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Hi folks and welcome to
another edition of Newstart Now.
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I'm your host, Ron Giannoni.
In our studios today we have a
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young man O.K. Hill from Oregon
Let's take a look at when he
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first arrived. December 23
of 2014 I had quadruple bypass
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surgery and they had to put a
ring around my mitral valve to
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stabilize it. And all of that is
basically because of bad diet,
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drugs and alcohol in my earlier
years, which I've been away from
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for more than 20 years, but they
still have their affect. So my
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body was saying you know you
waited too long. I need help.
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Yeah, I had quad bypass surgery,
I have congestive heart failure,
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I have uncontrolled diabetes,
I'm in fourth stage kidney
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failure. I have no strength in
my legs anymore and I can hardly
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walk and I just knew it was time
I would like to have as much
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health as I can. I don't care
about a longer life necessarily
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but I care about quality of life
and I never learned these things
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even though I grew up being
taught these more or less and
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it's just time. God gave me
reprieve two years ago and I
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want to take advantage of it and
continue with my sermon ministry
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that I do.
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Welcome back friends and
in our studio, O.K. Hill.
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It's good to see you Ron.
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Good to see you,
good to see less of you.
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I try to find
less of me every day.
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How many pounds have you lost?
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Well, as of this
morning it's 17.6 pounds.
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Seventeen point six pounds.
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That's what they told me.
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How do you feel?
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Measurably
different. So much better.
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You look a little different.
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Yeah and I feel a lot different.
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Yeah, good. Now I asked you
before we started recording, did
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the program meet your
expectations and you said?
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I said no it
didn't. It was much better.
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It was much better. It was
much better. I like that reply.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In which way, how is it better?
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I mean, how can I begin. I
mean first of all with the staff
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is good. Where we're situated is
wonderful. The food is wonderful
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What about your medications?
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What medications?
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All those meds you came with.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You mean
the eight or so medications for
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heart and blood
pressure, diabetes all that.
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Aren't you still taking those?
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You know, except for my blood
thinner I really haven't used
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any of them.
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Isn't that amazing.
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Almost from like the third day.
I kept watching two hours after
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eating and the numbers were just
amazing. So there is really no
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So what do you think. You know,
you're a pastor of sorts, right,
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you do, aren't you.
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I have a sermon ministry that I
do. I didn't write them but yeah
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Yeah, I got it. What do you
think has happened here? Is this
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the NEWSTART program?
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Is this God answering
prayer? What is going on?
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Well I mean the NEWSTART program
is just a fulcrum, I think, for
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what God does. God has already
given us these things. I mean,
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we didn't create the plants and
the foods that we ate, but God
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said these are the ones that I
want for you and if you will do
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that, you will have life and
life more abundant. And it works
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That's just what it is. So it's
men cooperating, and women, with
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God to bring about a new start.
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How did you like the food here?
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Ah, well that's going to be a
tough one because I'm going to
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miss it and I haven't even left
yet and I miss it. No, it's been
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great, the food is great. You
know a lot of people think well
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you know I'm only going to
eat two meals a day. I mean, can
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I make it? I've never felt
hungry in the evenings. You know
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because what I ate has satisfied
satiated my needs. So the only
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time it was ever a problem
was when we were doing the three
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day fast.
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Oh, you did a fast?
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Yeah, well and my room was right
next to the kitchen so that was
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kind of tough, but no God's been
very good to me. And the thing
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is he gave me the opportunity
financially with the money that
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I saved and donated money that
I could be here. This is what I
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needed to do. I want to go out
and do my ministry. I want to go
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out and do Red Cross and I know
that the only way I could really
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do it and be effective is I have
to have that health mentally.
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I mean what we do is good for
the body but that really isn't
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the point. The point is right
here. If the body is healthy the
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mind is healthy and happy and
I can hear my heavenly Father
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better and that's
what I need. I need that.
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How about your walking?
Are you walking more and
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enjoying it less or vice versa?
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What it is is I had bad knees
and while they still give me
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problems I've been
able to walk more and more.
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Are you feeling
stronger on those legs?
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Yeah. They're getting much
stronger. I was working out on
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the machines and things like
that. But, yeah, it's getting
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much better. Doesn't mean I'm
out of the woods. I mean, we've
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only been here 18 days so but
there are things to come, there
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are blessings to come.
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Amen. So how about when you get
home. What are your plans for
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once you leave here. You'll be
leaving tomorrow, right? You're
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going to drive back and what
are you going to do when you get
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home? Are you going to teach
people what you've learned here?
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I think what happened with Noah
and the ark is he was preaching
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that there's something
coming while he was building it.
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The deal is I'm going to try to
make this less of an ark. I just
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want to lead by example. I'm not
going to preach to anybody, but
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I'm hoping they're going to
go what's going on here? Because
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they saw me before and it was
hard for me to walk, low energy
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levels and things like that and
I'm hoping that they'll say what
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happened?
