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01:11 Hi, friends, and welcome to another edition
01:14 of NEWSTART Now. 01:15 I'm your host Ron Giannoni. 01:17 We got an amazing story for you today. 01:21 Matt Pedregon, I hope I pronounced that right, 01:26 is in our studio today. 01:28 Matt, how you are you doing, brother? 01:29 Good, how are you? I am doing great. 01:32 And we've got a lot to talk about 01:36 changes that you've been through, 01:40 and I want to get right to that. 01:42 When you got here, 01:44 tell us what medications were you on? 01:48 I was on two different types of insulin, 01:53 I was on high blood pressure medication, 01:56 kidney medication, metformin and glipizide. 02:03 Wow. 02:04 And I was giving myself four injections a day, 02:09 two in the morning, two in the evening. 02:12 Taking four pills a day, two in the morning, two... 02:15 I'm sorry, three pills a day... 02:17 Four pills a day, 02:20 four in the morning and two at night. 02:22 All right, so what was your blood pressure? 02:25 When I got here, it was like borderline, 02:30 I believe, borderline. 02:31 Up in the high 140, 150 over... 02:35 How about your blood sugars? 02:36 My blood sugars, before I got here, 02:39 they were anywhere from high 200s to low 400s. 02:44 Okay, so now you get here... 02:46 Yes. 02:47 You're on the program. 02:49 And whence the first time that you noticed 02:54 something special was happening? 03:00 Well, the very first time 03:01 I noticed something special here 03:05 was when I actually got here. 03:06 I just felt the Holy Spirit here. 03:10 Believe it or not, that's what I felt when I got here. 03:12 Oh, I believe it. 03:15 And it just really touched my heart to see... 03:21 Well, I have Kaiser, 03:22 and I have a good doctor in Kaiser, 03:24 but my doctor never prays with me. 03:27 And that was the first thing I saw in the first lectures 03:30 with the doctors, 03:32 they open with a prayer and end it with a prayer. 03:35 And... 03:36 Who's your doctor? Dr. Lukens. 03:38 Okay. Yes. 03:39 He's a good prayer. 03:41 Oh, he's awesome, he's very funny too. 03:43 Oh, yes, yes. 03:45 So that was the first time that I... 03:49 That was the very first thing that struck me here is that 03:51 God's Holy Spirit was here 03:54 and in all the employees that work here. 03:56 Amen. 03:58 And that's... Yeah. 03:59 That's huge. Yeah. 04:02 So now you're here for five or six days, 04:07 what's happening? 04:08 So the second day, 04:12 I had breakfast and the late lunch, 04:15 and I found out... 04:17 I was only going to eat twice a day 04:19 How did that go? 04:20 Well, at first, I was... 04:23 It made me a little nervous 04:24 because I'm used to eating three or more meals a day, 04:27 right. 04:28 And that didn't happen so I was like, 04:31 "Okay, well, I'm here to have an open mind and open heart, 04:34 and I'm going to do whatever is asked of me to do, 04:38 and mainly to glorify God." 04:40 So I know this program is here because of God so... 04:45 And I know He has a special diet 04:47 that He has already created for us, 04:49 and it's going back to that original diet 04:51 that He has created so I'm going to do 04:53 whatever it takes to follow that. 04:56 So you were open. So I was open to that. 04:58 And then they said, 04:59 "You're going to fast now for three days." 05:01 Oh, no! So... 05:04 "Lay the load with the bomb on. You're there now." 05:06 So yeah, so we made it through the fast. 05:11 And then I checked my sugars, 05:13 and, of course, I didn't have no food in me 05:14 but they were like, 05:16 the numbers were like I've never seen before. 05:18 They were 90, under 100, you know, low 100s. 05:23 Still not where I wanted them, but I was like, wow. 05:27 And even though I was fasting, I was feeling good 05:30 because before with all that medication, 05:32 I was always feeling tired... 05:33 Were you fasting on medication? 05:35 No. 05:37 Dr. Lukens came in the second day... 05:38 He took you off all. 05:40 Right before the fast 'cause he asked me, 05:41 "Are you going to fast?" 05:42 And I said, 05:44 "Well, do you recommend me fasting?" 05:45 He said, "Yes." I said, "Okay." 05:47 And then I said, "Do you I take my medication?" 05:49 No. 05:51 He's like, "I don't care if you do or don't" 05:53 So I took it as no and I stopped my meds. 05:55 Right. So I haven't taken any since. 