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01:12 Hi, friends, and welcome to another edition
01:15 of NEWSTART Now. 01:16 I'm your host, Ron Giannoni. 01:19 In our studios with me today, I have Carol Smullens, 01:23 all the way from beautiful Santa Barbara, California. 01:27 Let's take a look at when Carol first arrived. 01:33 The reason I'm here 01:34 is because I had been praying and trying 01:37 to put things in order in my life for a while, 01:41 and I'd come close but I always missed the mark 01:44 and just got out of hand 01:45 and my health is kind of taking, 01:48 you know, a path of challenge. 01:51 And I heard about this place and I thought Christian, 01:56 whole foods, exercise, teaching, 01:59 and I thought that's exactly what I need. 02:02 I was not able to do that myself. 02:05 And I feel like God has led me here to be healed 02:07 and to find my path. 02:12 And I'm taking five medications now, 02:14 I'm taking something for my thyroid, 02:18 and a blood thinner and a heart medicine, 02:23 and something to prevent stroke. 02:27 And I would like to get off all of them. 02:30 I didn't realize until the last night. 02:33 I've been wanting to change my schedule 02:34 that I would get up earlier and go to bed earlier. 02:37 And now I'm going to be doing that, 02:39 at least I did last night. 02:41 So, I'm looking forward to that. 02:45 Welcome back, friends. 02:47 Help me in welcoming Carol. 02:48 Hi, Ron. How are you doing? 02:50 I'm doing very well. Thanks. 02:51 You look bubbly. 02:54 Very happy. 02:56 Yeah, I didn't tell. 02:57 Well, you were happy when you got here? 02:59 I was happy because I really expected a trust 03:01 that God had led me here that this was the place for me. 03:05 And so you did that trust, you came here. 03:10 Has it met your expectations? 03:12 Oh, absolutely. 03:14 Even exceeded a bit. 03:16 I had a lot of goals when I first came. 03:18 I wanted to kind of get my life back in order. 03:21 I felt like it had gotten... 03:23 My life was good, 03:24 but it felt like it was kind of chaotic in my sleep habits, 03:27 my eating habits and just all sorts of things. 03:30 And honestly, 03:33 just to come here in this beautiful setting, 03:36 surrounded by all these wonderful people 03:38 who are so invested, personally invested in us, 03:42 so kind, loving. 03:43 I mean, really, I can't say enough about the staff here, 03:46 even, you know, the doctors, 03:47 the therapists, the nurses, everyone. 03:50 But I wanted to get my sleep habits in order. 03:54 I wanted to learn how to eat. 03:59 I've been bouncing from diet to diet for years, 04:02 and it would work a little bit, and then I would fail. 04:06 And then, of course, 04:07 I would get really sad about that. 04:10 And I just kept bouncing around. 04:11 I kept praying, "Lord, please will You help me 04:13 figure this out." 04:15 And I really feel that He led me here 04:17 and it has just really changed 04:21 how I think about everything. 04:23 And I never thought vegan could taste so good, 04:27 and they've taught us 04:28 how to make all these wonderful recipes. 04:30 And honestly, 04:31 I never want to go back but the classes, 04:34 the lectures that we've had 04:35 are like college level lectures, 04:37 these are not just, 04:39 you know, little tiny presentations 04:41 by some person who decided they could do this 04:44 or who had success on a diet. 04:46 These are doctors teaching these lessons. 04:49 And I have learned so much, my head was spinning at times. 04:53 But another goal I really, really wanted to do 04:55 is because my ankles and my feet have hurt 04:58 so much for so long, 05:00 I couldn't walk very far. 05:02 I might have gotten maybe a 10th of a mile 05:04 and then being exhausted. 05:06 And every time I go somewhere with somebody, 05:08 they have to like, drop me at the front door, 05:11 because I can't walk from 05:12 wherever they were going to park. 05:15 And now I'm over three miles a day. 05:18 Wow. 05:19 And I'm not... 05:20 I mean, I'm not falling apart. 05:22 I can rest a little bit and then I can walk more. 05:25 So, I am really excited about this, 05:30 and I can't wait till people see the difference in me. 05:33 Carol, let's start with the sleep problem you had 05:37 because a lot of our viewers, 05:39 maybe half of them have a problem with sleep. 