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01:13 Hi, friends, and welcome to another edition
01:15 of NEWSTART Now. 01:17 I'm your host Ron Giannone. 01:19 In our studio with me is Cynthia Prieto 01:23 from West Texas. 01:25 And hold on, we've got quite an interview coming up. 01:28 So let's take a look at when she first arrived. 01:32 Okay, the main reason I'm here 01:33 is because I'm a type 2 diabetic, 01:38 ended up with high blood pressure, not, 01:43 which is not too good for a diabetic. 01:45 And main reason I came because I could be leading like 01:49 to the kidney, kidney problems. 01:52 And, you know, if there is something I can do, 01:58 you know, to reverse it, it would be great 02:00 and that's why I'm here to try to, you know, 02:03 see that I can get the help. 02:05 The most of all that I would like to do 02:07 is get off of my medication, having to... 02:11 At least having to wake up and not know, 02:13 oh, I forgot my shot, oh, I forgot my pills, 02:16 or I don't have to, you know, 02:18 I don't want to think about that, 02:19 I just want to be able to get up 02:20 and not have to put any of the medicine 02:23 in my body no more. 02:29 Welcome back, friends. 02:31 Cynthia, good to see you. Hi. 02:33 Good to see you too. 02:34 And I'm so happy to hear all the good things 02:37 that are happening with you. 02:38 Oh, yeah. A lot of good things. 02:40 So, you know, we just took a look at 02:43 when you first arrived, and we thought initially 02:47 or you thought you were diagnosed 02:49 with kidney failure, diabetes, obesity, 02:53 high blood pressure, 02:56 high cholesterol, high, what else? 02:59 What else? What else? 03:01 A lot of more. No, not really. 03:02 No. I'm sorry. 03:04 You know, that's all right. Be yourself, be yourself. 03:06 Okay. So now what's happened? 03:10 What have our doctors discovered with you? 03:12 It's just changed. 03:15 Everything has changed. 03:17 Actually I feel, I've got my life back. 03:20 Not having to, you know, put all these shots 03:24 and take all this medicine is just a relief. 03:26 You're not taking shots anymore? 03:28 No, no, the insulin shots are gone. 03:30 Gone, kaput. Gone. 03:33 I would have to, I used the... 03:36 Twice a day I would have to use the oral medication. 03:39 And that was another in addition, 03:42 and then still on hypertension medication 03:44 they had barely diagnosed me with a high blood pressure. 03:47 Okay. 03:48 But as I continued to do the exercise, 03:50 everything has, you know, exercise, 03:52 drinking the water, everything has, 03:54 everything has changed. 03:55 But you got to go on dialysis, right? 03:58 No. You don't? 03:59 No, not on dialysis. Thank God. 04:00 I know, I know you don't. I just had to throw that. 04:03 But you don't have any kidney issue at all? 04:05 No. 04:06 And you no longer have diabetes? 04:07 No. 04:09 No longer have high blood pressure? 04:10 No. You're off all medication? 04:12 All of medications, yes, sir. 04:14 Folks, what can I say? That is so wonderful. 04:19 And you're here with mom and your brother. 04:22 Yes. Right? 04:23 Yes. And the three of you... 04:25 Have teamed up. Have teamed up finally. 04:28 Yeah. Yeah. 04:30 And I heard from you 04:31 before we started this interview, 04:33 you've already walked six miles and it's 11 am in the morning. 04:37 Already. 04:39 And your husband is saying, 04:40 "How are you gonna do that when you get back home?" 04:42 I know. 04:43 And you said what? You're gonna do what? 04:45 I'm just gonna keep at it. 04:46 You know, every moment I have, every chance I have, 04:49 put in a mile, an extra mile until I'm done. 04:53 But I've been walking the six miles already, 04:56 but I'm closer to the eight miles a day. 04:59 Really? 05:00 So by the time I'm done, it's closely to an eight mile, 05:03 which I couldn't even do that. 05:04 It was just like maybe two miles the most. 05:09 And I was just tired still. 05:11 You know, I was just like 05:13 trying to drag myself up the little hills. 05:17 But now you're doing great. Oh, yes. 05:19 How much weight have you lost? 05:21 I've lost a total of 10 pounds. 05:23 Awesome, in 18 days. 05:25 In 18 days. 05:26 Okay, well, you realized that when you lose fat, 05:32 you may have lost 15 or 20 pounds of fat. 05:36 Then you gain what? 05:38 Muscle, right? Muscle. 