Hi, friends.
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And welcome to another
edition of NEWSTART Now.
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I'm your host Ron Giannoni.
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In our studio with
me is Anthony Celiason,
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all the way from Alaska.
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Let's take a look at
when Anthony first arrived.
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Stage five, kidney failure.
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I'm here so I don't have
to get tubes put in my chest
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and, you know, I have my blood,
you know, and kidneys put in.
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I'm trying to save my
life, trying to save everything.
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I was here before,
I went up to Alaska...
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lot of stuff didn't work out.
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I ended up gaining weight,
I ended up getting 410 pounds
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before I came
down here, almost died,
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and I'm now down to
about 4% of my kidneys.
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Got down here and I'm
down to 320 pounds right now,
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I've lost 50 pounds down here.
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I want to try to lose 50
more pounds before I leave here.
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Get little bit more
religion, closer to God
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and I want to have good friends,
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I mean, that's
what you make of it.
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Always going to
have good friends.
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Hi, friends, and welcome back.
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Anthony. Help
me welcome Anthony.
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How are you doing?
I'm doing good, man.
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The question is,
how are you doing?
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Couple of 100% better.
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Couple of 100%.
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Been feeling way
better than when I came here.
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You know, I was really concerned
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when you first got here.
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I know you remember
being here and all that,
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but you're in a bad shape.
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And I know 'cause we've talked
in the last couple months.
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The first thing I like to
talk about though is weight,
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how much weight have you lost?
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When I left
Alaska, I was 410 pounds.
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I'm right at 300
pounds right now.
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So you've lost 110 pounds.
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Well, with the
water weight and fat,
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I've lost a 110.
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Wow! That's a whole person.
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That's one of
those little nurses.
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I lost it somewhere,
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I didn't lose
it, I gave it away.
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You gave it away.
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It's a freebie, it's a
freebie. It's a freebie.
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Michelle says, "Oh,
no, when you're loosing,
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you'll find it again."
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I didn't lose it, it's gone.
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So aside from the weight,
any other things to report?
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Kidneys have come up a 125%.
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They went from
4% to 10% already.
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Wow!
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All the stuff that
was wrong with my kidneys
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weren't filtering it
out are almost are doing
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very, very well right
now, my body isn't so poisoned.
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First I got here, I
could walk couple of 100 feet,
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now I'm walking
about a 1.5 mile at a time
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without stopping.
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How much you walk in a day?
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Three to five miles.
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Awesome, man.
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And I'm eating
better and feeling better.
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So I heard through the Grapevine
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that you're a chef.
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I cook sometimes.
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Well, our NEWSTART director says
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you fixed him some good chow.
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Well, he's a good person
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and I had to make
sure he's taken care of.
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Where did you learn to cook?
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My mom and dad, I worked
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in a few
restaurants and stuff like that.
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My stepdad has a
restaurant up there in Alaska,
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and my brother is
about to open one and so on.
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That figures.
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So you had a lot of
experience. Somewhat.
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Yeah, somewhat,
you're being humble.
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But nonetheless how
about your other numbers?
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Your blood pressure...
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Blood pressure went
from stroke stage down.
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It's doing about 110
over 60 right now so...
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On medication?
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They cut my medication
almost all the way off.
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I'm on few pills,
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I'm on lot of my
pills for my kidneys
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because my kidney function
still isn't all the way up,
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but everything else has been...
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But your blood
pressure is 110 over 60?
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Yup. That's at
109 or 110 at my...
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I'm completely off insulin to...
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my insulin,
everything like that.
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Blood sugar is
running about 85, 86.
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Wow!
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I mean, I'm doing
pretty good, you know.
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I mean, I'm feeing
good. I'm going to come back.
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I want to come back for a
few more, few more of these
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and I want to lose
another 100 pounds,
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at least, I want
to get down to 200.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Then bring my kidneys up,
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and then I don't
have to go in for dialysis
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and get chopped open, and
all that kind of bad stuff,
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I want to live a
good life, you know?
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Yeah.
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You know, one of your
guests with you Emanuel,
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we interviewed him earlier
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and they want to
put a shot on his arm.
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We said don't let them
do it 'cause once you do it.
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Yeah, they're talking
tubes here to start off with
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and then in my arm permanent.
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I said no. Good.
