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01:11 Hi, friends, don't turn that dial.
01:14 We have an amazing story to follow.
01:18 In the next 29.5 minutes,
01:20 you're going to witness a miracle.
01:23 In our studio with me today is Dr. Lukens.
01:28 How are you? Thank you, sir.
01:29 I'm always happy to talk about these miracles.
01:32 Yeah, we're going to talk about Bonnie Coe
01:34 and what's happened in her life.
01:37 I can't wait to see her interview
01:41 and then come back with you,
01:43 and so let's break away for that interview, okay?
01:50 Welcome back, friends. Bonnie, how are you dear?
01:53 I'm fine, thank you.
01:54 Good. Good to see you. Thank you.
01:56 And I'm good to hear of all these amazing things
01:59 that are happening in your life.
02:02 I'd like our guests that are watching us right now
02:05 to hear your story,
02:07 and if you can just, kind of, breeze through it,
02:10 we don't have a lot of time.
02:12 I'll try to condense my story.
02:15 Okay.
02:17 In 2005, I became disabled
02:21 after taking a prescription anti-nausea medication,
02:27 disabled to the point
02:29 where I was bedbound for over four years
02:33 until I had brain surgery
02:36 because I had uncontrolled movements.
02:42 And they went away when I slept.
02:44 So when I had the brain surgery
02:47 and a deep brain stimulator placed,
02:51 it gave me my life back,
02:54 but I still had trouble walking,
02:57 and I still obviously have some trouble
03:01 with my speech.
03:04 But I could not coordinate the way I walked.
03:08 So when you got here, I noticed
03:10 you were kind of twitching a little bit on one side.
03:13 And what you're saying is
03:15 your left and right foot wanted to go together sometimes or...
03:19 Well, when we walk,
03:23 we automatically do it without thinking.
03:25 Right. The right leg goes...
03:28 The left leg goes out, the right arm at same time.
03:31 Right. And then vice versa.
03:34 I could not do that,
03:35 even practicing when I walked outside
03:40 which was not real often.
03:42 Right.
03:43 And here somehow
03:45 with all the walking that we've done,
03:50 it has happened pretty automatically
03:55 that I do that now.
03:57 You're walking like you used to walk.
04:00 I'm walking pretty normal.
04:01 Pretty normal. Yeah.
04:03 And your speech is pretty good too. I mean...
04:06 Well, hopefully is understandable.
04:09 Well, sure.
04:11 But it is different. Of course, you wouldn't know that.
04:13 No, I wouldn't know that.
04:16 I talked to you when you first arrived here.
04:18 Yes. But that was brief.
04:20 I didn't catch anything like that.
04:23 So now why do you think that this has happened?
04:28 How this healing, that's obviously come on you,
04:33 why do you think it's happened?
04:35 Well, I think
04:36 it's a combination of the exercise that we do
04:42 along with the food that we eat,
04:48 getting enough rest, pretty pampered here actually,
04:54 pretty spoiled.
04:56 What about the spiritual component?
04:59 The spiritual component, this is all about God.
05:04 My healing, at the beginning,
05:08 the surgery was directed by God,
05:12 and God brought me to NEWSTART.
05:15 And it is God who is healing me even further.
05:21 And to Him, I give all the glory,
05:26 all the honor and praise for it.
05:29 Amen, He's saying to you,
05:31 "Take up your mat and walk."
05:33 Right. And you're walking.
05:34 You're doing a good job.
05:36 How far are you walking each day now?
05:39 Well, some of the people here
05:43 that are attending would laugh,
05:46 but I'm up to over two miles a day.
05:49 That's nothing to laugh about.
05:52 You couldn't walk when you got here.
05:54 You said rarely you even got outside.
05:56 Rarely. Well, yeah, I didn't go on walks like now.
06:02 So now you're over two miles.
06:05 Over two miles.
06:06 Do you see three miles in the near future?
06:09 Well, I was working up to it.
06:11 Today, I got an extra quarter mile this morning,
06:16 and I will try this evening also.
06:18 Yes, good for you. Yeah.
