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Hi friends and
welcome to another edition of
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NEWSTART Now. I'm your host
Ron Gionnoni. In our studio with
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me I have a lovely young lady
by the name of Sherry Carole
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right from Los Altos, California
I want to take a look. Now watch
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carefully when she first arrived
and then we're going to take a
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look at how she looks now.
Within two months I went from
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being fully capable of caring
for myself, very active, just
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really bubbly and vivacious in
life having problems over here
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but always a cheerful soul to
having have someone prepare all
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my food, do my hair, and dress
me morning and night. And I had
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to quit my job. So finally
I went to a medical doctor and
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he diagnosed me with a rapid,
aggressive onset of rheumatoid
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arthritis and that was just last
Thursday. And so you need to get
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on drugs right away; prednisone
and this other cancer fighting
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drug that really raises heck
with your liver and your kidneys
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and it is a really, really scary
time because I kind of feel it
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in my toe and in my knees. I'm
fully committed to being here
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I'm fully present. I'm willing
to receive a healing. I'm
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willing to receive the care and
I'm really desiring to give back
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while I'm here. I am looking for
complete mobility in my hands
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and to be comfortable in my
entire body and knowing that
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this disease has left my body
permanently. And I believe that
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that will happen.
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type II diabetes and chronic
obesity. This includes heart
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attacks and strokes. That's
6-1/2747s crashing every day.
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What's even more surprising is
that the fix is easy. It's your
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lifestyle. Wouldn't it be
nice if you could actually add
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quality years to your life
rather than dying one organ at
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a time. Obesity and diabetes
are the cause of over a million
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deaths per year and most
diseases are reversible because
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most diseases are
lifestyle diseases;
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Seriously now, they can be
reversed and the quality of your
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life can be renewed.
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You will see dramatic changes
in the first few days of our
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program and you will be on the
road to a better, more robust
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quality of life.
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Welcome back friends and in our
studio is Sherry. Good to see
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you. Good to see you too, Ron.
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You are just glowing.
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I feel a glow.
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Yeah, you are.
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I do. You know, I just feel this
radiance and this light and this
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transformation.
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Do you remember 17
days ago when you got here?
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I didn't until I was reminded.
My doctor, by my doctor and he
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said do you realize what you
were like the first day I saw
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you. And he reminded me that
with the arthritis that was so
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painful in my hands that he
couldn't touch my hands. My body
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hurt so badly because of
just tension that I was under.
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I think it was just so frozen
with fear that I remember the
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the first night's sleep I had I
couldn't even turn over in bed.
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I just had to lay there. Every
time I tried to turn I was in
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agony. When he tried to just
put a stethoscope on my chest, I
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go oh don't touch me. Don't
touch me anywhere. Now when I
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get reminded of it it's very
vivid because when you and I
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were sitting here before, the
most important thing to me was
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getting rid of the arthritis
or finding out a solution and
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that the fear, the gripping fear
that I felt and the prognosis
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if there's only one way out of
this and that is through drugs
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that they use for cancer, and
prednisone, and not having taken
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antibiotics for 30 years because
for me they've created more
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side effects than the actual
condition that I had. I just
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opted out of that solution.
But I came up against rheumatoid
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arthritis and I felt that
I didn't think I had other
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solutions and I went into panic.
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Do you remember, you were in
such panic, do you remember the
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phone calls and the
texting that we had?
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The multitude of them.
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The multitude we had where you
said well I don't think I can
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make it and you were coming in
with all these excuses. Do you
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remember what I
kept saying to you?
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You'll be blessed. Come and
you'll be blessed. And now I
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understand through this journey
here that I had what you meant
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by that. At least for
me, because we all have our
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individual blessings and
by talking to everyone, if you
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could interview every one
they've all had a blessing
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beyond their expectations. For
me it was really extra special
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because it was so profound and
so unexpected. Because I came
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here, I thought, for my
crippling arthritis. That's what
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I thought. But I marinated
in the spirit of NEWSTART and
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fresh start and new beginnings
and a different way of living.
