Hi, friends,
don't turn that dial.
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We have an
amazing story to follow.
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In the next 29.5 minutes,
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you're going to
witness a miracle.
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In our studio with
me today is Dr. Lukens.
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How are you? Thank you, sir.
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I'm always happy to
talk about these miracles.
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Yeah, we're going to
talk about Bonnie Coe
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and what's happened in her life.
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I can't wait to
see her interview
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and then come back with you,
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and so let's break away
for that interview, okay?
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Welcome back, friends.
Bonnie, how are you dear?
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I'm fine, thank you.
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Good. Good to
see you. Thank you.
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And I'm good to hear of
all these amazing things
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that are happening in your life.
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I'd like our guests that
are watching us right now
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to hear your story,
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and if you can just,
kind of, breeze through it,
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we don't have a lot of time.
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I'll try to condense my story.
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Okay.
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In 2005, I became disabled
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after taking a prescription
anti-nausea medication,
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disabled to the point
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where I was
bedbound for over four years
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until I had brain surgery
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because I had
uncontrolled movements.
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And they went away when I slept.
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So when I had the brain surgery
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and a deep brain
stimulator placed,
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it gave me my life back,
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but I still had trouble walking,
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and I still
obviously have some trouble
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with my speech.
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But I could not
coordinate the way I walked.
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So when you got here, I noticed
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you were kind of twitching
a little bit on one side.
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And what you're saying is
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your left and right foot wanted
to go together sometimes or...
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Well, when we walk,
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we automatically do
it without thinking.
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Right. The right leg goes...
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The left leg goes out,
the right arm at same time.
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Right. And then vice versa.
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I could not do that,
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even practicing
when I walked outside
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which was not real often.
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Right.
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And here somehow
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with all the
walking that we've done,
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it has happened
pretty automatically
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that I do that now.
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You're walking
like you used to walk.
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I'm walking pretty normal.
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Pretty normal. Yeah.
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And your speech is
pretty good too. I mean...
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Well, hopefully
is understandable.
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Well, sure.
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But it is different. Of
course, you wouldn't know that.
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No, I wouldn't know that.
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I talked to you when
you first arrived here.
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Yes. But that was brief.
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I didn't catch
anything like that.
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So now why do you
think that this has happened?
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How this healing,
that's obviously come on you,
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why do you think it's happened?
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Well, I think
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it's a combination of
the exercise that we do
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along with the food that we eat,
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getting enough rest,
pretty pampered here actually,
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pretty spoiled.
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What about the
spiritual component?
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The spiritual component,
this is all about God.
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My healing, at the beginning,
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the surgery was directed by God,
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and God brought me to NEWSTART.
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And it is God who is
healing me even further.
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And to Him, I
give all the glory,
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all the honor and praise for it.
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Amen, He's saying to you,
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"Take up your mat and walk."
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Right. And you're walking.
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You're doing a good job.
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How far are you
walking each day now?
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Well, some of the people here
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that are attending would laugh,
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but I'm up to
over two miles a day.
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That's nothing to laugh about.
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You couldn't walk
when you got here.
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You said rarely
you even got outside.
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Rarely. Well, yeah, I
didn't go on walks like now.
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So now you're over two miles.
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Over two miles.
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Do you see three
miles in the near future?
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Well, I was working up to it.
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Today, I got an extra
quarter mile this morning,
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and I will try
this evening also.
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Yes, good for you. Yeah.
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You know, I see that
there's hope in your eyes,
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in your heart,
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and that hope and
focus is on Jesus.
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And you know that He
is the master healer,
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a master
metaphysician, if you will,
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that He can heal us
from another planet,
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if you will,
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and He is obviously
working on you in such a way.
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I'm so happy for you.
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Yes, and one of the benefits,
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and this is not why I came here,
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but I've lost about 10 pounds.
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Wow.
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So like I said,
that's not why I came,
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I came for the other components,
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other programs.
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Yes. But I'm
really happy about it.
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Yes, of course.
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How much weight do
you want to lose yet?
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Probably, you know,
women are always unreasonable,
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but I would say about 30 pounds.
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Thirty pounds?
