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Jim Wall's Testimony

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Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Jim Wall

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00:12 Every year in America,
00:13 there are over one million deaths
00:15 because of Type 2 diabetes or chronic obesity.
00:17 This includes heart attacks and strokes.
00:20 That's 6.5, 747s crashing every day.
00:23 What's even more surprising is that the fix is easy.
00:27 It's your lifestyle.
00:28 Wouldn't it be nice
00:30 if you could actually add quality years
00:31 to your life rather than dying one organ at a time?
00:34 Obesity and diabetes
00:36 are the cause of over a million deaths per year.
00:39 Most diseases are reversible
00:41 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases,
00:44 especially Type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity.
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00:49 and the quality of your life can be renewed.
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01:13 Hi, friends,
01:14 and welcome to another addition of NEWSTART Now.
01:17 I'm your host Ron Giannoni.
01:19 In our studio with me is a handsome young man
01:22 by the name of Jim Wall, all the way from Oregon.
01:26 Let's take a look at when Jim first arrived.
01:31 I'm Jim Wall.
01:33 And I'm here for a few ancient pain repairs
01:36 that I needed to fix up, sciatic nerve in my hip
01:41 that's giving me a little trouble,
01:42 just recently occurred.
01:45 My wife and I are both Adventist,
01:47 and we've been vegetarians for 16 years.
01:52 And we are trying to fine tune our diet.
01:58 I came down here
02:02 because my wife doesn't do the cooking, I do.
02:05 And I wanted to know how to improve
02:07 our diet to expand our lives.
02:10 And we're both in reasonable health,
02:13 we never go to the doctor, we don't need to.
02:15 And my main reason to come down here
02:19 is to solve a couple of aches and pains
02:22 and to improve our way of life
02:25 and our eating habits.
02:28 Welcome back, friends.
02:30 Jim, how are you, sir?
02:31 I'm doing fine, thank you. Good.
02:33 You look a whole lot better but for a guy that wasn't sick,
02:38 did you find that when you got here or you weren't?
02:41 Well, I came here with a sciatic nerve issue.
02:43 Yes.
02:44 And basically, that was about all really wrong me,
02:49 and we came here to for dietary purposes.
02:52 I wanted to know how to improve my cooking
02:54 and lifestyle in general.
02:58 And we succeeded.
02:59 And what about the nerve?
03:02 The nerve is completely healed up.
03:06 It's gone. Yeah, yeah.
03:08 I attribute that to the physical therapy
03:14 and the walking.
03:15 All right. Yes.
03:17 And so did you learn to be a better cook?
03:22 The cooking program here is exciting.
03:24 Is it really?
03:26 It's exciting because...
03:27 We have an exciting teacher. We have an exciting teacher.
03:30 And already having been the cook,
03:34 I had the right questions to ask
03:37 and then I got the answers too.
03:39 Uh-huh.
03:41 And I had some serious issues
03:42 that I have discovered that were no-nos,
03:45 and we're going to use them when I get back home.
03:51 Like could have one of those been using oil?
03:54 Oh, olive oil. Goodbye, olive oil.
03:57 Goodbye, oil.
03:58 Yeah, I was told that that not to throw it out
04:01 because it makes a good ointment for my feet
04:04 and soften those calluses or something.
04:07 So it isn't all bad.
04:09 You can use it to massage your scalp.
04:11 I have heard it's good hair oil, yes.
04:12 Yes, good hair oil.
04:15 Now when you came here, you said you weren't sick
04:18 and you had nothing much going on.
04:22 But I kind of thought,
04:24 "Well, maybe Jim can lose a little weight."
04:27 Did you lose a little weight?
04:29 Yes, I've lost six pounds.
04:30 You lost six pounds. Yeah.
04:32 But you didn't really have a lot to lose
04:34 except maybe in the mid section.
04:35 No, no.
04:37 No I'm...
04:38 Now you look slimmer. Slimmer.
04:40 I hope I'm not offending you. Not at all.