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It was so congruent from
every one. The love of Jesus is
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preeminent everywhere. And
whenever you were doubting they
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say can I pray for you? Let's
just pray together, right? But
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for me it happened two days
ago when I woke up and I thought
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okay this program's about over
and my pain is less but it's not
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gone. I was expecting to be
here on camera touting how my
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rheumatoid arthritis was
completely gone. But what
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happened was far better because
God spoke to me. And that
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doesn't happen in such
vivid language like we'd
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love to have it
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happen. For some people it does.
For me the message that came
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through to me from the Holy
Spirit was you've been granted
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the gift and the blessing that
I had in store for you and that
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gift was the certainty of my
salvation through the teachings
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that happened here through Damon
the pastor and through everybody
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that's so congruent. There isn't
one individual here that doesn't
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walk the talk of Jesus which
is love and encouragement and
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cheer leading. When everybody
else is gloom and doom and
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there's no your life from here
on out is going to be struggle
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and limitation and lack. And
I accepted that gift. The old me
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before I got here would have
said yeah I know my salvation
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Lord, I got baptized and
I've been walking the walk and I
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understand. I've been reborn
and baptized. But the good Lord
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convicted me here and I truly
as God is my absolute witness
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had I not come here I would not
have eternal salvation. I really
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know from the conviction that
I got from the sermons every
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single morning at 7 a. m. after
we had our song worship and I
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had the Bible study with Damon.
He really has the modern day
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Steps to Christ.
So it transforms you.
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I want to ask you another
question. Yeah. What happened to
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the fear? What happened to the
anxiety? What happened to the
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depression? What happened to
that old self? Did she disappear
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Is she in there somewhere. I
don't feel her anymore like if I
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really examine my soul. You know
I think there's always if I feel
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arthritis in my foot or I feel
it in my hands and I wake up
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and I have the pain, I no longer
give it any energy on where that
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might go because I'm too much
focused on my future with God
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and the richness of that.
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You know what pleases me so
much Sherry is that I remember
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talking to you on the phone
before you got here and then
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our first interview and
you were in a state of being or
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mind state that you didn't think
there was any hope but maybe you
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find some here. And I saw when
we met again not to many days
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later, you saw it very
clearly that there was hope.
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Well, and it's not false hope.
Yes. I think this world is full
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of false hope and when you're
not on the path... A realization
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that came to me is you know so
often we talk about the narrow
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path, right, to salvation, and
through this experience the path
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might be narrow, but it is
overflowing with beauty and it's
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overflowing with grace and
gifts along the way. And we all
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kind of think oh I have to go on
this narrow grinding path and we
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walk five miles a day here.
We do our hydrotherapy baths, we
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have our morning stretch, 35
health lectures. So I've come
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out far more educated so I feel
more understanding of how to
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structure my life so that cancer
doesn't scare me because I
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understand the
cause now and have been.
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And you've made it very simple.
Then I had 12 cooking or 9
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cooking classes. Eleven. Yeah
11, right. And I didn't ever
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cook before. I'm 65 and I never
cooked. So how I got this far in
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life, my husband
cooks incredibly well.
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Maybe you can
teach him a few things.
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But I fell in love with cooking
and I fell in love with the
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flavors of the food and the
healing, how food is my medicine
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and that's they teach here. So
it's been a transformation but
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I know it was a transformation
because I was immersed in God's
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will and his way and his word.
And it was very clear and I did
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not think that this was going to
be the outcome for me, I have to
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say. I'm still pleasantly
surprised and the doctor saw me
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yesterday and he took a double
take. He was waiting for me to
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do my treadmill test and he
took a double take and he goes
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Oh my gosh. You're alive,
you know you have a light in you
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because I had so many phobias
when I came with him and I was
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distraught with them. One
by one so patiently they worked
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with me. So I feel the light
of the Lord inside and I think
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that's what's shining
through but I connected here.
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Connected all the dots. Sherry I
want to think you. We're run out
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of time. I understand.
