in those
days, and Elly Valley College
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for two years before I went to
La Sierra, that there were a lot
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of things going on
on the public campuses.
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There was a lot of drugs,
there were gangs, there were...
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All kinds of
things were happening.
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But as far as witchcraft, I
mean there wasn't any witchcraft
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that I was aware of.
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We never heard that name.
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We never heard the word Wicca.
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None of the friends that I knew,
that this just wasn't there.
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But times have
completely changed.
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Just last, was it maybe, I
think it was two weeks ago,
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I was in Missouri.
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No, it was just last
weekend. Boy, time files.
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Last weekend I was in Missouri,
and I held, I did a series
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of meetings for the
Mid America ASI Conference,
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at a little town
called Hollister.
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And there was a girl that
was coming to the meeting.
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She was part of a family.
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She was fifteen years old.
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And as we were sitting around
the table talking she said
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to me that she has a friend,
and she goes to public school.
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And she said one of her
friends is really into Wicca.
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And so she's wondering
how do I reach this person?
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How do I pray for
them? What do I do?
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One of my church
members said they saw a
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license plate of a car.
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It drove right by the church on
the way to church one morning.
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And it said 100% Wiccan.
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Another group of our church
members go to a local prison
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and they minister to
people in the prison.
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And one of the ladies told
me that there's a license plate
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she always sees there, about
Wicca that's there from somebody
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that either works at
the prison or goes there.
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And it's there all the time.
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There's a lady that
I know that I baptized.
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Her name is Shea.
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She was coming to our meetings.
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We had Bible studies.
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She eventually
accepted Jesus into her heart,
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and she was baptized. And she
told me later on that she had
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come And she told me later on
that she had come out of Wicca,
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or at least that was one of
the things that she was into
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in her BC days; in
her days before Christ.
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I like to call it my BC days
before I became a Christian.
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And once I discovered that I
said to her, I said, Hey, Shea,
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We're doing a
documentary on this topic.
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We're gathering
information for television.
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And could we
interview you on this?
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And she said to me, I'll
never forget it, she said, Well,
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it's a little bit of a drive
for me to get to where you're
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going to be filming.
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And she said,
I've got a better idea.
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She said, I've
got a friend of mine.
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Her name is Diana,
and she is a real witch.
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And she said, You
don't want to interview me.
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Why don't you interview her?
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So she e-mailed me her phone
number, Diana's phone number.
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She said, Give her a call.
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And how did she say it?
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She said, She's a
kick. You'll love her.
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That's what she said.
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She's a kick. You'll love her.
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So I thought okay. Wow!
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I had this phone number.
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I prayed about, and I finally
decided to give her a call.
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So I talked to
her one afternoon.
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We talked on the
phone for an hour.
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And in the course of
the conversation we talked
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about a lot of things.
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And I had a chance to share my
faith in Jesus with this woman.
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She asked me a lot of questions.
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I told her about the book, The
Desire of Ages, and what that
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book had done for me; how
Christ had changed my life,
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bringing me out of
Hollywood, out of drugs,
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and out of a lot of things.
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And when we were done with
the conversation she said to me,
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she said, Steve, I would
really like to read that book,
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that Desire of Ages on
the life of Jesus Christ.
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And I said, Sure, I'd
love to give that to you.
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And I asked her if
we could pray together.
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And so I prayed a prayer
to a loving God in the name of
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Jesus Christ for this
woman who who is practicing
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Wicca witchcraft.
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There's a lot of people
out there just like her;
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people that are searching,
people that are confused,
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people that are
trying to find answers,
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and they are
exploring this religion.
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Now why is this happening?
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What's happening in our country?
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Why are so many people
getting into this these days?
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I'm going to give
you three reasons:
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1. Hollywood. Hollywood,
television programs, and movies
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that are glorifying magic.
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2. The internet, the
proliferation of the internet,
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and the ease by which people
can just type in some witchcraft
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address, and they can go
right on a witchcraft website
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and learn all about
spells, and potions, and magic.
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3. The proliferation of books
that are pouring off the press
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right now, all about
witchcraft and magic.
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And a lot of them are for kids.
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As far as television goes,
Sabrina the Teenage Witch...
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This is a big series.
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Kids have watched it all around.
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And it's about magic: this
woman who has magical powers.
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Another one is
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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Have you heard of that one?
00:21:11.04\00:21:12.07
It was one of the
biggest, hottest shows
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that ever came out.
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A lot of young
people watched that show.
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Buffy has a
friend in the series.
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Her name is Willow,
nicknamed the Willow Witch.
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And there's an internet
site that, the official site,
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that talks about her.
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And she's listed in her
bio as student and witch.
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And she's become a
role model for kids.
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Another series is
called the Charmed series;
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if you've ever heard of that.
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One time I was
down at my mother's.
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And my mother's not a Christian.
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And she had a big TV
there in the living room,
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and the Charmed series was on.
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So I just, you
know, kinda glanced at it.
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And I'd done
some reading about it.
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It's about three sorceress
sisters who practice magic,
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and they fight against evil.
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They're supposedly good witches.
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And they're very;
these witches are very sexy,
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and beautiful, and powerful.
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Now when you
think of the word witch,
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what do most of you think of?
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You think of, okay,
Danny says, you know,
00:22:05.14\00:22:07.46
the big hat, the black hat.
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You probably think of an
old hag with a long nose,
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and a wart on the nose.
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You know, that's kind of the
view that a lot of Christians
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have of witchcraft.
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Well, I tell you, times
have completely changed.
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I've got a book
here and it's called
00:22:20.93\00:22:23.28
The Truth About
Witchcraft Today.
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If you can see the
picture of that girl on there,
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she's a young
woman, sexy, professional.
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She's got her suit on.
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And this book is
all about witchcraft.
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The witches of today are
young, and sexy, and powerful.
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They have a total
facelift compared to the way
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they used to be portrayed.
