Friends, don't turn that
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to follow in the
next 29 and 1\2 minutes.
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You're going to
witness a miracle.
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In our studio with
me today is Dr. Lukens.
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How are you,
doc? Thank you, sir.
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I'm always happy to
talk about this miracle.
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I can't wait to
see her interview
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and then come back with you.
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So let's breakaway
for that interview, okay?
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Welcome back, friends.
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Rosie, how are you, dear?
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I'm good. Good.
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Good.
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Let's get right
into your story here.
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Okay. When I first
came here, I wasn't happy.
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Why weren't you happy?
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because, I mean, I
tried to lose weight,
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it didn't work.
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Why do you think that's so?
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Because I
wouldn't eat a proper diet.
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Okay.
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And so you were depressed?
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Well, kind of, not really.
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But kind of? Just kind of sad.
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That's depressing to me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they said I didn't
have much color in my face,
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I wasn't happy, you know.
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Well, you got color now.
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But everybody said, you know,
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"Since you've
been here for a week,"
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they say that,
"you're looking happy,
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you've got color in your face,
and you just look overjoyed."
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Yeah.
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I said, "Well, I
am for the most part
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but I have this crazy cough,"
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and that kept me kind
of druggy, a little bit,
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kind of tired and stuff.
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So I didn't want to
get out and do anything.
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Yes.
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But now that it's
gotten a little better,
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I'm able to get
out and walk two miles
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almost every day.
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Good job.
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And it just
helped my leg altogether,
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it doesn't hurt no more, hardly.
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And what about
your insulin resistance?
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And I've been on
insulin for 32 years.
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Thirty two years.
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And when I got here,
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Dr. Lukens took me
completely off of my insulin,
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completely out my
metformin, and off on my lipitor
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which is my high
cholesterol pill.
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And he's very proud.
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He says my pancreas is
making more insulin than normal.
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And my blood sugars
are slowly coming down,
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but they're not down
to the normal range yet.
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He said it might take
another three to six months.
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Now did your
doctor at home tell you
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you'd be on
insulin all your life?
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Mm-Hm.
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How did he break
that news to you?
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Well, she
didn't actually tell me
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that I was going to be on
insulin the rest of my life,
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she told me I was
going to be on metformin
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for the rest of my life.
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So you'd be diabetic
for the rest of your life?
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Yeah. I see.
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And so now that
I'm off of my insulin,
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off of the metformin, I'm
feeling a whole lot better
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'cause the insulin, you know,
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I've been insulin
dependent for 32 years.
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Wow!
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And it's just a
miracle that I'm off of it.
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Wow. Praise god.
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So I'm very, very happy.
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Is that expensive?
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Yes, it's one of the most
expensive prescriptions I have.
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Really?
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What other
prescriptions you have?
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Oh, I have the metformin
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And I had teranol.
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I got two...
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I'm on a water pill lasix
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for edema and a potassium pill.
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And I'm on two different
pills for my restless leg
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that I have at night
especially, and that's it.
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Yeah. That's it.
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Well, do you see that
staying on this program
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that you've learned
in the last 16 days,
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you may be able to
get rid of those two?
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Yes.
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Yeah. Yes. Good.
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How do you weight? How
are you doing your weight?
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I've lost 13 pounds total.
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And my goal that
i told my husband
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that I'm going to
lose was 10-15 pounds.
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Well, you're right there.
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I got two more to go to my goal.
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And you got a couple more days.
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You loosed about
two pounds a day.
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Yep.
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So you can expect to
lose another two pounds.
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Yeah, I hope.
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Good job. Good job.
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Yeah, hope to lose more.
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So what did you like
most about our program here?
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It was just the
caring of the nurses,
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caring of the doctors,
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and just the
people that I'm here with,
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they all cared.
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They all care.
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Have you ever been
around a group of doctors
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or nurses that cared so much?
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No. No, neither was I.
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Not till I came here.
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How you liked the food?
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Oh, it took me a
while to get used to it.