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God bless you. I want
to hear more from you.
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God bless you.
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And so I hope to hear
from you again real soon.
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Friends, God bless you. Don't
go away. Dr. Gallant is up next.
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Welcome back friends and help
me welcome Dr. Roger Gallant.
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Ron, good to see you my brother.
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Good to see you. I want to get
right into talking about Sherry
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because she's gone through this
magnificent change. You know
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when she got here she could just
see... when she first arrived
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she was in a
little bit of a panic.
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She was.
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What do you think happened here?
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She admits that, you know, that
she was worried and that her
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emotions were up and down and
she wasn't where she wanted to
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be. Through perseverance and
talking through a lot of things,
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that changed dramatically
by the end of the program.
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She shared with me that the
chaplain and you and me, but
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maybe she was just trying to
flatter me, I don't know, but
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certainly you and the chaplain
had a significant what was the
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word she used, I don't recall.
But how you kind of led her
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along the way and had this
change, this epiphany of God and
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who he is. Tell me a
little bit about that.
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You know, praise the Lord, she
came here. She has a history of
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rheumatoid arthritis and has a
lot of pain and swelling in her
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hands and as her emotions go up
and down so does her rheumatoid
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arthritis. Isn't
that interesting.
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And one of the biggest blessings
for her was coming here and
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reconnecting with God, having a
spiritual awakening which led to
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a physical improvement.
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That's interesting how because
this is about the second or
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third time that you've
said something similar to this.
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You went to GYC and tell that
story briefly. I know it'll take
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about a minute.
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Sure. There was somebody at GYC
who mentioned that there was a
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pastor who had lived a healthy
lifestyle, eating a plant-based
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diet, had a relationship with
God and exercised, all the good
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things and came down with cancer
And what he came to figure out
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as his nidus, his stimulus,
if you would, for this cancer to
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develop was his father had left
when he was very young and gone
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off and started another life and
he realized that he had never
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forgiven his father. So he
called him up and said to him,
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I forgive you. And they talked
and they had a reconnection, if
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you would. An that's when
his cancer started to improve.
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So our emotions and our
lifestyle play a significant
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role in how functional and
how well our immune system is
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working and if our immune system
is not in optimal condition,
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if it's not working properly
then it's very hard for us to be
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in optimal health because
our immune system plays such a
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crucial role.
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You know, I hope you don't mind
that I've been using that story
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for the last couple of weeks
since you went to GYC and I've
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actually counseled people over
the phone and I've asked them
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who in your life have you
not forgiven. And I had one lady
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just two days ago just broke
down in tears. She says myself.
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She'd been through quite a
bit as a young girl and we were
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able to help her just over the
phone. So now she's coming to
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the NEWSTART program to boot.
You know, a lot of our viewers
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think and I know Sherry did
as well, we'll come here to eat
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right and exercise and get some
hydro and see the doctor and
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then get well. But you've
really brought out a spiritual
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component that needs to
be talked about even more.
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Absolutely. You know I'm reading
a book by a neurosurgeon in
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San Diego. He started
incorporating prayer into
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his practice and he found people
started to do a lot better.
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but he realized there were some
patients who still had a hard
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time. And what he found out
is forgiveness is so crucial.
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Sometimes they hadn't forgiven
somebody else, sometimes they
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hadn't forgiven, as you just
said, themselves. So they have
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this technically perfect, if you
can use that term, procedure,
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but it doesn't give the results
that were anticipated and
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expected and as he digs deeper
and deeper he comes to find out
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that they need forgiveness from
others, they need forgiveness
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from God and they may need
forgiveness from themselves.
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Well I see that this has
happened with Sherry and I want
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to ask you, you know the first
week she was here she came to me
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and says oh Ron thank you so
much for pushing me to get me
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here. My hands are, the swelling
I can close them and I can do
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things I wasn't able to do
but then the second week they
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started to swell again.