00:22:43.12\00:22:44.15
Another movie called
The Craft came out in 1996
00:22:44.18\00:22:47.03
about four
witches in high school.
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That was really big.
00:22:49.25\00:22:50.28
Another one is The
Witches of Eastwick.
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Cher was in that film.
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Practical magic with Sandra
Bullock; that's another one.
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And, of course, above all
is the Harry Potter series.
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Harry Potter, these
books, there's seven
00:23:01.84\00:23:04.87
books in the series.
00:23:04.90\00:23:05.93
And Warner Brothers has
committed to making seven
00:23:05.96\00:23:09.09
moves based on each book.
00:23:09.12\00:23:11.45
So far five books have come out.
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The sixth book
is on the horizon.
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It's coming out in July.
00:23:15.09\00:23:16.12
Maybe you saw
the NBC Today show.
00:23:16.57\00:23:19.36
They had an unveiling just
about a week ago of the cover
00:23:19.39\00:23:22.85
of the next Harry Potter book.
00:23:22.88\00:23:24.23
And I mean they did
it with big fanfare.
00:23:24.26\00:23:26.64
And when July 16 comes this
coming summer, it's going to be
00:23:26.67\00:23:30.05
national, it's
going to be global news.
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There are no series of
books that have been published
00:23:32.66\00:23:36.74
that have sold more.
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They sold over
260 million copies.
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Harry Potter, about a
young boy who's a sorcerer,
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going to a wizard school called
Hogwart School of Witchcraft
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and Wizardry, learning how
to develop his magical powers,
00:23:48.41\00:23:51.13
and who fights evil
with the flick of a wand.
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That's Harry Potter.
00:23:53.28\00:23:54.81
So far there's five books out.
00:23:54.84\00:23:56.23
I mentioned the next
one's coming in July.
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The next movie;
there's three movies out.
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The fourth one is
coming out in November.
00:23:59.93\00:24:01.71
And there's four more
movies on the horizon.
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So this thing is going to
be around for a long time.
00:24:03.74\00:24:06.71
And what's happening is
a lot of kids are watching
00:24:06.74\00:24:08.44
Harry Potter, and reading
his books, and it's very easy
00:24:08.47\00:24:10.97
to take the next step from
the fantasy world of Harry,
00:24:11.00\00:24:13.53
to the real world
of Wicca witchcraft.
00:24:13.56\00:24:15.53
And I tell you, a lot of
kids are doing just that.
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That is exactly
what's happening now.
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Then the internet; I
mentioned all the websites
00:24:20.99\00:24:23.29
that are out there.
00:24:23.32\00:24:24.35
And then as far as books;
I've showed you just a couple
00:24:24.38\00:24:26.34
of these books. I've
got three of them up here.
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I'm going to give you a website.
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I'm going to tell you a website
where you can go on there
00:24:32.25\00:24:35.12
and you can find hundreds
of books about witchcraft,
00:24:35.15\00:24:38.94
and sorcery, and Wicca.
00:24:38.97\00:24:40.93
And you're not going to believe
the name of this website.
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You don't have to go to a New
Age bookstore in San Francisco.
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All you have to do is go
onto the computer and type in
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www. Wal-Mart. com
It's all you have to do.
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Wal-Mart. com, and you'll find
hundreds of titles that deal...
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Try it! Type in
Wicca on Wal-Mart. com
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Type in witch,
type in witchcraft.
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You'll see all these books:
The Truth About Witchcraft.
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You'll see Rocking the Goddess.
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And you'll see this
book called, Teen Witch,
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Wicca for a new generation.
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Here you can see five
teenagers on the front.
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This book is written by a
lady named Silver Ravenwolf,
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who is a practicing witch.
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This book is for teenagers.
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The first chapter is a
chapter written for parents,
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so when the kid
comes home with this book,
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and the Mom or
the Dad is concerned,
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the child can give this
book to the parents and say,
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Read the first chapter.
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And Silver talks to the parents.
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She, this lady,
is a mother of four.
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She does not believe
in smoking, no drinking.
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She has high moral standards.
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She does not
believe in immoral sex.
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And she's a witch.
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She's a best selling author.
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She's been interviewed
by the New York Times.
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And she used to be a Baptist.
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And she tells her story in this
book; how she left the Christian
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religion and
shifted to the craft.
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And her testimony is
being duplicated by teenagers
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all over this country right now.
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Now I don't have time to go
into the details of what this
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religion is all about.
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It's in the TV
series; it's in the book,
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and there's
just, there's so much.
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But I can tell you
one surprising thing.
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Most people when they
think of witches today,
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they think of people
that, you know, they go,
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they're real scary, they paint
their faces, and some of them
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do, but most of them don't.
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And they drink blood,
and they sacrifice animals,
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and things like that.
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Isn't that what
most people think?
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And they worship the devil.
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They worship the
devil, but guess what?
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I'll tell you,
witches, modern Wiccan's don't
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even believe in Satan.
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They don't believe there's
a devil at all out there.
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And that's one of the dangers.
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They believe that
nature has a lot of energy,
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and they call people to nature.
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They say get out in nature.
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Spend time out
there in the country.
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And that's not a
bad thing, is it?
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Get out into the country?
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And they offer people
power, spiritual power.
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And don't we
need spiritual power?
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I mean if I told you about
a religion that invites you to
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come to the country
to connect with nature;
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how you can find spiritual
fulfillment, satisfaction,
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and how you can connect with
the power source that will help
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you in your life, and get
you out of things that are bad
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and direct you in
things that are good,
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wouldn't that sound good?
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Well, guess what, that's what
Wicca witchcraft claims to do.
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Exactly that. That's
exactly what it's saying.
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They feel that nature has
energy, and that they can tap
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into that energy, and
then they can channel it
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for good purposes.
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Good purposes, like
help you with your homework,
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help you with your love life,
help you with your finances,
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all kinds of practical things.
