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00:40 Hi, friends.
00:41 Welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now. 00:44 I am your host Ron Giannoni. 00:47 Before I introduce our guest, 00:49 I like to take a look at when he first arrived. 00:55 Well, we came here four years ago 00:58 and had a great experience. 01:04 Didn't lose a lot of weight which I thought I would, 01:07 but that was my own fault. 01:09 But we learned such great truths 01:11 about nutrition, cooking, 01:15 what to eat, what not to eat, 01:17 and we stuck with that program 01:18 when we got home for a couple of years, 01:21 at least, may be three. 01:23 But the last year or so, I kind of fell off the wagon. 01:27 And I know it's called NEWSTART 01:29 but I am looking at it as a restart 01:32 because I spent the last eight months 01:35 in the high Arctic 01:37 where fresh fruits and vegetables 01:38 are hard to come by, 01:40 and couldn't go for walks like I like to do partly 01:45 because of the darkness and the bears 01:47 and wolves and foxes that were out. 01:51 So that's my excuse for gaining 30 pounds or more. 01:55 And before I came out of the Arctic this year, 01:58 my wife called me and said, 02:00 "I want to go back to NEWSTART." 02:02 And I said, "Great idea. Let's go." 02:04 The spiritual aspect is very important as well. 02:09 Every morning at seven, 02:10 we have a session in here with the chaplain, 02:14 and I forget the chaplain's name, 02:17 I just met him, he is very good. 02:21 At the end of a session, when... 02:31 I look at my wife... 02:35 Sorry. 02:37 And she has tears 02:47 due to the message that we hear in the morning. 02:52 That in itself is worth every penny. 03:02 Welcome back, friends. 03:03 Grant Scott. 03:05 Now I've been playing with that name for a while 03:07 because I could say Scott Grant or Grant Scott, 03:10 and I know you'd answer to either but... 03:12 Yes. 03:14 You know, when you first arrived, 03:19 you came with your wife who we have not interviewed. 03:25 But nonetheless, you came to assist her, right? 03:28 Yes. 03:29 And... 03:31 But you've had some remarkable changes. 03:35 Can we talk about that? 03:39 Well, I have lost 13 pounds. Wow. 03:43 That's a remarkable change. 03:45 Where did you leave it by the way? 03:47 Pardon me. Where did you leave it? 03:49 I am just kidding. 03:51 But you ever wondered where that weight goes? 03:53 Just where is it? It's gone. 03:54 Out on a trail somewhere. Right. 03:56 Go ahead. You lost 13 pounds. 03:58 Well, and you mentioned trails, 04:00 walking trails certainly helped. 04:03 It's a combination of proper diet, exercise, rest, 04:08 drinking water, lots of water. 04:10 Yeah. 04:12 And I think that's how I lost the weight. 04:15 And of course, the challenge now is to keep up that regimen 04:17 when I go home. 04:18 So 13 pounds in 16 days? Yes. 04:22 That's almost a pound a day. 04:25 What gave that a kick start was 04:27 we had a three day fast, 04:30 and I've never been on a fast before. 04:36 I'd say it's easy because I never felt hungry. 04:39 I mean, we drank water and made a little concoction, 04:43 they called parfait, which had no taste 04:47 but that kept us going. 04:50 Right. Right. 04:51 And the other big change is 04:56 eating only two meals a day, 04:58 breakfast at eight in the morning, 04:59 and lunch at two in the afternoon, 05:01 and that's it. 05:03 And even when I wake up the next morning, 05:06 I'm not hungry. 05:08 And I thought I would be. 05:10 I thought I'd be going down the road 05:12 on my own truck looking for snacks. 05:16 It's just an amazing program, 05:19 and I think, I mentioned before when we spoke, 05:22 you know, the cost is high, 05:24 especially for Canadians with Canadian dollar being low, 05:27 but that cost is well worth it, aside from all that, 05:32 just for the Fresh Start discussions 05:35 with the chaplain in the morning. 05:37 How was the Fresh Start for you? 05:39 Did that grab you at all? 05:41 It really grabbed my wife and I. 05:44 My wife has got three years of Bible school 05:47 behind her years ago, 05:48 and we've been going to church for years 05:51 and studying the Bible, reading the Bible. 05:54 But listening to Damon Snead, the chaplain, 05:58 it was like hearing the Bible for the first time. 06:02 And 06:12 his sermons, 06:14 his teachings grabbed us so much. 06:18 We were both rebaptized 06:22 last Sabbath here. 06:26 And so there is an aspect of this program 06:30 that few people know about 06:32 and that's the spiritual component. 