OCI Reports

Amazon Lifesavers Ministry

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Participants: Steven Grabiner

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00:16 The mystique of the Amazon River
00:18 has long had a powerful allure upon the imagination of many.
00:24 Being the second longest river in the world
00:27 and running through the countries
00:29 of Peru, Ecuador, Columbia and Brazil
00:33 the Amazon River basin
00:35 has attracted international attention.
00:38 The river basin covers an area of almost
00:41 three million square miles
00:43 but the most attractive part on this river
00:45 is what the Brazilians call ribereños
00:48 or the people that live along the riverbanks.
00:53 Today, we're going to visit an OCI ministry
00:55 that is serving the people
00:57 that live along the banks of this great river.
01:14 Two missionaries who dedicated their lives
01:16 to ministering to the river people
01:18 where Jessie and Leo Halliwell.
01:21 They came to Belem,
01:23 the mouth of the Amazon River in the early 1930s.
01:27 Becoming aware of the tremendous needs
01:30 of the people living along this river
01:32 Leo conceived with the idea of starting a medical launch
01:36 which he named Luzerio or light bearer.
01:40 His first book was christened July 4th 1931.
01:45 And for 38 years the Halliwell's
01:48 dedicated their lives and energy
01:50 to serving the river people.
01:53 Throughout their ministry over a quarter million people
01:57 were directly affected
01:58 by the service of the Halliwell's.
02:01 Unfortunately due to a variety of circumstances
02:05 that fleet of boats which were serving the river people
02:09 ultimately came to an end.
02:11 Until God rekindled division through Brad and Lina Mills.
02:16 They christened their first boat July 4th, 2009.
02:23 This village was the site of the first indigenous church
02:27 at the Halliwell's constructed.
02:30 Unfortunately over the years
02:32 many of the church members passed away
02:35 and the faith for those remaining few grew weak.
02:38 It was an exciting day
02:40 when the team from Amazon Lifesavers
02:42 came to this village.
02:44 Not only did they bring health and hope
02:46 to the people on this community
02:48 but they've helped to revive
02:49 and reconstruct the Adventist church
02:53 which is a light for the villages
02:55 further upstream.
02:59 Amazon Lifesavers Ministry is a supporting ministry
03:03 of the Adventist church
03:04 that works in the Amazon region of Brazil.
03:07 And what we do is provide medical care
03:10 and use that as a opening door
03:12 to reach the people that live on the banks of the river
03:14 in the jungle.
03:15 And a little bit of, whatever the community needs
03:18 whether it's development or education, construction stuff
03:22 we use all these
03:23 different aspects as opening doors
03:26 so then bring the gospel and do pioneer work
03:28 in starting churches of evangelism
03:30 and training of local church leaders.
03:34 The church officially ran a project
03:36 called the Luzerio program for over 60 years.
03:39 Which for several different reasons ended up
03:41 dying off in the 90s,
03:43 and so in the mid 2000, 2005, 2006
03:47 the Lord was really calling together
03:48 a group of Brazilians that had been involved
03:51 with the old program.
03:52 And God had a way bringing us all together
03:54 and we were able to start this non-profit
03:57 supporting ministry that worked with the church.
03:59 In 2010 the church saying that we have three boats
04:03 and we're working and there was so much interest
04:06 the church actually started ADRA in the Amazon.
04:09 So we work at this point and collaboration with ADRA
04:11 on all of our development and medical events.
04:14 And then with our evangelism
04:16 that we do we work with Global Missions
04:18 which is a department of our union office.
04:21 As we're planning our lights schools
04:22 that we want to open
04:23 we are in totally involved in the union
04:25 with that our union secretary is excited
04:27 and so together we're in the planning stages right now,
04:30 you know, working together as a supporting ministry
04:32 with our church.
04:34 Amazon Lifesavers an organization's like that one
04:39 are really essential especially in areas
04:42 where it's very difficult to do certain types of work.
04:45 And when people have a burden that the Lord lays on them
04:49 to actually go and do something
04:50 in very rural challenging frontier types of areas
04:55 the church needs to interact
04:56 in a very careful and prayerful way
04:59 and realize that really this is an extension
05:02 of the wonderful work of sharing the three angels messages
05:07 in a very practical way.