05:40 So it's hard to determine how much fat we lose 05:43 when we go through this program 05:45 because we don't do the wane and the water type thing. 05:48 But you're doing marvelous. 05:50 But I feel inches off. 05:52 So my clothes are fitting loose so that's what they told me 05:55 that you will start if you, 05:57 even though that you couldn't tell you, 05:58 you feel it on your clothes. 06:00 I'm like "Wow! That's great." 06:01 Yes. Yes. 06:03 You know, you're gonna have to keep buying new wardrobes. 06:04 Oh, yeah. 06:06 I'll wait till the very last day, you know. 06:10 And then buy extra tight. Yeah. 06:12 So you can fit into those after a while. 06:14 Yes. 06:16 So what was your favorite part of the program? 06:20 The favorite part of the program 06:22 was being able to be around doctors, 06:26 around the staff. 06:28 You know, they keep on pushing you and, you know, 06:31 encouraging you every day, you know, 06:33 and that was my favorite part. 06:35 Being able to, you know, have lunch with them, 06:38 walk with them, you know, 06:40 just be around them if you needed anything. 06:42 Have you ever been to a doctor where they prayed with you, 06:45 then took you out for a walk, invited you into their home, 06:49 walk with you, and eat breakfast and lunch? 06:51 Have you ever... Is that ever happened to you? 06:53 No, no, that has never happened. 06:55 Never happened to me until I got here. 06:57 No, no, until you get here. Yes. 06:58 That's right. They pray for you. 07:00 They pray with you and it's really nice, 07:02 it's really nice. 07:04 Comforting. Oh, yes. 07:05 Now your doctor is one of my dearest friends, 07:09 Dr. Rick Lukens. 07:11 Dr. Lukens. 07:12 And we're gonna interview him right after here 07:14 and get his opinion of how you're doing. 07:17 He's always fun to interview. 07:18 Oh, yeah, he's a fun doctor. Yes. 07:20 He likes to play basketball too. 07:22 Oh, and he's good at it. And he's good at it. 07:24 Yeah, and I'm jealous. But I shouldn't be jealous. 07:27 There's some things I'm good at and when I find out 07:30 what they are, I'll let you know. 07:32 All right. All right. 07:34 Okay, so when you get back home, 07:37 will you be teaching at the church 07:40 and the rest of the family? 07:43 What are you gonna do with all this knowledge? 07:45 We're gonna try... 07:46 I'm gonna try to get something together, you know, 07:49 to help out our church family there, 07:51 members, my family especially, 07:53 and anyone else that needs help. 07:55 You know, trying to get them to reverse their diabetes, 07:59 it's a big help. 08:00 Is it in the community? In the community there. 08:03 You know, I have a sister that, you know, because of her... 08:07 She had started already, you know, 08:10 doing the vegetarian to do the lifestyle change. 08:13 And I've seen improvements in her, 08:16 and it has really helped her. 08:17 You know, she's suffered with thyroid and arthritis and, 08:21 you know, she's energetic now just, 08:25 just by changing the, you know, the lifestyle of eating. 08:28 Well, how does she change it? 08:29 But she's at home, right? And she's at home. 08:32 And you've been telling her what to do. 08:34 No, she actually had been telling me to... 08:37 She had been telling me to... 08:39 Oh, I see. Yeah. 08:40 I see, and that's how you got here. 08:41 Yeah. 08:43 And actually my brother, my brother is the one 08:45 that got us to come up here. 08:47 I know he called me a couple of months ago 08:49 and said, they needed to get you here before you die. 08:53 Yes, he said... 08:54 He said I have a friend up there that told me 08:57 about the program but I didn't think, you know, 08:59 we ought to try it 09:00 or they were gonna come drop me off 09:02 and then they decided that they wanted to join 09:05 'cause they wanted to learn more. 09:06 He told me he was gonna fly here with you, 09:09 drop you off, then fly back, 09:12 and then fly back here to pick you up. 09:14 And I don't... Wait a minute. 09:17 I'm glad. I'm so glad for you. 09:18 I'm glad that they were able to stay 09:21 and take this journey together, you know, I mean, 09:24 it was awesome, it was nice. 09:25 Yeah. 09:27 A family that prays together, 09:29 and exercises together, stays together. 09:32 Yes. 09:33 Okay, so what next? What's your next goal? 09:39 What are you gonna do from here 09:42 as far as your weight and your health? 