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Modern witchcraft is
called white witchcraft.
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Wicca witchcraft
is called white magic.
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And Silver Ravenwolf says,
I don't want anything to do
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with anything that is dark.
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Nothing that's evil.
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I only want to be involved
in things that are positive,
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and wholesome, and
healthy, and healing.
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That's what they're saying.
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That's what they're teaching.
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Now open your Bibles to
the book of Acts 26, Acts 26.
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And let me share with you
something extremely important.
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Where's my little book on this?
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This little book, The
Truth About Witchcraft Today,
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has a very
significant statement.
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As I mentioned, Wiccan's
don't believe in the devil.
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They believe that the
universe is full of power,
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and that they can tap
into that power and channel it
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for good purposes.
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And this is what it says here.
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This is one of these
little books about witchcraft.
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It says, The power at work
in folk magic is just that.
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It is power. It is
neither positive nor negative.
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It is neither good nor evil.
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It is the intention and the
goal of the magician working
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with the power that determines
whether it is used for
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helpful or harmful ends.
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So, basically they're
saying that power that's
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out there in the
universe is a neutral power.
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And if you tap into it, and
channel it for good purposes,
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you're a good witch.
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That's what they're saying.
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That's the philosophy.
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Now if you look at your Bible,
Acts 26, and if you look at the
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18th verse, the Bible...
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This is a very
significant passage.
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According to the Bible
there's not just one power out
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there that is neutral.
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How many powers are
out there? two powers.
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Acts 26:18. Jesus told
Paul that He was sending him out
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into the darkness of the world,
He said, to open their eyes
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and to turn them
from darkness to light,
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and from the power of who?
from the power of Satan to God.
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Right. The
power of Satan to God.
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According to the Bible
there are two powers out there,
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and these two
powers are both personal,
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they're both intelligent.
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One of them is perfectly moral,
and holy, and loving, and good.
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And the other one is
totally wicked, and malicious,
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and destructive, and
deceptive, and subtle.
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And that is the
power of the devil.
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And we are in the midst of
a power struggle right now,
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aren't we?
Between the two powers.
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And I praise the Lord
that 3ABN is a major channel
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for the right
power in this world.
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Two powers. Now
don't we all need power?
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Don't fallen
human beings need power?
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We do. We all need power.
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And Wicca is
offering people power.
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But the problem is that because
Wicca witchcraft doesn't believe
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in the devil, when they tap into
power that they think is neutral
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and try to channel that to good
purposes, they don't realize
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that they are opening
themselves up to being invaded
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by the powers of
darkness, the powers of Satan.
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And they have no clue
what they're getting into.
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Absolutely no clue.
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There is a real battle
going on, a real struggle
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between two powers, and
we're in the middle of it.
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And this is another
very significant point,
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is that this verse says, Jesus
sent Paul, He said, to turn them
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from darkness to light, and
from the power of Satan to God.
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To turn them from
darkness to light.
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One of the reasons why Wicca
is so appealing to people today
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is because it is offering people
power that they don't have
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to give anything
up in order to get.
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Now did you catch that?
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The natural human heart going
the direction of the world,
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Wicca is saying, We'll give
you power, just the way you are,
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spiritual power to lift your
life, and do whatever you want
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to do, but you
don't need to change.
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You don't need
to give up anything.
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This verse tells us that in
order for us to get the power
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of God, we need to make a
decision to turn away from evil.
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If you go down to verse
20, at the bottom of the verse,
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Paul says that they
should repent and turn to God.
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Now it concerns me also that
I think sometimes that even in
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church services sometimes,
people think that, you know,
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if the music's right,
and if the service is right,
00:32:34.16\00:32:36.50
that people can just get
the power; they can tap into the
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power without repentance.
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Can't do that. We can't
tap into God's power without
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repentance. Now
I'm all for good music,
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and I'm all for a good service,
but the Bible says we need to
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turn away from
darkness, to turn to the light;
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from the power of Satan to God.
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And that is something
that witchcraft has no clue.
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Turn to Romans.
Turn to the right.
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You're in Acts, just turn
a couple pages to the right.
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Turn right and look
at chapter 15 verse 13.
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Romans 15:13, Romans 15:13.
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I was reading this
verse on the way here;
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just meditating on this.
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It's a wonderful passage.
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Paul said, Now the God of hope
fill you with all joy and peace
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in believing; believing
the Bible, believing in God.
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That you may abound in hope
through what? through the power.
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The power of who?
of the Holy Spirit.
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That's right. There
is power available to us.
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There's a power we
don't want to be involved in,
00:33:52.75\00:33:55.66
and a power we do
need to connect with.
00:33:55.69\00:33:57.99
And God's power
is moral and perfect.
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And it is called the
power of the Holy Spirit.
00:34:00.31\00:34:04.04
There's a friend of mine said...
00:34:04.07\00:34:05.29
It was Ivor Myers.
00:34:05.33\00:34:06.36
You know Ivor. You
interviewed him recently.
00:34:06.39\00:34:08.23
Ivor works with me.
00:34:08.27\00:34:09.37
He's a good friend of
mine, and his wife Atonte.
00:34:09.41\00:34:11.06
We've been doing
radio programs together.
00:34:11.09\00:34:13.41
And Ivor said there's one
thing, well, among other things,
00:34:13.45\00:34:16.70
that Satan cannot do.
00:34:16.74\00:34:17.85
He can give you
power, but he cannot give you
00:34:17.89\00:34:20.25
power to do right.
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He can't do that, because
he doesn't have that power.
00:34:22.41\00:34:25.82
That power only
comes from the Holy Spirit.
00:34:25.86\00:34:30.19
Now, so we know there's
two powers in the world.
00:34:30.23\00:34:33.04
We've read that in Acts 26:18.
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We know that God's power is
the power of the Holy Spirit.