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She's had challenges and I
believe that part of this is
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part of the whole great
controversy, the battle between
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good and evil and she's made
decisions to be on the side of
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good and I think she's seeing
some increased tribulation
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because of that. But the
beautiful thing is she did a
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treadmill yesterday, second to
the last day of the program and
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she went for 12 minutes.
Wow. And did much better than I
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thought she was going to do and
I think better than she thought
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she was going to do as well.
So I was able to share with her
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that she's actually healthier
than she thinks she is. And I
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was able to share with her
that her outlook, how she looks
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at things makes a big difference
on how healthy her body reacts.
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So I've shown her that by just
changing her outlook it actually
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improves her overall health and
she is feeling so much better
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today.
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And she looks just totally
different today. All of a sudden
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her face is just glowing, she's
just so happy and thrilled and
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her husband, he
couldn't be happier.
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He's very supportive and I told
her that's one of the blessings
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that she needs to acknowledge
and be thankful to God for.
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Because her husband is running
the business that they usually
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run together and he's there
by himself under stress and he
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could be saying when are you
coming back, when are you coming
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back, but he's been very
supportive about her being here
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and getting what she needs
in order for her to be healthy.
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Now what's the prognosis for
her. Do people when they leave
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here do they all of a sudden go
back to their old lifestyle and
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all this goes away, I
mean, what's your thinking?
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The goal is we want them to not
go back to their old lifestyle.
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Because as they resume old
habits the illness starts to
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increase again. So we want
her to be on a new lifestyle, on
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God's lifestyle, if you would.
And I think she will be able to
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do that at home. She has a good
support system and she has some
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plans and we've been talking
about how to incorporate what
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we're doing here to her
home. But I really find that the
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support she gets from her
friends and her husband and then
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some other people that she knows
is going to really be important
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for her because she tends to be
a person whose emotions can go
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up and down. So she needs to
have her emotions in check and
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having this support will be
helpful for that because that
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will help to
keep her body healthy.
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One final question Doctor. For
the people out there who have
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arthritis, can we help
all people with arthritis.
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I believe that the lifestyle
that we're promoting is God's
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lifestyle and I believe that
lifestyle is anti-inflammatory.
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So I think it's going to make
your inflammation, which a large
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portion of the arthritis is
inflammation, I think it's going
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to make your inflammation
less, make your arthritis less.
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I can't tell everybody it's
going to make everything go away
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but we've had several people
who've come here who have said
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I'm not pain free, but it is so
much better than it was before.
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I can live with this and that's
where we want to be. We want
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to put your body in the
best condition so that it can be
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healthy and what I tell
the guests when they're here is
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we want to keep you healthy
because you want to be able to
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serve God and as you serve
God it helps to keep your health
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going because God wants
you to be able to serve him.
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True, true. We're out of time.
I want to thank you Doctor.
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Friends don't go away.
Dr. Nedley and Dr. Ramirez
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are up next.
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Welcome to NEWSTART Now.
I'm Dr. Neal Nedley and with
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me today is Dr. Eddy Ramirez.
There have been some exciting
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things happening at the NEWSTART
program and scientific journals
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are very interested in the
changes that take place in the
00:23:21.53\00:23:25.93
program, just coming here
for 18 days, not only during the
00:23:25.97\00:23:30.41
program but what happens after
the program. This is kind of a
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unique study that was published
in Obesity Reviews in April 2016
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by Dr. Ramirez and myself and
other members of the NEWSTART
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team. We also often have
students involved here at
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Weimar Institute in our studies
and that's one of the exciting
00:23:50.69\00:23:53.76
things about being a college
student here at Weimar is we get
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to see all of these changes and
college students get to publish
00:23:56.73\00:23:59.63
in the scientific literature.
