Hi, friends, and
welcome to another edition
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of NEWSTART Now.
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I'm your host, Ron Giannoni.
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In our studios with me
today, I have Carol Smullens,
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all the way from beautiful
Santa Barbara, California.
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Let's take a look at
when Carol first arrived.
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The reason I'm here
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is because I had
been praying and trying
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to put things in order
in my life for a while,
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and I'd come close but
I always missed the mark
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and just got out of hand
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and my health is kind of taking,
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you know, a path of challenge.
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And I heard about this
place and I thought Christian,
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whole foods, exercise, teaching,
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and I thought
that's exactly what I need.
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I was not able
to do that myself.
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And I feel like God has
led me here to be healed
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and to find my path.
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And I'm taking
five medications now,
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I'm taking
something for my thyroid,
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and a blood thinner
and a heart medicine,
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and something to prevent stroke.
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And I would like to
get off all of them.
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I didn't realize
until the last night.
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I've been wanting
to change my schedule
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that I would get up
earlier and go to bed earlier.
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And now I'm
going to be doing that,
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at least I did last night.
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So, I'm looking forward to that.
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Welcome back, friends.
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Help me in welcoming Carol.
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Hi, Ron. How are you doing?
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I'm doing very well. Thanks.
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You look bubbly.
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Very happy.
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Yeah, I didn't tell.
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Well, you were
happy when you got here?
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I was happy because I
really expected a trust
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that God had led me here
that this was the place for me.
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And so you did that
trust, you came here.
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Has it met your expectations?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Even exceeded a bit.
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I had a lot of
goals when I first came.
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I wanted to kind of
get my life back in order.
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I felt like it had gotten...
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My life was good,
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but it felt like it was kind
of chaotic in my sleep habits,
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my eating habits and
just all sorts of things.
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And honestly,
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just to come here in
this beautiful setting,
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surrounded by all
these wonderful people
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who are so invested,
personally invested in us,
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so kind, loving.
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I mean, really, I can't say
enough about the staff here,
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even, you know, the doctors,
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the therapists,
the nurses, everyone.
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But I wanted to get
my sleep habits in order.
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I wanted to learn how to eat.
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I've been bouncing
from diet to diet for years,
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and it would work a little
bit, and then I would fail.
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And then, of course,
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I would get
really sad about that.
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And I just kept bouncing around.
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I kept praying, "Lord,
please will You help me
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figure this out."
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And I really feel
that He led me here
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and it has just really changed
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how I think about everything.
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And I never thought
vegan could taste so good,
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and they've taught us
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how to make all
these wonderful recipes.
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And honestly,
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I never want to go
back but the classes,
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the lectures that we've had
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are like college level lectures,
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these are not just,
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you know, little
tiny presentations
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by some person who
decided they could do this
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or who had success on a diet.
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These are doctors
teaching these lessons.
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And I have learned so much,
my head was spinning at times.
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But another goal I
really, really wanted to do
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is because my ankles
and my feet have hurt
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so much for so long,
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I couldn't walk very far.
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I might have gotten
maybe a 10th of a mile
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and then being exhausted.
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And every time I go
somewhere with somebody,
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they have to like,
drop me at the front door,
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because I can't walk from
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wherever they
were going to park.
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And now I'm over
three miles a day.
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Wow.
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And I'm not...
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I mean, I'm not falling apart.
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I can rest a little bit
and then I can walk more.
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So, I am really
excited about this,
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and I can't wait till
people see the difference in me.
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Carol, let's start with
the sleep problem you had
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because a lot of our viewers,
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maybe half of them
have a problem with sleep.
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Your problem was,
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you didn't sleep
or you slept too long.
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You woke up too
late or what was that?
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I just could not get
out of bed in the morning.
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I just did not want
to, everything hurt.
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I just didn't
want to get out of bed.
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And then I would get
up at the very last minute
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and then rush around to
get out of the house on time.
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And then, that starts
the chaos of the day, right?