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Yeah, you don't want to go home
and be the food police. No, no.
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Because right away you can shut
people off. Right. So leading by
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example I think is the perfect
way to show them what you've
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learned here. Because they'll
ask. What are you doing? Yeah.
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Did you lose weight?
You get to witness to them.
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Yes, yeah. No shotgun weddings
to get people into heaven or
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health. Amen.
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So your overall experience
of the NEWSTART program?
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I've enjoyed it very
much. I would not hesitate to
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do it again.
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Good. Is there something you
could say to the viewers that
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might encourage
them to come here?
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The thing of it as is
your health is everything and
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if you don't feel good and you
think well I don't know if I can
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do it or whatever. Just try. God
will bless you. He can't wait
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to do that for you. He's saying
just give me a shot at it, give
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me an opportunity. Let me
show you what I can do for you.
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And he will.
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So ah what did you like the
most about the NEWSTART program?
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Really that's hard to say
because I love interacting
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with the other guests. I
love the food. I love the church
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service. I love the doctors.
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How about the hydro and message?
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Ah, well. The hydro is good but
it gets kind of cold sometimes
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and so you're always happy
to go back into the warmth.
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No, that helped a lot. I
mean I've had neuropathy and my
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legs were getting that red kind
of color for lack of circulation
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and it's made a huge difference.
My edema that I had when I got
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here is virtually nonexistent
without medication and all
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these things with the
hydrotherapy and massage
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and things like that, the
food, just everything about it.
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Plus where we can go
walking. It's beautiful here.
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Now you live in the woods?
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Well I live in Wood Village
which is a suburb of north east
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Portland right there
near the Columbia River.
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Oh yeah. And can you
walk along the river?
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Well I'd have to either walk
or drive down a couple miles
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get to the river but yeah they
have walking paths. One of the
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things I want to do is I want
to get a recumbent bike because
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it's easier on my knees and
the thing about Portland is it's
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very friendly for bicycles.
They encourage bicycles and tell
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people to give them room.
So it's a good place to be.
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Okay, so you got a plan all
set for when you leave here.
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Did you see those little charts
that Dr. Lukens handed out?
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You going to fill those
out and send them back. Right?
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That's what he told me.
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That isn't what I asked you.
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No, yeah, I am, I am, I am.
They're so simple they're con...
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Yeah they are simple. But one
of the things I notice is when
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start documenting things it kind
of is a method of holding you
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responsible to continue on.
So I would recommend that you do
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that. Lot of people don't. They
just don't want to be bothered.
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Anyway, I appreciate you taking
your time and your willingness
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to share your testimony. We're
run out of time now but I want
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to thank you and let you
know we'll be following up.
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You bet my friend.
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Thank you. God bless you.
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And He does, thank you.
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Keep up your good work.
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I'll keep up His good work.
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His good work. Friends don't
go away. Dr. Lukens is up next.
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type II diabetes and chronic
obesity. This includes heart
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attacks and strokes. That's
6-1/2747s crashing every day.
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What's even more surprising
is the fix is easy. It's your
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Wouldn't it be nice if you could
actually add quality years to
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your life rather than dying
one organ at a time. Obesity and
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diabetes are the cause of over
a million deaths per year and
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most diseases are reversible
because most diseases are
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lifestyle diseases, especially
type II diabetes and chronic
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obesity. Seriously now they can
be reversed and the quality of
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your life can be renewed.
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You will see dramatic changes
in the first few days of our
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program and you will be on the
road to a better, more robust
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quality of life.
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Welcome back friends. Help me
welcome Dr. Lukens. What a grip.
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Good to see you.
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That a golf grip. I can
tell. Good to see you too. Yeah.
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I'm excited to talk about O.K.
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He told me he's going to change
his last name from Hill to Fine.
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Yeah, yeah. O.K. Fine.
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He's had a lot of fun and a
lot of consternation with his
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name. Poor ole' guy, yeah.
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You know I like talking about
people who get well and I see
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a change in him. I can't really
identify it but during our break
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earlier we talked about the
presence of the Lord here on
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campus and how God heals us
in ways that we don't even know.
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That is it, the great
physician now is near.
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Amen. That seems to be happening
over and over again and we think
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it's the lifestyle program which
yeah God says you take care of
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yourself, I'll chip in and help
you. But until we surrender to
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him and allow. Tell
us something about that.
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That's what the chaplain
is helping everybody with.
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Yes. Hey it's wonderful people.
This session everybody was there
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with the chaplain. It's
wonderful really, really
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wonderful yeah.
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And everybody was there with
the doctors too. And I know the
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doctors monitor, right? Yeah.
Don't you look after the guests
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as they go through the program.