04:42 Not at all. I'm happy about it.
04:44 Yeah.
04:45 Are you pleased with the gains that you've had
04:50 since you've been here?
04:51 Well, we have a little hill here,
04:52 we call Monster Hill I think, but anyway,
04:55 it's a trail or road up to the water towers.
04:59 Oh, that's the monster. And it's grievous.
05:03 It will make you suffer.
05:05 Now have you been up Cardiac Hill?
05:07 Cardiac, it's a piece of cake.
05:09 Cardiac was a piece of cake? Oh, yeah.
05:12 No I'm talking about the one from the valley beside.
05:13 No, no piece of cake.
05:15 Really? Oh, yeah.
05:17 Well then the monster was nothing.
05:19 No because I walked 20-30 times
05:21 since I've been here.
05:23 So when I came to a little hill like Cardiac Hill,
05:26 well, it was very little challenge.
05:29 Now I understand. Yes.
05:32 So aside from the cooking,
05:36 what did you enjoy most about the program?
05:43 I think the lectures, just eye opening lectures
05:49 that I think that the common person,
05:54 street person wouldn't really necessarily know
05:56 even when you are...
05:58 if we have an ill issue,
05:59 I don't think we would know them
06:00 and the enlightenment,
06:03 understanding that we're changed from that
06:07 because they're explaining pretty thoroughly
06:09 over and over and over.
06:13 We finally get it.
06:15 You finally get it.
06:16 And that's why they do it over and over and over because...
06:18 Yeah.
06:19 You know, the old story heard once and maybe you remember
06:23 but, you know, if you hear it five, six times,
06:25 it's more likely to stick.
06:27 I think you're right.
06:29 Like with the olive oil.
06:30 You know, I was raised Italian, I'm still Italian,
06:34 but nonetheless, we used to smother our food in oil.
06:39 And the best oil money could buy,
06:41 only later to find out, it's not a good thing.
06:45 Mostly I fried at home. Yes.
06:46 Pour enough olive oil, throw in the onions to fry up,
06:51 and see all them good stuff
06:53 and smell permeates the house and just...
06:55 And the garlic.
06:56 And all that, and so I now figured,
06:59 have learned that you can accomplish the same thing
07:02 without the olive oil.
07:04 Amen.
07:05 I saw...
07:06 Now that you're the wise man
07:10 that you are,
07:14 what are you going to do with this knowledge?
07:16 Well, I'm on my...
07:18 the phone constantly every night with my wife and,
07:22 "Honey, when I get home,
07:25 we're going to make some changes."
07:26 And of course, she is ready for it.
07:29 She's all pomp, right? Yes.
07:30 Now since I've already told you that I'm the cook,
07:32 well, she wants her cook at home seriously.
07:36 And...
07:37 I must tell you...
07:38 excuse me, Ron, but I must tell you
07:40 that my cholesterol has gone down.
07:41 Really?
07:43 And it's gone down a great deal in just two and a half weeks.
07:45 What was it?
07:47 Hundred and fifty nine, and now it's...
07:52 must have been...
07:54 I can't remember.
07:55 But anyway, it's way below normal now.
07:58 All right. Way down in the normal range.
08:01 And it's way more than I expected
08:03 in such a short time.
08:05 People...
08:07 Mine dropped 200 points. Yeah.
08:08 My Triglyceride...
08:10 No, my Triglycerides dropped 200 points,
08:13 and my Cholesterol about 100 points.
08:15 I'm doing this, in two weeks, almost unbelievable.
08:18 Yeah.
08:19 Well, I expected much
08:21 but it actually it came down pretty fast.
08:24 Well, it's awesome. We're on the right track.
08:25 You are on the right track. Yes.
08:28 All right, so what do you think you're wife's going to do
08:31 when you get home and you start throwing out
08:34 all the animal products?
08:37 Or are you going to do that?
08:38 There isn't any animal products,
08:40 so we don't have to worry about that.
08:41 Oh, there aren't? No.