05:43 Your problem was, 05:44 you didn't sleep or you slept too long. 05:47 You woke up too late or what was that? 05:50 I just could not get out of bed in the morning. 05:52 I just did not want to, everything hurt. 05:54 I just didn't want to get out of bed. 05:56 And then I would get up at the very last minute 05:59 and then rush around to get out of the house on time. 06:02 And then, that starts the chaos of the day, right? 06:04 Yes. 06:05 And then, at night, I come back and I just be so tired 06:08 and I sort of wedge out 06:09 in front of my Netflix or something. 06:13 I just sort of not... 06:16 I didn't have the energy, I didn't have, 06:18 you know, and I would stay up... 06:20 Even though I was tired, 06:21 I would stay up till one or two in the morning. 06:23 And then I wouldn't get enough sleep. 06:25 Wow. 06:26 And then... And now? 06:27 And now I'm going to bed at 9, 9:30 06:31 and I'm getting up at 5:15 or 5:30. 06:34 And I'm feeling really good, and I don't need a nap. 06:37 I'm always wanting a nap, you know, 06:39 but I don't need a nap anymore. 06:41 Praise God. Yeah. 06:42 So you're off all your meds, too? 06:44 No, not completely. 06:46 But only because I promised my cardiologist back home, 06:49 I would wait for a total of 30 days, 06:51 so when we get home, 06:53 we're gonna have a conversation about that 06:54 because my heart has been great. 06:56 And you're off your other medications? 06:59 I only had those medications. 07:01 I didn't really have a lot of medications. 07:03 You didn't. Okay. Yeah. 07:04 Well, that's good. Yeah. 07:06 Yeah. Now, your weight? 07:07 You lost a few pounds. I did, I lost 12 pounds. 07:10 So that's a good start. 07:11 I've been wanting to do that, but now I know how to do it. 07:13 I know the foods to eat. 07:16 And, you know, the thought that occurred to me this morning was 07:19 since I've been bouncing around all these diets 07:21 for so many years, 07:23 and a diet is really a temporary thing. 07:27 And then, you're going to start your life. 07:30 I don't have to ever diet again 07:32 because this is my lifestyle now. 07:34 Yes. I am so excited about that. 07:36 I feel free. Yeah. 07:39 Not bound up by just a list of rules 07:42 that will be for a part time and it's never gonna work. 07:44 It was designed almost to fail. 07:46 So what was your favorite part of the program? 07:51 I think lunch. 07:53 Lunch? Lunch. 07:55 The food in the cafeteria was so good. 07:57 Now, I can't really put my finger on one favorite thing 08:00 because I loved getting together 08:03 with all the other, people came. 08:04 That was fun. 08:06 People from all over the place, all over the country came here. 08:09 Some all over the world. I love the cooking classes. 08:11 They were wonderful and really instructive. 08:14 I love the lectures, even though, 08:16 you know, some of it was over my head, 08:19 even though the doctors would go into really 08:21 the medical scientific background, I think, 08:23 "Oh, dear," but then they always say, 08:25 and therefore this is what it means, 08:27 you know, and they would always bring it back to that. 08:28 So I really feel like I've learned a lot. 08:31 It's changed my opinion 08:33 of a lot of things that I was doing. 08:34 What about the fresh start in the morning? 08:36 Oh, that was wonderful. 08:38 It was wonderful. 08:39 We would be singing these beautiful hymns. 08:42 And then we would have this really deep Bible study, 08:47 every morning, and it was wonderful. 08:49 We had a great pastor leading that. 08:51 That was great. 08:54 Yeah. Yeah. 08:55 So, your favorite part was lunch? 08:58 I don't know, that just came out. 09:00 Now I know. 09:01 I think they're all my favorite parts, really. 09:03 I didn't have any favorite part. 09:05 I loved it all. I did. 09:06 I loved it all. 09:08 So, you're okay to go home now? 09:10 Yeah. I am. 09:11 And you're gonna stick with it? Absolutely. 09:14 And you're gonna stay in touch with us? 09:15 I am. 09:17 And report it to your doctor? Yeah. 09:18 Because the doctors love to hear from you. 09:20 Yeah. I know. I'll be calling my doctor. 09:24 I wanted to take this time 09:25 because we're almost out of time 09:27 to thank you for coming on the set 09:30 and giving your testimony. 