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Yes.
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And then, at night, I come
back and I just be so tired
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and I sort of wedge out
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in front of my
Netflix or something.
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I just sort of not...
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I didn't have the
energy, I didn't have,
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you know, and I would stay up...
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Even though I was tired,
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I would stay up till
one or two in the morning.
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And then I
wouldn't get enough sleep.
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Wow.
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And then... And now?
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And now I'm
going to bed at 9, 9:30
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and I'm getting
up at 5:15 or 5:30.
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And I'm feeling really
good, and I don't need a nap.
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I'm always
wanting a nap, you know,
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but I don't need a nap anymore.
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Praise God. Yeah.
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So you're off
all your meds, too?
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No, not completely.
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But only because I promised
my cardiologist back home,
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I would wait for
a total of 30 days,
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so when we get home,
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we're gonna have a
conversation about that
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because my heart has been great.
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And you're off
your other medications?
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I only had those medications.
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I didn't really have
a lot of medications.
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You didn't. Okay. Yeah.
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Well, that's good. Yeah.
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Yeah. Now, your weight?
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You lost a few pounds.
I did, I lost 12 pounds.
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So that's a good start.
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I've been wanting to do that,
but now I know how to do it.
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I know the foods to eat.
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And, you know, the thought that
occurred to me this morning was
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since I've been
bouncing around all these diets
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for so many years,
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and a diet is
really a temporary thing.
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And then, you're
going to start your life.
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I don't have to ever diet again
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because this is
my lifestyle now.
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Yes. I am so excited about that.
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I feel free. Yeah.
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Not bound up by
just a list of rules
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that will be for a part
time and it's never gonna work.
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It was designed almost to fail.
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So what was your
favorite part of the program?
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I think lunch.
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Lunch? Lunch.
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The food in the
cafeteria was so good.
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Now, I can't really put my
finger on one favorite thing
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because I loved getting together
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with all the other, people came.
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That was fun.
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People from all over the place,
all over the country came here.
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Some all over the world.
I love the cooking classes.
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They were wonderful
and really instructive.
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I love the
lectures, even though,
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you know, some of
it was over my head,
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even though the
doctors would go into really
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the medical
scientific background, I think,
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"Oh, dear," but
then they always say,
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and therefore
this is what it means,
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you know, and they would
always bring it back to that.
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So I really feel
like I've learned a lot.
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It's changed my opinion
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of a lot of
things that I was doing.
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What about the fresh
start in the morning?
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Oh, that was wonderful.
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It was wonderful.
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We would be singing
these beautiful hymns.
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And then we would have
this really deep Bible study,
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every morning,
and it was wonderful.
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We had a great
pastor leading that.
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That was great.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So, your
favorite part was lunch?
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I don't know,
that just came out.
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Now I know.
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I think they're all my
favorite parts, really.
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I didn't have any favorite part.
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I loved it all. I did.
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I loved it all.
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So, you're okay to go home now?
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Yeah. I am.
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And you're gonna
stick with it? Absolutely.
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And you're gonna
stay in touch with us?
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I am.
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And report it to
your doctor? Yeah.
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Because the doctors
love to hear from you.
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Yeah. I know. I'll
be calling my doctor.
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I wanted to take this time
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because we're almost out of time
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to thank you for
coming on the set
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and giving your testimony.
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And God bless you.
God bless you, too, Ron.
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And we'll be in touch. Okay.
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And thank you,
friends, but don't go away
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because Dr. Lukens is up next.
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Every year in America
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there are over
one million deaths
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because of Type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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This includes heart
attacks and strokes.
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That's six and half
747 crashing every day.
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What's even more surprising
is that the fix is easy.
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It's your lifestyle.
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Wouldn't it be nice
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if you could actually add
quality years to your life
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rather than dying
one organ at a time?
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Obesity and diabetes
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are the cause of over
million deaths per year.