06:20 You know, I see that there's hope in your eyes,
06:25 in your heart,
06:27 and that hope and focus is on Jesus.
06:30 And you know that He is the master healer,
06:33 a master metaphysician, if you will,
06:35 that He can heal us from another planet,
06:40 if you will,
06:42 and He is obviously working on you in such a way.
06:46 I'm so happy for you.
06:48 Yes, and one of the benefits,
06:51 and this is not why I came here,
06:54 but I've lost about 10 pounds.
06:57 Wow.
06:58 So like I said, that's not why I came,
07:01 I came for the other components,
07:03 other programs.
07:04 Yes. But I'm really happy about it.
07:07 Yes, of course.
07:09 How much weight do you want to lose yet?
07:12 Probably, you know, women are always unreasonable,
07:17 but I would say about 30 pounds.
07:19 Thirty pounds? Well, you could do it.
07:21 You'll do it. One day at a time.
07:23 That's it, one day at a time.
07:25 You know, it's an amazing thing
07:26 the way God created these bodies.
07:29 What's amazing to me is
07:30 all you got to do is give them the right foods,
07:34 it knows exactly where you should be.
07:37 Whether it's 125 or 135, it's going to balance,
07:43 your BMI is going to be where God intended it to be,
07:47 it may be on the low side, it may be on the high side,
07:50 but you're on your way, girl.
07:53 I think so. Yeah.
07:54 Thank you.
07:55 Good. You got a great smile by the way.
07:57 Thank you.
07:59 Did you get that from the surgery?
08:00 I don't think so. No.
08:04 No, they didn't throw that in.
08:07 Well, I'm looking forward
08:10 to hearing things in the future.
08:14 I would pray and hope that you would call us,
08:18 and stay in touch, and let us know of your progress.
08:22 Could you do that?
08:23 Well, I plan on.
08:27 Dr. Lukens is asking me to keep in touch.
08:30 Yes.
08:32 And he has given us a form to fill out
08:35 and send every month, and yes, I plan on that.
08:39 I want to thank you, dear, for taking your time.
08:43 And may God bless you in so many ways.
08:47 Thank you, Ron.
08:48 Yeah, keep up the good work. Thank you.
08:51 And thank you, friends, but don't go away,
08:53 Dr. Lukens is up next.
08:59 Every year in America,
09:00 there are over one million deaths
09:02 because of type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity.
09:04 This includes heart attacks and strokes.
09:07 That's 6.5 747s crashing every day.
09:10 What's even worse is that the fix is easy.
09:14 It's your lifestyle.
09:15 Wouldn't it be nice
09:17 if you could actually add quality years to your life
09:18 rather than dying one organ at a time?
09:21 Obesity and diabetes are the cause
09:23 of over a million deaths per year.
09:26 Most diseases are reversible
09:28 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases,
09:31 especially type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity.
09:34 Seriously now, they can be reversed
09:36 and the quality of your life can be renewed.
09:40 Call NEWSTART Today at 1-800-525-9192.
09:46 You will see dramatic changes
09:48 in the first few days at our program
09:50 and you will be on the road
09:51 to a better, more robust quality of life.
09:54 The NEWSTART programs are simple and effective.
10:00 Welcome back, friends.
10:02 Dr. Lukens, good to see you again.
10:04 I'm very good. I'm excited about this.
10:06 I am really excited
10:07 because this is something I've never seen before,
10:10 but can you explain?
10:11 It happens so, so rarely.
10:12 Explain to our viewers, what's going on here.
10:15 Well, when a person has damage to a part of their brain,
10:19 there's more to the problem
10:22 than just whatever's going on in the neurons.
10:25 How did that damage occur? Do you know what happened?
10:28 Yes, she had a drug for nausea. Okay.
10:34 Compazine.
10:35 And I don't want people to just,
10:36 "I'm never going to take it",
10:38 but she had a very strange reaction to it.
10:42 And so what happened to her
10:45 is it did something in her brain
10:47 so that the left side of her body
10:51 just started going like this,
10:54 we call it tardive dyskinesia but hers was violent.