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But now I enjoy it now.
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Did Michele teach
you some good things?
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Oh, yes, she did.
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Isn't she a delight?
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Yes. Yeah.
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She taught us how to make
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banana-Strawberry
ice cream today
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with just a fruit.
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With just a fruit.
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And it was good.
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She freezes it and put
it through the champion.
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She took it out of the freezer
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and put it in
the vitamix blender
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and, you know, it
took a little time
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to break up the fruit
because they were frozen solid.
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Yes.
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It was really good.
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Everything we did
so far has been good.
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Good. Everything.
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Now what about the
hydro and the massage?
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Oh, I enjoy those.
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Who was your therapist?
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I can never pronounce her name,
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Nishong, something like that.
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Yeah. Yeah, Nishong. Yep.
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Oh, good. Yep.
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I told myself yesterday,
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I said, "I like to
have another massage please.
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My shoulder is hurting again."
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Well, I get one
tomorrow, so that's okay.
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So when you get home,
what are you going to do?
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Continue on the
diet, continue on walking,
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continue everything
I've done here at home.
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What about your
husband? How's he?
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Is he going to be
out walking with you?
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He will be on the weekends
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because he works
away from the house a lot,
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so he eats on the run.
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Okay.
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So it will be,
you know, hard for him
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to do it during the
week, but on weekends, he says,
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"Well, I'll eat
whatever you cook
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because everything in the house
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is going to be
what you can eat."
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Amen.
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So he's supposed
to have everything
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out of the
refrigerator and freezer
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that I'm not supposed
to have, and cupboards.
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Good job.
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So he agreed to do that for me,
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so I wouldn't have to
do it when I get home.
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I go, "Whoa!
That was really good."
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I want to thank you
for taking your time
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and being willing to come here.
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God bless you, dear.
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God bless you too.
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And we will be in touch.
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Don't go away, friends,
'cause Dr. Lukens is up next.
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Welcome back, friends.
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Dr. Lukens, it's
so good to see you.
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Yeah, very, very good.
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You know, I'm really excited
about this interview today
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because we're going to
talk about another miracle.
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And so what I
want to get from you
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if you would please,
from a doctor's perspective,
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tell us about
what has happened here,
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why is this so unique?
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Well, it really
isn't that unique,
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but it's unique to what
usually is told to the patients
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because this is
a delightful lady,
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but she is overweight, a lot.
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And when she went
in to see the doctor,
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he told her, he said,
"You're going to be on insulin
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for the rest of your life
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because you're not
making insulin anymore."
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And, you know, I didn't
know what all she had done
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and, you know, they
said what they understand.
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And so I thought,
"Well, maybe she isn't."
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But she was on just
under 400 units of insulin.
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And, of course,
we talk about this.
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When they come in,
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they get some food
for a day and a half,
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and then we put them on a fast.
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Even if she were a type 1,
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we would take her
off of her insulin
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because you just have to.
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And in type 1s, they
freak out when we say that,
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but we watch them very closely.
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So she came in and
her blood sugars range,
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she said between 250 and 550,
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and that's on the insulin.
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And it's really
hard to chase it,
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you also can't lose
weight on that because,
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you know, your blood
sugars are all over the place.
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So when she came
in, it's kind of like,
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"So we're going to
fast? This is no food fast?"
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"Yeah, that's it."
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And her blood
sugars went down to,
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like 120-140
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during that time.
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So now here is the
kicker on this one,
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as she went off the fast,
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she had developed a
urinary tract infection,
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and upper respiratory infection,
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and she was
coughing during the night,
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so she wasn't sleeping well.
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And all of those stressors
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shot her sugar
back up to 450 and 550.
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Well, you know,
she was concerned,
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"Shouldn't I be
taking some insulin?"
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I said, "Well,
let's see what happens."
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So we've got a special
test, it's called c-Peptide.
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And she was making
twice the amount of insulin
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that we normally see.
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And so I thought, "Okay,
insulin is not the problem.
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So let's have her
continue to do this."