Well, you could do it.
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You'll do it. One day at a time.
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That's it, one day at a time.
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You know, it's an amazing thing
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the way God
created these bodies.
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What's amazing to me is
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all you got to do is
give them the right foods,
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it knows exactly
where you should be.
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Whether it's 125 or
135, it's going to balance,
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your BMI is going to be
where God intended it to be,
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it may be on the low side,
it may be on the high side,
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but you're on your way, girl.
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I think so. Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Good. You got a
great smile by the way.
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Thank you.
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Did you get that
from the surgery?
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I don't think so. No.
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No, they didn't throw that in.
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Well, I'm looking forward
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to hearing things in the future.
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I would pray and hope
that you would call us,
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and stay in touch, and
let us know of your progress.
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Could you do that?
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Well, I plan on.
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Dr. Lukens is
asking me to keep in touch.
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Yes.
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And he has given
us a form to fill out
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and send every month,
and yes, I plan on that.
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I want to thank you,
dear, for taking your time.
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And may God bless
you in so many ways.
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Thank you, Ron.
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Yeah, keep up the
good work. Thank you.
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And thank you,
friends, but don't go away,
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Dr. Lukens is up next.
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Every year in America,
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there are over
one million deaths
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because of type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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This includes heart
attacks and strokes.
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That's 6.5 747s
crashing every day.
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What's even worse is
that the fix is easy.
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It's your lifestyle.
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Wouldn't it be nice
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if you could actually add
quality years to your life
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rather than dying
one organ at a time?
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Obesity and
diabetes are the cause
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of over a
million deaths per year.
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Most diseases are reversible
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because most diseases
are lifestyle diseases,
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especially type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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Seriously now,
they can be reversed
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and the quality of
your life can be renewed.
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Call NEWSTART
Today at 1-800-525-9192.
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You will see dramatic changes
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in the first few
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and you will be on the road
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to a better, more
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The NEWSTART programs
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Welcome back, friends.
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Dr. Lukens, good
to see you again.
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I'm very good. I'm
excited about this.
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I am really excited
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because this is something
I've never seen before,
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but can you explain?
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It happens so, so rarely.
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Explain to our
viewers, what's going on here.
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Well, when a person has
damage to a part of their brain,
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there's more to the problem
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than just whatever's
going on in the neurons.
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How did that damage occur?
Do you know what happened?
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Yes, she had a
drug for nausea. Okay.
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Compazine.
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And I don't want people to just,
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"I'm never going to take it",
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but she had a very
strange reaction to it.
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And so what happened to her
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is it did something in her brain
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so that the
left side of her body
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just started going like this,
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we call it tardive
dyskinesia but hers was violent.
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And so finally,
she had to go to bed,
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and she went from
her normal weight down
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to 110 pounds,
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and all during the
day she was doing this.
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We call it tardive dyskinesia.
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And so for four years,
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she was like that.
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And they finally just said,
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"Well, we're going to
stimulate that part of the brain
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so it can't do that."
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So now, you know, the muscles
are all tight and everything
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because they're
trying to do that,
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but the brain simulator
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keeps it from going
on to the dyskinesia,
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which has given her a
certain amount of life,
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you know, back again.
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She was just...
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I don't know how
she could stand it.
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She's a nurse practitioner.
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She had to stop
doing what she's doing.
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She's got a good sense of humor,
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all these things are wonderful,
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but she'd really like
to get back to work again.
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Yeah. Now here's the thing.
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When she came in
with that dyskinesia,
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she wasn't able to...
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You know, how when you
walk, you swing your arm,
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she couldn't swing her arm.
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She couldn't walk very well.
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And also, when she
was trying to walk,
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that leg was, you know...
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And so it was a really
strange gate that she had.
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And after she had been on
this for about five or six days,
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she came in, and I was
going to do the lecture,
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and she said, "Dr. Lukens,
I want you to watch me now."
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And so she did a relatively
normal walk and she said,
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"Look at what I can do now."
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Big smile, you see.
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And, you know,
she's the only one
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that had a brain problem
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that I've had so
far with a medication,
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and very, very, very rarely,
fortunately that it happens.