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Yeah, yeah, several times.
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So tell us about that. Okay.
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You know, sometimes we think
that a person's doing that but
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we know that the Lord has told
us that there's many ways to
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practice the healing arts,
but there's one way that has his
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signet upon it and the
eight laws of health are just
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absolutely wonderful and
whatever it is he's using those
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laws and when we refuse the laws
he really can't work and it's
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just that simple. Last night
I was listening to Neal Barnard
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and they can get this off
the net. He is the one that's
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probably one of the leading
experts on lifestyle change
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and Physician's Committee for
Responsible Medicine. He said
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all through the years we've been
doing all these different things
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and people are not getting well.
He talked about a guy who lost
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60 pounds and he was in his
later 30s and his family was
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dying in their 30s, their male
members were from diabetes and
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after he lost the 60 pounds
and he did all these things like
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we're recommending here he says
I don't know what to tell you
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but you know you aren't a
diabetic anymore. The guy said
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well say on. But this has to
get out. There's a big rigmarole
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tug of war on this thing and
there shouldn't be. Well anyway
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by the second week, see when
O.K. came in he started the fast
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he did the three day fast and
then by the second week we took
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him off his medicines. He was
a little worried about the sugar
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being a little bit high so
he used a little bit for a while
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then he just stopped it and
now his 2-hour blood sugars are
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between 160 and 170 which is not
perfect and his fasting's are
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110 That's not perfect but he's
so much better than he was when
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he was taking all of his insulin
and all of his pills to help his
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heart and all the pills for the
water in his legs. When he came
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in you could take your thumb and
press it right here of his shin
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and leave a dent like that clear
up to his knees. Wow. See. And
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now that's all gone. He's lost
17 pounds. Wow. Of water out of
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those. But you look at his knees
He said that he was starting to
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get sores. He had sores on his
face; those are clearing up. We
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took him off of his blood
pressure medications, the one
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that slows the heart down and
keeps it from beating so hard.
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But what if you need that extra
pressure to get up to your brain
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They find out if you get it too
low. Somebody his age his blood
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pressure could be 150 and 160
and we're trying to get it down
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and find out that diabetics
lose a lot more brain cells when
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their blood pressure goes
too low. So we can't look at our
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numbers, we can't look at all
this stuff. We have to look at
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our health. He really did well.
He could only do a minute and
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some on his first treadmill.
The second one he did a full
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three minutes. He knows that
the arteries in his legs are
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plugged but the tiny that they
dilate up to get 75 percent more
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and we talked about that ad
infinitum. Actually he said my
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legs are stronger and they don't
hurt. Coming up from the clinic
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he had to stop three times just
so that... He had problems in
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his knees. I mean he was just a
mess. Now here's the thing that
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I want. People that have seen
this before, this is what he
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must fill out and it's the AV
calendar. Dr. Nedley just said
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in our last church service, he
said people that are journaling
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people that are keeping track
then they are the ones that do
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well and the other ones are just
saying well, let's see what did
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I do and they don't get it.
No. This is an adaptation of Dr.
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Ardalene on the Today Show and
he's stressed that every time.
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He said they've got to chart
otherwise they're not going to
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do it. Some of you are watching
this and you've been here before
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send me this, I've got to have
it in order to keep you going.
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We've got patients that have
to come back because they don't
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do that. But you have to follow
up and all of us, we want to
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think we're well and I can
go back to the way I was before
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You shouldn't, you can't.
And some of the people come back
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and they're sick
like they were before.
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Yeah, we've got a couple people
coming to our next session,
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which starts this coming weekend
who have been here and who say
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they have backslidden.
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One of them I know. His
cardiologist and his brother is
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a doctor they were flabbergasted
They said I don't know what's
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happening here but these people
are getting well. You've got to
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some back for a restart.
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That's right. So we got several
of them that need to come back
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so... The people watching
right now you can come one time,
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that's all it takes, one time.
Like me, 11-1/2 years ago I
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bought it. I go Oh wow, this
is amazing losing 22 pounds in
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18 days, getting off all my
pills, if you will, and just
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losing all this weight and
getting healthier and healthier.
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You can do the same thing. And
I just want to give a shout out
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to those of you who are sick and
you've given up. You need to get
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back here. You need to get back
here. Or if you've never been
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here you need to get here in the
first place. So you can call us
00:20:57.22\00:21:02.92
at 800-525-9192. Ask for Ron and
I will help you. We even have
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scholarship funds available
from time to time. If money's a
00:21:08.36\00:21:13.74
factor, ask. The Lord says ask
and you shall receive. Back to
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O.K. Fine, I mean O.K.
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So anyway I talked to my doctor
friends down in Auburn. One was
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a basketball player, he
was, he's got to get back on the
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court. But anyway I told them
we get people off. He says aaah
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I've never heard of such a
thing You take people off their
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insulin as well. I say yeah.