09:45 My goal is to, you know, keep at it every day, 09:51 you know, especially, you know, 09:54 that personal relationship with God, 09:56 I think is gonna help too. 09:59 And, you know, He can keep us on track 10:02 and just continue going on and sharing 10:05 this good information with everyone. 10:08 It's so awesome. 10:09 You know, oh, we forget but, you know, 10:13 at our last graduation, everyone that stood up 10:16 and got that reward or award, praise God, 10:20 because of His presence here and how they were healed 10:25 from diseases that have been years and years old. 10:28 Oh, yeah. 10:29 Cynthia, we're out of time. 10:31 I wanna thank you for being here 10:33 and God bless you. 10:35 Thank you. 10:36 But I'll be following up with you. 10:37 Okay. I'm checking in on you. 10:39 All right. All right. 10:40 So I better stay on track. That's right. 10:42 And, friends, don't go away, Dr. Lukens is up next. 10:51 Every year in America, 10:52 there are over one million deaths 10:54 because of type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity, 10:56 this includes heart attacks and strokes, 10:59 that's six and a half, 747s crushing every day. 11:02 What's even more surprising 11:04 is that the fix is easy, it's your lifestyle. 11:07 Wouldn't it be nice if you could actually add 11:09 quality years to your life 11:11 rather than dying one organ at a time? 11:13 Obesity and diabetes are the cause of 11:15 over a million deaths per year. 11:18 Most diseases are reversible 11:20 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases, 11:23 especially type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 11:26 Seriously now, they can be reversed 11:28 and the quality of your life can be renewed. 11:32 Call NEWSTART Today at 18005259192. 11:38 You will see dramatic changes 11:40 in the first few days at our program. 11:42 And you will be on the road 11:43 to a better more robust quality of life. 11:46 The NEWSTART programs are simple and effective. 11:52 Welcome back, friends, 11:53 Dr. Lukens in the house with us. 11:55 Yeah. 11:57 You know, I'm told 11:58 you're such a good basketball player. 12:00 That is way, way over stated. 12:04 But I do run, I can run. 12:06 Well, at least you're playing. 12:08 Yeah, I know, it's good, sometimes but... 12:10 Cynthia said, "You play basketball." 12:12 I said, I know. 12:13 Well, yeah, I do, but I over do it, you know. 12:17 Now it's surprising because some of these kids 12:20 really run fast, and I try to run after them. 12:22 Yeah, but we're not kids anymore. 12:25 Oh, nuts. 12:28 We got to go out and hit the ball. 12:29 We got to go and hit the ball. 12:30 Yeah, yeah, that's... 12:32 My shoulder is getting better, so. 12:33 Well, that's good. 12:35 You know, a good Dr. reckon... 12:36 No, there are... 12:37 You know, okay. 12:39 Cynthia, she got here, she had all these problems. 12:43 Yes. 12:45 Her kidneys were going bad, diabetes, 12:49 high blood pressure, obesity. 12:51 She was a mess she thought. 12:54 What did you find in her? 12:55 How do you mean she thought? 12:56 She knew. 12:58 Her A1C, you know, 13:01 her sugar levels were really high 13:03 and, and she had and she did... 13:05 You know, it's such a pain in the neck 13:07 or elsewhere to be injecting, 13:10 injecting, injecting all the time. 13:12 They wanted to do daily two, give the 40 in the morning, 13:15 the 30 in the evening. 13:17 And finally, I guess 13:19 the doctors were just the doctor. 13:21 Doctors were getting just like, you know, 13:24 "Lady, are you gonna get serious sometimes 13:27 about what's going on?" 13:29 She had... 13:30 She had another medicine that she had to take, 13:35 which is supposed to help lower the blood sugar. 13:38 And then she was on the original one 13:42 that they give you, 13:44 so that she don't absorb so much sugar, 13:46 and the liver doesn't pour it out 13:48 and that thus sometimes give people diarrhea 13:51 for the rest of the time. 13:52 They are on and it's just... 13:54 So anyway we know the lifestyle is 13:58 far, far beyond anything that you can do with medications. 14:04 And the more they look into it, the more they study it, 14:07 they say, "Lifestyle is the way to treat disease, 14:12 especially the diabetes." 