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So she's gone
through an awful lot.
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But besides
that, she had diabetes.
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She had diabetes?
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Yeah. Well, okay, she came
in with insulin for diabetes.
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She came in with
another medication
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that whips the pancreas to
make more and more insulin.
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Oh, no.
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And, you know,
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those that are
watching those medications,
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they realize that
they're not good for you.
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So we got her off
of that one first,
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I mean, as well as
getting her off the insulin.
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And, you know,
being a nurse practitioner
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is, kind of, like, you
know, and, "Doc, are you sure?
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I could be dead, you know?"
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And I said, "Well,
here's what they're doing
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in the big
United Kingdom study."
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And she says, "Oh,
well, let's drop it."
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And so now she's
really, really happy,
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she still got
some struggles, but...
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Sure.
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We just did another
treadmill test on her.
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She was able to sort
of eke out seven minutes.
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Wow. And then
this time she did 9.5.
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Wow. Yeah.
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That's incredible.
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Yeah, and the thing is that,
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you know, I think when she
saw such rapid improvements,
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she was hoping that, you know,
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she was going to
walk out totally well,
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but she's agreed to
stay in touch with us.
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We'll keep
following her progress,
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and we'll see
else the Lord will do
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with the miracle
path that she's on.
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Has she put on any
weight or lost any weight?
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She's lost, yeah.
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And so she's off
these medications,
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off the insulin, right?
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And the other one was...
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Generally, if you
use enough of that,
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you're going to
have to use insulin
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because it's going to...
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They equipped,
just in lay terms,
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they keep whipping the
pancreas to make more insulin
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until they can't do it anymore.
00:14:47.55\00:14:49.35
Until it's
doesn't beat to death.
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Yeah.
00:14:51.29\00:14:52.62
So now we're going
to follow up on her
00:14:52.65\00:14:57.53
and encourage her to stay.
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Well, she looks like
00:14:59.36\00:15:00.70
she's going to
stick with the program.
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Oh, man, you know,
00:15:02.46\00:15:03.80
if you've gone
through four years in bed
00:15:03.83\00:15:07.14
or you're jerking all
day long and, you know,
00:15:07.17\00:15:10.27
you just don't
have any life, it's...
00:15:10.31\00:15:14.01
She's going to
stick to the program.
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She's going to
do something, yeah.
00:15:15.88\00:15:17.21
She's already so much better.
00:15:17.25\00:15:19.88
I hope she'll be
able to get back to work
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because she's got... You
know, she's really bright.
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Is there any other
medications that she was on
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that she's no longer taking?
00:15:29.06\00:15:31.19
Well, you know,
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well, we take them
off as we can, yeah.
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Okay, like blood
pressure meds and stuff?
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Yeah, things like that.
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Yeah. Well, that's awesome.
00:15:39.50\00:15:41.44
I'm glad that we
were able to help.
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I want to ask you this.
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Do you feel that God,
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His presence on this campus,
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has a lot to do
with this healing?
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Well, let me say it this way,
00:15:56.25\00:15:58.05
whether you have a common cold
or you have metastatic cancer,
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God is the healer. Amen.
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I'm glad you say that.
00:16:04.46\00:16:06.43
I already know the answer,
00:16:06.46\00:16:07.80
but I wanted to
hear from a doctor.
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Yeah.
00:16:09.20\00:16:10.53
Well, we've run out of time,
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but I want to thank
you so much for being here.
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Thank you, doc.
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I'm really
excited about this, man.
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I'm glad that we're doing this.
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I am too.
00:16:20.48\00:16:21.94
Thank you,
friends, but don't go away,
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Pastor Snead is up next.
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Welcome back, friends.
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Pastor Snead.
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How you doing? Good, brother.
00:16:32.59\00:16:34.26
I'm going to call
you Damon. That's right.
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That's your
name, right? Yes, sir.
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You know, I'm really
excited for a lot of reasons.
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Now the viewers don't know
00:16:43.30\00:16:44.80
what's happened
here in the last 16 days.
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But I promised them
they're going to witness
00:16:48.90\00:16:51.07
a miracle in the
next 29.5 minutes.