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Most diseases are reversible
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because most diseases
are lifestyle diseases,
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especially Type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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Seriously now,
they can be reversed
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and the quality of
your life can be renewed.
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Call NEWSTART
today at 1-800-525-9192.
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You will see dramatic changes
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in the first few
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and you'll be on the
road to a better more robust
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quality of life.
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The NEWSTART programs
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Welcome back, friends.
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Help me welcome Dr. Lukens.
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Very good. This
is an exciting one.
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They're all good, but
this one's quite exciting.
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Why is this exciting for you?
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Well, you, we
will get into it. Okay.
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Well, you know,
I'm excited, too.
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Because this...
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She's so loving,
she's so noticeably...
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She's a spiritual leader.
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Yeah.
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You were telling us
earlier that she's a lay pastor.
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Yeah, I like that. Yeah.
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Loving people through the Bible.
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Yeah. She...
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That came out during
the interview with her.
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But she's lost
some weight. Yeah.
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She came here to lose
weight and clean up her act.
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Now she's sleeping for
the first time in years.
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And I think that's
miracle. Good deep sleep.
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Yes.
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Why is that?
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The other thing
that today she said,
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I don't have
any pain in my feet.
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And I don't have
any pain in my ankles
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and today is the
first day that happened.
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That's because of
the plant based foods.
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That's known,
it's in the literature.
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Tufts University says that
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if you eat the plant based fats,
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it decreases the inflammation.
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We know that, but does it
also make you sleep better?
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Well, you know, if
you're not having pain,
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that's a long
ways down the street.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You see the thing that
is so interesting to me,
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as she said...
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And I can't believe this.
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But there really isn't much
of anything that you can do,
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when you get this
massive edema in your legs,
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they have to wrap them.
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And she's had to wrap her
legs every day for 10 years.
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That gets old
after the first week.
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No, absolutely.
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So, anyway, it was really
funny because the other day,
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I think it was
on the second visit,
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she said, "Doctor, I
want to tell you something."
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I can see space between my toes.
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And she was just bubbling over
because she didn't, you know,
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she didn't think that
she'd be able to get away
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but 10 years
every morning get up
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wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap.
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Terrible.
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Yeah, so she did
that and then she...
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You know, with
the pain and so forth,
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she couldn't walk but I,
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you know, I challenged her
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and I said something
about walking a mile,
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and she kinda like...
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And then I said,
yeah, and then, next week,
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you should be
walking two, you know.
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And she told me today
that she did the three.
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Yes.
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And she was just
beaming, you know,
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and so happy about everything.
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You know, to find that
she could eat two meals a day,
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really, really enjoy it...
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And not be hungry.
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Yeah, and not be
hungry between meals, and,
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so these are the kind of
things that keeps us going.
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You know, she said
also back to walking.
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That, when she got here,
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she could always only
walk about a 10th of a mile.
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Yeah.
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And gradually built up
to three miles in a day.
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Yeah. She was... That's big.
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She was just excited
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when she saw me
and she said I did it.
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Yeah.
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So, is Carol
gonna be one of those
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that stick to the
program do you suppose?
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We're not gonna
let her get away.
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Well, you know,
with Daniel Murawski.
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Yeah?
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When he came
here, he said, "Hey,
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what you've been here 30 years,
Doc, what do you really need?"
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And I said, "We have to be
able to follow the people up
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that want to be followed up."
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Yes. And he's setting it up.
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But, I mean,
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I used to give them calendars
and maybe in a group of,
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you know, 18 to 25,
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I might get one
out of the whole group
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and that's like
journaling, and I'm thinking,
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they paid their
money, they came here,
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they took their
time and everything.
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Why can't they make it
all the way to the post office
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with an envelope and
a stamp on it and the...
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in the aid we calendar
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and tell me how
they're doing but...
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I did that for a long time.
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I did, I filled
out those calendars.
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I never send them
in. I just stack them up.
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Yeah, I have a
lady the other day
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when I was talking
to the researcher here,
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this was Nedley.