09:32 And God bless you. God bless you, too, Ron. 09:34 And we'll be in touch. Okay. 09:36 And thank you, friends, but don't go away 09:38 because Dr. Lukens is up next. 09:43 Every year in America 09:44 there are over one million deaths 09:45 because of Type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 09:48 This includes heart attacks and strokes. 09:51 That's six and half 747 crashing every day. 09:54 What's even more surprising is that the fix is easy. 09:57 It's your lifestyle. 09:59 Wouldn't it be nice 10:00 if you could actually add quality years to your life 10:02 rather than dying one organ at a time? 10:05 Obesity and diabetes 10:07 are the cause of over million deaths per year. 10:09 Most diseases are reversible 10:11 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases, 10:14 especially Type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 10:18 Seriously now, they can be reversed 10:20 and the quality of your life can be renewed. 10:24 Call NEWSTART today at 1-800-525-9192. 10:30 You will see dramatic changes 10:31 in the first few days of our program, 10:33 and you'll be on the road to a better more robust 10:36 quality of life. 10:38 The NEWSTART programs are simple and effective. 10:43 Welcome back, friends. 10:45 Help me welcome Dr. Lukens. 10:47 Very good. This is an exciting one. 10:49 They're all good, but this one's quite exciting. 10:52 Why is this exciting for you? 10:54 Well, you, we will get into it. Okay. 10:58 Well, you know, I'm excited, too. 11:01 Because this... 11:02 She's so loving, she's so noticeably... 11:06 She's a spiritual leader. 11:09 Yeah. 11:10 You were telling us earlier that she's a lay pastor. 11:13 Yeah, I like that. Yeah. 11:16 Loving people through the Bible. 11:18 Yeah. She... 11:20 That came out during the interview with her. 11:23 But she's lost some weight. Yeah. 11:26 She came here to lose weight and clean up her act. 11:29 Now she's sleeping for the first time in years. 11:35 And I think that's miracle. Good deep sleep. 11:37 Yes. 11:38 Why is that? 11:40 The other thing that today she said, 11:42 I don't have any pain in my feet. 11:44 And I don't have any pain in my ankles 11:47 and today is the first day that happened. 11:50 That's because of the plant based foods. 11:54 That's known, it's in the literature. 11:56 Tufts University says that 11:59 if you eat the plant based fats, 12:01 it decreases the inflammation. 12:04 We know that, but does it also make you sleep better? 12:09 Well, you know, if you're not having pain, 12:11 that's a long ways down the street. 12:13 Yeah. Yeah. 12:14 Yeah, yeah. 12:16 You see the thing that is so interesting to me, 12:20 as she said... 12:23 And I can't believe this. 12:26 But there really isn't much of anything that you can do, 12:30 when you get this massive edema in your legs, 12:34 they have to wrap them. 12:35 And she's had to wrap her legs every day for 10 years. 12:41 That gets old after the first week. 12:43 No, absolutely. 12:45 So, anyway, it was really funny because the other day, 12:50 I think it was on the second visit, 12:52 she said, "Doctor, I want to tell you something." 12:56 I can see space between my toes. 13:01 And she was just bubbling over because she didn't, you know, 13:05 she didn't think that she'd be able to get away 13:08 but 10 years every morning get up 13:11 wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap. 13:13 Terrible. 13:14 Yeah, so she did that and then she... 13:17 You know, with the pain and so forth, 13:19 she couldn't walk but I, 13:21 you know, I challenged her 13:24 and I said something about walking a mile, 13:26 and she kinda like... 13:27 And then I said, yeah, and then, next week, 13:30 you should be walking two, you know. 13:32 And she told me today that she did the three. 13:35 Yes. 13:36 And she was just beaming, you know, 13:39 and so happy about everything. 13:42 You know, to find that she could eat two meals a day, 13:45 really, really enjoy it... 13:47 And not be hungry. 13:49 Yeah, and not be hungry between meals, and, 13:52 so these are the kind of things that keeps us going. 13:56 You know, she said also back to walking. 