00:34:35.87\00:34:38.94
Let me just kind of zero
in on that a little bit more,
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and unpack that. Romans 1:18,
Paul says, I am not ashamed
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of the gospel of
Christ for it is what?
00:34:50.40\00:34:55.15
It is the power, right,
the power of God for salvation.
00:34:55.19\00:34:59.61
So God has power, but His
power is not just, it's not just
00:34:59.65\00:35:04.04
a force. It's a personal force.
00:35:04.07\00:35:07.68
And the power of God
is centered in the gospel.
00:35:07.72\00:35:11.93
And the gospel
reveals the power of God.
00:35:11.97\00:35:17.44
And this is a
very important point.
00:35:17.47\00:35:18.83
That the greatest manifestation
of God's power ever witnessed
00:35:18.87\00:35:23.45
in the universe, in the
history of the universe,
00:35:23.49\00:35:25.98
is the power of God's love when
the Father willingly offered
00:35:26.01\00:35:37.45
His Son as a sacrifice
for the sins of the world.
00:35:37.48\00:35:44.93
John 3:16,
Let's say it together.
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For God so loved the world
that He gave His only begotten
00:35:48.10\00:35:53.40
Son, that whosoever believeth
in Him should not perish,
00:35:53.44\00:35:58.71
but have everlasting life.
00:35:58.74\00:36:01.65
That's right. So we need power.
00:36:01.69\00:36:04.40
The power of God
is in the gospel.
00:36:04.43\00:36:07.07
And the greatest manifestation
of that power is the power of
00:36:07.11\00:36:11.82
His love in giving His Son.
00:36:11.85\00:36:14.63
I've really been
impressed with that text,
00:36:14.67\00:36:17.90
especially in the light of
the things that have happened
00:36:17.94\00:36:22.29
in my life with my wife
in the last eight months.
00:36:22.32\00:36:27.85
I don't know how many of you...
00:36:27.89\00:36:29.19
I was at Soquel, California
holding a series of meetings
00:36:29.22\00:36:33.33
in the main auditorium at
our camp meeting last July.
00:36:33.36\00:36:37.44
And I still remember.
00:36:37.47\00:36:38.50
It was a Wednesday.
00:36:38.53\00:36:39.56
It was July 21. I was preaching
in front of the big audience.
00:36:39.59\00:36:42.81
It was being broadcast over the
Tri-angel Broadcasting Network,
00:36:42.85\00:36:46.37
over the internet.
00:36:46.40\00:36:47.43
Did any of you see that?
00:36:47.46\00:36:48.84
I don't know. Probably not.
00:36:48.88\00:36:50.55
Well, anyway, I was
preaching and my topic was
00:36:50.58\00:36:52.89
The Seven Years of Tribulation.
00:36:52.92\00:36:54.25
That was my title.
00:36:54.28\00:36:55.86
And there was something
like the monitor right there.
00:36:55.90\00:36:57.60
There were some
monitors in front of me.
00:36:57.63\00:36:59.65
It was in the main auditorium.
00:36:59.69\00:37:00.95
And as I looked at that monitor,
right in the middle of my sermon
00:37:00.99\00:37:06.50
on The Seven
Years of Tribulation,
00:37:06.54\00:37:08.65
the monitor started flashing.
00:37:08.68\00:37:10.88
And the flashing, it said,
Labor now, labor now, labor now!
00:37:10.91\00:37:15.69
Now I had told the crowd,
in fact I'd introduced my wife
00:37:15.73\00:37:20.44
to the group, and had her
turn to the side, you know,
00:37:20.47\00:37:22.64
so everybody could
see how she was doing.
00:37:22.68\00:37:24.75
And I told the crowd, I said,
Now Kristin is due August 15.
00:37:24.78\00:37:30.32
But if by chance Seth comes
early, baby Seth comes early,
00:37:30.35\00:37:34.65
I'm leaving. Well,
when I saw that flash:
00:37:34.68\00:37:38.98
labor now, labor now.
00:37:39.01\00:37:40.28
I looked at that. I stuttered,
I stumbled, and I said, Ah, ah,
00:37:40.31\00:37:43.31
Ah, ah, ah, I gotta go.
00:37:43.34\00:37:45.55
So the guys came up,
helped me, you know; my laptop,
00:37:45.58\00:37:53.29
and close it down,
and rush me to my room,
00:37:53.32\00:37:55.73
and grabbed all my
stuff, and threw it in my car,
00:37:55.76\00:37:58.20
and I was on my way.
00:37:58.23\00:37:59.99
I was on my way to the
hospital where my wife was.
00:38:00.03\00:38:03.85
Now I knew that she
was in the hospital.
00:38:03.88\00:38:05.85
But I didn't know things
were happening like that.
00:38:05.89\00:38:08.72
Earlier that morning she had
been to her OB-GYN and they had
00:38:08.75\00:38:12.39
noticed, strangely, a
slight irregularity in the
00:38:12.42\00:38:16.77
baby's heart rate; just slight.
00:38:16.81\00:38:18.89
And they decided to
bring her in the afternoon
00:38:18.92\00:38:21.68
into the hospital, and
to monitor her for a couple
00:38:21.71\00:38:24.43
hours; two hours
of fetal monitoring.
00:38:24.46\00:38:26.55
And I knew that. But Seth wasn't
due for weeks, and this was just
00:38:26.58\00:38:31.95
a routine kind of thing.
00:38:31.98\00:38:33.45
But I was a little
bit nervous about it.
00:38:33.48\00:38:35.15
So anyway, when I saw
that sign, man, I just,
00:38:35.19\00:38:37.58
I flew back to the hospital.
00:38:37.61\00:38:40.04
And when I got there I
found out what happened.
00:38:40.08\00:38:41.64
What happened was when she
was hooked up to the monitor,
00:38:41.68\00:38:45.35
the nurse; she was
just reading a book.