05:57 And how are your blood sugars now? 05:59 Well, now they're not exactly where I want them. 06:03 They are still like low 100s, 06:07 but they're a lot better 06:10 than when I was on all that diabetes medication. 06:13 They're way better, and I feel it. 06:15 So you're better off without the medication, 06:18 you're not quite where you are, but you're in the low 100s. 06:20 Yes, that's with no medication. Excellent. 06:23 How about your blood pressure? 06:24 Oh, wow, it's been like 99/60. 06:30 I think, this morning it was 90/64 06:33 something like that. 06:34 Are you on medication for blood pressures? 06:36 No, no. I was. You was? 06:39 I were. I was. Yeah, you were. You was. 06:42 Little play on words. Yes. 06:44 But yeah, it's just amazing how this works. 06:49 What about the insulin now? 06:51 Weren't you shooting insulin in your gut? 06:53 Two different types of insulin. 06:55 Four or five times a day? 06:57 Four times a day, 06:59 twice in the morning, twice at night before bed. 07:02 And I haven't taken any insulin 07:03 since I've been here, and my sugars are 07:07 way better than when I was using the insulin 07:11 which is supposed to control my sugars. 07:13 Sure. Yeah. 07:14 I know. So. 07:16 And it's unbelievable. 07:17 What else? Tell me more, tell me more? 07:18 I've lost like 13.5 pounds, 07:22 I've lost 2 inches from my midsection, 07:25 I've lost an inch from my hips, 07:27 and I've gained an inch on my arms. 07:29 Whoa! 07:30 'Cause I've been doing a little extra workout on the side. 07:32 Little push-ups and stuff like that. 07:34 Just because I used to feel so weak 07:36 before I came here. 07:37 I always felt so weak, so lethargic, never had... 07:41 Were you kind of, like, buff kind of guy? 07:43 No, used to be. 07:45 No, but... 07:46 Yeah, so I just noticed those kinds of changes, 07:51 and the biggest change... 07:53 The biggest thing here that I... 07:59 The biggest component to all of this is God. 08:02 The biggest piece of the whole program is God. 08:07 Like how can you not 08:12 fall in love with God all over again 08:13 being here in this program. 08:15 That's what happened to me, honestly so... 08:18 That and along with the health plan, 08:23 I mean, it all goes hand in hand. 08:25 It has to go together, 08:30 you know, 'cause that's God's plan for us. 08:33 And... 08:34 How'd you like the food? 08:36 The food was, surprisingly good. 08:39 All right. 08:40 Yeah, the food is good, and I was so surprised how... 08:45 You know, just the variety of food 08:48 and how tasty it was, especially, the cook Michelle. 08:53 She just makes, whips it up so quickly, 08:55 she makes it taste so good... 08:57 She is the best. 08:58 All the way from Mexican food to... 09:01 Whatever. Chinese, Mexican. 09:04 And it was awesome. The breakfasts were good. 09:07 Now I understand that 09:08 something very, very special happened last Sabbath. 09:13 Yeah, something very special happened. 09:15 Excuse me. What was it? 09:18 So my family came to visit me 09:25 because I wanted to rededicate myself to Jesus 09:29 and get re-baptized and that's what I did. 09:32 And... 09:33 And who baptized you? 09:36 Damon... Sneed. 09:38 Pastor Sneed baptized me and I asked him, I told him, 09:41 you know, like, 09:43 I think like the third day here I realized like, 09:46 you know, God has convicted me to change my lifestyle, really. 09:51 And I got baptized once in 2012 09:55 and I thought that's all I had to do 09:58 was just get baptized 09:59 and God was going to do the rest, 10:01 and you just go to church on Sabbath 10:03 and, you know, you participate 10:05 as much as you can and I had forgotten that, 10:10 you know, God wants us to worship Him, and pray, 10:14 and be active in our faith, in our journey, 10:19 in our spiritual journey with Him. 10:21 Like be really active and I said, 10:24 "How can I do that 10:25 if I don't even follow His original diet?" 10:29 He has plan for us, you know, 10:31 and that's what he wants, you know. 10:32 So I made that decision to get re-baptized 10:36 and that was the biggest... Excellent. 10:37 'Cause I feel like I can't do this without... 10:40 We can't do this. We can't do anything alone. 10:43 We need God in everything that we do 10:45 and I know, with Him, this is possible. 