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And slowly,
slowly she's come down.
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And from our experience,
we can see that the people,
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as the adipose tissue comes off,
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as the fat comes off,
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especially as
they're exercising,
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it doesn't take
very much or any insulin
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to get the sugar
into the muscles.
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And so now she's, you know,
she's beaming, she's smiling
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because those things are gone
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and her blood
sugar is coming down now,
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and she's happy, and she's off
of almost all the medications.
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And then to be told
that she'd be on the,
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you know, those
fingers and the injections,
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and she was doing
five injections a day.
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And it's just an
entirely different life now.
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Let me add a point here.
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A lot of you diabetics out there
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know what doctor
is talking about.
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There are other
viewers that don't know.
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And let me just
describe it this way,
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we are watching
a miracle happen,
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a woman that's been told
she's not making any insulin,
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we're finding out
she's putting out twice
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as much as she needs,
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she gets off the
insulin and other drugs,
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medications that she's taking,
and she's doing well, right?
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Yes.
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She's thrilled
because she keeps talking
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to her husband and
he's delighted as well.
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He's just happy as a clown.
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Yeah because, you
know, he loves her character.
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Or i should say her character.
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But, you know, I mean,
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this is something that
impacts the whole family.
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Amen. Amen.
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And when she's having trouble,
whether her blood sugars
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are too low or
too high or whatever,
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and, you know, they
love each other to pieces,
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but sometimes,
there is a lot of pieces.
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Yeah, lot of stress. Yeah.
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So what's her prognosis?
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What does she do from here now?
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She's going to stick
with the program I'm sure.
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Okay,
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well, we need to make
sure that she does that.
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We've had other people
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that are in a similar situation.
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And if somebody out
there wants to know,
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you go to TED Talks,
and look at Neil Barnard,
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N-E-I-L B-A-R-N-A-R-D.
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And he will tell you
that type 2 diabetics,
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from a big
government funded study,
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type 2 diabetics
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don't have to be
diabetic anymore.
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And that came up in 2012,
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and it's the
most wonderful thing,
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I just keep showing it
to people wherever I go.
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Well, I keep showing
people your interviews
00:14:01.90\00:14:04.77
because I placed a
value here, right here,
00:14:04.81\00:14:08.44
because you've taught
me in the last 12 years,
00:14:08.48\00:14:12.05
seeing hundreds of
people reversing their diabetes
00:14:12.08\00:14:15.52
over and over and over again.
00:14:15.55\00:14:17.52
It's nice that Neil
Barnard is doing that
00:14:17.55\00:14:21.39
because he has a huge following.
00:14:21.42\00:14:23.69
But, you know, we will too.
00:14:23.73\00:14:25.83
The thing is
that people probably,
00:14:25.86\00:14:28.40
you know, there's
people that say this
00:14:28.43\00:14:29.96
and there's people who
say that and you think,
00:14:30.00\00:14:31.33
"What are they talking about?"
00:14:31.37\00:14:33.07
But when somebody
has a government study
00:14:33.10\00:14:36.07
and can make those,
it's very, very incredible.
00:14:36.10\00:14:39.57
More credible,
more credible. Yeah.
00:14:39.61\00:14:41.21
Then the other doctors
say, "Well, you know..."
00:14:41.24\00:14:43.61
And then Physicians Committee
for Responsible Medicine,
00:14:43.65\00:14:47.52
"Oh, not so much".
00:14:47.55\00:14:49.55
But it's there,
00:14:49.58\00:14:51.12
and if you want to get off
of most of your medications
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and eventually,
probably, all of them,
00:14:55.36\00:14:57.39
as you stay on this program,
00:14:57.43\00:14:59.59
you will be
wonderfully surprised.
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She's not the only
one in this session,
00:15:02.86\00:15:04.50
we've got four others.
00:15:04.53\00:15:05.87
Yes. We've run out of time.
00:15:05.90\00:15:08.57
But I want to thank you, doctor.
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Yeah, well,
thanks for doing this.