00:38:45.38\00:38:47.81
She had no idea
what was going on.
00:38:47.84\00:38:49.79
And all of a sudden she
started having four minute long
00:38:49.83\00:38:52.31
contractions that
she didn't even feel.
00:38:52.35\00:38:54.85
And Seth's heart rate went
down from 150 beats a minute,
00:38:54.89\00:38:58.73
down to about 90.
And it was dangerous.
00:38:58.76\00:39:02.01
I mean the danger zone.
00:39:02.05\00:39:03.53
And the doctors or nurses
just rushed in with one of those
00:39:03.70\00:39:05.25
And the doctors, or nurses,
just rushed in with one of those
00:39:05.29\00:39:06.81
carts, slapped a mask on
Kristin's mouth, and just,
00:39:06.84\00:39:12.41
you know, ushered her out.
00:39:12.44\00:39:14.61
And put all these other tubes
on her, and she was terrified.
00:39:14.64\00:39:17.59
She was terrified.
00:39:17.62\00:39:19.07
What is happening?
00:39:19.10\00:39:20.15
Well, they were able to
bring his heart rate back up,
00:39:20.18\00:39:23.26
and she stabilized,
and Seth stabilized.
00:39:23.29\00:39:25.43
But it was scary because we
didn't know how many times has
00:39:25.46\00:39:27.93
this been happening in
the last couple of weeks?
00:39:27.96\00:39:29.75
How many times has
his heart rate gone down?
00:39:29.78\00:39:31.99
Has that effected the
oxygen content to his brain?
00:39:32.02\00:39:35.36
We don't know. We didn't know.
00:39:35.39\00:39:37.44
So they decided, once
I got to the hospital,
00:39:37.47\00:39:40.26
and we talked about this.
00:39:40.29\00:39:41.32
They said that the next day they
were going to give her a drug,
00:39:41.35\00:39:44.41
and try to induce labor,
and hope that Seth would come
00:39:44.44\00:39:47.66
the normal way. Well, the
next day they tried to do that,
00:39:47.69\00:39:50.47
and there were
still long contractions,
00:39:50.50\00:39:53.05
and his heart rate was
fluttering, and the doctors
00:39:53.08\00:39:55.16
finally decided this is
it; he's coming out tonight.
00:39:55.19\00:39:57.26
We're just going
to do a C section,
00:39:57.29\00:39:59.76
and he's coming out tonight.
00:39:59.79\00:40:01.30
Wow! So I went home,
grabbed some more things,
00:40:01.33\00:40:05.19
brought them back to the
hospital, and prepared to be
00:40:05.22\00:40:08.14
there for four days.
00:40:08.17\00:40:09.20
And that night was the night.
00:40:09.23\00:40:11.05
She was supposed to go in at
6:30, she finally got in there
00:40:11.08\00:40:14.12
about, or maybe 5:30,
got in there at about 6:30.
00:40:14.15\00:40:16.72
7:00 o'clock the doctors brought
me in with my little mask on,
00:40:16.75\00:40:21.37
and I was nervous
because I didn't know what was
00:40:21.41\00:40:25.02
happening with our baby.
00:40:25.05\00:40:26.08
I've never had a baby before!
00:40:26.11\00:40:27.67
It took me 41
years to get married.
00:40:27.70\00:40:30.06
And it took me almost
5 years to have a baby.
00:40:30.09\00:40:33.38
And this was all new
to me, and new to my wife.
00:40:33.41\00:40:36.50
So, anyway, they cut her,
and her face was behind a sheet.
00:40:36.53\00:40:42.88
And I went and talked to her,
and prayed, and then went around
00:40:42.91\00:40:46.36
the sheet, and
I was right there.
00:40:46.39\00:40:48.52
And there were four nurses right
behind me in case I fainted.
00:40:48.55\00:40:52.44
I said, I know
why you're back there.
00:40:52.47\00:40:54.42
Just in case I don't
make it through this!
00:40:54.45\00:40:56.50
And so the next thing that
happened was the most amazing.
00:40:56.53\00:41:00.39
They did the incision.
00:41:00.77\00:41:01.88
Dr. Thomas, a wonderful man...
00:41:01.91\00:41:03.64
I looked down and I saw
this little head pop out.
00:41:03.67\00:41:07.72
He was facing that direction,
and I was on this side.
00:41:07.75\00:41:10.74
And he said, Okay, here he is!
00:41:10.77\00:41:13.25
I'm going to turn
his little head around.
00:41:13.28\00:41:15.47
And I looked. And then Dr.
Thomas said all of a sudden,
00:41:15.50\00:41:19.51
push! And one of the nurses
went poof, and the next thing
00:41:19.54\00:41:24.31
I knew, this little
baby came flying out of there
00:41:24.34\00:41:29.11
like a missile
from a launch pad.
00:41:29.14\00:41:33.33
And I looked, and he came
out and he just, he went, Huh!
00:41:34.30\00:41:38.00
He breathed, Huh,
Ah! And he screamed.
00:41:38.03\00:41:41.18
Ha, he screamed. And they
grabbed him and they put him
00:41:41.21\00:41:44.41
right down next to
me on this little table,
00:41:44.44\00:41:47.93
and he's waving his
arms wildly, you know.
00:41:47.96\00:41:50.28
He looked great! I mean he
had all ten fingers, and all ten
00:41:50.31\00:41:54.08
toes. He had a
nose, eyes, a mouth.
00:41:54.11\00:41:55.86
And I've actually got, I've got
13 pictures of him right here
00:41:55.89\00:41:59.00
in my pocket, and my wife.
00:41:59.03\00:42:02.10
I'll show them to
you after the meeting.
00:42:02.13\00:42:04.16
I'm a hooked husband and father.
00:42:04.19\00:42:09.71
Well, anyway, the doctors
put him down right next to me.