14:15 And they showed that in the European study, 14:20 we showed it on our Accord study 14:21 over here that, you know, 14:24 you can't bring these numbers down, 14:26 just treat the number, you know, 14:28 treat the patient and so forth. 14:30 So now what happens is that there is a push back 14:34 by the opposite of... 14:36 I don't want to call it the opposition, 14:38 but the ones that are making the medications, 14:40 and they said, "No." 14:41 But if you catch it early enough, 14:43 and this was just a few months ago. 14:46 And so they did a worldwide study. 14:49 Well, many, many side study, 14:52 and they looked at it, two doctors did. 14:54 And they went through all of these things 14:55 that they found, you know, actually those people, 14:59 when they got early treatment and so forth, 15:02 those were more like type-1 diabetics. 15:05 So that's, they did need the medications. 15:08 And other ones, 15:09 they were doing better with the type 2s. 15:13 They didn't need the medications 15:14 and they could get away from it. 15:16 Do you find from time to time the people are diagnosed 15:20 and properly, that they're not really type 1? 15:23 Well, it says it's a little bit. 15:24 You know, they, they've renamed it 15:26 because after you've been type 2 long enough, 15:30 and the ones that whipped the kidney, 15:33 then your kidney can't work as strong as it did. 15:35 And then eventually 5 to 10 years later, 15:38 you have to go on insulin. 15:40 And then you can't get your weight down 15:41 and it just kind of snowballs. 15:43 So no lifestyle and see that's what I told Cynthia. 15:48 I said, you know, "How much I asked her the first 15:52 or the second time. 15:53 How much walking do you..." 15:54 "Oh, maybe I could get up to 2 miles or 3." 15:59 I said, "By the end of the week, 16:01 I want you to be able to do more than 5. 16:03 And then next week, I want you to do 8 to 10." 16:06 And she's gonna like "Me?" 16:09 No. I said, "Yeah." 16:11 And she did it. 16:12 I know. Yeah. 16:13 I mean, she's... She walks 6 miles this morning. 16:15 Yeah, I mean, then... 16:17 And so the weight is coming off, 16:20 the fat is coming off, 16:21 the fats coming out of the liver. 16:23 She... 16:24 We took her off of all of her medications 16:27 for her diabetes before the fast. 16:30 So she starts to fast on Tuesday 16:34 and she goes through the three days. 16:36 It was kind of tough for some of the people, 16:38 but she's never gone back on him. 16:40 And her blood sugars are better than they were 16:43 when she came, quite a bit better 16:46 and she's not on any medication. 16:48 Isn't that wonderful? That is so awesome. 16:51 Yeah, that's the eight laws of health. 16:52 Amen. 16:54 What about type 3 diabetes, I'm reading about that now? 16:57 Is that just the name they put on? 16:59 Well, I think, they say to be 17:02 and the different things like that. 17:04 But what they're saying is that, you've got, 17:06 your pancreas is burned out, 17:10 and so now you have to be on insulin 17:11 the rest of your life. 17:13 And I'm not sure that... 17:14 I'm not sure if they lost the weight 17:16 that they have to be on it. 17:17 You know, but that's just the conventional wisdom 17:20 that goes around. 17:21 You know, I've learned from you over the years 17:24 that even people on dialysis, 17:27 people in kidney failure can be reversed 17:31 and get them off dialysis and strengthen their kidneys 17:35 as we have seen with many people 17:37 in the past years. 17:39 But she never had a kidney problem, does she? 17:42 Yeah. Well, it was starting. 17:44 She was starting to spill protein and so forth. 17:48 But see the thing is that, I think, they were trying to, 17:51 you know, get through towards that. 17:53 You can go on dialysis 17:55 if you keep up what you're doing, you know. 17:57 So there was some signs, but it wasn't. 18:00 You know, it wasn't like 18:01 some of the ones that are coming in. 18:02 And it hasn't been years that I've told you this 18:05 because it's only been a year 18:07 and some that they were realizing. 18:09 Hey, this is a cardio renal axis here, 18:13 and sometimes it's a heart that's failing, 18:16 and then the kidneys can't... 18:17 They can't filter 18:19 when they're not enough blood coming through. 18:20 Yeah. 18:22 Well, it seems like years, 18:23 maybe because I've known you for years. 18:26 Anyway I know that, that's, that's something that, 18:29 that's exciting. 