10:58 And so finally, she had to go to bed,
11:02 and she went from her normal weight down
11:06 to 110 pounds,
11:07 and all during the day she was doing this.
11:09 We call it tardive dyskinesia.
11:12 And so for four years,
11:14 she was like that.
11:16 And they finally just said,
11:17 "Well, we're going to stimulate that part of the brain
11:20 so it can't do that."
11:23 So now, you know, the muscles are all tight and everything
11:26 because they're trying to do that,
11:28 but the brain simulator
11:30 keeps it from going on to the dyskinesia,
11:34 which has given her a certain amount of life,
11:40 you know, back again.
11:41 She was just...
11:42 I don't know how she could stand it.
11:44 She's a nurse practitioner.
11:45 She had to stop doing what she's doing.
11:47 She's got a good sense of humor,
11:49 all these things are wonderful,
11:51 but she'd really like to get back to work again.
11:54 Yeah. Now here's the thing.
11:56 When she came in with that dyskinesia,
12:00 she wasn't able to...
12:01 You know, how when you walk, you swing your arm,
12:04 she couldn't swing her arm.
12:05 She couldn't walk very well.
12:07 And also, when she was trying to walk,
12:09 that leg was, you know...
12:11 And so it was a really strange gate that she had.
12:15 And after she had been on this for about five or six days,
12:20 she came in, and I was going to do the lecture,
12:25 and she said, "Dr. Lukens, I want you to watch me now."
12:29 And so she did a relatively normal walk and she said,
12:33 "Look at what I can do now."
12:35 Big smile, you see.
12:37 And, you know, she's the only one
12:40 that had a brain problem
12:43 that I've had so far with a medication,
12:46 and very, very, very rarely, fortunately that it happens.
12:50 So she's gone through an awful lot.
12:52 But besides that, she had diabetes.
12:56 She had diabetes?
12:58 Yeah. Well, okay, she came in with insulin for diabetes.
13:05 She came in with another medication
13:07 that whips the pancreas to make more and more insulin.
13:11 Oh, no.
13:12 And, you know,
13:14 those that are watching those medications,
13:16 they realize that they're not good for you.
13:18 So we got her off of that one first,
13:21 I mean, as well as getting her off the insulin.
13:24 And, you know, being a nurse practitioner
13:27 is, kind of, like, you know, and, "Doc, are you sure?
13:30 I could be dead, you know?"
13:32 And I said, "Well, here's what they're doing
13:34 in the big United Kingdom study."
13:36 And she says, "Oh, well, let's drop it."
13:41 And so now she's really, really happy,
13:43 she still got some struggles, but...
13:44 Sure.
13:46 We just did another treadmill test on her.
13:50 She was able to sort of eke out seven minutes.
13:55 Wow. And then this time she did 9.5.
13:58 Wow. Yeah.
13:59 That's incredible.
14:01 Yeah, and the thing is that,
14:03 you know, I think when she saw such rapid improvements,
14:07 she was hoping that, you know,
14:09 she was going to walk out totally well,
14:10 but she's agreed to stay in touch with us.
14:13 We'll keep following her progress,
14:16 and we'll see else the Lord will do
14:18 with the miracle path that she's on.
14:22 Has she put on any weight or lost any weight?
14:24 She's lost, yeah.
14:26 And so she's off these medications,
14:29 off the insulin, right?
14:31 And the other one was...
14:33 Generally, if you use enough of that,
14:36 you're going to have to use insulin
14:38 because it's going to...
14:40 They equipped, just in lay terms,
14:44 they keep whipping the pancreas to make more insulin
14:47 until they can't do it anymore.
14:49 Until it's doesn't beat to death.
14:51 Yeah.
14:52 So now we're going to follow up on her
14:57 and encourage her to stay.
14:59 Well, she looks like
15:00 she's going to stick with the program.
15:02 Oh, man, you know,
15:03 if you've gone through four years in bed
15:07 or you're jerking all day long and, you know,
15:10 you just don't have any life, it's...
15:14 She's going to stick to the program.
15:15 She's going to do something, yeah.
15:17 She's already so much better.