06:35 And folks, you are watching it now. 06:38 This is typical what happens here. 06:42 People are just taken back by this love that's shared 06:47 and the sermons certainly are important, 06:51 and Damon has a message that is just incredible. 06:56 And you are a different man. 06:59 Very much. Yeah. 07:02 When we first arrived, 07:04 we were here for four years or a little bit more. 07:05 When we first arrived on this program, 07:08 we looked at all the other folks 07:12 and I said to my wife, 07:14 "I don't know if we'll fit in with this group." 07:16 It looked kind of strange. 07:18 But we grew to know and love everyone. 07:22 They're probably saying the same thing about you. 07:24 Exactly. Yeah. 07:26 It's a very close-knit group. 07:28 Isn't that amazing how that all 07:29 just kind of melts together? 07:32 Well, when the Lord's in it, anything is possible. 07:36 Yeah. 07:37 Everything is possible. Yeah. 07:39 I'm so glad you brought that up 07:41 because it needs to be said over the airways 07:45 to people who want to come here, 07:48 they don't know that there's a spiritual component, 07:51 and you certainly has brought that out. 07:54 So were you on any medications when you got here? 07:56 No. 07:58 None? None. 07:59 So did you see the doctor? 08:01 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 08:02 We had regular visits with Dr. Gallant. 08:06 I haven't been on medication for years. 08:09 And has he given a clean bill of health? 08:11 Well, no. 08:12 No? 08:14 My blood test showed that 08:16 I was close to this disease and close to that disease, 08:20 but didn't have them. 08:22 So it was a wakeup call for me 08:23 to stick with the proper diet and exercise 08:27 to make sure I don't fall into those diseases. 08:30 So now that you've come through the program, 08:32 those are not gonna happen. 08:34 Not at all. Not at all. 08:36 Now you are good to go. 08:38 And I can guess what they are 08:40 but nonetheless, it doesn't matter. 08:42 I know by being here, 08:44 if you were pre this or pre that, that's gone 08:48 because we've seen so many people with diabetes, 08:51 and even cancers, 08:53 and people who were 08:56 on this kind of machine and that machine, 08:59 where they needed to breathe, they'll get dialysis, 09:02 get them off these machines 09:04 just because change in the lifestyle. 09:07 That's right. 09:08 And of course, wherever the Lord is present, 09:12 all things are possible, anything is possible. 09:16 Dr. Gallant... 09:17 I have a CPAP machine. 09:19 And Dr. Gallant said if I stick to this program 09:22 and the weight continues to come off, 09:24 the CPAP will also come off. 09:28 That's right. I've seen it. 09:30 Right here. With my own eyes. 09:33 Well, I'm very, very happy for you, 09:34 and I just praise the Lord that 09:38 you are who you are and what you are 09:41 and you are here with your wife, supporting her, 09:44 and the two of you were baptized, 09:46 I think that's incredible. 09:48 But we are running out of time. Okay. 09:52 But I wanna thank you for coming here 09:55 and expressing your deepest emotions. 09:58 Thank you. And God bless you, brother. 10:00 Bless you too. 10:01 I'll see you again. Yes. 10:02 Don't go away, friends, 'cause Dr. Gallant is up next. 10:40 Welcome back, friends. 10:42 We have today with us Dr. Gallant. 10:44 Dr. Gallant. 10:46 Good to see you, Pastor Snead. 10:47 How are you doing? Doing well. 10:49 We're gonna be talking a little bit about Grant. 10:50 Yes. 10:52 And he had some troubles. 10:53 He was here before, left, 10:56 and then got in a situation with his work, 10:58 gained a lot of weight, a lot of bad food, 11:01 and got in a pretty bad situation. 11:03 So what can you tell us about Grant? 11:05 Well, Grant is a great guy. 11:06 He is from the Great White North, 11:08 you know? 11:10 I grew up half of my childhood in Canada, 11:11 so I'm somewhat partial to people from Canada. 11:16 But Grant is a great guy. 11:19 He said it himself that, you know, 11:22 he came because he had fallen off the wagon. 11:26 And so he was having weight gain, 11:29 he was having some issues with his blood pressure, 11:31 and he had sleep apnea. 