00:15:10.27\00:15:12.34
Oh, yeah, well,
thank you for being here.
00:15:12.37\00:15:14.94
And thank you,
friends, but don't go away
00:15:14.98\00:15:18.18
Pastor Snead is up next.
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Every year in America,
00:15:24.62\00:15:25.95
there are over
one million deaths
00:15:25.99\00:15:27.32
because of type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
00:15:27.36\00:15:30.33
This includes heart
attacks and strokes.
00:15:30.36\00:15:32.66
That's six and a half
747s crashing every day.
00:15:32.69\00:15:36.20
What's even worse is
that the fix is easy.
00:15:36.23\00:15:39.63
It's your lifestyle.
00:15:39.67\00:15:41.17
Wouldn't it be nice
if you could actually add
00:15:41.20\00:15:43.07
quality years to your life
00:15:43.10\00:15:44.44
rather than dying
one organ at a time?
00:15:44.47\00:15:47.31
Obesity and
diabetes are the cause
00:15:47.34\00:15:49.08
of over a
million deaths per year.
00:15:49.11\00:15:51.61
Most diseases are reversible
00:15:51.65\00:15:53.68
because most diseases
are lifestyle diseases,
00:15:53.72\00:15:56.58
especially type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
00:15:56.62\00:16:00.06
Seriously, now
they can be reversed
00:16:00.09\00:16:02.19
and the quality of
your life can be renewed.
00:16:02.22\00:16:05.83
Call NEWSTART
today at 1-800-525-9192.
00:16:05.86\00:16:12.10
You will see dramatic changes
00:16:12.13\00:16:13.57
in the first few
days at our program,
00:16:13.60\00:16:15.64
and you will be on the road
00:16:15.67\00:16:17.01
to a better more
robust quality of life.
00:16:17.04\00:16:19.71
The NEWSTART programs
are simple and effective.
00:16:19.74\00:16:23.04
Welcome back, friends.
00:16:26.85\00:16:28.18
Pastor Snead, good
to see you, my brother.
00:16:28.22\00:16:30.72
Thank you. How you doing?
00:16:30.75\00:16:32.09
I'm doing great, and I
know you're doing great
00:16:32.12\00:16:34.56
because you had four
baptisms out of this group.
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Yes, sir.
00:16:38.26\00:16:39.59
You know, doesn't
that just make you excited?
00:16:39.63\00:16:42.26
What Don Mackintosh
says, "It's our payment."
00:16:42.30\00:16:44.70
"It's our payment."
That's how we really get paid.
00:16:44.73\00:16:47.74
And these graduations
which is tomorrow night,
00:16:47.77\00:16:51.14
I love to
attend the graduations.
00:16:51.17\00:16:53.11
Yes, sir.
00:16:53.14\00:16:54.48
But let's talk about Miss Rosie.
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Sure. Sure. Okay.
00:16:56.48\00:16:58.25
And you described her,
before we got on the program,
00:16:58.28\00:17:02.22
as being, you
know, kind of quiet,
00:17:02.25\00:17:04.62
a little
withdrawn, a little depressed,
00:17:04.65\00:17:07.42
little of this, little
of that, what happened?
00:17:07.46\00:17:10.59
Well, I misjudged her
at first. I thought...
00:17:10.63\00:17:13.90
When I first see,
I'm always evaluating
00:17:13.93\00:17:16.00
everybody who's going, I
think it's going to be work,
00:17:16.03\00:17:17.93
and when I saw
her, she was a moper,
00:17:17.97\00:17:20.77
very quiet, very withdrawn.
00:17:20.80\00:17:22.70
Later, I got to realize
00:17:22.74\00:17:24.07
that she was
battling some depression
00:17:24.11\00:17:26.01
and feeling really terrible.
00:17:26.04\00:17:28.04
And so, you know, everyone
got that sense from her,
00:17:28.08\00:17:30.58
we were just kind
of worried about her
00:17:30.61\00:17:31.95
and how she was
going to do the program,
00:17:31.98\00:17:33.62
she didn't seem
to be participating
00:17:33.65\00:17:35.08
with a lot of people.
