Hi, friends, and
welcome to another edition
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of NEWSTART Now.
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I'm your host, Ron Giannoni.
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In our studio with me,
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we have a young
man, his name is Chuck.
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I want you to take a look at him
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when he first arrived
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and look at him now.
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Mainly, I want to
get better health,
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and I want to lose weight.
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Haven't been successful
in doing that on my own,
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so I'm hoping to lose
15 pounds while I'm here,
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and then I want to
continue down to about,
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I'd say 185, you say 170,
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170 would be great.
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Well, I'd love to
get off medications.
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I've always been on
medication, not always,
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1973, I was diagnosed
with high blood pressure,
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and I've been on
medication since then.
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But last year,
and only two or three,
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last year, I got pneumonia,
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got sepsis when I
was in the hospital,
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had a reaction to the antibiotic
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and lost my balance,
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couldn't walk for a long time,
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and put on the weight,
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especially my
stomach, can't get rid of it.
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Everything I've
tried doesn't work,
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my stomach is just
pressure all the time.
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I think it's from
some of the medications,
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I take seven now.
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And if you can get me off
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of three or
four, that'd be great.
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I love being better.
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Welcome back, friends.
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Help me welcome Chuck Spafford
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all the way from
Redding, California.
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Yep.
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Yeah, it's a good thing
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you're not up
there with the fires.
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I was. You were though.
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I was... We were evacuated.
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I know.
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But that's all
under control now.
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That's gone, but no paradise.
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Paradise is gone.
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It's terrible.
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Yeah, terrible, 9,000.
Yeah. Absolutely terrible.
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Well, let's talk
about you, Chuck.
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Okay.
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You know, when you got here,
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I could see a little
maybe wishful thinking
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but you weren't quite sure.
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What do you think
now? Where are you at?
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You know, it's
hard to put it in words.
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Even go back
and tell my friends,
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it's going to be difficult
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'cause it's a whole environment.
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It's the people involved
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that you come in
contact with every day,
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all have the same mindset.
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They're here to serve.
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And that...
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I've got a great cardiologist,
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great internist,
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been back to Mayo three times.
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And they've done all the tests
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and this is what I needed.
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This is taking care of my...
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I believe this will
take care of my problem.
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You had a pain in your
stomach, some pressures.
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I have pressure in my
stomach, severe pressure,
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and it was 24 hours a day.
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And how about now?
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None. None.
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Now after week here,
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released a
little bit, went down,
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and yeah, I feel
totally comfortable.
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Stomach's now
down where I want it,
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that one like yours, Ron, it is.
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That's fine. I
am happy with that.
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You got a lot of
ways to go, not much.
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I am going to stay with
it. Yeah, that's the key.
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I'm going to stay with it.
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Praise God. Yeah.
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And so the program
has met your expectation?
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And more. And more.
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And more, yeah.
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I couldn't be more,
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I've got mixed feelings.
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I want to get home,
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don't want to leave.
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You know, I felt
that way 13 years ago,
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and they can't get rid of me.
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Well, that's good. That's good.
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You know, since
you brought it up,
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people call me and
say they had this ailment
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or that ailment.
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Some things I've
never heard of like,
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"My stomach hurts,
will this help my stomach?"
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I don't know if it
will help your stomach,
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but I'll tell you,
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I've seen things like
you where you've gotten here,
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you've been all
these fine doctors
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and they're all
note up on everything,
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and you come
here and you get well.
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How is it that
you got well here?
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What had this
program contributed
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or what do you
attribute to this wellness?
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Not only me,
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it's the people that
I've been associated with
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since I've been
here, all the attendees.
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There has been
some real miracles.
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Yes.
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Now with me, up until
a year and a half ago,
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I was in what I'd
consider perfect health
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except blood pressure problems,
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small blood pressure.
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But I got pneumonia last April.
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And then when I
was in the hospital,
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I got septic or sepsis,
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and they gave me antibiotics,
several antibiotics,
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and I had a
reaction to one of them,
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and I couldn't walk for a while.
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In fact, they
say that some people
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that have that
reaction never walked.
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You had over several
months, I understand.
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Yes.
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So it's been a long process.
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I've been doing a lot of
therapy, balance therapy,
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and that's when my
stomach gave me a problem.