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And she called up and so I said,
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"Just wait a
minute," because I...
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She does that too.
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She sends me about
three or four-minute time.
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But she's...
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The thing is, one of
the hardest thing is,
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is it was popular
out there, you see.
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Yeah.
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And now coconut
oil is a complete pass.
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The stomach when it
sends a message over
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to make more cholesterol,
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so as you can add some
bile to emulsify the fat,
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the stomach's not watching,
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oh, here comes some mezan oil
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and here comes
some triple virgin
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double cold pressed olive oil.
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And, you know, it's
just oil is oil, fat is...
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Well, no, fat is
usually from animals,
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but, you know that.
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It's really surprising.
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And then there's
always a study that shows it
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something's good
that does the same thing
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that the others do.
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But it's not the saturated
fat and the animal fats
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cause a lot of irritation.
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We're running out of time, Doc.
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Thank you.
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God bless you and your ministry.
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Thank you, friends.
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But don't go away
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because Pastor
Damon Snead is up next.
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Welcome back, friends.
Help me welcome Pastor Snead.
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How are you, Brother?
I'm doing great, Brother.
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Good to see you. Thank you.
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Well, you know,
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I just gotta say this,
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that it seems like we
get a lot of people here
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who are suffering the loss
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of a spouse,
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or a family member, a child,
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or father or
whatever the case may be.
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And that seems to be
what's going on with Carol.
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It's been some time.
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But how is she
doing spiritually?
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Spiritually, she's
another one that came here
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buzzing on another level.
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And she's got a tragic story.
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You know, she's
suffering from a disease
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and she lost her husband,
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but that drove her out
of her religion of birth
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into this search,
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where she's looking,
looking, searching, looking.
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She's lost her husband.
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She's looking for God
in deeper and deeper ways.
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I just think that's so important
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when people are suffering
when they've lost someone,
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a lot of times
they try to go out
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and get into
another relationship
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or they get involved
with this or other things.
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And it just leads to
emptiness and unfulfillment,
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but she's doing what
you were supposed to do,
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taking that opportunity
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and using it to
find God in deeper ways.
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And, of course, she did.
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She ends up in ministry.
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She's very
influential where she's at
00:18:23.06\00:18:25.53
and helping other women,
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women's ministries,
what she's actually into.
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And she's got a great
story to help other women
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and other
people get through loss
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and grief and suffering.
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And, so she's got
this wonderful ministry,
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but that wasn't all
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that she was
actually looking for needed.
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Right.
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And so she's here,
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and she's finding
what she was looking for.
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Yeah.
00:18:48.82\00:18:50.16
And I see her opening
up more and more and more.
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Thanks to your message.
And thanks to your counsel.
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I know God has
blessed you in a mighty way.
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Nonetheless, you have a
tremendous responsibility.
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And I praise God
00:19:04.14\00:19:07.04
that He's able to
enlighten this campus.
00:19:07.08\00:19:10.65
Well, you know,
00:19:10.68\00:19:12.58
and I know that
from talking to her,
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she's received the
gospel in deeper way.
00:19:14.15\00:19:18.29
But what I think she
came here looking for,
00:19:18.32\00:19:20.06
and what she expressed to me was
00:19:20.09\00:19:21.86
the connection of
health to her gospel,
00:19:21.89\00:19:25.89
the improvement of the body,
00:19:25.93\00:19:27.66
she starts, she said, I get it.
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I understand that better health
00:19:29.60\00:19:33.00
is part of God's
gospel plan for me.
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It's not the gospel,
00:19:35.60\00:19:37.64
but it is part of
God's desire to heal us.
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Because the better you
feel, the clearer the mind is,
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the more
receptive ability we have,
00:19:46.25\00:19:49.05
and we teach that to God
00:19:49.08\00:19:51.19
and she's catching that,
00:19:51.22\00:19:52.55
she's picking up on that,
00:19:52.59\00:19:53.92
and she's excited now
about the health message
00:19:53.96\00:19:56.62
and now she wants to
add that to her ministry,
00:19:56.66\00:19:59.59
it help other people
overcome their health issues.