14:00 That, when she got here, 14:01 she could always only walk about a 10th of a mile. 14:04 Yeah. 14:06 And gradually built up to three miles in a day. 14:09 Yeah. She was... That's big. 14:11 She was just excited 14:12 when she saw me and she said I did it. 14:15 Yeah. 14:16 So, is Carol gonna be one of those 14:19 that stick to the program do you suppose? 14:22 We're not gonna let her get away. 14:26 Well, you know, with Daniel Murawski. 14:31 Yeah? 14:33 When he came here, he said, "Hey, 14:35 what you've been here 30 years, Doc, what do you really need?" 14:40 And I said, "We have to be able to follow the people up 14:44 that want to be followed up." 14:46 Yes. And he's setting it up. 14:47 But, I mean, 14:50 I used to give them calendars and maybe in a group of, 14:54 you know, 18 to 25, 14:57 I might get one out of the whole group 14:59 and that's like journaling, and I'm thinking, 15:04 they paid their money, they came here, 15:05 they took their time and everything. 15:07 Why can't they make it all the way to the post office 15:11 with an envelope and a stamp on it and the... 15:14 in the aid we calendar 15:15 and tell me how they're doing but... 15:18 I did that for a long time. 15:20 I did, I filled out those calendars. 15:23 I never send them in. I just stack them up. 15:26 Yeah, I have a lady the other day 15:27 when I was talking to the researcher here, 15:31 this was Nedley. 15:32 And she called up and so I said, 15:36 "Just wait a minute," because I... 15:39 She does that too. 15:40 She sends me about three or four-minute time. 15:43 But she's... 15:45 The thing is, one of the hardest thing is, 15:48 is it was popular out there, you see. 15:50 Yeah. 15:52 And now coconut oil is a complete pass. 15:58 The stomach when it sends a message over 16:01 to make more cholesterol, 16:03 so as you can add some bile to emulsify the fat, 16:08 the stomach's not watching, 16:10 oh, here comes some mezan oil 16:13 and here comes some triple virgin 16:15 double cold pressed olive oil. 16:18 And, you know, it's just oil is oil, fat is... 16:22 Well, no, fat is usually from animals, 16:25 but, you know that. 16:27 It's really surprising. 16:28 And then there's always a study that shows it 16:31 something's good that does the same thing 16:34 that the others do. 16:36 But it's not the saturated fat and the animal fats 16:39 cause a lot of irritation. 16:41 We're running out of time, Doc. 16:43 Thank you. 16:44 God bless you and your ministry. 16:47 Thank you, friends. 16:48 But don't go away 16:49 because Pastor Damon Snead is up next. 16:55 Welcome back, friends. Help me welcome Pastor Snead. 16:58 How are you, Brother? I'm doing great, Brother. 17:00 Good to see you. Thank you. 17:02 Well, you know, 17:04 I just gotta say this, 17:07 that it seems like we get a lot of people here 17:11 who are suffering the loss 17:14 of a spouse, 17:17 or a family member, a child, 17:20 or father or whatever the case may be. 17:22 And that seems to be what's going on with Carol. 17:26 It's been some time. 17:28 But how is she doing spiritually? 17:32 Spiritually, she's another one that came here 17:34 buzzing on another level. 17:36 And she's got a tragic story. 17:39 You know, she's suffering from a disease 17:43 and she lost her husband, 17:45 but that drove her out of her religion of birth 17:50 into this search, 17:51 where she's looking, looking, searching, looking. 17:54 She's lost her husband. 17:55 She's looking for God in deeper and deeper ways. 17:58 I just think that's so important 18:00 when people are suffering when they've lost someone, 18:02 a lot of times they try to go out 18:04 and get into another relationship 18:05 or they get involved with this or other things. 18:08 And it just leads to emptiness and unfulfillment, 18:11 but she's doing what you were supposed to do, 18:14 taking that opportunity 18:16 and using it to find God in deeper ways. 18:19 And, of course, she did. 18:20 She ends up in ministry. 18:23 She's very influential where she's at 18:25 and helping other women, 18:26 women's ministries, what she's actually into. 18:29 And she's got a great story to help other women 18:32 and other people get through loss 18:34 and grief and suffering. 18:35 And, so she's got this wonderful ministry, 18:38 but that wasn't all 18:40 that she was actually looking for needed. 18:43 Right. 