05:09 And if there can be a very close working relationship
05:12 that continues to develop over time
05:16 that can be an absolutely beautiful evangelistic outreach
05:21 that complements everything that the church is trying to do.
05:26 Today we have an administrative base
05:27 which is based in the city of Manaus
05:30 the capital city of the state of Amazon,
05:33 right in the center of the Amazon region.
05:35 And we are about 35 kilometers outside of the city
05:39 on the bank of the river in that location
05:42 we have the administrative offices
05:43 where we coordinate between
05:45 are operational bases in the jungle.
05:48 At that location we also do volunteer training,
05:51 we have events that will bring all of our volunteers together
05:54 and do workshops to prepare them better,
05:57 medically and navigation safety and also with evangelism.
06:03 We coordinate between three operating bases
06:06 where we have three of our larger boats working.
06:08 And each base is basically set up in the same way.
06:11 We have a base coordinator of each boat in each region.
06:15 So one boat might have a,
06:17 you know, 200 kilometer region that it services
06:20 and the coordinator of that base
06:22 will then coordinate between the different communities
06:25 and do strategic planning
06:26 where we will do our next evangelist series,
06:29 where we need Bible workers
06:31 and then coordinate with the medical part,
06:33 where do we need to bring in medical staff
06:35 to open up the doors into an un-entered community.
06:40 We felt a call as we were preparing ourselves
06:43 and education we want to go and serve a needy place.
06:47 And so one of the things
06:48 that was so weighing on our heart
06:49 was coming to the Amazon in Brazil.
06:51 And we had knelt down and we asked the Lord
06:53 to make it extremely clear.
06:55 And we were actually on a mission trip
06:56 in Costa Rica in 2007.
06:59 We came back to the US
07:01 and I had received an email from an individual
07:05 who had a boat that he was interested
07:07 in donating to the Lord's work.
07:09 And we didn't, you know, think much about it,
07:12 we did actually send him an email
07:13 and said hey, we're interest and finding out more about this.
07:16 He had built a boat himself and lived on it for five years.
07:20 His wife had died,
07:21 he wanted to see it used in the Lords work.
07:24 And so by the end of about an hour
07:25 conversation he said would you like this boat?
07:28 He told us all about it and I said well,
07:31 you know, it sounds interesting,
07:32 but we don't have the money to buy this boat.
07:34 And he said, I didn't ask if you want to buy it.
07:36 I said you want this boat? I'd like to donate it to you.
07:39 Basically within a week and a half
07:40 we had the boat registration in the mail signed
07:44 a new boat for to be used on the Amazon
07:46 which was a huge sign that we have been saying Lord,
07:49 is this where You want us to go.
07:51 And the Lord gave us an amazing answer,
07:52 yes, go forward.
07:59 I feel like God really hand-picked this base for us.
08:01 We were praying and praying
08:03 for a long time that He would show us the right place.
08:06 And we specifically asked for a sign
08:09 we wanted Brazil nut tree.
08:12 And there are Brazil nut trees in the interior
08:15 but around this area it's not very common.
08:18 We were searching and searching
08:19 and then God let us to this base
08:21 and when we came we found so many different kinds fruits
08:25 those just filled mangoes and bananas
08:28 and papayas and all sorts of fruits.
08:30 And then at the very end
08:32 the man said and also we have a Brazil nut tree
08:35 so that was so special that
08:37 exactly what we had really asked the Lord
08:38 He gave it to us
08:39 and so this base is perfect in that sense.
08:42 Many times missionaries think
08:44 they're gonna go and do just one thing,
08:46 but the best missionaries are the ones
08:48 that are willing to do anything.
08:50 And I do all sorts of things.
08:51 I cook for groups sometimes,
08:53 sometimes I just wash all the sheets
08:55 when the groups are gone.
08:56 Of course I'm a mom as well
08:57 so I take care of my kids and I home school
09:01 and then we go out on the boat.
09:03 I help with Sabbath School children Sabbath school program
09:07 or I also do dental cleaning
09:09 sometimes help to see some patients.
09:11 Also here at the base
09:13 I help with communications
09:14 as far as keeping our website updated
09:17 and sending out our newsletters and things like that.
09:21 I just love being out in nature,
09:23 I love waking up every morning and hearing the birds.