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You know, I said I'd
rather come down here,
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then actually,
my doctor advised me
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not to come down here,
but I told him, I said,
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"You know, I
want to try it once."
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Good. Excellent choice.
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So Tuesday, I get to
go see my kidney doctor
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and go show him
what's going on...
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Oh, it's going to blow his mind.
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Yeah, he should be pretty...
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I think he's going
to be pretty impressed.
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But I understand that
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Dr. Gallant's
been in touch with him.
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Yes, yes.
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Yeah, that's
good that the doctors
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are working together.
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Even though he's
against his better judgment,
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I think you made a good call.
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It was a right call obvious.
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Well, I mean, I don't
think my body can take...
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Well, at the time we
were taking too much more,
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you know, with
operations you're talking about
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and all this other
stuff, I don't know.
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I didn't want to chance
down on operating table,
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so I said, "Why
not, just come down here
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and just try for, you
know, 18 days what's big,
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you know, what can that hurt."
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It's an 18 days I was out...
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Within a week I
was out running around.
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I had a lot more energy,
everything was, you know...
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So what's your
favorite part of the program?
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Spa.
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The delighted spa.
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Who is your therapist?
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Phillip.
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Very good man with the count.
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Isn't he good?
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He is very good.
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He's very, very talented.
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I know. Very good man.
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Good.
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And he's taking care of you...
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Well, I think what
it is I get relaxed.
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I finally get to relax.
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And I've got a lot of
problems with my back,
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so he works with
lot of the problems
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so I don't have to take
my pain medication anymore.
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I'm off of my pain medication.
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You're off all pain meds?
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Right now I am.
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Wow.
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I know they told me
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that it's bad for
my kidneys, so I'm...
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I was on quite a
few vicodin a day
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soma for my muscles.
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My muscles cramp up, intense up,
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so I'm pretty much
off those two so it's...
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So you're a walking miracle.
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Pretty much. I've
stopped all that and...
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I don't know, I'm just trying
to get everything together
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and just get it done.
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You know, to live life,
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you know, live as
best as you can so...
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Now you're flying out
tomorrow morning or...
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Ten o'clock tomorrow.
Go back up so I can...
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I got to go up
and see my doctors,
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you know, they want to see me,
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they want to see I'm doing,
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they're going to do me
the 200-point turn and,
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you know, look
me all the way over.
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I got to get my eyes done,
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so I think I
need reading glasses.
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So when are you
coming back then?
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I'm going to try to
be back in two weeks.
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Two weeks. Okay.
For the next session.
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Good.
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And then by
that time, hopefully,
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I'll lose few more pounds and...
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Yeah, you will.
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Back in here and see
everybody with same idea.
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Oh, we run out of
time, but I want to thank you
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and congratulate
you for job well done.
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Thank you, sir.
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And thank you, friends.
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Don't go away Dr.
Gallant is up next.
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Every year in America,
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there are over
one million deaths
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because of Type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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This includes heart
attacks and strokes.
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That's 6.5, 747s
crashing every day.
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What's even more surprising
is that the fix is easy.
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It's your lifestyle.
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Wouldn't it be nice
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if you could actually add
quality years to your life
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rather than dying
one organ at a time?
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Obesity and diabetes
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are the cause of over
million deaths per year.
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Most diseases are reversible
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because most diseases
are lifestyle diseases,
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especially Type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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Seriously now,
they can be reversed
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and the quality of
your life can be renewed.
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Call NEWSTART
today at 1-800-525-9192.
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You will see dramatic changes
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in the first few
days of our program
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and you'll be on the road
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to a better more
robust quality of life.
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The NEWSTART programs
are simple and effective.
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Welcome back,
friends, Dr. Roger Gallant.
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Good to see you, Ron.
It's always good to see you.
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Hey, I like your
shirt. You too, brother.
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Thanks. That's good.
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You know, how much
there is to talk about...
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I could talk
about Tony all day long.
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It's true.
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You know, it almost
feels like one of the staff.
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This is his
third session with us.
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Third session.
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And you've been his
doctor all along, right?
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That's right.
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So when he first came
here, he was pretty bad.
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Yes, he was. He was.
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Especially when he came back,
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he was really
sick and, you know...
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Well, can I stop
you... Absolutely.
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He did okay when he
was here in January.
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Yes.
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And then he went home
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and he kind of
backslid shall we say.
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He did okay for a
while. Right, right.
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Before that happened. Yes.
