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01:12 Hi folks and welcome to another edition of Newstart Now. 01:17 I'm your host, Ron Giannoni. In our studios today we have a 01:22 young man O.K. Hill from Oregon Let's take a look at when he 01:29 first arrived. December 23 of 2014 I had quadruple bypass 01:34 surgery and they had to put a ring around my mitral valve to 01:39 stabilize it. And all of that is basically because of bad diet, 01:44 drugs and alcohol in my earlier years, which I've been away from 01:50 for more than 20 years, but they still have their affect. So my 01:56 body was saying you know you waited too long. I need help. 02:00 Yeah, I had quad bypass surgery, I have congestive heart failure, 02:07 I have uncontrolled diabetes, I'm in fourth stage kidney 02:12 failure. I have no strength in my legs anymore and I can hardly 02:18 walk and I just knew it was time I would like to have as much 02:24 health as I can. I don't care about a longer life necessarily 02:29 but I care about quality of life and I never learned these things 02:35 even though I grew up being taught these more or less and 02:42 it's just time. God gave me reprieve two years ago and I 02:49 want to take advantage of it and continue with my sermon ministry 02:52 that I do. 02:53 Welcome back friends and in our studio, O.K. Hill. 02:59 It's good to see you Ron. 03:01 Good to see you, good to see less of you. 03:03 I try to find less of me every day. 03:05 How many pounds have you lost? 03:07 Well, as of this morning it's 17.6 pounds. 03:11 Seventeen point six pounds. 03:13 That's what they told me. 03:15 How do you feel? 03:16 Measurably different. So much better. 03:20 You look a little different. 03:22 Yeah and I feel a lot different. 03:24 Yeah, good. Now I asked you before we started recording, did 03:30 the program meet your expectations and you said? 03:33 I said no it didn't. It was much better. 03:36 It was much better. It was much better. I like that reply. 03:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 03:41 In which way, how is it better? 03:43 I mean, how can I begin. I mean first of all with the staff 03:49 is good. Where we're situated is wonderful. The food is wonderful 03:54 What about your medications? 03:56 What medications? 03:58 All those meds you came with. 04:01 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You mean the eight or so medications for 04:04 heart and blood pressure, diabetes all that. 04:07 Aren't you still taking those? 04:09 You know, except for my blood thinner I really haven't used 04:14 any of them. 04:16 Isn't that amazing. 04:17 Almost from like the third day. I kept watching two hours after 04:23 eating and the numbers were just amazing. So there is really no 04:29 So what do you think. You know, you're a pastor of sorts, right, 04:36 you do, aren't you. 04:38 I have a sermon ministry that I do. I didn't write them but yeah 04:42 Yeah, I got it. What do you think has happened here? Is this 04:45 the NEWSTART program? 04:48 Is this God answering prayer? What is going on? 04:53 Well I mean the NEWSTART program is just a fulcrum, I think, for 04:59 what God does. God has already given us these things. I mean, 05:04 we didn't create the plants and the foods that we ate, but God 05:08 said these are the ones that I want for you and if you will do 05:13 that, you will have life and life more abundant. And it works 05:18 That's just what it is. So it's men cooperating, and women, with 05:24 God to bring about a new start. 05:26 How did you like the food here? 05:28 Ah, well that's going to be a tough one because I'm going to 05:33 miss it and I haven't even left yet and I miss it. No, it's been 05:38 great, the food is great. You know a lot of people think well 05:41 you know I'm only going to eat two meals a day. I mean, can 05:46 I make it? I've never felt hungry in the evenings. You know 05:51 because what I ate has satisfied satiated my needs. So the only 05:56 time it was ever a problem was when we were doing the three 06:00 day fast. 06:01 Oh, you did a fast? 06:03 Yeah, well and my room was right next to the kitchen so that was 06:07 kind of tough, but no God's been very good to me. And the thing 06:12 is he gave me the opportunity financially with the money that 06:20 I saved and donated money that I could be here. This is what I 06:26 needed to do. I want to go out and do my ministry. I want to go 06:31 out and do Red Cross and I know that the only way I could really 06:36 do it and be effective is I have to have that health mentally. 