11:34 And coming here, 11:38 he started to get back on track, 11:40 and you could just see it in his eyes, 11:42 his eyes changed, you know, 11:44 and he is doing a lot better. 11:47 At the end of the program, he really had lost weight, 11:51 and he was feeling better, he could exercise more, 11:55 he also was starting to sleep better at night, 11:58 the sleep apnea was not as much of a problem. 12:01 So praise the Lord for that. 12:03 Yeah, so losing the weight had a big factor 12:06 and getting exercise. 12:07 I know his job 12:08 where he was working a way up, you know, 12:10 was keeping him from being mobile, isn't it? 12:13 And can that be a problem 12:16 with people not being able to sleep well? 12:18 Absolutely. Absolutely. 12:19 There is a lot of evidence that shows that 12:21 if you get regular exercise during the day, 12:24 not right before you go to bed, 12:26 it helps you to sleep better at night. 12:28 Your body gets tired physically, 12:31 but you also have changes 12:32 in the chemicals, the hormones in your body, 12:35 and that helps you to sleep better at night. 12:38 His poor sleeping actually had an impact on his wife. 12:42 It kept his wife awake at night. 12:44 Oh, very good point. Yeah. 12:46 And so when he started sleeping better, 12:48 she was very happy 12:49 because she could sleep better as well. 12:51 Oh, yeah, so you see, that affects all kind of stuff. 12:53 Yeah, absolutely. 12:54 Now something about where he worked, 12:56 the part of the world where he worked, 12:57 was there an issue with daylight and sunlight 13:00 and stuff like that? 13:01 Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. 13:03 So he was in the Arctic, the very far north. 13:05 And they don't have 13:07 the same daylight and nighttime as we do. 13:11 In parts of the winter, there is very little daylight. 13:16 And then in parts of that area during the summer, 13:19 there is an abundance of daylight 13:21 where they only have a little bit of darkness. 13:23 And the light affects our sleep patterns. 13:27 It affects our melatonin and our serotonin. 13:31 Melatonin is more of a nighttime hormone, 13:33 and serotonin is more of a daytime hormone. 13:36 And when you are not getting 13:38 the right light at the right time, 13:40 it makes it hard to be healthy. 13:42 And so that affected his sleep. 13:45 And then being up there where it's so cold 13:47 and there is all kinds of wildlife, 13:49 he couldn't exercise and walk like 13:52 he needed to and should have. 13:54 And so that impacted his health 13:56 and impacted his weight gain as well. 13:58 Yeah, so it sounded like 13:59 he had a lot of things going on. 14:01 No exercise, poor nutrition, 14:05 the light problems, and so he gets here, 14:08 and all of these things, 14:10 he starts learning to do all over again. 14:11 He is getting the right amount of sunlight 14:13 but at the right time. 14:14 Amen. 14:16 He is getting the nutrition, he is getting the exercise, 14:19 and then a few other things. 14:21 Right. 14:22 So his body just starts going back 14:23 to its normal position what it should be. 14:26 Yeah, exactly. 14:28 And he did... 14:30 You know, he started to make these simple changes 14:32 and he started to see results fairly quickly, 14:35 which is a blessing. 14:37 And so I am just thankful that 14:41 he had a good experience while he was here, 14:44 and you also played a role in his healing. 14:50 Yeah, that's the spiritual component of it. 14:51 That's right. 14:53 Because spiritual is so important 14:55 with the physical healing. 14:57 And I believe that the spiritual component 15:00 is the part that keeps people on track 15:03 when they leave here. 15:04 Right, and that's a big thing with him 15:06 because he's going back to work. 15:08 I'm hoping he doesn't go back to work. 15:10 Was he thinking of retiring? He was thinking about it. 15:12 I'm hoping he doesn't go back to work 'cause being up there, 15:15 being away for months at a time, 15:18 not being with his wife, 15:21 all of that, I don't think is ideal. 15:23 No, it's not ideal. 15:24 You know, but a lot of men and even women 15:28 have this problem 15:29 where work is the driving force, 15:32 it throws everything else out of whack. 15:34 So what would you suggest to people 15:36 whose work is really interfering in their life 15:39 in so many levels like this? 15:42 NEWSTART has two Ts. 15:44 The first T actually stands for temperance. 