09:26 As a mom it's just wonderful to know
09:28 that you are raising your kids
09:30 with good values and in a good environment
09:32 where they're learning service and unselfishness
09:34 and they are not having to struggle
09:36 with lot of the temptations
09:37 that people who live in cities struggle with,
09:39 and just the whole package.
09:41 I feel like I'm doing God's will
09:43 and I feel like I'm raising my children
09:45 to learn that and I think that's what keeps me going.
09:50 Besides the full time work
09:51 that our ministry does with volunteers
09:53 who live on the boats
09:54 who come, we also get a lot a groups that come from-
09:57 for spend a week or two weeks.
10:00 Well, couple years ago we were working
10:02 with the Adventist University in South Brazil
10:04 they came up with a group of nursing students.
10:06 And they had so much fun and it was incredible trip,
10:09 you know, they're from the same country
10:10 but total different reality from Sao Paulo.
10:14 Among that group was one girl
10:16 who had a sister who was a nurse.
10:18 And her sister was married,
10:20 they lived in different party Brazil
10:21 and the two of them
10:23 had really dreamed about being missionaries.
10:24 They always thought they have to go
10:26 to Africa to be missionaries.
10:28 And their sister came on this trip
10:29 and went back and called her and said hey,
10:31 I just spent, you know, two weeks in the Amazon
10:33 it was amazing, you guys should see
10:35 and she started telling her me about the trip.
10:37 So this couple, Daniel and Naissem
10:39 and they got really interest
10:40 and said, hey you know, we'd love to find out.
10:43 So Daniel actually came about a year and a half ago
10:45 to see the project and see what goes on.
10:48 And he spent one month.
10:50 We put him out in the jungle
10:51 he's been a month visiting villages,
10:53 no contact with his wife.
10:55 And when we finally gets to us
10:56 and calls her he says, you're not gonna believe this,
10:58 this is amazing, this is what we wanted to do.
11:01 Within two months they sold everything they had,
11:04 they rented out their house to someone else and they moved.
11:07 They both came and they've been with us
11:09 for about 14 months now.
11:11 Over their course of that time they've become our
11:13 one of the coordinators of one of our local bases.
11:16 They actually run the catamaran boat
11:18 they coordinate that whole region,
11:20 both of them being registered nurses.
11:23 And really Bible workers in their hearts
11:25 and they've come and they've help with medical work
11:27 and evangelism in this whole region.
11:32 I am a nurse and I'm also the secretary
11:35 at the base in Barreirinhas.
11:38 In our day-to-day activities we do medical consults,
11:41 go from community to community visiting.
11:44 Do educational talks and also attend to people
11:48 who show up at our boat anytime day or night.
11:53 And besides the medical consults that we provide
11:56 we also do evangelistic work as well.
11:59 There are two main things that I like to do
12:01 and the first is bringing Jesus to people
12:04 and see their lives being transformed.
12:07 The second thing that I most like
12:08 is when a person comes to us and they are suffering
12:11 and we are able to relieve their suffering
12:13 in some capacity that is very gratifying.
12:21 I'm a nurse I graduated in Goiania
12:23 and currently I'm the base coordinator
12:26 for the base in Barreirinhas.
12:28 So I coordinate the missions and evangelistic activities
12:31 that happen in this area.
12:35 Another thing we do
12:37 is to go into the river communities
12:39 and motivate the people.
12:41 One of the many problems that we see in the jungle
12:44 is people drinking alcohol.
12:48 This people who already have so little
12:50 are spending the rest of their income on alcohol.
12:56 So we have a plan to go into these communities
12:58 and motivate them to stop drinking.
13:03 First and foremost obviously we want to bring Jesus
13:06 and the hope of salvation that we have,
13:08 but we also see so many needs
13:11 that the people have in a tangible way
13:13 for their day-to-day living.
13:15 We work with the totally isolated group of people
13:19 that for them to go to the closest hospital
13:23 being a hospital that might not have a single doctor
13:26 or sometimes a doctor no x-ray, no radiology
13:29 maybe be able to do a simple blood test.
13:32 For them to even get to this place
13:34 they might have to travel one to two days in a dugout canoe.
13:37 And so the needs are so great for medical care,
13:41 the needs for education,
13:42 the needs for basic sanitation and living
13:45 we come in and assess and we try to work
13:48 and in helping supply you know their basic needs
13:52 and then being able to reach them on a spiritual level.