06:40 I mean what we do is good for the body but that really isn't 06:45 the point. The point is right here. If the body is healthy the 06:49 mind is healthy and happy and I can hear my heavenly Father 06:52 better and that's what I need. I need that. 06:56 How about your walking? Are you walking more and 06:58 enjoying it less or vice versa? 07:00 What it is is I had bad knees and while they still give me 07:06 problems I've been able to walk more and more. 07:09 Are you feeling stronger on those legs? 07:11 Yeah. They're getting much stronger. I was working out on 07:15 the machines and things like that. But, yeah, it's getting 07:19 much better. Doesn't mean I'm out of the woods. I mean, we've 07:23 only been here 18 days so but there are things to come, there 07:27 are blessings to come. 07:28 Amen. So how about when you get home. What are your plans for 07:32 once you leave here. You'll be leaving tomorrow, right? You're 07:35 going to drive back and what are you going to do when you get 07:38 home? Are you going to teach people what you've learned here? 07:43 I think what happened with Noah and the ark is he was preaching 07:49 that there's something coming while he was building it. 07:51 The deal is I'm going to try to make this less of an ark. I just 07:56 want to lead by example. I'm not going to preach to anybody, but 08:01 I'm hoping they're going to go what's going on here? Because 08:05 they saw me before and it was hard for me to walk, low energy 08:08 levels and things like that and I'm hoping that they'll say what 08:11 happened? 08:12 Yeah, you don't want to go home and be the food police. No, no. 08:15 Because right away you can shut people off. Right. So leading by 08:19 example I think is the perfect way to show them what you've 08:22 learned here. Because they'll ask. What are you doing? Yeah. 08:25 Did you lose weight? You get to witness to them. 08:31 Yes, yeah. No shotgun weddings to get people into heaven or 08:35 health. Amen. 08:39 So your overall experience of the NEWSTART program? 08:43 I've enjoyed it very much. I would not hesitate to 08:48 do it again. 08:50 Good. Is there something you could say to the viewers that 08:55 might encourage them to come here? 09:00 The thing of it as is your health is everything and 09:05 if you don't feel good and you think well I don't know if I can 09:08 do it or whatever. Just try. God will bless you. He can't wait 09:15 to do that for you. He's saying just give me a shot at it, give 09:20 me an opportunity. Let me show you what I can do for you. 09:22 And he will. 09:26 So ah what did you like the most about the NEWSTART program? 09:29 Really that's hard to say because I love interacting 09:35 with the other guests. I love the food. I love the church 09:40 service. I love the doctors. 09:42 How about the hydro and message? 09:44 Ah, well. The hydro is good but it gets kind of cold sometimes 09:50 and so you're always happy to go back into the warmth. 09:55 No, that helped a lot. I mean I've had neuropathy and my 09:59 legs were getting that red kind of color for lack of circulation 10:04 and it's made a huge difference. My edema that I had when I got 10:08 here is virtually nonexistent without medication and all 10:14 these things with the hydrotherapy and massage 10:17 and things like that, the food, just everything about it. 10:21 Plus where we can go walking. It's beautiful here. 10:24 Now you live in the woods? 10:26 Well I live in Wood Village which is a suburb of north east 10:32 Portland right there near the Columbia River. 10:35 Oh yeah. And can you walk along the river? 10:38 Well I'd have to either walk or drive down a couple miles 10:43 get to the river but yeah they have walking paths. One of the 10:47 things I want to do is I want to get a recumbent bike because 10:52 it's easier on my knees and the thing about Portland is it's 10:57 very friendly for bicycles. They encourage bicycles and tell 11:03 people to give them room. So it's a good place to be. 11:06 Okay, so you got a plan all set for when you leave here. 11:10 Did you see those little charts that Dr. Lukens handed out? 11:14 You going to fill those out and send them back. Right? 11:18 That's what he told me. 11:19 That isn't what I asked you. 11:21 No, yeah, I am, I am, I am. They're so simple they're con... 11:27 Yeah they are simple. But one of the things I notice is when 11:33 start documenting things it kind of is a method of holding you 11:38 responsible to continue on. So I would recommend that you do 11:43 that. Lot of people don't. They just don't want to be bothered. 