10:48 This is going to work. 10:49 That's the best prose I've ever heard. 10:52 That was beautiful, thank you so much. 10:54 Thank you. And thank you for your time. 10:56 I know that you're going home tonight or in the morning. 10:59 In the morning. Yeah. 11:00 Yeah. Well, thank you, brother. 11:02 Thank you. And God bless you. 11:03 Thank you for everything that you did too 11:05 'cause when I spoke to you on the phone, 11:08 you just made my day that day, you didn't even know, 11:10 I was so happy when I talked to you. 11:12 And you said, "Just come, just come, you're covered so." 11:16 All right, brother. 11:17 Thank you. You're welcome. 11:19 And, friends, don't go away because Dr. Lukens is up next. 11:27 Every year in America, 11:29 there are over one million deaths 11:30 because of type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 11:33 This includes heart attacks and strokes. 11:35 That's six and a half 747s crashing every day. 11:39 What's even more surprising is that the fix is easy. 11:42 It's your lifestyle. 11:44 Wouldn't it be nice 11:45 if you could actually add quality years to your life 11:47 rather than dying one organ at a time? 11:50 Obesity and diabetes 11:51 are the cause of over million deaths per year. 11:54 Most diseases are reversible 11:56 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases, 11:59 especially type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 12:03 Seriously now, they can be reversed 12:05 and the quality of your life can be renewed. 12:09 Call NEWSTART today at 1-800-525-9192. 12:15 You will see dramatic changes 12:16 in the first few days of our program 12:18 and you'll be on the road to a better 12:20 more robust quality of life. 12:22 The NEWSTART programs are simple and effective. 12:27 Welcome back, friends. 12:29 In our studio, Dr. Rich Lukens with the grip. 12:33 Man, I got the memo. Yeah! 12:35 We're twins today. Well, look at this. 12:38 You know, we used to wear ties but today, it's so hot. 12:41 It is too hot Yeah. It's too hot. 12:43 So what are we talking about? Nice shirt. 12:49 We're talking about Matt. Yup. 12:51 And Matt is such a wonderful guy. 12:55 I really enjoy the energy with him. 12:58 I felt better after the interview. 13:00 Exactly. 13:02 You know, some of these are drained. 13:03 You can't imagine how excited I was when I saw his results. 13:07 Awesome. 13:09 His triglycerides went from 430, 13:12 which means he's got the metabolic syndrome, 13:16 with infiltration into his liver with fat 13:19 and all of the stuff around, 13:21 and his blood sugars were just way out of control. 13:25 Well, you didn't tell me what they went to, 13:27 the triglycerides. 13:28 Oh, okay. From 430 to what? 13:31 180. No! 13:32 That's almost normal. 13:34 Wow. 13:35 And then his blood sugars were always... 13:39 In the morning, when they should be the lowest, 13:41 they were in the high 200s 13:43 and they would be in the 400s too 13:45 depending on what he'd eaten the night before. 13:48 And then at night, you know, after he'd eaten and so forth, 13:52 he said he'd just come home just dragging, 13:55 he'd eat, and then he'd just go to bed. 13:57 He just... And you know what? 13:58 His wife told me, it was something interesting, 14:01 she said, "You know, he's a lot softer than he was." 14:05 Yeah. 14:06 She was just thrilled, you know. 14:08 Oh, she was just... 14:09 'Cause she just said, 14:10 "You know, why don't you see the doctor?" 14:12 But anyway, he didn't know what it was, 14:14 and his blood sugars were, 14:17 you know, it was over 500 when they diagnosed him. 14:20 Wow. 14:21 In fact, did he tell you that one time 14:23 they wouldn't even let him go home from work? 14:25 They called the ambulance. That's right. 14:27 Yeah, so anyway... 14:29 So that was really something. 14:31 But at the last, this is the kicker. 14:36 He was on 360 units of insulin. 14:40 And a normal guy, you know, in a normal adult, 14:43 maybe it's 40 to 60, 14:46 he was on six times the normal amount. 