00:19:59.63\00:20:03.06
You know, when I
read... Paul said,
00:20:03.10\00:20:06.60
in so many ways,
or I'll paraphrase,
00:20:06.63\00:20:10.24
"Don't you know that this body
00:20:10.27\00:20:11.77
is the temple of
the Holy Spirit."
00:20:11.81\00:20:14.08
And I truly know that
00:20:14.11\00:20:15.54
and I've
witnessed that and I see it,
00:20:15.58\00:20:17.78
not just for myself when
I came here 13 years ago,
00:20:17.81\00:20:21.75
very, very sick man.
00:20:21.78\00:20:23.85
And I've lost all this
weight and diabetes known.
00:20:23.89\00:20:27.32
And so, this is
where I found Christ.
00:20:27.36\00:20:30.66
And it keeps
going into deeper waters
00:20:30.69\00:20:34.63
as you put it.
00:20:34.66\00:20:36.00
I was like, when I was baptized,
00:20:36.03\00:20:37.87
I was ankle deep.
00:20:37.90\00:20:39.53
And now I'm up in knees
00:20:39.57\00:20:41.04
and you've got me
down in the deep water.
00:20:41.07\00:20:43.24
It's coming up to my neck.
00:20:43.27\00:20:45.14
I'm about to be
submerged once again.
00:20:45.17\00:20:48.04
And it's just a great feeling.
00:20:48.08\00:20:50.15
And I welcome
and I'm glad to see
00:20:50.18\00:20:52.35
that our guests who come here
00:20:52.38\00:20:54.48
can not only grow physically
00:20:54.52\00:20:57.09
and get well
physically but spiritually.
00:20:57.12\00:20:59.72
Sure.
00:20:59.75\00:21:01.09
In all, I've given
her some great ideas
00:21:01.12\00:21:03.49
to even go deeper with God
00:21:03.53\00:21:05.26
and she's one of these
00:21:05.29\00:21:06.63
that will mine out that rich ore
00:21:06.66\00:21:09.36
and dig down deeper,
00:21:09.40\00:21:11.13
both in spiritual ways.
00:21:11.17\00:21:12.67
I've given her new
concepts to look into
00:21:12.70\00:21:17.41
and also with her health.
00:21:17.44\00:21:19.34
And these two things
are gonna work together
00:21:19.37\00:21:20.94
and she's gonna
be a force to contend
00:21:20.98\00:21:23.45
with wherever she
goes, she's gonna do great.
00:21:23.48\00:21:26.98
She's a junior pastor, is she?
00:21:27.02\00:21:28.88
She's some kind of a
pastor or minister in the church
00:21:28.92\00:21:32.45
in this nondenominational church
00:21:32.49\00:21:35.82
where she's at.
00:21:35.86\00:21:37.19
Good for her. Good for her.
00:21:37.23\00:21:38.56
I know she'll
have a lot of juice
00:21:38.59\00:21:40.43
to take back to that.
00:21:40.46\00:21:41.80
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:21:41.83\00:21:43.60
Guess what? We're
out of time right now.
00:21:43.63\00:21:47.00
Good to talk
with you. All right.
00:21:47.04\00:21:48.40
God bless you and your ministry.
00:21:48.44\00:21:50.54
Don't go away, Dr.
Nedley and Dr. Ramirez up next.
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Welcome to Weimar
Institute Research.
00:22:30.81\00:22:33.52
And today, we have a study
00:22:33.55\00:22:35.98
that was actually
designed and carried out
00:22:36.02\00:22:38.89
by Dr. Ramirez himself,
00:22:38.92\00:22:41.09
the Director of
Weimar Institute Research,
00:22:41.12\00:22:44.13
and also very
involved in the Weimar College
00:22:44.16\00:22:47.43
in teaching research.