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Can you speak about
that for the next little bit?
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Oh, sure, in regards to Miss...
00:16:58.75\00:17:00.88
Miss Bonnie. Miss Bonnie, yeah.
00:17:00.92\00:17:03.35
Miss Bonnie would definitely
classify as a miracle,
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especially when you see
what she came here with.
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If you noticed
how she was walking,
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you know, she had
some physical impairments.
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But that's not the miracle part
00:17:14.30\00:17:16.36
that I want to
talk about the most.
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I was hoping you're going
to bring in another aspect.
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Yeah, you know, and we
had some great conversations,
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and she comes
with a broken life.
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She has a real
tragic story in her life.
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A lot of the things
that she's been through,
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broken marriages, you
know, abuse as a young lady,
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had really suffered a
lot of terrible things,
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and the death of her husband.
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And so she had come here
00:17:40.86\00:17:42.19
with a lot of emotional baggage,
00:17:42.22\00:17:44.33
and then she ends
up taking a simple drug
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that many, many people take
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and it gives her this terrible
00:17:48.63\00:17:50.50
debilitating neurological issue.
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Compazine.
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Yeah, she can't walk. Right.
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So she comes here figuring
00:17:56.77\00:17:58.11
that the one
thing that she can do
00:17:58.14\00:17:59.47
is maybe just at
the end of... Towards...
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You know, she's not a
spring chicken no more,
00:18:01.28\00:18:03.48
so the last
thing that she can do
00:18:03.51\00:18:04.91
is maybe recoup her health
00:18:04.95\00:18:06.45
and have some kind
of enjoyment of life.
00:18:06.48\00:18:08.95
But she gets here and thinking
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that's all that
it's going to be about,
00:18:10.75\00:18:12.15
but she gives just
this tear-jerking testimony,
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Sabbath afternoon.
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She's one of the
people that were re-baptized,
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and she's telling
everybody, she's just saying,
00:18:19.73\00:18:23.30
"I came here thinking that
00:18:23.33\00:18:25.00
all that I could get
from life is just health,
00:18:25.03\00:18:27.50
but I came here realizing
00:18:27.54\00:18:28.87
God brought me here
for a spiritual renewal.
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God brought me here to recoup
my relationship with Him."
00:18:32.24\00:18:36.44
Because what's
happened to her is,
00:18:36.48\00:18:38.41
over the years, every tragedy,
00:18:38.45\00:18:40.52
every terrible
thing that's happened
00:18:40.55\00:18:42.55
has driven her further
and further away from God
00:18:42.58\00:18:44.45
and she didn't realize that
00:18:44.49\00:18:46.02
until she sat in
those Fresh Start lectures
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realizing that she has
been so far away from God.
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And she came into my
office that second week
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when we offered the appeal
00:18:54.73\00:18:56.06
to rededicate
your life in baptism.
00:18:56.10\00:18:58.13
I did not expect to see her
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because she's a
quiet kind of person.
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Right.
00:19:01.24\00:19:02.57
I had no clue that that
was stirring in her heart.
00:19:02.60\00:19:04.77
And she sat in my office
00:19:04.81\00:19:06.14
and then she just
broke out weeping, saying,
00:19:06.17\00:19:07.91
"Pastor, I need to
be reconnected to God.
00:19:07.94\00:19:11.21
I want to get close to God."
00:19:11.25\00:19:13.72
And so she reminds me of the man
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with the story of Jesus
00:19:16.79\00:19:18.12
that was let
down through the roof,
00:19:18.15\00:19:19.62
and he can't move,
and he's sitting there,
00:19:19.65\00:19:21.66
and everyone's
waiting for Jesus to heal him,
00:19:21.69\00:19:23.26
and the first
thing that Jesus says is,
00:19:23.29\00:19:24.73
"Your sins are forgiven."
00:19:24.76\00:19:26.09
Wow.
00:19:26.13\00:19:27.46
And she reminds me of that story
00:19:27.50\00:19:29.03
where she came
thinking it was about health
00:19:29.06\00:19:31.03
but realized that
00:19:31.07\00:19:32.40
what she needed
was that relationship,
00:19:32.43\00:19:33.94
that bond with Christ.