14:49 I said, "What does your doctor says?" 14:50 He said, "No, no. He said, "Go to the pharmacist" 14:53 and he didn't have time. 14:55 He says, "Go to the pharmacist and the pharmacist 14:58 will tell you how to do this, you know." 14:59 Oh, man. 15:01 I tell you, medical care is just crazy right now. 15:03 It really is, except here. Yeah. 15:06 Well, then when they leave, 15:07 they shouldn't need a lot of medical care. 15:09 They shouldn't. That's true. Yeah. 15:11 So what they've been spending on medical care 15:13 will take care of the cost of the program. 15:16 Easy. 15:18 So I'm going to stay in touch with Matt, 15:21 I promised him I would. Yeah. 15:23 And I know you will as well. Mm-hmm. 15:25 And so he can't wait to get home 15:28 to share this with everybody. 15:30 He was so excited during our interview today, 15:33 you know, he's just bubbling, he's all rosy and... 15:36 Yeah. I'm happy for him. 15:38 But let's talk about reversing diabetes, 15:41 just for a moment, if we can. 15:44 You know, there are a lot of health professionals 15:48 that are now getting on board 15:49 with what we've been doing here for almost 40 years. 15:53 And some of them are, who? 15:55 Dr. Esselstyn for sure, 15:58 Dr. Neal Barnard, who else? 16:03 World famous doctors. 16:04 Well, John McDougal. 16:08 John McDougal. 16:09 There's a guy in Virginia, and I give that handout 16:14 because I don't want the people to think 16:16 that we're just some yahoos in the pine trees. 16:21 But... 16:22 And they realized that, but what bothers me 16:25 is a huge pushback from the medical people. 16:30 Yeah, I don't know what that's all about. 16:32 Maybe they just don't understand. 16:34 I know that if I'm out in the world out there 16:37 and I break a leg, 16:39 I want to go see a doctor real quick. 16:40 Yeah. 16:41 But for what we're talking about here... 16:43 But the thing is that 16:45 they are told not to believe it. 16:47 And then when you read the different things 16:49 and the pharmaceutical guys come around, 16:52 they reinforce the fact 16:54 that their blood sugars have to be normal. 16:57 And if they're not normal 16:59 then they're going to suffer all kinds of stuff 17:01 and they won't do well, 17:03 but the opposite is really the truth. 17:06 Let it run a little bit higher, 17:07 especially, if you're on insulin, 17:10 and you can shorten your life by 20% 17:13 by forcing it down with, especially, insulin 17:16 and the other medication to do that. 17:19 Now have you ever seen a change like Matt's 17:22 where that insulin is dropped away 17:25 and his numbers are dropped? 17:27 I mean, it's almost like... 17:29 It's almost unbelievable. 17:30 Well, you know what it was? What was it? 17:32 He was doing... 17:33 Even in the heat, 17:35 they get up really early in the morning, 17:36 a group of them, and they would do... 17:38 During the day, they would do 10 to 15 miles of walking. 17:43 Yeah, and... But, I mean, he averaged 10. 17:45 He wasn't able to do that when he first came. 17:47 So over the whole period of time, 17:50 but coming back to this other... 17:53 Folks, you need to look up 17:55 on Facebook, Neal Barnard. 18:01 Right. 18:02 And his Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, 18:07 you've got to see it. 18:08 Facebook. 18:10 It's about a 20 minute thing, 18:12 and he said his father was a physician 18:15 and all he could do was manage it 18:16 as his patients went downhill. 18:19 And then when they came up with this, he said, 18:22 "There's no Type 2 that shouldn't be able to get over." 18:27 I want to thank you, we're out of time, 18:29 God bless you. 18:30 It's always my pleasure. Friends, don't go away. 18:33 Dr. Nedley is up next. 18:36 When we look at the health status of Americans today, 18:39 it's alarming to see that 60% are either overweight or obese. 18:49 In addition, diseases such as type 2 diabetes, 18:52 cancer, and heart disorders are the leading cause 18:54 of so many complications and deaths every year. 19:02 Could it have something to do with what we eat? 19:05 After all, every one in four Americans 19:07 visits a fast food restaurant daily, 19:09 and with such easy access to quick-fix foods, 19:13 we tend to forget the poor health value 19:15 those foods actually offer. 19:18 Maybe it's the sedentary lifestyle and lack of exercise 19:21 that we've become so accustomed to as a media-dependant world. 19:25 Whatever the cause of these diseases, 19:27 a solution has arrived. 