08:42 We used to buy a chicken once in a while
08:44 or something like that, but there isn't any leftover
08:46 so we don't have to worry about,
08:48 we just don't buy anymore.
08:49 Oh, good.
08:51 What is she going to feel about the olive oil?
08:53 I don't think she's going to complain
08:55 because she was the initiator of my coming here anyway
08:59 that kind of push.
09:01 And so she's going to be more than willing,
09:04 I'm sure too, just jump in with both feet
09:07 and help me go succeed
09:10 and make those good delicious foods.
09:12 And I got to admit that these numerous recipes
09:19 that they gave us are so tasty.
09:20 Yes.
09:22 And there's just no need for those things anymore.
09:23 That's right. Yes.
09:25 Now you've had a blessing by being with Dr. Lukens
09:31 for this program, is that right?
09:32 Yes, that's correct.
09:34 And how is he as a doctor?
09:39 Well...
09:40 May be I should never asked that question.
09:42 I would say among the best that I've ever seen.
09:43 Yeah, isn't he wonderful?
09:45 Empathy and skill
09:48 and all those things you would look for.
09:51 He's an amazing guy.
09:53 Well, I like to pack him up taking home with me but no...
09:54 Oh, yeah.
09:56 I get to work with them.
09:57 I've been working with them
09:59 for years now and it's just a pleasure.
10:00 Yeah.
10:02 And, you know, he is a godly man.
10:06 You know, he has a ministry in Africa,
10:08 he's been here 27 years.
10:10 That's right.
10:11 And he's helped people like you and me,
10:13 thousands of people all over the world.
10:17 So you're blessed.
10:19 I am absolutely. Yes, yes.
10:22 And he's become more than just a doctor,
10:24 he's a friend too.
10:25 So that's really nice.
10:26 And it's good to have friends like that.
10:28 Yes.
10:29 You know, Jim, I want to thank you
10:30 for taking your time in being willing to come on the set
10:34 and talk with us.
10:36 I know it's a little nerve-racking sometimes
10:38 for people, but you seem very calm but...
10:41 I'm very calm.
10:43 We're going to be in touch with you
10:44 and do some follow-up and make sure
10:47 that you're sticking to it.
10:49 Oh, you know, I would recommend this program to anybody.
10:52 Yeah. Yes.
10:53 Thank you so much.
10:55 To come here and stick it out, they'll be improved, bet you.
10:59 And, friends, thank you, but don't go away.
11:02 Dr. Lukens will be here in a minute.
11:06 When we look at the health status of Americans today,
11:09 it's alarming to see that 60% are either overweight or obese.
11:19 In addition, diseases such as type 2 diabetes,
11:21 cancer and heart disorders
11:23 are the leading cause of so many complications
11:25 and deaths every year.
11:31 Could that have something to do with what we eat?
11:34 After all, every one in four Americans
11:37 visits a fast food restaurant daily
11:39 and with such easy access to quick fix foods,
11:42 we tend to forget the poor health value
11:44 of those foods actually offer.
11:47 Maybe it's the sedentary lifestyle
11:49 and lack of exercise that we've become so accustomed
11:52 to as immediate dependant world.
11:55 Whatever the cause of these diseases,
11:56 a solution has arrived.
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12:55 All right.
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13:12 Welcome back, friends.
13:13 Dr. Lukens in the house.
13:15 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
13:16 We're going to talk about Jim. Yeah.
13:19 I want to talk about Jim for a lot of reasons.
13:21 Mm-hmm.
13:22 You know, is it fair to say
13:24 that when we looked to do interviews,
13:26 we'd like to see or do an interview with a guy
13:29 that's taken 35 medications and how we got him off those?
13:34 Here's the guy that came here fairly healthy.
13:37 Yeah.
13:38 Maybe his cholesterol is a little bit high,
13:41 but what I like you to speak to us about today, doctor,
13:46 is the benefits of staying healthy like Jim has.
13:50 I mean, he lost a couple of pounds and he did it...