15:47 So temperance means 15:48 we have to have a level of balance. 15:52 And I'm guilty of this at times myself. 15:56 We can overwork and put aside some of these principles 16:00 that are so important for our health.` 16:02 And then when we do that, 16:04 we reap the consequences of our choices. 16:07 And so it's really important to try to maintain balance. 16:09 And I suggested to him that 16:11 if he did have to go back to work, 16:13 because he says he's retired two or three times already, 16:16 but if he does have to go back to work, 16:18 maybe try to find ways 16:20 to incorporate these principles into what he's doing, 16:23 so it's not as harmful, not as dangerous, 16:26 and maybe take his wife with him 16:28 and so they can be supportive for each other 16:31 at the same time. 16:33 Yeah, because food can become our friend, 16:34 our comfort really quick. 16:36 Absolutely. 16:37 No spouse, no wife, 16:38 all these other miserable things going on. 16:40 And you can default to that so quickly. 16:42 Well, he put on 30 pounds. 16:43 Yeah. Yeah. 16:45 So you know, and that's not good. 16:47 So yeah, I think it's important 16:50 that he maintain balance at whatever he's doing, 16:52 whether it's just being at home 16:54 or he has to go back up north. 16:56 He said there was gonna be a break 16:58 before there would be an opportunity for him 17:01 to go back up north. 17:02 So I think that's good 17:04 that he can kind of reestablish the principles, 17:05 both of them will have them in their household, 17:08 and I think that's important. 17:10 But, you know, he needs to be careful 17:13 if he's going back up there for work. 17:15 Dr. Gallant, we are out of time. 17:16 We appreciate you so much. God bless, friend. 17:18 God bless you too, pastor. And it's good to talk to you. 17:21 Don't go away, friends. We'll be right back. 17:26 Welcome back, friends. 17:27 Help me welcome the real Pastor Snead. 17:33 We keep changing chairs here. Yeah. 17:36 You know? Well, I'm over here now. 17:37 I know you're over there. 17:39 I think that's a tougher chair to be in. 17:41 Maybe so. 17:42 'Cause all I got to do is ask questions. 17:44 But we don't wanna confuse anybody watching, 17:47 you were actually over here. That's right. 17:49 Now you're over there. Now I am over here. 17:51 So now you're a pastor. 17:52 That's right. Okay. 17:54 Let's talk about this gentleman. 17:56 We know that 17:58 he'd been up north, way up north. 18:02 What happened? 18:03 I mean, basically, how did he end up here? 18:05 Well, he's in a pretty good shape of a guy, right? 18:08 He's an older guy but was in good shape. 18:11 But years and years of working up north, 18:15 you get up there and... 18:16 Those are the kind of places 18:18 that you take advantage of the time 18:19 'cause there's nothing going on up there, 18:21 so you just work, work, work, 18:23 shift work, many, many hours, 18:24 and what happened was he just overworked himself, 18:28 and that overworking, that intemperance in working 18:31 which is one of the NEWSTART principles, 18:32 temperance, goes for work. 18:35 And he's in one of these typical situations 18:37 where men just work themselves to death, 18:40 and that bled over into all kind of areas of his life. 18:43 Spiritually, physically, mentally, 18:48 we're talking about all of this, right? 18:49 Right, that's one of his testimonies. 18:51 Right. 18:53 The first thing that he recognized was his weight, 18:55 so the physical aspect. 18:56 He has put on some pounds. And this is the thing. 18:58 Just because you're working and, you know, 19:00 we come home from work, we're tired, 19:02 we've been up all day long, 19:03 but that doesn't necessarily mean 19:05 you're getting the kind of physical activity you need, 19:07 and that's what we've seen with him. 19:08 His weight begins to bulge in, 19:11 he's up there overworking, 19:12 so food becomes comforting friend, 19:14 and so he just, it spirals out of control with him, 19:17 and that's what happened. 19:18 That's how he came back here, 19:20 overweight, burned out mentally, 19:22 and then also spiritually, 19:23 he found himself in spiritually bad condition 19:27 as he was physically. 19:29 And how is it that you were able to... 19:32 What do you do exactly 19:34 that helps these folks turn around, 19:36 you know, like him, specifically? 