11:48 Anyway, I appreciate you taking your time and your willingness 11:53 to share your testimony. We're run out of time now but I want 11:57 to thank you and let you know we'll be following up. 12:00 You bet my friend. 12:01 Thank you. God bless you. 12:03 And He does, thank you. 12:04 Keep up your good work. 12:05 I'll keep up His good work. 12:07 His good work. Friends don't go away. Dr. Lukens is up next. 12:19 type II diabetes and chronic obesity. This includes heart 12:22 attacks and strokes. That's 6-1/2747s crashing every day. 12:28 What's even more surprising is the fix is easy. It's your 12:33 Wouldn't it be nice if you could actually add quality years to 12:36 your life rather than dying one organ at a time. Obesity and 12:40 diabetes are the cause of over a million deaths per year and 12:43 most diseases are reversible because most diseases are 12:47 lifestyle diseases, especially type II diabetes and chronic 12:51 obesity. Seriously now they can be reversed and the quality of 12:54 your life can be renewed. 13:03 You will see dramatic changes in the first few days of our 13:06 program and you will be on the road to a better, more robust 13:09 quality of life. 13:18 Welcome back friends. Help me welcome Dr. Lukens. What a grip. 13:23 Good to see you. 13:24 That a golf grip. I can tell. Good to see you too. Yeah. 13:29 I'm excited to talk about O.K. 13:32 He told me he's going to change his last name from Hill to Fine. 13:37 Yeah, yeah. O.K. Fine. 13:39 He's had a lot of fun and a lot of consternation with his 13:44 name. Poor ole' guy, yeah. 13:47 You know I like talking about people who get well and I see 13:52 a change in him. I can't really identify it but during our break 14:00 earlier we talked about the presence of the Lord here on 14:06 campus and how God heals us in ways that we don't even know. 14:12 That is it, the great physician now is near. 14:17 Amen. That seems to be happening over and over again and we think 14:21 it's the lifestyle program which yeah God says you take care of 14:26 yourself, I'll chip in and help you. But until we surrender to 14:31 him and allow. Tell us something about that. 14:33 That's what the chaplain is helping everybody with. 14:36 Yes. Hey it's wonderful people. This session everybody was there 14:40 with the chaplain. It's wonderful really, really 14:43 wonderful yeah. 14:44 And everybody was there with the doctors too. And I know the 14:48 doctors monitor, right? Yeah. Don't you look after the guests 14:52 as they go through the program. 14:54 Yeah, yeah, several times. 14:55 So tell us about that. Okay. 14:57 You know, sometimes we think that a person's doing that but 15:03 we know that the Lord has told us that there's many ways to 15:07 practice the healing arts, but there's one way that has his 15:12 signet upon it and the eight laws of health are just 15:17 absolutely wonderful and whatever it is he's using those 15:21 laws and when we refuse the laws he really can't work and it's 15:26 just that simple. Last night I was listening to Neal Barnard 15:31 and they can get this off the net. He is the one that's 15:35 probably one of the leading experts on lifestyle change 15:40 and Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine. He said 15:45 all through the years we've been doing all these different things 15:49 and people are not getting well. He talked about a guy who lost 15:52 60 pounds and he was in his later 30s and his family was 15:59 dying in their 30s, their male members were from diabetes and 16:04 after he lost the 60 pounds and he did all these things like 16:07 we're recommending here he says I don't know what to tell you 16:11 but you know you aren't a diabetic anymore. The guy said 16:15 well say on. But this has to get out. There's a big rigmarole 16:22 tug of war on this thing and there shouldn't be. Well anyway 16:29 by the second week, see when O.K. came in he started the fast 16:34 he did the three day fast and then by the second week we took 16:39 him off his medicines. He was a little worried about the sugar 16:43 being a little bit high so he used a little bit for a while 16:48 then he just stopped it and now his 2-hour blood sugars are 16:53 between 160 and 170 which is not perfect and his fasting's are 110 16:59 That's not perfect but he's so much better than he was when 17:04 he was taking all of his insulin and all of his pills to help his 17:09 