Well Dr. Ramirez today we're
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going to centering in on a
major problem in this country
00:24:04.07\00:24:08.84
and that is of childhood obesity
Now a lot of people think
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NEWSTART is just for adults
but this was a study done on 11
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children who went through the
NEWSTART program and they went
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through due to having pretty
significant obesity levels, even
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levels of morbid obesity
in childhood. I don't know if
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you've seen these people but if
you go to Walmart or if you go
00:24:32.73\00:24:36.71
to any mall in America you're
going to see kids that are very
00:24:36.74\00:24:40.68
overweight and it sets them up
for so many problems by the time
00:24:40.74\00:24:44.65
they're 25 or 30 even. Their
risk of death from emboli and
00:24:44.68\00:24:49.05
all sorts of things goes up
and so I'm very interested about
00:24:49.08\00:24:52.92
this, these 11 patients. And
obviously Obesity Reviews was
00:24:52.95\00:24:56.12
very interested as well as
they accepted the study for
00:24:56.19\00:24:59.29
publication. What did we found
out about these 11 patients?
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So tell us about them first
before they came to the program.
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That's right. Well these were a
small group of patients that had
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gone to the NEWSTART program and
as you said so it's because they
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had some significant health
problems and we want to show you
00:25:15.38\00:25:20.08
here that when they came to
the program they were able to
00:25:20.12\00:25:24.52
decrease their body mass index
and also their overall weight
00:25:24.55\00:25:28.96
and also other markers. We
were also taking things like
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cholesterols, triglycerides,
and these type of markers also
00:25:33.50\00:25:38.37
improved as they improved also
their weight. On average the
00:25:38.40\00:25:43.27
loss was of seven pounds which
may not sound like humongous but
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it's actually very good. We
don't want that type of very,
00:25:48.24\00:25:52.21
very dramatic weight loss
because a person will gain it
00:25:52.25\00:25:56.82
again. But in this way if
you can keep up that change, you
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will keep losing
weight and feeling better.
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There's something that I
personally have seen on the
00:26:04.23\00:26:06.83
medical consultation. I have
gotten mothers to bring their
00:26:06.86\00:26:11.93
child to me and say Doctor I
think my son has parasites. Look
00:26:11.97\00:26:16.74
how thin he is. I checked him
and he is perfectly fine. He has
00:26:16.77\00:26:22.18
normal weight and that weight
corresponds to the normal height
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Why is the mother concerned?
Because most of the other
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children that he plays with,
they don't have a normal weight.
00:26:30.52\00:26:35.02
And compared to them he looks
too thin. So we actually are
00:26:35.06\00:26:39.53
changing the definition
of what's normal to call it
00:26:39.56\00:26:42.83
abnormal and what is not normal
into calling normal and that is
00:26:42.86\00:26:46.37
something that is worrisome.
00:26:46.40\00:26:47.74
Okay, so seven pounds in 18 days
so that's a pound about every
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two to three days they lost and
if they continue on this program
00:26:54.01\00:26:59.25
at home, our research shows they
will continue to lose weight
00:26:59.28\00:27:04.02
at about that same pace.
00:27:04.05\00:27:05.89
So if you're losing a
couple of pounds a week
00:27:05.92\00:27:10.13
which is a good healthy thing
to do in a year's time your down
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well over 100 pounds.
00:27:15.56\00:27:16.90
And that's the idea. The idea is
not just a temporary improvement
00:27:16.97\00:27:21.70
but we want the person to
improve permanently, to change
00:27:21.74\00:27:25.87
the diet permanently. That's why
we're going to teach you how to
00:27:25.91\00:27:29.01
cook at home. We're going
to give you plenty of health
00:27:29.04\00:27:31.71
lectures so you can understand
why we're proposing the changes
00:27:31.75\00:27:36.89
that we are proposing. Not only
that this number is the average
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which means some actually went
a little bit more, some went
00:27:40.96\00:27:45.19
actually a little bit less,
but the idea is for you to keep
00:27:45.23\00:27:49.06
going. Another paper that we
published we showed that once
00:27:49.10\00:27:52.60
you reached your normal weight
you will no longer continue
00:27:52.63\00:27:56.04
losing that weight and you will
maintain that healthy weight.
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That's exciting. Thanks for
being here Dr. Ramirez and for
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NEWSTART Now I'm Dr. Neal
Nedley Join us again next week.
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