00:42:09.74\00:42:16.27
And this kid was screaming
and crying, and I looked at him,
00:42:16.30\00:42:20.68
and I said, Seth, Seth, it's
your Daddy. It's your Daddy.
00:42:20.71\00:42:26.28
As soon as I said that he put
his little hand on his mouth,
00:42:26.31\00:42:33.18
he opened his eyes,
and he kinda looked around,
00:42:33.21\00:42:37.55
and he
immediately stopped crying.
00:42:37.58\00:42:39.69
Total, total, he was still.
00:42:39.72\00:42:43.31
And do you know why he did that?
00:42:43.34\00:42:45.47
Because he heard
his father's voice.
00:42:45.50\00:42:47.87
He knew his father's voice.
00:42:47.90\00:42:51.23
Because we'd read
him Bible stories,
00:42:51.26\00:42:53.66
and we'd prayed
for him, talked to him.
00:42:53.69\00:42:55.86
And I thought, Wow,
my baby knows my voice.
00:42:55.89\00:42:59.63
I thought, Father, how I
need to know my Father's voice.
00:42:59.66\00:43:04.63
And I have learned so
many lessons from Seth's birth,
00:43:04.66\00:43:10.73
I cannot begin to tell you.
00:43:10.76\00:43:12.86
6 lbs. 15 ozs., 20 inches.
00:43:12.89\00:43:16.41
The first sermon I preached
in my church after he was born
00:43:23.19\00:43:25.46
was called,
Lessons From Baby Seth.
00:43:25.49\00:43:27.02
Ha! A whole series of lessons!
00:43:27.05\00:43:29.76
It's like a
conversion experience.
00:43:29.79\00:43:34.49
I've always been
leery of having kids.
00:43:34.52\00:43:37.81
I always thought,
Too much responsibility.
00:43:37.84\00:43:41.01
I don't think
I'm ready for this.
00:43:41.04\00:43:42.39
That's why it took me a long
time, you know, to get married,
00:43:42.42\00:43:44.37
and finally have a baby.
00:43:44.40\00:43:46.43
Well, when Seth...
00:43:46.46\00:43:47.49
And I also did not like
the idea of changing diapers,
00:43:47.52\00:43:49.80
that's for sure.
Did not want to do that.
00:43:49.83\00:43:52.78
And I actually dated some
girls before I met Kristin,
00:43:52.81\00:43:57.50
that had one or two children,
and I always got cold feet.
00:43:57.53\00:44:01.19
I just wasn't ready for that.
00:44:01.22\00:44:02.78
I'm being real
honest with you here.
00:44:02.81\00:44:04.71
But after Seth was born, when
he came out, and they cleaned
00:44:04.74\00:44:08.90
him up, and I carried him down
the hallway to some friends.
00:44:08.93\00:44:12.96
Ivor Myers was
right there with his video
00:44:12.99\00:44:14.64
camera taking pictures.
00:44:14.67\00:44:15.70
And they brought
him in this little room.
00:44:15.73\00:44:18.04
And the pediatrician examined
him, and he shook my hand,
00:44:18.07\00:44:20.51
and he said, You
have a very healthy baby.
00:44:20.54\00:44:22.88
Congratulations!
And I was so excited.
00:44:22.91\00:44:25.57
When we finally took
him home four days later,
00:44:25.60\00:44:30.76
and I laid him in
this little crib there.
00:44:30.79\00:44:33.44
I laid him down
and I looked at him.
00:44:33.47\00:44:36.81
I had this intense
desire for Jesus to come.
00:44:36.84\00:44:42.57
Now I've wanted Jesus to
come for twenty-five years.
00:44:42.60\00:44:45.09
But when I saw Seth, this
little baby, I had this longing
00:44:45.12\00:44:51.25
to raise him in heaven.
00:44:51.28\00:44:52.31
And I thought, How much do
we really want the Lord to come?
00:44:52.34\00:44:55.26
How much do we really want
God to get us out of there?
00:44:55.29\00:44:57.90
How much do we really
want to have all of this end?
00:44:57.93\00:45:01.10
All of this pain, and
all of this suffering end?
00:45:01.13\00:45:03.36
Another thing that
impressed me was the innocence.
00:45:03.39\00:45:06.13
He's so innocent! I
just look at his little face,
00:45:06.16\00:45:11.37
and he's got huge eyes.
00:45:11.40\00:45:13.43
I don't know if you
know about Brad Thorpe.
00:45:13.46\00:45:15.40
Brad and I were talking not
long ago, and I was holding Seth
00:45:15.43\00:45:18.26
down in Semi Valley.
00:45:18.29\00:45:19.32
Brad and I were
talking, and Brad looked at...
00:45:19.35\00:45:22.73
We were talking and he looked
at Seth and Seth opened his big
00:45:22.76\00:45:25.13
eyes, and he just went, Wow!
00:45:25.16\00:45:26.84
He's got really big eyes.
00:45:26.87\00:45:28.67
You can actually see some
pictures of him on my website.
00:45:28.70\00:45:31.77
We have a website,
truthleftbehind. com,
00:45:31.80\00:45:34.51
thetruthleftbehind. com.
00:45:34.54\00:45:35.86
Anyway, the
innocence of a child.
00:45:35.89\00:45:40.08
And when I looked at
that, you know, click.
00:45:40.11\00:45:42.16
I mean lesson, after
lesson, after lesson.
00:45:42.19\00:45:44.19
My fathers voice, and
the lesson of innocence.
00:45:44.22\00:45:47.47
And I thought to myself,
We've lost our innocence!
00:45:47.50\00:45:50.74
We've been
corrupted by the world.
00:45:50.77\00:45:53.84
We all have. And the reason why
Jesus came was to get us back.
00:45:53.87\00:45:59.94
To restore that which was lost.
00:45:59.97\00:46:03.75
The innocence of a child.