18:31 Even people with hypertension that have the kidney problems, 18:35 we're finding out that those respond as well. 18:38 You know, what I'm excited about for her as well, 18:41 is her brother is here and her mother is here. 18:44 They're a wonderful family. 18:46 Mom sat them down and they had worship every day. 18:50 The kids love the Lord. They are just wonderful. 18:52 Yeah. Yeah. 18:54 And they're gonna go back and teach the church. 18:55 Yeah. 18:57 And the other people in the Hispanic community, 19:00 mostly Mexican, I understand. 19:03 And... 19:04 And they want to, they want to get our chaplain 19:06 and our other chaplain that plays a piano 19:10 to come down there. 19:11 We're just talking about that at breakfast. 19:13 We got to get down there 19:14 and help the people in their area. 19:16 Yeah, that would be wonderful. Yeah. 19:18 So any last minute, we've got a few seconds left. 19:22 Anything you can say to our viewers 19:24 that might encourage them? 19:26 Walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, 19:29 and you'll feel better, and then you realize 19:32 you can make some other life changes too. 19:33 Amen. 19:35 Doctor, I wanna thank you for taking your time. 19:38 I know you're busy. 19:39 We've seen a lot of guests, and patients, whatever. 19:42 Well, thank you so much. 19:44 It's my pleasure. Yeah. 19:45 And thank you, friends, but don't go away. 19:48 We have a message coming up. 20:27 Hello, I'm Dr. Neil Nedley. This is NEWSTART Now. 20:30 And with me today is Dr. Eddie Ramirez. 20:33 And Dr. Ramirez, this study actually got 20:36 a lot of interest when it was presented by you 20:40 in Las Vegas at the Sexual Medicine Conference. 20:45 Since that time, it has been published 20:47 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine. 20:49 We're actually going to be talking about two studies 20:51 that were published 20:53 in the Journal of Sexual Medicine 20:54 and produced a lot of questions and a lot of interest 20:59 because it turns out... 21:00 This had not really been looked at. 21:02 We're studying sex in all sorts of different ways these days 21:06 in the scientific literature, but sex in the context 21:10 of a marriage relationship versus 21:13 not in a marriage relationship 21:15 is something that had not really been looked at. 21:18 And so tell us a little bit about 21:20 where these subjects came from 21:22 and what we were actually analyzing. 21:25 This is a nice big sample 5,621 participants 21:30 of the community version of the depression 21:33 and recovery program from all over the world. 21:36 And what we were looking at is what relationship does 21:41 sexual relationships outside of the context of marriage, 21:45 what effect does that have on depression 21:49 and emotional intelligence. 21:51 So, Dr. Ramirez, a lot of people, 21:53 they want to have sex outside of marriage 21:56 because they think it's going to increase their happiness. 22:01 They might even think 22:02 it's one of the treatments for depression. 22:04 You know, they're depressed, and so let's have casual sex, 22:07 let's have it often, and let's have it 22:10 outside of a marriage relationship 22:12 and, and thus improve their mental health. 22:16 Is that what the study showed 22:17 that it improved the mental health? 22:19 Not necessarily. 22:20 In fact, we found the opposite. Okay. 22:22 Those people involved in sexual relationships 22:25 outside of marriage, they actually had 22:27 the worst indexes among mental health 22:31 when we were measuring depression 22:33 by a standardized tool that we use 22:35 the depression and anxiety assessment test. 22:37 Okay, so it's one of those classic examples 22:40 of maybe short-term gain, but long-term problems. 22:44 And of course, that's why people turn to alcohol. 22:46 You know, they think it's gonna help them out short-term, 22:48 but it ends up causing a lot more problems long-term. 22:51 And so this group that was having sex 22:55 outside of marriage, 22:57 how did their levels of depression compare? 23:00 So they had a moderate, higher on average 23:06 but some of them had 23:08 that type of severe type of depression, 23:11 those that were involve in the sexual relationship 23:14 outside of marriage. 23:15 While those that were not, usually there are levels 23:17 were more of a low moderate level, 23:20 mild, and so forth. 