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And...
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so I think what this
program has done for me,
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I think it is
the way I'm meeting
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why I'm here,
which I have to continue.
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It feels so good.
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It doesn't seem
reasonable that I'd go back.
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No. It doesn't seem reasonable.
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Now I know there's going
to be pulls when I get out,
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when I get out.
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You're not a prisoner. I know.
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When I get out of the home...
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But when I get home,
it's going to be a struggle,
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especially Thanksgiving,
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we got 37 people for dinner
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and everybody wants it.
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They don't want to
change this Thanksgiving.
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So they want the
same, and it will be.
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But I really feel
confident that I can do it.
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Yes. And not a doubt in my mind.
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Yes.
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That's the first step.
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When you know 100% of
you're just going to do it
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and stick to it,
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I mean, I eat with
family, they have turkey.
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And yeah, it looks
good, it smells good,
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but, you know, I don't need it.
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Why would I want to do?
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Why would I want to
live like I used to live
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with that sore
stomach or that enlarged body
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and extra hundred
pounds and heart palpitations?
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See the way I came in, Ron,
the way I'm going out of here,
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I don't want it
to be that way again.
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Yeah.
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I never want to
be that way again.
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Amen. I mean, I'm
sleeping better...
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Blood pressure is down to low,
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all my readings are great.
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It's just been a
great experience,
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and if I can do
it here in 18 days,
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I think I'll be like you
when I come back in six months.
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That's right, you
will. I visit. Yeah.
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You'll be there in six
months, I'm telling you.
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Well, I'm going to come back
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when you have the
dinners once a month.
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Yeah.
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For the few months,
I'm going to come back
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even though it's
three hours down,
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I'm going to come
back for that day.
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You know what
would be good? What?
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If you come back
during our program,
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during the year
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and let me
interview you up on the stage
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in front of a
100 or 200 people...
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I would do that, sure.
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That's a health seminar.
You'll get an email about it.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah, that'll be great.
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Yeah, that'd be fun.
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If I can do
anything to support this...
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Yeah. I'd be glad to do it.
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Great program.
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Well, your testimony
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and the fact
that you're here now
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is going to be a
tremendous benefit.
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We're going to broadcast
this all over the world.
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People will see this,
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and I want to take
the time to thank you
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'cause we're out of time.
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Chuck, God bless you, brother.
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I got you. Thank
you, and God bless you.
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We will see you again.
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But, friends, don't go
away, Dr. Lukens is up next.
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Every year in America,
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there are over
one million deaths
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because of type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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This includes heart
attacks and strokes.
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That's six and a half 747s
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crushing every day.
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What's even more surprising
is that the fix is easy.
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It's your lifestyle.
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Wouldn't it be nice
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if you could actually add
quality years to your life
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rather than dying
one organ at a time?
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Obesity and diabetes
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are the cause of over a
million deaths per year.
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Most diseases are reversible
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because most diseases
are lifestyle diseases,
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especially type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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Seriously now,
they can be reversed
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and the quality of
your life can be renewed.
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Call NEWSTART Today
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at 1-800-525-9192.
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You will see dramatic changes
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in the first few
days at our program,
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and you will be on the road
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to a better more
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The NEWSTART programs
are simple and effective.
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Welcome back, friends,
help me welcome Dr. Lukens.
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Thank you. Thank
you. It's good to see you.
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Thank you for bringing
all these nice people in.
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Well, thank you for taking
care of these nice people.
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This is a great group.
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It is. We had a wonderful time.
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Yeah, they're a great group,
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and it's reflected
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in the good
results they've gotten.
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Yeah, yeah, there
are tremendous results.
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And I want to
talk about Chuck now
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because Chuck...
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You know, his wife and
he came down to visit me,
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prior to them
signing up to the program
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'cause they live about
two hours away from us,
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and he just seemed like
a happy good looking guy
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and his wife was kind of...
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She didn't
necessarily have much to say,
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although she came with him.
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Yeah, that's wonderful.
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Isn't that a bit
of blessing for him?
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Oh, yeah, she's
the heart of that home.
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She's on board now, huh.