00:17:35.12\00:17:36.45
And, of course,
by the second week,
00:17:36.48\00:17:39.45
everyone's talking about Rosie.
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Everybody's talking about...
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Yes, I mean I saw it
probably the Tuesday,
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the second week,
the Tuesday there.
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I was walking down the
hallway, and I looked at her,
00:17:48.80\00:17:51.13
and I was like, I said,
00:17:51.17\00:17:52.50
"Miss Rosie,
you look different."
00:17:52.53\00:17:54.50
She was smiling, she
had this grin on her face,
00:17:54.54\00:17:57.77
and happy, and
talking, and engaging,
00:17:57.81\00:18:00.54
and you have to know that
00:18:00.58\00:18:02.51
that's got everything to
do with the health aspect
00:18:02.54\00:18:05.58
of this thing.
00:18:05.61\00:18:06.95
Something's
happening in her heart,
00:18:06.98\00:18:08.58
in her mind.
00:18:08.62\00:18:09.95
But surely you know by
now, and I know you know this,
00:18:09.98\00:18:13.12
the most people
coming here are depressed.
00:18:13.15\00:18:16.89
And, you know,
I was one of them.
00:18:16.93\00:18:19.03
I was depressed when I got here.
00:18:19.06\00:18:21.03
But who wouldn't be
with all the sicknesses,
00:18:21.06\00:18:23.73
I don't know if I'm
dying or what's going to go on.
00:18:23.77\00:18:27.97
And a lot of these people here
are at the end of their rope.
00:18:28.00\00:18:32.34
They don't know if
they're going to die
00:18:32.37\00:18:33.81
of a heart attack or
stroke, they don't know
00:18:33.84\00:18:36.34
if they ever
going to be well again.
00:18:36.38\00:18:38.38
And then they come here
00:18:38.41\00:18:40.18
and all of a
sudden they find hope
00:18:40.22\00:18:42.48
through our
pastor, through our doctor,
00:18:42.52\00:18:45.82
our nurses, the
food, the cooking classes,
00:18:45.85\00:18:49.39
all these
contribute to the whole
00:18:49.42\00:18:53.06
and help make person or
all persons whole again.
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Sure. Sure. Well, you know,
I talked to her this morning,
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she was spending nearly
a thousand dollars a month
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on medicine for 32 years.
00:19:05.64\00:19:09.38
She got type 2
diabetes when she was pregnant.
00:19:09.41\00:19:12.25
The doctor said, "You're done.
00:19:12.28\00:19:13.88
It's going to be for
the rest of your life."
00:19:13.92\00:19:16.08
That is a lot of
money over a lot of years.
00:19:16.12\00:19:19.15
So, friends, had she
caught this years ago,
00:19:19.19\00:19:23.39
she could have saved $360,000,
00:19:23.43\00:19:29.63
and like you said,
that's a house in California.
00:19:29.66\00:19:31.67
That's a house in
California. Or three in Texas.
00:19:31.70\00:19:34.07
Yeah, unless you're in Austin.
00:19:34.10\00:19:38.64
And so they feel
when they get here,
00:19:38.67\00:19:40.41
they're like,
"Well, maybe it'll work,
00:19:40.44\00:19:41.78
maybe it won't."
00:19:41.81\00:19:43.14
And, you know,
they are depressed.
00:19:43.18\00:19:44.51
Well, yeah.
00:19:44.55\00:19:47.02
You know, part of her happiness,
00:19:47.05\00:19:48.92
you know...
00:19:48.95\00:19:50.29
She was telling me
this morning, she says,
00:19:50.32\00:19:51.65
"I'm off all but
just a few minor meds."
00:19:51.69\00:19:54.92
So she says, "I've got nearly
a thousand dollars a month
00:19:54.96\00:19:57.83
to spend on what we
want to, so this is happy...