18:44 And so she's here, 18:46 and she's finding what she was looking for. 18:48 Yeah. 18:50 And I see her opening up more and more and more. 18:53 Thanks to your message. And thanks to your counsel. 18:56 I know God has blessed you in a mighty way. 18:59 Nonetheless, you have a tremendous responsibility. 19:04 And I praise God 19:07 that He's able to enlighten this campus. 19:10 Well, you know, 19:12 and I know that from talking to her, 19:14 she's received the gospel in deeper way. 19:18 But what I think she came here looking for, 19:20 and what she expressed to me was 19:21 the connection of health to her gospel, 19:25 the improvement of the body, 19:27 she starts, she said, I get it. 19:29 I understand that better health 19:33 is part of God's gospel plan for me. 19:35 It's not the gospel, 19:37 but it is part of God's desire to heal us. 19:41 Because the better you feel, the clearer the mind is, 19:46 the more receptive ability we have, 19:49 and we teach that to God 19:51 and she's catching that, 19:52 she's picking up on that, 19:53 and she's excited now about the health message 19:56 and now she wants to add that to her ministry, 19:59 it help other people overcome their health issues. 20:03 You know, when I read... Paul said, 20:06 in so many ways, or I'll paraphrase, 20:10 "Don't you know that this body 20:11 is the temple of the Holy Spirit." 20:14 And I truly know that 20:15 and I've witnessed that and I see it, 20:17 not just for myself when I came here 13 years ago, 20:21 very, very sick man. 20:23 And I've lost all this weight and diabetes known. 20:27 And so, this is where I found Christ. 20:30 And it keeps going into deeper waters 20:34 as you put it. 20:36 I was like, when I was baptized, 20:37 I was ankle deep. 20:39 And now I'm up in knees 20:41 and you've got me down in the deep water. 20:43 It's coming up to my neck. 20:45 I'm about to be submerged once again. 20:48 And it's just a great feeling. 20:50 And I welcome and I'm glad to see 20:52 that our guests who come here 20:54 can not only grow physically 20:57 and get well physically but spiritually. 20:59 Sure. 21:01 In all, I've given her some great ideas 21:03 to even go deeper with God 21:05 and she's one of these 21:06 that will mine out that rich ore 21:09 and dig down deeper, 21:11 both in spiritual ways. 21:12 I've given her new concepts to look into 21:17 and also with her health. 21:19 And these two things are gonna work together 21:20 and she's gonna be a force to contend 21:23 with wherever she goes, she's gonna do great. 21:27 She's a junior pastor, is she? 21:28 She's some kind of a pastor or minister in the church 21:32 in this nondenominational church 21:35 where she's at. 21:37 Good for her. Good for her. 21:38 I know she'll have a lot of juice 21:40 to take back to that. 21:41 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 21:43 Guess what? We're out of time right now. 21:47 Good to talk with you. All right. 21:48 God bless you and your ministry. 21:50 Don't go away, Dr. Nedley and Dr. Ramirez up next. 22:30 Welcome to Weimar Institute Research. 22:33 And today, we have a study 22:36 that was actually designed and carried out 22:38 by Dr. Ramirez himself, 22:41 the Director of Weimar Institute Research, 22:44 and also very involved in the Weimar College 22:47 in teaching research. 22:49 Now Dr. Ramirez, a lot of the studies, 22:51 you're analyzing data 22:54 from multiple countries. 22:57 But this is actually a group 22:59 that you, yourself were involved in. 23:01 Tell us a little bit about this group? 23:03 That's right. 23:04 The students were able to get a hold of this data 23:06 and help publish this paper. 23:09 And the focus of this study was 23:12 what happens when you get the NEWSTART principles 23:15 and you teach them in a community setting. 23:17 Okay. 23:18 Now, NEWSTART is well-known 23:20 to have its residential lifestyle program. 23:22 And we have published a lot 23:24 in regards to the improvement in lipids 23:27 and many other health parameters 23:28 by spending 19 days with us here at NEWSTART. 23:32 But this is taking a look 23:34 at an intensive community program 23:37 where they're not having to live here. 23:38 That's right. 23:40 And so did you feed them like we do here in NEWSTART? 23:42 No, not necessarily. 