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You know, the
thing that's interesting,
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the reason why he's here
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is his daughter was
here four years ago,
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and she had the
gastric bypass surgery,
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and he said that she was
in and out of the hospital,
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trying to get her salts right,
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trying to get all
the things that she lose
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when all that stuff
goes roaring through.
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And after...
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And I didn't know
that this would happen,
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but after she went
through the program,
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this is four years ago,
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she came to see your folks here
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and that's why they
came is because of her.
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She looks great,
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and she hasn't been
back to the hospital.
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I mean,
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that's a whole
life changer, isn't it?
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That is.
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So anyway, now Charles or Chuck,
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he saw what
happened with his daughter
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and he was hoping that
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something like that
could happen with him.
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And another thing is that,
you know, as you get older,
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you get this intra abdominal fat
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and he probably had
some in his liver as well.
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We call that the
metabolic syndrome,
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and that's a really big thing
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because, even
our high school kids
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are getting it now.
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Do you think that where some
of the pain was coming from,
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the liver...
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No, it's just hard to tell,
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but yeah, of course, you know...
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But the thing was is that
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he also had problems
with rhythm in his heart.
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And one of the things
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that really, really bothered him
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is that he couldn't do anything
because he has something
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Dr. Crane would say it
was primary aldosteronism,
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and that means
that if you have that...
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I mean, if you
have a low potassium,
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you have that until
you prove otherwise and,
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you know, he was such a
good researcher and everything.
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But so he has these
potassium pills that he takes
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and he has to take sodium pills.
00:14:08.18\00:14:10.18
But he was really interesting.
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He still takes...
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He still takes some of the pills
00:14:13.65\00:14:15.75
for his potassium.
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But anyway,
00:14:17.59\00:14:21.16
his potassium has been stable.
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Now the other
thing was is that he just
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really, really
tanked up on the water,
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and he's looking forward
to a certain level procedure
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that they do on men so he can,
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you know, not have to
take medicine for that.
00:14:36.84\00:14:39.84
But he was so
hydrated that I said,
00:14:39.87\00:14:43.65
I looked at the
specific gravity on,
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and I said,
00:14:45.78\00:14:47.75
"Did you fill your
urine cup over at the sink?"
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His wife has a
good sense of humor.
00:14:51.49\00:14:53.05
She chuckled and
suffered. Yeah, right.
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But anyway,
00:14:56.16\00:14:58.39
he is so excited
about this because he said,
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"I just haven't felt so good
and so, you know, energetic."
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And he was afraid that
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he was diabetic or pre-diabetic
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and he wouldn't turn
me loose on that one so.
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Well, he's not on
anything for diabetes
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but we did a
hemoglobin A1c on him
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and up to like 5.6 around there
00:15:22.82\00:15:28.12
and his was 5.4.
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So I said, just expunge that,
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you don't have type 2 diabetes,
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and he was happy about that.
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But, you know,
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this is the kind of patients
that keeps here, you know.
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They get so exuberant
and so happy and healthy,
00:15:44.34\00:15:47.84
and then, I'm glad
that Dan's going to help us
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so we can follow him up.
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Absolutely.
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You know, I think he's
even changed his viewpoint
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on Christians in general.
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Yeah.
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'Cause he had a little
bit of resistance there.
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Well, you know, he told me that
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while we were walking
away from the cafeteria,
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and he told me, he said,
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you know, when I
was in my later teens,
00:16:08.66\00:16:12.07
he said, "I was reading a
book called The Desire of Ages."
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And he said, "I read it avidly."
00:16:17.31\00:16:19.44
And he said, "Now
that I've been here again,
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and I'm seeing what
you folks were saying,"
00:16:22.28\00:16:24.85
he said, "I'm going to
start reading that book."
00:16:24.88\00:16:28.35
He said, "It is
such a blessing."
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Wow!
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That is a blessing.
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Yeah, to us, to
him, and to Jesus.
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Amen.
00:16:36.66\00:16:38.29
Well, we're just
about out of time,
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any last comment you'd
like to make to our guests?
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Yeah.
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Well, when he gets out there,
00:16:45.73\00:16:47.07
he's going to bring
some more people in.
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Amen.
00:16:48.74\00:16:50.11
I like that idea. Yeah.
00:16:50.14\00:16:51.74
We're going to have to
grow, expand I should say.