23:23 Okay, so it made a significant difference 23:25 in the severity of depression. 23:27 And what else did you noticed? 23:28 Well, we found that there is hope. 23:31 Even those people that were involved 23:34 in sexual relationships outside of marriage, 23:36 as they came to the program, understood the negative effects 23:40 that this have in their mental health 23:42 and stop that behavior. 23:44 There were among those that improve the most 23:47 in the program and were able to come down 23:50 to no level of depression. 23:52 Okay. 23:54 So if during the eight-week program, 23:55 they change that practice, 23:57 they actually improved the most. 23:59 That's right. 24:00 And their levels of depression and anxiety 24:02 were much more likely to go away. 24:05 So if you make mistakes and so forth, 24:06 well, there's hope. 24:08 You know, there's hope of change of behavior 24:10 and a secondary to that, you will have an improvement 24:14 in your mental health. 24:15 Okay, so not only their depression scores 24:17 and anxiety scores improved 24:19 if they were not having sex outside of marriage. 24:21 But you also did a separate study 24:24 measuring what? 24:25 Emotional intelligence. 24:27 And those with sexual relationships 24:29 outside of the context of marriage, 24:31 at the beginning had 24:33 the worst emotional intelligence. 24:35 Yet, those that were able to stop that behavior 24:39 by the end of the program, 24:41 improved the most their emotional intelligence 24:44 coming up to 109.2 on average. 24:49 The nice thing about this is, 24:50 this program is actually available to anyone today. 24:55 They can do it in their own home. 24:57 They can do it in a community-based program 24:59 or they could actually come to Weimar Institute 25:01 and do the residential program. 25:03 So three options 25:05 for dramatically improving levels 25:07 of depression, anxiety, and emotional intelligence. 25:11 I'm Dr. Neil Nedley, this is NEWSTART Now. 25:14 And join us again next week for another exciting study. 25:19 When we look at the health status 25:21 of Americans today, 25:22 it's alarming to see that 60% are either overweight or obese. 25:32 In addition, diseases such as type 2 diabetes, 25:35 cancer, and heart disorders are the leading cause 25:38 of so many complications and deaths every year. 25:45 Could it have something to do with what we eat? 25:48 After all, everyone in four Americans 25:50 visits a fast-food restaurant daily 25:52 and with such easy access to quick fix foods. 25:56 We tend to forget the poor health value, 25:58 those foods actually offer. 26:01 Maybe it's the sedentary lifestyle 26:03 and lack of exercise that we've become so accustomed 26:05 to as a media dependent world. 26:08 Whatever the cause of these diseases, 26:10 a solution has arrived. 26:14 The NEWSTART Lifestyle Center offers enriching program 26:18 where patients can get a healing of mind, 26:20 and body, and soul. 26:22 Located in the outskirts of Sacramento, 26:24 the NEWSTART Center is situated on the beautiful campus 26:27 of Weimar Center of Health and Education 26:30 with scenic walking and hiking trails all around. 26:34 With a whole plant foods eaten whole motto, 26:37 the NEWSTART Center promotes a healthy plant-based diet 26:40 with an emphasis on natural foods. 26:43 The NEWSTART staff are made up 26:45 of California board-certified nurses, 26:47 doctors, dieticians, and therapists, 26:50 who work together to assist each patient personally. 26:54 The staff are dedicated to each patient's success 26:56 in the program and are always there 26:58 to guide, advise, and encourage. 27:01 In addition to a healthy lifestyle, 27:03 NEWSTART also promotes a healthy exercise routine. 27:06 You're both in sequence, that's good. 27:08 All right. 27:10 As part of the balanced program, 27:11 there is much opportunity to get in the fair share 27:14 of physical activity from utilizing 27:16 our fitness center to taking a stroll 27:18 around the peaceful grounds of Weimar. 27:21 It's amazing what a NEWSTART can do for you! 27:24 Well, friends, that's it for today, 27:25 but join us next week for another episode. 27:29 In the meantime, pick up the phone 27:30 and give us a call at 800-525-9192. 27:36 Mentioned the NEWSTART Now program 27:39 and receive the NEWSTART special. |
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