13:52 Yeah, about six.
13:54 Six pounds. Yeah.
13:56 What can you tell us about how do we stay healthy?
14:02 Well, you know, as he told you, he came here
14:06 because he want to learn how to cook.
14:08 Right.
14:09 And the Adventist that we see,
14:13 especially, the preachers and lay preachers
14:15 and all of us are preachers, right?
14:18 Right.
14:19 We think that we are on the Adventist,
14:22 we are already on the diet, we are already on the program,
14:26 we've already got this around...
14:28 We came just for the social or we came to, you know,
14:32 just to see if there's a couple of little areas
14:35 that we could brush up on.
14:37 But the thing is his cholesterol was around 240,
14:43 and so he realized, you know,
14:45 as we went through the program and so forth,
14:48 and already get that to drop, you've got to stop,
14:54 his doctor Esselstyn showed,
14:56 you've got to stop the refined fats and oils.
15:00 And he did that while he was here
15:02 and his cholesterol is 150.
15:05 Oh, what's refined fats and oils?
15:08 Well, if you take something from a plant,
15:12 you put it in a bottle,
15:14 and then you put that on your food.
15:16 That's refined.
15:18 That's added fats and oils you see.
15:20 Okay. Right.
15:22 With the animal products, you don't have to add up there.
15:25 I get a lot of people who don't realize this,
15:29 ground beef chuck is about 70 plus percent
15:34 just straight fat.
15:36 See, nobody knows that, you know,
15:38 I ask when I show them the graph there,
15:41 and I say, "How many people...
15:42 raise your hand if you know that."
15:43 Nobody knows that.
15:45 I didn't know it until I saw the amount.
15:48 So anyway, he realizes that
15:51 and he came here to learn to cook,
15:53 he said, "My wife doesn't cook,
15:54 so I came and I was the one that..."
15:57 He's got to drive all the way back to Texas,
15:59 and he's going to take all this with him.
16:01 But didn't Dr. Atkins teach us
16:04 that we need to eat a lot of protein and fat?
16:07 Well, first time around,
16:08 he said high protein diet and then the second time,
16:11 it's worldwide now,
16:13 we've got to eat the low carb diet.
16:16 And the beef that I was talking about,
16:18 that's about two percents starch.
16:21 But, you know...
16:23 So I was kind of joking with you because...
16:25 I know.
16:26 I did the Atkins diet,
16:29 just before I had a five way bypass open heart surgery
16:34 because I read the book and I went,
16:35 "Oh, yeah, that makes sense."
16:36 Yeah.
16:38 And it worked, I lost some weight.
16:39 But...
16:41 Yeah, at least quite a bit. Yeah.
16:42 Amen.
16:43 I was eating protein and fat...
16:46 Made me sick as a dog. Yeah, it does.
16:48 It clogged me up.
16:49 If somebody out there wants to look at something that,
16:52 that type of food will do, look at Super Size Me,
16:56 that was a guy who went on McDonalds for 30 days.
17:00 His doctors were so concerned they said,
17:01 "You've got to get off this."
17:03 It took him six months to get well again.
17:05 Wow.
17:06 Yeah, so anyway, Jim says, "Oh, yeah, I even, you know,
17:12 they use all these good additives
17:14 like the double cold press,
17:16 triple virgin, and all these things.
17:19 It's still oil, you know. Yeah, it's all fat.
17:21 We're only...
17:22 the other one is peanut butter,
17:24 you know, you'd have to try and put it on...
17:28 But I get it out of the super market,
17:32 they've just ground it up,
17:33 I eat it before the oil separates.
17:36 The body isn't fooled by that.
17:39 But you know, you think...
17:41 You mean, you can't make your own peanut butter
17:42 and isn't it healthy?
17:43 Yeah, you can, right here in your mouth
17:46 when you're chewing on a whole peanut.
17:47 So you eat the peanut, you want peanut butter?
17:50 Yeah. Eat the peanut.
17:52 Just chew it longer.