13:55 I think we've seen in medical is the arm that we use
13:59 but really when you're able to meet
14:01 somebody's basic physical need
14:04 they really open up and make a connection with you.
14:08 You know, people often say like,
14:10 I don't understand why are you here?
14:12 Now they know this is the hard place to live.
14:15 In fact, when we talk about
14:17 what is life like to live in a jungle village.
14:19 It's a hard work with no machinery to help,
14:25 no electronic assistance and so they do
14:28 all their hard work on their own.
14:29 You know, and it's a tough life
14:32 and so really I think their needs
14:34 or so often basic everyday living needs that they have.
14:39 Brad and Lina and their team
14:41 have tirelessly sought to bring medical help to this region.
14:45 Through their ministry thousands of families
14:48 have been richly blessed.
14:50 In a moment we'll see another way
14:53 at Amazon Lifesavers is enriching
14:56 the lives on the river people.
15:07 When you think of missionaries what do you picture?
15:10 For many people the image of a doctor,
15:12 teacher or pastor in a remote country comes to mind.
15:16 But the truth is
15:17 God needs people with many different skills
15:19 in His work both around the world and close to home.
15:23 At OCI we're passionate
15:25 about helping to connect mission minded people
15:28 with our network of more than 80 ministries.
15:30 Each project aims to share the gospel in practical ways
15:34 and they need skilled workers of all types.
15:36 Mechanics, gardeners, cooks and designers
15:40 just to name a few
15:41 and of course they also need teachers and doctors.
15:45 If you're interested in serving at an OCI ministry
15:47 visit our website for a list of current opportunities
15:51 or call our office we'd love to talk to you.
16:01 Clearly a tremendous amount of forethought and planning
16:05 goes into launching a ministry such as this.
16:09 There's the administrative work of keeping five launches
16:13 well-maintained, adequately staffed
16:16 and placed into the field.
16:18 There's a vast amount of administrative work
16:21 but administration is only a means to an end.
16:25 One of Amazon Lifesavers ultimate goals
16:28 is continuing to provide quality medical care
16:32 to those people that live along
16:33 the banks of the Amazon and its tributaries.
16:39 Lina and I were planning since college
16:42 we wanted to be medical missionaries
16:43 and so we actually met-
16:45 my wife and I at nursing school
16:47 and then after serving for years missionaries
16:50 we went after graduating as far as,
16:51 we went overseas for a year and decided that
16:54 if we had a little bit more medical training
16:55 we can do a lot more.
16:56 I came back and got my masters
16:58 as a family nurse practitioner.
17:00 And my wife at the time did a second-degree
17:01 as a registered dental hygiene.
17:03 Just be able to come and do the dental side of things.
17:06 Well the people that we usually visit are pretty far off
17:10 and most of them haven't had visits
17:14 from a doctor or dentist in years.
17:17 The people that I-
17:19 that I do cleanings on most of them,
17:21 I would say almost 99 percent
17:23 have never had their teeth cleaned before.
17:26 I've seen in children so much calculus
17:30 that usually we only see in adults in the States,
17:32 you know, just from a lack of brushing.
17:34 Just simply a lack of brushing ever hardly.
17:38 And so I know that if I don't remove that
17:41 the bacteria are gonna get underneath it
17:43 and they're gonna have gingivitis,
17:45 then they are gonna get periodontitis,
17:47 they are gonna bone loss
17:48 and they're gonna lose their teeth.
17:49 And so that's why so young
17:51 so many of them have teeth that are gone.
17:53 Of course, if it's not already gone from decay.
17:56 So to me it just so gratifying
17:57 because I do a clean of a teeth
17:59 and I know that I am preventing bone loss
18:01 and I'm preventing tooth loss in the future.
18:04 Also just a education
18:05 to go in depth with them and sit down
18:07 and get them floss and give them
18:08 you know mirror and to have them actually do it
18:12 is super gratifying because it's the first time
18:14 they're really learning exactly how to do it.
18:16 Just knowing that you're making a different
18:19 its gonna last a long time as super gratify
18:22 is one of the things I love to do.
18:28 We realized the big need to have
18:30 some kind of help for the health
18:32 in these communities on this river.
18:35 And we quickly thought,
18:36 why don't we build a health clinic?
18:38 So we begin by studying the geography in this area
18:41 and discovered that this community
18:43 New Jerusalem is right in the middle.