19:39 Well, with these guys and anyone in this situation, 19:42 I always tell them my first night 19:44 that the principles you're gonna learn for health 19:47 are going to stick better if you understand 19:50 the spiritual aspects of things. 19:52 And I just simply am taking people through a good revival, 19:58 understanding the gospel, 20:00 which would include not only the power of God to save us 20:03 eternally into His kingdom but 20:05 that transformative power of God that comes as a gift, 20:08 as a promise of the Holy Spirit. 20:10 And that's what people need 20:11 because of the weakness of our flesh, 20:13 our nature's falling, 20:15 it's just natural proclivity of ours when we burn out, 20:18 tired, stressed from overwork, 20:20 it's just a natural desire to go to food and to eat 20:23 and not exercise and just lay around 20:25 and watch TV and to make ourselves feel better. 20:27 And so we need the power of God to come into our mind 20:31 and snap us out of that, so to speak. 20:33 And so when he gets here, he realizes that. 20:36 Yeah, his health is getting better, 20:37 he's doing the eight NEWSTART principles, 20:40 and his weight's coming down, the numbers are dropping, 20:42 but then he realizes that 20:44 the spiritual is the main issue with him. 20:47 He needed to be reconnected to God 20:50 in the way to help him with his physical problems. 20:53 So you've given him hope, 20:56 where when he got here, he was at the end of the rope, 20:59 so to speak, thinking he was dying, literally, 21:04 maybe he didn't know spiritually. 21:06 But he could tell through physical ailments 21:09 that he was not doing good. 21:11 Would that be pretty much... Yeah, sure. 21:14 And he realized that 21:15 the physical was but a shadow of the spiritual, 21:17 and he was one of the ones who was rebaptized. 21:20 Right. 21:21 And really felt this connection with God, 21:24 and had this hope, I like the word. 21:26 I always start off with hope. 21:27 He had this hope that he's got to go back 21:31 'cause he was going back to work again, 21:33 he was thinking about retiring, but he's going back in. 21:36 But now he can go back realizing that 21:39 he doesn't have to do things the way he's done. 21:41 He can take these principles, implement them, 21:43 and even in an extreme condition of work 21:45 like his kind of work, 21:48 he can still keep the physical in its right perspective, 21:53 but he'll do it now through spiritual, 21:56 through relying on God to help him. 21:58 And relying on God's power, 22:00 you know, we talk about the battle 22:01 between the flesh and the spirit, 22:03 you know, towards the end of our time together, 22:05 and how God can come in 22:07 and override the flesh's desire, 22:09 the spirit can say, "Hey, put that down," 22:11 or "Hey, get up and go walk," or "Hey..." 22:14 You know, and he realized the importance of that, 22:16 and I think he's gonna benefit greatly from it. 22:18 I know. That's great. 22:20 You know, we're just about out of time. 22:21 But I wanted to thank you for two things. 22:24 For being here for this interview, 22:26 and for taking my place for the previous one. 22:29 Friends, don't go away. 22:31 We got something to show you. 22:35 Welcome to Weimar Institute Research. 22:38 Glad you've joined us today. 22:40 And with me is the Director of Weimar Institute Research, 22:44 and also teaching research methods at the college, 22:47 Dr. Eddie Ramirez. 22:49 And this is a nice study 22:51 where we collaborate with some international researchers. 22:55 And this particular analysis actually helps us to realize 23:02 that tobacco is a little more dangerous than 23:04 we thought of for the mind. 23:06 That's right. 23:08 We've known that tobacco is not good for the arteries, 23:10 it's not good for the lungs, it's not good for the liver, 23:14 and kidneys even for that matter, 23:16 but it really hasn't been looked at 23:18 in regards to that much related to mental health. 23:23 But first of all, Dr. Ramirez, 23:28 tell us about this study and who was studied. 23:32 That's right. 23:33 We were seeing 23:35 what relationship does tobacco use have on depression, 23:41 and what happens after the people participate 23:44 of an eight-week mental education program, 23:48 what happens to their level of tobacco usage, 23:50 and what happens to their level of mental health. 