17:55 So you get a mouthful of peanuts,
17:57 a mouthful of some sort of jelly or something.
18:00 No, no. You eat fresh apple.
18:02 Oh, fresh apple.
18:03 Instead of apples jelling out...
18:04 You know, we do that when the people come down...
18:07 And then you eat the bread.
18:09 We have these little open face sandwiches
18:11 we give them with fresh fruits,
18:13 some kind of a nut on a healthy...
18:17 You're not listening.
18:19 I'm...
18:20 On a healthy piece of bread and they are just real,
18:23 "Hey, I can do this at home."
18:24 Look our viewers are watching this
18:26 and going, "Wait a minute, these guys are real?"
18:28 Yeah.
18:29 They are thinking what we are serious,
18:31 but we are.
18:32 Yeah, absolutely.
18:33 You want a peanut butter sandwich?
18:35 Take a piece of bread, put a nut on it.
18:38 Tell us why, doc, come on.
18:40 The thing is that I've never seen anybody
18:43 like 260 rpm or 360 rpm, you know.
18:48 And so they...
18:50 you know, and that's why they separated the foods originally,
18:55 was where made a blunder,
18:56 they just blend in and blended it,
18:58 put it in centrifuge, the fat went to the top,
19:01 they figured out what, how much was the sugar
19:04 and then they could tell you what was in the foods
19:09 by separating them by whizzing them up.
19:11 We're not real big on whizzing although,
19:14 we do have some of the people
19:15 that don't have to be quite so strict on their diet area.
19:20 But see, he's so excited about this.
19:23 He is a pastor at...
19:26 I mean, he is a pastor
19:27 and he is willing to share this with others, you see.
19:31 And when they see him,
19:34 the other thing was is that he came in
19:36 and he did 10.5 minutes on the brisk treadmill
19:41 which a lot of the younger people
19:43 couldn't even do 7 minutes.
19:45 That's incredible. Yeah.
19:47 And in the second one,
19:49 he gotten out there and done enough exercise,
19:51 and so forth, some of the time,
19:53 he was leading the pack on the trails,
19:55 and he did the 12 minutes, that's clear through.
19:59 That's the max, isn't it?
20:00 No I mean you can go further but...
20:02 Oh, you can.
20:03 Yeah, but I mean, it's incredible and,
20:06 you know, he's happy with all this.
20:08 Well, so then to be able to do that at the age of 71,
20:15 when should you start?
20:17 From birth. From birth.
20:19 Yeah, mom...
20:21 are lacking love until you're six or eight months of age
20:25 and then you can start adding the solid foods.
20:26 Yeah.
20:28 But, you know, looking at his numbers
20:30 and stuff like that,
20:31 he might be surprised it's some of his arteries
20:35 are plugged up because over 40% of the time,
20:39 when people have a heart attack,
20:41 their first symptom is sudden death.
20:44 Ouch.
20:45 Yeah, so it's...
20:47 Oh, God.
20:50 You know, I had a phone call from a mutual friend
20:53 who just had a heart attack.
20:55 Yeah, it's hard...
20:57 And he's coming back on our next session
20:59 'cause he backed...
21:01 For he had been here again.
21:02 Yeah, he back slid, started doing what he used to do,
21:05 had a heart attack last Friday night,
21:08 anyway I'll talk to you about him earlier.
21:09 That's why I'm so gung-ho
21:13 on filling out this eight-week chart.
21:15 Yeah.
21:16 See, just fill it in
21:18 even if you are not doing real good job.
21:21 Just keep working on it, you see.
21:24 You know, "I did eat at the restaurant,
21:26 no I didn't, you know."
21:28 It can just help keep you focused.
21:30 I want to thank you for coming here.
21:32 It's my pleasure. Taking your valuable time.
21:34 It's good to have healthy people
21:35 come here and get healthier.
21:37 Oh, yes. I like that. And thank you, friends.
21:39 Don't go away, we got a tip for you following this.
21:45 Welcome, friends.