00:19:57.86\00:20:01.13
I need a
thousand dollars a month."
00:20:01.16\00:20:03.63
But yeah, part of the joy
is being free from that burden
00:20:03.67\00:20:08.14
of medicines, and
drugs, and things like that.
00:20:08.17\00:20:12.51
You know, you bring to mind,
00:20:12.54\00:20:14.41
I remember, about
the third of the way
00:20:14.44\00:20:16.24
or maybe it was
halfway through the program,
00:20:16.28\00:20:18.51
when I came here, I
was doing some figuring.
00:20:18.55\00:20:21.02
I said to my
wife, I said, "Honey,
00:20:21.05\00:20:23.18
do you realize
by becoming vegan,
00:20:23.22\00:20:25.95
and stopping alcohol,
00:20:25.99\00:20:28.36
and the other
things we're doing,
00:20:28.39\00:20:29.86
eating out so often,
00:20:29.89\00:20:31.33
we're going to save
about $2,500 dollars a month."
00:20:31.36\00:20:35.56
And I realized,
when you look back,
00:20:35.60\00:20:37.83
people who drink alcohol,
easily spend a $1,000 a month,
00:20:37.87\00:20:42.50
and with dinners out
at a $100, $200 a dinner,
00:20:42.54\00:20:46.54
you know, anyway that was then.
00:20:46.57\00:20:48.44
Of course, my
life is different now,
00:20:48.48\00:20:50.55
after 12 years especially.
00:20:50.58\00:20:53.11
So would you say that
00:20:53.15\00:20:58.75
we have a huge
change in this situation?
00:20:58.79\00:21:04.56
Oh, well, with Rosie,
00:21:04.59\00:21:06.29
as what I have been seeing again
00:21:06.33\00:21:08.16
for nearly a
year and a half now,
00:21:08.20\00:21:10.27
the health,
getting the health better,
00:21:10.30\00:21:13.00
she, of course, is
very spiritually aware now.
00:21:13.03\00:21:15.60
She's very excited
00:21:15.64\00:21:17.11
about her
relationship with God again.
00:21:17.14\00:21:19.37
She's actually, you
know, she was non-Adventist
00:21:19.41\00:21:21.74
but she said,
"I'm studying now."
00:21:21.78\00:21:24.18
I gave her a set of
Bible studies this morning,
00:21:24.21\00:21:26.01
she wants to continue studying
the things that we learned.
00:21:26.05\00:21:29.05
One of the things she
told me this morning was
00:21:29.08\00:21:31.62
she had no clue
00:21:31.65\00:21:32.99
that the will of
faith worked that way.
00:21:33.02\00:21:34.36
She said, "I've been
raised in church my whole life."
00:21:34.39\00:21:36.93
She goes, "I've
never seen all these things
00:21:36.96\00:21:38.56
put together that way."
00:21:38.59\00:21:39.93
And she's excited
about learning a little more.
00:21:39.96\00:21:42.43
So I gave her something
00:21:42.46\00:21:43.80
to kind of
continue her education.
00:21:43.83\00:21:46.00
Amen. We're out of time, pastor.
00:21:46.03\00:21:48.84
Thank you so
much, Damon. Oh, yeah.
00:21:48.87\00:21:50.41
And thank you, friends.
00:21:50.44\00:21:51.77
Don't go away, we have a
tip for you following this.
00:21:51.81\00:21:54.88
Welcome to NEWSTART Now.
00:22:30.48\00:22:32.18
I'm Dr. Neil Nedley,
President of Weimar Institute.
00:22:32.21\00:22:34.98
And with me today
is Dr. Eddie Ramirez,
00:22:35.02\00:22:37.72
one of our physicians,
00:22:37.75\00:22:39.09
as well as one
of our researchers,
00:22:39.12\00:22:41.39
and very active in
teaching at the college,
00:22:41.42\00:22:44.33
research methods, and
advanced research methods.