00:46:03.78\00:46:05.82
The biggest lesson I
learned, of all the lessons;
00:46:09.37\00:46:12.46
one night, sometimes he
doesn't sleep, always at night.
00:46:12.49\00:46:19.22
I guess that's the typical
question they ask parents is:
00:46:19.25\00:46:22.94
Is your baby
sleeping through the night?
00:46:22.97\00:46:24.43
We always get that.
00:46:24.46\00:46:26.25
Well, sometimes he
doesn't quite make it.
00:46:26.28\00:46:27.82
And I remember one time, it
was late, and I picked him up
00:46:27.85\00:46:30.15
and he was crying, and I brought
him into the living room.
00:46:30.18\00:46:32.34
And I was just
carrying him around, you know.
00:46:32.37\00:46:33.95
One o'clock in the
morning or something;
00:46:33.98\00:46:35.38
just carrying him
around, carrying him around.
00:46:35.41\00:46:38.55
And all of a sudden it just
hit me like a bolt, like a bolt.
00:46:38.58\00:46:43.58
God gave His Son to save my son.
00:46:43.61\00:46:50.60
And I thought about that.
00:46:50.63\00:46:53.74
I thought, God sacrificed
His Son to save my son.
00:46:53.77\00:46:57.75
And then I thought,
Would I sacrifice my son?
00:46:57.78\00:47:01.77
Those of you that are
parents, you know, your child.
00:47:01.80\00:47:05.15
Would you sacrifice
your child for a lost world?
00:47:05.18\00:47:09.37
most of whom could care less
about your son or your daughter?
00:47:09.40\00:47:14.51
Would you do that?
00:47:14.54\00:47:16.10
And I thought about that, and
I thought, I don't know if I'd
00:47:16.13\00:47:18.06
be willing to do that.
00:47:18.09\00:47:19.37
And then I thought, you
know, that's what our Father did
00:47:19.40\00:47:24.93
in heaven. He
sacrificed His Son.
00:47:24.96\00:47:29.19
Sorcery teaches that the power
that is out there is neutral.
00:47:32.00\00:47:37.42
That's not true. The
power that is out there,
00:47:37.45\00:47:42.25
there's two powers:
one is evil, malicious,
00:47:42.28\00:47:46.35
and deadly, and destructive.
00:47:46.38\00:47:48.08
And the other one is perfect,
and more loving than you
00:47:48.12\00:47:52.54
can have any idea, any idea.
00:47:52.57\00:47:54.90
And the greatest manifestation
of that love is the Father's
00:47:54.93\00:47:58.81
willingness to
sacrifice His Son.
00:47:58.84\00:48:02.58
When I was five years
old, my appendix erupted.
00:48:02.61\00:48:06.97
I was with my Dad.
00:48:07.00\00:48:08.03
We were down in Coronado
with my brother, and my Mom.
00:48:08.06\00:48:10.92
My appendix erupted.
00:48:10.95\00:48:12.07
They rushed me to the hospital.
00:48:12.10\00:48:13.40
It was life or death, because
back then medical science
00:48:13.43\00:48:16.31
wasn't as advanced as it is
today, and I could have died.
00:48:16.34\00:48:18.36
And I remembered my Dad.
00:48:18.39\00:48:20.00
I still remember. He brought
into this room, through the
00:48:20.03\00:48:22.18
double doors, and I was,
he was holding me in his arms.
00:48:22.21\00:48:24.73
And this strange man
walked through the double doors
00:48:24.76\00:48:27.53
with a mask on, and a robe on.
00:48:27.56\00:48:29.73
And he grabbed me, and he wanted
to take me inside this room
00:48:29.76\00:48:34.54
by myself, away from my Dad.
00:48:34.57\00:48:36.89
And I cried, I screamed, and
I gripped my Dad's neck as hard
00:48:36.92\00:48:42.78
as I could. And my Dad told
me, we're as close to this day
00:48:42.81\00:48:46.26
He said, the hardest thing he's
ever had to do was to take my
00:48:46.29\00:48:50.79
little fingers and pry them out,
and hand me to this stranger
00:48:50.82\00:48:56.84
to take me through those double
doors into the operating room
00:48:56.87\00:49:00.16
so that He could save my life.
00:49:00.19\00:49:02.16
And I didn't
understand any of that;
00:49:02.19\00:49:04.85
that I had to be separated from
my father, in order for my life
00:49:04.88\00:49:12.91
to be saved. You have a Father
in heaven who loves you more
00:49:12.94\00:49:18.44
than you have any idea.
00:49:18.47\00:49:20.73
And He was willing to sacrifice
His own Son so you would feel
00:49:20.76\00:49:30.94
that power, the power of
His love, and make a choice
00:49:30.97\00:49:35.50
to turn from sin, the
bad things, and embrace Him
00:49:35.53\00:49:40.07
so He can put His arms
around you, and forgive you,
00:49:40.10\00:49:43.92
cleanse you, make you innocent
again, make you new again,
00:49:43.95\00:49:47.79
so He can save you, and bring
you to be with Him forever,
00:49:47.82\00:49:52.03
and ever, and ever.
00:49:52.06\00:49:53.09
That is the power of the gospel.
00:49:53.12\00:49:55.45
God so loved the world that He
gave His only Son that whoever
00:49:55.48\00:50:00.33
believes in Him
should not perish,
00:50:00.36\00:50:01.99
but have ever lasting life.
00:50:02.02\00:50:05.14
That's what Jesus did.
00:50:05.17\00:50:09.06
Now do you understand
the title of my message?
00:50:09.09\00:50:10.95
Sorcery, Seth, and the
Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
00:50:10.98\00:50:18.18
It's all there, it's all there.
00:50:18.21\00:50:20.81
God has led me into this arena.
00:50:20.84\00:50:24.63
In the time that I've got
left, let me just share with you
00:50:24.66\00:50:27.10
some very, very exciting things.