15:19 I hope she'll be able to get back to work
15:21 because she's got... You know, she's really bright.
15:24 Is there any other medications that she was on
15:29 that she's no longer taking?
15:31 Well, you know,
15:32 well, we take them off as we can, yeah.
15:35 Okay, like blood pressure meds and stuff?
15:38 Yeah, things like that.
15:39 Yeah. Well, that's awesome.
15:41 I'm glad that we were able to help.
15:43 I want to ask you this.
15:44 Do you feel that God,
15:49 His presence on this campus,
15:53 has a lot to do with this healing?
15:56 Well, let me say it this way,
15:58 whether you have a common cold or you have metastatic cancer,
16:01 God is the healer. Amen.
16:04 I'm glad you say that.
16:06 I already know the answer,
16:07 but I wanted to hear from a doctor.
16:09 Yeah.
16:10 Well, we've run out of time,
16:12 but I want to thank you so much for being here.
16:16 Thank you, doc.
16:17 I'm really excited about this, man.
16:19 I'm glad that we're doing this.
16:20 I am too.
16:21 Thank you, friends, but don't go away,
16:24 Pastor Snead is up next.
16:29 Welcome back, friends.
16:31 Pastor Snead.
16:32 How you doing? Good, brother.
16:34 I'm going to call you Damon. That's right.
16:35 That's your name, right? Yes, sir.
16:38 You know, I'm really excited for a lot of reasons.
16:43 Now the viewers don't know
16:44 what's happened here in the last 16 days.
16:48 But I promised them they're going to witness
16:51 a miracle in the next 29.5 minutes.
16:55 Can you speak about that for the next little bit?
16:58 Oh, sure, in regards to Miss...
17:00 Miss Bonnie. Miss Bonnie, yeah.
17:03 Miss Bonnie would definitely classify as a miracle,
17:06 especially when you see what she came here with.
17:08 If you noticed how she was walking,
17:11 you know, she had some physical impairments.
17:14 But that's not the miracle part
17:16 that I want to talk about the most.
17:18 I was hoping you're going to bring in another aspect.
17:22 Yeah, you know, and we had some great conversations,
17:26 and she comes with a broken life.
17:28 She has a real tragic story in her life.
17:31 A lot of the things that she's been through,
17:32 broken marriages, you know, abuse as a young lady,
17:37 had really suffered a lot of terrible things,
17:39 and the death of her husband.
17:40 And so she had come here
17:42 with a lot of emotional baggage,
17:44 and then she ends up taking a simple drug
17:47 that many, many people take
17:48 and it gives her this terrible
17:50 debilitating neurological issue.
17:53 Compazine.
17:55 Yeah, she can't walk. Right.
17:56 So she comes here figuring
17:58 that the one thing that she can do
17:59 is maybe just at the end of... Towards...
18:01 You know, she's not a spring chicken no more,
18:03 so the last thing that she can do
18:04 is maybe recoup her health
18:06 and have some kind of enjoyment of life.
18:08 But she gets here and thinking
18:10 that's all that it's going to be about,
18:12 but she gives just this tear-jerking testimony,
18:16 Sabbath afternoon.
18:17 She's one of the people that were re-baptized,
18:19 and she's telling everybody, she's just saying,
18:23 "I came here thinking that
18:25 all that I could get from life is just health,
18:27 but I came here realizing
18:28 God brought me here for a spiritual renewal.
18:32 God brought me here to recoup my relationship with Him."
18:36 Because what's happened to her is,
18:38 over the years, every tragedy,
18:40 every terrible thing that's happened
18:42 has driven her further and further away from God
18:44 and she didn't realize that
18:46 until she sat in those Fresh Start lectures
18:48 realizing that she has been so far away from God.
18:51 And she came into my office that second week
18:54 when we offered the appeal
18:56 to rededicate your life in baptism.
18:58 I did not expect to see her
18:59 because she's a quiet kind of person.
19:01 Right.
19:02 I had no clue that that was stirring in her heart.
19:04 And she sat in my office
19:06 and then she just broke out weeping, saying,
19:07 "Pastor, I need to be reconnected to God.