18:46 And so we thought it would be
18:47 an ideal location for a health clinic
18:49 but not only a clinic it would also have rooms
18:52 for volunteers to stay in when they come.
18:56 So at this point we're going to have a medical room,
18:59 a dental room, two dorm rooms for men and women,
19:03 a kitchen and a bathroom.
19:06 We also have a little outboard engine
19:08 that is here to support the volunteers
19:10 if they need transport
19:11 while they are working here at this health post.
19:16 We're also encouraging
19:17 the people along the river to plant
19:19 and to have gardens and cultivate land
19:22 where they live.
19:27 Basically the main source of food
19:29 for the people along the river is fish and cassava.
19:33 And so we know that they have deficiencies in their nutrition.
19:37 It isn't easy especially when you're trying
19:39 to change somebody's culture
19:41 and tell them that they need
19:42 to eat more fruits and vegetables.
19:46 So our first step is to motivate
19:48 and encourage them to start planting
19:51 so they can have more fruits and vegetables.
19:55 So this first step we have already given them
19:58 but the truth is there's a lot of a things
20:01 that they don't know how to eat or prepare.
20:03 They don't have the cultural habit
20:05 of knowing how to eat it or what to eat it with.
20:09 So that is what we're hoping to help them with as well.
20:17 When we first came to this area of the river
20:20 brother Joao Lucio was the first person
20:22 we made contact with.
20:25 The people on this river knew about the work
20:27 on the Luzeiro that was done many years ago.
20:30 So when we got here
20:31 we were very well received by the people.
20:35 Brother Joao Lucio invited us into his house his church.
20:40 We preached at his church
20:41 and also did some training courses
20:43 with the church members.
20:47 The region that we live in is very large
20:50 and there was no way for a pastor
20:52 to come here very often to see us.
20:55 And Daniel and Naissem have been a huge support.
21:00 He has been an Adventist for many years
21:03 and he knows his Bible well.
21:04 But in his church he is the only leader
21:07 and is doing everything alone.
21:09 So we are able to come to his church
21:11 and help him and provide training to the members.
21:15 I think one of the challenges
21:16 of reaching the people in the interior
21:18 is helping them to understand that our church is not the same
21:20 as all the other churches.
21:22 They say well it doesn't matter
21:23 we all serve the same God.
21:25 So to them, you know, in order to change
21:28 their religion per se or change
21:30 or make a stand for certain truth
21:32 it's difficult for them
21:33 because for them it shouldn't matter.
21:37 One of the biggest needs that we have seen
21:39 in the interior of the Amazon
21:41 is more Bible workers more trained
21:45 people that would come in
21:46 and be able to use the health message,
21:49 education, training and really teach the people
21:52 basic doctrines and study of the Bible.
21:56 And last year we actually begin communicating with LIGHT,
22:00 Lay Institute of Global Health Training
22:02 about their training programs
22:04 that they were offering around the world
22:06 to train people as medical missionaries.
22:08 In January the beginning of this year
22:10 we actually did our first one month LIGHT course
22:12 we had some LIGHT leaders come down.
22:15 And we were able to take 10 of the jungle people
22:19 that we had worked with,
22:20 that we had done medical work
22:21 and evangelism in their communities.
22:23 We did that first month course
22:25 and we had such a success
22:27 that we're actually wanting
22:28 to implement a fulltime LIGHT course
22:31 so we can be training, river people bring them in
22:34 put them to a training and then have them back out
22:36 in their own villages or if they want
22:38 to go to different village
22:39 where there's no Adventist present
22:41 to go to a new village
22:42 and start doing medical mission pioneer work in the jungle.
22:46 I remember one of the church leaders
22:48 Claudia said to us,
22:49 she said, you know,
22:50 what I have been on Adventist of years, I've done evangelism
22:55 and I have never understood the Book of Daniel.
22:58 So this is the first time I really even read
23:00 and understand the Book of Daniel
23:01 and it was so exciting and she said,
23:03 you know, this is gonna help me
23:04 to be able to continue studying with people in the jungle.
23:10 I learned about spiritual things, health, evangelism
23:14 and I learned about what I should eat
23:16 and about eating meat
23:19 that was something I had never heard before
23:22 and so I took my own decision
23:24 to not eat meat.