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Doc, thank you very
much for your time...
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Yeah. And for coming.
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It's so wonderful to
see these people do better
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and some of them get well.
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Amen.
00:17:03.69\00:17:05.02
And, friends,
thank you for watching.
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But don't go away
00:17:07.42\00:17:08.76
'cause Pastor
Damon Snead is up next.
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Welcome back, friends,
help me welcome Pastor Snead.
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How are you? I'm
doing well, friend.
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Good to see you.
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You know, I want
to talk about Chuck.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
00:17:25.91\00:17:27.24
You know, he came
down from Redding,
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California to visit us.
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And he, of course
brought his wife with him
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and, you know, he
was just all smiling
00:17:33.65\00:17:36.28
and bubbly, and I go,
00:17:36.32\00:17:38.02
"Why is this guy
want to come here?"
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Well, he said, "Well, for
sure I want to lose some weight
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and, you know,
and other things."
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But I think something
more than that has happened.
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I see some shield is
just kind of melting away.
00:17:49.76\00:17:54.70
You know, felt more resistant
00:17:54.74\00:17:56.74
to this whole
Christianity aspect,
00:17:56.77\00:18:00.44
this love that
we share so openly
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with everyone who's there.
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But what about you?
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Does any of that
resonate with you?
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Oh yeah. I mean,
this is a great guy.
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I actually really
like him, you know.
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He's of a
different denomination,
00:18:14.89\00:18:16.86
that's great because we
have a good mix here usually.
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Yes.
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And, you know, in the beginning,
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he told me this too
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when he first met me, he said,
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"You know, when I first met you,
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I thought I don't
know about this guy."
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You know, because pastors
and preachers can come off
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usually in
negative light sometimes
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in all denominations,
struggle with this
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and, you know, he
began to share a story
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and he had some
really negative experiences
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in the beginning
of his Christian life,
00:18:46.89\00:18:48.82
you know, just typical stuff,
00:18:48.86\00:18:51.89
pastors with
bad habits or ideas,
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evangelistic...
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You know, just, I mean,
00:18:57.90\00:18:59.33
a lot of people
struggle with this,
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and so that can taint
your religious experience
00:19:01.14\00:19:04.67
and cause you to be
looking, always looking
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and trying to find
something different.
00:19:06.98\00:19:09.18
Well, you know,
we're seeing that
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with all face, I mean,
00:19:10.58\00:19:12.98
throughout Christianity
00:19:13.01\00:19:14.35
and Muslims and
Buddhists, you know.
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But particularly
in the limelight,
00:19:17.12\00:19:19.25
there's the Christian,
00:19:19.29\00:19:20.62
the Catholic Church,
the Methodist Church,
00:19:20.66\00:19:23.59
this church and that church
00:19:23.63\00:19:25.03
and, you know, this
just people are people,
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people are sinful by nature.
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Yeah, you got to realize that
00:19:29.63\00:19:33.87
that when we come to
church, people are sinful.
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Jesus said it, right?
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I've not come to
call the righteous
00:19:39.64\00:19:41.94
but the sick.
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That's right.
00:19:43.35\00:19:44.68
And so when we go to church
00:19:44.71\00:19:46.21
and a lot of people forget this,
00:19:46.25\00:19:48.52
they go to church
00:19:48.55\00:19:49.88
and their focus
is on other people
00:19:49.92\00:19:51.49
and then before you know it,
00:19:51.52\00:19:53.15
you're
disgruntled with Christianity.
00:19:53.19\00:19:54.79
You know, I don't want
to be like them, but that's,
00:19:54.82\00:19:57.56
you know, we're
all there together
00:19:57.59\00:19:58.93
for a reason.
00:19:58.96\00:20:00.30
If our eyes are on Christ,
00:20:00.33\00:20:01.70
then it changes the dynamics
00:20:01.73\00:20:03.87
of my relationship
with others, and I realize,
00:20:03.90\00:20:06.47
"Oh, he's messed
up as bad as I am."
00:20:06.50\00:20:08.57
So he's...
00:20:08.60\00:20:10.01
You know, I used to
be one of those guys
00:20:10.04\00:20:12.81
that look around
in the pews, they go,
00:20:12.84\00:20:14.81
"Oh, what is he doing here?