23:43 I just went, this was a Sunday church, 23:45 a nondenominational church, 23:46 a pastor invited me to go to this church. 23:49 There were many health issues in that church, 23:51 and he said, "Could you help us improve our health?" 23:54 So the pastor himself, as a result of this program, 23:57 became a full plant based person. 24:00 And the participants of this study 24:04 were enthusiastic. 24:06 It was a senior population, most of them. 24:09 And I remember one of them. 24:11 He came and talked to me and said, 24:13 "Look, my wife brought me to this two-week program. 24:16 Forget it. 24:17 I'm not going to change my diet." 24:19 At the end of the two weeks, he came to apologize. 24:21 "I'm sorry that I told you that. 24:23 We decided to switch our diet to a vegan diet. 24:26 We went to the shelter 24:27 and gave away all our fridge food. 24:29 And we're going to start new with the new diet." 24:31 So it did create long term change. 24:34 Wow, amazing. 24:35 So someone who was very resistant to change, 24:38 as a result of true education actually totally changed 24:42 what they were putting into their mouths 24:44 and ways that they thought they never would. 24:46 And the reason why they were so enthusiastic is that 24:51 at the beginning of the program, 24:53 we took blood samples, 24:54 and their cholesterol was way above 24:58 what should be normal. 24:59 He had a 234 points, 25:03 that cholesterol. 25:04 The guideline says 200, but the ideal should be 150. 25:08 But still, you know, 25:10 that's way above those two guidelines. 25:12 You know, it's interesting. 25:14 Years ago, I remember Dr. Scharfenberg 25:16 talking to a group of pastors who asked him a question. 25:20 How can we get people more interested 25:23 in issues of salvation? 25:24 And he says, "I will tell you, take their blood, 25:27 find out what their cholesterol is, 25:29 give them the result and they will cry out 25:31 what must I do to be saved?" 25:35 And that's exactly what happened. 25:37 They cried out. "What must I do to be saved?" 25:39 And were you able to save them? 25:41 Yes. 25:42 Well, even the LDL, 25:44 very worrisome 147 LDL. 25:47 Very high. 25:49 Some of them taking statins, even with statins, 25:51 they had this type of high levels of cholesterol 25:54 and bad cholesterol. 25:56 And after those two-week, it changed. 26:00 I spoke to them three times before the next blood sample. 26:04 And by the end of that two weeks, 26:08 their cholesterol had got down to 177. 26:13 And also, it went down beyond that 200. 26:16 And their bad cholesterol, 26:18 that LDL cholesterol went down to 122. 26:23 So... 26:24 Those are dramatic differences from 224 to 177, 26:28 in just two weeks, 26:30 with an educational program, 26:32 and their LDLs plummeting from a very high 147, 26:36 where that stroke, heart attack rate 26:39 down to 122 in just two weeks and who knows 26:42 what it would have been at six weeks 26:44 had you measured it? 26:45 And as a result of this action, 26:47 this had a community wide implication. 26:50 I want to talk to the businessman 26:52 and told him, I need you to bring healthy food 26:54 because there was not too many options. 26:55 He didn't believe me. He brought two or three things. 26:58 Bam! People bought these things. 27:00 People got upset with him, 27:01 "Hey, the doctor said 27:03 you're gonna have these things." 27:04 He now knew that this was serious. 27:06 We start stocking up his store with healthy products 27:09 so that people could continue 27:10 with this healthy lifestyle long term. 27:13 It's consumerism that drives the commercial aspect, 27:16 not the other way around. 27:18 And so, yeah, they learned that. 27:20 Now our students at Weimar Institute 27:22 actually took a look at the results 27:25 and compiled them along with yourself. 27:28 And was this published then? 27:29 Yeah, this was actually published 27:31 in an American Heart Association journal 27:34 called Atherosclerosis Thrombosis 27:36 and Vascular Biology Journal. 27:38 Wow. 27:40 Amazing the difference with just health education 27:43 provided by Dr. Eddie Ramirez, 27:46 Director of Research at Weimar Institute. 27:50 And thank you for joining us at Weimar Institute Research. |
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