19:11 I want to get close to God."
19:13 And so she reminds me of the man
19:16 with the story of Jesus
19:18 that was let down through the roof,
19:19 and he can't move, and he's sitting there,
19:21 and everyone's waiting for Jesus to heal him,
19:23 and the first thing that Jesus says is,
19:24 "Your sins are forgiven."
19:26 Wow.
19:27 And she reminds me of that story
19:29 where she came thinking it was about health
19:31 but realized that
19:32 what she needed was that relationship,
19:33 that bond with Christ.
19:35 And then, of course, the rest of her story is to boot.
19:38 Yes.
19:39 Well, that's an amazing story, and yes, that is a miracle.
19:43 It's a double miracle to me,
19:46 you know, to see what you've just said,
19:50 how it transformed her attitude and her whole spiritual walk
19:55 and the physical walk to boot,
19:57 it's just like wow, that actually happened here.
20:02 And, you know, people continually tell me
20:06 they feel the presence of the Lord on our campus.
20:10 They feel it with our students.
20:12 They feel it with our staff,
20:14 of course, with you and the doctors.
20:17 I get so much...
20:20 attaboys, if you will,
20:22 from the doctors who are kind, and loving, and caring.
20:26 These doctors, these men,
20:28 this staff has a Christ-like character.
20:33 They may not be all the way there,
20:35 but I can tell you this,
20:37 that a lot of them are pretty darn close.
20:41 And I just praise God that He doesn't give up on us.
20:45 He keeps wooing us
20:47 and bringing us ever closer to Him.
20:49 Sure. There is something, what you just said, about this.
20:52 It's not just the doctors or the chaplain, the therapist,
20:58 the entire environment has an impact on their health.
21:02 I mean, when she comes here, she's got, you know,
21:04 one of these things in her body,
21:08 a pack that she has to charge up
21:10 to keep a part of her brain in sync, so to speak,
21:13 so that she can walk.
21:15 And so when she first came here,
21:17 you know, she was all just mechanical and robotic.
21:20 Yeah.
21:21 She told me this,
21:23 I had her in session this morning for counseling,
21:24 she... I mean, she is moving near normal.
21:28 Wow.
21:29 So there is this physical healing
21:30 that's also taking place
21:32 in conjunction with the spiritual.
21:35 Both things have happened. Amen, amen.
21:38 We're out of time, brother. I want to thank you so much.
21:41 God bless you and your work here at the NEWSTART program.
21:45 But, friends, don't go away,
21:47 we have an important message for you following this.
21:53 Every year in America,
21:55 there are over one million deaths
21:56 because of type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity.
21:59 This includes heart attacks and strokes.
22:01 That's 6.5 747s crashing every day.
22:05 What's even worse is that the fix is easy.
22:08 It's your lifestyle.
22:10 Wouldn't it be nice if you could actually add
22:12 quality years to your life
22:13 rather than dying one organ at a time?
22:16 Obesity and diabetes are the cause
22:18 of over a million deaths per year.
22:20 Most diseases are reversible
22:22 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases,
22:25 especially type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity.
22:29 Seriously now, they can be reversed
22:31 and the quality of your life can be renewed.
22:35 Call NEWSTART Today at 1-800-525-9192.
22:41 You will see dramatic changes
22:42 in the first few days at our program
22:44 and you will be on the road
22:46 to a better, more robust quality of life.
22:49 The NEWSTART programs are simple and effective.
22:55 Hello, I'm Dr. Neil Nedley, this is NEWSTART Now,
22:59 and with me today is Dr. Eddie Ramirez.
23:02 And, Dr. Ramirez,
23:03 this study actually got a lot of interest
23:06 when it was presented by you in Las Vegas
23:10 at the Sexual Medicine Conference.
23:13 Since that time, it has been published
23:15 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine.
23:18 We're actually going to be talking about two studies
23:20 that were published
23:22 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine
23:23 and produced a lot of questions
23:26 and a lot of interest because it turns out
23:29 this had not really been looked at.