23:28 While studying with Brother Brad
23:30 I learned a lot in the Book of Daniel.
23:33 Things I had never heard in my whole life,
23:37 also about the final events.
23:39 I learned some amazing things that I had never heard before.
23:46 I talk to a lot of people here from my church
23:50 and they're just hoping and praying
23:52 that this course could come here
23:54 because in this area on this river
23:56 I believe there's a lot of people
23:58 that need this kind of education and help.
24:01 We are very needy for these things.
24:06 We just got back from a mission trip
24:09 with a group that came and helped and
24:11 it was just so exciting
24:14 to see the thankfulness
24:15 of the people in the interior.
24:17 When they come to you personally and they say listen,
24:20 what you shared with me about the Bible
24:22 that has helped me so much it's like a light.
24:25 You know, you guys have come and you encouraged us
24:28 and we feel like a light has come in
24:30 and helped us on our on our journey to life.
24:33 Those of kinds of statements are just so encouraging to us.
24:36 I just feel like that's what make this work worth it.
24:40 People get in touch with us and say,
24:42 how can I help or how can I participate in this project?
24:45 Lot of people say hey, I'm not a medical person
24:47 what can I do to help?
24:49 I think is, you know, generic as it sounds
24:52 one of the biggest things that people can do
24:54 is actually pray for specific Bible workers,
24:57 pray for our volunteers, pray for the project.
24:59 You know, we're always looking for volunteers,
25:02 were desperate for Bible workers.
25:04 And so, you know, a lot of people want to come
25:06 obviously if you speak Portuguese
25:09 you can come out and be able to open up
25:11 and study with the people and work with them.
25:14 You know, to run so many boats,
25:15 we're always needing a mechanic
25:17 that can come and help upkeep our boats.
25:20 And, you know, there so many ways to get involved like that.
25:24 In our ministry right now
25:25 we're actually running five boats
25:27 in three different operating bases
25:29 and all of our boats are staffed by volunteers.
25:33 And we work with between 200-250 part-time volunteers,
25:38 medical, dental professionals.
25:40 And you know its something we always talk
25:43 with like how do you continue growing
25:44 an organization on volunteers?
25:47 And yet we've seen that God has called people
25:49 volunteers to have a burden
25:52 to come out and reach these people and people come out
25:55 and they start to serve and they feel like
25:58 there's so much to be done
25:59 and I want to be a part in reaching these people.
26:02 OCI and all of its affiliates
26:05 are a great underlying support
26:07 to the local organizational outreach
26:11 and our mission emphasis in trying to help people realize
26:14 that Jesus is coming soon
26:16 and they do it in a very practical way.
26:20 In 2010 our ministry actually became members of OCI
26:24 which I think right from the get go has
26:27 has been a huge blessing to us.
26:29 I think probably the first and most wonderful assistance
26:33 really was getting experienced leaders
26:36 involved that helped counsel and orient and pray with.
26:40 And I think an addition
26:42 to that really going to OCI Leadership Retreats
26:45 and then actually getting to me other missionaries
26:48 that are going through
26:49 some of the exact same things you are.
26:51 You know we're not just here
26:52 in the middle of the Amazon all by ourselves
26:54 but there's people all over the world doing
26:56 what we're doing.
26:57 And we're part of that family
26:58 we are part of that team and try to inspire them
27:01 that we're all working together for the same cause.
27:03 I think that's what OCI helped inspiring me.
27:08 Following in the wake of the original Luzerio boats
27:12 Amazon, Lifesavers continues to navigate
27:15 the Amazon and its tributaries.
27:18 Their ultimate aim is to introduce the people
27:21 in these remote villages
27:24 to the great physician Jesus Christ.
27:28 Brad and Lina Mills have taken to heart
27:30 Leo Halliwell's motto that service
27:34 is a privilege and not a sacrifice.
27:41 I encourage each of you
27:42 to consider what you can do
27:44 to help growing work of OCI
27:46 all around the world.
27:48 We deeply value your support.
27:52 Please visit us at outpostcenters.org.
27:56 To learn more about the worldwide work of OCI
27:59 and our member ministries such as Amazon Lifesavers.
28:04 To contact us email info@outpostcenters.org
28:10 or feel free to call us
28:18 We would love to hear from you.
28:21 For OCI Reports this is Steven Grabiner.


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