23:54 Okay. 23:55 So they're coming to 23:57 a depression and anxiety recovery program 24:00 which is just once a week for eight weeks, 24:02 a mental health program, 24:03 and they're taking a little assessment 24:07 at the beginning. 24:08 And one of the things that we're assessing 24:10 is their tobacco usage. 24:12 That's right. 24:14 And so what did we find out? 24:15 How many of them were using tobacco, 24:18 and what did it do to their mental health? 24:20 That's right. 24:22 We found out that from 5,621 people, 24:28 456 were using tobacco products. 24:32 Okay. 24:34 And did we compare them 24:36 with the ones who were not using tobacco products? 24:38 That's right. 24:39 We compared them against those 24:41 that were not using tobacco products. 24:43 If you were using tobacco products, 24:44 your depression was 16 points, 24:47 almost to the severe type of depression 24:50 compared to those that were not using the tobacco products, 24:53 on average, at the beginning, it was of 12. 24:56 So there was a big difference in their mental health. 24:59 Significant worsening really of depression. 25:03 And anxiety also. And anxiety also. 25:05 So you measured anxiety as well. 25:07 So it's interesting because many times 25:09 the smoker uses it to deal with their anxiety, 25:13 yet, if they're using tobacco, 25:16 their anxiety is actually moderate levels 25:19 while those that are not using the tobacco 25:22 at the beginning had mild levels of anxiety. 25:25 It's one of these classic things 25:26 where the people think 25:28 what's helping them is actually hurting them 25:31 because it seems to help them short-term, 25:33 but they don't recognize 25:35 what it's doing long-term to their brain chemistry. 25:37 And so many people smoke tobacco 25:40 in order to feel calm and relaxed, 25:43 but in reality, 25:44 they are actually getting rid of some brain chemicals 25:47 that can help them feel calm and relaxed. 25:50 And as a result, their anxiety levels go up long-term 25:55 as well as their depression levels. 25:57 So during the course of the eight weeks, 25:59 what happened? 26:01 So we have focused on helping them, 26:04 giving tools so they can overcome addictions. 26:08 And even though this is not a smoking succession program, 26:11 we actually got rates similar to 26:14 a smoking succession program. 26:17 By the end of the program, 26:19 from those 556 people that were using it, by the end, 26:25 98 had decided to stop using the tobacco products. 26:29 Okay, so significant amount. 26:31 And you're right, that's actually equal or above 26:34 a program that would just be utilized 26:36 to help them quit smoking. 26:39 But by giving them mental health program, 26:42 not only were the rates the same 26:44 as going to one of those programs of quitting smoking, 26:47 but their depression and anxiety improved. 26:49 Is that right? That's right. 26:51 By the end of the program, their depression level, 26:54 if you were able to quit smoking, 26:56 was on the border between non and mild, 26:59 while if you continue using the smoke product, 27:02 you did get some benefits from the program, 27:04 but your depression is gonna be at the mild level. 27:06 Okay, so significant improvement 27:08 if they quit smoking, 27:10 and they quit that addiction during the program. 27:12 Lot of people think, 27:13 "Hey, their anxiety level's gonna get worse. 27:15 I am coming to help my anxiety, I don't need to quit smoking." 27:18 But those who did quit smoking, 27:20 experienced significant improvement 27:23 in their depression and anxiety. 27:24 And anxiety levels, it went from six. 27:28 If you quit smoking, it went down to five 27:31 which is non-depression. 27:33 And if you continue using the tobacco products, 27:35 it's gonna be on six which is a mild anxiety. 27:38 Now was this published? 27:39 This was published in 27:41 Drug Metabolism and Pharmacokinetic journal. 27:46 Okay. 27:47 And one of the students from Weimar was our... 27:51 One of them, you know, processing data 27:53 and writing things up and so forth. 27:55 Great. 27:56 And so we appreciate what you are teaching the world 28:00 through this data analysis, Dr. Ramirez, 28:03 as real lives have changed for the better. 28:06 And we thank you for tuning in. 28:07 And join us next time for Weimar Institute Research. |
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