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And when that
happened, when he backslid,
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his disease just took over.
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It came back with a vengeance.
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With a vengeance.
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And so when I saw
him the second time,
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I was like, "Wow,
what happened to you, man?"
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He really looked
bad. Yeah, he did.
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I thought he's
going to die on us.
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Well, you know, before he
came, he was in the hospital.
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And his sister put me in
touch with his nephrologist,
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his kidney doctor.
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And we talked, and his
kidney doctor remembered
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how well he had done
after he came the first time.
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And that was the only reason
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he was willing to
discharge him from the hospital
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and allow him to come to see us
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it was because he
knew how well he had done
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because they were getting
ready to put him on dialysis.
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Wow!
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So he was a very
sick man, very sick man.
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And, you know, I praise
God for how well he has done.
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I praise God
that the nephrologist
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was able to see the light.
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Because a lot of these
docs don't know about lifestyle.
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God bless you, God is watching,
but nonetheless they don't know
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and so this guy had to trust
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that coming back
would do him some good.
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Not only did it do good,
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he came back, he
stayed for two months.
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Yeah.
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He was here for 11
days in between sessions,
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he came for a third session,
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and that's why he
lost, what, almost 70 pounds?
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He lost a total of 68.4 pounds
over the last two sessions.
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And in our last
session this month,
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he lost 30 pounds.
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Ain't that wonderful? Yeah.
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In 18 days. Eighteen days.
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Thirty pounds.
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When he came his
legs were swollen,
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he had edema, he
could hardly walk.
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And he has improved a lot
now, he is able to walk better,
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his legs, the
swelling is all gone.
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He was having a lot
of pain in his legs,
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that went away as well.
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You know, he has
just done so much better
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and now that he's
going home, I've charged him,
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I've encouraged him to
really stay strong on the plan
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because when you slip,
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things start to
regress very rapidly,
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and that's not good.
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Especially for him
because he's such a sick man,
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you know, he can't
afford to have another case
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of having to go in the hospital
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and have, you know, they'll put
him on dialysis for sure then.
00:14:12.25\00:14:16.52
And when that
happens, don't they put a...
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They put a shunt
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or they put a
line into your chest.
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And it's not good.
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We had a rabbi here a
couple of months ago, and...
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Yeah, he would sit
in the chair for hours
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as they're cleaning
his blood and his system
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and oh, my word, I just
shudder the thought of that.
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Yeah, it's not good.
00:14:38.67\00:14:40.61
And, you know, the
amazing thing is that
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Anthony by making some
simple lifestyle changes,
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his body still is
responding which is a blessing.
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So I told him,
"You need to stay strong
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and stay on this
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because if you keep regressing,
there's going to come a time
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when your body
won't respond anymore."
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I believe, I
mean, well, God knows
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He has a plan for all of us,
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but He has a plan for Anthony,
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and I don't know what that is
00:15:12.91\00:15:15.18
but I believe that
he's going to get well,
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he's going to do good,
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he'll be back to see us again
perhaps for another session,
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I know he wants to,
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and he'd like to
bring his brother as well.
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Which would be great
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because he has a
brother who is sick,
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a little older than him,
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and sick, maybe
almost as sick as he is.
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And I believe by God's grace
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that we could make a difference,
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I believe that we could
improve his health as well,
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but he's got to come,
got to come and be willing.
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You know, one of the
things Tony shared with us
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is he's going back to Alaska,
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he's going to help
his brother build the menu
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which is a takeout
type of restaurant,
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and they're going to add
vegetarian and vegan foods.
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Nice, nice.
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And then he's going to show
his whole family how to cook,
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how to prepare these meals
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which he's done
here for Greg and Sue
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and few other of
our staff members.
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The guy seems to
be a pretty good cook.
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I have a suggestion.
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Yeah, I think you and I
should take a NEWSTART fieldtrip
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and go to Alaska and
check out the restaurant
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once they've got it together.
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Oh, that would be awesome.
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Wouldn't that be fun?
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I think we should do it.
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All right.
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Well, right now,
we've run out of time.
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But God bless you, Doc,
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I really
appreciate all that you do.
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You too, Ron.
Your valuable time.
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God bless you.
00:16:45.73\00:16:47.07
And God bless you,
friends, don't go away
00:16:47.10\00:16:49.10
'cause Pastor Snead is up next.