heart and all the pills for the water in his legs. When he came 17:14 in you could take your thumb and press it right here of his shin 17:20 and leave a dent like that clear up to his knees. Wow. See. And 17:26 now that's all gone. He's lost 17 pounds. Wow. Of water out of 17:30 those. But you look at his knees He said that he was starting to 17:34 get sores. He had sores on his face; those are clearing up. We 17:39 took him off of his blood pressure medications, the one 17:42 that slows the heart down and keeps it from beating so hard. 17:46 But what if you need that extra pressure to get up to your brain 17:50 They find out if you get it too low. Somebody his age his blood 17:55 pressure could be 150 and 160 and we're trying to get it down 18:01 and find out that diabetics lose a lot more brain cells when 18:05 their blood pressure goes too low. So we can't look at our 18:08 numbers, we can't look at all this stuff. We have to look at 18:12 our health. He really did well. He could only do a minute and 18:16 some on his first treadmill. The second one he did a full 18:22 three minutes. He knows that the arteries in his legs are 18:28 plugged but the tiny that they dilate up to get 75 percent more 18:34 and we talked about that ad infinitum. Actually he said my 18:38 legs are stronger and they don't hurt. Coming up from the clinic 18:42 he had to stop three times just so that... He had problems in 18:45 his knees. I mean he was just a mess. Now here's the thing that 18:49 I want. People that have seen this before, this is what he 18:54 must fill out and it's the AV calendar. Dr. Nedley just said 18:59 in our last church service, he said people that are journaling 19:03 people that are keeping track then they are the ones that do 19:07 well and the other ones are just saying well, let's see what did 19:12 I do and they don't get it. No. This is an adaptation of Dr. 19:16 Ardalene on the Today Show and he's stressed that every time. 19:21 He said they've got to chart otherwise they're not going to 19:25 do it. Some of you are watching this and you've been here before 19:29 send me this, I've got to have it in order to keep you going. 19:33 We've got patients that have to come back because they don't 19:37 do that. But you have to follow up and all of us, we want to 19:41 think we're well and I can go back to the way I was before 19:45 You shouldn't, you can't. And some of the people come back 19:50 and they're sick like they were before. 19:52 Yeah, we've got a couple people coming to our next session, 19:57 which starts this coming weekend who have been here and who say 20:02 they have backslidden. 20:03 One of them I know. His cardiologist and his brother is 20:07 a doctor they were flabbergasted They said I don't know what's 20:11 happening here but these people are getting well. You've got to 20:15 some back for a restart. 20:16 That's right. So we got several of them that need to come back 20:21 so... The people watching right now you can come one time, 20:25 that's all it takes, one time. Like me, 11-1/2 years ago I 20:30 bought it. I go Oh wow, this is amazing losing 22 pounds in 20:36 18 days, getting off all my pills, if you will, and just 20:40 losing all this weight and getting healthier and healthier. 20:44 You can do the same thing. And I just want to give a shout out 20:49 to those of you who are sick and you've given up. You need to get 20:53 back here. You need to get back here. Or if you've never been 20:57 here you need to get here in the first place. So you can call us 21:02 at 800-525-9192. Ask for Ron and I will help you. We even have 21:08 scholarship funds available from time to time. If money's a 21:13 factor, ask. The Lord says ask and you shall receive. Back to 21:19 O.K. Fine, I mean O.K. 21:22 So anyway I talked to my doctor friends down in Auburn. One was 21:28 a basketball player, he was, he's got to get back on the 21:31 court. But anyway I told them we get people off. He says aaah 21:35 I've never heard of such a thing You take people off their 21:40 insulin as well. I say yeah. And most of them we don't put 21:44 them back on. He says the only way that we can do that is to 21:49 do a gastric bypass on a person and then they have to lose 21:53 weight because they can't keep their weight on. I mean, gastric 21:57 bypass is a sentence, it's not a life. Some people do fairly well 22:01 but they usually gain it all back. This is so much better. 