00:22:47.46\00:22:49.60
Now Dr. Ramirez, a
lot of the studies,
00:22:49.63\00:22:51.77
you're analyzing data
00:22:51.80\00:22:54.70
from multiple countries.
00:22:54.74\00:22:57.31
But this is actually a group
00:22:57.34\00:22:59.17
that you,
yourself were involved in.
00:22:59.21\00:23:01.58
Tell us a little
bit about this group?
00:23:01.61\00:23:03.14
That's right.
00:23:03.18\00:23:04.51
The students were able
to get a hold of this data
00:23:04.55\00:23:06.25
and help publish this paper.
00:23:06.28\00:23:09.08
And the focus of this study was
00:23:09.12\00:23:12.15
what happens when you
get the NEWSTART principles
00:23:12.19\00:23:15.02
and you teach them
in a community setting.
00:23:15.06\00:23:17.49
Okay.
00:23:17.53\00:23:18.86
Now, NEWSTART is well-known
00:23:18.89\00:23:20.23
to have its
residential lifestyle program.
00:23:20.26\00:23:22.86
And we have published a lot
00:23:22.90\00:23:24.40
in regards to the
improvement in lipids
00:23:24.43\00:23:27.14
and many other health parameters
00:23:27.17\00:23:28.84
by spending 19 days
with us here at NEWSTART.
00:23:28.87\00:23:32.94
But this is taking a look
00:23:32.97\00:23:34.31
at an intensive
community program
00:23:34.34\00:23:37.25
where they're not
having to live here.
00:23:37.28\00:23:38.78
That's right.
00:23:38.81\00:23:40.15
And so did you feed them
like we do here in NEWSTART?
00:23:40.18\00:23:42.35
No, not necessarily.
00:23:42.38\00:23:43.72
I just went, this
was a Sunday church,
00:23:43.75\00:23:45.32
a nondenominational church,
00:23:45.35\00:23:46.69
a pastor invited me
to go to this church.
00:23:46.72\00:23:49.02
There were many
health issues in that church,
00:23:49.06\00:23:51.19
and he said, "Could you
help us improve our health?"
00:23:51.23\00:23:54.10
So the pastor himself,
as a result of this program,
00:23:54.13\00:23:57.73
became a full
plant based person.
00:23:57.77\00:24:00.57
And the
participants of this study
00:24:00.60\00:24:04.61
were enthusiastic.
00:24:04.64\00:24:06.01
It was a senior
population, most of them.
00:24:06.04\00:24:09.84
And I remember one of them.
00:24:09.88\00:24:11.81
He came and
talked to me and said,
00:24:11.85\00:24:13.35
"Look, my wife brought
me to this two-week program.
00:24:13.38\00:24:16.15
Forget it.
00:24:16.18\00:24:17.52
I'm not going
to change my diet."
00:24:17.55\00:24:19.52
At the end of the two
weeks, he came to apologize.
00:24:19.55\00:24:21.72
"I'm sorry that I told you that.
00:24:21.76\00:24:23.09
We decided to switch
our diet to a vegan diet.
00:24:23.12\00:24:26.26
We went to the shelter
00:24:26.29\00:24:27.63
and gave away
all our fridge food.
00:24:27.66\00:24:29.06
And we're going to
start new with the new diet."
00:24:29.10\00:24:31.43
So it did create
long term change.
00:24:31.47\00:24:34.54
Wow, amazing.
00:24:34.57\00:24:35.90
So someone who was
very resistant to change,
00:24:35.94\00:24:38.07
as a result of true education
actually totally changed
00:24:38.11\00:24:42.71
what they were
putting into their mouths
00:24:42.74\00:24:44.61
and ways that they
thought they never would.
00:24:44.65\00:24:46.58
And the reason why they
were so enthusiastic is that
00:24:46.61\00:24:51.62
at the beginning of the program,
00:24:51.65\00:24:52.99
we took blood samples,
00:24:53.02\00:24:54.89
and their
cholesterol was way above
00:24:54.92\00:24:58.06
what should be normal.