00:20:14.84\00:20:16.18
What is that one doing here?"
00:20:16.21\00:20:17.91
Someone said to me one day,
00:20:17.95\00:20:19.41
"Ron, don't you realize
00:20:19.45\00:20:21.72
the churches are
hospitals for sinners?"
00:20:21.75\00:20:25.69
That's right. I'm like, "Wow!"
00:20:25.72\00:20:28.59
It changed my whole
viewpoint about going to church.
00:20:28.62\00:20:33.29
And now I look at
all those others, I go,
00:20:33.33\00:20:36.26
"I'm one of them."
00:20:36.30\00:20:37.63
Dear, we're all the same.
00:20:37.67\00:20:39.00
And this is the good
thing about Fresh Start,
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Fresh Start is a hospital too.
00:20:40.64\00:20:42.17
They come here
for the health program
00:20:42.20\00:20:43.84
because they're sick.
00:20:43.87\00:20:45.21
Well, look, you
come to Fresh Start,
00:20:45.24\00:20:47.31
you're going to
find out we're all sick.
00:20:47.34\00:20:48.94
Amen.
00:20:48.98\00:20:50.31
You know, and
that's the beauty of it.
00:20:50.35\00:20:51.85
People start
looking at each other
00:20:51.88\00:20:54.48
but they start realizing
00:20:54.52\00:20:55.85
we're all got these problems
00:20:55.88\00:20:57.22
and what the
NEWSTART lecture does,
00:20:57.25\00:20:58.59
a Fresh Start lecture does
00:20:58.62\00:21:00.06
is I'm presenting
00:21:00.09\00:21:01.52
the spiritual
message of healing.
00:21:01.56\00:21:03.36
This is how we're
all going to be healed.
00:21:03.39\00:21:06.13
Amen.
00:21:06.16\00:21:07.50
And it was great
to see him really,
00:21:07.53\00:21:11.30
you know, I don't know,
00:21:11.33\00:21:12.67
to what level he's opened up
00:21:12.70\00:21:14.04
to the Adventist
understanding of the gospel,
00:21:14.07\00:21:17.37
but I present it as the gospel.
00:21:17.41\00:21:21.34
We're not trying to
make people Adventists
00:21:21.38\00:21:23.24
when we come in there,
00:21:23.28\00:21:24.61
our goal is to
present them to Christ.
00:21:24.65\00:21:27.45
Amen.
00:21:27.48\00:21:28.82
Get them to the throne room,
get them into better contact
00:21:28.85\00:21:31.85
with the Holy Spirit,
00:21:31.89\00:21:33.29
and then let God work on people
00:21:33.32\00:21:35.22
and bring them to
wherever they want to do.
00:21:35.26\00:21:37.39
And I think that
he appreciated that,
00:21:37.43\00:21:39.16
I mean, I'm assuming,
00:21:39.19\00:21:40.53
but I think it
would be safe to say
00:21:40.56\00:21:42.16
that he appreciated that aspect.
00:21:42.20\00:21:45.03
I think it's well received
because we've had more baptisms
00:21:45.07\00:21:49.00
since you've been here
for the last couple of years,
00:21:49.04\00:21:52.04
and the previous 15 or 20 years,
00:21:52.07\00:21:54.81
and I think that
people are coming here
00:21:54.84\00:21:57.71
and being blessed
physically and spiritually.
00:21:57.75\00:22:01.18
And I want to
thank you and thank God
00:22:01.22\00:22:04.52
that He's given you this message
00:22:04.55\00:22:07.26
that you give so freely.
00:22:07.29\00:22:08.72
And anyway,
00:22:08.76\00:22:10.09
we're running out
of time, how it goes.
00:22:10.13\00:22:12.69
How did that
happen? Thank you, Pastor.
00:22:12.73\00:22:15.06
God bless you.
00:22:15.10\00:22:16.43
Friends, don't go away
00:22:16.46\00:22:17.80
'cause Dr.
Nedley and Dr. Ramirez
00:22:17.83\00:22:20.07
are up next.
00:22:20.10\00:22:21.44
Welcome to NEWSTART Now.