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Welcome back, friends,
help me welcome Pastor Snead.
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Good to see you,
Brother. Thank you.
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You know...
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We're going to
talk about Tony, right?
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Tony is kind of a special guy,
this is his third time here.
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And he's here
because he got sick,
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really, really bad sick
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as you've seen
in the interviews.
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But I noticed a big change.
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I noticed, you know,
like he shaved his beard,
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his hair is cut and he's lost,
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I don't know, 60, 70 pounds
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and, you know, he's just
making some really huge changes.
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And I know he's spiritually...
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Can we talk about that? Yeah.
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'Cause when I first met him
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he was this
tough guy from Alaska.
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And nobody
better get in his way,
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you know, one of those guys.
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But now he's
changed, what's going on?
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Well, the first time I met
him, he's like everyone else,
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a little
intimidating big old boy.
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You know, he comes into
my first counseling session,
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he comes into the office
and he sits down and he says,
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"All right, where
is the whiskey, pastor?
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I know you got it hidden here."
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And, you know, every word
out of his mouth is not so clean
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and he's telling
me these dirty jokes
00:18:16.12\00:18:17.89
and I'm like, you
know, and kind of like, okay.
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And so my first couple of
weeks with him was that way,
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however, towards
the end of the series
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and, you know, we're getting
to the end of the week two,
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and we're going through...
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Now, he's hitting me as someone
spiritual when we're out.
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He's not there every morning,
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but he's starting to come
a little bit towards the end.
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And then towards the end,
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I just decided
to go for with him,
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I was like, "You
know, Anthony, have you ever
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thought about your
relationship with God?"
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And then he just surprised me.
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"Yeah, I've been
thinking about it a lot
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since I've been
here," and I was blown way.
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Wow!
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'Cause I was raised up
around construction workers,
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guys like this,
so I just thought
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this is never going to happen.
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But it did with him.
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And, you know,
of course he felt,
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and I was surprised to
see him the second time.
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So was I.
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I didn't think I'd ever
see him again, then he did.
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He called and
said, "I'm coming back."
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And he's coming again.
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This is the third time.
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What I got to see with Tony
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is I've got to watch
this spiritual transformation
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with him along with the health.
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Now I've seen the
vulnerable side of him too
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which is fearful as any
man would be facing dialysis,
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or death, or I mean,
his father died young,
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he has all kind of
in-laws that's died young,
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and he knows he's at that age,
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but he's also very
interested in the spiritual.
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So over these
past three sessions,
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and like you said,
it's a total transformation
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spiritually speaking,
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he shaved his beard,
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and every now and
then a word will fly out,
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and he'll look up
and say, "I'm sorry."
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Isn't that something? Yeah.
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And he's moved to
the Bible studies,
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you know, he's
preparing for baptism.
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The next session,
he wants to come back,
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he wants to
actually be baptized,
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the first day that we've met him
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he would have been least likely.
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We would have never guessed it.
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Yeah, as a teacher, I might say,
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"Well, he's a
least likely to succeed."
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And here he is transformed.
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The example I use
is like a caterpillar
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that goes in and
weaves this thing
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and all of the
sudden, it comes out
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this beautiful butterfly.
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You know what I mean? Right.
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It's like I know these people...
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That's pendulum
swings both ways.
00:20:20.38\00:20:23.39
And so those
people are really honoree,
00:20:23.42\00:20:26.39
really bad, they can
make really, really good.
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That's right. Look at Paul.
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I'm talking about
Biblical Paul now.
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Sure, sure.
00:20:35.20\00:20:37.17
And with this guy, I mean,
00:20:37.20\00:20:38.77
if you were to walk
up to his home in Alaska
00:20:38.80\00:20:41.17
with a set of
Bibles study and say,
00:20:41.20\00:20:42.54
"Hey, do you know Jesus?"
00:20:42.57\00:20:43.91
You're going to get
thrown out of that door.
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This is not... Physically.
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Right.
00:20:46.98\00:20:48.31
This is how the health
message works, the beauty of it.
00:20:48.34\00:20:50.45
Now with him, it's taken time,
00:20:50.48\00:20:52.38
but this is all
health programs do,
00:20:52.41\00:20:54.08
they're not always
intended to just grab you
00:20:54.12\00:20:56.52
get to someone in the church.