19:31 The NEWSTART Lifestyle Center offers an enriching program 19:35 where patients can get a healing of mind, 19:37 body, and soul. 19:38 Located in the outskirts of Sacramento, 19:41 the NEWSTART center is situated on the beautiful campus 19:44 of Weimar Centre of Health and Education 19:47 with scenic walking and hiking trails all around. 19:51 With a "whole plant foods eating whole" motto, 19:54 the NEWSTART center promotes a healthy plant-based diet 19:57 with an emphasis on natural foods. 20:00 The NEWSTART staff are made up 20:01 of California Board Certified 20:03 nurses, doctors, dietitians, and therapists 20:07 who work together to assist each patient personally. 20:11 The staff are dedicated to each patient's success 20:13 in the program and are always there 20:15 to guide, advise, and encourage. 20:18 In addition to a healthy lifestyle, 20:20 NEWSTART also promotes a healthy exercise routine. 20:23 You're both in sequence, that's good, all right. 20:26 As part of the balance program, there is much opportunity 20:29 to get in the fair share of physical activity 20:32 from utilizing our fitness center 20:34 to taking a stroll 20:35 around the peaceful grounds of Weimar. 20:38 It's amazing what a new start can do for you. 20:42 Welcome to NEWSTART Now. 20:44 I'm Dr. Neil Nedley, 20:45 and with me today is Dr. Eddie Ramirez. 20:48 And there have been some exciting things happening 20:51 at the NEWSTART program, 20:52 and scientific journals are very interested 20:55 in the changes that take place in the program 20:59 just coming here for 18 days, not only during the program 21:03 but what happens after the program. 21:05 And this is kind of a unique study 21:08 that was published in Obesity Reviews 21:12 in April 2016 by Dr. Ramirez, and myself, 21:16 and other members of the NEWSTART team. 21:20 And we also often have students involved here 21:23 at Weimar Institute in our studies 21:24 and that's one of the exciting things about 21:26 being a college student here at Weimar 21:28 as we get to see all of these changes 21:30 and college students get to publish 21:32 in the scientific literature. 21:34 Well, Dr. Ramirez, today we're going 21:36 to be centering in on a major problem 21:39 in this country 21:41 and that is of childhood obesity. 21:44 Now a lot of people think NEWSTART is just for adults, 21:49 but this was a study done on 11 children 21:54 who went through the NEWSTART program, 21:56 and they went through due to having 21:59 pretty significant obesity levels, 22:01 even levels of morbid obesity in childhood. 22:04 I don't know if you've seen these people 22:05 but if you go to Walmart 22:07 or if you go to any mall in America, 22:09 you're going to see kids that are very overweight. 22:13 And it sets them up for so many problems 22:16 by the time they're 25 or 30 even. 22:20 Their risk of death from emboli 22:22 and all sorts of things goes up. 22:24 And so I'm very interested 22:25 about these 11 patients and obviously, 22:27 Obesity Reviews was very interested 22:29 as well as they accepted the study for publication. 22:32 What did we find out about these 11 patients? 22:34 So tell us about them first 22:37 before they came in to the program? 22:38 That's right. 22:40 Well, these were a small group of patients 22:43 that have gone through the NEWSTART program. 22:45 And as you said so, 22:46 it's because they had some significant health problems 22:50 and we were showing here that when they came to the program, 22:54 they were able to decrease their body mass index, 22:58 and also their overall weight, and also other markers. 23:02 We were also checking things 23:04 like cholesterols and triglycerides. 23:07 And this type of markers also improve 23:10 as they improve also their weight. 23:13 And on average, the loss was of seven pounds 23:18 which may not sound, like, humungous 23:20 but it's actually very good. 23:22 We don't want that type of very, very dramatic weight loss 23:26 because that person will gain it again. 23:29 But in this way, if you can keep up that change, 23:32 you will keep losing weight and feeling better. 23:36 And this is something that I personally have seen 23:38 on the medical consultation. 23:41 I have gotten mothers 23:42 that bring their child to me and say, 23:45 "Doctor, I think my son has parasites. 23:48 Look how thin he is." 23:50 I checked him and he is perfectly fine, 23:53 he has normal weight 23:54 and that weight corresponds to the normal height. 