00:22:44.36\00:22:47.76
In fact, if you know any
students who want to excel
00:22:47.80\00:22:50.67
and be very successful
throughout their careers,
00:22:50.70\00:22:53.54
Weimar Institute is
the place to send them
00:22:53.57\00:22:56.14
'cause they'll learn
how to do this research
00:22:56.17\00:22:58.11
on nutrition and
lifestyle right here,
00:22:58.14\00:23:00.58
and it's by publishing
in the scientific literature
00:23:00.61\00:23:03.31
that you're able
to change the world.
00:23:03.35\00:23:05.21
And this study is exciting
00:23:05.25\00:23:07.15
'cause it just came
out a couple of days ago,
00:23:07.18\00:23:09.85
Dr. Ramirez. That's right.
00:23:09.88\00:23:11.22
So this is hot off of the press,
00:23:11.25\00:23:13.02
and this was published
in the American Journal
00:23:13.05\00:23:15.79
of Lifestyle Medicine,
00:23:15.82\00:23:17.79
the November-
December issue of 2016.
00:23:17.83\00:23:21.80
And this is a study
looking at what now?
00:23:21.83\00:23:25.27
What we are focusing here
00:23:25.30\00:23:27.90
is the heart of the
depression recovery program.
00:23:27.94\00:23:32.37
Okay.
00:23:32.41\00:23:33.74
As a physician, you
learn that a good physician
00:23:33.78\00:23:37.25
learns the causes of the problem
00:23:37.28\00:23:40.42
because if not,
you waste your time
00:23:40.45\00:23:42.72
just dealing with symptoms.
00:23:42.75\00:23:44.32
But if you're
able to put your finger
00:23:44.35\00:23:46.76
where the problem
lies, then there is hope
00:23:46.79\00:23:50.09
and that's what
this paper is all about,
00:23:50.13\00:23:52.16
about hope for the depressed
and the person with anxiety.
00:23:52.19\00:23:55.80
That's important
because depression doesn't have
00:23:55.83\00:23:58.63
the same cause
in every individual.
00:23:58.67\00:24:01.00
There are some people
that can be severely depressed
00:24:01.04\00:24:03.30
for one set of reasons
00:24:03.34\00:24:04.81
and another group of
people who can be depressed
00:24:04.84\00:24:07.38
for a whole
different group of reasons.
00:24:07.41\00:24:09.64
And so there's many factors
00:24:09.68\00:24:11.58
that can affect brain chemistry.
00:24:11.61\00:24:14.68
What are some of those factors
that can affect brain chemistry
00:24:14.72\00:24:17.65
the study looked
at? That's right.
00:24:17.69\00:24:19.82
In this study,
00:24:19.85\00:24:21.22
there are 10 hits or
causes of depression.
00:24:21.26\00:24:26.26
And from those 10,
00:24:26.29\00:24:29.46
2 you cannot
change, the rest of the 8,
00:24:29.50\00:24:32.43
they are potentially reversible.
00:24:32.47\00:24:35.14
The two that you
cannot change are the genetic
00:24:35.17\00:24:37.24
and the developmental,
the way you grew up
00:24:37.27\00:24:39.27
and the genes that you
received from your family.
00:24:39.31\00:24:41.71
Yeah, if you're
already an adult,
00:24:41.74\00:24:44.05
and of course,
00:24:44.08\00:24:45.41
we can't go back and
have you be born again,
00:24:45.45\00:24:47.32
so to speak as far
as the genetic part.
00:24:47.35\00:24:50.59
And of course,
00:24:50.62\00:24:51.95
we can't have you go
through childhood again.
00:24:51.99\00:24:54.09
And so those two
things tend to be fixed.
00:24:54.12\00:24:56.29
But everything else,
we actually can change
00:24:56.32\00:24:59.76
in the biology of the
brain and that's exciting.
00:24:59.79\00:25:04.17
What did this study
actually show as far as causes?
00:25:04.20\00:25:08.97
How many...?
00:25:09.00\00:25:10.97
I think this study showed
00:25:11.01\00:25:12.34
that depression is
not just one cause.