00:50:27.13\00:50:28.99
As I mentioned, we've put this
together as a television series.
00:50:29.02\00:50:32.53
It's now being edited.
00:50:32.56\00:50:34.29
A lot of information.
00:50:34.32\00:50:35.35
I just kind of shared
just the surface of this.
00:50:35.38\00:50:38.68
It's in the book.
We have a website.
00:50:38.71\00:50:41.02
Any of you who have
internet access go to
00:50:41.05\00:50:43.74
www.hourofthewitch.com,
hourofthewitch.com.
00:50:43.77\00:50:49.18
You're going to see
an incredible animation,
00:50:49.21\00:50:51.25
And this is
what we put together.
00:50:51.28\00:50:54.67
Now let me tell
you what's going on.
00:50:54.70\00:50:56.08
I also have a
new e-mail address,
00:50:56.11\00:50:57.44
if you want to e-mail
me: steve@hourofthewitch.com
00:50:57.47\00:51:00.20
End Time
Insights is our ministry.
00:51:00.23\00:51:03.63
We have cooperated with
another wonderful ministry
00:51:03.66\00:51:06.49
in Clovis, California
called Prophetic Ministries.
00:51:06.52\00:51:09.07
And they have worked with
us to actually fund a large
00:51:09.10\00:51:14.37
campaign. We have hired one
of the biggest publicists in the
00:51:14.40\00:51:20.22
Christian world for a six month
campaign that's already begun.
00:51:20.25\00:51:24.80
He is sending out press
releases to major media,
00:51:24.83\00:51:28.54
and major Christian
television networks.
00:51:28.57\00:51:31.26
This coming July, July 16,
when the next Harry Potter book
00:51:31.29\00:51:35.57
comes out, it's
called Harry Potter and the
00:51:35.60\00:51:38.07
It's going to be national news.
00:51:38.10\00:51:40.15
We have a TV series,
and a book, and a publicist,
00:51:40.18\00:51:44.10
and the funding. And it's
all already come together.
00:51:44.13\00:51:46.56
And it's all in the works to try
to get all of this out onto the
00:51:46.59\00:51:50.11
major Christian
television networks.
00:51:50.14\00:51:53.05
We're talking about
Inspirational Network,
00:51:53.08\00:51:55.89
and there's a whole host of
them out there that we've been
00:51:55.92\00:51:58.68
in contact with that
are extremely interested
00:51:58.71\00:52:02.62
in airing this series.
00:52:02.65\00:52:04.53
And the whole goal of all
of this, the goal, is to open
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people's eyes to shed the light
into the darkness of this world,
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and to open people's eyes
to the love of the Father,
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and to lead them to
His Son Jesus Christ.
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That's what it's all about.
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I've been on over 300
radio shows on different,
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all kinds of different topics.
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And we're just going to get
all kinds of, all kinds of...
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It's going to be
a battle, I know.
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The American Tract
Society; I'm working with them.
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And we're going to write a
little tract that's going to,
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for the people like I met
last week, people like you.
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If you know people that are
into Wicca, you can hand a tract
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to them that will be written
specifically for Wiccans,
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designed to show them
the love of the Father,
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and the love of
His Son Jesus Christ.
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We know that we are involved
with a battle of principalities
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and powers. We know that
we are in spiritual warfare.
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We have felt it already, and
we know it's going to continue.
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But God is bigger than
the devil, and God has a plan,
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and a message that's
powerful, to lighten the whole
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earth with its glory, lighten
the whole earth with its glory.
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And that's why we're here.
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That's why you're here, that's
why 3ABN is here in different
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ways to preach God's message
as far, and as fast as possible.
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I don't have time
to share it right now,
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but inside The Hour of the Witch
book, and it should be on the
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website too, there is going
to be the testimony of a young
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woman, her name is Pam,
and actually Lonnie Melashenko
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is going to baptize her
in about ten days from now,
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nine or ten days. She
grew up in the church.
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She went off into Wicca.
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She got deeply
involved, almost lost her life,
00:53:45.95\00:53:49.22
went through a terrible
experience, and finally God
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opened her eyes, reached down
into the darkness and got a hold
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of her, and brought her out.
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And we're in touch
regularly through e-mail.
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And her testimony is powerful.
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She's been there. She
knows what Wicca is about.
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It's not friendly,
it's not white magic.
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They say it is, but
the devil's in there.
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The devil's in
there, and Pam knows it.
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She's been in it and
God brought her out of it.
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And we just praise the
Lord for people like her,
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and for others that God
is delivering from the powers
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of darkness, and bringing
them into the light of His Son.
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Our time is almost
over, at least for me.
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Let's go back to Revelation,
and let me just wind this up.
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Revelation 18. We
know that verse 1 says
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the light is going to shine.
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Revelation 18:1 says another
angel is going to come down
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from heaven with great power,
and the earth is going to be
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lightened with His glory.
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Verse 23, this is
God's last call to Babylon.
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And may the Lord open our
eyes that we don't get sucked up
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into these things.
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Verse 23 says, And the light
of a candle shall shine no more
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at all in Babylon.
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And the voice of the bridegroom,
that's Jesus, and of the bride
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shall be heard no more at
all in you in Babylon for your
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merchants were the
great men of the earth;
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for by your sorceries
were all the nations deceived.
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Real sorcery is going to deceive
real nations at the end of time,
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and that wave is here right now.
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We're in the final days.
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Aren't we Danny?
We're in the final days.
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And in the midst of all of
this may God inject His light,
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His power. And the heart of
His power again, is His love.
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The love of a Father giving His
Son to save the world from sin.
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May God help us, may He use us,
and may He help us as we work
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with people that
are involved in Wicca.
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Because you know what?
Jesus died for witches, too,
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for Wiccans, too. He loves
them just like He loves you.
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And may the Lord help us
all to share the love of Jesus
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Christ before it's too late.
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Thank you for the
chance to be here.
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