23:59 Why is the mother concerned? 24:01 Because most of the other children 24:03 that he plays with are... 24:05 They don't have a normal weight, 24:07 and compared to them he looks too thin. 24:10 So we actually are changing the definition 24:12 of what's normal to call it abnormal 24:15 and what is not normal to call it normal, 24:17 and that's something that is worrisome. 24:20 Okay, so seven pounds in 18 days, 24:23 so that's a pound about 24:25 every two to three days that they lost. 24:29 And if they continue on this program at home, 24:33 our research shows they will continue 24:35 to lose weight at about that same pace. 24:38 And so, you know, 24:40 if you're losing a couple of pounds a week, 24:42 which is a good healthy thing to do. 24:45 You know, in a year's time, 24:47 you're down well over a 100 pounds. 24:49 And that's the idea. 24:50 The idea is not just a temporary improvement 24:53 but we want the person to improve permanently, 24:57 to change the diet permanently. 24:59 That's why we're going to teach you 25:00 how to cook at home, 25:02 we're going to give you plenty of health lectures 25:04 so you can understand why we're proposing the changes 25:07 that we are proposing. 25:09 And not only that, some of... 25:12 This number is the average, which means, 25:14 some actually went a little bit more, 25:16 some went actually a little bit less, 25:18 but the idea is for you to keep going. 25:22 And another paper that we published, 25:24 we showed that once you've reached your normal weight, 25:26 you'll no longer continue losing that weight 25:29 and you will maintain that healthy weight. 25:31 That's exciting. 25:33 Thanks for being here, Dr. Ramirez. 25:34 And for NEWSTART Now, I'm Dr. Neal Nedley. 25:37 Join us again next week. 25:45 Today, we'll be teaching you 25:46 how to make an all fruit smoothie. 25:48 And this recipe calls 25:50 for one can of your coconut milk 25:52 that you can get at your grocery store. 25:55 Two to four frozen bananas, depending on size, 25:58 about four cups. 26:00 Two cups of your frozen strawberries 26:03 and one teaspoon of your vanilla extract. 26:05 And the vanilla extract that we're gonna be using 26:07 is alcohol-free because this is a smoothie 26:09 that we're not gonna cook, obviously, 26:11 and you won't burn off the alcohol in vanilla 26:13 that you'd typically get. 26:15 But you can find this at a health food store, 26:17 some grocery stores carry that as well. 26:19 Okay, so it's so simple. 26:20 The materials that you'll need is a high speed blender 26:24 and then just a measuring cup. 26:26 Okay, so I'm gonna go ahead and add all these ingredients 26:29 to my blender. 26:38 Coconut milk, incidentally, is really healthy. 26:41 It has caprylic acid and lauric acid, 26:44 and what you really need to know about that 26:46 is that it's really good for your immune system. 26:49 I'm gonna add my frozen strawberries here. 26:53 And that's the other thing, you could use just fresh 26:55 but you'd want to get kind of a ice consistency 26:59 so you'd want to add some fresh ice to this. 27:03 Okay, one teaspoon of my vanilla extract. 27:06 And I'm gonna go ahead and just process this on high 27:08 until everything is nice and creamy. 27:20 And there you have it, 27:22 your all fruit smoothie with some coconut milk. 27:25 I'm gonna show you what I would do. 27:26 I would put this is in parfait glass 27:28 or any kind of glass, 27:31 and then I would add some beautiful granola 27:33 that you made and just top that off. 27:37 And you can get our recipe on the website, 27:39 and then just put any kind of fruit in there. 27:41 I'm just gonna show you what I would do. 27:43 Put some strawberry in there, 27:44 you could add some fresh blueberries, 27:46 even some bananas would be delicious. 27:47 And this is a gorgeous breakfast 27:49 and now you got... 27:51 You could have this for dessert. 27:52 So you could do the same thing and serve it to your family. 27:55 Well, friends, that's it for today. 27:57 But join us next week for another episode. 28:00 In the meantime, pick up the phone 28:02 and give us a call at 800-525-9192. 28:08 Mention the NEWSTART Now program 28:11 and receive the NEWSTART Special. |
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