00:25:12.37\00:25:14.94
That's right.
00:25:14.98\00:25:16.31
In fact, you can have bad genes,
00:25:16.34\00:25:17.71
you could've been raised
in a very dysfunctional home,
00:25:17.75\00:25:20.82
but you don't
have to have depression
00:25:20.85\00:25:22.98
if you don't have other causes.
00:25:23.02\00:25:24.35
And that's the
beauty of this study that...
00:25:24.39\00:25:26.55
They are in prints
00:25:26.59\00:25:27.92
that you can
actually access for free.
00:25:27.96\00:25:29.82
When we published this,
00:25:29.86\00:25:31.26
we paid more than $3,000 dollars
00:25:31.29\00:25:33.03
to make it open,
anybody can access this paper
00:25:33.06\00:25:35.96
if you Google the
words Nedley and hypothesis.
00:25:36.00\00:25:39.83
The first hits on
your Google are this study.
00:25:39.87\00:25:43.24
And what we're showing is that
00:25:43.27\00:25:45.01
in order for you
to have depression,
00:25:45.04\00:25:46.91
you need to have four
or more of these factors
00:25:46.94\00:25:51.28
active in your life.
00:25:51.31\00:25:53.28
Okay, so four or more
00:25:53.31\00:25:55.18
and then you're
going to have depression,
00:25:55.22\00:25:56.55
and that means all of us
can succumb to depression.
00:25:56.58\00:25:59.45
If we have four
different categories of causes,
00:25:59.49\00:26:02.26
you're going to end up
with depression, or anxiety,
00:26:02.29\00:26:04.76
or some other mental illness.
00:26:04.79\00:26:07.13
And the good news is
these changes, these hits,
00:26:07.16\00:26:11.10
or risk factors can be reversed.
00:26:11.13\00:26:13.80
And if we take it
down to two or less,
00:26:13.84\00:26:16.24
then the depression
and anxiety goes away.
00:26:16.27\00:26:18.17
That's right.
00:26:18.21\00:26:19.54
And that's the
beautiful thing about this
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that the person
can use these causes
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as a motivator for
them and a goal to change
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and to improve
their mental health.
00:26:28.12\00:26:30.32
Now one of the ways
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you as a
listener can access this
00:26:31.72\00:26:33.39
or someone else
you know and love,
00:26:33.42\00:26:35.72
just look at depression
anxiety assessment test,
00:26:35.76\00:26:39.39
the DAT Test.
00:26:39.43\00:26:40.76
You can look that up,
and you can actually find out
00:26:40.80\00:26:42.86
the causes that
might be operative
00:26:42.90\00:26:44.50
in your loved one or you.
00:26:44.53\00:26:46.33
And then there can be a
little subscription there
00:26:46.37\00:26:48.60
or prescription as regards
to what you can do differently
00:26:48.64\00:26:52.51
to get rid of this
depression and anxiety.
00:26:52.54\00:26:55.14
So this produces a lot of hope.
00:26:55.18\00:26:57.08
Yes, and many
people have been helped,
00:26:57.11\00:26:59.41
more than 6000 people
around the literal globe
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have been helped
with this principles.
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You know, interestingly,
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the average
medicine for depression
00:27:07.09\00:27:08.62
that's released on the market
has less than 1000 patients
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that have taken that medicine.
00:27:11.49\00:27:13.09
This is a program
that's far more tried
00:27:13.13\00:27:15.60
and true than medication,
00:27:15.63\00:27:18.30
and it actually works
far better than medication.
00:27:18.33\00:27:21.20
And we have
published more than 20 papers
00:27:21.24\00:27:23.84
related to that topic.
00:27:23.87\00:27:25.67
If you keep
watching this program,
00:27:25.71\00:27:27.51
you will learn
more about those studies
00:27:27.54\00:27:29.54
that we have published.
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Thank you for
watching NEWSTART Now.
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I'm Dr. Neil Nedley.
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Join us again next week
for another exciting study.
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