21:46 In our NEWSTART Kitchen,
21:49 the recipe that I'm going to present today is a recipe
21:52 for Company Oatmeal.
21:57 Company, because we always like to have a company,
22:00 and what is the best time
22:02 to have a company for breakfast?
22:04 By the way, breakfast should be the main meal
22:07 of the day anyway.
22:08 So we want to have friends
22:10 who are enjoying the same stuff that we like.
22:13 And this is the recipe that we can present to them.
22:15 It's not just a regular oatmeal,
22:18 it's a Company Oatmeal that has some good flavors.
22:23 So what you need of course, oatmeal, that's what we need.
22:27 I like the old fashioned rolled oats.
22:29 They're really big one, nice,
22:31 and course, they give you some body.
22:33 Then you need some raisins and that's for sweetness.
22:37 We'll need some chopped apples,
22:42 you know, gala, golden delicious,
22:44 they are the best ones
22:46 because they are really sweet.
22:48 We'll need salt and again,
22:50 we're trying here to cut on the sugar.
22:53 And as I mentioned in different recipes,
22:56 the salt is not only good for seasoning, salty food,
23:00 but it's also good for bringing up
23:02 the sweetness of sweet foods,
23:04 and if you want to cut on sugars,
23:06 this works fantastic.
23:08 Then we need some seasonings.
23:10 And what we got here is cardamom and coriander,
23:15 both have really distinct flavor,
23:18 and they really work well with the apples.
23:23 Well, actually cooking in a NEWSTART Kitchen
23:27 and NEWSTART Kitchen is famous
23:30 for bringing out the most scrumptious
23:33 and healthiest recipes, the most easiest way.
23:36 And the same with this recipe, you know, it doesn't change,
23:40 it's very simple.
23:41 And that's what we like, right?
23:43 So what you do?
23:44 You basically put all the ingredients
23:48 in one bowl.
24:00 Spices, raisins...
24:14 apples that, actually, should be peeled.
24:20 If you prefer to keep the skin on your apple, it's fine.
24:25 But sometimes the skin can cause certain people problems.
24:31 So I like to use peeled apples here.
24:34 And then we pour the water
24:39 over all the delicious ingredients,
24:43 and we'll mix it.
24:47 You see, you know, it's kind of runny,
24:50 and don't get actually worried that much about it
24:56 because that's how it is with the oats
25:01 when they are not cooked.
25:03 But that will all change when we cook it.
25:09 So when you mix it thoroughly just like this,
25:14 use a baking pan that you pre-oiled before,
25:20 and then just pour everything there.
25:31 You can still kind of mix it in the pan
25:37 'cause, you know, when we are pouring it in there,
25:39 it has a tendency to kind of separate again
25:42 so you can mix it together nicely,
25:46 so you get kind of a nice
25:48 and even look of all the ingredients,
25:51 the apples, the raisins.
25:54 And then you bake it in an oven,
25:58 375 degrees of Fahrenheit about like 40-45 minutes.
26:10 And we already have a final product here,
26:14 so we don't need to wait for all those 45 minutes.
26:20 And here, that's how it looks like.
26:23 You see how nice and firm it is,
26:26 got a really nice glaze,
26:29 that's due to, basically,
26:34 the raisins that actually really some sugar,
26:38 and we can decorate it with whatever food you like.
26:43 And isn't it something that your friends would enjoy
26:46 and it looks so good.
26:48 And not only it looks good, actually it tastes really good.
26:51 And it will give you really good boost
26:54 and your friends for that hard work
26:57 that everybody goes through throughout the day
27:00 because like we know
27:01 breakfast is the gold time of the whole day.
27:05 So enjoy it, friends.
27:06 And have a nice day.
27:42 Well, friends, that's it for the day,
27:44 but join us next week for another episode.
27:47 In the mean time, pick up the phone
27:49 and give us a call at 800-525-9192.
27:54 Mention the NEWSTART Now program
27:57 and receive the NEWSTART special.


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