00:19:33.97\00:19:35.90
And then, of course, the
rest of her story is to boot.
00:19:35.94\00:19:38.44
Yes.
00:19:38.47\00:19:39.81
Well, that's an amazing story,
and yes, that is a miracle.
00:19:39.84\00:19:43.71
It's a double miracle to me,
00:19:43.75\00:19:46.08
you know, to see
what you've just said,
00:19:46.11\00:19:50.05
how it transformed her attitude
and her whole spiritual walk
00:19:50.09\00:19:55.36
and the physical walk to boot,
00:19:55.39\00:19:57.66
it's just like wow,
that actually happened here.
00:19:57.69\00:20:02.36
And, you know,
people continually tell me
00:20:02.40\00:20:06.63
they feel the presence
of the Lord on our campus.
00:20:06.67\00:20:10.47
They feel it with our students.
00:20:10.51\00:20:12.64
They feel it with our staff,
00:20:12.67\00:20:14.64
of course, with
you and the doctors.
00:20:14.68\00:20:17.85
I get so much...
00:20:17.88\00:20:20.65
attaboys, if you will,
00:20:20.68\00:20:22.25
from the doctors who are
kind, and loving, and caring.
00:20:22.28\00:20:26.29
These doctors, these men,
00:20:26.32\00:20:28.16
this staff has a
Christ-like character.
00:20:28.19\00:20:33.93
They may not be
all the way there,
00:20:33.96\00:20:35.70
but I can tell you this,
00:20:35.73\00:20:37.60
that a lot of them
are pretty darn close.
00:20:37.63\00:20:41.60
And I just praise God
that He doesn't give up on us.
00:20:41.64\00:20:45.74
He keeps wooing us
00:20:45.77\00:20:47.31
and bringing us
ever closer to Him.
00:20:47.34\00:20:49.08
Sure. There is something,
what you just said, about this.
00:20:49.11\00:20:51.98
It's not just the doctors
or the chaplain, the therapist,
00:20:52.01\00:20:58.29
the entire environment
has an impact on their health.
00:20:58.32\00:21:02.42
I mean, when she comes
here, she's got, you know,
00:21:02.46\00:21:04.49
one of these things in her body,
00:21:04.53\00:21:08.13
a pack that she has to charge up
00:21:08.16\00:21:10.43
to keep a part of her
brain in sync, so to speak,
00:21:10.47\00:21:13.67
so that she can walk.
00:21:13.70\00:21:15.74
And so when she first came here,
00:21:15.77\00:21:17.11
you know, she was all
just mechanical and robotic.
00:21:17.14\00:21:20.31
Yeah.
00:21:20.34\00:21:21.68
She told me this,
00:21:21.71\00:21:23.04
I had her in session
this morning for counseling,
00:21:23.08\00:21:24.75
she... I mean, she
is moving near normal.
00:21:24.78\00:21:28.22
Wow.
00:21:28.25\00:21:29.58
So there is
this physical healing
00:21:29.62\00:21:30.95
that's also taking place
00:21:30.99\00:21:32.82
in conjunction
with the spiritual.
00:21:32.85\00:21:35.32
Both things have
happened. Amen, amen.
00:21:35.36\00:21:38.09
We're out of time, brother.
I want to thank you so much.
00:21:38.13\00:21:41.76
God bless you and your work
here at the NEWSTART program.
00:21:41.80\00:21:45.03
But, friends, don't go away,
00:21:45.07\00:21:47.00
we have an important
message for you following this.
00:21:47.04\00:21:50.61
Every year in America,
00:21:53.98\00:21:55.31
there are over
one million deaths
00:21:55.34\00:21:56.68
because of type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
00:21:56.71\00:21:59.45
This includes heart
attacks and strokes.
00:21:59.48\00:22:01.88
That's 6.5 747s
crashing every day.
00:22:01.92\00:22:05.45
What's even worse is
that the fix is easy.
00:22:05.49\00:22:08.86
It's your lifestyle.
00:22:08.89\00:22:10.49
Wouldn't it be nice
if you could actually add
00:22:10.53\00:22:12.33
quality years to your life
00:22:12.36\00:22:13.76
rather than dying
one organ at a time?