00:20:56.55\00:20:58.15
They're over time,
00:20:58.19\00:20:59.52
they're designed
to be able to foster
00:20:59.55\00:21:01.59
that
relationship of care and love
00:21:01.62\00:21:03.19
and the Spirit
opens, his heart is open,
00:21:03.22\00:21:05.56
he's talked about
things that I never dreamed
00:21:05.59\00:21:07.20
he would have talked about.
00:21:07.23\00:21:08.56
You know, people
praying over him,
00:21:08.60\00:21:10.23
he's told me that he's never
felt such love, and he knows...
00:21:10.27\00:21:13.17
and this is from
Tony, he's saying,
00:21:13.20\00:21:15.67
"I feel like God is in
this place, God is here."
00:21:15.70\00:21:18.64
And it's impressed
him so, you know...
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Wow, praise God.
00:21:20.24\00:21:22.74
You know, you've
done an incredible job
00:21:22.78\00:21:24.85
with a lot of these folks.
00:21:24.88\00:21:26.72
And I think about
Big Joe, you know?
00:21:26.75\00:21:29.02
Yeah.
00:21:29.05\00:21:30.39
That's another case
talking about big people.
00:21:30.42\00:21:33.76
But, you know,
Tony, he's doing good,
00:21:33.79\00:21:36.26
I know he'll continue,
he's going to come back
00:21:36.29\00:21:38.93
and join us in the next session,
00:21:38.96\00:21:40.96
he wants to stay
here for several months.
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That's right.
00:21:43.26\00:21:44.60
And praise God for that.
00:21:44.63\00:21:46.27
And I want to
be at that baptism.
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That's right.
00:21:48.80\00:21:50.14
We've run out of time.
00:21:50.17\00:21:51.51
I want to thank you, brother.
00:21:51.54\00:21:52.87
All right,
friend. God bless you.
00:21:52.91\00:21:54.38
And, friends, thank
you, but don't go away
00:21:54.41\00:21:56.85
'cause Dr. Nedley
will be right with us.
00:21:56.88\00:21:59.08
Welcome to NEWSTART Now.
00:22:34.48\00:22:35.98
I'm Dr. Neil Nedley,
president of Weimar Institute.
00:22:36.02\00:22:39.62
And with me today
is Dr. Eddie Ramirez,
00:22:39.65\00:22:42.49
researcher, physician,
00:22:42.52\00:22:44.29
and professor here
at Weimar Institute.
00:22:44.33\00:22:46.76
And today, we're
going to be sharing with you
00:22:46.80\00:22:49.43
an exciting study,
00:22:49.46\00:22:52.03
this is on people who are
on high dose benzodiazepine.
00:22:52.07\00:22:56.91
If you know people on
two milligrams of lorazepam,
00:22:56.94\00:23:00.54
you know, twice a day or more,
00:23:00.58\00:23:02.71
or two milligrams of
Xanax twice a day or more,
00:23:02.74\00:23:06.28
or five milligrams of
valium twice a day or more
00:23:06.31\00:23:09.78
or we could go
through a whole list of them.
00:23:09.82\00:23:14.79
People do not know
how to get off of these
00:23:14.82\00:23:17.59
and they also tend to have
00:23:17.63\00:23:19.29
high rates of
depression and anxiety.
00:23:19.33\00:23:22.26
And so, Dr. Ramirez, you
actually analyzed the people
00:23:22.30\00:23:26.80
coming in to Weimar Institute
00:23:26.84\00:23:29.50
to our Depression and
Anxiety Recovery Program.
00:23:29.54\00:23:33.71
This is where they're severe
and so they're under our care.
00:23:33.74\00:23:37.58
But they're not
under our care first,
00:23:37.61\00:23:40.12
they're under
other physician's care.
00:23:40.15\00:23:42.55
And so they make
the call to Leanne
00:23:42.58\00:23:44.89
our nurse case manager,
00:23:44.92\00:23:46.82
and they're asking about
00:23:46.86\00:23:48.26
the Depression and
Anxiety Recovery Program.
00:23:48.29\00:23:51.09
And if they're on a high
dose what did your study show?
00:23:51.13\00:23:53.53
What does she recommend them?
00:23:53.56\00:23:55.70
So what we would
like for them to do
00:23:55.73\00:23:58.17
is to decrease
their benzodiazepine usage
00:23:58.20\00:24:01.70
working together
with their physician
00:24:01.74\00:24:04.34
before they come to our program
00:24:04.37\00:24:06.61
in order to get
00:24:06.64\00:24:07.98
the most out of our
residential 10-day program.