23:31 We're studying sex
23:33 in all sorts of different ways these days
23:35 in the scientific literature,
23:37 but sex in the context of a marriage relationship
23:41 versus not in a marriage relationship
23:44 is something that had not really been looked at.
23:46 And so tell us a little bit
23:48 about where these subjects came from
23:51 and what we were actually analyzing.
23:54 This is a nice, big sample,
23:55 5,621 participants of the community version
24:00 of the depression and recovery program
24:03 from all over the world.
24:05 And what we were looking at is
24:08 what relationship does sexual relationships
24:11 outside of the context of marriage,
24:14 what effect does that have on depression
24:17 and emotional intelligence.
24:20 So, Dr. Ramirez, a lot of people,
24:22 they want to have sex outside of marriage
24:25 because they think it's going to increase their happiness.
24:29 They might even think
24:31 it's one of the treatments for depression.
24:32 You know, they're depressed,
24:34 and so let's have casual sex, let's have it often,
24:37 and let's have it outside of a marriage relationship
24:41 and thus improve their mental health.
24:45 Is that what the study showed
24:46 that it improved the mental health?
24:48 Not necessarily. In fact, we found the opposite.
24:50 Okay.
24:51 Those people involved in sexual relationships
24:53 outside of marriage,
24:55 they actually had the worst indexes
24:58 among mental health
24:59 when we were measuring depression
25:01 by a standardized tool that we use
25:03 the depression and anxiety assessment test.
25:06 Okay, so it's one of those classic examples
25:08 of maybe short-term gain but long-term problems.
25:12 And, of course, that's why people turn to alcohol,
25:15 you know, they think it's going to help them out short-term,
25:17 but it ends up causing a lot more problems long-term.
25:20 And so this group
25:22 that was having sex outside of marriage,
25:26 how did their levels of depression compare?
25:28 So they had a moderate higher on average,
25:35 but some of them had
25:36 that type of severe type of depression,
25:40 those that were involving the sexual relationships
25:42 and sort of marriage.
25:44 While those that were not, usually their levels were
25:46 more of a low moderate level, mild, and so forth.
25:51 Okay.
25:52 So it made a significant difference
25:54 in the severity of depression.
25:56 And what else did you notice?
25:57 Well, we found that there is hope.
26:00 Even those people that were involved
26:02 in sexual relationships outside of marriage,
26:05 as they came to the program, understood the negative effects
26:09 that these have in their mental health
26:11 and stop that behavior, they were among those
26:15 that improved the most in the program
26:17 and were able to come down to no level of depression.
26:21 Okay, so if, during the eight-week program,
26:24 they change that practice,
26:26 they actually improved the most.
26:28 That's right.
26:29 And their levels of depression and anxiety
26:31 were much more likely to go away.
26:33 So if you made mistakes and so forth,
26:35 well, there's hope, you know,
26:37 there's hope of change of behavior,
26:39 and secondary to that,
26:41 you will have an improvement in your mental health.
26:44 Okay, so not only their depression scores
26:46 and anxiety scores improved,
26:48 if they were not having sex outside of marriage,
26:50 but you also did a separate study
26:53 measuring what?
26:54 Emotional intelligence.
26:56 And those with sexual relationships
26:58 outside of the context of marriage
27:00 at the beginning had the worst emotional intelligence.
27:04 Yet those that were able to stop that behavior
27:08 by the end of the program
27:10 improved the most their emotional intelligence,
27:13 coming up to 109.2 on average.
27:17 The nice thing about this is this program
27:20 is actually available to anyone today.
27:24 They can do it in their own home,
27:26 they can do it in a community-based program,
27:28 or they could actually come to Weimar Institute
27:30 and do the residential program, so three options
27:34 for dramatically improving levels of depression, anxiety,
27:38 and emotional intelligence.
27:40 I'm Dr. Neil Nedley, this is NEWSTART Now,
27:43 and join us again next week for another exciting study.
27:49 Well, friends, that's it for today.
27:51 But join us next week for another episode.
27:54 In the meantime, pick up the phone
27:56 and give us a call at 800-525-9192.
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