00:22:13.80\00:22:16.67
Obesity and
diabetes are the cause
00:22:16.70\00:22:18.30
of over a
million deaths per year.
00:22:18.33\00:22:20.87
Most diseases are reversible
00:22:20.90\00:22:22.94
because most diseases
are lifestyle diseases,
00:22:22.97\00:22:25.91
especially type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
00:22:25.94\00:22:29.28
Seriously now,
they can be reversed
00:22:29.31\00:22:31.61
and the quality of
your life can be renewed.
00:22:31.65\00:22:35.18
Call NEWSTART
Today at 1-800-525-9192.
00:22:35.22\00:22:41.42
You will see dramatic changes
00:22:41.46\00:22:42.89
in the first few
days at our program
00:22:42.92\00:22:44.96
and you will be on the road
00:22:44.99\00:22:46.33
to a better, more
robust quality of life.
00:22:46.36\00:22:49.03
The NEWSTART programs
are simple and effective.
00:22:49.06\00:22:52.70
Hello, I'm Dr. Neil
Nedley, this is NEWSTART Now,
00:22:55.90\00:22:59.44
and with me today
is Dr. Eddie Ramirez.
00:22:59.47\00:23:02.18
And, Dr. Ramirez,
00:23:02.21\00:23:03.55
this study actually
got a lot of interest
00:23:03.58\00:23:06.78
when it was
presented by you in Las Vegas
00:23:06.82\00:23:10.92
at the Sexual
Medicine Conference.
00:23:10.95\00:23:13.79
Since that time,
it has been published
00:23:13.82\00:23:15.76
in the Journal
of Sexual Medicine.
00:23:15.79\00:23:17.99
We're actually going to
be talking about two studies
00:23:18.03\00:23:20.66
that were published
00:23:20.70\00:23:22.03
in the Journal
of Sexual Medicine
00:23:22.06\00:23:23.57
and produced a lot of questions
00:23:23.60\00:23:26.77
and a lot of
interest because it turns out
00:23:26.80\00:23:29.37
this had not
really been looked at.
00:23:29.40\00:23:31.57
We're studying sex
00:23:31.61\00:23:33.17
in all sorts of
different ways these days
00:23:33.21\00:23:35.54
in the scientific literature,
00:23:35.58\00:23:37.51
but sex in the context
of a marriage relationship
00:23:37.55\00:23:41.45
versus not in a
marriage relationship
00:23:41.48\00:23:44.12
is something that had
not really been looked at.
00:23:44.15\00:23:46.89
And so tell us a little bit
00:23:46.92\00:23:48.66
about where these
subjects came from
00:23:48.69\00:23:51.23
and what we were
actually analyzing.
00:23:51.26\00:23:54.16
This is a nice, big sample,
00:23:54.20\00:23:55.86
5,621 participants
of the community version
00:23:55.90\00:24:00.84
of the depression
and recovery program
00:24:00.87\00:24:03.44
from all over the world.
00:24:03.47\00:24:05.54
And what we were looking at is
00:24:05.57\00:24:08.21
what relationship
does sexual relationships
00:24:08.24\00:24:11.51
outside of the
context of marriage,
00:24:11.55\00:24:14.08
what effect does
that have on depression
00:24:14.12\00:24:17.72
and emotional intelligence.
00:24:17.75\00:24:20.26
So, Dr.
Ramirez, a lot of people,
00:24:20.29\00:24:22.52
they want to have
sex outside of marriage
00:24:22.56\00:24:25.63
because they think it's going
to increase their happiness.
00:24:25.66\00:24:29.76
They might even think
00:24:29.80\00:24:31.13
it's one of the
treatments for depression.
00:24:31.17\00:24:32.87
You know, they're depressed,
00:24:32.90\00:24:34.24
and so let's have casual
sex, let's have it often,
00:24:34.27\00:24:37.41
and let's have it outside
of a marriage relationship
00:24:37.44\00:24:41.44
and thus improve
their mental health.
00:24:41.48\00:24:45.38
Is that what the study showed
00:24:45.41\00:24:46.75
that it improved
the mental health?