00:22:25.61\00:22:27.21
I'm Dr. Neil Nedley,
00:22:27.24\00:22:28.58
and with me today
is Dr. Eddie Ramirez,
00:22:28.61\00:22:31.21
one of the
researching physicians
00:22:31.25\00:22:33.75
here at Weimar Institute
00:22:33.78\00:22:35.32
who also teaches
00:22:35.35\00:22:36.69
the research
methods and design class
00:22:36.72\00:22:39.22
at the Weimar Institute college,
00:22:39.25\00:22:41.26
which is an
exciting place for pre-med
00:22:41.29\00:22:43.89
and health career
type of searching students.
00:22:43.93\00:22:48.93
But today,
00:22:48.96\00:22:50.30
we are actually
going to discuss a study
00:22:50.33\00:22:52.60
that has been
accepted for publication
00:22:52.63\00:22:54.70
in the journal
atherosclerosis thrombosis
00:22:54.74\00:22:57.87
and vascular biology.
00:22:57.91\00:23:00.18
And many of our studies
that we produce here at Weimar
00:23:00.21\00:23:03.91
is looking at
thousands of patients
00:23:03.95\00:23:06.35
or at least
hundreds of patients.
00:23:06.38\00:23:08.38
Sometimes, we'll
take a look at like
00:23:08.42\00:23:10.25
just the
pediatric group and look at,
00:23:10.29\00:23:13.32
you know, 11 child cases
that came through with obesity.
00:23:13.36\00:23:18.09
But today,
00:23:18.13\00:23:19.46
I just like to
focus in on a study
00:23:19.49\00:23:23.10
that was
published for one patient.
00:23:23.13\00:23:26.17
Now why is the
journal allowing one patient?
00:23:26.20\00:23:29.57
Here's the thing.
00:23:29.60\00:23:30.94
Every one of our
studies is actually real people.
00:23:30.97\00:23:34.18
This isn't data,
00:23:34.21\00:23:35.54
when we're
dealing hundreds and tens
00:23:35.58\00:23:37.58
and thousands of patients,
those are all real lives,
00:23:37.61\00:23:41.35
and sometimes, it's good
to just focus in one patient
00:23:41.38\00:23:45.55
and what they came
with here to NEWSTART.
00:23:45.59\00:23:49.12
And this guy was a sick guy.
00:23:49.16\00:23:51.09
Tell us a little bit about him.
00:23:51.13\00:23:52.53
He had what we call
the metabolic syndrome.
00:23:52.56\00:23:55.36
He had diabetes,
he had hypertension,
00:23:55.40\00:23:58.87
his lipids were not very good,
00:23:58.90\00:24:01.54
and even though
00:24:01.57\00:24:03.17
he was taking three medications,
00:24:03.20\00:24:05.27
he was out of control.
00:24:05.31\00:24:07.48
Blood pressure were 150 over 78
00:24:07.51\00:24:10.38
when he came first
here to the NEWSTART,
00:24:10.41\00:24:13.42
he was taking three medications
00:24:13.45\00:24:15.32
and still his glucose
was not under control,
00:24:15.35\00:24:18.25
his blood pressure
was not under control.
00:24:18.29\00:24:21.09
Now ideally,
00:24:21.12\00:24:22.46
your systolic blood pressure
should be less than 115,
00:24:22.49\00:24:27.26
and so he was 150
despite three different.
00:24:27.30\00:24:31.00
That's right, two medications
for the blood pressure.
00:24:31.03\00:24:33.03
Yeah.
00:24:33.07\00:24:34.40
Okay, so use two
medicines for blood pressure
00:24:34.44\00:24:36.27
and one was
medicine for diabetes.
00:24:36.30\00:24:39.24
How much did
this gentleman weigh?
00:24:39.27\00:24:42.04
When he came here,
00:24:42.08\00:24:43.55
he was weighing 381 pounds.
00:24:43.58\00:24:49.22
And just in 18 days,
00:24:49.25\00:24:51.35
he was able to lose 16 pounds.
00:24:51.39\00:24:54.29
And one of the first things
00:24:54.32\00:24:55.92
that changed was
his blood pressure.
00:24:55.96\00:24:57.69
He end up with a blood
pressure of 116 over 72,
00:24:57.73\00:25:02.20
we have to actually decrease
00:25:02.23\00:25:03.57
some of the
medication he was taking.