00:24:08.01\00:24:12.85
We're very likely to be
able to get them off in 10 days
00:24:12.88\00:24:15.82
if they start that
reduction beforehand.
00:24:15.85\00:24:18.85
And so Leanne actually
gives them some recommendations
00:24:18.89\00:24:22.99
to give to their physician
00:24:23.02\00:24:24.36
on what they would
like to accomplish,
00:24:24.39\00:24:26.56
and the physician's goal
00:24:26.59\00:24:28.16
is to get them down to
less than two milligrams
00:24:28.20\00:24:31.10
of this alprazolam or lorazepam
00:24:31.13\00:24:34.24
a day before the program starts.
00:24:34.27\00:24:37.21
How many people did
we look at in this study?
00:24:37.24\00:24:40.21
So we had a 368
people that finished
00:24:40.24\00:24:45.31
and started our 10-day
00:24:45.35\00:24:47.25
Residential
Depression Recovery Program.
00:24:47.28\00:24:50.49
Okay, so this is a
large group of patients
00:24:50.52\00:24:53.96
on these medicines,
00:24:53.99\00:24:55.72
and what did we find out...
00:24:55.76\00:25:00.50
What is the
protocol and what happens?
00:25:00.53\00:25:02.30
So what we're sharing
in this particular study
00:25:02.33\00:25:05.30
published in the
American Journal on addictions,
00:25:05.33\00:25:08.57
we are sharing
what is our pathway,
00:25:08.60\00:25:13.34
what do we do
with these patients
00:25:13.38\00:25:15.38
that are taken
these medications,
00:25:15.41\00:25:17.91
what protocol we follow to help
00:25:17.95\00:25:20.52
and get off this
short acting benzodiazepines
00:25:20.55\00:25:25.15
that are
actually quite addictive.
00:25:25.19\00:25:27.22
So we're sharing
here step by step,
00:25:27.26\00:25:29.72
how we use interventions
00:25:29.76\00:25:32.09
such as lavender
oil in an oral form,
00:25:32.13\00:25:36.20
and if those people
are struggling very much
00:25:36.23\00:25:39.63
with this decrease in
their short type of benzos
00:25:39.67\00:25:44.44
like the alprazolam, lorazepam,
00:25:44.47\00:25:46.54
then we can add actually
a more longer acting benzo
00:25:46.57\00:25:51.41
such as chlorazepam.
00:25:51.45\00:25:53.82
In the meanwhile,
while we're helping them
00:25:53.85\00:25:56.38
in this process of
overcoming these benzos.
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Okay.
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And so it is a
very nice protocol,
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it's well described here,
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and so our idea
behind publishing this
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is not only can you get
help at Weimar Institute,
00:26:11.37\00:26:14.64
but if your
physician gets educated
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to be able to do
some of the same things
00:26:17.61\00:26:19.57
that we're doing
here at Weimar Institute,
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there is a chance
that you or your loved one
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can get off of these drugs.
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And I can tell you if they do,
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they'll be a whole lot
easier to get along with,
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they'll be a whole lot easier
to in regards to relationships,
00:26:30.75\00:26:35.52
and anxiety, and depression.
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Any other results that
you want to bring forward
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in this particular
study, Dr. Ramirez?
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Yes, their anxiety
decreased dramatically
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from severe type of anxiety
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as they're making these
changes in their medication,
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they come down to
mild levels of anxiety
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as a result of this synergy,
of this lifestyle factors,
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and decreasing
those addictive substances
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that they were taking.
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And that's amazing
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'cause that's
lower levels of anxiety
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when they were on
the high doses of benzos.
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So a lot of times people think,
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"Well, I have to
go up on my benzos."
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No, the answer is
get to the real issues
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causing the
brain chemistry issues,
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and then you'll be able
to go down on your benzos
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and have far less anxiety
than you've ever had before.
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There's three options,
the community-based version,
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the home-based version,
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but this particular
option is the one we studied,
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the residential program.
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And contact us today
if you know of anyone
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that needs help
with their anxiety
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and are on these medications.
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I'm Dr. Neil Nedley,
this is NEWSTART Now,
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and join us again next
week for another exciting study.
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