00:24:46.78\00:24:48.12
Not necessarily. In
fact, we found the opposite.
00:24:48.15\00:24:50.32
Okay.
00:24:50.35\00:24:51.69
Those people involved
in sexual relationships
00:24:51.72\00:24:53.79
outside of marriage,
00:24:53.82\00:24:55.29
they actually
had the worst indexes
00:24:55.32\00:24:58.13
among mental health
00:24:58.16\00:24:59.79
when we were
measuring depression
00:24:59.83\00:25:01.86
by a
standardized tool that we use
00:25:01.90\00:25:03.87
the depression and
anxiety assessment test.
00:25:03.90\00:25:06.43
Okay, so it's one of
those classic examples
00:25:06.47\00:25:08.84
of maybe short-term
gain but long-term problems.
00:25:08.87\00:25:12.91
And, of course, that's
why people turn to alcohol,
00:25:12.94\00:25:15.11
you know, they think it's going
to help them out short-term,
00:25:15.14\00:25:17.18
but it ends up causing a
lot more problems long-term.
00:25:17.21\00:25:20.68
And so this group
00:25:20.72\00:25:22.82
that was having sex
outside of marriage,
00:25:22.85\00:25:26.32
how did their levels
of depression compare?
00:25:26.35\00:25:28.66
So they had a
moderate higher on average,
00:25:28.69\00:25:35.56
but some of them had
00:25:35.60\00:25:36.93
that type of
severe type of depression,
00:25:36.97\00:25:40.30
those that were involving
the sexual relationships
00:25:40.34\00:25:42.80
and sort of marriage.
00:25:42.84\00:25:44.17
While those that were
not, usually their levels were
00:25:44.21\00:25:46.88
more of a low moderate
level, mild, and so forth.
00:25:46.91\00:25:51.48
Okay.
00:25:51.51\00:25:52.85
So it made a
significant difference
00:25:52.88\00:25:54.22
in the severity of depression.
00:25:54.25\00:25:56.08
And what else did you notice?
00:25:56.12\00:25:57.62
Well, we found
that there is hope.
00:25:57.65\00:26:00.12
Even those people
that were involved
00:26:00.16\00:26:02.76
in sexual relationships
outside of marriage,
00:26:02.79\00:26:05.19
as they came to the program,
understood the negative effects
00:26:05.23\00:26:09.10
that these have in
their mental health
00:26:09.13\00:26:11.53
and stop that
behavior, they were among those
00:26:11.57\00:26:15.37
that improved the
most in the program
00:26:15.40\00:26:17.51
and were able to come
down to no level of depression.
00:26:17.54\00:26:21.51
Okay, so if, during
the eight-week program,
00:26:21.54\00:26:24.31
they change that practice,
00:26:24.35\00:26:26.41
they actually improved the most.
00:26:26.45\00:26:28.15
That's right.
00:26:28.18\00:26:29.52
And their levels of
depression and anxiety
00:26:29.55\00:26:31.52
were much more
likely to go away.
00:26:31.55\00:26:33.82
So if you made
mistakes and so forth,
00:26:33.86\00:26:35.69
well, there's hope, you know,
00:26:35.72\00:26:37.06
there's hope of
change of behavior,
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and secondary to that,
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you will have an improvement
in your mental health.
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Okay, so not only
their depression scores
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and anxiety scores improved,
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if they were not having
sex outside of marriage,
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but you also
did a separate study
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measuring what?
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Emotional intelligence.
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And those with
sexual relationships
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outside of the
context of marriage
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at the beginning had the
worst emotional intelligence.
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Yet those that were
able to stop that behavior
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by the end of the program
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improved the most
their emotional intelligence,
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coming up to 109.2 on average.
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The nice thing
about this is this program
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is actually
available to anyone today.
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They can do it
in their own home,
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they can do it in a
community-based program,
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or they could actually
come to Weimar Institute
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and do the residential
program, so three options
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for dramatically improving
levels of depression, anxiety,
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and emotional intelligence.
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I'm Dr. Neil Nedley,
this is NEWSTART Now,
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