22:05 Well you know, it's always a pleasure talking to you and 22:09 we're almost out of time so I just want to take this last few 22:13 minutes and thank you and encourage you to keep going. 22:16 You and I see this so much we can't get complacent because 22:19 everyone's a miracle from the great physician. 22:22 Amen. Thank you doctor. Thank you so much. 22:25 And thank you friends and God bless you. Don't go away. Dr. 22:29 Nedley and Dr. Ramirez are up next. 22:33 ¤ ¤ 23:07 Welcome to NEWSTART Now. Today I have with me Dr. Eddy Ramirez 23:12 one of the researchers and physicians here at Wiemar 23:15 Institute and of course Weimar owns the trademark of NEWSTART. 23:21 And of course many of you hopefully know what that 23:25 acronym stands for: Nutrition, Exercise, Water, Sunlight, 23:29 Temperance, Air, Rest and Trust in Divine Power. But lately Dr. 23:34 Ramirez and others including some students and other 23:38 physicians have been doing a lot of research on the patients 23:43 that come through the NEWSTART program and there is a recent 23:48 study that came out of NEWSTART called Intensive Lifestyle 23:53 Intervention to improve exercise tolerance of all participants. 23:57 And, of course, that's exciting because there have been a lot 24:01 of participants come through the NEWSTART program here at Weimar 24:05 primarily due to health problems or obesity problems. Tell us a 24:08 little bit about what you found in this study Dr. Ramirez. 24:12 Yeah, this is a fascinating study. There is a marker called 24:18 METS which tells us how fit a person is. And studies show that 24:24 if you reach a max of 10 or more your probability of dying, your 24:29 probability of getting sick decreases. What we found here is 24:35 that on average when the patients came here they came 24:38 with a max of 7.9, not a very good one. 24:41 No, not a very good one. 24:42 And by the end of the 18 days that number had increased to a 24:48 9.5, very close to that 10. 24:51 Nice. In just 18 days then they can go from unfit to actually 24:58 being fit. 25:00 And decreasing their mortality and decreasing their possibility 25:05 of sickness. 25:07 Yeah. You know exercise is very important to the immune system, 25:10 it's very important to heart health, it can even help avoid 25:14 some cancers. But it's not just exercise, it's exercise to the 25:18 point of becoming fit. So that's the E of NEWSTART. 25:22 That's right. Not only that other markers were also 25:27 improving at the same time as we publish here in this paper. 25:31 BMI the obesity level went down, blood pressures came down, 25:36 cholesterols came down. So this was an overall improvement in 25:41 their total health. 25:42 Great. Now explain a little bit more about this MET. What is it 25:47 that we're actually measuring? 25:49 That's right. Every patient that comes here we submit them to a 25:53 stress test in order to check how their heart health is and 25:58 overall fitness and based on that stress test that gives us 26:03 that number, the ability of the body to utilize that oxygen in 26:09 an efficient way. So as the METS improve it means that the body 26:14 becomes more efficient to use the resources that we are giving 26:21 it. And as you become more fit it's like a car that is finely 26:26 tuned and it's able to burn the gasoline better and throw less 26:30 smoke. Something similar to this analogy is happening in the body 26:35 of these people as they improve that important measurement of 26:39 the METS. 26:40 Great. And, of course, at Weimar there's not only lots of 26:43 fresh air and sunlight, but there's these beautiful 26:47 evergreen trees and just breathing in that during 26:50 exercise is kind of exhilarating It kind of makes you feel like 26:54 you're on top of the world even though our elevation here is 26:58 only 2000 feet. 27:00 Also the beautiful trails. We have so many beautiful trails 27:03 that people can explore and even have the opportunity of seeing 27:07 nature, animals and many beautiful things that have to do 27:12 with the therapy that they're receiving. 27:14 Yes. Well I would encourage you if you want to be more fit, if 27:18 you want to lose weight, if you want to lower your cholesterol, 27:22 if you want to lower your risk of dying, cardiovascular disease 27:25 and all of those problems, the best investment I think you can 27:29 make in your health is to consider coming to NEWSTART Now 27:34 and for this week I'm Dr. Neal Nedley join us next week for 27:40 our next version of NEWSTART Now. Thank you. |
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