00:24:58.09\00:24:59.43
He had a 234 points,
00:24:59.46\00:25:03.13
that cholesterol.
00:25:03.16\00:25:04.83
The guideline says 200,
but the ideal should be 150.
00:25:04.87\00:25:08.80
But still, you know,
00:25:08.84\00:25:10.17
that's way above
those two guidelines.
00:25:10.21\00:25:12.44
You know, it's interesting.
00:25:12.47\00:25:14.01
Years ago, I
remember Dr. Scharfenberg
00:25:14.04\00:25:16.81
talking to a group of pastors
who asked him a question.
00:25:16.85\00:25:20.38
How can we get
people more interested
00:25:20.42\00:25:22.98
in issues of salvation?
00:25:23.02\00:25:24.92
And he says, "I will
tell you, take their blood,
00:25:24.95\00:25:27.76
find out what
their cholesterol is,
00:25:27.79\00:25:29.72
give them the result
and they will cry out
00:25:29.76\00:25:31.93
what must I do to be saved?"
00:25:31.96\00:25:35.40
And that's
exactly what happened.
00:25:35.43\00:25:37.27
They cried out. "What
must I do to be saved?"
00:25:37.30\00:25:39.53
And were you able to save them?
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Yes.
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Well, even the LDL,
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very worrisome 147 LDL.
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Very high.
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Some of them taking
statins, even with statins,
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they had this type of
high levels of cholesterol
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and bad cholesterol.
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And after those
two-week, it changed.
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I spoke to them three times
before the next blood sample.
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And by the end
of that two weeks,
00:26:04.69\00:26:08.50
their cholesterol
had got down to 177.
00:26:08.53\00:26:13.40
And also, it went
down beyond that 200.
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And their bad cholesterol,
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that LDL
cholesterol went down to 122.
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So...
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Those are dramatic
differences from 224 to 177,
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in just two weeks,
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with an educational program,
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and their LDLs
plummeting from a very high 147,
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where that
stroke, heart attack rate
00:26:36.99\00:26:39.29
down to 122 in just
two weeks and who knows
00:26:39.33\00:26:42.03
what it would
have been at six weeks
00:26:42.06\00:26:44.47
had you measured it?
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And as a result of this action,
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this had a
community wide implication.
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I want to talk
to the businessman
00:26:50.57\00:26:52.04
and told him, I need
you to bring healthy food
00:26:52.07\00:26:53.98
because there was
not too many options.
00:26:54.01\00:26:55.78
He didn't believe me. He
brought two or three things.
00:26:55.81\00:26:58.08
Bam! People bought these things.
00:26:58.11\00:27:00.28
People got upset with him,
00:27:00.32\00:27:01.65
"Hey, the doctor said
00:27:01.68\00:27:03.02
you're gonna have these things."
00:27:03.05\00:27:04.39
He now knew that
this was serious.
00:27:04.42\00:27:06.12
We start stocking up his
store with healthy products
00:27:06.15\00:27:09.22
so that people could continue
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with this healthy
lifestyle long term.
00:27:10.63\00:27:13.16
It's consumerism that
drives the commercial aspect,
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not the other way around.
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And so, yeah, they learned that.
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Now our students
at Weimar Institute
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actually took a
look at the results
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and compiled them
along with yourself.
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And was this published then?
00:27:28.18\00:27:29.78
Yeah, this was
actually published
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in an American
Heart Association journal
00:27:31.91\00:27:34.28
called
Atherosclerosis Thrombosis
00:27:34.32\00:27:36.89
and Vascular Biology Journal.
00:27:36.92\00:27:38.85
Wow.
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Amazing the difference
with just health education
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provided by Dr. Eddie Ramirez,
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Director of
Research at Weimar Institute.
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And thank you for joining us
at Weimar Institute Research.
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