And most of them we don't put
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them back on. He says the only
way that we can do that is to
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do a gastric bypass on a person
and then they have to lose
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weight because they can't keep
their weight on. I mean, gastric
00:21:53.44\00:21:57.48
bypass is a sentence, it's not a
life. Some people do fairly well
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but they usually gain it all
back. This is so much better.
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Well you know, it's always
a pleasure talking to you and
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we're almost out of time so I
just want to take this last few
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minutes and thank you and
encourage you to keep going.
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You and I see this so much
we can't get complacent because
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everyone's a miracle
from the great physician.
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Amen. Thank you
doctor. Thank you so much.
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And thank you friends and God
bless you. Don't go away. Dr.
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Nedley and Dr.
Ramirez are up next.
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Welcome to NEWSTART Now. Today
I have with me Dr. Eddy Ramirez
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one of the researchers
and physicians here at Wiemar
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Institute and of course Weimar
owns the trademark of NEWSTART.
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And of course many of
you hopefully know what that
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acronym stands for: Nutrition,
Exercise, Water, Sunlight,
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Temperance, Air, Rest and Trust
in Divine Power. But lately Dr.
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Ramirez and others including
some students and other
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physicians have been doing a
lot of research on the patients
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that come through the NEWSTART
program and there is a recent
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study that came out of NEWSTART
called Intensive Lifestyle
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Intervention to improve exercise
tolerance of all participants.
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And, of course, that's exciting
because there have been a lot
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of participants come through the
NEWSTART program here at Weimar
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primarily due to health problems
or obesity problems. Tell us a
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little bit about what you
found in this study Dr. Ramirez.
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Yeah, this is a fascinating
study. There is a marker called
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METS which tells us how fit a
person is. And studies show that
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if you reach a max of 10 or more
your probability of dying, your
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probability of getting sick
decreases. What we found here is
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that on average when the
patients came here they came
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with a max of 7.9,
not a very good one.
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No, not a very good one.
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And by the end of the 18 days
that number had increased to a
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9.5, very close to that 10.
00:24:48.32\00:24:51.75
Nice. In just 18 days then they
can go from unfit to actually
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being fit.
00:24:58.43\00:24:59.96
And decreasing their mortality
and decreasing their possibility
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of sickness.
00:25:05.90\00:25:07.24
Yeah. You know exercise is very
important to the immune system,
00:25:07.27\00:25:10.87
it's very important to heart
health, it can even help avoid
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some cancers. But it's not just
exercise, it's exercise to the
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point of becoming fit.
So that's the E of NEWSTART.
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That's right. Not only
that other markers were also
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improving at the same time as
we publish here in this paper.
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BMI the obesity level went
down, blood pressures came down,
00:25:31.83\00:25:33.16
cholesterols came down. So this
was an overall improvement in
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their total health.
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Great. Now explain a little bit
more about this MET. What is it
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that we're actually measuring?
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That's right. Every patient that
comes here we submit them to a
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stress test in order to check
how their heart health is and
00:25:53.52\00:25:58.59
overall fitness and based on
that stress test that gives us
00:25:58.62\00:26:03.96
that number, the ability of the
body to utilize that oxygen in
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an efficient way. So as the METS
improve it means that the body
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becomes more efficient to use
the resources that we are giving
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it. And as you become more fit
it's like a car that is finely
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tuned and it's able to burn the
gasoline better and throw less
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smoke. Something similar to this
analogy is happening in the body
00:26:30.95\00:26:35.02
of these people as they improve
that important measurement of
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the METS.
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Great. And, of course, at
Weimar there's not only lots of
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fresh air and sunlight,
but there's these beautiful
00:26:43.83\00:26:47.20
evergreen trees and
just breathing in that during
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exercise is kind of exhilarating
It kind of makes you feel like
00:26:50.61\00:26:54.38
you're on top of the world even
though our elevation here is
00:26:54.41\00:26:58.15
only 2000 feet.
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Also the beautiful trails.
We have so many beautiful trails
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that people can explore and even
have the opportunity of seeing
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nature, animals and many
beautiful things that have to do
00:27:07.56\00:27:12.56
with the therapy
that they're receiving.
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Yes. Well I would encourage you
if you want to be more fit, if
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you want to lose weight, if you
want to lower your cholesterol,
00:27:18.17\00:27:22.04
if you want to lower your risk
of dying, cardiovascular disease
00:27:22.07\00:27:25.57
and all of those problems, the
best investment I think you can
00:27:25.64\00:27:29.11
make in your health is to
consider coming to NEWSTART Now
00:27:29.14\00:27:34.68
and for this week I'm Dr. Neal
Nedley join us next week for
00:27:34.75\00:27:40.26
our next version of
NEWSTART Now. Thank you.
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