00:25:03.60\00:25:05.17
Okay, so now he's
getting close to that ideal 116.
00:25:05.20\00:25:08.94
And that's very good
coming down from 150,
00:25:08.97\00:25:12.27
and you're actually
reducing the medicines
00:25:12.31\00:25:17.15
at the same time,
00:25:17.18\00:25:18.51
otherwise, it really
would have gotten too low.
00:25:18.55\00:25:20.75
So this was in
August when he came.
00:25:20.78\00:25:24.29
After he finished, he
didn't say, "Oh I finished.
00:25:24.32\00:25:25.99
I'm going to go back
to my old lifestyle."
00:25:26.02\00:25:27.69
No, he made a commitment
00:25:27.72\00:25:29.76
to change his
life so permanently.
00:25:29.79\00:25:32.23
So in August, he comes,
00:25:32.26\00:25:33.90
by the time that he
continues interacting
00:25:33.93\00:25:36.06
with his head physician,
00:25:36.10\00:25:37.60
by May, the next year,
00:25:37.63\00:25:40.07
his physician had to
suspend all medication.
00:25:40.10\00:25:42.77
He no longer
needed that medication.
00:25:42.80\00:25:44.84
Wow! So now he's
off all medicines.
00:25:44.87\00:25:47.28
And what is he
weighing about this time?
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270 pounds.
00:25:49.54\00:25:51.55
Okay, so he's lost 100 pounds.
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That's amazing.
00:25:55.68\00:25:57.02
And that's
without the complications
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of this gastric bypass surgery.
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That's right.
00:26:00.42\00:26:01.76
A lot of people are
going for gastric bypass,
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and I can tell you,
00:26:03.66\00:26:05.09
if you would find out
00:26:05.13\00:26:06.46
the
complications of this surgery,
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vitamin deficiencies,
all sorts of things,
00:26:08.63\00:26:11.33
the skin
changes that take place,
00:26:11.37\00:26:13.60
all of the lifestyle changes,
00:26:13.64\00:26:15.04
you're going to be forced to do,
00:26:15.07\00:26:17.47
you're much better
coming to NEWSTART.
00:26:17.51\00:26:19.64
Not only is it
far less expensive
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but it's a much
healthier way to go.
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And then by July...
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That happened in May,
by July, we do a lab test,
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everything perfectly
normal, cholesterols,
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and most encouraging
hemoglobin A1c of 5.5.
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He was no longer
considered a diabetic,
00:26:36.52\00:26:39.06
he actually had stopped
his diabetes completely.
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Wow.
00:26:42.10\00:26:43.43
So he reversed the diabetes
00:26:43.47\00:26:45.27
so he didn't even have
to be called a diabetic.
00:26:45.30\00:26:47.77
No longer having
high blood pressure.
00:26:47.80\00:26:50.11
And what is his
weight around this time then?
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So I don't have
the weight by then
00:26:51.94\00:26:55.04
but by August, I do
have his final weight.
00:26:55.08\00:27:00.02
So we started in August 2003.
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By January 2005, he
had lost 141 pounds.
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141 pounds.
00:27:07.62\00:27:10.93
So a totally new person.
00:27:10.96\00:27:12.93
Now energetic, now able to sleep
00:27:12.96\00:27:16.70
because of the excess weight
00:27:16.73\00:27:19.23
he was having
issues with sleep apnea
00:27:19.27\00:27:21.57
and these type of things.
00:27:21.60\00:27:22.94
Those things reverse as a result
00:27:22.97\00:27:25.17
of this intensive
lifestyle intervention.
00:27:25.21\00:27:28.08
A normal, healthy,
good looking individual,
00:27:28.11\00:27:32.35
now disease free
00:27:32.38\00:27:34.05
as a result of
coming to NEWSTART
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who was 380 pounds
00:27:36.38\00:27:38.02
and way out of control at first.
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Well, Eddie, it's exciting.
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I know why the journal
accepted this for publication
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because this can
also be someone you know
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or maybe yourself.
00:27:48.10\00:27:49.46
And I'm Dr. Neil Nedley,
and this is NEWSTART Now.
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Join us again next week.
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